@@NorthGaLife My road trips are 355 miles. I'm definitely taking this next time I go on that trip. If I'm at about 1/4th tank when I arrive I'll be happy. I don't like running my vehicles dry but I do like doing my trips with no fuel stop.
18 MPG is amazing. And the late 90s I worked at a Holiday inn and drove the V10 shuttle back and forth from the airport. I thought it was a pretty good vehicle and ran well good power etc. Pretty much the same van that you have there.
These vans are horrible in stop and go traffic. I get 10-12 stop and go. My van is lifted now and I still pulled 16.1 mpg on a Road Trip 17.4 is my best on a road trip when it was stock and that includes the Grapevine/Gorman pass th-cam.com/video/7eHMxgW3j1Y/w-d-xo.html
@@JohnDrivesAnything 16 MPGs and I lifted van is amazing on the highway with bigger tires and a lift. My Nissan Xterra I had I would get 16 to 19 on highway that's it but I never get less than 12 in the city typically 14 around town who is stick shift 6-speed manual transmission
I have a '15 box truck at work with this engine. when it was new it got 6.3 MPG after 35,000 miles it went up to 7.5 MPG. every day I'm putting 320 miles and 42 gallons. it now has 413,000 miles on it and it just started making a ticking lifter noise.
I'm hoping for 10 good years with this van. I've made a ton of videos of it since this video. I'm getting 14-17 freeway MPG driving at 60 mph Cruise control at all times. Happy with it for what it is.
The roller followers are ticking is what your hearing, as the 3v v10 doesn't have cam phaser like the 3v 5.4 does. If you don't replace those roller followers they will break off in the engine, then the spring goes flying, valve drops with it then the piston comes up and smack, now it's time for an engine.
I gotten 7 MPG in a Ford E350 cutaway van box truck. I wasn't hauling anything heavy. I was delivering packages like 130 packages. I leave the truck running each stop.
Any Idea how much it weighs? On my recent Road Trip I got 17 MPG and 500 miles of range going 60 MPH. Pretty happy with 17 MPG and 500 Miles from a V10 th-cam.com/video/qNWmw6suL-k/w-d-xo.html
I was hoping for 14 really impressed with what it got. Man that first fill up made me cringe because I'm use to putting 8-9 gallons in my Abarth. I got this not expecting good fuel economy I'm not that landscaper guy.
@@JohnDrivesAnything I'm impressed that's about what my pickup gets on the highway. I'll average 15 or so but I do a lot of short trips. Live 2 miles from work and I warm up my pickup usually before leaving. On the highway I'll get about 20 if I'm not being stupid. It has a 36 gallon tank I'm going to assume that's what they put in the van
35 Gallon tank for me so at 18 MPG I'll get 500 miles of range with fuel to spare. Don't like running dry but I do like doing my trips with the least fuel stops possible. Going to most likely get 2 5 gallon fuel canisters so I can fill them up where fuel is $2.99 a gallon thats the cheapest I see on my trips
I had a 2000 v10 excursion 2wd that I paid 6500$ with factory 3.73s with a banks intake and tuner also an aftermarket y pipe. I was getting 11mpg city and 16 mpg 6-9 towing. I live in the southwest on road trips I was doing 70 - 80 mph. I then had 4.30s put in because I regularly towed an 8000 lbs camper. City mpgs remained unchanged as well as towing I lost 1.5 mpgs highway. But holy crap! The difference in towing ability was night and day! This thing was hands down stone reliable with 130k miles. In a moment of weakness I bought a 6.0 psd excursion, that I ended paying more in repairs than I paid for my V10 excursion. The ONLY advantage the 6.0 had was the 5 spd transmission and about 1-2 mpgs overall better. If I had it to do over I would've kept the v10
I just got a glass pack installed and I'm going to put in a K&N. I was thinking of a 5 star tune but I'm happy with this van as is. I'm going on my first road trip in this Saturday. I'm going to keep my speed around 60. Lots of Mountains so my goal is 15 mpg. I wasn't even considering a diesel because of the price. I'm really liking the V10 a lot. I think people ignore it because of the Diesel. I'll be the guy that talks about the Triton V10.
@@JohnDrivesAnything I love the V10. I think 15mpg is very realistic. At 60 mph I would expect 16-17 on flat highway. I bought the banks tuner because I was concerned with safety and reliability. It did allow me to disable the speed limiter. I once got my 7000 lbs excursion to 122mph and it had alot more in it. I was concerned about jail time or what would happen if something went sideways lol. The tuner also allows you to change shift points and firmness. Banks offer a whole exhaust system if you want to spend the money. I bought a "cheap" y pipe from Jdm I believe. It was a 100$. They will tell you up front it's not emissions certified. Here in Nevada they don't do a visual check only at the tailpipe and it would pass no problem. The y pipe also helped throttle response. If I had it to do all over, I would have kept the v10 and do the whole exhaust including the headers and maybe a gear vendors unit. There's a guy on TH-cam who has recently turboed v10 excursion and the numbers are incredible
@@joefwarren I pulled off 17 MPG in a recent road trip and that included a mountain pass Since I got this I just put in a k&N filter and glasspack muffler. I'm happy with that 500+ mile range
Folks, fuel mileage is all relative to how fast you drive, if the wind is coming at the sides or the front or none at all, how much weight you're carrying or towing, and so on. I've got a 2002 Ford F-250 extended cab 4x4 with the long box 8 foot bed with the 6.8 V-10. It's got the 4-speed automatic transmission with 3.73 rearend gears. If I do between 70 and 75 mph and there is no wind, I can get between 12 and 14 mpg and sometimes better depending on terrain. If I'm doing between 65 and 70, I can get 14 to 16 mpg depending on wind. But if I'm doing 75 to 80 mph, I can get about 11 to 13 mpg depending on wind and terrain. If I'm towing about 10k to 12k behind me including the weight of the trailer, I can get about 7.5 to 9 mpg going between 70 and 75 mph and I'm traveling on mostly flat terrain. The sweet spot is about 72 to 74 mph as it won't shift out of overdrive at this speed if I'm on mostly flat terrain. But you have to know how to drive it with the cruise on when hitting small hills as it will downshift about 1/3 into the hill and not upshift back into overdrive UNLESS you hit about 76 mph or are on a slight decline because it wants' to "stick" in 3rd gear if you're still on a flat surface. You need to increase the speed just enough to get it to upshift again and then it will "settle" into it's 72 to 74 mph range after that and be fine as long as the incline isn't too steep. Folks that are complaining that they are getting worse fuel mileage with different gearing such as 4.11, 4.30 or 4.56 gears should know that this is going to be a given no matter what engine you would have. It's all about gearing and driving patterns. Same goes for if you're using a pickup with a heavy tool box or utility box loaded with 1000 to 2000 pounds of equipment in it. The same goes for if you're driving up and down hills and trying to go 75 to 80 mph or willing to go slower at 60 to 65 mph. Of course you're going to get worse fuel mileage if you go faster. Or, if you choose to get on the throttle more than you need to when starting from a stop. Why do you need to haul butt from a stop just to end up stopping 2 blocks ahead when in town? It makes no sense. Be "nice" to the throttle and baby it. And that's one of the problems with people that own these V-10 pickups. They enjoy the power too much and like to "get on it" while driving around town or on the highways. Well, of course you're going to use more fuel. You just will. And remember, you have 2 more cylinders to feed fuel to than a V-8 so keep that in mind. But let's be "real" here. Most people aren't willing to travel at 65 mph or slower when trying to go down the highway. Most want to do at least 70 but since a lot of people travel at 75 to 80 mph, this ruins the fuel mileage if you're going this fast. WHICH "MOST" PEOPLE WILL TRAVEL THIS FAST. AND THAT'S WHY people get "crap" for fuel mileage with these trucks. They want to travel at 75 or 80 mph like everyone else on the highway and they live in an area where there are hills and so on and they wonder why they can't get better than 11 or 12 mpg. It's all relative. STOP TRYING TO HAUL BUTT EVERYWHERE YOU GO. These engines can get "okay" fuel mileage if you're nice to the throttle. No different than any other vehicle. Stop "gettin' on it" everywhere you go. And of course, if you're towing something, that's gonna suck up the fuel as well. But again, if you're towing something and trying to do over 70 mph, it's gonna "suck" literally if you don't know how to drive it. One other thing. You have to know how to use the cruise ESPECIALLY WHEN TOWING. (I mentioned this above but I'll try to clarify again to help people understand) In my case, if I set it at 72 or 74 mph on a flat terrain but hit a little hill and it downshifts, if I just let the cruise stay on without hitting the throttle at all, it typically won't upshift from 3rd to 4th until I hit a little decline. And as a result, it will stay in 3rd gear longer which sucks the fuel down. But if the incline is not that bad or nothing at all, if I hit the throttle just a little bit (by being "nice" to it and letting it take 6 to 10 seconds to gain just 4 mph) and let it get to about 75 or 76 mph and it upshifts into 4th gear, it will usually stay in 4th once the RPMs settle back to the normal range and it "settles" back at 74 mph (or 72 mph if that's what I have it set at) and it will help the fuel mileage. So, you can't just let the cruise handle all of the driving when towing although of course that would be nice. You have to drive this truck and get used to it and understand how it operates. If you just "set it and forget it" with the cruise while towing more than say a small utility trailer or a small enclosed trailer, you're gonna end up having it stay in 3rd gear a lot longer than is necessary and this will eat up your fuel.
Appreciate the input. I have the patience to go 60 MPH lol. This video was made when I first bought this van. Since then I added a lift kit and still running 245 tires. I can fir 285s now but I want to keep my 15+ mpg. Never though of accelerating harder on inclines to be in that sweet spot RPM to stay in Overdrive
@@JohnDrivesAnything I'm not suggesting to accelerate harder on the inclines. I'm saying to have more mph to start with initially PRIOR TO getting into an incline. Now, again, this is all relative. If you're driving in an area where there are a lot of hills or the hills are steep like say a mountain area or something similar, there really isn't much you can do. Although it would be advised to just not even use the cruise for this because it's not going to help really. What I'm referring to is just driving a little faster to begin with so that you are partially up and into the incline of the hill when the transmission does finally downshift into 3rd. This way, at this time, if you were doing say 72 to 74 mph instead of 65 or 60, if you were going into a moderate incline, you might be 1/3 to almost 1/2 into the incline of the hill before it downshifts. And when it does downshift, it would probably be at about the 68 to 69 mph mark. At this point, you would still be keeping your speed relatively easily although it will still decrease a little bit. By the time it gets down to 65 or 63 mph, hopefully you are getting to the top of the hill and still in 3rd gear. You may even be going faster. At which point, when you get just over the top of the hill, you'll gain momentum and get back to the 72 or 74 mph speed you were at previously and it should upshift into 4th gear hopefully fairly easily. In contrast, if you're at 65 mph and you hit a hill, by the time you get to around 62 mph or maybe 60 at worst, it will downshift into 3rd and you will probably only be 1/4 of the way into the incline or just starting out. And in some cases, it may even downshift into 2nd if you get under 55 mph depending on the incline of the hill. If you have to hit 2nd gear going up the hill, that's just not good as you're just throwing your money down your fuel tank. Obviously, if you're towing a load that's heavy or the hill or grade is steep, there's nothing you can do about it. I'M NOT REFERRING TO THESE SITUATIONS. I'm referring to the times when you're driving on "mostly" flat terrain with small hills here and there. For example: I live in South Dakota and our interstate is honestly one of the best in the country. Although I wish it had at least one more lane and would like to see 2 more for a total of at least 4, 2 lanes going to same direction is pretty decent for the most part for our area. There are many reasons but for one, with the exception of a few times on the interstate, you won't "typically" run into so much traffic that you get "clogged up" like many other interstates. Sure, that happens from time to time and there are busier periods or days than others but for the most part, the traffic is "usually" pretty easy to deal with. But some other great things are that we don't have many hills from one end of the state to the other with the exception of the Black Hills area on the last 1/3 or maybe only a 1/4 of the West end of the state. Even then, it's not bad. Other than that, there are maybe 2 "decent' sized hills just before Chamberlain (in the middle of the state) and one right as you're going through Chamberlain. And......it's pretty straight for the most part. Super simple. So, I'm using my state as an example of when you would need to adjust to the cruise if you're towing and use the "sweet spot" that some other owners of the 6.8 know about. The wind plays a factor in things as well which should be obvious. Even if I have a small wind from the front, it will make upshifting even more difficult. So, sometimes I'll have to give it a little more throttle to get to the 77 mph range so that it will have time to upshift. But usually, if the wind is bad enough, it's going to continue to want to downshift even more frequently so at that point, I will usually just adjust my driving to go 70 or 68 mph if I have to. And at that point, cruise is usually not going to work anyway as it will just continue to want to constantly downshift into 3rd all the time and stay there. So, if I get too much wind from the front OR EVEN FROM THE SIDES, it can be a pain in the ass. It just is. I didn't think a sidewind would matter that much but it does. I understand you don't care about getting places faster. That's fine. You can obviously drive slower if you want to. But I'm just telling you that if you want to get there a little bit faster and have a way to keep your fuel mileage "somewhat reasonable" at the same time, you have to know how to use the "sweet spot" of your vehicle. Again, ESPECIALLY when towing. Also, keep in mind that depending on what rearend gears you have as well as tire size will have an affect on your "sweet spot". Yours might be more at 68 or 67 mph or maybe even lower. If you have 4.11, 4.30, or 4.56 gears, it will likely be in the mid 60s for mphs. You'll just have to get used to it. It sucks not being able to "set it and forget it" when towing but at least you don't necessarily have to constantly be on the throttle. Just when you hit a few inclines. Sometimes not all of them. That's better than having to control the throttle the whole time which just causes fatigue and sucks.
Cool. Yea I am up in North County. I am trying to get the best mpg since I’ll be using it for furniture deliveries as well as camping. So a lot of miles. Right now I am using my truck for all those deliveries but figured a van would be nicer to have for most of those jobs. Definitely wanna throw on some cooler wheels but will probably stick to 265s for tires like I have on my f250. I like those old alloy wheels that a lot of Excursions have. So probably won’t lift it immediately.
Here's my buddys van with a 2 inch lift and 265 tires. th-cam.com/video/uGwJ9X-K_WY/w-d-xo.html If you want good gas mileage consider the 4.6. The thing I dont like about my V10 is it's not E85 Compatible. The 4.6 and 5.4 is E85 compatible in later models
I once drove a 26foot F-650 Penske moving truck that had the 6.8 V10. First off, the engine looked tiny sitting in that huge frame, but the upside was everything was effortlessly accessible for servicing. Downside was it got 14 mpg...... at 45 mph and that dropped down to 6 mpg at 65.
The Econolines only got the 2V V10s and they were rated at 305 Horsepower 420 Torque. The F-650s got the 3V V10s and they were detuned in those vs the F250/350 pick ups. The Pickups with the 3V V10 got 360 Horsepower and 460 Torque. Somewhere around there. The 650s got 320 440 I believe. Im sure being tuned that way will make them last forever. My best Road trip with mountain cross has been 17.9 MPG at 60 MPH. This is a great motor for this van even in 2V form
@@kimstocks4485 2V V10 was the early V10 Engines. 2 Valves Per Cylinder. I think it was in 2005 where they got 3 Valve Per Cylinder. The F250/350 Pick ups got the 3 Valve Engines and the Econoline Vans only got the 2 Valve Engines all the way up to 2014.
Thanks for the info. I am driving up north tomorrow to check out a 99 E350 passenger van with a V10. 180k miles and it looks super clean. They’re asking $4500. Any tips to look out for?
If possible bring a scanner just to see if they are storing any codes. The main weakness of these vans is they like to spit out spark pluigs. All Engines. If you end up buying it we happen to have the Expert Ford Mechanic here in San Diego. This is a good interview to listen too. I got my spark plugs changed by this guy and he solves the spark plug spitting problem. The V10 Should accelerate nice and smooth with some nice low end torque and smooth shifting. It's a very smooth motor when you fire it up. th-cam.com/video/uTButFGgFhM/w-d-xo.html
I was driving it as soft as possible like 25% on the gas accelerating real slowly. That's how you do it in Big Engine Gigantic Vehicles. I was hoping for 14 but I was confident I can do 17 MPG so 18 was really good. I think if I do a 55mph road trip run I can get 20 MPG. Every MPG counts when your MPG is in the teens LOL Wait until you see my last round. I drove it like a car guy and it's bad!
@@josephd27 I'll upload the lead foot fuel economy video tomorrow. Isn't your wifes Tahoe a z71 with 4 wheel drive? 4 wheel drive hurts fuel economy also what is the tiresize? I'm guessing 265? It'll say it on the side. My van has 245s. I put 285s on my last van and that wrecked fuel economy. It only had 235 stock so I went up 5 sizes. I most likely wont got up in tire size with this van so I keep my fuel economy decent
@@JohnDrivesAnything it is a z71. And I'm pretty sure it has bigger tires than your van. I didn't know that messed with fuel economy that much. The rubber isn't that much more weight I don't think. Not sure
@@josephd27 IT's the science or the tire size and the gearing that messes with fuel economy. I'm pretty sure they are 265s on tahoe since it's a Z71. When you have the chance look and let me know. I like seeing if my knowledge on cars is correct.
I'm guessing stop and go a 4 cylinder struggles to move all that weight and the V6 has similar fuel economy. These vans have a V6 available in 150 trim and gets about 1-2 MPG better at stop and go but on the freeway they are about the same as the V8s. I had a 1992 5.0 Econoline and I got around 13 MPG side street 18 Freeway. This van gets about the same MPG as that and has way more power my 5.0 was rated at only 180 HP 280 Torque , felt really underpowered.
I have a 2000 F250 4wd with the V10, and it has been fantastic. I'm the second owner, my dad bought it new, and it has been a completely reliable. I'm a heavy wrecker operator, and the towing company I work for completely moved away from diesels to Ford V10s for our light duty fleet. We had Dodge & GM 5500s with Cummins & Duramax engines. They pulled great, but the maintenance costs & sticker prices were crazy. They got around 13 mpg. The F550's with V10s have been very reliable, with 250,000+ miles of hard use. They get around 6-7 mpg. They impress me enough that I own one.
Since it was your dads truck do you know what has been replaced besides basic maintanence? I love this engine in this van. The car guy in me is happy I went with the V10 and didn't settle for the 4.6 or 5.4. I made a video on my car guy thoughts on the V10 th-cam.com/video/lXHoZRDmVs8/w-d-xo.html
@@JohnDrivesAnything nothing besides basic maintenance. It has 99k on it now, and I'm about to replace the plugs, so hopefully that goes smooth. They're known for having thread problems with the aluminum heads in the early ones. The passenger side exhaust manifold leaks, so it needs a new gasket and bolts. Finally the transmission shift linkage or the cable needs fixed, as it won't shift into park.
@@kimstocks4485 I average 13mpg, so 15 highway maybe possible. However mine is lifted with 37 inch tires, so that definitely affects it. It has 3.73 axles, I may swap to 4.30s in the future.
They didn't rate the E350s because the GVWR is over 8600 pounds. I forgot about that. I was just going by memory and citing the E250 with the 5.4 V8. That thing was rated at 11 City 15 Highway I believe. But yes you are correct the V10 Econolines were never rated by the EPA.
I documented my first trip.Uphill 60 MPH I was getting 7-10 MPG. Left it in cruise control and the transmission stayed in overdrive th-cam.com/video/Td4ij5wbpLg/w-d-xo.html
That gas price is crazy!! OMGEE! We are about $2 a gallon for same unleaded now here in Texas. It goes up or down by 20 to 30 cents a gallon every few weeks or so. Glad it did better than expected. :D - Heidi
@@JohnDrivesAnything My daily driver is a lfted 4x4 with offroad tires that are pretty big lol. It gets like 12-13 mpg most of the time but gas is like 2 bucks or less and I don't drive much so it's fine by me lol. If gas was 4 bucks a gallon I'd have to switch lol.
Very interesting to me because i am in the market for a new class c motorhome. Im trying to decide between the 6.8v10 or waiting for the 7.3lv8.. any input would be appreciated.
I did a video on my thoughts of the V10 here and a Class C actually passes me on the mountain grade. I know if you go 2005 or newer you will have the 5 Speed Transmission. My van only has the 4 Speed. That being said the 7.3 has way more power then the V10. The V10s in the Class C RVs only ever got the 2V V10 which is rated at 305 Horsepower 420 Torque. The 3V V10 which the Econolines never got are rated at 362/470 I believe. When I made this video that I'm linking you too I had no idea the E-350 Cutaways were getting the 7.3 V8. I looked it up and the specs are great. 350 Horsepower 450 Footpounds of torque so a decent amount more then the old V10 which is good for a vehicle as heavy as a RV. I get 17.5 MPG on this tank which was a mix of 55 and 60 MPH driving th-cam.com/video/7c9_NNQ73to/w-d-xo.html
@@johnnyturbo8460 I wouldn't let the V10 scare you off of a good deal, however. The 6.8 V10 is a proven design, which has been moving RVs around with no problem for decades. I'm really excited for the new 7.3, but if I found a great deal on a leftover with a V10 I'd jump on it.
@@usmcvet0313 yes that's true, but its not just the engine on the 2021s, its an all new chassis and suspension. Completely redone dash, steering wheel, driving area. Updated cameras, TPMS standard, etc... and the new 2021s have some living area updates as well
@@JohnDrivesAnything The 3V 6.8L (Mid 2003-2008) is 362 HP/457 TQ actually.The 2V 6.8L (1997-2003) is 325 HP/425 TQ. I use to have a 2002 V10 F550 XLT,it was a awesome truck.Now I own a 1994 & 2000 7.3L PSD F250 XLT.
@@JohnDrivesAnything I can see that. Honestly, I usually fill back up right when it gets to just under 1/4 tank but sure I could get 500+ miles. So my initial comment wouldn't really be valid. My truck is an 04' F250 CC that just hit 63k miles and still drives like new.
LOL this is when my van was new to me. I got it lifted and put on 33s and my MPG is 2-3 MPG worse now lol. I am getting a Re-gear and rear locker for it so hopefully I gain 1 mpg back. I'm guessing you are on 285s? Stock my van was 245 and those are 30s. If you got 33s with no re-gear and go down to 30s your mpg will improve 2-3 mpg. Here's my van now th-cam.com/users/shorts-OG7xKOH78E
I have a hard time believing that a 6.8L can get 15-18 MPG or more.Seriously? I use to have a 2002 F550 XLT with the 2V 6.8L.My truck was 12,000 lbs and had 4:56 Gears.I got 7-9 MPG all the time. Anyone else who I know that owns a Excursion or a F250,being much lighter on the V10,tell me that they get 10-12 MPG.Never seen a 2V 6.8L or 3V 6.8L ever get more than that.These engines were primarily made for work only,never to save you from the gas station.It's still curiosity to see what fuel efficiency they even get,but it really won't help a thing in the long run.It is a gas engine and a V10 after all,the only negative side about these is how much of a gas guzzler they are.
I keep my speed at about 60 when I do my road trips. I'm in no hurry to get places. I sleep in my van vs hotels. Stop and go traffic these V10s are horrible. 8-10 MPG. My van weighed in at 6500 pounds at the truck scale and has 3:73 gears too so it's a lot lighter then your 550 and the RPMS aren't as high in Overdrive so that helps too. Here's a video getting 500 miles of range out of this in my last road trip th-cam.com/video/qNWmw6suL-k/w-d-xo.html
@@JohnDrivesAnything Yeah,mine had a utility bed on the rear and I never got it above 80 MPH at most,it cruised just fine at 70-75 MPH. The 4:56's with the 4R100W were of little help too.On mine,I usually had it at 2,500-2,700 RPM but if I was on a hill I could reach as far as 4,000 RPM.The redline on the V10 is 5,200 RPM.I plan on purchasing a Ford Excursion with the V10 in the future,maybe with 3:73 or 4:10,it doesn't matter to me.
@@Slim_Slid I had a 1992 Econoline with the 5.0 and that thing was wimpy. Any slight incline it's out of overdrive into 3rd gear. I think the key to this van is I have the power to stay in overdrive even on inclines. I keep my speed at 60 so I'm always under 2000 RPM. The fuel savings is worth it for me to take my time.
@@JohnDrivesAnything I had a 1981 F150 XLT 2WD with a 302.And I own a 1964 Ford Fairlane 500 Sports Coupe with a 500 HP 5.0L. I never had to use the overdrive,and if I'm honest,it never helped,the only difference it created was a better and geared launch,so it could move at ease from a stop if I had a load behind me.Although,when I still had my 2002 F150 Supercrew,I liked using it all the time for off roading whenever I had to go very fast up a steep incline.
LOL if family didn't live here I would of moved to a free state a long time ago. Long Tube headers aren't even legal here. MY Z06 would gain 40 horsepower just from long tube headers and no cats!
Okay I drive around 3/4 ton with a 6.4 hemi I'm getting 8 to 10 around town the best I've ever got on the freeway with engine management engaged so the engine's running off of 4 cylinders is 14 miles to the gallon.... If I hook my 32 ft trailer to it? It drops from 2 to 6 miles per gallon.. obviously depending on how flat the road is... You people have no room to cry
I'm not crying. I wanted the 6.8 V10 and not the 5.4 or 4.6 V8. Wish the V10 in the Ford was a 8.0 like the Dodge V10. I just like making Fuel Economy Videos
@@JohnDrivesAnything no no no man the crying part was just a joke don't take that serious... But that was my point I drive a 6.4 fully unmodified other than I did away with the stock muffler the power is awesome the torque is awesome the fuel mileage is a deal-breaker the truth is I'm a Ford guy driving ram
All I'm saying is my motor has under 100,000 miles on it I literally get 8 to 10 around town driving it like a grandma..... When I pull my 10,000 lb camper it pulls it good but my fuel mileage drops down to about 5 to 6 on flat road
@@asusreviews Here's my car guy thoughts on the V10 th-cam.com/video/lXHoZRDmVs8/w-d-xo.html When I was shopping for a new van I was browsing forums and people who tow with the 5.4 wish they got the V10.
yall. live in cheap gas land . ihope yur right i have a .triton v10 carrying 11thousand pounds .calculate that .i have a schuttle bus /converted into a R.V hmm
@@JohnDrivesAnything thanks 8 to 12 will be good enough.at 5 bucks a gallon , would be great. my shuttle bus lost seat weight 20 passenger seats.im taking it to the cat scales just as soon as i can i want to know the true weight
You can’t work out of a Prius bud. People buy vehicles for a purpose... do you think I can tow my 16’ enclosed trailer with a Prius? You think it can tow 6,000 pounds. Not everyone works in an office
@@sealtite87 LOL this is an inside joke. Theres a guy on youtube who has a gardening business and he's complaining about his V10 F250 getting crappy mileage.
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There's a guy on youtube with a V10 Pick up that tows lawn mowers with it and he's sad his truck gets bad fuel economy. I'm not sad though.
I averaged 9mpg city and 13 hwy in my v10 excursion. Now I'm getting 41mph hwy on my 2020 Camry 2.5.
You should do a 300 mile drive to get a all around number.
Good luck with the van...
But when the shit hits the fan and need to get out of dodge, you will be glad you have a beast of a van.
@@NorthGaLife My road trips are 355 miles. I'm definitely taking this next time I go on that trip. If I'm at about 1/4th tank when I arrive I'll be happy. I don't like running my vehicles dry but I do like doing my trips with no fuel stop.
@@NorthGaLife I think it's an unofficial car guy rule to at least have 1 fuel efficient vehicle.
On a 6000 mile roadtrip/vacation my E350 V10 got 14.4mpg. Mixed driving highway, backroads, gravel 4x4 type roads. Never went above 65 on highway.
I keep my speed at 60 so I can top 17 MPG on my trips that include mountain passes th-cam.com/video/qNWmw6suL-k/w-d-xo.html
I can’t go above 65 in mine
18 MPG is amazing. And the late 90s I worked at a Holiday inn and drove the V10 shuttle back and forth from the airport. I thought it was a pretty good vehicle and ran well good power etc. Pretty much the same van that you have there.
These vans are horrible in stop and go traffic. I get 10-12 stop and go. My van is lifted now and I still pulled 16.1 mpg on a Road Trip
17.4 is my best on a road trip when it was stock and that includes the Grapevine/Gorman pass
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@@JohnDrivesAnything 16 MPGs and I lifted van is amazing on the highway with bigger tires and a lift. My Nissan Xterra I had I would get 16 to 19 on highway that's it but I never get less than 12 in the city typically 14 around town who is stick shift 6-speed manual transmission
I have a '15 box truck at work with this engine. when it was new it got 6.3 MPG after 35,000 miles it went up to 7.5 MPG. every day I'm putting 320 miles and 42 gallons. it now has 413,000 miles on it and it just started making a ticking lifter noise.
I'm hoping for 10 good years with this van. I've made a ton of videos of it since this video. I'm getting 14-17 freeway MPG driving at 60 mph Cruise control at all times. Happy with it for what it is.
The roller followers are ticking is what your hearing, as the 3v v10 doesn't have cam phaser like the 3v 5.4 does. If you don't replace those roller followers they will break off in the engine, then the spring goes flying, valve drops with it then the piston comes up and smack, now it's time for an engine.
I gotten 7 MPG in a Ford E350 cutaway van box truck. I wasn't hauling anything heavy. I was delivering packages like 130 packages. I leave the truck running each stop.
Any Idea how much it weighs? On my recent Road Trip I got 17 MPG and 500 miles of range going 60 MPH. Pretty happy with 17 MPG and 500 Miles from a V10 th-cam.com/video/qNWmw6suL-k/w-d-xo.html
I tested my 2014 ambo v10, 4:10 Iimited slip, 65 mph 2000 rpm...cruised thru mountains/rolling hills. 5r100. 350 miles travelled 15mpg. Very happy.
That's rally good 4:10 gears what RPM is it at 65 with the 5 speed?
@@JohnDrivesAnything I think just over 2000
19 mpg that's better then i expected honest to god
I was hoping for 14 really impressed with what it got. Man that first fill up made me cringe because I'm use to putting 8-9 gallons in my Abarth. I got this not expecting good fuel economy I'm not that landscaper guy.
@@JohnDrivesAnything I'm impressed that's about what my pickup gets on the highway. I'll average 15 or so but I do a lot of short trips. Live 2 miles from work and I warm up my pickup usually before leaving. On the highway I'll get about 20 if I'm not being stupid. It has a 36 gallon tank I'm going to assume that's what they put in the van
35 Gallon tank for me so at 18 MPG I'll get 500 miles of range with fuel to spare. Don't like running dry but I do like doing my trips with the least fuel stops possible. Going to most likely get 2 5 gallon fuel canisters so I can fill them up where fuel is $2.99 a gallon thats the cheapest I see on my trips
AutomotiveVlog howwwww?????
You van has me all excited about cars again.
I'm going to upload every day for the next 2 weeks buddy. I have tons of content and plans coming
I had a 2000 v10 excursion 2wd that I paid 6500$ with factory 3.73s with a banks intake and tuner also an aftermarket y pipe. I was getting 11mpg city and 16 mpg 6-9 towing. I live in the southwest on road trips I was doing 70 - 80 mph. I then had 4.30s put in because I regularly towed an 8000 lbs camper. City mpgs remained unchanged as well as towing I lost 1.5 mpgs highway. But holy crap! The difference in towing ability was night and day! This thing was hands down stone reliable with 130k miles. In a moment of weakness I bought a 6.0 psd excursion, that I ended paying more in repairs than I paid for my V10 excursion. The ONLY advantage the 6.0 had was the 5 spd transmission and about 1-2 mpgs overall better. If I had it to do over I would've kept the v10
I just got a glass pack installed and I'm going to put in a K&N. I was thinking of a 5 star tune but I'm happy with this van as is. I'm going on my first road trip in this Saturday. I'm going to keep my speed around 60. Lots of Mountains so my goal is 15 mpg.
I wasn't even considering a diesel because of the price. I'm really liking the V10 a lot. I think people ignore it because of the Diesel. I'll be the guy that talks about the Triton V10.
@@JohnDrivesAnything I love the V10. I think 15mpg is very realistic. At 60 mph I would expect 16-17 on flat highway. I bought the banks tuner because I was concerned with safety and reliability. It did allow me to disable the speed limiter. I once got my 7000 lbs excursion to 122mph and it had alot more in it. I was concerned about jail time or what would happen if something went sideways lol. The tuner also allows you to change shift points and firmness. Banks offer a whole exhaust system if you want to spend the money. I bought a "cheap" y pipe from Jdm I believe. It was a 100$. They will tell you up front it's not emissions certified. Here in Nevada they don't do a visual check only at the tailpipe and it would pass no problem. The y pipe also helped throttle response. If I had it to do all over, I would have kept the v10 and do the whole exhaust including the headers and maybe a gear vendors unit. There's a guy on TH-cam who has recently turboed v10 excursion and the numbers are incredible
@@JohnDrivesAnything I regularly see very nice V10 Vans and excursions here in Vegas for 4500$
@@JohnDrivesAnything th-cam.com/video/37H9dq4FTmM/w-d-xo.html
@@joefwarren I pulled off 17 MPG in a recent road trip and that included a mountain pass Since I got this I just put in a k&N filter and glasspack muffler. I'm happy with that 500+ mile range
Folks, fuel mileage is all relative to how fast you drive, if the wind is coming at the sides or the front or none at all, how much weight you're carrying or towing, and so on.
I've got a 2002 Ford F-250 extended cab 4x4 with the long box 8 foot bed with the 6.8 V-10. It's got the 4-speed automatic transmission with 3.73 rearend gears.
If I do between 70 and 75 mph and there is no wind, I can get between 12 and 14 mpg and sometimes better depending on terrain. If I'm doing between 65 and 70, I can get 14 to 16 mpg depending on wind. But if I'm doing 75 to 80 mph, I can get about 11 to 13 mpg depending on wind and terrain.
If I'm towing about 10k to 12k behind me including the weight of the trailer, I can get about 7.5 to 9 mpg going between 70 and 75 mph and I'm traveling on mostly flat terrain. The sweet spot is about 72 to 74 mph as it won't shift out of overdrive at this speed if I'm on mostly flat terrain. But you have to know how to drive it with the cruise on when hitting small hills as it will downshift about 1/3 into the hill and not upshift back into overdrive UNLESS you hit about 76 mph or are on a slight decline because it wants' to "stick" in 3rd gear if you're still on a flat surface. You need to increase the speed just enough to get it to upshift again and then it will "settle" into it's 72 to 74 mph range after that and be fine as long as the incline isn't too steep.
Folks that are complaining that they are getting worse fuel mileage with different gearing such as 4.11, 4.30 or 4.56 gears should know that this is going to be a given no matter what engine you would have. It's all about gearing and driving patterns. Same goes for if you're using a pickup with a heavy tool box or utility box loaded with 1000 to 2000 pounds of equipment in it.
The same goes for if you're driving up and down hills and trying to go 75 to 80 mph or willing to go slower at 60 to 65 mph. Of course you're going to get worse fuel mileage if you go faster. Or, if you choose to get on the throttle more than you need to when starting from a stop. Why do you need to haul butt from a stop just to end up stopping 2 blocks ahead when in town? It makes no sense. Be "nice" to the throttle and baby it.
And that's one of the problems with people that own these V-10 pickups. They enjoy the power too much and like to "get on it" while driving around town or on the highways. Well, of course you're going to use more fuel. You just will. And remember, you have 2 more cylinders to feed fuel to than a V-8 so keep that in mind.
But let's be "real" here. Most people aren't willing to travel at 65 mph or slower when trying to go down the highway. Most want to do at least 70 but since a lot of people travel at 75 to 80 mph, this ruins the fuel mileage if you're going this fast. WHICH "MOST" PEOPLE WILL TRAVEL THIS FAST.
AND THAT'S WHY people get "crap" for fuel mileage with these trucks. They want to travel at 75 or 80 mph like everyone else on the highway and they live in an area where there are hills and so on and they wonder why they can't get better than 11 or 12 mpg.
It's all relative. STOP TRYING TO HAUL BUTT EVERYWHERE YOU GO.
These engines can get "okay" fuel mileage if you're nice to the throttle. No different than any other vehicle. Stop "gettin' on it" everywhere you go. And of course, if you're towing something, that's gonna suck up the fuel as well. But again, if you're towing something and trying to do over 70 mph, it's gonna "suck" literally if you don't know how to drive it.
One other thing. You have to know how to use the cruise ESPECIALLY WHEN TOWING.
(I mentioned this above but I'll try to clarify again to help people understand)
In my case, if I set it at 72 or 74 mph on a flat terrain but hit a little hill and it downshifts, if I just let the cruise stay on without hitting the throttle at all, it typically won't upshift from 3rd to 4th until I hit a little decline. And as a result, it will stay in 3rd gear longer which sucks the fuel down.
But if the incline is not that bad or nothing at all, if I hit the throttle just a little bit (by being "nice" to it and letting it take 6 to 10 seconds to gain just 4 mph) and let it get to about 75 or 76 mph and it upshifts into 4th gear, it will usually stay in 4th once the RPMs settle back to the normal range and it "settles" back at 74 mph (or 72 mph if that's what I have it set at) and it will help the fuel mileage.
So, you can't just let the cruise handle all of the driving when towing although of course that would be nice.
You have to drive this truck and get used to it and understand how it operates. If you just "set it and forget it" with the cruise while towing more than say a small utility trailer or a small enclosed trailer, you're gonna end up having it stay in 3rd gear a lot longer than is necessary and this will eat up your fuel.
Appreciate the input. I have the patience to go 60 MPH lol. This video was made when I first bought this van. Since then I added a lift kit and still running 245 tires. I can fir 285s now but I want to keep my 15+ mpg.
Never though of accelerating harder on inclines to be in that sweet spot RPM to stay in Overdrive
@@JohnDrivesAnything I'm not suggesting to accelerate harder on the inclines. I'm saying to have more mph to start with initially PRIOR TO getting into an incline.
Now, again, this is all relative.
If you're driving in an area where there are a lot of hills or the hills are steep like say a mountain area or something similar, there really isn't much you can do. Although it would be advised to just not even use the cruise for this because it's not going to help really.
What I'm referring to is just driving a little faster to begin with so that you are partially up and into the incline of the hill when the transmission does finally downshift into 3rd.
This way, at this time, if you were doing say 72 to 74 mph instead of 65 or 60, if you were going into a moderate incline, you might be 1/3 to almost 1/2 into the incline of the hill before it downshifts. And when it does downshift, it would probably be at about the 68 to 69 mph mark.
At this point, you would still be keeping your speed relatively easily although it will still decrease a little bit. By the time it gets down to 65 or 63 mph, hopefully you are getting to the top of the hill and still in 3rd gear. You may even be going faster. At which point, when you get just over the top of the hill, you'll gain momentum and get back to the 72 or 74 mph speed you were at previously and it should upshift into 4th gear hopefully fairly easily.
In contrast, if you're at 65 mph and you hit a hill, by the time you get to around 62 mph or maybe 60 at worst, it will downshift into 3rd and you will probably only be 1/4 of the way into the incline or just starting out. And in some cases, it may even downshift into 2nd if you get under 55 mph depending on the incline of the hill.
If you have to hit 2nd gear going up the hill, that's just not good as you're just throwing your money down your fuel tank.
Obviously, if you're towing a load that's heavy or the hill or grade is steep, there's nothing you can do about it.
I'M NOT REFERRING TO THESE SITUATIONS.
I'm referring to the times when you're driving on "mostly" flat terrain with small hills here and there.
For example: I live in South Dakota and our interstate is honestly one of the best in the country. Although I wish it had at least one more lane and would like to see 2 more for a total of at least 4, 2 lanes going to same direction is pretty decent for the most part for our area.
There are many reasons but for one, with the exception of a few times on the interstate, you won't "typically" run into so much traffic that you get "clogged up" like many other interstates. Sure, that happens from time to time and there are busier periods or days than others but for the most part, the traffic is "usually" pretty easy to deal with.
But some other great things are that we don't have many hills from one end of the state to the other with the exception of the Black Hills area on the last 1/3 or maybe only a 1/4 of the West end of the state. Even then, it's not bad. Other than that, there are maybe 2 "decent' sized hills just before Chamberlain (in the middle of the state) and one right as you're going through Chamberlain.
And......it's pretty straight for the most part. Super simple.
So, I'm using my state as an example of when you would need to adjust to the cruise if you're towing and use the "sweet spot" that some other owners of the 6.8 know about.
The wind plays a factor in things as well which should be obvious.
Even if I have a small wind from the front, it will make upshifting even more difficult.
So, sometimes I'll have to give it a little more throttle to get to the 77 mph range so that it will have time to upshift.
But usually, if the wind is bad enough, it's going to continue to want to downshift even more frequently so at that point, I will usually just adjust my driving to go 70 or 68 mph if I have to. And at that point, cruise is usually not going to work anyway as it will just continue to want to constantly downshift into 3rd all the time and stay there.
So, if I get too much wind from the front OR EVEN FROM THE SIDES, it can be a pain in the ass. It just is. I didn't think a sidewind would matter that much but it does.
I understand you don't care about getting places faster. That's fine. You can obviously drive slower if you want to.
But I'm just telling you that if you want to get there a little bit faster and have a way to keep your fuel mileage "somewhat reasonable" at the same time, you have to know how to use the "sweet spot" of your vehicle. Again, ESPECIALLY when towing.
Also, keep in mind that depending on what rearend gears you have as well as tire size will have an affect on your "sweet spot". Yours might be more at 68 or 67 mph or maybe even lower. If you have 4.11, 4.30, or 4.56 gears, it will likely be in the mid 60s for mphs.
You'll just have to get used to it.
It sucks not being able to "set it and forget it" when towing but at least you don't necessarily have to constantly be on the throttle. Just when you hit a few inclines. Sometimes not all of them. That's better than having to control the throttle the whole time which just causes fatigue and sucks.
What kind of MPG would you get if you were reeeeally patient and drove at 50 to 55 MPH?
Cool. Yea I am up in North County. I am trying to get the best mpg since I’ll be using it for furniture deliveries as well as camping. So a lot of miles. Right now I am using my truck for all those deliveries but figured a van would be nicer to have for most of those jobs. Definitely wanna throw on some cooler wheels but will probably stick to 265s for tires like I have on my f250. I like those old alloy wheels that a lot of Excursions have. So probably won’t lift it immediately.
Here's my buddys van with a 2 inch lift and 265 tires. th-cam.com/video/uGwJ9X-K_WY/w-d-xo.html If you want good gas mileage consider the 4.6. The thing I dont like about my V10 is it's not E85 Compatible. The 4.6 and 5.4 is E85 compatible in later models
Where can I buy this “ultra gauge”? I searched Amazon and it’s not there. Does it go by another name?
www.ultra-gauge.com/ultragauge/
Here's my demo on it it.
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I once drove a 26foot F-650 Penske moving truck that had the 6.8 V10. First off, the engine looked tiny sitting in that huge frame, but the upside was everything was effortlessly accessible for servicing. Downside was it got 14 mpg...... at 45 mph and that dropped down to 6 mpg at 65.
The Econolines only got the 2V V10s and they were rated at 305 Horsepower 420 Torque. The F-650s got the 3V V10s and they were detuned in those vs the F250/350 pick ups. The Pickups with the 3V V10 got 360 Horsepower and 460 Torque. Somewhere around there. The 650s got 320 440 I believe. Im sure being tuned that way will make them last forever.
My best Road trip with mountain cross has been 17.9 MPG at 60 MPH. This is a great motor for this van even in 2V form
@@JohnDrivesAnything what do you mean 2v form?
@@kimstocks4485 2V V10 was the early V10 Engines. 2 Valves Per Cylinder. I think it was in 2005 where they got 3 Valve Per Cylinder. The F250/350 Pick ups got the 3 Valve Engines and the Econoline Vans only got the 2 Valve Engines all the way up to 2014.
Thanks for the info. I am driving up north tomorrow to check out a 99 E350 passenger van with a V10. 180k miles and it looks super clean. They’re asking $4500. Any tips to look out for?
If possible bring a scanner just to see if they are storing any codes. The main weakness of these vans is they like to spit out spark pluigs. All Engines.
If you end up buying it we happen to have the Expert Ford Mechanic here in San Diego. This is a good interview to listen too. I got my spark plugs changed by this guy and he solves the spark plug spitting problem.
The V10 Should accelerate nice and smooth with some nice low end torque and smooth shifting. It's a very smooth motor when you fire it up.
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We’ve got a fleet of older v10 f550s at work. 5-5.5 mpgs. Sooo bad.
What are they used for? I know a lot of 550s got 4:56 gears for more pulling power.
@@JohnDrivesAnything They’re all utility bodied. No towing. May be the gearing.
Wow you got 18 mpg out of that beast, sweet buddy
I was driving it as soft as possible like 25% on the gas accelerating real slowly. That's how you do it in Big Engine Gigantic Vehicles. I was hoping for 14 but I was confident I can do 17 MPG so 18 was really good. I think if I do a 55mph road trip run I can get 20 MPG. Every MPG counts when your MPG is in the teens LOL Wait until you see my last round. I drove it like a car guy and it's bad!
@@JohnDrivesAnything yeah we get like 15 in the tahoe. Probably alot less when my wife drive. She's got leadfoot
@@josephd27 I'll upload the lead foot fuel economy video tomorrow. Isn't your wifes Tahoe a z71 with 4 wheel drive? 4 wheel drive hurts fuel economy also what is the tiresize? I'm guessing 265? It'll say it on the side. My van has 245s. I put 285s on my last van and that wrecked fuel economy. It only had 235 stock so I went up 5 sizes. I most likely wont got up in tire size with this van so I keep my fuel economy decent
@@JohnDrivesAnything it is a z71. And I'm pretty sure it has bigger tires than your van. I didn't know that messed with fuel economy that much. The rubber isn't that much more weight I don't think. Not sure
@@josephd27 IT's the science or the tire size and the gearing that messes with fuel economy. I'm pretty sure they are 265s on tahoe since it's a Z71. When you have the chance look and let me know. I like seeing if my knowledge on cars is correct.
I used to have a 2003 Saturn vue awd, 4cyl and got around 13 lol
I'm guessing stop and go a 4 cylinder struggles to move all that weight and the V6 has similar fuel economy. These vans have a V6 available in 150 trim and gets about 1-2 MPG better at stop and go but on the freeway they are about the same as the V8s. I had a 1992 5.0 Econoline and I got around 13 MPG side street 18 Freeway. This van gets about the same MPG as that and has way more power my 5.0 was rated at only 180 HP 280 Torque , felt really underpowered.
Why was this recorded 10 years ago
I been uploading stuff since 2012
My 2019 E450 with the 6.8 V10 with the 6 speed transmission in my 14,000 lb. class C RV gets about 8.5 to maybe 9.5 MPG
That's excellent for such a heavy vehicle. I'm guessing it has 4:10 gears too?
I have a 2000 F250 4wd with the V10, and it has been fantastic. I'm the second owner, my dad bought it new, and it has been a completely reliable.
I'm a heavy wrecker operator, and the towing company I work for completely moved away from diesels to Ford V10s for our light duty fleet. We had Dodge & GM 5500s with Cummins & Duramax engines. They pulled great, but the maintenance costs & sticker prices were crazy. They got around 13 mpg. The F550's with V10s have been very reliable, with 250,000+ miles of hard use. They get around 6-7 mpg. They impress me enough that I own one.
Since it was your dads truck do you know what has been replaced besides basic maintanence? I love this engine in this van. The car guy in me is happy I went with the V10 and didn't settle for the 4.6 or 5.4. I made a video on my car guy thoughts on the V10 th-cam.com/video/lXHoZRDmVs8/w-d-xo.html
what does your truck get for mpg's not towing highway??? thx
@@JohnDrivesAnything nothing besides basic maintenance. It has 99k on it now, and I'm about to replace the plugs, so hopefully that goes smooth. They're known for having thread problems with the aluminum heads in the early ones. The passenger side exhaust manifold leaks, so it needs a new gasket and bolts. Finally the transmission shift linkage or the cable needs fixed, as it won't shift into park.
@@kimstocks4485 I average 13mpg, so 15 highway maybe possible. However mine is lifted with 37 inch tires, so that definitely affects it. It has 3.73 axles, I may swap to 4.30s in the future.
I’m looking to 2004 excursion with a v10
Nice the V10 is a great engine. Underappreciated because everyones all about the diesels
I didn’t think the EPA Ever rated trucks and vans at least not on the window stickers only cars
They didn't rate the E350s because the GVWR is over 8600 pounds. I forgot about that. I was just going by memory and citing the E250 with the 5.4 V8. That thing was rated at 11 City 15 Highway I believe. But yes you are correct the V10 Econolines were never rated by the EPA.
Up hill it gets 4 mpg.....I did the same test in my f250 diesel and got 28 but all around average is 14 mpg
I documented my first trip.Uphill 60 MPH I was
getting 7-10 MPG. Left it in cruise control and the transmission stayed in overdrive th-cam.com/video/Td4ij5wbpLg/w-d-xo.html
That gas price is crazy!! OMGEE! We are about $2 a gallon for same unleaded now here in Texas. It goes up or down by 20 to 30 cents a gallon every few weeks or so. Glad it did better than expected. :D - Heidi
If Fuel was $2 a gallon here I'd drive my van to work more!
@@JohnDrivesAnything My daily driver is a lfted 4x4 with offroad tires that are pretty big lol. It gets like 12-13 mpg most of the time but gas is like 2 bucks or less and I don't drive much so it's fine by me lol. If gas was 4 bucks a gallon I'd have to switch lol.
4.99 in San Jose,ca
I’m looking for a v10 excursion
Very interesting to me because i am in the market for a new class c motorhome. Im trying to decide between the 6.8v10 or waiting for the 7.3lv8.. any input would be appreciated.
I did a video on my thoughts of the V10 here and a Class C actually passes me on the mountain grade. I know if you go 2005 or newer you will have the 5 Speed Transmission. My van only has the 4 Speed. That being said the 7.3 has way more power then the V10. The V10s in the Class C RVs only ever got the 2V V10 which is rated at 305 Horsepower 420 Torque. The 3V V10 which the Econolines never got are rated at 362/470 I believe. When I made this video that I'm linking you too I had no idea the E-350 Cutaways were getting the 7.3 V8. I looked it up and the specs are great. 350 Horsepower 450 Footpounds of torque so a decent amount more then the old V10 which is good for a vehicle as heavy as a RV. I get 17.5 MPG on this tank which was a mix of 55 and 60 MPH driving th-cam.com/video/7c9_NNQ73to/w-d-xo.html
@@JohnDrivesAnything thanks so much! I will watch it now. Sounds like i may hold off for the 7.3
@@johnnyturbo8460 I wouldn't let the V10 scare you off of a good deal, however. The 6.8 V10 is a proven design, which has been moving RVs around with no problem for decades. I'm really excited for the new 7.3, but if I found a great deal on a leftover with a V10 I'd jump on it.
@@usmcvet0313 yes that's true, but its not just the engine on the 2021s, its an all new chassis and suspension. Completely redone dash, steering wheel, driving area. Updated cameras, TPMS standard, etc... and the new 2021s have some living area updates as well
@@JohnDrivesAnything The 3V 6.8L (Mid 2003-2008) is 362 HP/457 TQ actually.The 2V 6.8L (1997-2003) is 325 HP/425 TQ.
I use to have a 2002 V10 F550 XLT,it was a awesome truck.Now I own a 1994 & 2000 7.3L PSD F250 XLT.
Without knowing if you have a load on, or what the circumstance is... I'm guessing about 10 mpg.
I've gotten as low as 8 MPG and as high as 17.9 on a Road Trip.
Quick estimate, expect about 400 miles to the tank of predominantly highway driving.
Pulled off 500 miles on a recent trip th-cam.com/video/7eHMxgW3j1Y/w-d-xo.html
@@JohnDrivesAnything I can see that. Honestly, I usually fill back up right when it gets to just under 1/4 tank but sure I could get 500+ miles. So my initial comment wouldn't really be valid. My truck is an 04' F250 CC that just hit 63k miles and still drives like new.
I like to fill up at about 1/4. I just wanted to see if I can hit 500. 400 is a realistic range
My F150 3.7 gets worse mpg lmao. That's because I am on 33s which I'm probably dropping down to 31s.
LOL this is when my van was new to me. I got it lifted and put on 33s and my MPG is 2-3 MPG worse now lol. I am getting a Re-gear and rear locker for it so hopefully I gain 1 mpg back. I'm guessing you are on 285s? Stock my van was 245 and those are 30s. If you got 33s with no re-gear and go down to 30s your mpg will improve 2-3 mpg. Here's my van now th-cam.com/users/shorts-OG7xKOH78E
Where did you buy I want to buy one for my Brick nose VAN
Unfortunately these only work for 1996 or newer
Doesn't that thing have a 44 gallon gas tank and it took only 90 to fill up?
Only a 35 gallon tank on Econoline Vans. Excursions have 44 gallon tanks. Wish this had a 44 gallon tank
I need one of those devices where can I get one to give it a try?
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What is that gadget called?
The one you are using for fuel economy.
www.ultra-gauge.com/ultragauge/
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If I get 10MPG I'm stoked
Everyday driving I see 10-12
Road trips 15-18
I have a hard time believing that a 6.8L can get 15-18 MPG or more.Seriously?
I use to have a 2002 F550 XLT with the 2V 6.8L.My truck was 12,000 lbs and had 4:56 Gears.I got 7-9 MPG all the time.
Anyone else who I know that owns a Excursion or a F250,being much lighter on the V10,tell me that they get 10-12 MPG.Never seen a 2V 6.8L or 3V 6.8L ever get more than that.These engines were primarily made for work only,never to save you from the gas station.It's still curiosity to see what fuel efficiency they even get,but it really won't help a thing in the long run.It is a gas engine and a V10 after all,the only negative side about these is how much of a gas guzzler they are.
I keep my speed at about 60 when I do my road trips. I'm in no hurry to get places. I sleep in my van vs hotels. Stop and go traffic these V10s are horrible. 8-10 MPG. My van weighed in at 6500 pounds at the truck scale and has 3:73 gears too so it's a lot lighter then your 550 and the RPMS aren't as high in Overdrive so that helps too. Here's a video getting 500 miles of range out of this in my last road trip th-cam.com/video/qNWmw6suL-k/w-d-xo.html
@@JohnDrivesAnything Yeah,mine had a utility bed on the rear and I never got it above 80 MPH at most,it cruised just fine at 70-75 MPH.
The 4:56's with the 4R100W were of little help too.On mine,I usually had it at 2,500-2,700 RPM but if I was on a hill I could reach as far as 4,000 RPM.The redline on the V10 is 5,200 RPM.I plan on purchasing a Ford Excursion with the V10 in the future,maybe with 3:73 or 4:10,it doesn't matter to me.
@@Slim_Slid I had a 1992 Econoline with the 5.0 and that thing was wimpy. Any slight incline it's out of overdrive into 3rd gear. I think the key to this van is I have the power to stay in overdrive even on inclines. I keep my speed at 60 so I'm always under 2000 RPM. The fuel savings is worth it for me to take my time.
@@JohnDrivesAnything I had a 1981 F150 XLT 2WD with a 302.And I own a 1964 Ford Fairlane 500 Sports Coupe with a 500 HP 5.0L.
I never had to use the overdrive,and if I'm honest,it never helped,the only difference it created was a better and geared launch,so it could move at ease from a stop if I had a load behind me.Although,when I still had my 2002 F150 Supercrew,I liked using it all the time for off roading whenever I had to go very fast up a steep incline.
Does V10 6.8 E350 has the same excursion V10 engine?
Exact same engine
@@JohnDrivesAnything correction* my E350 2013 engine is broken, can i replace it with 2005 excursion engine?
@@iw784 You should. Econolines only ever got the 2V V10 and never got the 3V V10
The exhaust and intake will probably be different though
@@JohnDrivesAnything i'm thankful
$3.43 a gallon is highway robbery! Today gas was $2.16 at Costco.
I need to move to America someday. Cheapest I can find is $2.99 when I go on road trips. I'm going to start bringing fuel canisters with me.
@@JohnDrivesAnything buy a 100 gallon tank
Come to southern California. Yesterday I paid $4.99 a gallon for Premium gas at a 76 Gas station. Believe me.
On average I pay $4.55
Thanks Biden. Just paid $5.29 for gas today.
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3.43 where tf you stay Seattle?
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my ambulance gets 6.5 MPG... lol
LOL meat wagons are sick!
Make sure u don't t have a evap leak someone cut mines poor fuel economy
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Why are you paying 3.5$ a gallon😂
LOL if family didn't live here I would of moved to a free state a long time ago. Long Tube headers aren't even legal here. MY Z06 would gain 40 horsepower just from long tube headers and no cats!
Okay I drive around 3/4 ton with a 6.4 hemi I'm getting 8 to 10 around town the best I've ever got on the freeway with engine management engaged so the engine's running off of 4 cylinders is 14 miles to the gallon.... If I hook my 32 ft trailer to it? It drops from 2 to 6 miles per gallon.. obviously depending on how flat the road is... You people have no room to cry
I'm not crying. I wanted the 6.8 V10 and not the 5.4 or 4.6 V8. Wish the V10 in the Ford was a 8.0 like the Dodge V10. I just like making Fuel Economy Videos
@@JohnDrivesAnything no no no man the crying part was just a joke don't take that serious... But that was my point I drive a 6.4 fully unmodified other than I did away with the stock muffler the power is awesome the torque is awesome the fuel mileage is a deal-breaker the truth is I'm a Ford guy driving ram
No matter what way you look at it I would have been better off with a Triton V10
All I'm saying is my motor has under 100,000 miles on it I literally get 8 to 10 around town driving it like a grandma..... When I pull my 10,000 lb camper it pulls it good but my fuel mileage drops down to about 5 to 6 on flat road
@@JohnDrivesAnything I'm just talking in total comparison I know you never mentioned to hemi I'm just comparing the two motors
k mon dude get with it!! stop yaking!!
Lol 3.43 I wish
Me too man, I use to drive this a lot. Now it's just a road trip rig.
12 MPG
8-12 city 15-18 highway. This van hates stop and go traffic
@@JohnDrivesAnything I've heard the V10's can do better than the V8's when towing heavy loads. I'm thinking about getting an F350 with a v10.
@@asusreviews Here's my car guy thoughts on the V10 th-cam.com/video/lXHoZRDmVs8/w-d-xo.html
When I was shopping for a new van I was browsing forums and people who tow with the 5.4 wish they got the V10.
yall. live in cheap gas land . ihope yur right i have a .triton v10 carrying 11thousand pounds .calculate that .i have a schuttle bus /converted into a R.V hmm
My vans 6500 pounds. I average 15-19 on Road Trips and 10-12 in everyday driving. At 11000 pounds you're going to get 8-12
@@JohnDrivesAnything thanks 8 to 12 will be good enough.at 5 bucks a gallon , would be great. my shuttle bus lost seat weight 20 passenger seats.im taking it to the cat scales just as soon as i can i want to know the true weight
@@bobcoopersliveyoutubevlog Here's a recent video on my Fuel Economy. Let me know how much your Bus weighs
th-cam.com/video/dEW_C026t4U/w-d-xo.html
24 mpg 🤣🤣🤣😅😂🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥
I wish!
5 city 7 highway
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Your fruel ecomory is very dissapoint V10 very bad m0t0r u shud get t0yota Prius very good fruel ecomory
You can’t work out of a Prius bud. People buy vehicles for a purpose... do you think I can tow my 16’ enclosed trailer with a Prius? You think it can tow 6,000 pounds. Not everyone works in an office
@@sealtite87 LOL this is an inside joke. Theres a guy on youtube who has a gardening business and he's complaining about his V10 F250 getting crappy mileage.
King of Shmups oh haha. My bad, very true😂😂😂
@@sealtite87 Have you seen that video? It's the dude with the red F250
King of Shmups I have not, post the link or the name of the vid!
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You didn't predict the MPG
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I saw you on my other channel. LOL Do you like Spam? It's good!
@@JohnDrivesAnything I rike spam very lot. It salty so good give me hertack and diarbetes fun
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