Magic TV Top 8 of the Week: Best Non-Blue "Blue" Cards

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    Tristan Shaun Gregson sits down with Luis Scott-Vargas in this week's Top 8 episode from the "Magic TV" series.

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  • @natewebb697
    @natewebb697 9 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    that red blast looks like a top

  • @TheOvermaster
    @TheOvermaster 10 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Non-blue card that is primarily used by blue? Island

  • @IIDASHII
    @IIDASHII 9 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    This video starts at 7:00.

    • @DanRSL
      @DanRSL 9 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      +IIDASHII Thank you. Christ, that was annoying

    • @gradydavis251
      @gradydavis251 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      +IIDASHII Good on you bro I was starting to think I'd been had

    • @blaze556922
      @blaze556922 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you! These guys have no idea how to construct a video. They should show the card being discussed the entire time and have time stamps.

    • @hundredpercentjuice
      @hundredpercentjuice 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      LSV with the functional time walk
      TSG - “borrowing” 10,000 arrows

    • @unrelentingawesomeness7501
      @unrelentingawesomeness7501 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bless you

  • @saltedllama2759
    @saltedllama2759 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Funny thing about the Tarmogoyf as a sideboard strategy: WAAAAY back when Psychatog was the top deck in Standard, a buddy of mine used to splash green for Roar of the Wurm out of the sideboard. No kidding. Opponents would side out creature removal, so he'd bring in Wurms and just win with recurring 6/6's. He won an invite to Nationals with it (back when US Nationals was the 2nd biggest event in the world each year).
    Same concept as the early uses for 'goyf in blue. Only 'goyf is much better. :)

  • @Guyu
    @Guyu 9 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I feel the tittle is misleading.
    Took you 7 minutes to get on topic, I don't know if this is the format you guys use this these videos, it just bothers me.
    Also a big thing that bothers me; cards you listed are just cards that go well with Blue, not cards non-blue cards that do the same job as blue like draw power, counter spells, bouncing spell ... Ect.
    I really don't know why you didn't put Dash hopes, or lapse of certainty on this list.

    • @kameenook
      @kameenook 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Mana Tithe, Temporal Extortion.

    • @NinjaFrog65
      @NinjaFrog65 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Some of these "non-blue" blue cards aren't even used mainly the way they said they are. Timely Reinforcements doesn't see any play in UW decks, mostly if not always in BW tokens. Not sure what's up with this list.

    • @kameenook
      @kameenook 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've seen it in control lists if only for the life gain vs. burn. Other midrange UW lists as well, a.k.a. Geist of Saint Traft lists.

    • @blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh
      @blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Caleb Evans The didn't include dash hopes or lapse of certainty because this video is about good magic cards not unplayable kitchen table garbage

    • @kameenook
      @kameenook 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Chicken Choker Magic started as a kitchen table game, and while it seems that wizards doesn't give enough love to the kitchen table anymore, many magic players still play at the kitchen table and have a great time doing it.

  • @JessicaZane4realz
    @JessicaZane4realz 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I know Tristan got in trouble, but I actually still like it when it's him and LSV doing these top 8's.

  • @darkritualpass
    @darkritualpass 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    List of Non-Blue "Blue" Cards you missed:
    Islands
    Moat
    Harmonize
    Any mono-black card that mills

    • @ZakanaHachihaCBC
      @ZakanaHachihaCBC 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Harmonize is in blue though so. It's color shifted and is better then the blue counterpart.

    • @darkritualpass
      @darkritualpass 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well not exactly. In blue it costs 5.

    • @ZakanaHachihaCBC
      @ZakanaHachihaCBC 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      No the blue version costs the same

  • @GPEGEMGTM3
    @GPEGEMGTM3 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    were lands not allowed? Library of Alexandria?

  • @curtiszaleski6020
    @curtiszaleski6020 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So "Blue" means cards that should be played in blue decks, but they are still not Non-Blue Blue cards

    • @modernminded5466
      @modernminded5466 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Curtis Zaleski I sort of wondered that too.

  • @nukeme11
    @nukeme11 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    You sort of missed the point of this list - it listed cards that in no way violated the color pie, but were splashable enough to allow blue decks to run these threats and entire completely warp the meta or form the basis of viable legacy and vintage decks today. These cards allowed blue to cover the weaknesses associated with the color - creature removal and game-breaking threats. Will, for example was powerful everywhere, but with blue's library manipulation, is a powerful vintage strat today

  • @ligerman30
    @ligerman30 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    WOG, Rolling Thunder, and Cyclonic Rift are all mass removal, it's sort of a different card. Also, you can't use maelstrom pulse on lands, you can't disrupt valikut or earthcraft+squirrel's nest or stop underworld connections ... Also, d-shpere can't stop d-shpere and o-ring while o-ring can stop both. Dreadbore on creatures is worse then go for the throat or doom blade, and strictly worse then terminate. On plainswalkers, it's amazing, but, not every deck runs them, especially in type 1.

  • @mythic456
    @mythic456 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm guessing it's because a lot of "U" decks splash green for goyf so they can get a huge amount of value out of the many spells they are playing.

  • @nukeme11
    @nukeme11 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Stoneforge mystic allowed blue decks to never have to tap out. If you didn't play a threat, it would drop strong equipment that would carry the game. If they did play a threat that they couldn't deal with, they'd counter it. Check out U/w Stoneforge in Legacy as well as Caw-Blade in recent Standard (that was so format-defining that it got banned)

  • @trymantha
    @trymantha 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    someone stuffed up the graphics, they are talking about elemental blasts and senseis pops up again

  • @theonecalledy2ckt
    @theonecalledy2ckt 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man, LSV and TSG will do anything to dodge the constant requests for Top 8 EDH commanders.
    I guess next week, we'll finally get Top 8 LSV weight loss secrets.

  • @aleczanderlane507
    @aleczanderlane507 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    *LotV casually scrolls by at $17.50, followed by Snapcaster Mage at $15*
    If only I had a time machine...

    • @ShiyokoCL
      @ShiyokoCL 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      on buylist prices? sure
      top kek i guess

    • @garrettclayton4741
      @garrettclayton4741 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Snaps will cost you around $50 each now, and you can sell they for $35+.

  • @mobrebel
    @mobrebel 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Red Elemental Blast (Sees Sensei's Divining Top again..........)

    • @subzero308
      @subzero308 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Trust me it checks out.

  • @Shadyguy111
    @Shadyguy111 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do these really only come out once per week? It seems like they come out every day (that's a good thing.)

  • @TylerOGuinn
    @TylerOGuinn 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Starts at 7:00. Unless you like banter unrelated to the video, start there.

  • @mikecondo
    @mikecondo 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    7:10 for the start of the top 8

  • @MordecaiandMonroe
    @MordecaiandMonroe 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    We have a saying about Tacoma. it's "The aroma in Tacoma" . As a Washingtonian I feel it Tacoma is a shitty factory district but Seattle is beautiful and has things to do besides a glass art museum.

  • @jewski6852
    @jewski6852 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    If this was in 2021, Veil of Summer

  • @zsdCKanVOIJANSO
    @zsdCKanVOIJANSO 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yawgmoth was basically the first snapcaster

  • @alpharage1090
    @alpharage1090 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    1. Maelstrom Pulse
    2. Vindicate
    3. Swords to Plowshares
    4. Detention Sphere
    5. Dreadbore
    6. Rolling Thunder
    7. Cyclonic Rift
    8. Wrath of God

  • @valawxedit
    @valawxedit 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow senseis devineing top looks remarkably like red elemental blast

  • @nateholt429
    @nateholt429 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    LSV totally nailed it on Tacoma lol! i live in Seattle and i hate driving thru Tacoma cuz you get that "Tacoma Aroma" newsflash; its not good.

  • @NemesiN
    @NemesiN 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Worlds in San Francisco had the Bacon Bacon Truck... Soooo goood.

  • @alpharage1090
    @alpharage1090 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No joke, I think these are good. What do you reckon the top 8 removal spells are then? Or name a few that would trump the cards I named. :)

  • @swizzzle63
    @swizzzle63 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can’t believe you’d diss painter like that

  • @7mean7bunny7
    @7mean7bunny7 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How about Atlanta where you won a GP LSV? :b

  • @alpharage1090
    @alpharage1090 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    true. I was kind of going for "effectiveness of getting rid of stuff, in a vacuum". I guess that's a very vague top 8 though.

  • @banihex
    @banihex 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    best mtg channel on youtube by far!

  • @DahAzn64
    @DahAzn64 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    LSV (if you see this): Henry's Hi-Life in San Jose, CA is pretty good.

  • @DucksAndDucks
    @DucksAndDucks 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Top 8 Top 8 lists at episode 200..." :/

  • @OlafKnolaf
    @OlafKnolaf 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kjeldoran Outpost, Nevinyrral's Disc and Icy Manipulator aren't getting any love. And all of those were a lot more important than Timely Reinforcements.

  • @nukeme11
    @nukeme11 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Stoneforge Mystic seems like a reasonable honorable mention.

  • @Flumpor
    @Flumpor 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best EDH Commanders ... it has been asked for weeks now.

  • @bretrooker7093
    @bretrooker7093 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sylvan Library, a VERY blue card.

  • @WUZLE
    @WUZLE 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    I normally enjoy these top 8 lists, but this one way just stupid. Yawgmoth's Will is blue? Will is brutal for ANY color. Someone's never gone Ritual-Ritual-Ritual-Will-Ritual-Ritual-Ritual-bring all your stuff back from the graveyard. Reenforcements, Goyf, Oath? No, those are cards with abilities related to THEIR colors. How about Wall of Blossoms? THAT should have been blue. The argument seems to be "If it's good, it must be blue." Top I agree with, THAT's a blue ability.

  • @masterhakk
    @masterhakk 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Caprinae is that even possible to make a top 8>?

  • @deathnotealex
    @deathnotealex 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    the top 8 best modern decks!!!!!!!!

  • @ligerman30
    @ligerman30 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    1. Vindicate
    2. Oblivion Ring/Detention Sphere
    3. Path to Exile/Swords to Plowshares
    4. Terminate
    5. Doom Blade/Go for the Throat
    6. Lightning Bolt
    7. ???
    8. ???

  • @someoneyouknow55
    @someoneyouknow55 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey in Chico Ca, Smoking Mo's BBQ is amazing!

  • @zoeyzolRS
    @zoeyzolRS 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you havent already done it, you should do worst rares of all time

  • @samwise210
    @samwise210 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    The point wasn't that the cities were bad places in and of themselves. The point was that the location and whatnot surrounding the GP location was awful.

  • @AlexTheAwesome1
    @AlexTheAwesome1 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Top 10 Best Removal Spells

  • @MrDebauch
    @MrDebauch 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    ah, i thought they would have things like the black counterspells and things like that... good list though.

  • @Rtiffany0466
    @Rtiffany0466 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    *Best Creatures with >5 Power.*
    Examples: Phyrexian Dreadnought, Aeons Torn, Etc.

  • @efnfen
    @efnfen 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks I love cities

  • @NicholasCobalt
    @NicholasCobalt 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    There's no reason they couldn't hold the GP at the Key Arena Events Center in Seattle. They have no excuse.

  • @darklight313
    @darklight313 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Faithless Looting. Love me a blue card!
    Also, Oke Joe's is the shit!
    Top 8 limited formats!

  • @DoomDG
    @DoomDG 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Criteria "Does not pitch to Force of Will"

  • @Prodigiousguy8
    @Prodigiousguy8 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    As suggested, top 8 removal spells

  • @Slagomancer
    @Slagomancer 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was going to be cute and say Psionic Blast, since it's a Red effect on a Blue card, but I don't think that's the point of the list :3

  • @user-qn2lx8tg6z
    @user-qn2lx8tg6z 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    11min in and kinda hopeing all the graphics is top.

  • @MaliciousIntent83
    @MaliciousIntent83 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tarmogoyf was my first guess when I saw the list name actually! And I never even got the chance to play with it :(

  • @jigan001
    @jigan001 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love how most of the comments are by super casual players who literally do not understand what this list is about.

  • @joshuapelletier8219
    @joshuapelletier8219 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Dismember.

  • @williamwilcox6031
    @williamwilcox6031 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    As far as the California BBQ, anywhere that serves good Tri-Tip is worth checking out

  • @alienplatypus7712
    @alienplatypus7712 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:13, if ur watching in 2015 you'll know the deal.

  • @twitchster77
    @twitchster77 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think it's about time LSV buys his co-host a new iPad. :P

  • @AnimatedOP
    @AnimatedOP 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why haven't we thought of this before!?
    JESUS!
    CHANGE SEATS GOD DAMMIT!

  • @JWbrasser
    @JWbrasser 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey guys, i was wondering what you guys would feel about a pro-tour//GP in some oddball format... I dunno EDH or 4 man FFA multiplayer or something (you'd need a scoring system to be able to do more then one game in a match)
    I would LOVE to hear the pro's arguing the merits of a krosan cloudscraper over a krosan collosus:P

  • @owentranchemontagne7799
    @owentranchemontagne7799 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ok, good choices but where is Yeva Nature’s Herald.

    • @icantpronounce
      @icantpronounce 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeva came out a few months after the video release

  • @Aassymcass
    @Aassymcass 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Top 8 most sinister black cards, please!

  • @Sweetestsadist
    @Sweetestsadist 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Alternate art Red Elemental Blast at 10:40

  • @NilsSF
    @NilsSF 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    You don't think 1 mile is walking distance? How did you lose all that weight?!

  • @Nurgleprobe
    @Nurgleprobe 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yea that's right. Sweden is awesome! :)

  • @GabrielLamarre
    @GabrielLamarre 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Neither TSG nor LSV play EDH, so don't expect them to make a top 8 and talk about it.

  • @dustinseth1
    @dustinseth1 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    no tendrils?

  • @BladedEdge123
    @BladedEdge123 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    While this is a sweet list. This seems more "Top 8 cards that go in predominantly blue decks which aren't themselves blue'. Where as when I read the title I think 'cards which should have a blue symbol in their mana cost, but do not.' Some of the cards make both lists but still, I was kinda disappointed.

  • @Nightwing690
    @Nightwing690 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    OMG, sensei's diving top "you spin this" wow LSV, just wow

  • @MyLittlePwnys
    @MyLittlePwnys 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Top 8 Draw Spells or Top 8 Discard Spells

  • @KAOSHazmatt
    @KAOSHazmatt 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    No mindcrank or jar of eyeballs either huh??

  • @PiroMunkie
    @PiroMunkie 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    They're comment about Nebraska just makes me want to leave this state even more, lol.

  • @davidhenry1421
    @davidhenry1421 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    yawgs will sees play in basically any vintage deck that plays black, it just so happens all those decks usually play blue (duh). However, because of that I would say darksteel/blightsteel would be a better fit into this category. It wasn't until very recently that kuldatha made these cards accessible with anything but tinker. And come on, tinker.

  • @McMinnville13
    @McMinnville13 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Top 8 sets

  • @twitchster77
    @twitchster77 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Top 8 1 drops (has this been done?)

  • @ligerman30
    @ligerman30 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    How about top 8 "non-blue" blue cards.

  • @Krobeles
    @Krobeles 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tarmagof? Seriusly? One of the most talked about and hyped spells gets 1st place? I had expected something new, something i hadn't heard 100.000.000 times before :/

  • @tronist
    @tronist 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    @ilbknight IKR! i was thinking "when the ffffffff will this start!?!"

  • @WoWtcger111
    @WoWtcger111 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Top 8 lsv-cards?

  • @MorrisJoshua26
    @MorrisJoshua26 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Darksteel Humphry FTW!!¡

  • @Lilith049
    @Lilith049 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    that is a weird red elemental blast....

  • @ilbknight
    @ilbknight 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    List starts at 6:55

  • @demios6657
    @demios6657 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    That REB was legendary

  • @Andulvar
    @Andulvar 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been to Toronto once, and I was there for 2 weeks, if you don't like the place, obviously you are to lazy to walk around. Take stroll down Queen Street or York,

  • @ConjuredMassacre
    @ConjuredMassacre 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    10:50 I was surprised no one said anything O.o not that i can see at least

  • @bobbyrulezyou
    @bobbyrulezyou 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Top 8 commanders!

  • @Badass087
    @Badass087 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    top 8 fun cards

  • @whammaster
    @whammaster 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    In Redding, CA thier are 2 awesome locations for BBQ. Fatty Daddys near enterprise high school, and The Brickhouse.
    The ribs at Fatty Daddys are fucking amazing, and the pulled pork at the Brickhouse is fucking amazing.
    Your welcome in advance.

  • @gamegeek2
    @gamegeek2 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Haven't seen the video yet.
    Prediction: Tarmogoyf #1

  • @TheKane2
    @TheKane2 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seriously? No Harmonize? I thought this list was about non-blue "blue" cards.. whats more blue than card drawing

    • @jigan001
      @jigan001 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Edward Gregory not everything is about card draw.

  • @Colinski03
    @Colinski03 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Number 1: Delver of Secrets

  • @denverboyd9953
    @denverboyd9953 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Anyone else feel like LSV is annoyed by this other guy? Maybe why they replaced him.

    • @pkfreezing
      @pkfreezing 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They were great friends. TSG was fired for allegations of stealing and selling cards from CFB

    • @azir64
      @azir64 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +isaiah tarver Not Allegations, the Ebay account was his.
      www.channelfireball.com/home/announcement-regarding-tristan-shaun-gregson/

    • @gileschenery3645
      @gileschenery3645 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +azir64 that's so grim

  • @Brandon75689
    @Brandon75689 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I do not think Timely reinforcements is a non-blue blue card at all. Also, artifacts do not count, because artifacts can mirror any color in the set. They usually just do it for a more a higher mana cost because they don't have to marry to a color. The first card that comes to mind when I think of non-blue blue spell is mana tithe. I have to fully disagree with this whole top 8, for its the most subjective one to date.

    • @Slapfight12
      @Slapfight12 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think they could have explained this a little better. I believe the intent was cards that go well with the typical blue deck. Not cards in other colors that have blue effects. So tarmogoyf is good for blue decks because it gives you a body for cheap. Temporal extortion would not make this list because it is a black card with a blue effect.

    • @Switchlurk
      @Switchlurk 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      They explained it pretty clearly, it's "Top 8 cards that saw play or were used by base blue decks despite not actually being blue". Sure artifacts CAN be used by any color but it's not like mono red burn is really interested in casting a div top or an engineered explosives.

  • @mickepanda4287
    @mickepanda4287 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Stop your bullshit fellow TH-camrs! You know what you want!
    WE WANT TRISTAN AND LUIS TO CHANGE SEATS!

  • @kottbulle
    @kottbulle 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sweden is awesome! Thanks :D

  • @sdgundum990
    @sdgundum990 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want to see a list for the best 1 drops ever.

  • @nimkees
    @nimkees 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Goyf is a blue card????? i dont think so its as green as green gets. a creature with power and toughness that far exceed its mana cost is the polar opposite of blue. Sorry guys i think u dropped the ball on this list = ( ps i know u didnt put BOB on the list but he is also as black as black gets.