Draft videos are posted at www.ChannelFire... Tristan Shaun Gregson sits down with Luis Scott-Vargas in this week's Top 8 episode from the "Magic TV" series.
I was playing legacy once and drew Iona in my opening hand along with reanimate. I was on the draw so i skipped playing my first land in order to discard Iona and then reanimate her on turn 2. That is one of my favorite memories ever.
I wish Phage would have been on this list. Her big ability just screams "legendary" to me. If you hit your opponent...the game is over. How much more legendary can you get than an Alt Win legend?
HaydenX i never understood that rule seriously we've already seen that planeswalkers can survive the deathtouch atleast the patriach's version of the death touch. In that jeska survived it and became phage. Why would phages touch destroy another planewalker. Especially when kamahl manages to survive it.
If only we had a true Yawgmoth card... Hell, having a picture of him would be nice. He's only depicted on one card and even then it's at the point where he's a shapeshifting god.
I've always enjoyed Solkanar, the Swamp King. But you guys covered the best ones I know, and a few I've only just seen. Thanks. Guessing TSG isn't a Leafs fan? :)
Back in the day my friend bought cards and made a deck around him. My friend didn't have many cards. I told him he should cut down the colors and just use 2 colors but he didn't listen. I crushed him and he didn't listen because he wanted to get him out. He never did, he ended up selling me his cards.
That's because Arcanis is one of the best blue creatures available for the commander format. He, Venser, Teferi, Consecrated Sphinx, Baral, and arguably Jin-Gitaxis are among the best blue has to offer as multiplayer EDH cards. I'm probably forgetting some really good ones though.
I remember starting playing around Fallen/Ice Age & thought "who is this "Marit Lage?" Later printing of Dark Depths is pretty flavorful. An evil planeswalking non-planeswalker?! Legendary.
Funny. LSV said that Elesh Norn wasn't worthy of being a mythic rare in the Hit or Myth video for the set and just a short time later he's putting her on the list of all-time legendary creatures. We all make mistakes!
He/she didn't put it in the best wording, but makemepop did say that Day destroys Progenitus. If you read the entire comment, as was requested of you, it says "Thing is, Day of Judgment doesn't do any of those things, so it still dies." What makemepop was saying was that Progenitus has protection from what Day of Judgement is, but then noted that even though it has protection from it, that protection is irrelevant because of what Day does. Please don't flame people. It's not any fun.
@ChannelFireball This may sound rediculous, but you guys should change the top 8 to the top 10 of the week. Seems like there can be much more cards put on these lists.
I didn't even know Clique was legendary until 10 minutes ago. Other than that this list really was legen.... wait for it.... and some more.... dary. Sorry, couldn't resist
for any of you that might think different you can go wizards.com and find out but i promise progenitus does die to wrath/damnation/ all creature effects not targeting him, that rule does not apply with anything else though you need a wrath effect to kill him, unlike ermakul which you can get rid of in a few different ways. but on that note i think they should have put the 3 eldrazi legends in the same rank spot..ulamog,kozilek, and emrakul
Eldrazi Green vs. Turbo Fog My best friend generates a shit ton of mana and hard-casts Emrakul. I couldn't do anything but...sacrifice my Spore Frogs with a Lifeline on the board. Emrakul was Annihilating his way through my permanents, but they'd just keep coming back. The only time I've ever seen an Emrakul not only cast, and not only played, but on the losing side of the board.
Both? She was Akroma's equal in fight! The only thing that managed to kill her was her own creation, with which Akroma was killed too! Cardwise? That's the biggest effect you could give to a card! If she touches someone, you win. Sure, it's hard to pull off, but the effect IS legendary! If Akroma's on the list, Phage sure as hell should be too! I personally don't think Baron Sanguir should be in there. But, that's not my list. Kudos on ChannelFireball's work still!
well Progenitus can never be in the graveyard (it will be put back into the library). But it could be countered with a Dissipate, or removed from the game with Slaughter Games or something similar.
Progenitus does have protection from Day of Judgment and from Karn's ultimate though. It has protection from EVERYTHING!!! ...The point is that 'protection' restricts what the ability does, not 'everything'. Therefore, it can't be damaged, equipped, fortified, enchanted, blocked or targeted by ANYTHING!!! Not even Day of Judgment. Thing is, Day of Judgment doesn't do any of those things, so it still dies.
Emrakul, the Aeons Torn and Progenitus = gods. Akroma = a servant of a god. So the epicness level is different. Btw i don't think Shaun and Luis remember but Sol'kanar the Swamp King was the dude to play back in the day not blackblade. On this list i have played nearly all these Legends as Generals and Arcanis is by far the most fun/powerful(except Emrakul)... Mono blue control tribal wizards in EDH is super fun.
no you are wrong if you were to read the errata for "protection for everything", you would learn that everything actually applies to being targeted, from colored and colorless spells and permanents, and being blocked or takeing damage by them. So, next time please know what your talking about because usernamesaregay222 is actually right. Progenitus is affected by world effects such as Day Of Judgement, Wrath Of God, Detention Sphere, Karn, so Progenitus would be gone.
Neither day of judgment or karn's ulti target progenitus, therefore progenitus can't do anything about it and is destroyed/huffled back into it's owner's deck.
Vendilion Clique is to me one of the least legendary creatures in Magic. Doesn't even have its own name, it's just a creature with "Legendary" stamped onto it.
Actually, Emrakul is a she, because apparently the Eldrazi actually have gender. Crazy, I know. Interestingly, the only Legendary in there 8 with a defined gender that isn't female is the Baron.
+TJForceIX Well, Eldrazi technically don't have genders. The titans however are referred to by the creators with pronouns: Ulamog and Kozilek as males and Emrakul as a female. Source: mtgsalvation.gamepedia.com/Emrakul
Shouldnt you hit with akroma ? :( Land, Ritual, Putrid imp, disc Bigg ass creature, reanimate, Win :). But yeah. i think thats not a too difficult hand to get. Or you can do careful study first and then next turn reanimate.
"Therefore, it can't be damaged, equipped, fortified, enchanted, blocked or targeted by ANYTHING!!! Not even Day of Judgment" Day of Judgment doesn't damage. Doesn't equip. Doesn't fortify. Doesn't enchant. Doesn't block. Doesn't target. It just destroys. Even Progenitus. Please, shut up.
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Phage the Untouchable
I was playing legacy once and drew Iona in my opening hand along with reanimate. I was on the draw so i skipped playing my first land in order to discard Iona and then reanimate her on turn 2. That is one of my favorite memories ever.
Karn Silver Golem!!! Was my first Legendary card. Love the Art, quote, & lore. P
Phage the Untouchable?
but but but. What about Skeleton Ship?
I wish Phage would have been on this list. Her big ability just screams "legendary" to me. If you hit your opponent...the game is over. How much more legendary can you get than an Alt Win legend?
HaydenX i never understood that rule seriously we've already seen that planeswalkers can survive the deathtouch atleast the patriach's version of the death touch. In that jeska survived it and became phage. Why would phages touch destroy another planewalker. Especially when kamahl manages to survive it.
New Arcanis art from dual decks, ooooooooh yeah! He's definitely one of my favorite legendaries.
Captain Sisay: The Legend of all Legends
Surprised I didn't see a Nicol Bolas on this list, personally.
All the elder dragons sucked
Nicol Bolas doesn't suck though.
If only we had a true Yawgmoth card...
Hell, having a picture of him would be nice. He's only depicted on one card and even then it's at the point where he's a shapeshifting god.
I remember the Sliver Queen years ago, Also remember the Unlimited Sliver Combo years and years ago back in year 2000, brings back memories
There will alwats be a place in my heart for Intet the Dreamer.
'i'm not art scientist'
I've always enjoyed Solkanar, the Swamp King. But you guys covered the best ones I know, and a few I've only just seen. Thanks. Guessing TSG isn't a Leafs fan? :)
Back in the day my friend bought cards and made a deck around him. My friend didn't have many cards. I told him he should cut down the colors and just use 2 colors but he didn't listen. I crushed him and he didn't listen because he wanted to get him out. He never did, he ended up selling me his cards.
Arcanis on this list makes me remember my old arcanis + krosan restorer + 2 immobilizing ink deck back in the day.
Good times good times.
I used Arcanus in Commander once and it actually helped me win against 6 other players.
That's because Arcanis is one of the best blue creatures available for the commander format. He, Venser, Teferi, Consecrated Sphinx, Baral, and arguably Jin-Gitaxis are among the best blue has to offer as multiplayer EDH cards. I'm probably forgetting some really good ones though.
Dat Arcanis....
Block, draw 3 cards, bounce back...
Makes me want to get one.
I remember starting playing around Fallen/Ice Age & thought "who is this "Marit Lage?" Later printing of Dark Depths is pretty flavorful. An evil planeswalking non-planeswalker?! Legendary.
Arcanis is one of my favorite legendary creatures, and definitely one of the best.
Karn the Silver Golem is a legendary creatures from Urza's saga. the fact that he becomes a planeswalker makes him all the more legendary.
Funny. LSV said that Elesh Norn wasn't worthy of being a mythic rare in the Hit or Myth video for the set and just a short time later he's putting her on the list of all-time legendary creatures. We all make mistakes!
This is great.One of my favorate legend is Phage the Untouchable.
He/she didn't put it in the best wording, but makemepop did say that Day destroys Progenitus. If you read the entire comment, as was requested of you, it says "Thing is, Day of Judgment doesn't do any of those things, so it still dies." What makemepop was saying was that Progenitus has protection from what Day of Judgement is, but then noted that even though it has protection from it, that protection is irrelevant because of what Day does.
Please don't flame people. It's not any fun.
i like this list, i agree with pretty much all the cards.
@ChannelFireball This may sound rediculous, but you guys should change the top 8 to the top 10 of the week. Seems like there can be much more cards put on these lists.
eight and a half tails... i love it.
I didn't even know Clique was legendary until 10 minutes ago.
Other than that this list really was legen.... wait for it.... and some more.... dary.
Sorry, couldn't resist
i first think of iona when i think of legendary. i loved playing polymorph to get iona, stormtide leviathan and emrakul out on turn 6. ^_^
I would have included Kamahl, Fist of Krosa. He is one of my favorites. I just love the walking overrun factor.
I understand that, that is what I was saying. I was saying how he's still affected by world affects, because they don't interact with his protection.
for any of you that might think different you can go wizards.com and find out but i promise progenitus does die to wrath/damnation/ all creature effects not targeting him, that rule does not apply with anything else though you need a wrath effect to kill him, unlike ermakul which you can get rid of in a few different ways. but on that note i think they should have put the 3 eldrazi legends in the same rank spot..ulamog,kozilek, and emrakul
I'm laughing so hard at art scientist
can progenitus be targeted in the graveyard/library/hand? I didn't know if protection/hexproof/shroud stopped that kind of targeting
i was actually just thinking today
"man...why haven't they done a top 8 legends??"
Top 8 iconic/staple magic cards.
Eldrazi Green vs. Turbo Fog
My best friend generates a shit ton of mana and hard-casts Emrakul. I couldn't do anything but...sacrifice my Spore Frogs with a Lifeline on the board. Emrakul was Annihilating his way through my permanents, but they'd just keep coming back. The only time I've ever seen an Emrakul not only cast, and not only played, but on the losing side of the board.
Isamaru Hound is great, in my G/W commander, as well as every deck with white, i've made since its release
Lord of Tresserhorn, Nicol Bolas, Sol’Kanar, Hazezon Tamar
Both? She was Akroma's equal in fight! The only thing that managed to kill her was her own creation, with which Akroma was killed too!
Cardwise? That's the biggest effect you could give to a card! If she touches someone, you win. Sure, it's hard to pull off, but the effect IS legendary! If Akroma's on the list, Phage sure as hell should be too! I personally don't think Baron Sanguir should be in there. But, that's not my list. Kudos on ChannelFireball's work still!
Watched 4 top 8s so far. I have seen Lin Sivvi, Defiant Hero four times. :o
Memnarch. Cause running artifact lands/accel + soulscour + memnarch = good times. :P
By legendary i think LSV means like its has SO much flavor that it had to be legendary, And there are no other cards like it.
well Progenitus can never be in the graveyard (it will be put back into the library). But it could be countered with a Dissipate, or removed from the game with Slaughter Games or something similar.
Progenitus does have protection from Day of Judgment and from Karn's ultimate though. It has protection from EVERYTHING!!!
...The point is that 'protection' restricts what the ability does, not 'everything'. Therefore, it can't be damaged, equipped, fortified, enchanted, blocked or targeted by ANYTHING!!! Not even Day of Judgment. Thing is, Day of Judgment doesn't do any of those things, so it still dies.
if so then tell me what Day Of Judgement is targetting? or what it's supposedly doing on that last you just made
Urza, Right?
Jaya Ballard? (I think that is how you spell it) If nothing else for the awesome flavor text she is quoted in!
Aroma is that good? I think I have her in a box somewhere. Oh I've got Lin Sivi too.
TOP 8 ARTWORKS !!!!!!!!!!!
Emrakul, the Aeons Torn and Progenitus = gods.
Akroma = a servant of a god.
So the epicness level is different.
Btw i don't think Shaun and Luis remember but Sol'kanar the Swamp King was the dude to play back in the day not blackblade.
On this list i have played nearly all these Legends as Generals and Arcanis is by far the most fun/powerful(except Emrakul)... Mono blue control tribal wizards in EDH is super fun.
Dark Depths
Top 8 Planeswalkers!
i thought gerrard, capashen would be on here cause we've read about him and stuff. he was the hero of the whole game.
apparently you have to do the legends service....
Top 8 Non-creature Legends
forgive me if you already did this, but top 8 best EDH/commander generals
I’ve hard cast Emrakul against Death’s Shadow with my Breach deck.
Is this your way of giving us a commander list without actually just admitting that you don't care about commander?
yeah elesh norn! Straight boss.
no you are wrong if you were to read the errata for "protection for everything", you would learn that everything actually applies to being targeted, from colored and colorless spells and permanents, and being blocked or takeing damage by them. So, next time please know what your talking about because usernamesaregay222 is actually right. Progenitus is affected by world effects such as Day Of Judgement, Wrath Of God, Detention Sphere, Karn, so Progenitus would be gone.
I miss Phage and Spirit of the Night here.
Top 8 Commander Generals/Archetypes?
Neither day of judgment or karn's ulti target progenitus, therefore progenitus can't do anything about it and is destroyed/huffled back into it's owner's deck.
i was thinking nicol bolas as he is the strongest of the elder dragons which are older then dirt
I'm pretty sure Griselbrand would make this list if it were redone...
That has to be one of the most legendary bitch slap ever ^.^
I was half expecting Gerrard Capashen.
I don't like LSV's explanation of progenitus. "is day of judgement a thing?" "is karn's ulti a thing?"
Two of those are planeswalkers, unless you mean the old Nicol Bolas. And wtf Jhoira?
What happened to Phage?
sliver queen + mana echoes?
Vendilion Clique is to me one of the least legendary creatures in Magic. Doesn't even have its own name, it's just a creature with "Legendary" stamped onto it.
top 8 cards that should be legendary.
"Top 8 Legendaries that cost 3 or less mana"...wait, did this video spawn the idea for Tiny Leaders?
TURN ONE:mille Akroma form your hand
TURN TWO: Swamp, reanimate her, hit for six
look up and say GO!!
Actually, Emrakul is a she, because apparently the Eldrazi actually have gender. Crazy, I know.
Interestingly, the only Legendary in there 8 with a defined gender that isn't female is the Baron.
+TJForceIX Well, Eldrazi technically don't have genders. The titans however are referred to by the creators with pronouns: Ulamog and Kozilek as males and Emrakul as a female.
Source: mtgsalvation.gamepedia.com/Emrakul
TJForceIX they have these pronouns because the people on zendikar remembered and worshipped them as gods and called a female for whatever reason.
whats the card thats in the plant pot
+bacon Bliss
A Raging Cougar from Portal set.
thx was curious was bothering me
Where is Nicol Bolas on this list?? He is reading a book on the original art for crying out loud
Sliver King, WUBRG
Legendary Creature - Sliver Lord
Do everything Sliver Queen does except better...
8/8
where is phage the untouchable ?
Why no teferi?
How many videos feature Lin Sivvi already?! I get it, stuff of legends, move on!!
No Jhoira, Karn, or Nicol Bolas?
Kokusho, the Evening Star.
Top 8 creatures with flash.
LSG is a national treasure!!
WHAT?!?!?!? STILL NO WURMCOIL?!?!
karn is a complete badass
Shouldnt you hit with akroma ? :(
Land, Ritual, Putrid imp, disc Bigg ass creature, reanimate, Win :).
But yeah. i think thats not a too difficult hand to get. Or you can do careful study first and then next turn reanimate.
This is probably the closest thing LSV and TSG will come to doing Top 8 EDH Generals.
"Emrakul" "He" TRIGGERED
Best comment ive ever seen on youtube :3
Best
I remember when I bought Cliques for $3.00 bucks
id like to say that ive won the game after my opponent polymorphed into an emrakul. he was at 1, i had to creatures (:
"Therefore, it can't be damaged, equipped, fortified, enchanted, blocked or targeted by ANYTHING!!! Not even Day of Judgment"
Day of Judgment doesn't damage. Doesn't equip. Doesn't fortify. Doesn't enchant. Doesn't block. Doesn't target.
It just destroys. Even Progenitus.
Please, shut up.
Thalia
I miss Phage here.
what, no wurmcoil?
Top 8 Tutors
Demonic tutor would be number one