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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ส.ค. 2024
- This is something I highly recommend for anyone with the fn2 crunchies! As days passed it got even better. Enjoy
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I've done mine today in my 1.8 and had been reading up on this procedure for awhile. Firstly I removed the near side wheel which helped with access a lot, fortunately the previous owner(s) didn't care about the undertray so I only needed to take off a few clips then pull it over the brake/suspension tower. I filled via the top of the engine, need to remove the battery and the airbox; access is a bit tight but it's possible once you actually locate the correct bolt as there's a few that look similar in there. I made a cardboard funnel and managed to collect the oil in a pan. Got new bolts and washers for both the bottom drain bolt and the top bolt, obviously the middle filler bolt was left untouched. I even measured what came out and I put in 1.6l as per the owners handbook, although some places suggest 1.4l is enough. The oil itself came out as muddy brown with bits in it, a quick drive vindicated my change as 2nd gear stopped crunching and all the others shift far easier too.
do you have any photos of the bolt for the gearbox in the engine?
this video really helped me to get mine done but I would recommend removing the passenger front wheel in order to gain better access to the fill and drain hole especially if your jack does not really go up high ( this method also limits your time under the car as you can work from the side, becareful with jacks as mine slipped even with a back up jack to help level the car on the other side - dnt get under straight away, wait to see if your car is stable first ) Lastly, the fluid really stinks and oil is going to spill on your driveway so put newspaper / plastic whatever underneath first ) hope my mistakes will help you get this job done right.
I did mine for 60 pounds to a local service. I brought my own genuine Honda MTF-3. I can feel an improvement especially when shifting gears, after pressing the clutch, changing gear, and hitting the gas pedal. That's where you feeel the difference. Car drives smoother, it shifts up and down easier and smoother.
Can't feel anything different in the gear stick movement though. That is the same it was before.
Still, I recommend everyone doing it. It's not expensive and it makes the gearbox's life a lot longer!
Youve done it the hard way mate 😂 you need to remove the passenger wheel when jacked up and then you get fulk access when the undertray is clipped off :) good effort though bud!
Ah makes a lot more sense. 😂 thanks for the tip 👍🏻
My FN has been off the road for three years sitting in my driveway, the rear axle broke and at the time the only decent one I could source was crazy money until recently where I picked up a new one for less that £200, so the gearbox and a full engine service will be carried out over the new few weeks. This video will help me immensely.
Brilliant, hope you get it back on the road.
I have an FN2 type R myself and like yourself, I am very fussy on maintenance. A good thing to do also which I did this week is put it up on a hoist and grease all the joints. Any rubber bushings, the shock absorber joints. Also, spray silicone onto any rubber boots to keep them soft and prevent cracks. But you'll need the use of a lift/hoist to do this.
Good points thank you.
Really good Video, I had a Honda Ballade S04 Chassis in South Africa, and also had the "3rd gear grind" issue when trying to put it in 3rd sometimes wouldn't go in then grind. So we changed the gearbox oil we used about 75% Castrol 80W-90 and about 25% ATF and the problem totally dissapeared. never had an issue selecting 3rd gear again even if i tried on purpose. Keep these videos up they really good! You earned a subscriber
Done this to mine with the same Honda stuff at the recommended interval on the service schedule (75k miles or 8 years). It definitely helps & makes a difference.
I'll do mine more regularly than the book says, probably half the recommended time as it does wear off, but it's still better & lasts a good while in my experience.
Plus as this video shows it's easy to do & the fluid is pretty cheap. I'd recommend putting a magnetic plug in next time to catch them metal particles floating around the gearbox.
Good video 👍
Thanks so much for your insight on it. All good to know 👍🏻 and thank you 😊
Dad's are awesome
Watched this to change mine at the weekend its a top video mate thanks. Found it easy enough to do. Guy at Honda said it holds 2.2L so he sold me three bottles, fortunately I measured what came out (1.9ish L) and thats pretty much all I could fit back in (with a little spillage).
Amazing mate good job and glad you liked the video 👍🏻
You should’ve tried the Amsoil. Cured the third gear problem on my FN2 and smoothed the box really well
I have heared that's good. This got better over time and I'm happy with it now though.
Hi mate, I already told in one of your previous videos that I had sometimes the crunch gearbox problem, adjust the bitting point was helpful, change the gearbox oui was helpful too, but it turned out to be my clutch slave cylinder ! I changed it for an OEM one and the car feels like brand new !
I'll look into that mate thank you!
FNLEW Okay ! It cost me 200€ (I'm french) in Honda garage, so I think it should be about 160£ in England :)
Nice job lads 👍🏻
Cheers matey
On my 1.8 I adjusted the clutch travel, its very hard to get at but theres an adjustment nut above the clutch pedal inside the car. A lock nut and then you rotate the threaded shaft that actuates the clucth. Basically I moved the bite point so the clutch disenages fully and theres less chance of the clutch being slightly engaged which causes hard changes.
I've tried this before but was unsuccessful. Luckily a clutch change was done eventually which it really needed.
Wise to use Honda MTF, and do it every two years, bought mine 10 years old, never been done 🤬, changed it, gears smooth again, though 2nd gear is a bit jerky still.
thanks for upload exactly this kind of video i was looking for thx mate
No worries glad I could help 😁
Useful vid man & great channel, I scrolled to this one hoping there'd be something about the damn 3rd gear crunch!
Thank you mate! Unfortunately a synchro change is the only true cure 😔
Guess so, good to know there's something that'll help for now though. Just had my cam cover changed as well, OEM but.. your engine bay is looking great!
@@johncanavan4060 yeah exactly. I'll be putting in some polybush engine mount inserts in soon so that can apparently help keep the gearbox still whilst changing gears. Still bet it looks crisp mate. Thank you 😊
@@FNLEW it does man, just hit 64k this week 😎
@@FNLEW have generally issues with synchros the fn2 gearbox buddy??
You can fill the gear box from the top on these as well makes it easier to fill.
backstreetdriver I thought we did fill it from the top. Or is there another fill point?
FNLEW yeah if you look from engine bay on top of gearbox you'll see two metal lines and next to them there's a nut, that's where I fill it up, you need a tube or long funnel, it's just a little easier.
I've been doing some research and there is indeed a top bolt where you remove the battery and airbox to get to. Not sure why most guides recommend filling via the middle bolt which involves more mess and the possibility of not filling the gearbox enough...
Great Vid Lewis, just wondering where did you get the gearbox oil from?
Thanks very much. I got them off ebay mate.
Cheers for info, just one last question does your car use/burn oil?
No worries. Tbh yes, it's just somthing that honda vtec engines are known for. Engine oil that is.
I must have a first then because mine doesn't use any( its on 64k), Honda said to use 0w20 or 5w30 and i wondered what you thought because some people say they use 5w40 which probably means they top up less, cheers anyway...
Said you bought a new washer? Just wondering where you got it from mate? Size etc?
I'm sorry but the company I purchased it from (h-tune) is now in administration.
double spanner trick - I needed that tip
Andrew P you're welcome 😁
Yes mate such a use full video, thank you
U never show in how put or where to put new transmission oil after removing the old transmission oil. I been looking for months how to put Honda civic i-vtec i-shifter transmission oil I have slightly different model then your machine I don't trust as they spoil my old car engine completely before I want to where the the place to put new transmission oil
The main reason I subscribed to your channel is your dad
Oh cheers 😂
The clutch on mine has a low bighting point aswell & anyone know if there's a way to make the clutch lighter???
I got a FN1/FK2 one 1.8l Sport, mine's a bit hard to get back down into 2nd sometimes.. I think it might be worn enginemounts but also It could be that it would appreciate an oil change too:)
I'm doing engine mount inserts soon so I'll do a video on how well they work 👍🏻
On my 1.8 I adjusted the clutch travel, its very hard to get at but theres an adjustment nut above the clutch pedal inside the car. A lock nut and then you rotate the threaded shaft that actuates the clucth. Basically I moved the bite point so the clutch disenages fully and theres less chance of the clutch being slightly engaged which causes hard changes.
Is there a gearbox oil filter that needs changing too?
Not that I know of.
Have you done the clutch biteing point video yet .
No not yet. Did one attempting it a couple of years back but didn't have the right tool.
Would love to know so I can tackle it myself lol
Great video this is a job I want to do on mine but the under tray removal has been putting me off. How difficult was it to put back on?
Thank you. To be fair it put me off too but with two people it's loads easier. Either way it's only bolts and clips so not to hard 👍🏻
its abit of a pain to get the clips towards the centre of the car off as there are some bolts as well - if you have proper jacks that can lift your car high enough with high jack stands then this job is easy but I really struggled because I used 4 ordinary jacks
lew......Flashpro or ecutek?
Clintin moodley personally from first hand experience I'd go with ecutec
Are you planning on getting it? I would like your view on it. Im from south africa and we have very limited options here.....
Clintin moodley not any time soon unfortunately as I can't afford it. I'm just going off other people's.
Have question i live australia we dont mtf 3 oil, we have mtf 06. Is this the same just named differently can only get mtf 3 imported from uk please help. Thanks
I don't know about this sorry. Maybe ask in some Australian Civic forums or Facebook pages 👍🏻
What mileage was the car on when you did this dude? Do you think it was original fluid?
Raljix something like 106k. I'm not sure mate sorry.
Hey man, I'm actually in the market for a car and kinda undecided between the FN1 Type S and the FN2 Type R. How much is a full tank of petrol on the CTR and how many miles do you get? Bearing in mind that the car will be my daily driver and running costs is a bit of an issue.
Hi mate. If running cost is you're main concert then go with the type s. I can get 50 quid in and it's out in no time if you enjoy the car or do long distance driving.
But I tested the Type R and that VTEC rawr is addictive, haha. I'm just trying to gauge a rough estimation of how much I'll be spending on fuel, hence why I asked how much you usually get out on a full tank and how much it costs for a full tank.
k3ntris well like I said I can get just over £50 in a tank and I'd probably spend about £30 just driving around my own city.
I can hit over 40mpg cruising in my factory fn2 type r. It's all in how you drive.
Running costs ain't gonna be that much different between the two, especially if you can get insured decently on an fn2
How much oil does a K20a gearbox oil take?
What size washers do you need? Are they both 20mm for the gearbox drain and refill plugs or is one of them 14mm and the other 20mm?
From memory I'm not 100% on that one sorry.
Aren't they both 14mm (10mm ID)?
By the way, what size socket is the drain plug?
Hiya mate. Would this be the same process for the 1.8 (ie the FN1)? Cheers
I'm not sure mate but I'd assume it'd be very similar.
How much would it cost to get the gear change problem fixed??
I'm not sure, I'd ask a gearbox specialist for a price.
hi mate how many litres did you use?
thanks.
I used two bottles and they are a ltr each.
@@FNLEW thanks man. btw really like the videos you and your dad make. I think if you had a car like a gti though you would get 10x the views. I have an fn2 now after watching your videos for a while. Am getting coolant done, brake fluids changing, pads, oil, oil filter, gearbox fluid all done. Just thinking though if its worth while changing the fuel filter though.
@@jacksmith-ok8tx thank you very much. It wouldn't hurt anything changing the fuel filter. If I had a gti I'd be driving around in a car that I don't perticularty like and what's the fun in that? I'd lose a lot of viewers too who love honda.
@@FNLEW Yeah i know what you mean. I have driven the mk7 gti in manual and no where near the fun of the fn2 type r. BTW any tips for launching the car just lost a race against an audi a1 1.4 185bhp (turbo) couple of days ago.
@@jacksmith-ok8tx only thing I can say is they can bog didn't without having enough Revs. So make sure you're up there
lol was just looking for a k20 mtf change video and cursed that "why are these all tutorials for automatics" xd
Haha well here you go bud. I thought the same thing 😂
Those axle stands dont look as though they would take much weight ? Also i had to laugh , to me to you , sounded like the chuckle brothers ha ha ,,
Alan Cooper they can take tons mate especially with a simple bolt through systems. And thatsjudt how me and my dad work 😂
Did you have to replace the drain plug washer? Or can you reuse original??
Tony Prince I bought one specifically for it from H-tune but I left it at home at the time 🤦🏻♂️. We had a look at it and it was in good condition still so we used it again but preferably change it.
FNLEW cheers dude I just see the one on htune I will get one ordered up great job with the channel and car👌
Tony Prince no worries mate and thank you very much ☺
Thinking about getting one of these... From what I've gathered, they've sorted the synchro issues from 2009 onwards. Is this true?
I think that's more probable yes mate 👍🏻
Well they must've missed my 2009 as it pops out 3rd quite a bit!
DarkOfTheMoon95 reading through threads online there's quite a few number of people experiencing the same issue on 2009+ ctr's... Wasn't there a recall for this?
Untuchaball 96 Can't say I've ever heard of a recall for them. Would be too late for it now anyway. I'm going to change the gearbox oil as I don't think it's ever been done
DarkOfTheMoon95 any luck with the oil change mate? Wondering if it truly takes away the driving experience. Would you say you could live with it? I wish they had acknowledged this from production...
That skid plate is a bitch to remove and attach. And why a square socket? Thought only Dacias had those.
Completely agreed. I didn't think I used a square socket 🤔
how many litre have i put in my FN1 1,8?
No clue on that engine mate sorry
'notchy'. You wanna try a 1978 vw T2 😂
I'd rather not 😂
I saw your car in Meadowhall car park last week 😁
Link to gloves mate?
Sorry mate my dad got me them through his work a few years back. They're Mac tools though.
So where in Yorkshire are you from?
Sheffield
@@FNLEW nice, me too 👍
How many litres oil did you use ??.
Just under two mate
bloody hell. looks like a 6h fucking job..
@@Janpva. Nowadays I can do this and a full service in under that. Just learning the first time.
@@FNLEW thanks you for your answer. I'm planning to do it. but only if I can do it under 3-4 hours. You did not change the washer after all right ? did you check the spi joint ?
@@Janpva. I'm sure you could do that if you plan ahead. I didn't in this video but I'd get one if you can. I didn't check the joint.
@@FNLEW plan..? unscrew the plate. draine oil. fil oil. put back the plate. what could go wrong ? 😅
@@Janpva. I mean more have all your tools and supplies to hand ready to go 😂
Sorry to sound a bit of a spoil sport, but it just goes back to normal within a week or 2 pal 🙄
Darrren Fisher if it does it does mate. I doubt it's been changed before so it'll do it good either way. You can tell more with the weighted knob at least.
Darrren Fisher mine hasnt after 3 months 😂
It's your dad who did it not you
Ok
Как же вы бедно живёте.
У русских есть гараж, в гараже смотровая яма. И обслуживать авто нет проблем - заменить масло или сделать любой другой ремонт.
How poorly you live. The Russians have a garage, a viewing pit in the garage. And to service the car is no problem - to replace the oil or make any other repairs.
That is not how houses are built in the UK.