It's giving Magdalene Laundry's.... Being an Irish woman living in Ireland who grew up during the time when huge mass graves and evidence of major abuse was being connected to these (often Catholic nun led) 'mother and baby homes', this actually scares the shit out of me, holy fuck
As an Irish woman born to an unwed mother before the last laundry shut down (and having lived alongside the trauma that resulted) there is a horror this concept brings up that I can't even begin to try and express. Like I now understand how it feels for one's blood to run cold.
its kinda aggervating how they say "oh no keep the baby until it comes out then its your problem and you should deal with the consequence of your actions"
that's all it is. an ad for their charity. they just went on mike pence's podcast after this. being an evangelical is a fast pass to the mainstream media, and starting a nonprofit means you appeal to "both sides". it sucks so bad.
When the article said that the husband came home one day and was very specific that they needed to move a single pregnant woman into their house, am I the only one who got major predator vibes from that? 👀
Yeah, she was a neighbor, right? Was she suddenly losing her home? Maybe I'm missing something there. I unfortunately got the feeling that this guy has a "thing" for pregnant women. Then they showed a pic of who I think was that neighbor and she was very attractive. Makes me wonder.
It's common that these kind of "wayward" support groups often prey upon the women in their care. I was scared about that too, especially from the religiously zealous.
I just assumed that the husband got the neighbor pregnant and passed it off on the gullible wife… it’s very convenient that he comes up with this idea and a few days later gets the suddenly pregnant neighbor to move in…
@@annaalessandrini9965 yes, he's a creep with a pregnancy or breeder kink. He's probably been trying to inception this idea into his wife's head for years because it would be creepy if it was his idea and he was as excited as his wife about having a constant supply of single, pregnant, usually young, probably vulnerable and desperate cis het women. Getting them dependant on the help so he can spring the trap. They would do as he asked or be out on the street again broke, hungry, alone, and way past the point of no return in their pregnancy. While I hope this is not the situation it wouldn't be the first time a religious figure used that position to coerce someone into doing things they don't want to do.
This is very much giving me Handmaid's Tale. Anyone else also think the pregnant single neighbor is because of the husband? He came up with a very specific type of woman to help and after that just "happened to notice" something was "different" about her to know by just looking that she was pregnant?? On top of all that, I feel like they might just be finessing their way to being Texas land owners.100 acres down there isn't cheap but this is one way to go about acquiring it. I have so many thoughts about all of this 😂
How much do you wanna bet that Brian got a woman pregnant and instead of admitting it to his wife, came up with the idea of a maternity ranch so he could support his mistress and child and keep his marriage intact?
Similar places in the past have been a nightmare. Women being forced to work and pay for the "help", women forced to adopt their babies out, and these places being paid for the babies, babies and mothers dying on the property. Just look up the butter box babies. Its only one of many disgusting examples.
I can't find the words to describe how scary this is...all of it. A maternity ranch sounds like something that should exist in a horrible dystopian future, but it's current events 😫 I love the concept of community for people seeking help BUT then the religious plug, so it's not community for everyone...it's conformity to a Christian way of life. I think what irks me most of all is the pure excitement it seems she has to step into this moment. My heart sinks for women losing access to a safe abortion and people like this rejoice in it
i cant even begin to describe the rage these people make me feel. the narcissism of it all. they live in this seperate reality from the rest of the world and cant possibly fathom that anyone wouldn't want their demented lifestyle.
One of my student was in a similar grow up situation. She has a single mom who has to rely on her church for shelter and support. From what my student said, it was an extremely oppressing and abusive environment. My student has been away from the congregation and her mom(still live with the church), living on government support, sharing rooms with strangers to survive. AND she's constantly facing problems with social service agents threatening to take her support away. This place sounds horrifying
As a kid growing up in the hills of eastern Kentucky I can remember hearing about ‘the devil’ ‘hell’ ‘sin’ for the first time at school from my classmates. I didn’t go to church, didn’t have any exposure to Christianity at home. I remember feeling kinda embarrassed that I was so out of the loop, but as an adult I realize it was a blessing. I know my sense of right and wrong isn’t rooted in scripture or my bible study lessons. I dont have to discuss it with the pastor to know that this is wrong. You’re exactly right this feels like an MLM, only it’s worse because it’s federally endorsed. Here instead of a bunch of different earning levels you have the one major level, that tax exempt status. All you have to do is ‘serve’ the needy people, exploit their story of need for fundraising, and convert your most dedicated clients into mini me influencer/salespeople to keep the cycle going!
This reminds of "Lebensborn" where "Arian" single women were impregnated by NS officers and officials. All for the sake of "valuable" babies that would however never have a regular family life. Pure numbers.
what do they do if women miscarry or have a still birth? do they just shun them because god didn’t want their baby to live so they must be bad people? that’s so fucked up i cannot even imagine
there are so many issues with all of it!! not only the stuff like that, but also just women who don't want a baby. why would we make them have a frigging baby? so they can "live their godly mission" or whatever? so gross!!!
I think it's important to be clear about adoption not being an alternative to abortion. Adoption is an alternative to parenting. Abortion is an alternative to pregnancy. And your guess about their attitude towards adoption misses the much darker reality: homes for unwed mothers are often tightly linked to adoption agencies. They are usually pushing for the outcome to be adoption pretty hard. If it weren't for the risk of sounding like a paranoid conspiracy theorist, I would probably just call it trafficking. They are typically pushing the women they are "supporting" towards adoption.
08:00 "where motherhood was not only supported but also exalted as a part of god's plan for the universe" I was cringing offscreen but locked eyes with you holding the same horrified expression
This is so mind-boggling to me. As someone who used to *be* one of these people until quite recently (raised fundy, graduated from Bible college, volunteered at an anti-choice pregnancy center), I cannot fathom how someone can live through the past few years in this country and not see the error of their ways. Not to mention the husband wanting to have a single, pregnant woman in his house is creepy af.
So the husband *definitely* got the neighbor woman pregnant and this was the plan he came up with to hide it 🤣 Like he comes home one day out of the blue and had this "vision from god" and then later *just so happens* to notice that their neighbor is pregnant? 🙄 Seems a little fishy to me 😅
Great video! The part at the end about white evangelical culture dominating the culture is SPOT ON. As a trans person who grew up in that culture, let me just say, it's a nightmare from start to finish, and I barely made it out alive. Maybe she'll help a handful of people, but I guarantee that if she starts making a lot of money off this endeavor, it'll probably be hugely fucked up and abusive behind the scenes.
I'm afab, and I feel terrible for all the other Afab people who are in Texas fighting against these horrible laws.. The fact that they dont even have a loophole for rape and incest is just blatantly sexist... Idk its so disgusting, and as bad as it is its good that people are talking abt it and educating more people on why its wrong. Anyway, love this video :-]
I didn't wanna get too much into that topic in the video cause a)TH-cam but b) triggering for people. But you're right. It's disgusting. And the part where they "go to their pastor to get the christian response to that question" is even worse. like hey everybody, come to church and learn the talking points in case you meet a victim irl!!!
It's funny that the pastor did the comparison to slavery cause that's what that ranch sounds like...that and the fact that the birth rates are plummeting and the billionaires/corporations et all are realizing their "human capital" is dwindling. They see the status quo crumbling and are panicking. I feel that's why the U.S has fallen so far so fast when it comes to women's rights(I lived in Canada until recently currently in the UK) because what has been happening is TERRIFYING. Obviously there's money behind it and if you could follow it, it would show that it's same "people" undermining unions. But that's just me speculating cause what do I know..right? Lol but yeah that whole article made me feel exactly the same way you did and it.is.alarming. Well done and thank you x
The only good thing is the support for women who do choose to be mothers or to have these children. The rest is terrifying. What if these mothers don’t want to participate in the Bible studies? If they aren’t Christian and have no interest in becoming Christian would they be left in the cold with no help or support? Because it doesn’t sound like these people are interested in anyone who thinks differently than they do. Farm therapy is wonderful and great for those who are interested but the fact that it is so oppressively Christian and anti choice is scary.
I can’t even fully express my feelings on this… I want to know at what point will these women and their children be considered freeloaders? It’s always “ all lives matter” when it comes to abortion, but most people that say it don’t really believe it or apply to all the people already around them. They’re “pro-life” until the baby is born, but they don’t consider quality of life after they’re born. When it comes to doing shit to actually improve people’s lives, they’ll be the first screaming bootstrap bullshit, and telling people if they’re struggling they’re just not working hard enough…or that they shouldn’t have made babies. And after looking at the racial demographics of the last census, I’d love to see the women they’re bringing into this ranch. I’d highly suspect they want to make sure white babies are the ones being born.
My biological paternal grandmother was an Italian catholic teenager when she became pregnant with my dad. She was sent to an unwed mother's home in the mid 60s where she had my dad and he was put up for adoption. My biological paternal grandfather tracked my dad down 45 years later when he found out his ex girlfriend had passed away from cancer (she never wanted to track down my dad and he respected that choice) and from what he told us about these homes, a lot of these young women were not even given the choice to keep the baby, my biological grandmother most likely had severe PTSD from the experience.
Maternity Ranch is exactly the sort of concept I'd expect from a pro-vegan documentary trying to draw allegories between the suffering of animals and the suffering of women. Of course, the documentary would be arguing that we should treat animals better rather than treat women like cattle, but that's neither here nor there
so...... as someone whose MA is in jewish women & gender studies with a specific focus on hebrew bible...... the translation that she's saying is "helper" is wrong (18:26). "ezer kenegdo" (עזר כנגדו) more accurately translates to "equal opposite" or maybe "other half" but there's an inherent tension implied through the first woman's difference that results in a kind of balance between this first man and first woman. the translation is just bad but kristen's ignorantly placing the warped english on a pedestal as "truth" when that isn't even what the text says
I am half way through this video and I am so disgusted. First the two women that discuss the different roles, between a man and a woman… I’m sorry they can’t be serious. I am all for people having their beliefs but for them to push that crap onto other pisses me off. Then you have the Creepy MomMyCult leader that wants to bring in a bunch of white pregnant women for a full year. No. It’s creepy and it’s culty. The SB8 will be the downfall of this country (big part of it). AB will happen. There will be under ground clinics, there will be more deaths from this procedure because woman will go to underground clinics. So women don’t even know until 7-10 weeks they are pregnant, and let’s say they know before 6 weeks…that is such a big decision whether to keep the pregnancy or get the procedure. It is a lot to consider and I personally feel like someone will be pressured to get the procedure because time is running out and retreat it later. I could go on for hours about how SB8 is unconstitutional. Thanks for you video!! It’s definitely a hard one for me but this needs to be told to the world
"I think the moms would feel better if we had in-house security" yeah sure that's what the dogs and gates and security guards are for, to keep the moms "safe"
This is giving teen mom's who got pulled from school rather than having ~the embarrassment~ of being a teen mom. I grew up in Alabama, though so idk if they do that everywhere
And what happens when these women have to leave the ranch and go back to their real lives? Who will help them financially, emotionally, etc with the HUGE responsibility of taking care of a child?
The people who are doubting their abortion are being questioned by PROFESSIONAL people at the abortion clinics. They don't need your anti-abortion ideas
"My heart breaks for..." is code for "I am unable and/or unwilling to provide actual answers or solutions to this problem, but at least I have the decency to feel bad about it."
3:00 Farm to Market means she's gonna be in the country. Think like the rural roads what will be named like "County road" followed by a number. It's probably listed as "FM-407".
It is. In Texas we also have County Roads "1234 CR 4645" and in the county west of where Argyle is there are also Private Roads, "142 PR 180" which is basically when somebody who has land splits off an acre or two for their kids to build a house on and the county government just labels the shared dirt driveway a road so they can give the other house a separate address for fire/emergency/mail purposes. Usually those just have a row of mailboxes where they intersect the County Road. Farm to Market (FM) and Rural Route/Ranch Road (RR) are biggish main roads, usually with only one or two lanes on each side but higher speed limits, wide shoulders, and sometimes passing zones. The area around Argyle is in a state of transition, especially along FM 407, where hundred acre hay fields are being bought up by developers and turned into creepy McNeighborhoods full of half-million dollar ugly houses like the one Aubrey lives in. Funny enough her name is also the name of another town in a different part of Denton county doing the same thing.
Here’s the thing abt abortion: It’ll never be down to 0. Do what you want but people will have access to ways to get rid of an unwanted pregnancy. I’d rather those people be safe than to die trying to stop the pregnancy.
Holy hell I read a dystopian novel similar to this called “the farm” a little different but all around wow very dystopian much. Also you just made an hour of my life go by so fast lol
Going through your back catalogue of videos. Another great one!!! Christian social safety net is the scariest possibility to which we are swiftly moving towards. I love the Necrophagist shirt!
Shit like this reminds me why I liked the New Atheists when I was young. I grew up in the South and these folks are everywhere there. Indeed the fact that the Washington Post wants to portray this woman as a better person because she (temporarily) didn't like Trump has it exactly backwards. One of Trump's few good points was HE wasn't one of the evangelicals! Even if this ranch doesn't become a glorified work camp for single moms (which it probably will), the indoctrination to some of the creepiest beliefs this country produces sickens me. We've given these folks too much slack! Time to go back to complaining about fundies!
The thing about the pro choice movement is that they are absolutely not pro gd choice. They're pro recruiting little soldiers for their religion. I have always longed to be a parent and, as a trans masc person, have even pushed through dysphoria to want to be a birthing parent. I'm the kind of person who says (jokingly) that I'm going to steal cute babies that I see in public. I want a kid so diddly dang badly and could never get an abortion, but would fight tooth and nail to ensure anyone I knew who needed one could get one. You don't have to personally love the thought of abortion (for whatever your reason may be) to support people who want or need access to it.
I love your content and agree, but I wanna share that trans people also need abortions. A person who had a uterus and can maintain a pregnancy needs access to abortion, and not everyone who has a uterus is a women. Most people who have a uterus are women, but every person who aren’t women and has uteruses is excluded when cisnormative language is used (such as saying only women are impacted by lack of access to abortion). Cisgender women who don’t have a uterus are also disregarded. I know you support trans rights, so I know this isn’t malicious. I just wanted to share my perspective as a trans man who experienced a pregnancy scare.
Ok in one of the parts you skipped over they mention having nursing rooms. Like she's gonna force these women to have their babies, hold them hostage in a barn, and still shove them in a closet to feed their babies?
Omg, that's so fücked! Imagine she knows about her husband's special interest in pregnant women and the pregnant neighbour and this is her solution👀 Nah... I'm sure she subscribes to the whole belief that women's bodies are inherently a detriment and distraction to men and that it's on women to cover up so as to not make men feel those feelings and possibly "act out" -_-. Even when we're feeding our children, like if a man gets turned on while a woman is breastfeeding because he can see her breasts even tho there is a literal infant attached to her... Jesus Christ. And ya know what boggles my mind? Up until the like 1940s men couldn't be shirtless in public as it was seen as indecent but for some reason everyone forgets that men literally campaigned and protested for that right and de-sexualized their chests to the point where it's not a person's first thought. But when women suggest the same thing? Impossible :/
all of this is pretty horrifying in several ways. but goddamn i dont think i could have read this article by myself, why was it so friggin long and written like a damn novel. hearing it with your commentary was lots better.
You know what this is a horror show but I think Aubrey is redeemable. Get a Google alert on for her; I give it 15 years before she leaves Brian and the church and comes out saying she made a huge mistake. I’ll even put a tenner on it and I’m a therapist don’t test me :p
@@Kelgore so many red flags for that tbh. Kind of sounds like he used rhetoric about religion to coax her into a relationship with him and then spent the first ten years of their marriage training her to be subservient to him and leveraging evangelical interpretations of the bible to do it 🤢 I don’t mean to be too cynical but considering that she was trying to make her marriage sound idyllic and STILL made it sound like a hellscape.. the vibes were off. Do you agree?
Also, am I the only one who gets the heebs from her husband specifying so clearly that he wants to bring a single, pregnant, woman into their house. The only thing that could make that very specific statement worse is if he further added young and desperate. Are we taking bets on how long it's going to be before one of these poor women come forward to disclose Brian has a breeder kink, creeps into their rooms at night, and coerced them into sex acts under threat of being tossed out into the street. SKETCHY. AS. FUCK.
Adoption is also not as simple as they pretend it is. It's not win-win-win. It's win (adopter) - OK (adoptees) - lose (birthmothers). People are not meant to give away their flesh and blood children. The one thing she has right is that pregnant women often need help, but that help should not be taking their children away and giving them to someone else. It should mean, as it means in many civilized countries, that there are support services for mothers, including financial aid and affordable childcare.
Late to the party but the algorythm just put this on my recommended, so better late than never. I'm a registered midwife in the UK and the name maternity ranch initially put my in mind of the weekend courses in stuff like "facilitating normal birth for women with complex histories" and "connecting with the ancestral knowledge" which is basically fluff, but useful fluff. What this woman has done is open a lying-in home. The history of those is not... great. In fact the way lying-in homes were abused by unscrupulous women, some of them midwives, in order to claim life insurance pay outs, adoption fees etc led to massive changes to the way my profession was regulated in the UK. Fascinating stuff (if you have a strong stomach and ready access to mind bleach). I don't see this ending well for the women being subjected to this treatment, or their children.
44:55 "Here is your chain. Don't think, you are oppressed, see, it says right here 'I am free'! Chains don't lie 😉" Unfortunately, the community and care given there, could easily make me endure the indoctrination, compared to the alternative (though I'm picturing me, having the strength to not fall for it, because I'm sooo enlightened, i.e. I'd be using them, not them converting me).
They’re not going to give these women adequate medical care. They’re going to decide when they’re authorized to express that they’re in pain and how much and what they need and they will force them to pray it away. They will discard those who can’t take it in mass graves, they want a plantation of chattel not a community.
I think what really gets me is how the NYT and WaPo do these pieces like it's a wacky little adventure into "the other side" of America. No consideration for how most people in Texas would be repulsed by this. Fuckin yee-haw tourism, National Geographic type exoticization. Love too have no bodily autonomy cos the rest of the country thinks we're a joke lol :) Great vid, please do more long-form content 💪
This sounded like wholesome idea at first. Then I started listening to what the details were. Yeahhhh..... this is a smidgen of creepy and predatory mixed together. Edit: The idea of Christian social safety net as policy is not that removed from our current history. Though from what we saw from it was how it didn't work. Which makes one wonder what is it the current Christians are seeking from bringing it back.
It's giving Magdalene Laundry's.... Being an Irish woman living in Ireland who grew up during the time when huge mass graves and evidence of major abuse was being connected to these (often Catholic nun led) 'mother and baby homes', this actually scares the shit out of me, holy fuck
Yes I wasn't around but I saw a movie about this, it was infuriating and horrifying.
As an Irish woman born to an unwed mother before the last laundry shut down (and having lived alongside the trauma that resulted) there is a horror this concept brings up that I can't even begin to try and express. Like I now understand how it feels for one's blood to run cold.
Came here to mention this.
!!!!!!THIS!!!! THEY WANT ABUSE FACTORIES AND MASS GRAVES IN PLAIN SIGHT!!!
So incredibly sad. I fucking hate it.
its kinda aggervating how they say "oh no keep the baby until it comes out then its your problem and you should deal with the consequence of your actions"
its "keep the baby" and then "we will help you with the child as long as you stay christian"
@@Kelgore "heaven forbid you believe anything else"
@@Kelgore basically if you are not a christian you do not deserve the same financial help, emotional support, or acceptance
WaPo obviously sucks in most ways, but I was still shocked at how fluffy this article is. No one can convince me it's not a paid advertisement
that's all it is. an ad for their charity. they just went on mike pence's podcast after this. being an evangelical is a fast pass to the mainstream media, and starting a nonprofit means you appeal to "both sides". it sucks so bad.
"It's so weird these people think God cares about your relationships in College. No one cares." I love that quote.
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When the article said that the husband came home one day and was very specific that they needed to move a single pregnant woman into their house, am I the only one who got major predator vibes from that? 👀
Yeah, she was a neighbor, right? Was she suddenly losing her home? Maybe I'm missing something there. I unfortunately got the feeling that this guy has a "thing" for pregnant women. Then they showed a pic of who I think was that neighbor and she was very attractive. Makes me wonder.
It's common that these kind of "wayward" support groups often prey upon the women in their care. I was scared about that too, especially from the religiously zealous.
Me too. I am UNCOMFORTABLE about him.
I just assumed that the husband got the neighbor pregnant and passed it off on the gullible wife… it’s very convenient that he comes up with this idea and a few days later gets the suddenly pregnant neighbor to move in…
Just so much vomit.
So we all agree that Brian has a mistress he's hiding among these women, right?
My exact thought! The way he’s extremely specific with what kind of stranger he wants living in his home… and the pregnant neighbor, sus.
Honestly the power dynamic in place here give me more predator vibes than just cheating
@@annaalessandrini9965 yes, he's a creep with a pregnancy or breeder kink. He's probably been trying to inception this idea into his wife's head for years because it would be creepy if it was his idea and he was as excited as his wife about having a constant supply of single, pregnant, usually young, probably vulnerable and desperate cis het women. Getting them dependant on the help so he can spring the trap. They would do as he asked or be out on the street again broke, hungry, alone, and way past the point of no return in their pregnancy.
While I hope this is not the situation it wouldn't be the first time a religious figure used that position to coerce someone into doing things they don't want to do.
Lmao now the wife is playing amongus irl
This is very much giving me Handmaid's Tale. Anyone else also think the pregnant single neighbor is because of the husband? He came up with a very specific type of woman to help and after that just "happened to notice" something was "different" about her to know by just looking that she was pregnant?? On top of all that, I feel like they might just be finessing their way to being Texas land owners.100 acres down there isn't cheap but this is one way to go about acquiring it. I have so many thoughts about all of this 😂
you're right like even just that picture at 3:27 is straight out of THT
How much do you wanna bet that Brian got a woman pregnant and instead of admitting it to his wife, came up with the idea of a maternity ranch so he could support his mistress and child and keep his marriage intact?
Similar places in the past have been a nightmare. Women being forced to work and pay for the "help", women forced to adopt their babies out, and these places being paid for the babies, babies and mothers dying on the property. Just look up the butter box babies. Its only one of many disgusting examples.
I can't find the words to describe how scary this is...all of it. A maternity ranch sounds like something that should exist in a horrible dystopian future, but it's current events 😫 I love the concept of community for people seeking help BUT then the religious plug, so it's not community for everyone...it's conformity to a Christian way of life. I think what irks me most of all is the pure excitement it seems she has to step into this moment. My heart sinks for women losing access to a safe abortion and people like this rejoice in it
Handmaidens tale
i cant even begin to describe the rage these people make me feel. the narcissism of it all. they live in this seperate reality from the rest of the world and cant possibly fathom that anyone wouldn't want their demented lifestyle.
Especially when they use the faux "charity" to abuse, manipulate, and prey upon those who sought them out for help in a very vulnerable time.
One of my student was in a similar grow up situation. She has a single mom who has to rely on her church for shelter and support. From what my student said, it was an extremely oppressing and abusive environment. My student has been away from the congregation and her mom(still live with the church), living on government support, sharing rooms with strangers to survive. AND she's constantly facing problems with social service agents threatening to take her support away.
This place sounds horrifying
As a kid growing up in the hills of eastern Kentucky I can remember hearing about ‘the devil’ ‘hell’ ‘sin’ for the first time at school from my classmates. I didn’t go to church, didn’t have any exposure to Christianity at home. I remember feeling kinda embarrassed that I was so out of the loop, but as an adult I realize it was a blessing. I know my sense of right and wrong isn’t rooted in scripture or my bible study lessons. I dont have to discuss it with the pastor to know that this is wrong.
You’re exactly right this feels like an MLM, only it’s worse because it’s federally endorsed. Here instead of a bunch of different earning levels you have the one major level, that tax exempt status. All you have to do is ‘serve’ the needy people, exploit their story of need for fundraising, and convert your most dedicated clients into mini me influencer/salespeople to keep the cycle going!
This reminds of "Lebensborn" where "Arian" single women were impregnated by NS officers and officials. All for the sake of "valuable" babies that would however never have a regular family life. Pure numbers.
Wow. This is fucking horrifying. I really hope this turns out OK. But the vibes (and well-documented history) suggest that it's going to end terribly.
Especially when women get post partum depression/psychosis
what do they do if women miscarry or have a still birth? do they just shun them because god didn’t want their baby to live so they must be bad people? that’s so fucked up i cannot even imagine
there are so many issues with all of it!! not only the stuff like that, but also just women who don't want a baby. why would we make them have a frigging baby? so they can "live their godly mission" or whatever? so gross!!!
I think it's important to be clear about adoption not being an alternative to abortion. Adoption is an alternative to parenting. Abortion is an alternative to pregnancy.
And your guess about their attitude towards adoption misses the much darker reality: homes for unwed mothers are often tightly linked to adoption agencies. They are usually pushing for the outcome to be adoption pretty hard. If it weren't for the risk of sounding like a paranoid conspiracy theorist, I would probably just call it trafficking.
They are typically pushing the women they are "supporting" towards adoption.
I would call it trafficking without hesitation! I know they run these abusive exploitative rackets all over the world.
08:00
"where motherhood was not only supported but also exalted as a part of god's plan for the universe"
I was cringing offscreen but locked eyes with you holding the same horrified expression
This is so mind-boggling to me. As someone who used to *be* one of these people until quite recently (raised fundy, graduated from Bible college, volunteered at an anti-choice pregnancy center), I cannot fathom how someone can live through the past few years in this country and not see the error of their ways. Not to mention the husband wanting to have a single, pregnant woman in his house is creepy af.
So the husband *definitely* got the neighbor woman pregnant and this was the plan he came up with to hide it 🤣 Like he comes home one day out of the blue and had this "vision from god" and then later *just so happens* to notice that their neighbor is pregnant? 🙄 Seems a little fishy to me 😅
Great video! The part at the end about white evangelical culture dominating the culture is SPOT ON. As a trans person who grew up in that culture, let me just say, it's a nightmare from start to finish, and I barely made it out alive. Maybe she'll help a handful of people, but I guarantee that if she starts making a lot of money off this endeavor, it'll probably be hugely fucked up and abusive behind the scenes.
Fast track to child abuse that’s for sure.
I'm afab, and I feel terrible for all the other Afab people who are in Texas fighting against these horrible laws.. The fact that they dont even have a loophole for rape and incest is just blatantly sexist... Idk its so disgusting, and as bad as it is its good that people are talking abt it and educating more people on why its wrong. Anyway, love this video :-]
I didn't wanna get too much into that topic in the video cause a)TH-cam but b) triggering for people. But you're right. It's disgusting. And the part where they "go to their pastor to get the christian response to that question" is even worse. like hey everybody, come to church and learn the talking points in case you meet a victim irl!!!
The only social safety net Christians should be thinking about is an actual social safety-net.
It's funny that the pastor did the comparison to slavery cause that's what that ranch sounds like...that and the fact that the birth rates are plummeting and the billionaires/corporations et all are realizing their "human capital" is dwindling. They see the status quo crumbling and are panicking. I feel that's why the U.S has fallen so far so fast when it comes to women's rights(I lived in Canada until recently currently in the UK) because what has been happening is TERRIFYING. Obviously there's money behind it and if you could follow it, it would show that it's same "people" undermining unions. But that's just me speculating cause what do I know..right? Lol but yeah that whole article made me feel exactly the same way you did and it.is.alarming. Well done and thank you x
This sounds like a nightmare and I'm only 10 seconds in
yup, that's the whole vibe really
@@Kelgore give the article to Ari Aster and we'll have another horror classic. I kept getting midsommar vibes as you read
@@darkninjafirefox I didn’t mention handmaids take/Gilead because it felt too cliche but that’s really what this is trying to be
The only good thing is the support for women who do choose to be mothers or to have these children.
The rest is terrifying. What if these mothers don’t want to participate in the Bible studies? If they aren’t Christian and have no interest in becoming Christian would they be left in the cold with no help or support? Because it doesn’t sound like these people are interested in anyone who thinks differently than they do.
Farm therapy is wonderful and great for those who are interested but the fact that it is so oppressively Christian and anti choice is scary.
Something I thought about the whole time is that Christians seem not to understand that “non-Christians” have religions too.
We have seen what happens with this idea before look up Magdalene laundries Ireland its fucking terrifying.
I don't think I could have gotten through this without your commentary. Thank you!
She is creating a work farm like they had for the poor.
Magdalene laundries
I can’t even fully express my feelings on this… I want to know at what point will these women and their children be considered freeloaders? It’s always “ all lives matter” when it comes to abortion, but most people that say it don’t really believe it or apply to all the people already around them. They’re “pro-life” until the baby is born, but they don’t consider quality of life after they’re born. When it comes to doing shit to actually improve people’s lives, they’ll be the first screaming bootstrap bullshit, and telling people if they’re struggling they’re just not working hard enough…or that they shouldn’t have made babies.
And after looking at the racial demographics of the last census, I’d love to see the women they’re bringing into this ranch. I’d highly suspect they want to make sure white babies are the ones being born.
Yay more pain
that's right =]
My biological paternal grandmother was an Italian catholic teenager when she became pregnant with my dad. She was sent to an unwed mother's home in the mid 60s where she had my dad and he was put up for adoption. My biological paternal grandfather tracked my dad down 45 years later when he found out his ex girlfriend had passed away from cancer (she never wanted to track down my dad and he respected that choice) and from what he told us about these homes, a lot of these young women were not even given the choice to keep the baby, my biological grandmother most likely had severe PTSD from the experience.
Maternity Ranch is exactly the sort of concept I'd expect from a pro-vegan documentary trying to draw allegories between the suffering of animals and the suffering of women.
Of course, the documentary would be arguing that we should treat animals better rather than treat women like cattle, but that's neither here nor there
This what I thought initially lol
so...... as someone whose MA is in jewish women & gender studies with a specific focus on hebrew bible...... the translation that she's saying is "helper" is wrong (18:26). "ezer kenegdo" (עזר כנגדו) more accurately translates to "equal opposite" or maybe "other half" but there's an inherent tension implied through the first woman's difference that results in a kind of balance between this first man and first woman. the translation is just bad but kristen's ignorantly placing the warped english on a pedestal as "truth" when that isn't even what the text says
I am half way through this video and I am so disgusted. First the two women that discuss the different roles, between a man and a woman… I’m sorry they can’t be serious. I am all for people having their beliefs but for them to push that crap onto other pisses me off. Then you have the Creepy MomMyCult leader that wants to bring in a bunch of white pregnant women for a full year. No. It’s creepy and it’s culty.
The SB8 will be the downfall of this country (big part of it). AB will happen. There will be under ground clinics, there will be more deaths from this procedure because woman will go to underground clinics. So women don’t even know until 7-10 weeks they are pregnant, and let’s say they know before 6 weeks…that is such a big decision whether to keep
the pregnancy or get the procedure. It is a lot to consider and I personally feel like someone will be pressured to get the procedure because time is running out and retreat it later.
I could go on for hours about how SB8 is unconstitutional.
Thanks for you video!! It’s definitely a hard one for me but this needs to be told to the world
"I think the moms would feel better if we had in-house security" yeah sure that's what the dogs and gates and security guards are for, to keep the moms "safe"
I'm going to vomit.
lmfao these comments
This is a cult.
A better name for the camp is, A religious indoctrination camp
I love you. Vibes are unmatched
"Democracy Dies in Darkness" omg I died from the snark
I can't comprehend that this is a society we currently exist within.
Dystopian af.
This is giving teen mom's who got pulled from school rather than having ~the embarrassment~ of being a teen mom.
I grew up in Alabama, though so idk if they do that everywhere
That being said, communes sound great.
This is a very bad thing look up magdalene laundries in Ireland
It’s wild to hear the darkest shit possible framed in such a benign way
This is a nightmare
this is a literal plot to an episode of an adult swim show.
And what happens when these women have to leave the ranch and go back to their real lives? Who will help them financially, emotionally, etc with the HUGE responsibility of taking care of a child?
The people who are doubting their abortion are being questioned by PROFESSIONAL people at the abortion clinics. They don't need your anti-abortion ideas
"My heart breaks for..." is code for "I am unable and/or unwilling to provide actual answers or solutions to this problem, but at least I have the decency to feel bad about it."
would love to see you talk more about this!!
handmaid's tale vibes, truly nauseating
“And now they’re working to subsidize the farm…” 😂
It makes me so sad that the words of men written thousands of years ago are still running these people's lives. Religion is so pathetic and sad.
"we don't put 'the' in front of things in california" all your numbered roads beg to differ kelgore
😂So true! I wonder where that comes from?
3:00 Farm to Market means she's gonna be in the country. Think like the rural roads what will be named like "County road" followed by a number. It's probably listed as "FM-407".
It is. In Texas we also have County Roads "1234 CR 4645" and in the county west of where Argyle is there are also Private Roads, "142 PR 180" which is basically when somebody who has land splits off an acre or two for their kids to build a house on and the county government just labels the shared dirt driveway a road so they can give the other house a separate address for fire/emergency/mail purposes. Usually those just have a row of mailboxes where they intersect the County Road. Farm to Market (FM) and Rural Route/Ranch Road (RR) are biggish main roads, usually with only one or two lanes on each side but higher speed limits, wide shoulders, and sometimes passing zones. The area around Argyle is in a state of transition, especially along FM 407, where hundred acre hay fields are being bought up by developers and turned into creepy McNeighborhoods full of half-million dollar ugly houses like the one Aubrey lives in. Funny enough her name is also the name of another town in a different part of Denton county doing the same thing.
Here’s the thing abt abortion:
It’ll never be down to 0.
Do what you want but people will have access to ways to get rid of an unwanted pregnancy.
I’d rather those people be safe than to die trying to stop the pregnancy.
Holy hell I read a dystopian novel similar to this called “the farm” a little different but all around wow very dystopian much. Also you just made an hour of my life go by so fast lol
A perfect Dallas morning is when it's not hot or humid.
why does this sound like the start of a cult?
They’re dominionists!!!
Seems like a cult. Perhaps not in a formal sense, but the vibes are potent.
Edit: disclaimer
Going through your back catalogue of videos. Another great one!!! Christian social safety net is the scariest possibility to which we are swiftly moving towards. I love the Necrophagist shirt!
Shit like this reminds me why I liked the New Atheists when I was young. I grew up in the South and these folks are everywhere there. Indeed the fact that the Washington Post wants to portray this woman as a better person because she (temporarily) didn't like Trump has it exactly backwards. One of Trump's few good points was HE wasn't one of the evangelicals!
Even if this ranch doesn't become a glorified work camp for single moms (which it probably will), the indoctrination to some of the creepiest beliefs this country produces sickens me. We've given these folks too much slack! Time to go back to complaining about fundies!
I hate it so much.
The thing about the pro choice movement is that they are absolutely not pro gd choice. They're pro recruiting little soldiers for their religion. I have always longed to be a parent and, as a trans masc person, have even pushed through dysphoria to want to be a birthing parent. I'm the kind of person who says (jokingly) that I'm going to steal cute babies that I see in public. I want a kid so diddly dang badly and could never get an abortion, but would fight tooth and nail to ensure anyone I knew who needed one could get one.
You don't have to personally love the thought of abortion (for whatever your reason may be) to support people who want or need access to it.
I love your content and agree, but I wanna share that trans people also need abortions. A person who had a uterus and can maintain a pregnancy needs access to abortion, and not everyone who has a uterus is a women. Most people who have a uterus are women, but every person who aren’t women and has uteruses is excluded when cisnormative language is used (such as saying only women are impacted by lack of access to abortion). Cisgender women who don’t have a uterus are also disregarded. I know you support trans rights, so I know this isn’t malicious. I just wanted to share my perspective as a trans man who experienced a pregnancy scare.
This comment makes me think of Monty Python's Life of Brian
I’ll try to use more inclusive language next time!
Ok in one of the parts you skipped over they mention having nursing rooms. Like she's gonna force these women to have their babies, hold them hostage in a barn, and still shove them in a closet to feed their babies?
Omg, that's so fücked! Imagine she knows about her husband's special interest in pregnant women and the pregnant neighbour and this is her solution👀
Nah... I'm sure she subscribes to the whole belief that women's bodies are inherently a detriment and distraction to men and that it's on women to cover up so as to not make men feel those feelings and possibly "act out" -_-. Even when we're feeding our children, like if a man gets turned on while a woman is breastfeeding because he can see her breasts even tho there is a literal infant attached to her... Jesus Christ.
And ya know what boggles my mind? Up until the like 1940s men couldn't be shirtless in public as it was seen as indecent but for some reason everyone forgets that men literally campaigned and protested for that right and de-sexualized their chests to the point where it's not a person's first thought. But when women suggest the same thing? Impossible :/
that bit about women being helpers (just before the girl defined clip) etc sounded so much like the transformed wife.
all of this is pretty horrifying in several ways. but goddamn i dont think i could have read this article by myself, why was it so friggin long and written like a damn novel. hearing it with your commentary was lots better.
Um…, um…..um…..WTF?!?!
4:28 this already sounds like a cult
Great video!
dang youre fast ;)
You know what this is a horror show but I think Aubrey is redeemable. Get a Google alert on for her; I give it 15 years before she leaves Brian and the church and comes out saying she made a huge mistake. I’ll even put a tenner on it and I’m a therapist don’t test me :p
whats your opinion on the language Bryan uses to speak to his wife?
@@Kelgore so many red flags for that tbh. Kind of sounds like he used rhetoric about religion to coax her into a relationship with him and then spent the first ten years of their marriage training her to be subservient to him and leveraging evangelical interpretations of the bible to do it 🤢 I don’t mean to be too cynical but considering that she was trying to make her marriage sound idyllic and STILL made it sound like a hellscape.. the vibes were off. Do you agree?
I love that I got a "pro-life" commercial before this even started
Calling suburban megachurch-goers the vanguard 🤔
And so Gilead begins to form.... depressing. Under his eye...
Definitely more! enjoyed this topic!!
Also, am I the only one who gets the heebs from her husband specifying so clearly that he wants to bring a single, pregnant, woman into their house. The only thing that could make that very specific statement worse is if he further added young and desperate. Are we taking bets on how long it's going to be before one of these poor women come forward to disclose Brian has a breeder kink, creeps into their rooms at night, and coerced them into sex acts under threat of being tossed out into the street.
SKETCHY. AS. FUCK.
Yep I smell big grants, run it for 20 years or so, and have mortgage paid off huh?
woahwoahwoahwoahwoah 33 minutes in. Theory: The single pregnant woman they were destined to take in was impregnated by the husband. Boom
A necessary video. A huge bravo from France !
Adoption is also not as simple as they pretend it is. It's not win-win-win. It's win (adopter) - OK (adoptees) - lose (birthmothers). People are not meant to give away their flesh and blood children.
The one thing she has right is that pregnant women often need help, but that help should not be taking their children away and giving them to someone else. It should mean, as it means in many civilized countries, that there are support services for mothers, including financial aid and affordable childcare.
Just a comment for extra engagement! Love your content. Keep up the good work!
I lost it at your framed photo of Budd Dwyer, lmfao. Please tell me more about your motivations behind this art piece
Awesome as usual, watched it entirely at once!
Late to the party but the algorythm just put this on my recommended, so better late than never. I'm a registered midwife in the UK and the name maternity ranch initially put my in mind of the weekend courses in stuff like "facilitating normal birth for women with complex histories" and "connecting with the ancestral knowledge" which is basically fluff, but useful fluff. What this woman has done is open a lying-in home. The history of those is not... great. In fact the way lying-in homes were abused by unscrupulous women, some of them midwives, in order to claim life insurance pay outs, adoption fees etc led to massive changes to the way my profession was regulated in the UK. Fascinating stuff (if you have a strong stomach and ready access to mind bleach). I don't see this ending well for the women being subjected to this treatment, or their children.
Doesn't the Catholic charities do the same ? House pregnant females? Where do the children go?
44:55 "Here is your chain. Don't think, you are oppressed, see, it says right here 'I am free'! Chains don't lie 😉"
Unfortunately, the community and care given there, could easily make me endure the indoctrination, compared to the alternative (though I'm picturing me, having the strength to not fall for it, because I'm sooo enlightened, i.e. I'd be using them, not them converting me).
They’re not going to give these women adequate medical care. They’re going to decide when they’re authorized to express that they’re in pain and how much and what they need and they will force them to pray it away. They will discard those who can’t take it in mass graves, they want a plantation of chattel not a community.
I think what really gets me is how the NYT and WaPo do these pieces like it's a wacky little adventure into "the other side" of America. No consideration for how most people in Texas would be repulsed by this. Fuckin yee-haw tourism, National Geographic type exoticization. Love too have no bodily autonomy cos the rest of the country thinks we're a joke lol :)
Great vid, please do more long-form content 💪
This sounded like wholesome idea at first. Then I started listening to what the details were. Yeahhhh..... this is a smidgen of creepy and predatory mixed together.
Edit: The idea of Christian social safety net as policy is not that removed from our current history. Though from what we saw from it was how it didn't work. Which makes one wonder what is it the current Christians are seeking from bringing it back.
Oh hell yeah
26:22 You are correct on the pronunciation of Amarillo.
Or the women have the children and then The children are sold on the open market. They used to do that. It was on the downlow then.
oh no, my body is not meant to work at an office job 40 hours a week, guess I can't!
I let one of my wives watch this and now she has stopped submitting to my will. Christian men! Do not let any of your wives watch this TH-cam video!
omg great video, please PLEASE do more long-form stuff like this!! also very much considering getting my tubes tied asap lmao
Uhhh- I’ve heard some horrifying clips from the hosts of the Girl Defined channel. I think that one takes the cake.
i like the videos you go in depth about something like this one
Something tells me you're the only person who read this entire article completely through.
Please please please make the new series! I will watch every single episode!
Me: this video won’t be too shocking
Video: 17:35
Me: 🤢
Oh god oh no this is a recipe for disaster