The best saturation part is right at the end. If you want to hear the RD9 in full analog saturation mode go to this section of the video th-cam.com/video/Pa1-KfQVsDE/w-d-xo.html
Hi Chris! Thanks for the very informative video! I agree...i always turn the high frequencies a bit down on my mixing desk with the RD9 (TD3 and MS1 too). For me its a keeper, i write different patterns with the rd9 sequencer than using a mouse...more fun. Nice you showed us this thing in context of a realworld production too! very good video, greetings
It worked brilliantly to cover a fully analogue setup writing and mixing or a hybrid system or all in the box. My setup isn't like that now - not because I didn't like it, but more of a space issue. I will set up a system like that again because it was by far the most versatile..
Great video. Definitely sounded great. It must be nice to walk into a store and find one. We hear in the US have yet to even get one in a store. Behringer has to change the way it distributes its products. It should have worldwide release on the same day for everyone. Other than that. Thanks for the video.
Hello Chris! I am a huge fan of your early works (Stonemaker - 9000 Miles Remix, Dusted pink, 3M5, Bullet Point....). I was very happy when I accidently bumped into your Bandcamp page and realized you are still active! Question: Is it possible to swap out the mike-e compressor in your chain to a different one, whitout sacrifising the sound properties of the 909 processed sound? If it is possible to swap it out, which vst compressor would you use? I have lot of Waves and Plugin allice compressors... Also can you please tell me what is the purpose of the RX950 emulation? To add convertion artifacts?
Hi, Daniel thanks for the kind words. much appreciated :) Use any compressor you like. The one I was using wasn't doing much and really, I could have used any compressor for this. The Air Windows Mackie 1604 emulator plugin was probably doing more to the sound than the Compressor. In regards to the RX950 filter plugin. I tend to use it on the RD9 to take a bit of the toppyness off the sound as the RD9 in general has a hifi sheen to it. The biggest difference to the RD9 sound in this video sound is the very last section of the video which utilises the analog mixer to add a good amount of saturation/Distortion to the RD9. th-cam.com/video/Pa1-KfQVsDE/w-d-xo.html I find the RD9 requires more work to fit in the mix than an original 909 probably due to the HIFI sheen and general difference in the sound over an original. Cheers 😎
I watched the vid a number of times on my TV and thought I was missing something because I couldn't read the notes you were making along the way at the bottom of the screen... but now I can read them on my PC. The process of: "rd9 independent outs TO interface ins, (Mackie processing) TO interface outs TO mixer ins and then back TO audio interface ins" is impracticable with my set up, (I only have 4 analogue ins and 2 on my audio interface are consumed by my analogue mixer... a council estate Yamaha MG12XU incidentally.) I downloaded the Mackity64 thing, (which is very, very clever) but would it be counterproductive to run: RD9 into mixer hot and then record have Mackity on the incoming stereo channel? Will that just be not as good as your method or will it sound awful?
I really like the snare sound from 13:33 on. So that´s only external mixer saturation and EQing? Or is there a dedicated compressor involved? Great video :-) I still love my 909 to death tho ❤️🔥
@MOOTANT hi there. Nice video! you seem to be able to have the audio of each instrument of the rd 9 on its own track in ableton. how is that possible while using the main output of the rd9? cheers!
Any tips on connecting the RD 9 to your DAW? I just got mine and plan on using it for my productions. I have TRS cables and an interface of course but in order to get the sounds on separate tracks do I have to use the individual outs or should I use the MIDI output. I'm still new to hardware
You need to use individual outs connected to an interface with multiple inputs. Midi doesn't transmit audio. You will be unlikely to use the midi out. Just connect the USB for midi.
Thank you Chris. Is it usual, to route hardware signals first in the soundcard to get it in computer (like you did) and then from there to analog mixer, and from there back to computer ?
@@MRcyclon1 It can be done any way you like. I have all the hardware outs connected to the soundcards inputs. Those sources are brought into individual DAW channels which I can record, process and mix. However, I can send those channels out to the analog mixer from the soundcard outs and still add processing plugins to those channels. That is what I did in this video at the end to get the mixer saturation on the RD9. It is very flexible.
@@MOOTANT1 Thank you Chris, I understand you. I was just thinking it would be better to route hardware individual first to mixer an then from there to computer. BR Jani
Great video :) How did you connect the RD-9 to the computer? USB midi? I have mine synced to my DAW's clock (sync mode set to USB), and it starts/stops using my DAW's controls, but it doesn't seem to play midi notes that way. It plays the pattern that's currently loaded.. I'm sure I'm doing something wrong but I can't figure out what it is .. any ideas?
If you don't want to use Clock, and want to trigger MIDI notes on your RD-9 over USB from you DAW instead. Set SYNC to INT, to select what USB MIDI Channel you want to use: press SETTINGS, then press the 2/USB button, using the DATA dial you can then select from MIDI Channels 1 - 16.
Im more impressed with your track because its a Banger!!! Where is acapella from if u dont mind... Will you relise this track? Rd sounds good but only after going thru compressor and analogue desk like you demonstrated!
Can anyone answer what is the advantage of recording the individual ins AND the stereo out of the mixer? Why not just the stereo out of the mixer? Is it maybe just a workflow thing so you can leave the RD9 Plugged into those inputs and then route any instrument you want to the mixer for the saturation? i.e. you never have to redo your cables? This seems to be the pro way, so trying to understand :)
Love this!! Sounds pretty good to me,a mate told me i should have paid extra and bought Roland TR8s, Have you any videos on sidechaining the rd9 with Ableton, ? I am very new to Ableton. Cheers
Hey Andrew, I don't have such a video but you wouldn't side chain the RD9 to Ableton. You would side chain a bass line or pads, (or whatever) using a compressor or volume plugin triggered by the RD9's kick drum. For a really easy side chain solution maybe check out Xfer Lfo Tool plugin. It doesn't require a trigger and is very easy to use. Alternatively, just use Ableton Compressor and assign any kick drum source to trigger the side chain.
@@MOOTANT1 no worries, gotcha , thats why my t8 has the side chain option as it has a built in 303, will have a looksky at that vid. Thanks for the reply .
Hi Chris, how are you getting each sound on its own channel input in your DAW? Are you using the MIDI function? Just got mine RD-9 and am trying to learn how to use it with FL Studio.
Hi Luke, I have 24 inputs on my soundcard for directly connecting hardware outputs. Then just a case of adding tracks in the DAW and setting the inputs.
I tried increasing the gains on my analog 90s Yamaha mixer but I need to keep the faders very low down otherwise the master goes into the red. I’ve always kept the master at the top and never touch it. Do you keep your master really low?
Yes you do need to keep the master fader lower when boosting individual channel gains to avoid overloading the stereo buss. But in saying that overloading the stereo master buss can be a desireable effect to depending on the mixer. Some do it well, others not so good. What you hear from your mixer is what you want to capture (if you like what you hear). 😉
@@MOOTANT1 that makes sense. I don’t like mixing with the channels right down because they are stupid logarithmic and just isn’t enough precision right down the bottom. I assume my master low and keep it peaking (too much) and that’s me ready to record for mastering.
thanks for such a good dive into the sound :) enjoyed seeing the difference in dynamics after processing. Also what mixer are you using for this ? thanks again :)
Where did you find your available RD-9? I’ve been on a waiting list for months. Just received another email from Andertons informing me it will be delayed again until late October. Was meant to receive mine early August! So frustrating.
Same here !! I understood I was within the first 5 orders they'd received for the RD-9 (literally the moment they went on sale) but now been told Oct22nd. Getting a bit bored now tbh and not sure I'm all that bothered about getting one now ;-)
Id say that's the actual reality of these replicas. they get us the sound but even with the original, it was very manipulated by post processing. i noticed that with my real 808 and rd8. yes there are some sonic differences but bare bones they need work to get that banging sound
I’m having super trouble with my rd 9… my rd 9 is throwing midi notes in the synth and I don’t know how to turn that setting off or to stop throwing algorithms in the synth from the rd 9.. in need of big help with this
Triggered by Ableton midi (not midi clock, just actual notes in an Ableton Clip I used to use an expert sleepers box to give me sample accurate mdi. I don't use it now. Midi from a Mac/PC is excellent these days.
seems bizarre not to use the 909’s sequencer. whole point is to interact with it. also use 6db/oct lowpass filter at 7k to make it sound older. one part the rd-9 left out of the circuit.
@@alandunphy6746 You can use Ext instrument but in this Im just sending midi to the RD9 and its drum outputs going in to my sound card and monitored live via Ableton channels.
The best saturation part is right at the end. If you want to hear the RD9 in full analog saturation mode go to this section of the video th-cam.com/video/Pa1-KfQVsDE/w-d-xo.html
Finally a proper drum machine demo used the way its supposed to be used. MOOTANT separating the men from the boys.
Best RD9 demo on the internet. No BS just revealing how the machine sounds in the tune.This was very revealing 👽👾💯
Just the type of review I needed to see. No acid lines, no OTT patterns and the tune at the end is awesome.
Best rd9 video on TH-cam. We all want to hear it processed and in the mix.
13:44 saturated rhythm sounds great.
Thanks for this video
Hi Chris! Thanks for the very informative video! I agree...i always turn the high frequencies a bit down on my mixing desk with the RD9 (TD3 and MS1 too). For me its a keeper, i write different patterns with the rd9 sequencer than using a mouse...more fun. Nice you showed us this thing in context of a realworld production too! very good video, greetings
It seems behringers 'sound' of some of their gear has a top end sheen to it. I have noticed that with their TD3.
Excellent. Best video on how to process a RD9! Thanks for sharing.
It took me a while to get my head around the routing here, but thanks so much for uploading and sharing.
It worked brilliantly to cover a fully analogue setup writing and mixing or a hybrid system or all in the box. My setup isn't like that now - not because I didn't like it, but more of a space issue. I will set up a system like that again because it was by far the most versatile..
the KUSH audio Omega N (Neve style preamp) is perfect on the clap! i use it to reduce that hifi highend and it does a perfect job! :)
Say your prayers, Roland. This is how you re-release an analog drum machine. Not with samples of a TR-909.
This is sampled from Roland😂
@@SirBorkBork no it isn't
Great video. Definitely sounded great. It must be nice to walk into a store and find one. We hear in the US have yet to even get one in a store. Behringer has to change the way it distributes its products. It should have worldwide release on the same day for everyone. Other than that. Thanks for the video.
Very very good video!! Excellent! Thank you so much!
great video! Makes me want one so bad, you know how to make it rock :)
Finally, someone who actually makes music. Thank you for this, very useful.
it looks, smells and sounds like a 909 and that's why we bought it, right? :D Great deno btw, I love the rithms!
Outro track sounds awesome
Great review. Thanks for sharing!
Hello Chris! I am a huge fan of your early works (Stonemaker - 9000 Miles Remix, Dusted pink, 3M5, Bullet Point....). I was very happy when I accidently bumped into your Bandcamp page and realized you are still active!
Question: Is it possible to swap out the mike-e compressor in your chain to a different one, whitout sacrifising the sound properties of the 909 processed sound? If it is possible to swap it out, which vst compressor would you use? I have lot of Waves and Plugin allice compressors...
Also can you please tell me what is the purpose of the RX950 emulation? To add convertion artifacts?
Hi, Daniel thanks for the kind words. much appreciated :)
Use any compressor you like. The one I was using wasn't doing much and really, I could have used any compressor for this. The Air Windows Mackie 1604 emulator plugin was probably doing more to the sound than the Compressor.
In regards to the RX950 filter plugin. I tend to use it on the RD9 to take a bit of the toppyness off the sound as the RD9 in general has a hifi sheen to it. The biggest difference to the RD9 sound in this video sound is the very last section of the video which utilises the analog mixer to add a good amount of saturation/Distortion to the RD9. th-cam.com/video/Pa1-KfQVsDE/w-d-xo.html
I find the RD9 requires more work to fit in the mix than an original 909 probably due to the HIFI sheen and general difference in the sound over an original.
Cheers 😎
@@MOOTANT1 Thanks soo much! Just found you on Instagram, will drop you a DM :) Have a nice day!
Miss your videos mate
I keep telling my self to do more videos - I will ponder 😉
awesome vid
Great video man
Make a LANDLORD tune with it!!
I watched the vid a number of times on my TV and thought I was missing something because I couldn't read the notes you were making along the way at the bottom of the screen... but now I can read them on my PC. The process of: "rd9 independent outs TO interface ins, (Mackie processing) TO interface outs TO mixer ins and then back TO audio interface ins" is impracticable with my set up, (I only have 4 analogue ins and 2 on my audio interface are consumed by my analogue mixer... a council estate Yamaha MG12XU incidentally.) I downloaded the Mackity64 thing, (which is very, very clever) but would it be counterproductive to run: RD9 into mixer hot and then record have Mackity on the incoming stereo channel? Will that just be not as good as your method or will it sound awful?
Thanx à lot super explanations
Great :)
It is possible to change value of each elements directly from Ableton ? (Kick decay, tune etc.)
I really like the snare sound from 13:33 on. So that´s only external mixer saturation and EQing? Or is there a dedicated compressor involved? Great video :-) I still love my 909 to death tho ❤️🔥
@MOOTANT hi there. Nice video! you seem to be able to have the audio of each instrument of the rd 9 on its own track in ableton. how is that possible while using the main output of the rd9? cheers!
I am using seperate outs from the RD9.
@@MOOTANT1 right, thanks for the answer. I didn't see any jacks coming out the individual outs, that's why I was wondering.
Any tips on connecting the RD 9 to your DAW? I just got mine and plan on using it for my productions. I have TRS cables and an interface of course but in order to get the sounds on separate tracks do I have to use the individual outs or should I use the MIDI output. I'm still new to hardware
You need to use individual outs connected to an interface with multiple inputs. Midi doesn't transmit audio. You will be unlikely to use the midi out. Just connect the USB for midi.
Thanks, very informative video. May I ask you, which soundcard did you use for this project ?
I use a PreSonus Quantum and a Ferrifish Pulse 16.
Thank you Chris. Is it usual, to route hardware signals first in the soundcard to get it in computer (like you did) and then from there to analog mixer, and from there back to computer ?
@@MRcyclon1 It can be done any way you like.
I have all the hardware outs connected to the soundcards inputs. Those sources are brought into individual DAW channels which I can record, process and mix. However, I can send those channels out to the analog mixer from the soundcard outs and still add processing plugins to those channels. That is what I did in this video at the end to get the mixer saturation on the RD9.
It is very flexible.
@@MOOTANT1 Thank you Chris, I understand you. I was just thinking it would be better to route hardware individual first to mixer an then from there to computer. BR Jani
Anyone got any good recommendations as to where to buy a Ms-1-BK or 101 ?
thanks :)
Great video :) How did you connect the RD-9 to the computer? USB midi? I have mine synced to my DAW's clock (sync mode set to USB), and it starts/stops using my DAW's controls, but it doesn't seem to play midi notes that way. It plays the pattern that's currently loaded.. I'm sure I'm doing something wrong but I can't figure out what it is .. any ideas?
If you don't want to use Clock, and want to trigger MIDI notes on your RD-9 over USB from you DAW instead. Set SYNC to INT, to select what USB MIDI Channel you want to use: press SETTINGS, then press the 2/USB button, using the DATA dial you can then select from MIDI Channels 1 - 16.
Im more impressed with your track because its a Banger!!! Where is acapella from if u dont mind... Will you relise this track? Rd sounds good but only after going thru compressor and analogue desk like you demonstrated!
Thanks Jovan:). I cant recall where I got the vocal. I think I sampled it from a TH-cam video. The track at the end of the video will be released.
Can anyone answer what is the advantage of recording the individual ins AND the stereo out of the mixer? Why not just the stereo out of the mixer? Is it maybe just a workflow thing so you can leave the RD9 Plugged into those inputs and then route any instrument you want to the mixer for the saturation? i.e. you never have to redo your cables?
This seems to be the pro way, so trying to understand :)
Love this!! Sounds pretty good to me,a mate told me i should have paid extra and bought Roland TR8s, Have you any videos on sidechaining the rd9 with Ableton, ? I am very new to Ableton.
Cheers
Hey Andrew, I don't have such a video but you wouldn't side chain the RD9 to Ableton. You would side chain a bass line or pads, (or whatever) using a compressor or volume plugin triggered by the RD9's kick drum. For a really easy side chain solution maybe check out Xfer Lfo Tool plugin. It doesn't require a trigger and is very easy to use. Alternatively, just use Ableton Compressor and assign any kick drum source to trigger the side chain.
@@MOOTANT1 no worries, gotcha , thats why my t8 has the side chain option as it has a built in 303, will have a looksky at that vid.
Thanks for the reply .
Hi Chris, how are you getting each sound on its own channel input in your DAW? Are you using the MIDI function? Just got mine RD-9 and am trying to learn how to use it with FL Studio.
Hi Luke,
I have 24 inputs on my soundcard for directly connecting hardware outputs. Then just a case of adding tracks in the DAW and setting the inputs.
I tried increasing the gains on my analog 90s Yamaha mixer but I need to keep the faders very low down otherwise the master goes into the red. I’ve always kept the master at the top and never touch it. Do you keep your master really low?
Yes you do need to keep the master fader lower when boosting individual channel gains to avoid overloading the stereo buss. But in saying that overloading the stereo master buss can be a desireable effect to depending on the mixer. Some do it well, others not so good. What you hear from your mixer is what you want to capture (if you like what you hear). 😉
@@MOOTANT1 that makes sense. I don’t like mixing with the channels right down because they are stupid logarithmic and just isn’t enough precision right down the bottom. I assume my master low and keep it peaking (too much) and that’s me ready to record for mastering.
Turn your gain down on your mixer drum channel strip. Then you can bring your volume up.
@@ultrajayme The point of this exercise is to turn the gains UP
thanks for such a good dive into the sound :) enjoyed seeing the difference in dynamics after processing. Also what mixer are you using for this ?
thanks again :)
Its a yamaha
What kind of analog mixer do you have?
Where did you find your available RD-9? I’ve been on a waiting list for months. Just received another email from Andertons informing me it will be delayed again until late October. Was meant to receive mine early August!
So frustrating.
I got lucky as I stumbled on to a store which had one X demo unit left. I think it was gear 4 music
Same here !! I understood I was within the first 5 orders they'd received for the RD-9 (literally the moment they went on sale) but now been told Oct22nd. Getting a bit bored now tbh and not sure I'm all that bothered about getting one now ;-)
@@iixorb 4 years ago they announced the RD9 so its been a considerable wait. But hang in there, not long to go now.
Roland had it so easy and still failed! Long live Behringer! Thank you
Yeah this is the business
so what are the differences that a tr 909 user will notice?
Id say that's the actual reality of these replicas. they get us the sound but even with the original, it was very manipulated by post processing. i noticed that with my real 808 and rd8. yes there are some sonic differences but bare bones they need work to get that banging sound
Dig your Sound!
I’m having super trouble with my rd 9… my rd 9 is throwing midi notes in the synth and I don’t know how to turn that setting off or to stop throwing algorithms in the synth from the rd 9.. in need of big help with this
What are too trying to accomplish by sending midi from your drum machine to your synth? What synth?
What audio interface are you using ?
So is the midi triggering the rd 9 at 2:00 minutes beginning of the video?? Thanks for the demo
Triggered by Ableton midi (not midi clock, just actual notes in an Ableton Clip
I used to use an expert sleepers box to give me sample accurate mdi. I don't use it now. Midi from a Mac/PC is excellent these days.
seems bizarre not to use the 909’s sequencer. whole point is to interact with it.
also use 6db/oct lowpass filter at 7k to make it sound older. one part the rd-9 left out of the circuit.
You work however you find yourself most comfortable
What if you had a side bus in an FX channel and ran a preamp into it and ran it into your drum channels
this makes me realize how much us producers are being cheating with these "sample packs"... this sounds good DRY..
The dry kick drum of the RD9 does not do the trick for me, but you improved it vastly through processing.
:)
Great demo fella, how is this set up I’m ableton? Are u using usb midi
Yes just standard USB midi. No probs at all
@@MOOTANT1 do you have to use the External Instrument device on a midi track or is there another way?
@@alandunphy6746 You can use Ext instrument but in this Im just sending midi to the RD9 and its drum outputs going in to my sound card and monitored live via Ableton channels.
what is that bassline that is very shameful