Great Empire of the Dawn: Church of Starry Wisdom
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ม.ค. 2025
- It's 4/20 and I just hit 20k subs, so let's celebrate! ...by talking about glass candles, Stary Wisdom Cult, Marwyn the Mage and Quaithe the Shadowbinder, of course! Come on by!
Marwyn would have to have balls of steel to peek into Bloodraven's cave because if he can see Bloodraven and Bran, they can certainly see him and that's the kind of attention I personally wouldn't want on me
Uh maybe they'd be cool lol
Church of Starry Wisdom and Starry Sept... That couldn't be just a coincidence.
"Who lives in a pineapple under the sea?" "NYAR! LA! HO! TEP!"
Me: Wtf LML deserves at least half of the fandom! Also me: 20k is the entirety of the TRUE fandom.
If Marwen’s being name dropped before turning up, he’s going to be bringing something important to the plot IMO.
i am addicted to your lore videos - as someone who is wildly obsessed with essos, i adore the empire of the golden dawn theory that you've posted about & the mythos around it. thank you for the amazing content!
Don’t miss the Nightbringer series but yeah! Welcome him, friend
@@DavidLightbringer definitely working my way through the great empire content! 😈
I like the idea of the Bloodstone Emperor being the one who ended the long night. Like it just didn’t matter how evil he was because he was the only one powerful enough to preserve the human race at the time. Lesser evil sort of thing.
George R. R. Martin is The King of symbolism. Hello LML, I just found out your channel and I am already freaking addicted to it. Your theories just makes total sense. It is mind blowing.
P.S.: I'm from Brazil so forgive my English.
O teu inglês não é mal, ao contrário
what's LML mean?
@@larrytinsley4247 Lucifer Means Lightbringer.
Likely More Lit-Up 💨👌
Random (possibly tinfoil) idea: Danny was warned of a Mummer's Dragon, which I always thought was Fagon or Aegon. However, Euron has a dragon horn, and if he offers it to her under false pretense/lies about who he is, I wonder if he could be considered the Mummer's Dragon, or whichever dragon the horn helps him take control of, could be the Mummer's Dragon since it'll basically be the puppet of whoever owns the horn. I'm enjoying catching up on all of these and the different ideas they bring up. Wonderful stream!! Thank you for making this.
Happy April 20th, and thanks for the starry wisdom, man.
1:08:30 Speaking of symbolic fruit, in A Storm of Swords, after abducting Sansa, Littlefinger offers her a pomegranite, the same fruit that bound Persephone to Hades.
Damn, nice catch. I totally missed that.
And in some traditions, the fruit from the tree of knowledge
Did she take it?
@@jovedo27 If remember correctly, she refused; 'her tummy was too upset'.
@Watchu Mean I've heard it from Jewish people but idk enough to tellement you how common or widespread it is
I like the theory that Quaithe is Shiera Seastar, Bloodravens former lover with whom he practised the dark arts. It would add a extra motivation for Quaithe to help Dany if she's a Targ too. Also all the stars and the starry wisdom, sailors' religion => sea star. I'd love to see Bran communicate with her or see her on the astral plane.
Btw great stream! I am watching these as an addition to Melisandres secrets 😊
hell yeah! This was a really fun stream, and of course the entire great Empire playlist is kind of my sweet spot. Glad you're enjoying it!
Oh I like that. She has Targaryen blood as well, so she would be Dany's kin.
I like that, and it would be well in keeping with blood Raven and her trying to manipulate events the way they need to go. I also like the theory that squaids could be the girl Alyssa farmin who stole the three dragon eggs all those years ago on the ship sunchaser. During the dance of dragons corley's valerian the sea snake claims to have seen her ship the sunchaser docked at a port of asshai, where Quaithe is supposedly from. And if she really is Alyssa it would definitely explain why she showed up simply to see the three dragons that Danny now had. Wouldn't you want to see them if you had owned all three of those dragon eggs and found out that they had been hatched by someone? Either of those theories I think are very likely and it would be cool to see either of those bear fruit
“Stoner with add” - relatable
Excellent as always LmL , always down for GEotD , CoSW , Bloodstone Emperor discussion. Certainly an interesting element of the narrative's mythos , legend , lore and mystery. Look forward to your GeotD Part 2 dealing with more of the connections and influence of the EotD with ancient Westeros. As for the CoSW definitely seems Euron encountered and likely was indoctrinated by the CoSW on his travels as he is striving to match or even surpass the BE 's atrocities. The CoSW and likely Quiathe (who seems associated with them) definitely would appear to be a great source of information regarding mysteries , arcana and essential huge questions of Planetos regarding the Long Night , origins of dragons and beyond given they have persisted over so many millennia and possible directly involved in some of those ancient legends / events. Marwyn and Quaithe who both have either traveled through or directly associated with Asshai in Q 's case definitely seem to be the twin pillars that will push Dany towards putting her attention to dealing with the true imminent threat of the Others.
As for as Quaithe in particular she is certainly an intriguing character who is the subject to a lot of speculation and debate. Elissa Farman seems to be the candidate of the moment by many in the fandom being she was supposedly spotted in Asshai by the Sea Snake but to me that is sort of all there is to go by , the Asshai connection is something to look out for and i am not ruling it out but i think Shiera Seastar is a much stronger candidate to be Quaithe. Looking at SS , she dabbled in sorcery , even rumored to use magic / rituals (like bathing in blood to preserve her youth) and such can be construed to possibly extend her life via magic and still be alive , also they both share star imagery the star-light mask and whispers of stars imagery with Quaithe (just to name a couple) analogous to her Seastar / Star of the Sea alias and star imagery around Shiera. Also SS was / is the blood of the dragon , Quaithe is pushing Dany to embrace her dragon blood / roots heritage which seems to match up nicely between SS & Q . Also i think it would be fitting given their past if SS and Bloodraven endured similar paths and roles ; with unnaturally long lives tied to magic , both associated with magical factions BR with the old gods / Weirwoods and if true Shiera with shadow magic / CoSW , both were associated with magic in their younger days as well , both have blood of the dragon and would be fitting if Bloodraven has his champion Bran to deal with the Others and SS has hers with Dany. I think SS is the strongest candidate to be Quaithe although I am not 100% sold and open to other possibilities.
As simplistic as it may be, why does Quaithe talk in riddles to Dany? If she’s Sheira S, related to her why, wouldn’t she tell her that? I realise GRRM weaves mysteries into the story all the time but this just seems to have no end point to it? I think this might be 1 thing we never find out and that’s he has her speaking in maddening riddles just to give us lots to think about but will never be answered. His own ‘inside’ joke possibly ?
@@zoethesmall3601 , as i said i am not 100% sold on any theory with Quaithe yet but many of late are assuming Q is Elissa Farman because Corlys may have spotted her ship in Asshai ; but to me that is basically all there is to go on. Ntm she would be basically hundreds of years of old EF at this point whereas SS is around the same age as Bloodraven who is more realistically still alive with a little magical help prolonging life. I think with SS there are a lot of parallels and more evidence for her than any other candidate to be Quaithe as i said in my original comment here above. If she is actually someone from the narrative's fairly recent history.
I am open to Quaithe being her own unique character not necessarily someone we have heard about or familiar with before and would not be much less satisfying , at least for me , similar to what might be going on with Septa Lemore . But also just because Q has not came out and said she is actually such and such does not rule it out either , its not even like Bloodraven immediately came out and said "Hi I am Brynden Rivers" and BR has been seen in the text much more than Q to reveal that. Ntm GRRM has uses these hidden identities for characters including those not disclosing their identity or pretending to be someone else over and over and over , so we have precedent for that. Also, SS is a couple generations back from Dany and was an illegitimate Targ so its not like if she did come out and indicate who she was it would mean much more than her not doing so , it is not like they are immediate relations. And similar to Bloodraven guiding Bran and if SS is guiding Dany as Q , they have been indoctrinated by new causes with new motivations and endgames anyway , so who they were previously is also somewhat less consequential. But the parallels and connections and reasons why SS would have been selected for example match up and make way more sense and a much more compelling argument to be Q than the one for Elissa Farman that I hear about a lot of late.
I agree that SS is the best candidate for. Quaithe. The symmetry is lovely. Farman is just someone who might have gotten lost near Asshai. Nothing else about her smacks of Quaithe.
@@thupple yes i agree , outside of possibly her ship being spotted by the Sea Snake there in Asshai thats about the only connection. She was not even a known magic user or associated with magic like SS or have that symmetry you mentioned as a foil for Bloodraven which works nicely they followed similar paths , assumed similar roles and has her own champion against the Others like BR has. Ntm SS is actual blood of the dragon as well.
Also with EF i find a contradictory concept ; EF likely stole dragon eggs from the Targs , likely are the ones that came full circle and wound up with Dany a couple hundred years later. But at the time stealing them was a huge slight and basically an act of war against the Targs. Jaehaerys I basically wanted to go fire and blood against large parts of Essos in hopes to find and recover the eggs and was hugely angered by this act. So for EF to take such an action against the Targs which could have ended up being a huge threat against them to me just does not add up that she would be so staunchly guiding Dany to embrace her dragon nature. Ntm its far less plausible that EF is even still alive a couple hundred years later compared to SS. SS who dabbled in sorcery to preserve her youth so not much of a leap to prolong life and being around the same age as Bloodraven who also has been given a prolonged life via connection to magic is much more plausible that SS would still be alive compared to EF who lived numerous generations even before BR & SS.
SS just works on so many levels and is far and away the strongest candidate to be Quaithe if she is indeed someone from the narrative's past that we have heard of and / or are familiar with.
Alex B Well said, & I totally agree on all points! The EF stuff just seems like recency bias. what do you think of the related theory that Melisandre is the child of SS and BR?
LmL , Congrats on 20k plus subs , very fitting to celebrate that on 4/20 as well. I have always said you deserve many more subscribers , so it is great to see the subs , live and total views and interaction during and after streams / vids massively on the up of late. You are one of the best ASoIaF content creators out there , long the king of myth and symbolism and not only super knowledgeable with extremely interesting analysis , perspective and insights but you deliver it in a fun , entertaining and often humorous way which is very refreshing and unique. Onwards and upwards , all the best with continued growth and success.
Hello from the future where DL blew past 20k by an order of magnitude 😊, the content speaks for itself, keep it up bud
I am currently recovering from spine surgery and these videos are the main thing getting me through my unending boredom thank you LML!
Could "The Shining Trapezohedron"
( Or.. "The Bloodstone" )
be lodged in Euron's eye socket? Hiding underneath his eyepatch..
"A black eye shining with malice"
-According to Theon Greyjoy
...Interesting...
Grateful Wight -SlySogeking It’s possible, another eyepatched character Crowfood Umber that Theon directly compares to Euron has a chunk of dragonglass in his eye. Supposedly.
It's absolutely impossible. Theon was taken prisoner 10 years before start of GoT and hasn't seen his uncle since, and Euron was send into exile only recently, about 3 years before start of GoT.
@@pawemarsza9515 That's a good point. At the very least, the connections between Euron, and Lovecraft's stone are there. The shining black/red appearance of the stone, and Euron's eye. Also, another potential connection. In Lovecraft's "The Haunter of the Dark" the stone is thrown into Narragansett Bay, by Dr. Ambrose Dexter, after he obtains it. Euron (supposedly) obtains a dragon egg, and then he throws it in the sea. Maybe these connections are intentional by GRRM? Idk.. It's all very interesting, tho.
Woot woot! I'm excited about this theory! Thankyou for pointing that out; never heard if before but I'm in love 💎❤👀
For a few moments after Bran's Coma Dream, he can feel the pain where he'd been pecked in his "third eye" by the crow, same as Dany feeling the tingling where Quaith touched her..
Congratulations hitting 20K lml ... luvin your work here in the UK 🇬🇧
Thanks Zoe!
Euron being a Church of Starry Wisdom disciple is really interesting, clearly even as a young man his mind had already diverged from his culture into a very dark direction, what with the fratricide and rape. The fact that the Iron Islands are essentially and entire region of ports and sailors would seem to make it a natural site for a Starry Church parish, but the Ironborn are so very hostile to outside culture and religion, I can't see the Starry Church being able to operate openly. Furthermore, Lordsport would be the natural location, but Theon doesn't mention it when he surveys the place upon his return.
Could the church have aided in the creation of 'the drowned god'? Since they are similar to cults in lovecraft that worshipped the old ones like cthulu. -
Said by a nobody who hasn't read the books :)
@@maqsoodhassan8978 It's not completely unreasonable. There are a scant few hints that indicate the Ironborn have a seperate lineage and origin than the other ethnicities of Westeros, and much like the Daynes and Hightowers it is possible that they crossed from the West, rather than the East, which would make their point of origin the Great Empire of the Dawn, where the Starry Church's roots lay.
Smokey Wisdom :)
what a band name: The Church of Smokey Wisdom lol
Can't stop thinking about everything from yesterday's live stream ❤️ you always put so much thought and research into all you discussions of ASOIAF and especially love seeing you go live and getting to ask you things directly, it's awesome! Thanks for helping everyone get excited about the books again, and love that you're partnering with guys like Quinn 🖤 you introduced me to his stuff and I'm loving all of it and the stuff you two have done together is awesome! Keep up the content, community, and excitement 😆
Since this live stream I've been thinking... do you think there's a link between the Starry Sept in Oldtown and the Cult of Starry Wisdom? The Starry Sept has black marble walls, it's founded by the Hightowers who are named after a hightower building built on the Black Fortress. What's interesting about the Starry Sept is that it's built close to the Honeywine, which would fit with the CoSW being a cult still active in and around ports.
Well spotted! I like this
Happy 420 great stream love me sum starry wisdom
Love your stuff man, so nice to see you. Stay safe like foreal (got the smoke on me always when I watch your shit, so u know I enjoy your energy ) Much love dude, from Bulgaria
@Vanessa Dimitrova Не кой да е, а Цар Иван Асен. Хахах кефя се на тоя пич мега мн радвам се и аз че те виждам
For some reason when you were describing the black candles , one green three black . The colors coupled with glass candles not having working in over hundred years. It made me think on if there is any correlation between The Blacks and The Greens the two factions during The Dance of the Dragons . Which makes me think the color is like the channel of communication or frequency the user is on. Like all green candle CB radios are running on channel 9 blacks are running on channel two hopefully that makes sense as to what I'm trying to say. What do you think coincidence that the candles are black and green and the dance factions were call blacks and greens supposedly because of outfits they wore at a tourney. I could see if Rhaynera always wore green and it's her personal color. No it's because of an outfit at a tourney.
Love your videos thanks for continuing to always put out great content that gets my mind racing through awesome doorways of thought
I'm really not sure, I don't know what to make of the different colors of glass... there are also reds and purples on Dragonstone. However the Dance is def full of parallels to the War for the Dawn and the probably end game in the story
Its not 420 today but I’m still hitting a dab off lightbringer as we speak. You’re officially my favorite TH-camr as of now my man. Forever a fan! You’re the best. For the nights are dark, and full of corona!!!
Still don't understand how you only have 20K subscribers? Congratulations by the way 🎊🎉
Been following you for years now. Love and appreciate your work. Lots of love all the way from Germany. Stay safe and healthy ❤️
Love your content LmL!! Keep up the amazing work!
Love how much tripping there is in The Song
🫶✨️born & raised here in chicago✨️🌠 1:36:55 now I need to find that video!!🔥🔥 GRRM & MYTHOLOGY🧿 chefs kiss🧨
Great stuff! Btw about weed in Westeros, Dunk has a hempen rope as a swordbelt at first, so the plant must exist there
Not really, since hemp has no thc and weed does. You can smoke hemp till the cows come home and you won't get stoned.
Edit: I realize hemp and weed are both cannabis, though. I am just saying that just because there's hemp, doesn't mean they have cannabis with thc in it, or weed.
@@tammichenard1024 if they have hemp, they have weed. Weed is cannabis.
7:52 reminds me of the blue screen scene from Wayne's World. " Or imagine being able to be magically whisked away to Delaware... hi... I'm in Delaware."
LML and Quinn are the cutest dorky Bromance. I'm so jealous.
32:00 You might even find Marwyn living in a VAN down by the RIVER!
🤣🤣🤣 you totally might!
The best ASOIAF channel To snort a bong rip to
Bro, i love it when you smoke with us! i was puffin with you on 4:20 this year and the conversation is always good deep stoner stuff. Of course you're a musician! We are the original magicians yo ;)
keep up the great work LML
Interesting thought that Melisandres visions are incomplete because fire flickers. I wonder what would happen if she looked in a glass candle 🤔🤔 would it even work, since it seems that you need to direct them, although how did Marwin know to look for Sam?? Maybe you can just look for a specific "topic", and it shows you all things that are connected to it.
Ah, like show Bran
@@made-line7627 that would be cool, wonder if Melisandre had access to them in asshai. Really hope we get to see some of her memories
@@made-line7627 her chapters at the wall with jon are some of my favorite.
Recently found your channel on my suggestions. I’m sad I’ve missed out on these amazing streams omg
As some of you already talked about Melisandre, and just my joking "pants related" question was answered: afaik the most important spiritual characters we have are Quaithe and Melisandre. Melisandre is with Selyse at the wall as we left. She may end up with Jon revived, just like in the show. And Quaithe is only with Dany in her dreams, so her position is unknown. But she may end up with her. So will we see them clash and lead their protagonists in different directions, or will they work together? One could also think a lot about their different interpretations of what they see in the flames. Let's discuss!
We know that the Old gods exist through the Weirwood trees. And since the birth of Dany's Dragons magic is working like the glass candles. I want more of Quaithe 2 help Dany slay the lies. DRACARYS!
that would also mean to slay bloodraven. he is responsible for that unspeakable nonsense story of r+l=j. it shouldnt even happen when carefully read in some agot chapters.
Wow! I missed the live stream, but by coincidence as the video loaded I myself had a proper chestful of smoke and LmL and I exhaled together... sort of. Cheers and happy day, LmL!
dude you singlehandedly revived my love for ASOIAF, just wanted to say that, i may come off as some weird fanboy now for commenting on so many videos though lol
No it’s totally cool, I means it helps me a lot! If you’re late to the myth head party, there’s a lot to catch up on, yes :)
I'm here 3 years later trying not to comment on 3 year old posts like a weird fanboy.
There's always a bigger fish. 😂
Stars seem like a good avatar for ice and fire, from our perspective with modern science at least being that they're incredibly hot infernos of fusion and simultaneously dwell in a frozen void. Not that the any body would know that about stars with their knowledge, but stars are very much part ice and fire.
1:35 ... Euron could be like a Gollum style of "Hero"...
Loved the WoW predictions series!! Are there any more of those in the works?
YES. 3 or 4 at least
The Winds: Most Anticipated Plotlines series produced some of the best LmL/Quinn exchanges. I know getting a ~30 min script from no new material must be pretty hard, but we’d love more if you can manage.
Here’s a question I have, before Dany enters Quarth, one of her blood riders comes back saying that he found a dragon’s skeleton. Even passed through it’s jaws. Does anyone know anything about this?
That's really interesting!
There seem to have been skeletal remains of dragons found a bit all over the place, even in Westeros pre-Seven Kingdoms. As for one by Qarth, it could be simply one left over from the days of the Freehold. But GRRM bringing attention to it, specifically in relation to Qarth might be a hint of something.
OlofDenOduglige well it could always just be sheepstealer
Possible connections between CSW and the Summerhall Fire? Agree that the Magic Sights being all connected, similar to the palantirs from “LOTR”.
RE: Varys' balls... The worship of Nyarlathotep practiced by Lovecraft's COSW requires "horrible sacrifice." An argument can be made that somebody's balls would qualify as such a "horrible sacrifice." Additionally, the Trapezohedron is said to be a way to "glimpse the mind of Yog-Sothoth." Yog-Sothoth-referred to as "the key and guardian of the gate" and of whom it is said "Yog Sothoth knows the gate, Yog Sothoth is the gate"- is recognized by occultists in our world as a fictional metaphor for the liminal Goddess Babalon (Babylon, or Bab-Ili meaning "gate of the Gods") who in turn is supposed to be an avatar of several dark goddesses from various locales across the planet. It should be said that it was not uncommon for followers of these goddesses (Astarte, Ashera, Cybele, etc.) to sacrifice their genitalia to these goddesses. Varys' balls could easily have been a sacrifice to whatever "Dark God" JRRM has in mind.
It’s a safe assumption tbh
i know im two years late but i want that hoodie so bad
I thought you were the guy from COLD CAVE in the thumbnail for a second.Ooh i love the Church of Starry Wisdom. I really like how Lovecraft serves as like a base, not just for GRRM but for lotsvof writers
That bit at 1:21:30 or so about Dany waking from the dream about becoming a dragon and has the ants crawling on her with inflamed bites and all, reminds me of everything dracomorph i.e. the aerea story and azor ahai etc everything you lay out in that stream. Just a thought
Shit son, grats on the 20k, never say effort doesn't pay off, also props to Robert at In deep geek for the intro!
LML: Nyarlathotep is a kind of elder god figure
Raiden: *wants to know your location*
Hail Sithis!
dvrn86 with the light saturation he is Lucien lachance.
LmL I think you stumbled on something at the end...with the quaite touching dany I know there is no NK figure in the book but I instantly drew a parallel with bran being grabbed and it leaving a mark and with this instance of it still tingling where she touched dany
I always thought Stygia, with it's Heart of Darkness was the throne city of the Great Empire of the Dawn. Think of Albany, New York being the capitol of New York state, but NYC is the largest and most influential city.
If the Bloodstone is in Stygia and it holds the Great Other, that could be why even Shadowbinders do not enter the city.
Yeah I mean it's kind of semantics; Asshai was the metropolis and Stygai the unholy temple, something like that. God I hope Dany gets a glimpse of Stygai in a glass candle vision
@@DavidLightbringer Senpia noticed me!
Ashai comes from indo- Iranian -"Asha",which btw,the Rhllor/Vs GO Dualism is confirmed to be inspired from-Zoroastrianisn and to a point Manicheasm.so asshai should be somewhere along the lines of "City of the Dawn".No doubt asshai was the Capital of the GEOTD.
Also,do you think Azor Ahai welding light Binger/Morning star/Dawn=Could either literally mean the Sword dawn (or atleast the original dawn,which could be any weapon with that symbolism really)or does Dawn Represent the more natural "new day" i.e a "saviour of light" who comes to deliver the people from the darkness? Eg. If Dany Comes to Save the 7 kingdoms from the Horrors of war(Night) then she literally Symbolises the "savior dawn"/and the "Saviour dawn" Could very easily turn into,or already be seen as "the Consuming Night".Such a thin line between hero and villain
I couldn't watch this live (different timezones and all), but thoroughly enjoyed. A lot of food for thought to be gobbled up.
I am so sorry that I missed you lived but, was messy around with Tom Fuller-er lol 😂
AkA un-black face lol 😂 your both, great hope to catch you live again 😆
The Weirwood net allows you to see the past. I wonder if glass candles do?
Enjoying the content!
Congratulations! 20k
Marwens got a palantir.
Is it possible that description black oily stone vs something like black marble and other similar building materials could just be based on lack of knowledge/information?
59:46 this guy had a good point. It's symbolism. Bran has symbolism of being dead perhaps from the close association he has with the Others, and because of the sacrifice he will make, like Odin
The magic of songs is probably Tolkien reference to the creation of Middle earth and all existence when Eru Lluvatar made music to bring creation in the universe while Morgoth created his own corrupted music to rival it
LmL keep this content coming. We partake in this complicated mythos and fandom and you propel it beautifully. Thank you very much. In a few weeks whenever I have a paycheck I'll contribute with astute questions that only you can answer.
Also. Do you think the first Oily Black Stone monument in Westeros will be Moat Cailin? I believe that that is Moat Cailin's demise. Something witchy is happening there, if you ask me. It's just the beginning of the process that a geographical area undergoes before turning into the nefarious Asshai, or Yeen, or whatever poisonous city in Earthos has in store for us.
*Planetos.
That's a great theory RE Moat Cailin. I've always subscribed to the theory that it was a new "Breaking of the Arm of Dorne" attempt on the part of the Children, but it failed, though this theory works quite well, considering the environmental sh*t that befell Yeen and Asshai.
Sorry I missed this live! Congrats on your milestone, LML! Love all the Tom foolery as always
I also wonder what Quaithe is up to most of the time?
She has not spoken to Dany very often. Why limit her influence?
Love you D!!
you are the best TH-camr i know
What do you think about the theory that dragon binder actually binds humans to your will and not dragons? The logic behind it makes sense, for one how would the dragon binder horn work with dragons? Dragons form a bond with one rider at a time, and there’s never a mention of a horn being used by the Targaryen’s to control their dragons. The second thing is that during the kingsmoot it really did seem like dragon binder had an effect on the people there, and maybe that’s why they were so enthusiastic about Euron’s plans, but changed their minds later on.
I mean it’s no more likely that the horn controls humans than dragons - either is magic. Either could be true also; I don’t have strong feelings either way about the idea it affected the people at the moot. It might do that, but that’s not it’s main use
"Lovecraftian things running everything" It's more like a timeshare 🤪
I love your and quins channel, but I really love the dual shows!
I cant wait to hear what happens with Marwen in TWOW!
Even if you weren't the best ASOIAF TH-camr, I'd still love you for normalizing cannabis use. If someone can treat their issues and still be such an incredible expert, what's the debate? Thanks a lot, dude. ✌️
that's always been important to me, for sure :)
Do you think Mirri Max Dur was a cultist too, through Marwyn?
Possible, but hard to say
I heard that she might be a member of Starry Star Wisdom. She went to Assi.
This is the best video beginning I ever saw :D
This was also taken from the book of Job. When the sons of Eloheim sang at the creation when the son earth and stars were created. These are angelic beings of different classes, cherubs, seraphims, ophanims, singing in unison at the creation. Oddly enough, a Ton of his work is taken from the Bible. Which, most writing is. Like was it Tolkien that said if you know the scriptures you can k ow the ending to every story? Some famous author made that comment.
I'm just waiting on you to go off on house Lucifer in Dorne.
Congrats on the 20k 🕯📚📖🌠🌋💖
Praise Garth
I love all your live streams, David. The older ones and the current ones.
It’s crazy because on the ice and fire wiki there’s almost nothing that covers the church, except for some background history and a brief mention in 1 Arya chapter in Dance
I love your channel so much...so much ^_^
Loved that intro!
10,000 years should get your cult status lifted.
I really wanted one of those green screen backgrounds to be like Oldham town centre on a Friday night, or Carlisle or something like that :D
We were hopping between Air BnBa at this time so it was mostly green screen. Will go back to some green screen tricks at some point
@LML do you feel Melisandre went to the Temple of R'hallor of her own free will, or is possible she was sent to investigate as to see if this new religion is a threat or to ensure it's success, and she had a vision while there that caused her to go rogue from her Asshaian employers? I just wonder how she earned her freedom and made it to Asshai. It doesn't seem like they'd want one of their own wondering the world. We don't meet any others from Asshai that I recall. I don't remember if ADoD covered it in her little chapter.
In Melisandre's POV chapter it is revealed that she was sold as a slave to the temple of r'hllor when she was a child.
@@michaelshelton5488 I remember her being sold as a slave. I just didn't remember to whom first. Yeah, see that just feels weird. So she gains her freedom, earns her robes and heads to Asshai? I wonder if she even remembers at her age what her real story really is. There's something fishy about her relationship with those which she serves.
"Yes. Hello, Temple Central. This is Thoros."
"Who?"
"Thoros of Myr. Deliverer of our one true lord's fiery message to the ingrates of Westeros."
"Oh. Yes. How is the conversion of the stag king coming?"
"Well. It isn't happening. He was gutted by a pig. Oh, the irony."
"Oh. Then how is the conversion of the new king coming?"
"Which king?"
"The one on the iron throne?"
"Well, that little bastard is already burning bitches alive."
"What did you say?"
"Uhm, yes. The whee little fucker is making offerings to the Red God already. Yes."
"Good, soon all of Westeros shall be followers of the one true lord."
"Oh yes, and hey. The red lady with the Iron Stag. She's really doing the good work. Sure did fulfill my prayers of coppers for summer ale."
"Never heard of her."
@@Nga_Babaye from what I can remember it was the temple who sent her to Aashai to study shadow binding. Her mission to Westeros and her decision that Stannis was Azor Ahai seems to be totally on her own and not authorized by the central temple. She is a total heretic in that regard 🤣
I was thinking quaithe of the shadow could mean she is in the high tower. Because the high tower of old town is known to create a huge shadow that people can tell time by.also what are high towers also used for? Observatories to watch the skies and chart the stars.
Great points! That would be *really* interesting 💫
Have we had a truly evil character doing good things for evil reasons? I think Euron could end up being a “Stalin” like character as in he is evil everyone knows he is evil but he did help defeat Hitler lol.... I like your idea that COSW is manipulating Euron and Danny into meeting that could be the catalyst to Euron “helping” Danny defeat the others as in “no one controls me I’ll do what I want”. I think if Euron does help defeat the others he most likely won’t die by the end of the story kind of like Stalin after WW2 living for another 10 years. It just feels like something George would do to pull at our emotions and something seen in the “real” world all the time
Ramsey.
You’re an idiot lol and you’re taking the words of General Patton out of context. Learn some history and also get a life it’s a fun idea for a book it’s not meant to be taken seriously
(If everyone around you tells you how to behave, you might do something truly not you just to prove you do have free will, you can be an other)
idk about GOT Universe but yes, the candle color affects magick
I believe Nyarlethotep's name was human-given. Or he at least chose a human name. Because "hotel" was a common way to end Egyptian names and Lovecraft did write him to be Egyptian pharaoh at some point, if I'm not mistaken.
Are you the Dark Brotherhood recruiter from Oblivion?
Always excited to hear what you have to say!
I love your stuff, dude. Wish I could've watched this yesterday.
Can't wait for more "WoW Predictions". I need my fix!
Kinda unrelated: Do you enjoy video games? Listening to you usually makes me wanna play "Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem" again.
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Got damn that background is so epic!!!
So Quaithe warns against disease, Greyjoy, Blackfyre, Lannister (Tyrion), Jon Connington, the son's son?, and Aegon Blackfyre. The perfumed seneschal I think is actually Varys.
Maybe Xaro Xhoan Doxus is just a very tolerant guy and has buildings to accomodate members of every faith of the earth.
I hate that I’m always working when you stream but I love them no matter what