Why these Spanish cities are not protected by NATO
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ส.ค. 2024
- The Spanish cities of Ceuta and Melilla are not under NATO protection. So, should Morocco decide to invade these cities, Spain would legally be on its own. But why is that?
Well, Article 5 of the NATO treaty, which declares an attack on a NATO member an attack on all members, is only triggered if an attack takes place in Europe, North America, Turkey, or islands under the jurisdiction of a member in the Atlantic, north of the Tropic of Cancer, for example, the Portuguese island Madeira.
However, since Ceuta and Melilla are not in Europe and not islands, they are not protected by Article 5.
Wich means Brazil could also attack France and it would be on it's own.
That would be almost impossible
@@JohnJohn-bz1lq they can take french Guyana tho
Yes but since French Guyana has the ESA stationed there it would be doomed.
Brazil would be able to easily take French Guyana.
The problem would be to keep it.
@@laf1993 France has a bigger army and technology and everything than Brazil, Brazil has a HUGE rainforest blocking it from having any decent amount of population or development in the area so Brazil would not be able to hold it since France would arrive faster than Brazil could invade it, and French Guiana has a big enough army to defend itself.
On the NATO convention in Madrid, they talked about that and said that Ceuta and Melilla would also be protected by NATO
The nato empire could probably defeat the rest of the world combined in a war.
@@europaaugust9598 No it wouldnt lmao. You dont even have the numbers to do that. Russia has double the amount of personel than the US talk less of China, India, North Korea etc.
@@classicroma5609 Russia is literally losing to fucking broke Ukrainiana
@@classicroma5609 personel that arent well equipped or supplies is useless
@@classicroma5609 and every single soldier is useless when left on their own. Wonder what happens when you kill their commanders…
Hey Ferb I know what we're gonna do today
This guy is crazy
@Adolf Hitler so you didnt learn the lesson of the north african campaign
Since the last NATO meeting every territory of a country that is part of NATO will be defended
@Adolf Hitler ja mein Fürher
Also where is perry ?
Morocco: Takes back Ceuta and Mellilia.
The Moroccan migrants who went there for a better life: 😐😑😔
" Takes back " they have been Spanish for centuries and their people are Spanish. Also, Ceuta and Melilla's border with Morocco was closed up until May this year which means that the chances of there being any e " Moroccan migrants who went there for a better life " are very small.
@@mastilozdravljedamjanovic true
@@mastilozdravljedamjanovic Yes they are legally Spanish territory, but the reason for this is because of a treaty where the Spanish tricked a child who was a leader to give territory in an exchange of luxury items, and since kids are naive, he did accept it and the treaty was signed.
@@wurok871 you may have been mislead. when Hispania was part of the muslim world, Ceuta and Melilla were already associated to it and its local governor governed them.
If you trust wikipedia, which is peer reviewed so I do, here you can find an article about Ceuta (es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historia_de_Ceuta)
@@mastilozdravljedamjanovic Wrong 🙂
You mentioned this once when Argentina invaded the Falkland Islands. Either way Morocco invading these two cities is unlikely as they get huge investments from both Spain and the EU. Them invading Spanish territory might not result in a counterattack by NATO/EU but they'll most likely reduce or even cut their relationship with Morocco.
No its not Spain Territory but Morocco Territory
@@ramirami5466 it's spanish, deal with it
@@ramirami5466 keep crying
@@ramirami5466 If that's the case why don't you just walk through it without passing any wall or fence?
@@JoRdi-ul4xg it’s Moroccan you clown, the land is literally on the African continent, this isn’t the year 1500 where colonialism is allowed
The loop is so perfect that when I looked away for 1 second I didn't know it looped
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Orgullo mexicano 🐒💪🏿
Nah
Not really, i actually kind of hate loops lol
Fun fact : Spain pays Morocco to safeguard the enclave borders from illegal migration
And morocco uses This to destabilise spain
@@aym.s5827 ofc we gonna destabilize your ass if you seek to create problems for us
Morocco is not doing good job. Spain should seek a reimbursement.
Actually, it's the Eu that pays Morocco to guard the borders, but since that money goes through Spain, they steal as much as they want and only give a small friction of it to Morocco.
@@tatbhar7304 Cool story, bro...
If Spain builds a canal around the islands it would technically count as an island, therefore it will have NATO protection lol
Nope, as it still wouldn't be in the Atlantic. But also, this clerical stuff doesn't really matter anyway since the EU mutual defense clause would draw the rest of the EU in, most likely followed by the rest of NATO anyway.
The fun thing is that part of the old city of Ceuta is in an island so they would have to protect it (I know this is just a tecnicism and Ceuta is protetected by the EU anyway, but is funny to think about it)
Saying that EU would support Spain is much saying. I bet a few grands that France would support Morocco
@@BlitzSchlag I'll take that bet. Easy money from a fool.
@@Hudute we'll see who's the fool when the time comes ;)
The NATO meeting this summer in madrid said that Ceuta y Melilla is spanish territory and with that, they will defend it in case of attack, and its the same with the rest of territories of the other members of the NATO outside of the europe continent.
Egypt is like what the heck did I do
Nato: not an island or in Europe
Spain: not islands YET
Or in Europe yet
"hey Abdullah, i know what we're gonna do today."
Better version
Go get a job to Spain 🤣🇪🇸
"Hey charlie , we should thank Morocco everyday for protecting us from a Subsaharan invasion "
LMAO morocco is not match for spain.
@@goldenwolf3325 you mean besides the money? 🤣
Spain: *forms an alliance with other spanish-speaking countries to stop Morocco from taking Ceuta and melilla*
Bueno sería para apoyar a los Saharauis
Spain can handle morocco by its own
😂😂 thats how scared they are
@@peanuts4088 Spain cant even handle the fact that it exists. Bruh be realistic spanish army was massacred by Mountaineers with muskets and donkeys you Think they would stand a chance against a modern technologically superior determined strategically winning morocco armed to the teeth?? 😂
@@aym.s5827 at least we dont use our own citizens as hostages to conquer territories ;) wink* wink*
So Argentina could try again?
Yeah
First argentina needs money
And they would lose again 😂
Argentina has a lot of problems already and is generally a poor country so they would lose against the UK
@@SoundWxve_ An monarch king phillip and monarch morocco alliance Will prevail again
British also had plan to attack French when french lost Morocco back then
This plan is possible
Españoles nunca solos, siempre habrá alguien a tu lado 🤝🇮🇹
Yes🇪🇺🇪🇺🇪🇺
Thank you Spanish state of Napoli!
Spain wouldn't be on its own due to being a part of the EU. Same with Brazil / France.
Cool video!
TH-camrs leaving generic comments to get pinned and advertise their own channels be like 🗿
@@dresdi he literally just said its a good video dummy
@@WitchVillager yeah thats the whole point
@@dresdi 🤔 I just liked the video lol
hi
Egyptians be like "wow wow bro"
Me as half Egyptian was like wow
xd, I was like tf would we attack Europe 💀💀
What Egyptians? They are all dead and gone.
@@The-ZebraFinch-Channel 😂😂😂
@@atirkey7484
Lay off the drugs
However the EU would protect Spain as laid out in the Lisbon Treaty, Article 42.7:
If a Member State is the victim of armed aggression on its territory,
the other Member States shall have towards it an obligation of aid and
assistance by all the means in their power, in accordance with Article
51 of the United Nations Charter. This shall not prejudice the specific
character of the security and defence policy of certain Member States.
Exactly.
ME : laughs with arabic
@@themorrocoballofficials Yes and that's why Arabs still live like it's 700AD and not in the year 2022.
@@themorrocoballofficials sad and deluded
The EU can't even protect itself (talking as an EU citizen). If you want protection NATO is the place to be.
Spain wouldn't be on his own because the EU has a sort of "article 5", so in case of an attack Spain could activate that treaty.
Him: an attack on a nato member means attack on all members
Me seeing egypt my country getting 10 v 1'd:
It may not be protected under Art 5 NATO but it would be under Art 42 Sec 7 TEU. So Morocco would have a fun time with all of the EU coming to aid Spain...
Exactly. People forgot the EU has the same defense policy for all its members and any territories owned by an EU member anywhere in the world.
@@XR190190 The EU defense policy its a lot more vague, it's leagues away from something like NATO with much clearer conditions, guidelines to act and structure about how the actual cooperation would work. It would still be a bad ideó for Morocco to invade, but it's not as one sided. I don't think you can expect a lot of Europe to commit to war over 2 small Spanish territories in Africa. Also, Morocco has pretty good relations with USA, wich is not insignificant.
Still, there's many other reasons that make invading not an easy choice, like Morocco being busy (for now) triying to stabilize former Spanish Sahara as their own ( Spain recently has shifted their stance and decided to show support for this) despite resistance from the people living there (those that didn't come from Morocco at least) and Argel, their bitter rival and another important nation in the area.
There are also valuable economic ties that could be lost (Spain itself being an obvious one) , and the Spanish army may be underfunded and unprepared like many in the EU (with exceptions like France and the UK) but could still put up a fight and the conflict could scalate far more than its worth, taking 2 cities in Africa its one thing but if the Spanish decide to counter attack and Morocco have to take land in the Iberian peninsula to make them surrender that would be quite more difficult.
It could happen, who knows. But if they try something it's more likely to be a "Grey area" kind of thing, like the Green march that they did in the Sáhara, where basically thousands of moroccon civilians marched and settled in saharan territory. They could flood Ceuta and Melilla with migrants and try to get influence over time so the territories secede to Morocco peacefully.
@@TheAleatoriorandom Have you read the treaty? The TEU is way more strict than the NATO treaty.
@@popelgruner595 I don't agree there. In NATO article 5 says that an attack on an ally is considered an attack against all and that each member will assist the party as needed including military action.
With the EU mutual defense it says that if a member suffer an armed aggression the other members have an obligation to "assist by all means in their power". That could be seen as more strict, but it's problematically vague, it makes no explicit mention of going to war or to consider the aggression to the other member as an act of war towards yourself, it says you gotta help as best you can. I can totally see many countries in Europe saying that the best they can it's sending aid but no actual troops.
Also, NATO its an actual military organization. It has proper protocols, active troops, military structures and expectations of what should happen if article 5 going into action. And I think that makes a big difference.
The EU on the other hand its mostly about economy and politics, most members are also NATO members and put their defense plans on that boat. There's no proper EU army or structure although plans have been made and talked about several times. I belive this year's they approved plans for a rapid response force of 5000. That's not much. It's not fully known what should be expected if the mutual defense is invoked. Most EU countries just trusted thy being in NATO wich includes the USA would be more than enough and have small and even not well funded (by the standard they could afford if they wanted) with exceptions like France, the UK or Poland. Obviusly it's still plenty military power, but the issue it's the uncertainty of what would happen, how it would work, would the cooperation be swift and decisive etc.
I think that both in paper and it practice NATO it's quite more solid that the mutual defense of the EU.
@@TheAleatoriorandom Great, good and intelligent analysis from thealeatoriorandom!!! 👍👍👍
Yo como argentino personalmente me inscribiría cómo voluntario para luchar por España 🇦🇷❤️🇪🇦
malvinas argentinas
primero arreglen su economia y luego ayuden Jajasjsja 💹⁉️🗿
No hace falta bro, en la conferencia de la OTAN que hubo este año en Madrid dijeron justo lo contrario que el tipo este del vídeo xD. Dijeron que si lo defenderían
@@M-Rayan Y a ti que te importa si nuestros hermanos argentinos quieren ayudar a España????????Te molesta???Porque a mi no me molesta que todos los países árabes os ayudeis solo por ser de la misma religion(que lo haceis)entonces que mierdas le dices al argentino?A ti como marroquíes lo que te molesta es que prefiera ayudar a España que a tu pais Marruecos jajajajajjajsjs llora un poco pero es así,igual que europa ayudaría a España contra cualquier país fuera de europa,europa manda y los demas a callar🤫😁
Gracias bro
Even if Madeira was not protected by nato, they would still be protected by the UK under the Anglo-Portuguese alliance.
That explains why the nato didnt attack Argentina during the falkland war
The UK also never triggered Article 5
Also other south American countries said if other countries helped the UK they would get involved
They never got involved because the U.K never invoked article 5
@@Red-90 Portugal wasn't in NATO at the time
They didn’t need to 😂 everyone knew that was a certified deathwish for Argentina
Morocco: takes back Ceuta and Melilla
People: fReNCh gUyAnA
How takes back? Ceuta an Melilla always have been part of Spain.
@@dumbgameboys618 when was it part of spain or should i say spain was part of the moroccan empire ??
@@The-Essential-Feed deja de inventar historias de tu "país", el personaje mas grande de toda la historia de Marruecos es Morad 😂
@@The-Essential-Feedthe visigoths
@@The-Essential-Feed Ceuta was built by Portuguese people, later on when Spain and Portugal unified Ceuta changed under Spanish control... Melilla was built by Spaniards, both cities were built when Morocco didn't even existed as a united country... So funny thing Ceuta and Melilla were never under Morocco's control
Both France and Spain are strong enough to protech themselves without NATO.
Yeah Spain can easily take morocco 😂
@@LMhectorr im not sure if your joking? Spain would stomp morocco
@@EthanFrw i know i am laughing at the people who think morocco beats spain
Like USA was stronger than vietnam
@@LMhectorr I’m sorry I thought u were bein sarcastic
Imagine digging a canal around Meililla and Ceuta to make them classify as islands lmao
Wouldn't be surprised honestly
So we expand Europe back to North Africa.
Ave Roma.
we should restore moorish rule over Iberia, hell, maybe even for a second umayyad invasion of gaul
Ave Roma!!! Ave Caesar!!!
@Top10 Games lmao european countries remain as the wealthies nations on earth while Africa is just full of misery
or getting back alandalus
AVE CESARE ! per appia ad Africam Septentrionalem
The current Spanish Armada if someone invades: hola 👹
الله أكبر ☠️
The spanish Armada when they see Mountaineers with muskets and knifes and donkeys and horses coming and massacring them: 😭🔫
@@aym.s5827 your Armada is only a bunch of pateras, so...
@@ahmedmansour1564 alawahakbar
@@aym.s5827 we won and killed more g u lose so much to Polisario camels that had to build a wall u can go bomb some polisarios or fuck with us Algeria & Spain will literraly give moroco to the polisarios and create a free rif republic next to our eternal Spanish cities in Africa 🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸
Me being from egypt:why would egypt attack Italy why egypt as an example😭😭😭😭
They needed one example… 😵😜
@@cookietrouble4637 I mean not egypt why egypt😭😭😭😭😭
@@marwanshehab1275 because they needed an example
@@mazen6446 can't they just do another country
Russians are trying to stur up shat and Putin is looking for ways to get Nato and the EU focused somewhere else other than aiding Ukraine 🇺🇦 I'm sorry your country got dragged into this garbage.
Also in the same way, Portugal wasn't helped by NATO when there was a rebellion/war in their colonies. In fact, some of the rebels were even supported by the USA.
USA supported financilaly and militarly the loser faction, UNITA
Morocco and spain are in love with each other those days
No
No
In your sand's dreams😂
Spain will never be in love with a bunch of moors
No f*ck world be better without spain
Spain and France: let's turn Ceuta, Meilla and French guinea into islands
Brazil and Morocco: [slaps face]
"They are not islands " yet.
Do not underestimate the determination of Spanish people.
“Do not underestimate the détermination of the spanish people”
The determination: 5h long siesta every day
What determination???
@@9_9876 says a romanian xdddd
@@PSTorres I live in Spain. These people are lazy af. It's both a virtue and a weakness
Bro what 💀
I’m from Ceuta and technically it IS an island, but we built two bridges so… now is not? Weird
fun fact hhhhh ceuta is an island
only the western part is an island
He spanish immigrant 😂⚒️
You just gave the Moroccan King an Idea
Who? The drunkard who lives in Paris ?
he is busy getting drunk and sleeping with his boyfriends
@@carli_e6130 lmao u get this sentence from facebook
@@burnem2166 You wish. It has been confirmed by medias worlwide that he spends half of the year in Paris, far away from his subjects.
@@carli_e6130 Nope. It has been a video from 2017 when he had a heart problem.
Are you Algerian or Spanish ?
Morocco: alr boys less gooo
This is a really well explained video. Great job!
Si solo falta que estudie un poco
Now i finally know why the british were alone against the argentines during the falklands war
NATO backup would've been a bit excessive anyways considering the UK achieved a pretty solid victory on it's own
@@LuKing2 It wasnt such an easy victory.
@@jonoc3729 considering it was on the other half of the planet, it was a decisive victory. 255 Uk service personnel was KIA and 649 Argentine service personnel KIA, and this from the distance of more than 8000 Nm.
They didn't receive aid because they didn't invoke Article 5.
UPDATE: there are now under NATO protection
What? Source?
No, it was a fake new
@@armoredspain7053 it was agreed in the NATO conference in Madrid and the new was an all spanish and European news paper and everywhere, just look it up if you dont trust me
Born in Sweden and i have travled to mdiq around 7 times and crosed the bordet To spain while i was there. Its Awsome that i Can Take a vecation to spain in like 20 min while im on vacation in marocco
At the Madrid summit in 2022, these rules were modified. Now all the overseas dbe territories of Europe and North America are protected by NATO
Putin: "My general, I know what we're gonna do today!"
You’re also forgot to mention Aruba Bonaire and curaçao even though they’re protected under the Dutch
We all know what happened when Libya tried nationalizing the french held oil companies in their land, not only france but also the NATO came clamping down on Gaddafi
so it's basically calling for suicide🤷🏽♀️
People still act as if NATO is any different than Russia.
Sad
This makes sense as just the UK went to war with Argentina for the Falkland islands not the whole of Nato.
Spain also owns a few small islands just off the coast of Morocco, so maybe those would be subject to NATO protection
Don’t let moroccans see this video
(Im spanish btw)
NATO does protect the Faroe Islands and Greenland as a part of Denmark, though. They are a group of islands in the North Atlantic and the latter is in North America. 🙃
Which is why Britain could not invoke Article 5 when Argentina invaded the Falklands.
Morocco be like
"No article 5 for you"
Spain be like: no war victory for you
@@elyisusking3603 might be true 20 years ago
Belive me you will go so far and one of first 10k subscribers i am happy
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Morroco : Hey Spain ! Give us our cities back .
Spain : OK but only when Britain gives us Gibraltar back 😏
Ceuta and melilla have never been in Morocco boundaries
Zpain, give Olivença back!!!
@@suevialania perdisteis la guerra de los naranjos y con ella Olivenza
Ceuta and Melilla aren't colonies, Gibraltar is LEGALLY a colony in the Spanish territory
@@VictorLdVS 2 Legal referendums both 98% and 99% Gibraltar has been British longer than Spanish it’s been part of the moors for longer than Spanish hahaha you ain’t got enough power to get Gibraltar back especially when. We in the US will always back the UK
Morocco : eeemm intressting Idea
This exists because the US and UK weren’t that hyped about the possibility of France activating Article 5 during the Algerian War.
Just Like The Falklands Islands/Las Malvinas War Between Argentina and Great Britain.
Una cosa es una colonia y otra dos ciudades españolas desde antes que existiese Marruecos 😩
@@carlesmassiaurko7761 Gibraltar is British
@@carlesmassiaurko7761 it’s not a colony it’s sovereign British territory inhabited by mostly people of British descent
Las what?
@@Glitter_H_Hoof no is not is our land only a colony
There is also the Peñon de Velez de la Gomera, wich was a Spanish island until an earquake created a landbrude to morocco
There are islands that are in these territories however which I’m assuming that if Morocco lands on them, Article 5 would take place.
Nato:have some weapons
Spain:Thanks
This isn't true anymore: in the NATO convention of Madrid in 2022: Ceuta,Melilla and some islands are now protected.
My little island ❤️
Somos dois amio
Islands of NATO countries above the tropic of cancer are under NATO umbrella
Morocco' politic isn't aiming to take back Sebta and Mlilia by force, it want to take it in a diplomatic way like in recent year in 2021 when it lashed out all migrants toward the borders of the two cities
Ceuta and Melilla haven't been never Moroccan so you can't take something back if it was never yours
Wrong, read the actual treaty, article 6 is written for the purpose of article 5, it states that "on the territory of any of the Parties in Europe or North America, on the Algerian Departments of France, on the territory of Turkey or on the Islands under the jurisdiction of any of the Parties in the North Atlantic area north of the Tropic of Cancer" which means all territories north of the cancer parallel, which includes Melilla Ceuta and above all Turkey.
morocco is not gonna do nothing😂 full support spain from greece 🇪🇸❤️🇬🇷
uhhh ok?
morocco isnt the type of country to do that anyways
You don't know Moroccans, you can ask your Turkish neighbors, but the Spaniards know us well
@@iink946 Yeah, you're the guys after which we have laughed and defeated one time after another for centuries.
@@ivandreuxzuev9473 We occupied your country for 800 years during the Almoravid and Almohad era. Secondly, Spain occupied only some cities in the north of Morocco. Third, can you name the battles you won?
@@iink946 Spain did not exist in that time period by the way, neither did Morocco.
A Latino from Brazil wrote the following sentence:
"Wich means Brazil could also attack France and it would be on it's own."
Brazil does not have nuclear weapons and has a less powerful army than France. If I were you, I would not take the risk because in case of invasion France would retaliate and would occupy a part of Brazil and why not annex it.
Considering the fact that most of the population lives in your country, they will not oppose it in time since France has a much more developed social model while your country lets people die in total misery! Your country is politically and socially unstable. Tens of millions of people live in poverty, in total insecurity, there are murders, rapes and thefts everywhere!
Fodase mermão, ninguém te perguntou, teu país deve tar uma bosta mesmo pra vim escrever tanta merda do país dos outros e ser feliz
@@Pedrinho8080 Ahaha do you know my country ?? LOOOL
@@frexelsio6786 bro you cant even understand a holy joke about "lets invade french guyana lol" and wrote a VERY BIG text explaining why thats not possible while everyone knows that impossible and you also tell everything Brazil has that is not good
and you also wrote so much bad things about the country that is not the reality of everyone that lives here, I could not also use every stereotype to write shits about your country because that would be not the reality of who lives there
@@Pedrinho8080 Latin America is a big garbage. Even Spain hates latinos !
Ceuta and Melilla have been from Spain since 1640 and 1497. Morocco was created in 1956 so they have no right to take them. In the last NATO Congress, Pedro Sánchez asked to leave in writing that Ceuta and Melilla would be defended. They replied that it was not necessary to put it in writing because and that if Spain is attacked, it does not matter where, it would be defended. By the way, the King of Spain Felipe Vl has the title of Emperor of the Byzantine Empire, which includes Morocco before it was created.
Morroca wasnt created in 1956, they have merely been released from their status of Protectorate the countries created were either further south or Algeria in the case of the Maghreb
@@Red-90 jajajajjajaja
@@Red-90 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
that article was recently modified and now they are considered within NATO
How this land belongs to Spain,it’s clearly Morocco land
Wtf these lands are Spanish and the people that live there are Spanish
but Morocoo belongs to Spain😌
Ceuta and Melilla being built before Morocco existed as a united country.... That's like Italy now claiming Istanbul to Turkey, Istanbul was never under Italian control... The Roman empire had control over Istanbul/Constantinople but not Italy, kind of samw thing with Morocco and Ceuta and Melilla, but these 2 were never under Morocco's control.
Resume:
-Ceuta and Melilla are older than the country that is claiming them (pretty much stupid in my opinion)
-Both citities were under Spanish control before Morocco existed
-Both cities were never under Morocco's control
Spain: **turns into turkey**
Like if u get it lol
Morocco: WEHEHELL DONT MIND IF I DO!
No it wouldn't be, the european union has a collective defense treaty too
Me, a Brazilian that knows that we have been taking shit from the French since the 1960s:
Good. Good.
Me, a French that knows that we are the 3rd nuclear power in the world: Good luck to you
Morocco is surrounded by enemies. Spain in the north, Algeria in the east, and the Polisario in the south. Therefore, Morocco is not among its priorities to recover Ceuta and Melilla. Perhaps after solving the problem of Western Sahara
Spain won't be an enemy if they don't try to claim territories, the day they renounce to that at least politically they should have a friendly relationship, Sánchez gave the Moroccans the legitimacy of Western Sahara as an autonomy territory inside Morocco so their relationship should be friendly now since Argelia is now Spain's ''enemy'' because of that
@@TasukuMuncha es más grande que Sánchez, una decisión soberana no se puede tomar tan fácilmente
@@iink946 Opino lo mismo, deberia hacerse una votacion al menos o incluso un referendum para ver que piensan los ciudadanos sobre eso
I am not from Morocco, but ceuta and mellilia and other island belong to Morocco and Spain occopate it
Same with Falkland's islands near Argentina.
That was why article 5 was not triggered when Argentina attacked the Falklands.
NATO would become active anyway.
Don't think so, all the powerful countries in NATO don't treat Spain with respect, they are backstabbers.
Madeira : 32°37'45 N...??
Portuguese Islands are all under NATO's umbrella, just read article 6 and you'll get it. but some people are hard headed!
Morocco : what are we waiting for just watch the video
Morocco: 😏
As a Moroccan this sounds like a good summer 2023 activity
And you know what they say, history repeats itself.
@@celticlad5866 i agree just like the old days " the war of the 3 kings" 😉
I thought you were too busy fence jumping in summer. Are u sure you have time for that other activity?
I dare Morocco to try. I would enlist in the Spanish military so fast, you wouldn't be able to say "Speedy Gonzalez" 5 times fast enough.
We will trust me it's coming sooner than you think, and i promise we will send you to your grandparents who tried the same thing in annoual battle, i really can't wait for it to happen, spaniards think they are though but when that day comes we will dig your graves in sebta and melilla in our land.
1 million moroccans living in spain : 😈
@@user-kg7zr3yl3n Spain setting up concentration camps for the 1 million brown manlets that would even make Hitler impressed: 😈
@@user-kg7zr3yl3n hijos y señores de la mentira. Traidores como nunca... Eso es Marruecos.
@@user-kg7zr3yl3n exactly lol
As a moroccan it is time to do a little bit of trolling.
Nigga thinks he's going to take them back
@@SpanishEnthusiastt well we did beat you spaniards in the worldcup this year. 😎
@@vanillabarrel7886 If you're talking realism you haven't beaten our military yet and the last time something happend like in 07 we won 😎
@@vanillabarrel7886 Cuantos mundiales tiene Marruecos?
also Morocco is rich in some rare minerals NATO countries might be interested of. attacking these territories would be costly for Morocco.
Hello, I'm a citizen, of one of those towns and I'd like to shed some light on our situation with our anexionist neighbor, we've started to notice that they are using tactics simmilar to the annexation of Crimea by Ruzzia, they are flooding the census with their own citizens in order to gain majority of votes in elections, while at the same time, draining public help and subventions since they have their immigrant family status and double nationality bonuses (I may be mistaken in that last one, I don't know), which the annexionist collective gladly takes advantage of, on top of that, the moroccan government has been performing small and medium levels of economic sabotage, specially during the pandemic, we get a fair ammount of mostly agrarian resources from Morocco, which let's be honest, it's better than the ones we get from the peninsula most of the time, because the convenience (we get the rest from the peninsula or both), they hope that by draining us of resources, we'll stop being profitable or sustainable to the peninsula, forcing our goverment to basically sell or abandon us. In terms of emigration, it is supected thet many young spainyards feel forced to move to the peninsula since most work positions are held by moroccans (some are annexionists some others are not ofcourse) and their close ones, it is rare now to see someone being hired somwhere without contacts already working in the busines (for both populations). Morocco has also "expanded" their sea territories by prohibiting and arresting any spanish vessel that drops anchor in shared waters thus limiting fishing capabilities (all that under the excuse of illegal immigration which while fair enough, Morocco has taken any chance and excuse to "attack" our territories).
Then there are a couple of things I'm less certain about, there have been many reports of moroccan vessels intruding in our waters to either fish or force our fishing boats to sell part of their catch, BUT, the same it is said to hapen with reversed roles, chances are that both sides are trading illegally (mostly to avoid Morocco's prohibitively expensive customs fee and bribes to the occasional shameless fronteer guard (on both sides). Morocco has also been acused of organizing massive immigration waves, many of you might know already about the mass frontier fence jumps to Ceuta and Melilla's perimetres by immigrants trying to cross the borders, by law and principle we are not going to leave those who succeed in crossing our borders on their own, which drains us further of resources giving them shelter and eventually sending them to the penisnula.
Socially I don't see too much trouble, we've been coexisting since forever so the biggest sources of social unrest come from already radicalized individuals on both sides, however, I have to say, of all the times I've seen a moroccan-spainyard argument, it's the moroccan the one who usually pulls of the race card to get away, dont know what to think about that but at this point I expect anything.
As for their motives, I can't find none other than ego and greed, none of the tree have territories to have either industrial or farming capabilities, Ceuta, Melilla and the Canary Ilands are basically tourist resorts with the majority of the land taken by residential areas, Ceuta might have the chance of being a transport hub and the Canarys do have very few and small petroleum pockets in their waters which they are adamant of prohibiting any exploitation of, and Melilla is literally 13km square of housing, they have basically nothing other than supermarkets and small scale telecomunications.
Overall Morocco's goverment still takes any chances to F us over but we still adapt.
Just one last thing, in 2020 I got some new moroccan neighbours, they moved to my city because of the pandemic, one day the wife was speaking very loudly through her phone so I went to close my window, I didn't, I cluldn't, I froze in place, astonished and sad, hearing her talking to some relative or friend in who was still in Morocco about why she and her family moved here; in her own words: Morocco is a prision.
Just WTF is going on over there? I'm getting equally worried for them as much as us.
Oh bro what the fuxk, I wanna read that but it's infinite. I quit just 2 paragraphs in.
Bro, relax your comment is non sense!!
Start gathering you things cause you will be back where you came from
Good. Hope Morocco kicks you out right away
You can’t whine that people are democratically wanting to not be apart of Spain anymore. “they are sending migrants to flood the census” nah shit you live in for all intents and purposes a colony the local population will inevitably overtake the colonizers
NATO should defend every inch of every Member-State absolutely. This is such nonsense. The Atlantic Council should amend The NATO Treaty.
PS: The Falkland War / British-Argentinian War would have never happened.
The Falklands should be argentinian territory, here I'm totally with Argentina
@@snowman4313 Why? The Islands have been British for longer than Argentina has even been a country. All democratic elections on the Islands have resulted in almost 100% voting for British ownership and the Islanders are very proud of this. Argentineans who want the Falklands are nothing more than nationalists with a weird inferiority complex.
@@snowman4313 Argentina has no legitimate claim. They briefly held the islands a few centuries back there were never any Argentenians living there. The British were the first people to settle on the islands and that was centuries ago. There were never any natives to begin with.
@@Thecrazymonkey49 bullshit Argentina recognized Luis Vernet as governor before the Brits usurped the territory
Fuck the UK
Malvinas is Argentina, Gibraltar is Spanish
@@backdrop8469
Let's make elections in every Chinatown in the US so the Chinese people living there can vote if they want to be part of China
France could also "Unite" with Morocco
The reason why that Article was put in place, was because at the time the UK, France, Spain and some other Nato members had quite a sizable amount of overseas colonies, and most of the Nato Members did not want to go to war to defend their numerous colonies. So they limited the Area.
As for Ceuta and the like, while they are not covered by the Nato convention due to that particular article they would be covered by the EU convention so if Morocco had any ideas they would still have to face most of Europe.
Ceuta and Melilla have never in their history been colonies
Spain can take Morroco without any help. No se preocupen
🤣🤣🤣 yeah right
What do you mean, just like when spanya and france were working together to invade morocco because they will be f if they don't work together 😂😂😂
Weak spaniards can't even take Portugal due to British-Portugal alliance lmfao
Not even Morocco can control Morocco, let them be by themselves. No country would like to be part of that failed and corrupt state. That's why all morrocans want to live in Europe.
@@yonkos2792 Me : ARAB LEAGUE
i.. dont think Morocco could defeat Spain…
Bieleve me they can take back the two cities in minutes but they are just waiting for the exact time
@@yonkos2792 Yes but in an all out war, Morocco would be decimated..
@@yonkos2792 do you think a military buildup, would go unnoticed?
@@SquooshyCatboy at first Morocco can take the both cities easily but spain would counter attack it but Morocco has a strong air defense systems so it's not easy to get them back
@@harvey3839 Spain is much more powerful in terms of ground, sea, and air force from what I’ve read online.
This also explains why nato didn't go after Argentina during the folkland wars
Oddly specific that Article 5 has an effect if the country that is attack is in Europe, North America, Islands, and Turkey... for some reason
What ? Then under what article they invaded Afghanistan, Syria etc for US ?!😜😜😂😂😂
Uh well US was attacker not defender so article wasn't triggered
Stop giving them ideas
You think we don't know this?🤔
*Turkey:* so am i in Nato?
Yes since 1950s nato's one of the first countries
Isn't that what happend to the fakland islands? Argentina invaded and NATO didnt intervined, the UK was on their own
Dont give the Morrocans ideas, pls
Nah, just show them what happened to the Falklands
The day Morrocans would try to take those cities they would be at war with all of the EU. Good luck with that.
morocco you know what to do
Aint gon do shit
morocco will get carpet bomber ig they try lmao
@@carlesmassiaurko7761 how come
@@rambo6874 spain would bomb ur brokie ass
@@carlesmassiaurko7761 you don't know
Technically there is an EU treaty that says that an attack on members by an external nation in an attack on whole EU.
But is considered worthless because of EU council that must vote at unanimity to do every kind of intervention.
same treaty exists within the arab league and it's equally useless
*Laughs in Article 2(4), 39, and 51 of the UN Charter*
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