30 Essential Ideas you should know about ADHD, 3B DSM IV Subtypes they are really traits of ADHD
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The Problems with the DSM IV Subtypes and why the DSM V will abandoned the old language and convert the subtypes to manifestations of ADHD
Better subtyping of ADHD is
1) ADHD without conduct disorder
2) ADHD with conduct disorder
With the ADHD without conduct disorder there is only 1 subtype but it has different manifestations.
During certain ages you may show predominantly hyperactivity, predominantly inattentive, or combined.
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I spaced out for a bit and heard "ADHD is a gateway to psychopathy" or sth like that and I went "wOoahh, I thought guy was legit". But I kept listening, lol. Solid talk! This was super informational and changed my way of thinking about my ADHD.
I did the exact same 😂😂
Lol, ADHD be like that, huh? :D I can relate, lol.
I see we all did this 😂
Funny I spaced out until that part too 😂
THIS JUST HAPPENED TO ME I ALMOST CHOKED ON MY FOOD 😂😂😂
1:42 "a child who lacks guilt, conscience, empathy and remorse" lmao I thought he was gonna finish the sentence with "it can't be bargained with, it can't be reasoned with, it doesn't feel pity or remorse or fear, and it absolutely will not stop… EVER, until you are dead!"
I was diagnosed with ADHD - inattentive type as an adult, but I was actually wondering about that categorization because I feel like I'm actually low key hyperactive. I've never been hyperactive to the point that I'd leave my seat during class but I wouldn't sit still either (changing positions frequently and fidgeting). What he says makes totally sense to me.
Yesss! I was diagnosed as an adult too and had grown up and worked with my ADHD--until my employer refused to make "reasonable accommodation" for me under the Americans with Disabilities Act, claiming that accommodating my diagnosing psychiatrist's written request that I be given a less distracting workspace was too burdensome following a the ONLY bad performance appraisal of my whole time at the college where I'd worked in various capacities but where my ADHD symptoms were mentioned as needing improvement but tolerated due to the high quality of my work--in which all my new boss's grievances were related to my ADHD--and his response to my asking if he could get one of the other workers in our remodeled office who kept refusing my direct requests to her to turn her radio down because I couldn't increase my productivity as he was demanding due to my having ADHD was, "Oh, yeah, we had to babysit a kid with ADD over the weekend. What a terror!" And then telling me that he couldn't ask her to turn her radio down and I should get back to work. When I went to his supervisor and HR trying to get reasonable accommodation like they had no problem providing me in the courses I was taking there, they refused to budge, which ended my otherwise happy and respected 15-year career there. And now I'm on permanent disability, although ADHD wasn't one of the reasons the government accepted for disability; it was a combination of panic disorder and repetitive-motion injury that were accepted. But if being undistractable and never being late for work are criteria, then ADHD alone, especially if we were never diagnosed as children or given any support for it and can't GET any, should qualify people for disability. But back in 2002, even psychiatrists were still scoffing at ADHD and saying there was no such thing and laypeople dismissing it saying "everybody" has ADHD or that it's just a "crutch" or excuse and I'm just not TRYING hard enough. Also, I TRIED Ritalin and am allergic to it!
Anyway, I haven't had to deal with my ADHD problems much lately and thought with my huge library of books on the subject, including the ones he scoffs at at the beginning of this playlist--like the one about how ADDers descended from hunters and are more hypervigilant than and therefore superior to the settled-down farmers everyone else is descended from, and how we just have special gifts that other people don't have, we're more creative or whatever, plus the classic "Driven to Distraction"--plus having attended an ADHD support group, I thought I already learned everything there was to know about it years ago, so the info in this video series is all new to me! (I won't bore you with how I used to work as a dishwasher ;) and came across it!).
And it's also apparently unknown by anybody in the mental-health profession (at least anyone who accepts Medicare or even Medicare Advantage). The most recent therapist I quit seeing last year didn't consider it a concern when it came to the Complex PTSD I went to him for and then finally just gave up on finding ANY trauma specialist who had heard of CPTSD or had the slightest clue about the results of narcissistic abuse on a child. Every time I thought I'd found someone sympathetic, they'd want to contact my abuser and ended up siding with him against me as if *I'm* the one who's been abusing HIM since I was born because I'm so emotionally dysregulated (as if emotional dysregulation is a character flaw that I developed because I'm just a bad person) and CBT and DBT were only making me WORSE. There's no such thing as a therapist who doesn't treat EVERYTHING with CBT or DBT anymore; if Zen Buddhism--which is what they don't tell you CBT and DBT actually ARE, in addition to helping you to recognize all your erroneous beliefs, and if it doesn't fix you, then YOU'RE just being non-compliant and too mentally ill to be helped outside a hospital setting. (If pointing out all your "erroneous beliefs" actually worked, I wouldn't *HAVE* CPTSD since my father has been pointing out my total erroneousness all my life! Absolutely NOTHING I do is ever right according to him, grr! Sorry, just have to vent since Dr. Barkley seems to be frustrated with the "system" too.)
So I was still thinking in 2002 terms about ADHD and how it's SOMETIMES genetic but wasn't sure which parent I'd gotten it from, leaning more towards my mother if anyone, except that she'd apparently been a model child and did well in school; it was her older brother/my uncle who was always getting into trouble. (And I'm convinced my cousins/his daughters have ADHD too because how unlikely is it that they make ME look good because they're both always running even later than I am for everything?! But I finally started recognizing ADHD symptoms in my mom too, who, as far as I knew, did well in school and never got in trouble as a kid, nor did she understand MY ADHD starting way back in the 1960s ... although she DID ask my pediatrician about my symptoms, and he told her not to worry about it because it used to be called something like "minimal brain damage" back then and she shouldn't have me stimatized with a label like that. So I spent my life up till I was about 40 trying to figure out why I just COULDN'T be normal no matter HOW hard I tried (even SHE said I wasn't trying hard enough ... and I remember HER always running late when I was a kid ... but blaming it on me, of course, even though I'd be standing at the front door ready to leave for something for what seemed like ages before she'd be ready to go!
Sooooo ... getting to the point of my reply! This is the first I've heard this "updated" info from six years ago that my "ADHD Classic" is the same thing my mother and the rest of us all have; she just wasn't scapegoated for it like I was by my hypercritical, narcissistic father. And maybe it's not the type, but the SEVERITY that differed between us. In fact, I remember HER mother never being able to stay on one subject in conversation or stop talking over whatever TV show we were supposedly all supposedly watching together about a completely different subject either! Yet I still got blamed for making everybody ELSE late. (Except for my cousins who were ALWAYS running two to three HOURS late, making me look GOOD for a change, lol!)
It's also making me realize that my husband--who I thought had some kind of anger issues or actual brain damage from all the concussions he got as a bullrider in addition to talking nonstop at me all the time, only recently having told me he used to get in trouble for talking all through class in school (and, unlike me, he also walks around the house talking to himself--and gets angry if I ask what he just said from the other room since he gets angry with me if I "forget" something he insists he told me but I just never listen!), and can't sit or stand still/stay in the same room for more than 30 seconds unless he's talking--actually, most definitely has ADHD ... and his "anger issues" are probably just part of it! I don't get angry so much as getting overexcited about things and talking way too fast and loud and anxiously. I must be more even-tempered than he is because my dysregulated emotions run the entire gamut almost equally, lol. Whereas he'll burst out yelling at me one minute over seemingly everything I do--like unwittingly ask him a question not realizing he's in the middle of his online game and got him blown up--and we'll end up in a huge fight about it. And then a half hour later, I'll think he's still angry and hates me and that all I do is make him unhappy and maybe we should get a divorce while he'll go back to his usual self and have totally forgotten about the argument and be totally clueless about why I'm upset!
Hmm, I wonder if Dr. Barkley has a book on what to do when BOTH spouses have severe ADHD!
@@mooncovegreat honest responce I could talk to you all day. Where do I start!
this man is genius
Mhh i've been diagnosed with inattentive type as an adult but i've barely had any symptoms of hyperactivity ever in my life. I've always been super introverted as a kid and would spend most of my time daydreaming.
Is it only me that cries when listening to this man talking?
nope. i relate hardcore and feel so seen. did u know that he himself has adhd? he really does get it. also its pretty much a lot to process especially if u recently realised u may have adhd/recently got diagnosed and started seeing the way adhd affects u.
Nope, everything he is talking about, I see in my son
@@therealMattikaiso sorry to hear this… my son is ODD but does have empathy…😢. At least he did when he was young
I started to cry since the first part
I had oppositional defiant disorder as a kid as well of ADHD and autism. I know for a fact I’m not a psychopath (that’s what a psychopath would say) but I did develop a lack of care for how others saw me simply because if they did care I wouldn’t want to be friends with them.
Man, the US has got to get on top their shit. Europe is always ahead of us on best medical practices
I’m going to Europe!!
Why do you say so?
It isn't all sunshine and roses over here either, unfortunately. It took me ages to finally get my diagnosis because I wasn't being taken seriously by psychiatrists. Took me three different psychiatrists to get sent to ADHD assessment because the first two had ancient views on what ADHD is. One unironically said to me that it is a "trend diagnosis" and it is just my depression. And this is in Germany btw, we are supposed to have good psychiatric care in this country.
This unironically assured me I'm not at risk of being a psychopath, because I _definitely_ have feelings of guilt and empathy. Phew!
Thank you for sharing these videos!
Always super informational!
You know you're a serious case of ADHD when: the "3B DSM" in the title catches your attention and one thing leads to another and before you know it, you're not really watching TH-cam anymore 😂😂
oh my god
That’s my life
Oh gosh I've done this before!
Why did you do this to me
Yes, my online activity can be summed up as "rabbit hole Google searches" and "50+ open tabs in 4 different browsers and 100s of bookmarks that I'll one day get around to finish reading".
I really appreciate the lecture being chopped up into smaller bite sized pieces 😊💜
1 in 5 of these children is a budding psychopath...
*Intrusive thoughts, Conduct disorder, Rejection Sensitive Disorder exists*
Me: Dear God...
I must have missed that part, but just an FYI, I have adhd, 58 yrs old. Def had conduct disorder when an adolescent, still have some RSD, and some intrusive thoughts, but not like when I was younger. I did do ALOT of therapy in my 30's tho.
I know a possible psychopath with ADHD, it's terrifying. I say "possible" because I'm not a psychiatrist but they have all the traits. Idk about "1 in 5" though, I don't see how he can predict that.
Guys, I think I'm writing a book: How to Raise a Psychopath without crying every hour of the day
yo i can't focus on this. was just diagnosed and i can't even finish getting the info i need ugh
I'd say this video series (it's the 5th video in a playlist I've been watching in ADHD-sized bites) is definitely more stuff that parents and other people involved in raising kids with ADHD need to be aware of. It can be a bit triggering if you actually HAVE ADHD, especially if you're only just figuring it out. I'm in my 50s and have known I had it since it first had a socially acceptable name at the age of 40. Finding out what was wrong with me all that time was actually a relief at that age so that I could seek solutions instead of just feeling like some kind of weirdo from outer space and not understanding why nobody wanted to be my friend and my family treated and labelled me as a problem child and never stopped. So to have a name for it and someone who's studied it and understands it and wants to help the people who DO love us and want to help provide such a detailed medical explanation for what's ACTUALLY going on and it's NOT our fault is a GOOD thing for me. I'm glad you've got an early diagnosis and, therefore, an opportunity to learn how to cope with the difficulties we face and that it's NOT that you're just not TRYING hard enough; you're actually trying HARDER than everyone else and deserve kudos for that. Hang in there!
You can increase the speed in settings.
@@mooncove Also working through videos slowly and rewatching, honestly to avoid some other responsibilities lol. But if ADHD is 75-80% genetic, there is a possibility the parent is also struggling.
@@Ishaaa95 I know my mother was struggling since she had it too. And also a narcissist husband who was verbally abusive to both her AND me, constanty picking & finding fault & expecting us to do things would physically couldn't and abusing us verbally & emotionally. So my mom and I were struggling against the neurotypical world AND and abusive head of the household.
wow very interesting!
I was diagnosed as ‘severe’ ADHD- does it have spectrums like autism?
Any advice from anyone for this as im struggling to find anything to help me with the following:
How do you encourage your family/my mum to take an interest anf learn about it and how im affected? I got diagnosed last year at 43yrs. I tokd my mum. We fell out afew months ago...since then we havent had much contact. I thought she may make an effort now we know im not just a pain but there are reasons. But im nothing. Even uf we made up i doubt she'd take time to watch these amazing helpful video's. Why?
I'm really sorry you are going through this and that your Mum isn't interested 😔.
@@carau7237 Was that meant for me that message? Not sure if it was because it wasn't direct to me you see but it just flagged the response to me lol! 🙂
Show me a child with "conduct disorder" and I will show you a child who is being abused at home or at school. Beaten, screamed at, restrained, locked up, isolated. Maybe parents, maybe teachers, maybe both! It is the blooming of the seeds of complex trauma planted when the child is first diagnosed and diverted.
My only question I have is that with all that has been presented where is the line between the Neurological disposition, brain function and construction of belief. If you believe that the Neurological structure is related to process of where belief systems originate, does the implied limitation of executive functioning also influence further belief. Does the limitation of executive functioning influence belief or capacity for improvement in these areas? Is the main prospective being presented that a person simply cannot utilize these areas of the brain until their early 30's. If this is so than does not believing one's ability to utilize executive functioning also further inhibit the individuals capacity to develop these arrested areas of executive functioning.
Buyerbeware Greenvolthybridsolutions The line between the Neurological disposition, brain function and construction of belief is when your neurological disposition combined with brain function become so impaired that you believe this crap. I am sure that I will wedge nicely into some negative, dysfunctional, impaired, brain damaged, destructive, delayed, uninhibited, failure, ineducable, dangerous driver, any personality disorder you want to chuck in and that this expression is confirmation of ODD. I was tempted to count the amount of negatives he attributes to people like me and then I thought..... if a parent were so hostile to a child it would be called child abuse. As a doctor he can label me and say "Theres a pill for that". As a social worker I can suggest that his level of deep hostility and criticism would make him unfit to parent and request a judge to order strict supervised access. As a human being I can say.... he is a prick.... and theres no pill for that.
***** How much of him have you seen? This was the closest thing to hostile for he is laying out the destructiveness of *_untreated ADHD_*. He and other researchers have done longitudinal studies of ADHD where the parents bring them in as children and they follow up 20 to 30 year later and there is a vast difference between the people who take their ADHD seriously and continue treatment throughout their lives and the people who abandon treatment.
Why don't you skip to later on in the playlist where he talks about treatment for ADHD. Such as Part 6 that I linked below, though I recommend seeing Part 5 first then seeing Part 6.
th-cam.com/video/1qxUU8LUZoM/w-d-xo.html
Oh he is not a Medical Doctor that can prescribe pills due to going to medical school. He is a psychologist and has a PH.D and not a M.D. His subspecialities including Child and Adolescent Psychology, Neuropsychology, and Clinical Psychology. Thus he will not be shoving pills down your throat, he does recommend medicine for it is the most effective thing to treat ADHD but another Doctor will be giving you the pills, and he also advocates very much non medical treatments of ADHD.
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You misunderstand. ADHD people can use executive function just like other people, it is just harder for them to do so until their adulthood for certain brain areas are a few years delayed in development. Sometimes people ADHD mostly fixes itself in adulthood but sometimes due to the fact the brain builds on itself like a pyramid (foundations, first floor, second floor, etc) your brain may wire itself in a way that just makes certain tasks harder than they should be.
But this does not mean ADHD people can't use Executive Function, an analogy is to compare ADHD with dyslexia. Dyslexic people can still read but they just do so in a much harder way for their brain is not using the ideal specialized regions to do so (see picture later), a subset of dyslexic people may also have cerebellar issues leading ot eye tracking problems and coordination issues.
*Dyslexia Brain Illustration*
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You do not give up on a dyslexic person and you should not give up on an ADHD person, instead you need to do additional instruction to make sure they do not fall behind. In addition you need to teach them in learning styles that they find easy and not trying to force a square peg in a round hole. If they are more visual learners and have a stronger visual working memory stop giving them verbal tasks and expect them to remember things, especially complicated rules on what not to do when they are very young. Instead before you leave them tell them what you want to do, and have them draw on a piece of paper not words but pictures / stick figures of what you want to do. Work with the brain not against it, use that visual and muscle memory to help them create a clue to remember.
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Now if you have a horrible parent, horrible teachers, etc that see the kid as fundamentally flawed and then they tell the kid the kid can not do anything right then of course the kid will internalize this.
But if the kid also is just given the usual amount of attention the kid will automatically start internalizing such thoughts even if the parents sing only praises, for roughly about the age of 10 to 12 all kids including ADHD become a little more self aware and start comparing themselves to their peers. If they do not understand why they are having problems they will of course see themselves as less capable for everything they do they must work so much harder than non ADHD people where stuff just comes naturally for them.
Instead the parents should start instilling in a young age that son or daugther you are different than other kids like all kids are different in some way. You have your strengths and your weaknesses and you need to develop both. Eventually though some things you may not be able to do well but instead of just trying harder we need to think outside the box to do it in a way that suits the kid.
Ultimately terms like disorder vs difficulties are merely words, in the end the goal is to figure out ways to help your kid *_thrive_* in the environment he lives in. If he is not thriving something needs to be changed inside the environment, or you teach the kid how to modify his environment, or you use medicine to help the kid interact with his environment.
I'm not attacking him if your questions is directed to me? My question is related to view of reality, perception, presence or self awareness and how this pertains to neurological associations and overall beliefs.
@@Ribbonsrabbit Wow, I'm glad I never had YOU for a social worker. Although they give LCSW's to EVERYBODY who can read a book on CBT these days, which is why I gave UP on you arrogant, lazy ... what you called HIM types and feel a LOT better since going back to RELIGION! My OWN, NOT your patented version of Zen Buddhism disguised under another name without our informed consent!!!
It’s really scary to learn that one child with adhd and a conduct disorder will be a psychopath.
It’s not necessarily true with the right treatment in childhood and to adulthood.
oh god the comments of know it all Americans are ridiculous 😂
As opposed to the comments of know-it-all ... where are YOU from?
So where you live people are more considerate? Tell me where, so I can book a ticket?
....1:54 ...ADHD does not contribute to suck up a thing.. (the auto-(car-crash) transcript for "Psychopathy"). Let that sink in.. let alone think about fellow humans relying on a visual depiction i.e. transcript of the speakers words i.e. message, content. Get RID or do them RIGHT. these transcriptions are doing my head in, in their sheer horrenduousness! to me they are an insult to intelligence & common sense -and besides being left to flounder their flawful f'all sense footed in and fed by indifference/ignorance/acceptance (delete as applicable)-, an even bigger insult to the speaker's intention and content/message as well as the neurodivergent and those seeking or needing to ingest the information visually. Thus excluding those and at worst fooling them. Imagine you are deaf or your listening grasp of english as a second, third or... language makes following the transcript THE way to access its information. I could go on and on... erosive, misleading, misrepresenting and objectionable in every way.
Hm, I don't remember being hyperactive as a child
Sounds like Donald Trump lol.
Congratulations, you are an idiot.
Wow, Donald Trump, my first thought too! Congratulations, you figured it out before most people did! (His ADHD is obvious to anyone else who has it and knows it, and his ODD is well-documented, including by his niece, who both has a Ph.D. in clinical psychology and has spent enough time with him to diagnose him with Narcissistic Personality Disorder and sociopathic tendencies, as well as other disorders she said he'd probably never consent to be tested for. Trump himself also described almost proudly in a documentary how he was such a brat as a child that his father--who died of Alzheimer's disease--had to send him to military school, which is the only reason you'll ever see a photo of him in a military uniform back then, and one of his former schoolmates also described him as the school bully.)
Okay, my ADHD brain won't let me continue the video until I express to somebody my distraction toward the closed caption I am using along with audio because instead of "psychopathy" CC autocorrected to "suck up a thing."