SonicLAB: Behringer RD-8 Drum Machine - First Look
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ต.ค. 2024
- Gaz Williams had his hands on an early bird version of the new Behringer RD-8 Rhythm Designer drum machine, an analogue remake of the classic TR-808
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The only reason this exists is because Roland won't make it. I don't feel the slightest bit bad that Behringer saw the demand and moved on it. Roland could have been making these for almost 40 years now and didn't.
The original Roland 808 used defective transistors to generate its unique sound. As the semiconductor industry got better the defective transistors ceased to exist. Of course there are probably ways around it but just thought I would share some history :)
@@LoneWolfDion Behringer has a lot of experience doing defective gear xD
And because of that Roland 808 is so overpriced.
I’d like to see a video where someone compares this agains Roland tr-08, but then also with some sort of analog distortion plugin on the tr-08. The outputs are cool on this but the usb out is super convenient on rolands. I feel like you could run it through something like kazrogs true iron and get close, but I’m speculating.
Roland has said publicly in a documentary that I watched that they never like to do the same thing twice. They would always rather make something new, even if it is not as popular, then put out the same stuff over and over. This is why I feel they did not re-issue and 808 or a 909 until the TR eight came out, with its many improvements in terms of workflow and USB audio streaming.
Thanks guys,my wife walked in on me watching this and said"thats neat,you should get one of those" damn that was an easy one.... hope if that cs80 clone comes out she'll have the same response
It's a either a trick or she bought something...lol
This is by far the best idea Behringer had so far. Look the products that Roland is putting out in the market, with no vision behind it, no new ideas, no inspiration. They can't even hold up to their legacy products. And here comes Behringer to take their legendary 808 to the next step. Shame on Roland, well done Behringer, you got my respect today.
I'm convinced Roland is just a big think tank that takes zero input from customers
It's funny that everyone makes analog equipment these days except for Roland (& Yamaha).
I wish yamaha will do an updated su700
Thats because its been done to "Death"...its a fad!....all Behringer does is copy other companies old stuff!
Roland System-500. Roland SE-O2.
@@justaname1862 well yea its a copy or clone. What ever you wanna call it but can you find a roland tr808 for less than $2000. I don't think so. The rd-8 sounds great for what it is. a price tag of $299 And it has better features than a true tr808. Behringer have really stepped up their game with these drum machines. I can't wait to get my hands on one. Gonna get the rd-9 also. They're coming out close to the end of the year. Should be around late September.
@@Fireblaze15 Well, Studio Electronics made it for them.
This specific pattern at 12:42 is one of the most famous patterns! It's Juan Atkin's, under his Cybotron moniker. This song is called Clear. It's one of the songs credited as a precursor to Detroit Techno. We were listening to this in high school, right before techno was born in Detroit.
-oh, he knows the old school stuff...
SHIT, ITS KENNY LARKIN!
How dope is it to have Kenny Larkin comment🤯
I love the fact it was an Electro classic in the streetsounds electro series also!
The 808 vibe with the "Arturia" workflow? Yes please and thrice on Sunday
Craig_M Arturia spark is beast mode, I gave two sparks and a beatstep!
Behringer has the perfect business plan: Take all the old stuff we love and make it again.
@Boofsquad I think the reason they are good at producing remakes is because behringer were the company who factory produced the originals back in the day, so they had the plans anyway. And the patent has run after 30 40 years. The fact that the originals are so expensive now, I quite favour behringers clone approach now as it gives the next generation a chance to use it without having to be rich to do it.
I'm impressed. Great performance features, nice build, they nailed the sounds. My original 808 is looking at me weird...
😭😭😭
I love that he uses Electro Beats for these videos it's the one reason I want this machine.
It kind of makes me miss the days when Chris Carter was doing gear reviews.
I would love to have a "built like a tank" option for all behringer gear, where you can just pay 20% on top and get tank quality for the knobs, case etc ;-)
Siedepunkt The Neutron is built to last . . .
Yes please
got the d and the neutron and they are "built like a tank"
Tank version baby 🔊
Yeah, there could be limited "Tank" series. I'm in.
I love that fact that these guys are happy like kids, when they interract with any music stuff=))
N-N-N-Nineteen was the first pattern. I had fun programming that when I had an 808 back in the 80's.
12:25 Putting on Gabba techno for background music at Xmas and then being told to rein it in by your dad
"Son! I told you before, cool it with the Aphex Twin while the family is over!!"
The RD Kick turns my monitor into a powerful fan.
If Behringer only did the LinnDrum!!!
Oh just wait for it. They will!
@theinvisibleman Update me please , what more do you know invisible ?
They are making a Lin. Drum it will be out nexonth
OK, sounds great. Now who wants to start a Drexciya tribute band with me?
me
You know what the f you are talking about ;)
Count me in :D
Band name - Wavejumpers
If you where a nice girl Id start a Drexciyan coverband with ya :)
@ 7:52 was "19" by Paul Hardcastle and at 8:08 and 12:30 (nicely timed) was "CLEAR" by Cybotron
marctronixx I think 8:08 was Marvin Gaye sexual healing
@@stalepalemale no sir with all due respect that is cybotron. :)
@@stalepalemale at 8:15 is sexual healing. 😊
I love the enthusiasm from these 2 guys for this machine :)
G.A.S. Williams
When I get one, I wanna take it apart and switch the color scheme back. Might be easy.
Played one back in January at a Behringer event where they had playable 808 (now RD8) SH1, VC340 and odyssey clones. Not really clones, all had modern improvements and some nice extra features. Solid pieces of gear, all sounded good to me. Had a couple of built 909s (probably now BD-9s) there too, full sized, but not playable yet.
Was expecting the Behringer Pro One clone under the grey cloth... great demo!
More outro jams!!!
Roland: "Hey kids, love the shitty 808 workflow but using digital emulation? Awesome! Because that's what made the 808 cool with the kids, right?"
Uli: "I'll just do the opposite of what Roland did and see how that sells... for $300ish dollars. Because I can."
For me the Roland please.
*"whooooo.... aaaahhhhhh.... hhhmmmmmm"*
Sonicstate's Behringer RD-8 review 2019
Quite funny to watch the clash of Nick's mild skepticism with Gaz's enthusiasm.
You Guys should invite the 808 KING: Egyptian Lover on in the next installment to put this thing through the paces and to talk shop.
I love a Gaz review and Nick being there to keep him on task makes it better
i love the sync outs and return loop! wish the RD-9 would be coming first though :)
Me too.. Im more interested in the 909
Or both at the same time to dilute the orders a little bit.
End of the year or early next year
No way anyone could tell the difference between this and a TR when used in a track. Hell I can't hear the difference in this video. Plus MORE functionality. Better /easier programming. Build quality okay. $300 USD!?! Yes thank you. I'll take five.
This is more robust than i realized. And i'm glad they didn't skimp on pattern memory. Really cool. Can't wait until the RD-9!
14:27 “So you can really start to OOH!” ... someone please remix this!! 🔥🔥🔥
brilliant sample hahaha
Loved that bit
"Suck and Pump"
12:22:
“Shall we get smthg a bit more kickin’?”
“Yeh lets get this fill...!!!”
“Nah..”
hahaha brutal
Couldn’t stop cracking up watching these guys together. Please do more duo reviews!
I noticed they changed the hardware name to RD-8. I wonder if that was to avoid legal issues. Sounds good and looks super fun.
Love this review. Couple of guys who genuinely love music and gear. If I could suggest anything it would be slightly change the format of the show and have them in a pub like setting while reviewing the stuff haha. Just make ya want hang out with them.
I love it when Gaz stops by to visit Mr Batt.
You guys are absolute gems and legends. What a delight! I’d watch you guys review anything.
Cybotron - Clear pattern :D
@14.27 min 😍 Thanks guys and thanks behringer, this is a fantasy that went reality 😁 The hats is SICK 😎
"Very soon" in Behringer language means "in a year or so".
But, better to take the time to get it right than rush it and have it turn out not so great. I plan on getting one whenever they're available.
Them results tho!
10:51 Sexual Healing. I'll be happy when its finally available. So I can buy one. Hopefully their 909 will come this year. I want that too
Behringer are basically printing money form themselves. This thing will constantly be out of stock from demand.
And it will now be used in 100,000 new hip hop jams
morenazo952 Consumers won’t care, but the fact that musicians have a new inspiring piece of gear in their physical hands will spawn a new wave of music with 808 sounds
Most modern producers dont even know that those sounds they're using originated from an actual drum machine, they just think '808' is synonymous with 'heavy bass drum'
@@jeevesdfector3686 Jeeves DFector this is true I'm a producer and know the 808 comes from a drum machine but most of the time I forget that it came from a drum machine because I never see the drum machine.Drums just become sounds and names when you use a daw. There is a detachment from the old equipment the sounds originated from.
@@trevor4835 Make your point without being some shitty homophobic edge Lord.
modern hip hop sounds have changed alot
15:42 Filter sweep concentration faces
Zach Ahahahahahaha cracked me up
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Lmao
spot on hilarious
I suddenly got this feeling Behringer is going to make an Electribe !!
A fun one !!
I quite like my electribe 2 sampler tbh. It's limited, but it's very quick and intuitive to program. Combined with a beatstep pro and a single synth, you can get quite complex with it in just a few minutes. I am saving up for an MPC though, so yeah, it's too limited in the end, but still a fun little sampler to play around with.
gladtobeangry Actually the thing about classic Electribes is immediacy and fun: inspiration and getting things done quickly (well, just my opinion)
@@javiceres Well, the modern version doesn't disappoint in that respect. The 32mb RAM is just not enough for what I want to do with it, and the fx are a bit hit and miss. As a sketchpad/drummachine it's very quick, and easy to use. If you want to do more complex atmospheres/phrases/loopbased stuff, you run into limitations quickly.
@@gladtobeangry I see.
The boutique’s outputs over usb feature will NOT WORK 5 years from now!!
Behringer NAILED this.
Explain?
esquilax-Timeless hardware doesn’t rely on computer support. MicroUSB that’s on the Boutiques is on its way out.
@@almightyEsquilax Windows drivers
I agree and that's why I bought the drumbrute impact
I do want some solid information about that !
Just ordered it a week ago and cannot wait for Thomann to finally ship!!!
First thing I am going to do is take it apart to reverse the trigger buttons...
Yeah, that typical punchy sound of the original one is spot on ! Love it !
not even close
@@johnnyv673 hha i know sounds nothing like a real 808
@sonicstate regarding the clap, you're kind of right - it does trigger from power on, but the first couple of times without the reverb part. I only know this because the Yocto 808 clone I built is identical (Voicewise, at least) right down to that odd clap behaviour.
It's time.. it's time to make a modern LinnDrum / LM 1/2
please please please, but not samples of the samples, the actual binaries a'la Vprom, just make it both with swappable "eproms" maybe even throw in Linn 9000 binaries in there too.
Hw vprom, hell yeah!!!
I’m pretty sure Behringer confirmed they were making a LinnDrum reissue.
@@Ancaja123 yeah static samples can't compare with the genius of the Linn. Every hit on it has a slightly different feel and waveform. In a way it was organic
@@HotStrange I don't think they did. a video made it seem like they were but they said that wasn't true. I wonder if the waveforms/binaries are copywritten
Basically, an analog drum starship in a little box. Dag, yo, that's some hot business with probability plus polymetric programming per part to n/64 steps. Basically you can put a whole track into a single pattern that will come out different every time you perform it. If this can send out midi note on/off and such, that alone makes it one of the coolest pattern sequencers for drums available, and definitely the best at this price.
Love to see these fellas geek out. Great stuff as usual.
Really Enjoyed that. Just ordered a mk.ll so was having a research pre delivery!!
This looks great, Ive never seen an 808 in real life but I bought an Akai Tomcat a few years ago and love it so much. Simple drum machines that do just what they say on the tin are my favorites.
Shhh tell no one about the tommy; they're secret weapons. Some serious clang and oomph.
Ive got a mental picture in my head of Nick having Gaz's hair, oh dear haha. gaz is such a lovely bloke he really is.
Incredible chemistry on the screen.Drum machine is impressive tho.
5:16 "The other thing we should say about the clap..." I love how Gaz starts to laugh.
It is good to see that I was not the only one to catch that.
Wish they would do a cr78.
Yes! It had the best analogue drum sounds! Great for the silly stuff I like to make.
Maybe in a few years . . . Keep asking
Cyclone Analogic TT-78
And a LinnDrum
Yes please
This is just the real deal....so good.Behringer is the King of synth marked now,and the next is the: 909,Crave,Arp 2600,CS80 and a load of more to come...its just so great :)
I really like it. They’ve nailed the sound which in my opinion Roland failed to do in any of their boutiques.
I would like to see the sound shaper controls respond to midi cc using pitch bend and mod wheels etc on a synth. That’s all you’d really need. You don’t need full midi cc on any of the voices in my opinion.
For that price I think it would be a worthwhile investment to any studio setup. I want one!
I love this! And I love it even more with the two of you Nick and Gaz! Thanks for devoting so much time to it
cant wait for this! Finally my dreams come true. Behringer will get all my money for the next 2-3 years i guess..
the two guys demonstrating the drum machine here don't look like people from any of the genres of music that liked the 808…………….…………………………………………………………….they look like classic rockers who listen to Foghat……………………………………………………………………………………………..who are these people?
you have a great channel from one Panorama80 lover to another...………………………………………………………………………………..is there a better new wave radio station?
I love Nick and really like to watch him but he starts getting more and more annoying with too many interruptions. He should let people talk more.
so you should stop watching him (as I'll do now)
Nick: That’s what you programmed?
Gaz: yes.
Nick: 😳
I love that thing, i sold mine original a few years ago. I love to make lounge music with only this device and that all thanks to the wave designer and filterm its so fucking awesome. With only this devixe you can get the people move on the dancefloor. Its unbelievable. Best behringer ever made. Fucking hell
the first 3 seconds of this video is all you need to know
"I do like your acid rock"
What did he mean by that
Well, actually the first 20 seconds, just to know that the name changed from RD-808 to RD-8 (probably because of copyrights from Roland, who are too dumb to have proposed a clone of their analog TR-808 machine on their own before Behringer did it).
@@RookieWeedalogist Not sure, but that beat is the outro of Planet Rock
AlainHubert roland tr-08 was first actually
At the end, old man are trippin:-D
Very good review.
Dankeschön!
The hats don't sound spot on but with the filter and wave designer they can sound close enough, all in all the RD-8 sounds like what you would want out of an 808. It's probably going to be sold out for months.
To the people who have been hearing "this old one doesn't sound like the record and the new one sounds like the record" if you have an original 808 the thing is they added compression and saturation and EQ. That's it.
Let’s be honest, Roland will never sell another Boutique 808.
Yeah our boys in the video are talking like there's room for both in the market, and they make like there's still a reason to buy the Boutique with USB audio outs, but if we're honest it's Game Over. On the Behringer you can run your individual outs into real effect pedal or rack gear, and that's the real deal. The most bizarre thing is that Roland themselves could have made a full size analog 808 MKII, and even if it was priced $100 more than the Behringer it would have killed... but they didn't.
Crolodon-Roland no longer has the infrastructure to create analog hardware hence the SE-02 by Studio Electronics. It would involve footwork that frankly aren’t interested in doing.
@@crolodon8024All true, but they beat Behringer to the punch on an 808 recreation and they've already sold all the units they needed to sell.
@@elissitdesign Good point Eric.
Second hand market is going to be blowing up though.
Behringer is coming up with so many amazing things. Bringing back the past......
Yeah, I agree, nice machine! Me also. Behringer! CR-78!
Yes a CR-78, now!!
No Name I read they might make it in the same chassis as the RD6...which for me is kinda a let down because the cr78 box look was always appealing to me
Honestly the transient shaper is like having a boss CS-3 after a regular tr-808 -- a welcome enhancement/addition in my opinion.
How could you not want one of these, its crazy to know we could get this for a under $400 and make great music. I'm so convinced complainers don't make music.
Love Gaz's Swap Shop tee. The guy is a legend. Oh dear! Just when I thought I'd finished with drums after buying an Arturia drum brute impact and a volca drums seems like I haven't.
You can never have enough drum machines 😆
We are such abject suckers 8)
Swapshop - tried to ring up Noel Edmonds to swap my Boutique for the RD-8 - no answer! Bastard......
01 811 8055
[Edit] aaaah... I just realised Gaz's t-shirt. Nice. I did remember the number though! Why is it I can remember shite like swap shop's phone number and not where I parked the car!
@@simonedmondson7633 🤣🤣😂
Funny how that number is forever imprinted in our subconscious after 35 years..
got me a RD-8, great machine, thanks guys :)
8:00 "guess the pattern" Paul Hardcastle - 19 and then Cybotron Jaun Atkins - Clear
Then Marvin Gaye - Sexual Healing
Both fantastic tunes .
I'M FED UP WITH THE WAIT ALREADY ! WAKE ME UP WHEN BEHRINGER START TO DISTRIBUTE THEM
they're stock piling the shit out of these things
love gaz what a cheerful bloke!
Very nice and presentation showing sound and features, thanks! This will be a hit.
Honest to God I still love my Roland TR-8
Sure, why not. Sounds fantastic, and it's a great modern take on a performance drum machine.
@@st0rmchild i just got the Roland Fantom 6 and it is also pretty good but the TR-8 still has better kick in my opinion unless there is a way to turn up decay on the Fantom
Great deep dive, guys. Thanks for studying up for this demo. Well done.
Hurray!!!! At last...love the way Gaz as a very laid back peaceful person...is still super protective over it...no Nick..its still my go😂🍻🍻🙌Oh good days are hear! (yes spelt correct in this case😝) lots of 40 plus people SUPER excited lol.. PARTY!!!...great jam at end ...ENJOY!
20:19 In the new 2.0.2 update this feature has been removed!! @Gaz Williams please get em to add it back!
Nice name change to keep Roland happy. Would like to see a 606.
Im waiting for that too;)
Really amazed at how deep it is. I hope people start modding them to allow for further modification of the voices.
waiting for Behringer version of the LM-1
Behringer is my new hero. Never would have guessed that 10 years ago. I’m glad they did it instead of Roland. Behringer priced it generously.
when nick started dancing to the beat 😂
"Ludicrous" patterns sound great to me (and one of these guys seems much more excited!). They are both having fun, tho.
Is that the phone number for swap shop ?
He's just showing Noel how to grow a proper beard HAHA.
Swap Shop in FL?
EightySix no , old Saturday morning tv show in uk , 80’s.
wayne billingham definitely Swap Shops number 😂
The essence for me is analogue clock so even a 4 on the floor kick has intrinsic "swing" compared to 0's and 1's clock.
Got mine ordered 👍🏻 (Finally). Expected shipping date November 2019
Keep up .... beat you to it! Wonder if mine will be S/N 000001 ? Yours Thomann too? i.e first stock, air freighted in to Europe - end Sept ..! 😎🍻👍
That was great. Loving your passion, Gaz!
One correction: The original TR-808 also has 3 trigger outputs, that you can program individually. So it's actually not an extra option from the RD-8.
Ah maybe when compared to the TR-08 then?
Yeah, I believe that's correct.
I need to set up my 4th wall which is going to end up covered in behringer gear.
A tunable 808 kick!? I'm sold.
First pattern was 19 Paul Hardcastle?
You know this is a winner at 15:52 when Nick and Gaz both go "ooohh!"
deep enough dive to begin with... like how they really focused on the capabilities and native sounds of the unit