As a kid who grew up in France, I actually remember they teach “Oceania” as being a real actual proper continent. EDIT: This comment surprisingly got a lot of visibility, more than I expected. So I guess I might as well give some info and say I was born in late 2002, and it might be interesting to see who was taught what, where and when.
Mexican here. Born in 1993. Public school. I was taught 6 continents: América, Europa, Asia, África, Oceanía and Antártica. But I was also taught that eurasia can be a thing depending on how you look at it and that América can be divided on 3 sub-continents: North, central and South.
Yee, Brazillian here, and basically same, but it's confusing, sometimes, it's said that the 3 subdivisions of america are in fact separate continents (Due to some cultural aspects and all), and Eurasia/Afro-Eurasia are just a landmass thing
@@itadakitontaro36what I found weird was that they decided to separate Central America into it's own thing when it's basically just a little stretch of mass between Mexico and Colombia and afaik isn't culturally different enough from either to really matter
In France we learn at school that continents are separated by oceans OR geographical limits such as big mountains (we were taught the Urals defined the eastern boundary of Europe)
Is western NA a different continent than Eastern NA...the same for SA? If you define as separated a around by natural oceans or water straights...then there are 4 continents: Asia/Europe/Africa is one America is two Australia (or Oceania) is three Antarctica is four Five if you consider Greenland big enough and not part of the American shelf.
The problem is that the Urals aren't that big, and India and the rest of Asia should be also separated into different continents because the Himalayas. The real reason is that Asia and Europe have been different continents from classical times and the Urals just happen to be in the general area.
Because of what you didn't mention in this video I learned that the Arctic is not considered a continent, because there is no landmass above sea level underneath all that ice, unlike Antarctica. Tres bien!
@@noname_atall saying "currently" implies that there is landmass under the Arctic ice, there is not. At least not any more so than in any ocean. The Arctic is a floating mass of ice. The shallowest part under the Arctic icecap is the Lomonosov Ridge, which has at its shallowest part around 400 meters down to the ocean floor.
@@SwitchAndLever The Arctic is actually a region, beyond just the Arctic Ocean. As well, the Arctic Ocean isn't permanently covered by ice; in the summer melt, it shrinks by about half.
@@WilliamAndrea region ≠ continent, and continents are generally beholden to a landmass, something which the Arctic polar icecap lacks. A floating piece of ice is not land, even though you can step on it and walk around on it. The Arctic region includes areas of several countries on different continents. I should know, I grew up just by the Polar Circle, which is what defines the Arctic region, in the north of Sweden 😄
@@SwitchAndLever Sorry, maybe I wasn't clear. I'm not saying the Arctic is a continent by any means. I was trying to clarify that you wrote "Arctic" in some places where you meant "Arctic Ocean" and that there's no ice cap per se on the Arctic Ocean. There's a pack of sea ice, but it's impermanent. On the other hand, Greenland does have an ice cap (technically an ice "sheet", I just found out), which is in the Arctic.
We New Zealanders have decided that due to the fact that NZ seems to be missing from most maps (including the ones at the back in the intro) we will claim our own continent Zealandia. We figure no one will notice. We’ve even got the geologists on board, and a Wikipedia entry. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zealandia
@@thescooshinator used to enjoy watching Greys content but when he started changing his content I stopped watching about 4 years ago. Miss his long dark series
In Russian there's a term "part of the world" that's used for anywhere distinctive enough. So Russian geography pretty much takes the 'landmasses separated by water' approach for its definition of a continent. But Europe and Asia are still considered different "parts of the world".
@@giselavaleazar8768we have 2 things 1)Wereld deel - world part 2)Continent They count is different depending on which 1 you are speaking about because for continent the americas combine and asia/europe becomes eurasia
It's a nice joke, but unfortunately it's *mostly* a myth. The IOC did define it that way for a brief period in the late 1940's, but it was dropped after nobody could find any evidence the creator of the flag intended it that way. Since then the colours have not been tied to any particular continents.
@@LandoBando-pj5ox the north of america doesnt get its own ring. ALL of america gets ONE ring.....and if it's based on skin tone, then that ring would be brown, as most americans are brown.
Part of the reason that Europe is a separate continent is because historically it was nigh impossible (by land) to get to Asia via land due to the mountains and sea Note: the continents were drawn by Ancient Greece, Russia and Spain. Other note: the Silk Road did not exist in Ancient Greece’s time.
Nonsense. It was barely possible because of political reasons. The Northern route was complicated because the mongol and tatar empires roamed free there. The Southern route through modern Turkey was blocked by the Persians and later the Islamic empires. But all these areas are not blocked by mountains or sea. You can get to Central Asia(!) via Russia fast, and you can get to Persia easily too. In fact, the sea actually makes Asia more accessible.
@@lowlsqwid We are civilized now. We take trains. Which you can do, you can go by rail from Portugal to South Vietnam in a single trip (transfers not withstanding), through Russian, Mongolia and China, among other train routes between the two continents. And as you should know, trains don't really like very steep angles, which means before the age of trains and cars, there were considerably flat and walkable routes, on foot and horseback, between the two "continents". Probably the same ones the Mongols used to harass people all the way up to Germany, a thing that did happen.
Back when I was in elementary school (US) in the late '50s we were taught that the division between Europe and Asia were the Ural Mountains then down to the Caspian Sea, west along the southern border of what is now Georgia, across the Black Sea, and down through the Bosphorus. The Urals are also a major dividing line between Russian provinces/state/subdivisions.
Afroeurasia (1st Human Frontier) -> Polystralia (2nd Human Frontier ca. 50k bc) & the Americas (3rd Human Frontier - ca. 15k bc) -> Antarctica (the Lost Continent)
5:40 If UK sends Jay Foreman to the Eurovision Song Content, there will be no doubt that UK will finish first. Petition to send Jay Foreman to ESC 2022.
I was always taught that continents were basically down to tectonic plates. Then we were taught that some countries were lumped in with the nearest one
The Swedish has two words translated as "continents": "kontinenter" and "världsdelar" "kontinenter" are the 4 landmasses Afro-Eurasia, America, Antarctica and Australia "världsdelar" are the 6 political regions of Africa, Europe, Asia, Oceania, South America and North America
The Swedish and Norwegian texts say: "Do not eat this. If you accidentally eat it, consult a doctor." Edit: the turkish Text at 4:26 say (according to Google Translate): Here you go. Here I am. Uncle Moe! Thank you, Madam This will be a gift. Uncle Moe! I'm here while you eat.
The giant space scissors part is only slightly an exaggeration for burning centuries of diplomatic goodwill, halving a country's entire food supply, ditching whole industries (hello mussels producers), upsetting Irish nationalists again, and tossing any influence on European matters to the bin.
In Slovakia we learn two different types Continens and Terra firma(Világrész). Continens is Europe, Asia , Africa, America, Australia and Oceania(This is 1), Antartica. Terra Firma is Eurasia, Africa, North America, South America, Australia and Oceania, Antartica. One is with tectonic plates and one is with cultural.
''But complicated culture can't be conveniently cut into clear catecories'' ; Another alliteration sneakilly but brilliantly put in! I love these, keep it going please!
Another alliteration adeptly assembled, all adverbs and adjectives are adequately articulated and admirably announced, an astoundingly amazing achievement!
In Mexico we call the continent that you guys call Australia, Oceania. I was very confused when I learned English and they referred to Australia as a continent until I learned about how different places have a different number of continents
@@coderdbd We call it Oceania too (in NZ), but not as a "continent" - the Australian landmass is the only continent around here. Basically, Oceania means the South Pacific region - the parts that aren't otherwise in Asia. 🙂
SBS is in the EBU, which is the only criterion for entry. In any case, Europe only exists as a cultural distinction from Asia, which is also more or less true of us in Australia. We’re a southeast Asian island that’s culturally separate from the rest of Southeast Asia so we are basically European.
As an Australian the single reason against the swathe of reasons FOR joining Eurovision is the first four letters of the show's name. If they called it 'Camp Pop Song Bangers' Australia would have joined decades ago.
This is a partially less difficult issue in Swedish, where we distinguish between kontinent (continent) and världsdel (part of the world). Eurasia, sometimes afroeurasia, is considered a continent while europe, asia, and africa are considered parts of the world.
Here in Finland they teach about continents like Eurasia and subcontinents such as Europe and Asia. And those can further be split into regions, such as the Middle East, South Asia or Central Europe. Tectonics are taught separately.
"Regions of the world" is a lot more useful of a term. There's no use in grouping Italy, Scotland and Spain with China, Japan and Vietnam into a single continent - but there's also no way to defend Europe is a continent as we understand it. It's not even like Africa, that is connected only by a small peninsula. Europe is indistinguishable from Asia if you didn't already know it's supposed to be a continent.
If Europe gets to be a separate continent because of culture, then the rest of "Asia" should be split up as well. Sweden is culturally closer to Norway than Vietnam, yes, but Sweden is still closer to Syria than Syria is to Vietnam.
@@hi-ve1cw That's interesting, but I think central asia should be viewed as the fifth big area of eurasia. I guess it has been influenced by europe, the middle east and east Asia depending on where you are, but I still don't see a siberian or a turkmenistani being part of any of the other groups
@@hi-ve1cw what about Southeast Asia, Central Asia and North Asia (Mongolic and Turkic cultures of Siberia, as well as minority indigenous siberian people)?
@@hi-ve1cw disagree. Mongolian steppe people culture is quite distinct. There’s a reason why Imperial China was never quite able to absorb them into their empire proper. South East Asia being classified as a mixture of South and East Asia is also painfully generalising, considering the Austronesian who dominate the area have long and deep history, as well as cultural root. In classification, these regions are genetically, linguistically and culturally distinct enough that classifying them into South or East Asia seems very wonky. There’s also the fact that today there are 400 millions Austronesian living in the region, classifying them as a mix of South and East Asia is generalising 400 millions people. Then there’s the problem that these cultures influenced each other, so pointing out “cradle of civilisation” is very arbitral.
One really big bit of continental cultural confusion is Mexico. Mexico is part of North America, but is culturally much closer to its neighbors in South America than either of the other North American nations, a point that some people have used to argue against the distinction between North and South America.
Where is the confusion? Being on the same continent does not mean you have to share anything culturally. Continent is a geographical term and has nothing to do with culture. Mexico is in North America or in the Americas.
@@alexskatit4188 yes, and while I agree Mexico is in North American, many people forget that the Central American countries are as well. Culturally both of those are more similar to South America. And I was pointing out that there can be a cultural argument made for a dividing line since geographic lines aren't nearly as clear cut as many make them out to be.
@@LiqdPT I never said that a cultural argument could not be made. After all it is used in Eurasia. The case is less convincing when it comes to the Americas since these cultural lines are recent creations. Using that, Quebec would be a separate continent and the Caribbean would be a mess of continents. In the Americas, the geographical divide is the most appropriate.
At school I wasn't really taught the continents as a clear-cut geographic term, just as a handy way to divide the world into slightly more manageable sections. Hence I was taught Oceania as a continent, because it's just a useful term for that whole part of the world. So what counts as a continent really just depends on what's convenient for you in conversation, which is obviously going to vary around the world.
@@Diamondman164 Thus making it a reference to Jay's series of singing songs with the lyrics one beat behind the music. It's very clever and somewhat disorientating, which makes me feel rather stupid and, erm, disorientated, which is why I don't listen to them.
Doesn’t he sing one syllable out of sync, so in this case shouldn’t he be more like Map Men Map Men Map Map Map Men Map Men Map Men Map Map Map Men Instead of Map Men Map Men Map Map Map Men Map Men Map Men Map Map Map Men
Mark is one syllable out of sync, Jay is two syllables out. The previous one (or before i dunno) had the both of them a syllable out of sync. Seems like they know people are anticipating how will they do to the intro now, since they did the extra 'men'
In Brazil we are taught that the continents are: Africa, America, Antarctica, Asia, Europe and Oceania. By our system Russia is part of Europe, United States and Canada are both an indivisible part of the American continent, that despite Morocco being a colony of Spain it belongs to the African continent, and that Amerigo Vespucci (from which the American continent name derives) never stepped in the United States, nor did Cristoforo Colombo.
Actually here in Russia we have two different terms: 'continent' and 'materik' (mainland). First one relies on culture, second one - on the teсtonic plates, so continents are Africa, Australia (and Oceania), Antarctica, Europe, Asia and America. Mainlands are again Africa, Australia (and Oceania), Antarctica, but also Eurasia, South America and North America.
We have similar thing in Czechia - officially we recognize 5 "kontinentů" (Americas, Eurasia, Antarctica, Oceania/Australia, Africa), but 7 "světadílů" (splitting Americas and Eurasia). However in casual conversations these terms are often used interchangeably
@@parker4406 Yes but no, teсtonic plates also should be divided by water mostly. So if India does not have huge land connection with Eurasia it can be separate continent.
Fun fact, the more west you go in Turkey, the more "Western" people tend to be. The more East you go, the more (Middle) "Eastern" they tend to be culturally. Especially popular touristic places are primarily in the west.
One thing i wonder about; since when is Istanbul where east meets west? I read Baya Ganyo, a Bulgarian book set around 1880, and it describes the main character coming back from Vienna as "He came back from Europe". Where did Europe end during Ottoman times? And where did it end in Byzantine times?
@@TijmenvandenHeuvel it was more of a cultural thing than geographical. Basically wherever europeans were the majority and had an established elite class that's where Europe was. During the medieval times , most likely people didn't thought that the Eurasian Steppe stretching all the way to the Ural mountains was a part of Europe
@@TijmenvandenHeuvel Roughly speaking, for both cases, the answer is "up until greek was spoken". The anatolian peninsula was full of Greeks up until the great population exchange of the 1920s after the collapse of the Ottoman empire.
Another, more classic, approach is to combine the idea that the count should be the magical number like 3, 7 or 13, with the ancient Greek conntinents: Europe, Asia and Africa. As this is already 3 and doesn't include continents around Roanoke, Sydney and the South Pole, the next option is 7 continents. So the original 3 plus Antarctica, Australia, the Pacific plate, South, Central and North America, so need to merge some to get back to 7. Traditional solutions include considering Antarctica and Australia a single "South Continent" named Australia, merging the 3 Americas to only 2 or 1, and merging the Pacific islands into nearby dry continents. But doing all those options would leave only 5, so that's eliminating too many.
In Ukraine we’ve been taught about “continents” (Eurasia, Australia, North and South America, Africa and Antarctica) and “world parts” (Europe, Asia, America, Australia and Oceania, Antarctica, Africa). And it is strictly forbidden to mix that concepts...
But Asia is a bad "world part", it's at least divided into three areas: West Eurasia, South Asia and East Asia (also Siberia or North Asia but that's like Antarctica: no fireworks allowed).
@@markcooper-jones7494 - They are large landmasses mostly surrounded by oceans (and in rare cases joined to others by a minuscle isthmus, conveniently bored to make a man-made canal).
Thank you!!! I remember being taught that as well, coming from Slovakia. But apparently the only one who remembers it, bcs I later talked to my friends and they all thought I was crazy for thinking "kontinent" and "svetadiel" are 2 different concepts. I've started to doubt myself. Vindication!
I think we need to just appreciate how amazing it is that Mark Cooper-Jones is named that because an ancestor named Kooperj married someone with the name Oanes, and it became Kooper-Jones, it wasn't just the fusion of the names Cooper and Jones. That is fascinating.
I am from Argentina and In school geography are taught 6 Continents (America, Europe, Asia, Africa, Oceania and Antarctica). If I'm not mistaken, it is also taught in the rest of Latin America, Spain, Italy, France and some other European country. It seems to me that the concept of 7 continents is from the Anglo-Saxon countries (United States, UK, Australia, etc.)
@@commonomics 6 continenti. Il continente è un grande pezzo di terra che ha intorno l'acqua. I continenti sono: l'Europa, l'Asia, l'Africa, l'Oceania, le Americhe e l'Antartide. I continenti sono molto estesi e sono formati da tante placche.
@@coyotelong4349 Hahahahahhaha I laughed so loud singing this now!!!!! It's kiiinda weird but mostly because of the nonsensical humor of this..but it works! Eg.. Birdman is translated into Portuguese as Homem Passaro
Using the term Eurasia in Russia is also culturally useful because there is a certain cross over in Russia. I am originally from Novosibirsk, a city nearer to Mongolia and China than to Moscow. But there are cities further east including Vladivostok which is actually further east than China. Yet these cities are European in culture, demographics and language. So Eurasia makes it easier.
@@KevinKickChannel Being continuous doesn't make it not colonisation. Russians eliminated the indigenous people and cultures then replace them with a settler society. It's the definition of settler colonisation.
It makes sense to me to treat land strips that are “narrow enough” (isthmuses) as continent boundaries. I try to be critical towards what was taught to me in school but still the definition used in Japanese textbooks feels natural. It’s also fine to follow the “continuous landmass” definition more literally. At least geographically speaking. If you incorporate cultural aspects, that one region called Asia is internally too varied I feel like. Are Japan and Saudi Arabia that similar culturally? Cultural boundaries are certainly vague so whatever definition is fine as long as it is appropriate for what is discussed at given time, but as a default general‐purpose definition, “Europe and the others” kind of separation looks a bit ... Eurocentric ... maybe? Edit: According to Japanese Wikipedia, geographical continents (大陸; normally there are 6 of them) and cultural continents (大州; the number varies by definition) are different concepts in Japanese and called differently. When I heard “continents” I just thought of the former but here we are talking about both.
I'm from the US not Japan, so I wasn't taught this in school, but what you're saying makes perfect sense. I don't think you're lacking in critical-ness towards your education; the Japanese just have it right in this case.
"Cultural" definition is really just old Roman Bullshit 2.0: Electric boogaloo. Version 1.0 The Greeks already started dividing their known world into 3, Europe (more or less everything in the mainland mass west of themselves), Asia (everything to the east), and Lybia (basically africa/everything south of the Mediterranean sea that wasn't Asia). Romans more or less copy this, which kinda also influences the later split into West and East Roman empires. Then the Empire decentralizes and mutates into a weird religious thing some people call a collapse (weird collapse where the culture, religion, language and other bullshit of the "conquered" people dominates the "winners", but this is a derailment for another time), but the bullshit notion endures. Then West Rome descendants & friends i.e. the Euros discovered what other people had already discovered millennia ago, the "new" world, and named it after one of her own whose name was already a Latin related name, the Americas (one, two or three, who cares). Then they went searching for the theorized southern continent, found what became better known today as Australia, and lumped all the islands they didn't know about and weren't too close to Asia, basically Oceania = the rest. Then they found the actual Terra Australis, but they already imposed that name on another landmass, so they figured "well, there is the arctic, this sits in the opposite side so... it is the ant(i)arctic, so the continent must be Antarctica, to keep on with the Latinate theme." TL;DR - "Culture" here is really European/ancient Greco-Roman biased self centred horseshit people still somehow get bamboozled by.
@@louisvictor3473 Many people still believed a polar 'Terra Australis' existed after the 'discovery' of Australia, specifically because Australia isn't polar, and because of the crews of HMS Revolution and Adventure witnessing the coastline in the 1770s. It wasn't until the early 19th century that the argument was made to name then New Holland 'Australia', with the argument being that even if a polar land mass existed, it surely wouldn't be bigger than Australia (oops). So, despite being wrong, Australia took the name. Geographers and cartographers who still (correctly) believed a large polar continent existed no longer had a name they could use for it. Thus, they used "the Antarctic continent" as a placeholder while a new name was considered. Ultimately, over the many decades of debate for the new name (appox 80 years) no agreement or consensus ever formed and "the antarctic" had become so ingrained in common usage that when John Bartholomew coined 'Antarctica' people were like, "yeah, that'll do". Interestingly, the word 'Arctic' comes from the Greek for 'bear' and refers to the Ursa constellations you can see there, so you can say not only does Antarctic mean 'opposite Arctic', it also means 'opposite bears' and *coincidentally* of the two polar regions, the Arctic has polar bears and the Antarctic doesn't. So, it really came full circle and ends up being a pretty good set of names, imo.
This it's because of Greeks and Persians, Romans, Troy and European power. You'll see, Greeks and Romans always differentiate themselves from minor Asia. To them, they were the manly society and anything to the east was weakly Asia. They don't even know for certain the difference between all the Asian cultures and they only acknowledged that they were not Asians for sure. That's the idea that created the European mindset. Then the Latin Europeans discovered America (named after an Latin European explorer in behalf of an Latin European country) that's why we do not consider America to be separated continents. Since we shared the same culture and history with Europe
Dear Jay and Mark. I love your videos. I love them so much. Please divest your calendar of all extraneous commitments (family, work, fun etc) and just make videos all day every day. Many thanks, Pete.
Actually, Antarctica is in fact displayed in the Olympics' rings. The only problem is that's it is represented through a white circle, rendering it invisible. Edit 1: omg guys thx for 1 like!!! Edit 2: omg guys thx for 2 likes!!1!1! Edit 3: no way i just got 3 likes, thx guys!!!! Edit 4: okay this is the best day of my life, 4 likes??? Edit 5: wowww thanks for 5 likes guys!!!! Edit 6: yooo 6 likes??? Amazing Edit 7: wtffff omg 7 likes!!! Thx all Edit 8: no way i just hit 8 likes!!! Thanks guys!!! Edit 9: okay, this is epic. 9 likes??? Wtfff Edit 10: Wow! I've never hit 10 likes!!!! Thankssss Edit 11: 11 likes??? Best day of my life Edit 12: wait 12 likes already? Whaaat Edit 13: yoo 13 likes omggg thxxxx Edit 14: now this! 14 likes? I think i'll quit my job to become a professional yt commenter Edit 15: dude wtf 15 likes???? Epic Edit 16: omg 16 likes loool Edit 17: thanks for 17 likes everyone!! Edit 18: no way i got 18 likes!!!! Thxxxx Edit 19: wtfff 19 likes??? Thanks y'all! Edit 20: wait how did i get 20 likes????!!?!?!?! Thank you guys!!! Edit 21: o m g. 21 likes????????????????????????? Edit 22: dude how am i getting so many likes, i just hit 22. thx all! Edit 23: yoooo 23 likes gang!! when am i getting a call from famousbirthdays.com??? Edit 24: 24 likes in less than 1 hour? epic! Edit 25: thanks everyone for 25 likes :) Edit 26: ayyyyy 26 likes!!! thx you guys Edit 27: okay okay guys chill, 27 is more than i've ever had!! Edit 28: hey everyone i just wanted to thank you for your support, i think i'll open a patreon! Edit 29: omgggg 29 likes??? no way!1!!1111 Edit 30: now this is epic! okay guys if we hit 50 likes i'll do part 2!!!!!!!!! Edit 31: wooowwwww 31 likes?!?!?!?!?! thank youuu Edit 32: also follow me on twitter @ics_de Edit 33: sorry i meant to say yoooo thanks for 33 likes!! Edit 34: wtfff 34 likes?? i'm telling my mom! Edit 35: no way i just hit 35 likes in the same comment Edit 36: dude i get 35 likes, but 36??? this is the best day ever Edit 37: well guys i just sent an email to jay foreman to join mapmen cuz i think i'm more popular than them Edit 38: alright now we talking thx for 38 likes!!!! Edit 39: yoooo we just hit 39 likes!! thanks all!111 Edit 40: 40 likes?? amazing. what can i say, thank you!
This channel is great, As much as I like the videos and the topics - I really lose my mind on the commercials I wish I had a product I would totally sponsor you guys. 😂
The English Eurovision entry as "Will This Do?" had me literally laughing out loud. This newest video has not disappointed! (After all, it IS Map Men.)
In México the 5 (got teached as 5 but i think they say are 6 now) are América, África, Europa, Asia and Oceanía. The sixth one is Antártica, but i don't know if it's teached as such or not. Also, North and South America are considered as subdivisions rather than different continents, the same way you don't call SEA its own continent
@@RyuakiraX it used to be Christianity. But Albania and Bosnia are now Muslim and lots of countries have become irreligious. What unifies Europe is just just the feeling that Europe exists.
I remember on my way back to London hearing a lady in her 60s tell her friend "I'm in Europe, dear, I'll call you back soon" and I was thinking "You'll be in Europe still, m'am". And then everyone around me speaking about leaving Europe. I believe some really thought there would be some giant scissors involved somehow. (Also, thank you for your French and French accent, that warmed my French heart!)
They SHOULD leave Europe! Honestly, after Britain has been such a pain in the butt about the Union for so long, I don't want them on the continent anymore.
This is how they teach it in Latin America: America Europe Asia Africa Antarctica Oceania The Americas are considered one continent, composed of four regions: North, South, Center and the Caribbean.
And then you have the ability in some Germanic lamguages to merge both North- and South- America into one continent as America. It's mostly used when speaking as it's nowadays a bit too broad of a definition.
in the US we got told that there was only two American continents, but because of regional/cultural differences there are the 3 subsection of North, Central, and South Americas.
I like the idea of just considering America one thing (purely geographic) or, for practical terms like the separation of Asia and Europe, in three. North and South America make little cultural sense, having a middle man in Central America/Caribbean sorts that out and helps the already uses “North America” as a synonym for Anglo America.
3 ปีที่แล้ว +176
And here in Slovakia, we have two different words for "continent" - one with the geographical meaning and one with the political meaning. They both count up to 6, though, because the former lists North America separate from South America and then Eurasia, while the latter lists just America and then Europe and Asia separately. Don't ask ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@sabin97 they are barely even connected, makes perfect sense, the real issue is grouping Europe and Asia together politically, although that can probs be attributed to the fact that Slovakia and Estonia were part of the soviet Union and have some funky stuff going on like they explained about Russia in the video
yes, we learn about the confusion either to consider Europe, Asia and Africa separate continents too and that other countries consider another configurations. We have the concept of subcontinents as Indian, East Asian, Middle East, Subsaharian Africa, Central America, Caribbean, etc. to include cultural differences
@@justinbell7309 cause of panamericanism wich is realler than you might think. If you wanted to separate the continent culturally it would be betwen Latinoamerica and Angloamerica wich is not a geographical definition at all considering Belice, Jamaica, Quebec, South Texas, South Florida, etc...
7:50 correct translation/adaption to spanish _(from a native spanish speaker)_ Jay: Así que hagan clic en el enlace de la descripción para comenzar su viaje de aprendizaje de un nuevo idioma. Mark: No hay momento como el presente.
I am suddenly very concerned by the colors chosen to represent each continent in the Olympic rings a 2:47. It seems the only color which was actually picked for no particular reason was green.
That Rosetta Stone spot was a bloody masterpiece.
Yes... it’s the first time I have willingly and eagerly watched an embedded advert from start to finish... and thoroughly enjoyed it!!
@@johnlacey3857 you should look at more ads made by this channel, most of them are pure gold
@@MihkelKukk Agreed... Jay and Mark are pure gold!
@@johnlacey3857 They put almost as much effort into the ads as they do the episode. High water mark for online advertising.
Most vids you can skip the paid product placements. Not in a Jay Foreman video though
No, no, no. You're forgetting the true definition of a continent:
A set of territories which give bonus reinforcements per turn in Risk.
Congrats on reaching 69 likes!
Ah yes, stacking literally all of my units in Australia so I could get those sweet 2 bonus units every turn.
true
Asia is the worst continent confirmed
Ukraine is the key to it all!!!
*What continent is Australia in?*
By definition: Australia
Tectonically: Australasia
In the Olympics: Oceania
In football: Asia
In music: Europe
In war : America
correction. in WAR?: Against EMUS.
Oceania have the nicest name out all of them
Hotel: trivago
On maps? We're lucky to be remembered.
The definition of conversation at 0:38 is one of the many, many reasons to love Map Men.
Monty??
Also the difference between contaminate and contaminate.
why did you make me read it? poor Monty :(
Also constantinople
rip monty
All I can confirm is that there is indeed at least 1 continent, and there is the possibility that there are multiple continents
@Tom Simons ᨆ reported. Stop spamming.
MULTIPLE? I'm gonna need a few sources for that
prove it nerd
Europeans before the discovery of Australia, the americas, and antartica.
Eurasioceanamerantafrica
Meanwhile in an alternate universe:
We are the Maps and here is the man.
Man Maps, Man Maps, Man Man Man, Maps Maps
Man Maps*
@@jiddybit thanks for the correction
Have you seen the france episode?
Biology charts be like
@Tom Simons ᨆ this guy spams every video with this link this is the fifth time i see him this week
The fact that jays french is actually accurate makes it a lot funnier
He lived in France for a time (:
@@paradoxmo yeah, nearly a decade I think
He's really boned up on his dog speaking as well! (sorry couldn't help myself!)
And at least they tried to speak spanish, It wasn't flawless but it was good
@@sinaarrgghh604 that pun was ruff.
As a kid who grew up in France, I actually remember they teach “Oceania” as being a real actual proper continent.
EDIT: This comment surprisingly got a lot of visibility, more than I expected. So I guess I might as well give some info and say I was born in late 2002, and it might be interesting to see who was taught what, where and when.
Same in Mexico. For us, "Australia" is just the country.
@@lera_vasi This is how I remember being taught it in the UK too
Spain joins the Oceania gang
@@lera_vasi Same for me in the US. Oh, who am I kidding? We didn't learn anything about any other countries.
Same in italy
Okay jay and tom scott probably know something about the algorithm that we don't lmao
Obviously, how do they keep uploading at the same time
@@BenianausKI It's really not that much of a conspiracy theory. We just both happen to do Mondays at 4pm.
@@JayForeman hi jay ;))
@@JayForeman hi Jay!!!
@@JayForeman coincidence?
The final English-French segment sounded like a Govt of Canada press conference.
C'est vrai!
yes, including the canine part
Or indeed Eurovision.
no it isn't. his quebecois accent is atrocious
Especially the part where the french speaker is saying nonsense.
Missed the obvious joke that the tectonic model has major FAULTS.
gah
Possibly something about drift, too
Oh piss off. Take my like and go away.
@@markcooper-jones7494 How come you don't get any recognition with TH-cam? I hope Jay is sharing the ad revenue.
@@festethephule7553 That's the most english thing i've read in a while.
Mexican here. Born in 1993. Public school. I was taught 6 continents: América, Europa, Asia, África, Oceanía and Antártica. But I was also taught that eurasia can be a thing depending on how you look at it and that América can be divided on 3 sub-continents: North, central and South.
Yee, Brazillian here, and basically same, but it's confusing, sometimes, it's said that the 3 subdivisions of america are in fact separate continents (Due to some cultural aspects and all), and Eurasia/Afro-Eurasia are just a landmass thing
United States here, teachers got fucking pissed at me for daring to mention Oceania for some reason. I was taught NA, SA, AS, EU, Anartic and Anartica
@@itadakitontaro36what I found weird was that they decided to separate Central America into it's own thing when it's basically just a little stretch of mass between Mexico and Colombia and afaik isn't culturally different enough from either to really matter
@@SaloCh It may not be culturally different to the rest of the continent, but still, when talking about political differences, that may be it
America is a continent & an American is from the Continent of America.
Jay's French is quite alright but his French accent is just perfect
Idk his dog is better imo
It's good, not perfect come on.
With an Antoine De Caunes stance
quite alright
@@TorilAzzalini-Machecler, true indeed.
“He speaks English… in French. He is, the most interesting man in the world”
Jay foreman speaking English in a French accent lol
As a native french speaker, I confirm his english-french accent is on point. That's actually quite impressive.
Missed opportunity: "This tectonic definition has some major faults."
i'm not getting it :(
Now you've pointed that one out I'm actually astonished they didn't use it! It's totally on brand!
@@Rodman200818 thanks :))
I’m absolutely furious that we didn’t think of this! Is it too late to go back and film it again? :(
Jay Foreman not at all. In fact I’ll be happy to watch the video again, or several more times if you do manage to think of some other jokes
I’ve only gotten into Map Men and Jay Foreman’s content recently and the seemingly flawless French from Jay took me entirely off guard
I thought Mark said "30 second Armenian," was confused why someone might be Armenian for half a minute.
wait, what did he say?
@@fyu1945 Thirty-Second (32nd)
Because you can't bear knowing that you're Armenian for more than 30 seconds
It was interesting to see the surnames be slowly anglicized.
It's pretty obvious why someone might be Armenian isn't it? No need to be confused about it for 30 seconds.
"Don't worry about the details, we'll figure that out later" did you take it from the actual brexit referendum question?
For those who missed the outstanding alliteration "Complicated culture can't be conveniently cut into clear categories" 3:56
Bof
Can we collectively coherently can the clarity of your clarification?
Ah, the Seven C's I've heard about
In France we learn at school that continents are separated by oceans OR geographical limits such as big mountains (we were taught the Urals defined the eastern boundary of Europe)
And then we have the Alps and other things, that don't separate continents
So is India a continent? How about Chile?
Is western NA a different continent than Eastern NA...the same for SA?
If you define as separated a around by natural oceans or water straights...then there are 4 continents:
Asia/Europe/Africa is one
America is two
Australia (or Oceania) is three
Antarctica is four
Five if you consider Greenland big enough and not part of the American shelf.
Urals considered a border but not Himalayas… lol Europe is not a continent cmon
The problem is that the Urals aren't that big, and India and the rest of Asia should be also separated into different continents because the Himalayas.
The real reason is that Asia and Europe have been different continents from classical times and the Urals just happen to be in the general area.
Because of what you didn't mention in this video I learned that the Arctic is not considered a continent, because there is no landmass above sea level underneath all that ice, unlike Antarctica. Tres bien!
currently*
@@noname_atall saying "currently" implies that there is landmass under the Arctic ice, there is not. At least not any more so than in any ocean. The Arctic is a floating mass of ice. The shallowest part under the Arctic icecap is the Lomonosov Ridge, which has at its shallowest part around 400 meters down to the ocean floor.
@@SwitchAndLever The Arctic is actually a region, beyond just the Arctic Ocean. As well, the Arctic Ocean isn't permanently covered by ice; in the summer melt, it shrinks by about half.
@@WilliamAndrea region ≠ continent, and continents are generally beholden to a landmass, something which the Arctic polar icecap lacks. A floating piece of ice is not land, even though you can step on it and walk around on it. The Arctic region includes areas of several countries on different continents. I should know, I grew up just by the Polar Circle, which is what defines the Arctic region, in the north of Sweden 😄
@@SwitchAndLever Sorry, maybe I wasn't clear. I'm not saying the Arctic is a continent by any means. I was trying to clarify that you wrote "Arctic" in some places where you meant "Arctic Ocean" and that there's no ice cap per se on the Arctic Ocean. There's a pack of sea ice, but it's impermanent. On the other hand, Greenland does have an ice cap (technically an ice "sheet", I just found out), which is in the Arctic.
We New Zealanders have decided that due to the fact that NZ seems to be missing from most maps (including the ones at the back in the intro) we will claim our own continent Zealandia. We figure no one will notice. We’ve even got the geologists on board, and a Wikipedia entry. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zealandia
Good for you. 😄❤️
If Australia can pretend to be a continent rather than an island, I don't see why New Zealand shouldn't.
Just dump something heavy on the other end of your tectonic plates to lift zealandia up out of the water :p
@@000Dragon50000 hey! as a Chilean I will kindly ask Zealanders to not do that :c
That needed to be New Zealandia....
You are part of Oceania.
Mapmen is the only channel I watch the sponsorship, as well as oversimplified
InternetHistorian's and Graystillplays' ones are great too.
@@thescooshinator used to enjoy watching Greys content but when he started changing his content I stopped watching about 4 years ago. Miss his long dark series
Try Lindybeige
The word "only" is awfully misused here.
@@rare80 shut the fuck up. It ain't a bloody grammar test
In Russian there's a term "part of the world" that's used for anywhere distinctive enough. So Russian geography pretty much takes the 'landmasses separated by water' approach for its definition of a continent. But Europe and Asia are still considered different "parts of the world".
Exactly the same in Netherland: werelddeel - world part
@@giselavaleazar8768we have 2 things
1)Wereld deel - world part
2)Continent
They count is different depending on which 1 you are speaking about because for continent the americas combine and asia/europe becomes eurasia
"Black chosen at random" "Yellow for no particular reason" Hol' Up
It's a nice joke, but unfortunately it's *mostly* a myth. The IOC did define it that way for a brief period in the late 1940's, but it was dropped after nobody could find any evidence the creator of the flag intended it that way. Since then the colours have not been tied to any particular continents.
“Red for North America “ meaning Native Americans
So, basically the power rangers model?
@@Croz89 the official choice of those colors is that one or more of those colors are found on every country flag in the world.
@@LandoBando-pj5ox
the north of america doesnt get its own ring.
ALL of america gets ONE ring.....and if it's based on skin tone, then that ring would be brown, as most americans are brown.
Part of the reason that Europe is a separate continent is because historically it was nigh impossible (by land) to get to Asia via land due to the mountains and sea
Note: the continents were drawn by Ancient Greece, Russia and Spain.
Other note: the Silk Road did not exist in Ancient Greece’s time.
That’s a brilliant fact, and I wish we’d explored it in this video.
Nonsense. It was barely possible because of political reasons. The Northern route was complicated because the mongol and tatar empires roamed free there. The Southern route through modern Turkey was blocked by the Persians and later the Islamic empires.
But all these areas are not blocked by mountains or sea. You can get to Central Asia(!) via Russia fast, and you can get to Persia easily too. In fact, the sea actually makes Asia more accessible.
@@lupen_rein because the inhospitable steppes and frozen tundra could not hold back people
@@lupen_rein i'd like to see you walk from france to china.
@@lowlsqwid We are civilized now. We take trains. Which you can do, you can go by rail from Portugal to South Vietnam in a single trip (transfers not withstanding), through Russian, Mongolia and China, among other train routes between the two continents. And as you should know, trains don't really like very steep angles, which means before the age of trains and cars, there were considerably flat and walkable routes, on foot and horseback, between the two "continents". Probably the same ones the Mongols used to harass people all the way up to Germany, a thing that did happen.
Jay brushing his hair back is like when Zooey Deschanel doesn’t have bangs. A totally new person
Where does he brush his hair back?
@@LurkerPatrol On the top of the podium in the Olympics scene, for one
I had to Google "zooey deschanel no bangs" xD
what the heck
@@tempestive1 now you’ll never sleep the same
Back when I was in elementary school (US) in the late '50s we were taught that the division between Europe and Asia were the Ural Mountains then down to the Caspian Sea, west along the southern border of what is now Georgia, across the Black Sea, and down through the Bosphorus. The Urals are also a major dividing line between Russian provinces/state/subdivisions.
Amazing that you remember the specifics of a geography lesson that you had 70 years ago.
@@misteruhl4575 It's a pretty common definition, including outside the U.S. He wouldn't have heard it only in that class.
There are only two continents:
- Antarctica
- Australiafroeurasiamerica
In theory theres 4: America, Africaneurasia, Australia and Antarctica
So basically it's the place that inhabited by human and the place that aren't?
3. USA
@@fullmetalboomer8089 I'd guess they're referring to submerged land bridges.
Afroeurasia (1st Human Frontier) -> Polystralia (2nd Human Frontier ca. 50k bc) & the Americas (3rd Human Frontier - ca. 15k bc) -> Antarctica (the Lost Continent)
Honestly, if you're cutting by culture, Asia needs some more cuts...
*coughs in indian subcontinet*
Middle east and North Africa aswell
@@NuclearTopSpot *coughs in Indonesia*
Middle-East continent
Indian continent
Southeast Asia continent
East Asia continent
Central-North-Caucassian-Asia continent
@@michaelnajoan5104 nahh SEA pretty similiar
5:40 If UK sends Jay Foreman to the Eurovision Song Content, there will be no doubt that UK will finish first. Petition to send Jay Foreman to ESC 2022.
Jay Foreman x Bill Bailey. It will be glorious.
I last watched that depressing abomination in 1985. I had no idea whatsoever that we were still doing that.
do you think the UK wants to win the eurovision?! if they did, they'd try to send good songs!
@@ethanbennett7 sure but trying to win might help you win
They could sing one sentence in every European language and one in Dog. Cats may feel a bit left out though.
I was always taught that continents were basically down to tectonic plates. Then we were taught that some countries were lumped in with the nearest one
The Swedish has two words translated as "continents": "kontinenter" and "världsdelar"
"kontinenter" are the 4 landmasses Afro-Eurasia, America, Antarctica and Australia
"världsdelar" are the 6 political regions of Africa, Europe, Asia, Oceania, South America and North America
that's so interesting
That makes sense.
In Indonesia school Only one America or Americas
North america
Caribbean
Central america and
South America
same in Norway!
Wow :o
The Swedish and Norwegian texts say: "Do not eat this. If you accidentally eat it, consult a doctor."
Edit: the turkish Text at 4:26 say (according to Google Translate):
Here you go. Here I am.
Uncle Moe!
Thank you, Madam
This will be a gift.
Uncle Moe!
I'm here while you eat.
Same with the Vietnamese text?
Thanks I was going to google that
Vietnamese myself, can confirm
It's the same in Vietnamese just in a very arkward overtly formal tone.
I suppose that's a useful phrase to know.
Let’s Dancing Funky is a classic. Should definitely be the Armenian national anthem.
Wait... It isn't???
Not quite as good as Super Sexy Time Tonight.
@@JoeBleasdaleReal I Have Love in My Pockets if You Have Time in Yours!
As an Armenian I wouldn’t mind
this is the only channel where I don't skip the adverts... I even pause them if I have to do something.
I both love and hate that the “Map Men” jingle at the beginning is off-beat
Not that Jay is an expert in singing a beat out of sync or anything :D
this one was worse than normal too lmao
I have to believe they are doing it intentionally for maximum quirkiness.
You took the best intro to any show ever, and ruined it
It's great!
No, he isn't an expert at singing one beat out of sync. What he is an expert at, however, is singing one syllable out of sync...
There's only 1 continent. It just has a large lake making navigation difficult.
@vbddfy euuyt i dont think you got the joke there
the "large lake" whittering's talking about is the Pacifc/Atlantic/Indian Ocean.
By definition a lake must be surrounded by land tho, and the oceans aren't.
Correct, there is only 1 continent, Ameri-Afro-Euras-Oceani-Antarctica
@@azaria_phd It's a pond then.
@@azaria_phd If you count the oceans as one big lake, it is surrounded by land.
"Don't worry about the details, we'll figure it out later." (on the Brexit ballot, 6:00)
Seem historically accurate to me.
We still haven't figured it out.
@@TalesOfWar If you had figured it out, you wouldn't have left.
The giant space scissors part is only slightly an exaggeration for burning centuries of diplomatic goodwill, halving a country's entire food supply, ditching whole industries (hello mussels producers), upsetting Irish nationalists again, and tossing any influence on European matters to the bin.
@@TalesOfWar By any time soon?
@@leogama3422 They can't even work out if they've been to any parties or not so god help us on this.
In Slovakia we learn two different types Continens and Terra firma(Világrész). Continens is Europe, Asia , Africa, America, Australia and Oceania(This is 1), Antartica.
Terra Firma is Eurasia, Africa, North America, South America, Australia and Oceania, Antartica.
One is with tectonic plates and one is with cultural.
You didn't even mention the issue of how 'large' a landmass has to be in order to be a continent!
Greenland is a continet Change my mind.
@@ipadair7345 No, greenland is a clickbaiter, so it doesn't deserve the status of continent
@@potatoesandducks958 what about Madagascar, Borneo, Java, Britain, Ireland, The Main island in Cuba, Newfoundland, Baffin Island,
@@ipadair7345 Those aren't clickbaiters, so they do have a chance of receiving the status of continent
@@potatoesandducks958 Thats nice to hear :)
Edit: *see, I'm reading comments
''But complicated culture can't be conveniently cut into clear catecories'' ; Another alliteration sneakilly but brilliantly put in!
I love these, keep it going please!
Another alliteration adeptly assembled, all adverbs and adjectives are adequately articulated and admirably announced, an astoundingly amazing achievement!
"Speaking as someone who's a 32nd Armenian, where do you think these eyebrows come from?"
Good point, my friend
I want to breed with you
Ayo what the fuck?
@@cryptic_shock lol
Why are you everywhere ?
Are you even a real person ?
Yeah I heard it as “30 second Armenian”
Like he was just chilling in Armenia for 30 seconds and then left
In Mexico we call the continent that you guys call Australia, Oceania. I was very confused when I learned English and they referred to Australia as a continent until I learned about how different places have a different number of continents
Same in Argentina, I always called it Oceania (Australia, New Zealand, Papua and smaller sorrounding islands).
@@coderdbd We call it Oceania too (in NZ), but not as a "continent" - the Australian landmass is the only continent around here. Basically, Oceania means the South Pacific region - the parts that aren't otherwise in Asia. 🙂
As an Australian there was absolutely no reason for my country to enter Eurovision
SBS is in the EBU, which is the only criterion for entry.
In any case, Europe only exists as a cultural distinction from Asia, which is also more or less true of us in Australia. We’re a southeast Asian island that’s culturally separate from the rest of Southeast Asia so we are basically European.
As an Australian the single reason against the swathe of reasons FOR joining Eurovision is the first four letters of the show's name.
If they called it 'Camp Pop Song Bangers' Australia would have joined decades ago.
@@gormster true, but with that criteria Qatar can join Eurovision.
@@eavocado5890pppj I wonder why they haven’t…
@@gormster there were talks about joining, but nothing came of it.
This is a partially less difficult issue in Swedish, where we distinguish between kontinent (continent) and världsdel (part of the world). Eurasia, sometimes afroeurasia, is considered a continent while europe, asia, and africa are considered parts of the world.
Very interesting!
Here in Finland they teach about continents like Eurasia and subcontinents such as Europe and Asia. And those can further be split into regions, such as the Middle East, South Asia or Central Europe. Tectonics are taught separately.
Same in Dutch
"Regions of the world" is a lot more useful of a term. There's no use in grouping Italy, Scotland and Spain with China, Japan and Vietnam into a single continent - but there's also no way to defend Europe is a continent as we understand it. It's not even like Africa, that is connected only by a small peninsula. Europe is indistinguishable from Asia if you didn't already know it's supposed to be a continent.
... and same in Norwegian. (That's not to say there's NO confusion. But still less.
If Europe gets to be a separate continent because of culture, then the rest of "Asia" should be split up as well. Sweden is culturally closer to Norway than Vietnam, yes, but Sweden is still closer to Syria than Syria is to Vietnam.
@@hi-ve1cw This is very fair
is'nt Asia split? sub continent, Southeast Asia and Asia?
@@hi-ve1cw That's interesting, but I think central asia should be viewed as the fifth big area of eurasia. I guess it has been influenced by europe, the middle east and east Asia depending on where you are, but I still don't see a siberian or a turkmenistani being part of any of the other groups
@@hi-ve1cw what about Southeast Asia, Central Asia and North Asia (Mongolic and Turkic cultures of Siberia, as well as minority indigenous siberian people)?
@@hi-ve1cw disagree. Mongolian steppe people culture is quite distinct. There’s a reason why Imperial China was never quite able to absorb them into their empire proper. South East Asia being classified as a mixture of South and East Asia is also painfully generalising, considering the Austronesian who dominate the area have long and deep history, as well as cultural root. In classification, these regions are genetically, linguistically and culturally distinct enough that classifying them into South or East Asia seems very wonky. There’s also the fact that today there are 400 millions Austronesian living in the region, classifying them as a mix of South and East Asia is generalising 400 millions people. Then there’s the problem that these cultures influenced each other, so pointing out “cradle of civilisation” is very arbitral.
One really big bit of continental cultural confusion is Mexico. Mexico is part of North America, but is culturally much closer to its neighbors in South America than either of the other North American nations, a point that some people have used to argue against the distinction between North and South America.
Where is the confusion? Being on the same continent does not mean you have to share anything culturally. Continent is a geographical term and has nothing to do with culture. Mexico is in North America or in the Americas.
@@alexskatit4188 did you watch the video? There was a cultural argument for continent (they were speaking of Europe/Asia countries)
@@LiqdPT Did you understand my post???? I was addressing the North America "confusion".
@@alexskatit4188 yes, and while I agree Mexico is in North American, many people forget that the Central American countries are as well. Culturally both of those are more similar to South America. And I was pointing out that there can be a cultural argument made for a dividing line since geographic lines aren't nearly as clear cut as many make them out to be.
@@LiqdPT I never said that a cultural argument could not be made. After all it is used in Eurasia. The case is less convincing when it comes to the Americas since these cultural lines are recent creations. Using that, Quebec would be a separate continent and the Caribbean would be a mess of continents. In the Americas, the geographical divide is the most appropriate.
At school I wasn't really taught the continents as a clear-cut geographic term, just as a handy way to divide the world into slightly more manageable sections. Hence I was taught Oceania as a continent, because it's just a useful term for that whole part of the world. So what counts as a continent really just depends on what's convenient for you in conversation, which is obviously going to vary around the world.
Is Mark singing the intro out of beat a reference to Jay's school recital?
Surely it's therefore Jay singing 1 syllable out?
@@Diamondman164 Thus making it a reference to Jay's series of singing songs with the lyrics one beat behind the music. It's very clever and somewhat disorientating, which makes me feel rather stupid and, erm, disorientated, which is why I don't listen to them.
Doesn’t he sing one syllable out of sync, so in this case shouldn’t he be more like
Map Men Map Men Map Map Map Men
Map Men Map Men Map Map Map Men
Instead of
Map Men Map Men Map Map Map Men
Map Men Map Men Map Map Map Men
Mark is one syllable out of sync, Jay is two syllables out. The previous one (or before i dunno) had the both of them a syllable out of sync.
Seems like they know people are anticipating how will they do to the intro now, since they did the extra 'men'
In Brazil we are taught that the continents are: Africa, America, Antarctica, Asia, Europe and Oceania. By our system Russia is part of Europe, United States and Canada are both an indivisible part of the American continent, that despite Morocco being a colony of Spain it belongs to the African continent, and that Amerigo Vespucci (from which the American continent name derives) never stepped in the United States, nor did Cristoforo Colombo.
Very interesting so why you think africa & asia aren’t one continent?
Actually here in Russia we have two different terms: 'continent' and 'materik' (mainland). First one relies on culture, second one - on the teсtonic plates, so continents are Africa, Australia (and Oceania), Antarctica, Europe, Asia and America. Mainlands are again Africa, Australia (and Oceania), Antarctica, but also Eurasia, South America and North America.
But by that logic shouldn't india be a separate continent?
We have similar thing in Czechia - officially we recognize 5 "kontinentů" (Americas, Eurasia, Antarctica, Oceania/Australia, Africa), but 7 "světadílů" (splitting Americas and Eurasia).
However in casual conversations these terms are often used interchangeably
Teutonic plates? What do platters have to do with continents? (Yes, obviously I know what was meant)
@@vedritmathias9193 xD haven't even noticed that typo, thx
@@parker4406 Yes but no, teсtonic plates also should be divided by water mostly. So if India does not have huge land connection with Eurasia it can be separate continent.
"Complicated culture can't be conveniently cut into clear categories" said with a British accent is just ironic
*ruler intensifies*
@@aysenur6761 I just cackled this is a hilarious comment
Middle East Geography intensifies.
did someone say straight lines?
@@aysenur6761 in both senses of the word!
Fun fact, the more west you go in Turkey, the more "Western" people tend to be. The more East you go, the more (Middle) "Eastern" they tend to be culturally. Especially popular touristic places are primarily in the west.
Thx captain obvious
One thing i wonder about; since when is Istanbul where east meets west? I read Baya Ganyo, a Bulgarian book set around 1880, and it describes the main character coming back from Vienna as "He came back from Europe".
Where did Europe end during Ottoman times? And where did it end in Byzantine times?
@@TijmenvandenHeuvel it was more of a cultural thing than geographical. Basically wherever europeans were the majority and had an established elite class that's where Europe was. During the medieval times , most likely people didn't thought that the Eurasian Steppe stretching all the way to the Ural mountains was a part of Europe
@@TijmenvandenHeuvel Roughly speaking, for both cases, the answer is "up until greek was spoken". The anatolian peninsula was full of Greeks up until the great population exchange of the 1920s after the collapse of the Ottoman empire.
but the further south you go in Florida, the less South it is
Another, more classic, approach is to combine the idea that the count should be the magical number like 3, 7 or 13, with the ancient Greek conntinents: Europe, Asia and Africa. As this is already 3 and doesn't include continents around Roanoke, Sydney and the South Pole, the next option is 7 continents. So the original 3 plus Antarctica, Australia, the Pacific plate, South, Central and North America, so need to merge some to get back to 7. Traditional solutions include considering Antarctica and Australia a single "South Continent" named Australia, merging the 3 Americas to only 2 or 1, and merging the Pacific islands into nearby dry continents. But doing all those options would leave only 5, so that's eliminating too many.
The intro keeps getting more chaotic, I love it
who wouldnt
In Ukraine we’ve been taught about “continents” (Eurasia, Australia, North and South America, Africa and Antarctica) and “world parts” (Europe, Asia, America, Australia and Oceania, Antarctica, Africa). And it is strictly forbidden to mix that concepts...
This is a good distinction - still, what's the basis for those 6 continents I wonder?
@@markcooper-jones7494 same stuff about tectonic plates, and world parts is more like regions that includes continents and islands
But Asia is a bad "world part", it's at least divided into three areas: West Eurasia, South Asia and East Asia (also Siberia or North Asia but that's like Antarctica: no fireworks allowed).
@@markcooper-jones7494 - They are large landmasses mostly surrounded by oceans (and in rare cases joined to others by a minuscle isthmus, conveniently bored to make a man-made canal).
Thank you!!! I remember being taught that as well, coming from Slovakia. But apparently the only one who remembers it, bcs I later talked to my friends and they all thought I was crazy for thinking "kontinent" and "svetadiel" are 2 different concepts. I've started to doubt myself. Vindication!
I think we need to just appreciate how amazing it is that Mark Cooper-Jones is named that because an ancestor named Kooperj married someone with the name Oanes, and it became Kooper-Jones, it wasn't just the fusion of the names Cooper and Jones. That is fascinating.
thats how combined surnames work
@@jaestive not really
Don't forget - he's got Raisins blood in him. I thought that was fascinating
And also Rice blood
I am from Argentina and In school geography are taught 6 Continents (America, Europe, Asia, Africa, Oceania and Antarctica). If I'm not mistaken, it is also taught in the rest of Latin America, Spain, Italy, France and some other European country. It seems to me that the concept of 7 continents is from the Anglo-Saxon countries (United States, UK, Australia, etc.)
Not in Italy or France, 7 continents
@@commonomics not a surprise europeans are usually united statians and british suckers....
Interesting choices to combine the Americas as one continent but Europe and Asia separate.
@@commonomics 6 continenti. Il continente è un grande pezzo di terra che ha intorno l'acqua. I continenti sono: l'Europa, l'Asia, l'Africa, l'Oceania, le Americhe e l'Antartide. I continenti sono molto estesi e sono formati da tante placche.
@@OldDistantHermit
America is a continent!
If not, then what is America?
4:54 I like how dramatic the sound effect is.
fun fact: the vietnamese text in 3:53 says :
"Don't eat this. If you accidentally eat it, call the doctor."
@@Drabkikker
I knew it- This confirms that Vietnamese is technically a long-lost Scandinavian/North Germanic language
@@Drabkikker DANISH???? I’M OFFENDED
Wow, did you learn that on Rosetta Stone?
They all say it
Completely missed the opportunity to say “this tectonic definition has some major faults”
AAAAARRRRGH!!!!! I’M ABSOLUTELY FURIOUS WE DIDN’T THINK OF THAT!!!!! 😡
@@JayForeman :D
@@JayForeman I've never seen Jay this angry before.
@@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 He couldn't bear the fact that Mark understood French, and that he was Armenian for more than 30 seconds
OMG Jay perfected the French accent both in French and English!
"Culture!" he says, while holding a container of yogurt, a snack containing a live bacterial culture.
Im not the only one who thought the same thing?
Genius
That's 🙏 the 🙏 joke
uuh I missed that!
Lol
As someone who watches quite a bit of youtube, I can comfortably say that that was the best sponsorship advert that I have ever seen
I spent the whole video waiting for the expected "in-continent" joke to drop.
When it finally did, I was so relieved.
At 7:20 I realised how much Rosetta Stone was helping me with French. I understood every word.
This "map men" jingle was the wrongest one so far.
This one was very hard to listen to
The rightest one was the one that ended with “men, men men… men”
@@TheLegend2T Still my favorite one is Hommes cartes, hommes cartes, hommes cartes, cartes, cartes
@@rockonileva
Would “homens mapas, homens mapas, mapas mapas mapas homens homens… homens” work?
Or would that sound too weird?
@@coyotelong4349 Hahahahahhaha I laughed so loud singing this now!!!!! It's kiiinda weird but mostly because of the nonsensical humor of this..but it works!
Eg.. Birdman is translated into Portuguese as Homem Passaro
5:38 accurate description of how Britain usually performs at Eurovision
unironically better than Embers
Last time UK did well in Eurovision was... let me check, ah yes! 2017 with Lucie Jones.
When you put zero effort in it's not terribly surprising
Eurovision is a joke anyway
Eurovision is pretty much a formality for a lot of countries, just send some rando and get drunk watching
The only channel whose product placements I actually watch...
Using the term Eurasia in Russia is also culturally useful because there is a certain cross over in Russia. I am originally from Novosibirsk, a city nearer to Mongolia and China than to Moscow. But there are cities further east including Vladivostok which is actually further east than China. Yet these cities are European in culture, demographics and language. So Eurasia makes it easier.
the existence of Vladivostok always blew my mind. Siting right next to North Korea, but it's considered European city with European people.
They're European in culture, demographics and language because of...
colonisation.
european in a very basic understanding of the word
@@kwcy92
Not really colonisation when it is just part of a big continuous landmass
@@KevinKickChannel Being continuous doesn't make it not colonisation. Russians eliminated the indigenous people and cultures then replace them with a settler society. It's the definition of settler colonisation.
6:41 finally, a few lines I can fully understand, being a french Baguette
It makes sense to me to treat land strips that are “narrow enough” (isthmuses) as continent boundaries. I try to be critical towards what was taught to me in school but still the definition used in Japanese textbooks feels natural. It’s also fine to follow the “continuous landmass” definition more literally. At least geographically speaking.
If you incorporate cultural aspects, that one region called Asia is internally too varied I feel like. Are Japan and Saudi Arabia that similar culturally? Cultural boundaries are certainly vague so whatever definition is fine as long as it is appropriate for what is discussed at given time, but as a default general‐purpose definition, “Europe and the others” kind of separation looks a bit ... Eurocentric ... maybe?
Edit: According to Japanese Wikipedia, geographical continents (大陸; normally there are 6 of them) and cultural continents (大州; the number varies by definition) are different concepts in Japanese and called differently. When I heard “continents” I just thought of the former but here we are talking about both.
I'm from the US not Japan, so I wasn't taught this in school, but what you're saying makes perfect sense. I don't think you're lacking in critical-ness towards your education; the Japanese just have it right in this case.
"Cultural" definition is really just old Roman Bullshit 2.0: Electric boogaloo. Version 1.0 The Greeks already started dividing their known world into 3, Europe (more or less everything in the mainland mass west of themselves), Asia (everything to the east), and Lybia (basically africa/everything south of the Mediterranean sea that wasn't Asia). Romans more or less copy this, which kinda also influences the later split into West and East Roman empires. Then the Empire decentralizes and mutates into a weird religious thing some people call a collapse (weird collapse where the culture, religion, language and other bullshit of the "conquered" people dominates the "winners", but this is a derailment for another time), but the bullshit notion endures.
Then West Rome descendants & friends i.e. the Euros discovered what other people had already discovered millennia ago, the "new" world, and named it after one of her own whose name was already a Latin related name, the Americas (one, two or three, who cares). Then they went searching for the theorized southern continent, found what became better known today as Australia, and lumped all the islands they didn't know about and weren't too close to Asia, basically Oceania = the rest. Then they found the actual Terra Australis, but they already imposed that name on another landmass, so they figured "well, there is the arctic, this sits in the opposite side so... it is the ant(i)arctic, so the continent must be Antarctica, to keep on with the Latinate theme."
TL;DR - "Culture" here is really European/ancient Greco-Roman biased self centred horseshit people still somehow get bamboozled by.
@@louisvictor3473 Many people still believed a polar 'Terra Australis' existed after the 'discovery' of Australia, specifically because Australia isn't polar, and because of the crews of HMS Revolution and Adventure witnessing the coastline in the 1770s. It wasn't until the early 19th century that the argument was made to name then New Holland 'Australia', with the argument being that even if a polar land mass existed, it surely wouldn't be bigger than Australia (oops). So, despite being wrong, Australia took the name. Geographers and cartographers who still (correctly) believed a large polar continent existed no longer had a name they could use for it. Thus, they used "the Antarctic continent" as a placeholder while a new name was considered. Ultimately, over the many decades of debate for the new name (appox 80 years) no agreement or consensus ever formed and "the antarctic" had become so ingrained in common usage that when John Bartholomew coined 'Antarctica' people were like, "yeah, that'll do".
Interestingly, the word 'Arctic' comes from the Greek for 'bear' and refers to the Ursa constellations you can see there, so you can say not only does Antarctic mean 'opposite Arctic', it also means 'opposite bears' and *coincidentally* of the two polar regions, the Arctic has polar bears and the Antarctic doesn't. So, it really came full circle and ends up being a pretty good set of names, imo.
This it's because of Greeks and Persians, Romans, Troy and European power. You'll see, Greeks and Romans always differentiate themselves from minor Asia. To them, they were the manly society and anything to the east was weakly Asia. They don't even know for certain the difference between all the Asian cultures and they only acknowledged that they were not Asians for sure. That's the idea that created the European mindset. Then the Latin Europeans discovered America (named after an Latin European explorer in behalf of an Latin European country) that's why we do not consider America to be separated continents. Since we shared the same culture and history with Europe
I think the only two reasonable definitions for geographical continents are the Japanese 6-continent or the 4-continent definition.
Lol this is why I don't skip sponsored parts of videos! You really put great effort into them!
Whenever these two come together, a comedic miracle is born
The Rosetta Stone advert starts off sounding like some kind of Canadian federal announcement.
In Brazil I learned 6 continents: Europe, Asia, Oceania, Antarctica, Africa and America (subdivided into North, Central and South America)
Here in Argentina it's pretty much the same, maybe it's that way in all Latin America.
Saudações irmão brasileiro!
Same here in Argentina
Same in colombia
It's also "indian subcontinent" and "middle east" as subdivisions of Asia.
it was weird when they said that in south america they teach "Eurasia" is a continent.
MON AMI that frenchmen speaking english bit was scarily accurate.
the accent game was on point!! well played
Dear Jay and Mark. I love your videos. I love them so much. Please divest your calendar of all extraneous commitments (family, work, fun etc) and just make videos all day every day. Many thanks, Pete.
Actually, Antarctica is in fact displayed in the Olympics' rings. The only problem is that's it is represented through a white circle, rendering it invisible.
Edit 1: omg guys thx for 1 like!!!
Edit 2: omg guys thx for 2 likes!!1!1!
Edit 3: no way i just got 3 likes, thx guys!!!!
Edit 4: okay this is the best day of my life, 4 likes???
Edit 5: wowww thanks for 5 likes guys!!!!
Edit 6: yooo 6 likes??? Amazing
Edit 7: wtffff omg 7 likes!!! Thx all
Edit 8: no way i just hit 8 likes!!! Thanks guys!!!
Edit 9: okay, this is epic. 9 likes??? Wtfff
Edit 10: Wow! I've never hit 10 likes!!!! Thankssss
Edit 11: 11 likes??? Best day of my life
Edit 12: wait 12 likes already? Whaaat
Edit 13: yoo 13 likes omggg thxxxx
Edit 14: now this! 14 likes? I think i'll quit my job to become a professional yt commenter
Edit 15: dude wtf 15 likes???? Epic
Edit 16: omg 16 likes loool
Edit 17: thanks for 17 likes everyone!!
Edit 18: no way i got 18 likes!!!! Thxxxx
Edit 19: wtfff 19 likes??? Thanks y'all!
Edit 20: wait how did i get 20 likes????!!?!?!?! Thank you guys!!!
Edit 21: o m g. 21 likes?????????????????????????
Edit 22: dude how am i getting so many likes, i just hit 22. thx all!
Edit 23: yoooo 23 likes gang!! when am i getting a call from famousbirthdays.com???
Edit 24: 24 likes in less than 1 hour? epic!
Edit 25: thanks everyone for 25 likes :)
Edit 26: ayyyyy 26 likes!!! thx you guys
Edit 27: okay okay guys chill, 27 is more than i've ever had!!
Edit 28: hey everyone i just wanted to thank you for your support, i think i'll open a patreon!
Edit 29: omgggg 29 likes??? no way!1!!1111
Edit 30: now this is epic! okay guys if we hit 50 likes i'll do part 2!!!!!!!!!
Edit 31: wooowwwww 31 likes?!?!?!?!?! thank youuu
Edit 32: also follow me on twitter @ics_de
Edit 33: sorry i meant to say yoooo thanks for 33 likes!!
Edit 34: wtfff 34 likes?? i'm telling my mom!
Edit 35: no way i just hit 35 likes in the same comment
Edit 36: dude i get 35 likes, but 36??? this is the best day ever
Edit 37: well guys i just sent an email to jay foreman to join mapmen cuz i think i'm more popular than them
Edit 38: alright now we talking thx for 38 likes!!!!
Edit 39: yoooo we just hit 39 likes!! thanks all!111
Edit 40: 40 likes?? amazing. what can i say, thank you!
Genius
@Danito FG it’s around them!!
@@PokoTheDinosaur Yes just like the flat earth Antactica does in real life :-)
@Danito FG It could be behind them.
what happens when they print the Olympics ring on a non-white background?
In Brazil, people are taught that there are 6 continents, not 5. The 6 continents taught there are the ones shown at 3:17.
This channel is great, As much as I like the videos and the topics - I really lose my mind on the commercials I wish I had a product I would totally sponsor you guys. 😂
The English Eurovision entry as "Will This Do?" had me literally laughing out loud. This newest video has not disappointed! (After all, it IS Map Men.)
I love how Jay literally put in "Don't eat this. If you did, please contact your doctor." in all 3 languages in 3:53
Oh, I just forgot that not everyone speaks Vietnamese and assumed they also got what was written there. Thank you for your services.
In México the 5 (got teached as 5 but i think they say are 6 now) are América, África, Europa, Asia and Oceanía. The sixth one is Antártica, but i don't know if it's teached as such or not.
Also, North and South America are considered as subdivisions rather than different continents, the same way you don't call SEA its own continent
totally agree, big mistake they made
The exact same in Peru, I've no idea where they got that Eurasia was in the general curriculum in Latin America.
Why combine N&S America but separate Europe and Asia?
À la fin de la vidéo, Jay prononce les mots en français vraiment presque comme les Français. Bravo à Jay! 👏🇫🇷
Et les mots anglais vraiment presque comme les Français 😂😂😂
Cgp grey fans are going to be feeling deja vu when they watch this.
Can confirm, I did, except I thought Map Men already did a video on this
@@andreas98welsch i though it was a reupload
@@Rigger-bx1zq Wait... this isn't a re-upload?
I was thinking that too
Same with the "Who Owns Antarctica?
" episode
Pretty much what separates Europe from Asia culturally is that they’re “Europe” and “Not-Europe”.
But what unifies Europe in the first place culturally?
@@RyuakiraX it used to be Christianity. But Albania and Bosnia are now Muslim and lots of countries have become irreligious. What unifies Europe is just just the feeling that Europe exists.
@@francogiobbimontesanti3826
We live "above" the Mediterranean too ☝️😕
Yes. I think that being aware of the various definitions does matter. Defining Europe as a separate continent seems... Eurocentric.
@@RyuakiraX Roman Empire?
THE MAP MEN IS GIVING ME ANXIETY 😦
The song offsetting 🤯
Canon like Bach!
Also the intro speech seems a bit fast too.
Jass
just don't take it from them then lol
Your writing is so good. The line about continental breakfast... 👌🏻
I remember on my way back to London hearing a lady in her 60s tell her friend "I'm in Europe, dear, I'll call you back soon" and I was thinking "You'll be in Europe still, m'am". And then everyone around me speaking about leaving Europe. I believe some really thought there would be some giant scissors involved somehow.
(Also, thank you for your French and French accent, that warmed my French heart!)
They SHOULD leave Europe! Honestly, after Britain has been such a pain in the butt about the Union for so long, I don't want them on the continent anymore.
@@catfish552 I'd agree with you if I didn't leave on the island myself. I want to stay in the continent 😭
@@catfish552 Scotland can stay though :)
They should do an episode called Flag Men where they discuss the flags of the world and all the weird and obscure ones.
Sheldon Cooper already did that :)
I'm waiting for next April's episode of Mop Men
This notion has me vexed
yessss pleasee!!
Have you heard of Geography Now? Goes through every country starting with a discussion of the flag!
In germany we learn:
-Europe
-Asia
-North America
-South America
-Africa
-Austrailia/Oceanian
-Antarktica
Same here in Australia! We have Europe/Asia/Africa/South America/North America/Antarctica/Oceania or Australasia
Same here in the US.
Same here for us brits...
This is how they teach it in Latin America:
America
Europe
Asia
Africa
Antarctica
Oceania
The Americas are considered one continent, composed of four regions: North, South, Center and the Caribbean.
And then you have the ability in some Germanic lamguages to merge both North- and South- America into one continent as America.
It's mostly used when speaking as it's nowadays a bit too broad of a definition.
2 years later and somehow the ad read for Rosetta Stone is still as good as the rest of the video 😂 c’est fantastique
In Brazil I learned that there were 8 continents:
North America, Central America, South America, Africa, Europe, Asia, Oceania and Antarctica
in El Salvador i learned that all the Americas are one continent divided on 3 subcontinents
I was taught that there were only 7, also from brazil.
@@phoenix1026 Maybe It is a state thing, I don't really see normal people talk about Central America, I only learned it on Elementary school
in the US we got told that there was only two American continents, but because of regional/cultural differences there are the 3 subsection of North, Central, and South Americas.
I like the idea of just considering America one thing (purely geographic) or, for practical terms like the separation of Asia and Europe, in three. North and South America make little cultural sense, having a middle man in Central America/Caribbean sorts that out and helps the already uses “North America” as a synonym for Anglo America.
And here in Slovakia, we have two different words for "continent" - one with the geographical meaning and one with the political meaning. They both count up to 6, though, because the former lists North America separate from South America and then Eurasia, while the latter lists just America and then Europe and Asia separately. Don't ask ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Same in Russia. Continents and "parts of light" (or world if you want).
but geographically america is a single continent....
@@sabin97 they are barely even connected, makes perfect sense, the real issue is grouping Europe and Asia together politically, although that can probs be attributed to the fact that Slovakia and Estonia were part of the soviet Union and have some funky stuff going on like they explained about Russia in the video
@@vikingursigurdsson
america is a single continent. no amount of wishful thinking or hand weaving will change that.
@@gdefuykjds then you were taught wrong. it's never too late to fix it.
In south America we do teach Europe and Asia as different continents.
yes, we learn about the confusion either to consider Europe, Asia and Africa separate continents too and that other countries consider another configurations. We have the concept of subcontinents as Indian, East Asian, Middle East, Subsaharian Africa, Central America, Caribbean, etc. to include cultural differences
Yet you, for some reason, combine North and South America.
@@justinbell7309 cause of panamericanism wich is realler than you might think. If you wanted to separate the continent culturally it would be betwen Latinoamerica and Angloamerica wich is not a geographical definition at all considering Belice, Jamaica, Quebec, South Texas, South Florida, etc...
@@justinbell7309 it is logical, what in the world separates America?
@@matyfenixcarmine What in the world separates Afroeurasia?
7:50 correct translation/adaption to spanish _(from a native spanish speaker)_
Jay: Así que hagan clic en el enlace de la descripción para comenzar su viaje de aprendizaje de un nuevo idioma.
Mark: No hay momento como el presente.
I'm surprised this has a whole section on New Zealand but doesn't mention the sunken Zealandia continent.
Zealandia shall rise again!
It's not entirely sunken. The country of New Zealand is just the most uplifted thing on the plate. It's a continent in it's own right.
I am suddenly very concerned by the colors chosen to represent each continent in the Olympic rings a 2:47. It seems the only color which was actually picked for no particular reason was green.
I bet there are mixed feelings about the colours they chose for Africa and Asia 😄
(Spoiler Alert: They're exactly what you think they are)
@@A_Haunted_Pancake and also america
i think i get the rest but what about blue for europe? is it that royal blood thing?
@@l.josino blue eyes?
x2
I'm rewatching the video and thinking exactly the same.
(I also don't know why the blue)