You can pick up the RD-9 and the RD-8 for affordable money and not be afraid to take them out. If something happens... you can get another. Are they perfect replicas? Nope, but they close enough to be useful and cost 1/10 the price. Like Behringer or not, they are bringing affordable products to the market that fill a need.
@@holografik3327 I have a tr8s and I can't stand most of the 909 kicks or most of the kicks for that matter, rd9 is instantly inspirational and could bust a jam right away.
I LOVE how clean and smooth the RD-9 sounds. They gave it good guts and outputs. It's crazy how the TR-909 sound is still in 30 years later. I like all of its sounds, but the OH is my favorite. It's as part of my life as much as a piano sound.
The little Roland digital TR-09 is 2x the price of the RD-9. The Roland Execs INSIST that ppl follow their TECH LEAD. They scoff at the idea of giving ppl analog synths.
This is WAY better sounding than the original, and I know ! Forget about the Behringer primarily emulating the 909 and think of it as a beautiful drum synth in it's own right. The more you will appreciate the value of this brilliant piece of kit.
Apparently they took 5 units - all of which sounded very different - so had to design it to make what could thought to be a ‘typical’ sound. Probably why it doesn’t sound exactly like owners originals. I think 808 state lent them theirs.
Just bought one after watching this vid. Arrived today. To go with my td-3 I bought the other week. Very surprised how sturdy this feels! Great sounds. Now to attempt to bang out some acid house (without fl studio! )
Just got an RD-9 of my own last week. Never owned one personally but I've worked with the original a number of times over the years. TBH, if I had access to an original and could only use one or the other, it's an absolute no-brainer. The RD-9 is an AMAZING piece of kit.
I bought a 909 from a guy in london in the 90s for 600 sheets purely because Adamski got me hooked. Many years later i sold it for 1k to my inner pain. I moved house and took up djing on a Pioneer XDJ Mixer. Missing these sounds and the sequencer the R9 got me interested again. £242 was a no brainer. I am in love again.
Bit of time passed since this video dropped. And yes seems people get very involved in the sound of this and that, but the RD-8 & RD-9 are a blast to simply play. This Behringer definitely got right. Thanks Starsky
Guys I've discovered something that blew my socks off. The RD9 accepts midi CC. I found this out completely by accident but CC75 affects the RD9 hi hats pitch. Let me know if it works for you guys and if you find out any other CCs that work. Can't find the midi implementation chart anywhere.
Sold my 808 and bought a 909 late 80s (had to sell to buy something else) and when I listen to my recordings of those days I still wonder why people like this sound so much. I remember regretting I sold the 808 and replaced it with a 909. They're worlds apart and the 909 sound was never my thing. Nice review though Starsky!!!
I have to admit.. I think I edited a bit out saying something similar. You get the 808 out, plug it in and everything instantly sounds amazing. The 909 sounds don't blow you away in comparison, they don't instantly grab you like the 808. It's only once I start adding instruments and grooves with this that I really feel it. Hence I think part of why I enjoyed adding the bits ad bobs in here. I have to say I really like this though :)
I owned a 707 back in the day, which was PCM samples and Roland’s response to the Linn drum. I got sick of the sound really quickly, though programming was a breeze. These old recreations just seem so limited in comparison to modern groove boxes.
RD-9 sounds great to me- it's gonna go thru compression and fx anyway, but the raw sound is close enough. Can't believe I'll own an "808" (RD-8) and a "909". Thanks for the great video.
As I said at the end, I recon if I had a few in here they'd all be slightly different but all have the same character. This is perfect - especially for the price!
Just ordered mine. Say what you want about Behringer but they have opened up a whole world of gear to me that I would have never in a thousand years had access to. I love them. Tha ks for all your amazing vids man.
Greetings Starsky. The extra decay on the TR-09 is the same sound as the original 909 revision 2 model. I'm pretty sure that is what Roland emulated their TR-09 on. I have done a 'does it work in the mix comparison video between an original 909 and the TR-09. The TR-09 does an excellent job compared to the original. It's not 100%, more like 90% but in the mix, it can definitely work. However, the clone that is a 100% copy of an original 909 is the Nava. That thing is bang on. I'll pick up the Behringer Hi-Fi model eventually.
I love this thing. But the lights drive me crazy because I'm very colorblind and I can't tell the colors apart on the dim little lights AT ALL, which means that I can't even tell if a step is triggering unless I wait for the pattern to come back around and see if it plays (if the step light is on for some other reason). But I still like it. It's convenient that the 606/707 are the ones that are easy to program and perform with because they're the cheap ones. And now we have an 808/909 that are easy to use, too! This made me gain a lot of respect for Behringer. I dunno about the RD-8, though. It's just not right without an instrument select knob. The missing knob really stands out the instant you see it. But I don't hate the missing knob as much as I hate the USB Micro-B power connector on the TR-08...
I struggle to love the sound of the 909, my head says buy it but my heart says different. This is a classic but don't know if it does anything for me. Thanks for the in depth review!
Not knowing much about the original machine, I must say I prefer the overall feel of the sounds on the RD-9. They sound warmer and more pleasant to me. Unexpected but cool. Thank you!
Nice review as always! If an artist can get over the sporadic show-off 909 owner bragging about it, the $350 RD9 will probably do for the audience. Add to that no worries about a 909 disappearing from the stage/back-stage. Anyone experienced stolen instruments, gear during/after a gig?
I had a TR-909 stolen from me in 2001.. after 12 months of dealing with the police doing nothing I just beat the shizz out of the guy on his property when he went to his mailbox.. then I had to pay a lawyer $500 to get out of trouble.. I would do it again.. 👊🤣
RD-9 just landed on my doorstep last night. I also have a TR-09, which I love. I didn't need the RD-9 but I had access to it, so I figured, why not? How many 909 clones are enough? Criticisms aside, if a musician can make good music, they can do it on any piece of equipment.
The RD 9 has an interesting sound for certain dance songs. I hear echoes of Phil Collins, Enigma, Rhythm is a Dancer, Pump up the Jams and a lot of other mega hits. It sounds very “squirty” or “splashy” at times. It definitely has a stylistic sound.
On the TR-909 the Snare and Handclap share the same noise source so when you played them simultaneously you were listening to the paralleled filters on the Snare and Clap, this produced a characteristic "phasey" quality. Does the RD-9 replicate this?
Ah christ !! Somebody borrow our man Starsky an original 909 asap !! If i remember correct the TR-09 doesn't sound as good as the original 909. Excited about this video regardless !!
I like hihats of RD-9 much more than in TR-09. In Behringer hihats are smooth, round, "natural". As I care about hi-end no less than about low-end, this is very important to me. While both use samples, RD-9 sounds less like 'a sample' to me than TR-09. I could get RD-9 even just for the hihats :D
Bought one of these after watching this mate. Love your reviews and love how you laugh at yourself when it doesn't quite go to plan. Solid addition to my octatrack to take care of drums instead of using precious octa channels on kicks hats snares etc. One question I do have, is it possible to send pattern change data to it do you know? I'd like to just make a bunch of patterns then have the octa tell it which pattern to play when. Cheers chief ✌️❤️
Starsky and Hutch, your the man. I love your vids. I have a request , if you have time in your insane beat making day, could you explain the method of shifting the timing ( knock the usb midi back and forth) around in logic for perfect syncing? I have the RD-9 and a ton of other synths and drum machines and they never are synced.
It’s a pain tbh… and seems to change as tracks become more/less complex. You’ll be aware of the MIdI synchronisation page in Logic and that you can set delay times for each instrument. It’s literally a case of attempting to balance everything. It’s a pet hate of mine for LPX as it can be hugely frustrating especially when you have a vocalist come in at the end and everything they sing is recorded out of time. I’ve not got to the bottom of it, and why it does it… so I feel your pain!
Great video. The note repeat should have a 3 setting - I don't need 5,000 rpm but need triplets! Did you not find the TR-09 harsh at the top end compared to the rd-9?
This was literally the first time I’d put them together.. so I was just listening for similarities. But I prefer the sound of the RD9 overall. triplets would be great. I sed to use them here and there to break up a beat. great ida.
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She's a beauty. Her brother died, so she's been hanging around a lot :( so a Savannah kitten has just joined the family who's keeping her more than occupied :)
Hi Starsky, great videos on the RD-9, thank you. On my unit, the note repeat function takes it's volume from the last velocity value transmitted from the pattern sequencer for that instrument. So if the pattern alternates it's accents (including global), the volume of the 'Repeat' roll changes as it plays over the top of the pattern's accent changes. Is that normal behaviour? I've only just noticed it and can't tell from your videos. I'm on the latest firmware and version of the SynthTribe app. Cheers!
I received my new RHYTHM DESIGNER RD-9 today from Andertons ..Anyways Upon unboxing mine came with a Euro 2 pin rather than UK 3 Pin PSU So i can not use it at this moment :( However a quick call to Anderton over the phone where they apologised & said they would send the correct one out to me asap :) ..looking forward to trying my new RD 9
Good vid. Sounds wicked but my tr-8s does all the Rolands and some for only £200 more than the rd-9. Love behringer though. Got a few of their gadgets. The tb-3 costs pennies and is wicked as fuck
I watched this 3 Times...Thanks a lot! One question: The Poly Mode doesnt do anything when Im using it....I Set the lenght, but nothing happens... am I missing something?
Someone in the comments told me I was using it incorrectly. If you read through you’ll find d it (I’ve forgotten what they said). FYI I bought this it’s not a ‘review unit’ I’ve bought almost every Behringer you see on the channel - others were loaned to me by viewers.
@@StarskyCarr Thank you. Yes I've found the answer in amongst the 288 comments and on relistening I also heard that you'd bought the unit at the end of your video Thanks for your excellent reviews and tutorials. :-)
I don't understand why Roland hasn't done this... there is obviously a market for it. And honestly, while I don't have a problem with Behringer, if Roland and Behringer both released remakes, I'd get the Roland one! Even if it was $100 more! But they just keep making digital re-releases... 🤷
Great review. Thank you for this. But the main reason why I didn't buy an RD-8 or will not buy an RD-9 is the convoluted way of the user interface on both of these machines. Give me the simplicity of the old TR-808-909 any day over this.
I have to say this is a lot easier than the TR09 which is the same as the originals. I think it’s been given an overhaul since the initial RD8 release a couple of years ago. I remember that had a few weird implementations here and there.
hi! it seems that each song can have 16 patterns and each pattern can have several loop bars... but it seems that the song is limited to 16 changes between different patterns... right?
i have a tr 6s and the rd-9. The rd-9 sounds slightly better and having the rd allows me to open up the few channels i have on the tr for other exotic drums and sampling =D
So you can't hear the filters or effects on headphones I'm guessing or I have a faulty unit. I'm thinking it probably goes through the main one. Love this machine so far. It's perfect!
Hi I've learned a lot from this video but I can't find out how to play a song I've created or how to restart the song. Hope you can help . Thanks Robert
Thanks. I saw something about the designer recording the hi hats using a hybrid setup with a different upper and lower hats (ie not a matched pair). They were definitely samples though - which is why they’re so hard to recreate.
Happy to lend you my original 909 for a direct 1:1 comparison but, it’s a v1 firmware with none of the revision mods. So, midi timing will be crap and you’ll need a MIDI-DIN Sync converter. I have one if you need that too.
There will always be arguments over this one about sound quality. That being said if if works for you have at it hoss. I would like one, and very well may get one..
lol I'd bet 90% of the songs you listen to use a DAW or MPC with 909 samples. very few people produce with a 909 anymore. it's not worth the expense and space it consumes for a pretty limited function. everyone I know has switched to the Roland TR-8 or TR-8s, or they just use samples.
1) That BD in enhanced mode is killer. 2) Has anyone actually tested the triggers outs on the RD-9 to see if they trigger Roland +5volt trigger ins on synths because I know they RD-8 trigger outs were rubbish and didn’t.
Personal opinion purely based on my own sound tastes/what sounds better to my ears: TR-09 has the slightly better kick, snares are different but I like them both equally, RD-9 wins for the other sounds. Wish I wasn't so limited on studio space because my heart wants the RD-9, but the TR-09 might be a bit easier to fit into my setup. ...guess it's time to buy more table space for gear 😂
..I disagree.. I have owned a TR-909.. you will never be able to make a digital machine sound analog especially when you run it threw external effects..
@@normdurkin6425 i both agree and disagree with your comment. i think you would struggle to tell the difference on a record mate. if you didnt already know then you could easily be fooled into thinking a digital thing is analog these days. i own a fair bit of analog and digital kit and theres some things that are great sounding digital gear with a warm analog sound. sure less pleasant imperfections with most digital but its still close now. id go as far to say that my elektron analog keys sounds more digital than say my simple casio cz1000. and analog effects can make digital sound analog.. we figured that out a long time ago when we realised a simple analog filter can make a massive difference to a DCO or straight digital osc waveform. i do a few tricks to my machinedrum to make it sound more analog (and the md is really digital sounding) it ends up sounding more analog than my tempest or many other analog drums i own. analog doesnt mean too much anymore its just a tone that can now be replicated . ALSO THE BIGGIE!.. we mostly run our analog gear now into a computer to turn it completely digital. essentially all my analog gear is literally a digital recreation im listening to anyway once its gone through the ADC and DAC. it just becomes a digital emulation anyway 99% of the time when we listen anyway. all the tr909 vids on youtube are literally digital
@@daleadelic ..first of all you have no idea what you are talking about a DCO is not a digital oscillator.. a DCO in a Juno 106 is an digital controlled analog oscillator.. I own a Juno 106 and HS-60.. I also have 4 DCO's in my Prophet 08 rack which has a completely 100% analog signal path.. the only difference between a DCO and an VCO is that a DCO is much more stable.. 2nd I own 25 creates of the hardest hard abstract techno on planet earth.. I was a professional underground DJ from 1996-2001 and worked for the most exclusive underground record store north of NYC.. I have literally listened to over 10K records that was my job buying records from Syntax in New York and Prime in England.. if you actually believe what you are saying then bet me I can't tell the difference.. I guarantee you will loose your money and I will use it to buy more eurorack modules..
@@daleadelic ..that's hilarious your trying to tell me I couldn't tell the difference and you think a DCO is an digital oscillator.. that's obviously means you don't own any.. look up what a DCO is fruitloop.. I own about 18 analog synthesizers with DVO's and about 20 with VCO's.. lol
@@daleadelic ..you need to understand what you have before you start telling me what I know or don't know.. your elektron analog keys has both analog and digital abilities.. there is literally nothing on planet earth that is digital that has a warm analog sound.. don't believe me then let's bet $1k that I can tell the difference when it goes through external effects.. I would be happy to educate you take your money and buy more eurorack modules..
@@REOvolt I bought it but are insturctions unclear, I even do not know if I can use external midi signal to run paticular drums with midi notes from Ableton.
I have had mine for a week now and am VERY frustrated with it. I have tried following the "instructions" that come from the manual with no success. Their "Quick Start" guide is nothing more than a description of each button. The user manual is not very helpful either. I follow along and still cannot make a beat with this. Your video is slightly helpful but you go through it very fast and it's hard to follow. Is there ANY instruction available out there for a person who is just beginning? I feel I've wasted my money on this. HEEELLLPP!
Watch me, and keep on pausing. It’s all in there. It takes a while to get to grips with this stuff, and even I get frustrated with new kit. Stick with it and it’ll click into place at some point. Once you understand the way it works everything falls into place.
@@StarskyCarr Don't be shy Star, do a house call 😁 Don;t ask me why but the RD9 only caught my eye today, as a serious contender for a drum machine. Analog, 9 outs, cool sequencer and then the price. I am intending in using this for Berlin school, slow it down a ton, also add a P800 for good measure which should go nicely with my existing gear. As a drum machine, and I have had many, this should work if I process externally? I intend to go full pan mode with my DAW.
When my RD-9 is connected to ableton via External Instrument and my RD-9 is on step mode, the pattern I play only plays for one loop, but it isn't saved. Any idea why?
you've not got it in record mode by the sounds of things.. there's a bit in the manual about recording everything or just changing stuff for a performance. Can't quite remember the details - but I did the same :)
Some say yes, others no... The RD9 was based on a best-fit approach to 5 different 909s they had while developing it (including 808 State's). Apparently they all had their own particular tone as you'd expect after living different lives for 40 years. For me it undoubtedly gets that 909 character.
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You can pick up the RD-9 and the RD-8 for affordable money and not be afraid to take them out. If something happens... you can get another. Are they perfect replicas? Nope, but they close enough to be useful and cost 1/10 the price. Like Behringer or not, they are bringing affordable products to the market that fill a need.
a used tr-8 can do 909 and 808 and 707 ans 606 from less than one B and sounds closer so why ?
@@holografik3327 cause they look really bad 🎄🤣
@@holografik3327 I have a tr8s and I can't stand most of the 909 kicks or most of the kicks for that matter, rd9 is instantly inspirational and could bust a jam right away.
@@markomijac1995 the tr-8 and tr-8s are different
@@holografik3327 I have a TR 8 and I hate that it doesn't have A-B-1-2 and u can't save songs
I LOVE how clean and smooth the RD-9 sounds. They gave it good guts and outputs. It's crazy how the TR-909 sound is still in 30 years later. I like all of its sounds, but the OH is my favorite. It's as part of my life as much as a piano sound.
909 is same for EDM that guitar is for Rock, not kidding
if only present day Roland made stuff this good. Behringer opening up the world of these classic instruments to almost anyone is amazing
hi
The tr8s is a monster
It must have forced them to make affordable kit.
The little Roland digital TR-09 is 2x the price of the RD-9. The Roland Execs INSIST that ppl follow their TECH LEAD. They scoff at the idea of giving ppl analog synths.
@@fubokuen ok
This is WAY better sounding than the original, and I know ! Forget about the Behringer primarily emulating the 909 and think of it as a beautiful drum synth in it's own right. The more you will appreciate the value of this brilliant piece of kit.
Apparently they took 5 units - all of which sounded very different - so had to design it to make what could thought to be a ‘typical’ sound. Probably why it doesn’t sound exactly like owners originals. I think 808 state lent them theirs.
@@StarskyCarr Ahh, interesting. I bought the Poly D when I saw your video, that's amazing too. Keep these vids going, very informative and honest.
@@StarskyCarr Fun fact, Thomas Bangalter had five, maybe they all sounded different too
The Behringer sounds more like a real 909. I had two 909's in the 90's so I know what it should sound like.
Cool… good to know thanks.
Just bought one after watching this vid. Arrived today. To go with my td-3 I bought the other week. Very surprised how sturdy this feels! Great sounds. Now to attempt to bang out some acid house (without fl studio! )
Just got an RD-9 of my own last week. Never owned one personally but I've worked with the original a number of times over the years. TBH, if I had access to an original and could only use one or the other, it's an absolute no-brainer. The RD-9 is an AMAZING piece of kit.
It really does bring a huge daft smile to your face 😄
@@StarskyCarr Can't wait to get my mitts on a TD-3-MO. Proper lunacy, that'll be.
Really! That’s good to hear, I need to get my mits on one of these. It sounds amazing!
I bought a 909 from a guy in london in the 90s for 600 sheets purely because Adamski got me hooked.
Many years later i sold it for 1k to my inner pain.
I moved house and took up djing on a Pioneer XDJ Mixer.
Missing these sounds and the sequencer the R9 got me interested again.
£242 was a no brainer.
I am in love again.
RD-9 sounds like a polished 909, half of the grit has gone but its not necessary bad thing at all
Exactly my though. I owned a 909 and loved how raw and open it sounded through an analogue mixer. I could never replicate that sound in a DAW.
You can buy an elektron analog heat and still be way under the cost of a 909. Or maybe just run it through some shitty preamp to get that lo-fi grit!
@@carlosdrfx You meant Mackie right
@@lownrgy haven’t had experience with mackie, but low-cost old mixers and preamps have a tendency to ‘color’ the sound, especially with a hot signal.
@@lownrgy or a seck ;)
Bit of time passed since this video dropped. And yes seems people get very involved in the sound of this and that, but the RD-8 & RD-9 are a blast to simply play. This Behringer definitely got right. Thanks Starsky
Nice, I got my RD-9 yesterday. Thx for sharing, learned a lot :) My first impressions of the RD-9... WoW! :)
Mine too!
Very nice video. I just got my RD-9 Monday after Christmas as a gift to me. Now my drum machine collection is complete.
Guys
I've discovered something that blew my socks off.
The RD9 accepts midi CC.
I found this out completely by accident but CC75 affects the RD9 hi hats pitch.
Let me know if it works for you guys and if you find out any other CCs that work. Can't find the midi implementation chart anywhere.
That's awesome!! Or awesome and annoying, if it turns out to be the only one 🤔
Sold my 808 and bought a 909 late 80s (had to sell to buy something else) and when I listen to my recordings of those days I still wonder why people like this sound so much. I remember regretting I sold the 808 and replaced it with a 909. They're worlds apart and the 909 sound was never my thing.
Nice review though Starsky!!!
I have to admit.. I think I edited a bit out saying something similar. You get the 808 out, plug it in and everything instantly sounds amazing. The 909 sounds don't blow you away in comparison, they don't instantly grab you like the 808. It's only once I start adding instruments and grooves with this that I really feel it. Hence I think part of why I enjoyed adding the bits ad bobs in here. I have to say I really like this though :)
I owned a 707 back in the day, which was PCM samples and Roland’s response to the Linn drum. I got sick of the sound really quickly, though programming was a breeze. These old recreations just seem so limited in comparison to modern groove boxes.
Thanks for using the TR-09. Most of us cant afford a real 909 either, so it is great to hear it against the kit I DO own.
hah.. I never thought of that... er I mean that was exactly what I had in mind :)
That Open Hat, Crash, and Ride must be the most used drum samples of all time
RD-9 sounds great to me- it's gonna go thru compression and fx anyway, but the raw sound is close enough. Can't believe I'll own an "808" (RD-8) and a "909". Thanks for the great video.
As I said at the end, I recon if I had a few in here they'd all be slightly different but all have the same character. This is perfect - especially for the price!
@@StarskyCarr Thanks again for this, finally got hold of one and learning. It's really fun to record note repeats to make new-sounding beats.
Just ordered mine. Say what you want about Behringer but they have opened up a whole world of gear to me that I would have never in a thousand years had access to. I love them. Tha ks for all your amazing vids man.
Oh, and I was just referring to haters. Not you. Haha.
haha ... I got that.. and Thanks :)
Greetings Starsky.
The extra decay on the TR-09 is the same sound as the original 909 revision 2 model. I'm pretty sure that is what Roland emulated their TR-09 on. I have done a 'does it work in the mix comparison video between an original 909 and the TR-09. The TR-09 does an excellent job compared to the original. It's not 100%, more like 90% but in the mix, it can definitely work. However, the clone that is a 100% copy of an original 909 is the Nava. That thing is bang on.
I'll pick up the Behringer Hi-Fi model eventually.
I love this thing. But the lights drive me crazy because I'm very colorblind and I can't tell the colors apart on the dim little lights AT ALL, which means that I can't even tell if a step is triggering unless I wait for the pattern to come back around and see if it plays (if the step light is on for some other reason). But I still like it.
It's convenient that the 606/707 are the ones that are easy to program and perform with because they're the cheap ones. And now we have an 808/909 that are easy to use, too! This made me gain a lot of respect for Behringer. I dunno about the RD-8, though. It's just not right without an instrument select knob. The missing knob really stands out the instant you see it. But I don't hate the missing knob as much as I hate the USB Micro-B power connector on the TR-08...
I struggle to love the sound of the 909, my head says buy it but my heart says different. This is a classic but don't know if it does anything for me. Thanks for the in depth review!
Not knowing much about the original machine, I must say I prefer the overall feel of the sounds on the RD-9. They sound warmer and more pleasant to me. Unexpected but cool. Thank you!
Great stuff Starsky.909 nuff said!
Love the way your cat is secretly listerning in the background pretending not to care ;)
she's well into it but playing it cool 😁
Is she felix the housecat?
Nice review as always! If an artist can get over the sporadic show-off 909 owner bragging about it, the $350 RD9 will probably do for the audience. Add to that no worries about a 909 disappearing from the stage/back-stage. Anyone experienced stolen instruments, gear during/after a gig?
I had a TR-909 stolen from me in 2001.. after 12 months of dealing with the police doing nothing I just beat the shizz out of the guy on his property when he went to his mailbox.. then I had to pay a lawyer $500 to get out of trouble..
I would do it again.. 👊🤣
@@normdurkin6425 Yea. Me too. And it isn't even *my* gear.
RD-9 just landed on my doorstep last night. I also have a TR-09, which I love. I didn't need the RD-9 but I had access to it, so I figured, why not? How many 909 clones are enough? Criticisms aside, if a musician can make good music, they can do it on any piece of equipment.
The RD 9 has an interesting sound for certain dance songs. I hear echoes of Phil Collins, Enigma, Rhythm is a Dancer, Pump up the Jams and a lot of other mega hits. It sounds very “squirty” or “splashy” at times. It definitely has a stylistic sound.
Check this out… you’re absolutely right! 😀 Classic 909 Patterns on the Behringer RD-9
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On the TR-909 the Snare and Handclap share the same noise source so when you played them simultaneously you were listening to the paralleled filters on the Snare and Clap, this produced a characteristic "phasey" quality. Does the RD-9 replicate this?
when i got up this morning i didn't know i wanted to buy a drum machine today... then i made the mistake of watching this video... oh dear...
Great walk through mate...I think once you stuck it into enhanced mode it got alot closer to a 909 or even the TR 09...especially that kick.
Ah christ !! Somebody borrow our man Starsky an original 909 asap !! If i remember correct the TR-09 doesn't sound as good as the original 909.
Excited about this video regardless !!
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@@StarskyCarr then again, i've just seen there are other 909 comparison videos, so this TR-09 comparison is useful !!
I like hihats of RD-9 much more than in TR-09. In Behringer hihats are smooth, round, "natural". As I care about hi-end no less than about low-end, this is very important to me. While both use samples, RD-9 sounds less like 'a sample' to me than TR-09. I could get RD-9 even just for the hihats :D
Interesting. I thought the 09 sounded much more professional on the hats
Bought one of these after watching this mate. Love your reviews and love how you laugh at yourself when it doesn't quite go to plan. Solid addition to my octatrack to take care of drums instead of using precious octa channels on kicks hats snares etc. One question I do have, is it possible to send pattern change data to it do you know? I'd like to just make a bunch of patterns then have the octa tell it which pattern to play when. Cheers chief ✌️❤️
That demo track at the end is badass.
Starsky and Hutch, your the man. I love your vids. I have a request , if you have time in your insane beat making day, could you explain the method of shifting the timing ( knock the usb midi back and forth) around in logic for perfect syncing? I have the RD-9 and a ton of other synths and drum machines and they never are synced.
It’s a pain tbh… and seems to change as tracks become more/less complex. You’ll be aware of the MIdI synchronisation page in Logic and that you can set delay times for each instrument. It’s literally a case of attempting to balance everything. It’s a pet hate of mine for LPX as it can be hugely frustrating especially when you have a vocalist come in at the end and everything they sing is recorded out of time. I’ve not got to the bottom of it, and why it does it… so I feel your pain!
@@StarskyCarr just for getting back to me, I'm going to be a patron !!! Respect !
Great video. The note repeat should have a 3 setting - I don't need 5,000 rpm but need triplets!
Did you not find the TR-09 harsh at the top end compared to the rd-9?
This was literally the first time I’d put them together.. so I was just listening for similarities. But I prefer the sound of the RD9 overall. triplets would be great. I sed to use them here and there to break up a beat. great ida.
since I watched this video, I recognized two things after two years: 1. The cat matches with the wall. 2. your hair is getting gray in only two years 3. your content quality is consistent high 😎
Haha it’s the stress of consistency
My first 909 I paid 150$ for it probably around 1991. My second I paid 300$ sold them both in the early 2000’s 😫
I’ve got some horror stories too!
A great demo made even more enjoyable because of the gorgeous Bengal cat just chilling on the sofa.
She's a beauty. Her brother died, so she's been hanging around a lot :( so a Savannah kitten has just joined the family who's keeping her more than occupied :)
@@StarskyCarr I’ve got a boy Bengal - Otis. He’s insane and into everything. A Savannah and a Bengal are going to keep you busy!!!
Being able to triggers the sounds on the pads is a big plus over the original as are the mute and solos, big plus.
Nice! You know the NAVA Extra 9? that drum machine is the best 909 copy...
Hi Starsky, great videos on the RD-9, thank you. On my unit, the note repeat function takes it's volume from the last velocity value transmitted from the pattern sequencer for that instrument. So if the pattern alternates it's accents (including global), the volume of the 'Repeat' roll changes as it plays over the top of the pattern's accent changes. Is that normal behaviour? I've only just noticed it and can't tell from your videos. I'm on the latest firmware and version of the SynthTribe app. Cheers!
My online manual. Very useful. Thank you so much!
I received my new RHYTHM DESIGNER RD-9 today from Andertons ..Anyways Upon unboxing mine came with a Euro 2 pin rather than UK 3 Pin PSU So i can not use it at this moment :(
However a quick call to Anderton over the phone where they apologised & said they would send the correct one out to me asap :) ..looking forward to trying my new RD 9
Can't wait for the Behringer Batrix 12!
Good vid. Sounds wicked but my tr-8s does all the Rolands and some for only £200 more than the rd-9. Love behringer though. Got a few of their gadgets. The tb-3 costs pennies and is wicked as fuck
Waiting on my preorder to ship from Sweetwater. I can’t believe this is $329. I’m so excited.
Interesting your bassline is Erasure - Push me, shove me by the amazing Vince Clarke.
Cool.. I’ve not heard it but using just 3 notes I wasn’t pushing any boundaries
Song mode however takes a dump on the Roland. My dream machine would be tr-8s sounds with an mpc workflow.
Thanks for your video! The manual is crap, u helped me out!
thanks for the tutorial brill, can you please tell me how to find the loop function on the rd 9 cheers
I watched this 3 Times...Thanks a lot! One question: The Poly Mode doesnt do anything when Im using it....I Set the lenght, but nothing happens... am I missing something?
Couldn’t tell you tbh. Not without having it in front of me but it sounds like you’ve missed a step.
The Harry Kane of synth reviews at it again!
Haha… now to collect his salary!
Cheers for another great demo.
I’m sold I think…. I’m going to have to get one 🙂 They’ll sort out that tap tempo issue with firmware I’m sure.
Is there any resolution regarding the "Tap" tempo not working? My Rd-9 has the same fault as your review model.
Someone in the comments told me I was using it incorrectly. If you read through you’ll find d it (I’ve forgotten what they said). FYI I bought this it’s not a ‘review unit’ I’ve bought almost every Behringer you see on the channel - others were loaned to me by viewers.
@@StarskyCarr Thank you. Yes I've found the answer in amongst the 288 comments and on relistening I also heard that you'd bought the unit at the end of your video
Thanks for your excellent reviews and tutorials. :-)
What FX processing here for the RD9 kick drum etc?
Can you make a sample pack of the these! i would be ever so greatful, always watching your videos.
Fantastic video, looking to using the triggers on my TD-3-MO
So those drum machine are design for creating 80’s music? Maybe 90’s? Can someone explain me what sort of music can you expect making?
I don't understand why Roland hasn't done this... there is obviously a market for it. And honestly, while I don't have a problem with Behringer, if Roland and Behringer both released remakes, I'd get the Roland one! Even if it was $100 more! But they just keep making digital re-releases... 🤷
Behringer you are friggin’ awesome
Brilliant video! You've helped make the decision in buying one easier and confident
That’s it mate, you’ve hit the nail on the head. Never feel comfortable in shops especially as I know I’m not going to buy it from them.
Brilliant explained also for a german guy who do not speak english as well as you 😛 Thanks a lot for this video!!!
Excellent tutorial, cheers.
Great review. Thank you for this. But the main reason why I didn't buy an RD-8 or will not buy an RD-9 is the convoluted way of the user interface on both of these machines. Give me the simplicity of the old TR-808-909 any day over this.
I have to say this is a lot easier than the TR09 which is the same as the originals. I think it’s been given an overhaul since the initial RD8 release a couple of years ago. I remember that had a few weird implementations here and there.
Huh
hi! it seems that each song can have 16 patterns and each pattern can have several loop bars... but it seems that the song is limited to 16 changes between different patterns... right?
how can you trigger the sounds by hitting the instrument select buttons?
how do you assign voice to trigger out 3? Looking through settings cant find it
Thanks
Mark
I have the TR-8S for all my TR-needs, but this looks and seems really sweet!
i have a tr 6s and the rd-9. The rd-9 sounds slightly better and having the rd allows me to open up the few channels i have on the tr for other exotic drums and sampling =D
So you can't hear the filters or effects on headphones I'm guessing or I have a faulty unit. I'm thinking it probably goes through the main one. Love this machine so far. It's perfect!
That’s right - no fx on headphones out on both RD8 and 9. Shame but at least your unit isn’t broken!
I like your cat!
Hi
I've learned a lot from this video but I can't find out how to play a song I've created or how to restart the song.
Hope you can help .
Thanks Robert
I'm only herre for the cat as usual 🐈 😂
Hi SC, I’m pretty sure the hi-hats on the original TR-909 were analogue and only the crash & ride were digital samples. Love your vids dude.
Thanks. I saw something about the designer recording the hi hats using a hybrid setup with a different upper and lower hats (ie not a matched pair). They were definitely samples though - which is why they’re so hard to recreate.
Happy to lend you my original 909 for a direct 1:1 comparison but, it’s a v1 firmware with none of the revision mods. So, midi timing will be crap and you’ll need a MIDI-DIN Sync converter. I have one if you need that too.
I could always just sample it and use the sounds ….hmmm 😮🤔😀
Is close enough and you can make good Drum Sounds with them.
There will always be arguments over this one about sound quality. That being said if if works for you have at it hoss. I would like one, and very well may get one..
They have just announced a eurorack version that's why I'm watching n listening 🙂
Erg.... we don't care if it sounds like a tr-09, we care if it sounds like a 909 :)
lol I'd bet 90% of the songs you listen to use a DAW or MPC with 909 samples. very few people produce with a 909 anymore. it's not worth the expense and space it consumes for a pretty limited function. everyone I know has switched to the Roland TR-8 or TR-8s, or they just use samples.
@@negativesaucer No doubt but the point of a clone is if it can reproduce the originals sound and workflows.
So the Wave Designer seems to really be kinda of a compressor .
Yeah a bit compressor(ish) but more of a transient shaper - either reducing the initial hit or extending the tail.
I can't get my FX to work on mine. When I follow your instructions, the ON light blinks but the knobs don't affect my sound.
Are you listening it thru the headphone output?
Love the demo track at the end
Thanks
Just bought one. Thanks for this demo 😊
You’re gonna love it.
@@StarskyCarr waiting for the MS1 mk2. Hope that's on your list 😀
@@fantasyproduct1042 I’m going g to try to get my hands on one. I’ve an SH101 here so that should be interesting .
@StarskyCarr exactly the comparison we would love to see. Exciting they're using the original chips. Hope you bag one soon!
1) That BD in enhanced mode is killer.
2) Has anyone actually tested the triggers outs on the RD-9 to see if they trigger Roland +5volt trigger ins on synths because I know they RD-8 trigger outs were rubbish and didn’t.
Personal opinion purely based on my own sound tastes/what sounds better to my ears: TR-09 has the slightly better kick, snares are different but I like them both equally, RD-9 wins for the other sounds. Wish I wasn't so limited on studio space because my heart wants the RD-9, but the TR-09 might be a bit easier to fit into my setup.
...guess it's time to buy more table space for gear 😂
..I disagree.. I have owned a TR-909.. you will never be able to make a digital machine sound analog especially when you run it threw external effects..
@@normdurkin6425 i both agree and disagree with your comment. i think you would struggle to tell the difference on a record mate. if you didnt already know then you could easily be fooled into thinking a digital thing is analog these days. i own a fair bit of analog and digital kit and theres some things that are great sounding digital gear with a warm analog sound. sure less pleasant imperfections with most digital but its still close now. id go as far to say that my elektron analog keys sounds more digital than say my simple casio cz1000. and analog effects can make digital sound analog.. we figured that out a long time ago when we realised a simple analog filter can make a massive difference to a DCO or straight digital osc waveform. i do a few tricks to my machinedrum to make it sound more analog (and the md is really digital sounding) it ends up sounding more analog than my tempest or many other analog drums i own. analog doesnt mean too much anymore its just a tone that can now be replicated . ALSO THE BIGGIE!.. we mostly run our analog gear now into a computer to turn it completely digital. essentially all my analog gear is literally a digital recreation im listening to anyway once its gone through the ADC and DAC. it just becomes a digital emulation anyway 99% of the time when we listen anyway. all the tr909 vids on youtube are literally digital
@@daleadelic ..first of all you have no idea what you are talking about a DCO is not a digital oscillator.. a DCO in a Juno 106 is an digital controlled analog oscillator.. I own a Juno 106 and HS-60.. I also have 4 DCO's in my Prophet 08 rack which has a completely 100% analog signal path.. the only difference between a DCO and an VCO is that a DCO is much more stable.. 2nd I own 25 creates of the hardest hard abstract techno on planet earth.. I was a professional underground DJ from 1996-2001 and worked for the most exclusive underground record store north of NYC.. I have literally listened to over 10K records that was my job buying records from Syntax in New York and Prime in England.. if you actually believe what you are saying then bet me I can't tell the difference.. I guarantee you will loose your money and I will use it to buy more eurorack modules..
@@daleadelic ..that's hilarious your trying to tell me I couldn't tell the difference and you think a DCO is an digital oscillator.. that's obviously means you don't own any.. look up what a DCO is fruitloop.. I own about 18 analog synthesizers with DVO's and about 20 with VCO's.. lol
@@daleadelic ..you need to understand what you have before you start telling me what I know or don't know.. your elektron analog keys has both analog and digital abilities.. there is literally nothing on planet earth that is digital that has a warm analog sound.. don't believe me then let's bet $1k that I can tell the difference when it goes through external effects.. I would be happy to educate you take your money and buy more eurorack modules..
To tap slower tempo just tap, and don't hold, it has to be short tap. :P
really? duh!! :) they should make it easier for the lazy tapper.
That works thank you! :-)
I dream about your tutorial for MFB Tanzbar 2 so I can finally start using full potencial of this machine
Haha.. I'll have to get my hands on one first :)
That would be a very lengthy video, becuase you'll have to explain everyting three times to understand the quircky way of MFB logic.
@@REOvolt I bought it but are insturctions unclear, I even do not know if I can use external midi signal to run paticular drums with midi notes from Ableton.
@@Iwillownyouandbehappy I know. I had one too. I loved the sound, but I didn't like the workflow. In the end, it wasn't worth it.
Can you dump the sequencer data to your DAW
...I guess "TAP" works well until you go slower than 100BPM...seems like the same routine as in the MonoPoly ARP(in "1PPS"mode)
I have had mine for a week now and am VERY frustrated with it. I have tried following the "instructions" that come from the manual with no success. Their "Quick Start" guide is nothing more than a description of each button. The user manual is not very helpful either. I follow along and still cannot make a beat with this. Your video is slightly helpful but you go through it very fast and it's hard to follow. Is there ANY instruction available out there for a person who is just beginning? I feel I've wasted my money on this. HEEELLLPP!
Watch me, and keep on pausing. It’s all in there. It takes a while to get to grips with this stuff, and even I get frustrated with new kit. Stick with it and it’ll click into place at some point. Once you understand the way it works everything falls into place.
@@StarskyCarr Don't be shy Star, do a house call 😁
Don;t ask me why but the RD9 only caught my eye today, as a serious contender for a drum machine. Analog, 9 outs, cool sequencer and then the price.
I am intending in using this for Berlin school, slow it down a ton, also add a P800 for good measure which should go nicely with my existing gear.
As a drum machine, and I have had many, this should work if I process externally?
I intend to go full pan mode with my DAW.
When my RD-9 is connected to ableton via External Instrument and my RD-9 is on step mode, the pattern I play only plays for one loop, but it isn't saved. Any idea why?
you've not got it in record mode by the sounds of things.. there's a bit in the manual about recording everything or just changing stuff for a performance. Can't quite remember the details - but I did the same :)
Brilliant review Starsky. As usual.
brilliant review as always!
Thanks 🙏
Amazing video. I couldn't dig the fx section, but you made it very understandable :-)
And Behringer is coming out with a Linn. Muahahahahah
That, and from the mockups, seems to double as an 8/12-bit sampler!
But how does it sound doing "Take Me Home" or "Vogue?"
completely different
amazing, it helped me a lot. Thanks
Hey, Behringer!
Where's my RD-7 and my RD-MX hmm?
Does the TR09 kick sound better then the RD9?
Some say yes, others no... The RD9 was based on a best-fit approach to 5 different 909s they had while developing it (including 808 State's). Apparently they all had their own particular tone as you'd expect after living different lives for 40 years. For me it undoubtedly gets that 909 character.
Hi, the attack time for the bassdrum does not react to the knob? Does somebody know why?
Are the bugs fixed now ?