The ‘nooooo bro you don’t get it, I’ve been an eagles player since 1st edition’ thing is starting to sound a lot like certain tau players in a certain 40k edition
I would argue that this edition is not for smaller games of 450, it’s build more for 750 pts and up. I think the reason why eagles are strong is because of the points limit. These would fall off a bit if more armies could take more points
Do you think Will there be any chance for Fangorn in this new edition? Eagles got the buffs, Fangorn, in a certain way, too. But It doesn't look like they are competitive now.
Definitely some potential for them. The Dominant rule gives them a big boost in all objective holding scenarios, and plus each profile including the generic warriors were all improved from last edition!
@@intothewestpodcast The Eagles got the fledglings which is great, but why didn't the Ents get Huorns!? Maybe in the 3rd armies book, considering they were in the books, but i thought they were mentioned in the movies as well. Strange oversight to leave them out when it would make Ents much more playable.
You definitely have a point, in The Two Towers we see a group of Huorons march to Helm’s Deep to ambush the surviving Uruks. It’s unfortunate we didn’t get a profile for them.
So thats the answer to Gwaihir getting allied in to most good armies last edition, just make a list with zero options or choices better than everything else. GW masterclass.
There is an Uruk Scout captain leading the scouts. Looks like it was just missing a space between warbands, which made it look like the scouts are in Grishnakh’s warband.
Man I knew coming into this there would be a lot of Great Eagle spam and i'm so sad to be right. Makes this all incredibly boring, honestly. Hoping they don't scale well and we'll stop seeing them more at 600+ pts.
Yeah we do wish it was more varied as well, but take the results with a grain of salt as it's super low points and only one major tournament so far, I'm sure people will figure out counters!
11-20 didn't really have eagles, also keep in mind this is at 450 points but I agree it's a bit unfortunate that one list was able to dominate so quickly into the new edition.
Well i think from 600 up you get the right tools, 1 to 2 big heroes like fornost, take out an eagle a turn, magic like saruman , once you can neutralize gwaihirs positioning you go alot, little might, grima etc
Guess the early Gwahir gets the worm.
We didn't know how good we had it when we just complained about Misty Mountains yellow alliance
So many birbs... but then if the model was reasonably costed we'd be seeing all kinds of Smaugs too!
The ‘nooooo bro you don’t get it, I’ve been an eagles player since 1st edition’ thing is starting to sound a lot like certain tau players in a certain 40k edition
I would argue that this edition is not for smaller games of 450, it’s build more for 750 pts and up. I think the reason why eagles are strong is because of the points limit. These would fall off a bit if more armies could take more points
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this meta's for the birds.
Do you think Will there be any chance for Fangorn in this new edition? Eagles got the buffs, Fangorn, in a certain way, too. But It doesn't look like they are competitive now.
Definitely some potential for them. The Dominant rule gives them a big boost in all objective holding scenarios, and plus each profile including the generic warriors were all improved from last edition!
@@intothewestpodcast The Eagles got the fledglings which is great, but why didn't the Ents get Huorns!? Maybe in the 3rd armies book, considering they were in the books, but i thought they were mentioned in the movies as well. Strange oversight to leave them out when it would make Ents much more playable.
You definitely have a point, in The Two Towers we see a group of Huorons march to Helm’s Deep to ambush the surviving Uruks. It’s unfortunate we didn’t get a profile for them.
Last 700p tournament i beat eagles with... corsair fleets xd and get 4/2 it's not bad armylist
You absolute Chad playing corsairs right now!
@@intothewestpodcastwaiting for Corsair Arbalesters
So thats the answer to Gwaihir getting allied in to most good armies last edition, just make a list with zero options or choices better than everything else. GW masterclass.
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Curious how they ruled Radagast’s Nature’s Wrath spell. Is it just a 5+ he falls off his eagle.
Gwahir should cost 220 at least
That might be a bit much haha but I agree 175-200 seems fair.
200 seems fair
I think 150 is fine for only having 3 might his stats aren’t good enough for 200+ points
Is it me or the third player Ugluk's scout is not legal ?
He cannot put Uruk warriors in Grishnakh warband, as per the rules of the list.
There is an Uruk Scout captain leading the scouts. Looks like it was just missing a space between warbands, which made it look like the scouts are in Grishnakh’s warband.
@intothewestpodcast My bad. Thanks for the quick answer.
I'm assuming eagles all over the place
... 😬 Maybe...
However, we also did look at lists 11-20 and there were a lot less eagles there.
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Man I knew coming into this there would be a lot of Great Eagle spam and i'm so sad to be right. Makes this all incredibly boring, honestly. Hoping they don't scale well and we'll stop seeing them more at 600+ pts.
Yeah we do wish it was more varied as well, but take the results with a grain of salt as it's super low points and only one major tournament so far, I'm sure people will figure out counters!
Most boring meta ever. Just eagles.
11-20 didn't really have eagles, also keep in mind this is at 450 points but I agree it's a bit unfortunate that one list was able to dominate so quickly into the new edition.
@@intothewestpodcast That's true. Maybe they fall short at 6-700. Let's hope so:)
bare in mind that we have a whole book with even more lists coming later in the year, which will undoubtedly shake up the perceived meta at this time!
Well i think from 600 up you get the right tools, 1 to 2 big heroes like fornost, take out an eagle a turn, magic like saruman , once you can neutralize gwaihirs positioning you go alot, little might, grima etc
They will probably get a nerv next faq
just ban the eagles already. what is even the point of playing the game
450 is far from the norm, I very much doubt eagles will end up being that common.
Yeah ban the armies I can’t steam roll