I guess he figured that if he tried to protect Davros, he'd be exterminated and Davros would be captured anyway and he wouldn't be able to help Davros out later on.
All the brilliant moments in these confrontations and I’ve literally just noticed at 1:56 Terry/Davros is mouthing like you know when someone argues you to the point where you just can’t find any words. Terry gives Davros’ frustration in that moment, blink and you’ll miss it but Davros goes from triumphant to arrested in such quick time. His arguments are brushed away, the grey Daleks don’t recognise The Doctor. He’s taken away like a child summoned to bed. And he wants to say something that will reassert his power but there is absolutely nothing he can do or say so you have the movement to form words but nothing is said, it’s quite brilliant.
@@raptorfae.6645 In Lancaster where I live, there's an ALDI right next-door to a FUNERAL DIRECTOR! ....... To be honest, it puts me off having DEAD BODIES stored so close to FOOD! 👎😂
Alternate ending: Dalek: “His image does not compute with the known appearance of the Doctor” Davros: “Then scan him! He has obviously regenerated!” Dalek: “Scanning…. ALERT! BINARY VASCULAR SYSTEM DETECTED! YOU ARE THE DOCTOR! EXTERMINATE!” Doctor: “Well Davros, I’ve got to hand it to you”
He was terrible. Complete Ham. I’m sure he’s a nice bloke but you shouldn’t be given the role of the Doctor off the back of being amusing at a garden party JNT went to (that guy wasn’t right in the head)
He was sabotaged & made to play what ever JNT wanted. He detested the coat, & I think he was correct in wanting having a dark navy big collar Edwardian get up. But NO! JNT Had to have an amalgamation of his Hawaiian Shirt collection. Can't take him seriously.
Interesting how Daleks actually had trials and a functioning justice system back in the day. They didn't just exterminate you on the spot, there was some kind of civilization about them.
Audio story "I, Davros" had an interesting twist on the "stand trial" line. Check out the video here on TH-cam titled "I, Davros - Based on a Big Finish Production"
It actually makes sense when you consider the fact that skaro had a work class system of daleks. After they were destroyed and all chain of command besides the emperor with the daleks was lost. They became severally impulsively and fearful without any sense of actual plan or direction. I think the emperor actually became insane long before his God like ideologies came into play.
“You are on trial!” “Daleks, holding a trial?! How low you’ve sunk without me. I do not recognise the authority of this court! What crimes am I accused of!?” “No crimes! You are on trial!” “What are you talking about!? How can I be on trial if I am - ah. I see. I feel like second-hand goods. What are you... trying me out for?”
Davros: Creates Daleks and gives them free roam mode. Daleks: Exterminate! Davros: Creates new Daleks in opposition to the Dalek Empire. Daleks: Arrest Davros on charges and give him a trial.
Very noticeable is the fact that more often than not when the dalek props appeared on screen they remained pretty much inanimate objects , their limbs rarely moved at all, other than a bit of gliding about and the odd head swivel that's all we got, watch practically any dalek episode and it holds true. The gun and arms were designed to move in all directions but remain rigid eye stalks rarely moved either, it's a shame the operators did not make them move about more to make them more convincing
This was made 9 years after Genesis of the Daleks...but the fact that it was shot on video as opposed to film makes it seem lower quality. They weren't spending enough money on the show. Davros looks bigger than the original Michael Wisher one
I feel this episode is actually very underrated and under appreciated it’s a very clever story around the premise of politics, lies, dictatorship, manipulation and deceit. By far the best part of this story is Terry Molloy as Davros. His line delivery is impeccable and he has good chemistry with the 6th doctor. However the one part I cannot forgive in this story is the Dalek voices. They are so bad. Not due to the voice actor himself but the lack of modulation so they sound mostly like someone shouting really loudly xx
Interesting that the Daleks would willingly accept Davros's mutants as the whole point of the Daleks was to exterminate anything that wasn't originally Kaled. Then again, they probably wanted more cannon fodder.
I've never seen the episode but I thought the daleks were arresting him for trying to make the new daleks, which he tried before in resurrection where the "renegades" (the originals who should really be the imperials) ordered them to be exterminated, and again in remembrance where it was all out race war.
@@bangerbangerbro No, in Resurrection Davros tampers with "pure" Daleks to make them loyal, and then escapes when the Dalek ship is blown up. Somewhere between that and Revelations he goes to war with the Daleks, and thus starts creating his own Daleks that are non-Kaled and loyal to him. After Revelations he's taken back to Skaro, but somehow ends up taking over, which leads to the pure Daleks being Renegades and whatever Davros has created being Imperials.
The Dalek Handbook states that the Imperial Daleks that Davros created on Necros (the ones that survive the explosion at the end of Revelation) were taken back to Skaro due to a shortage of dalek troops caused by the Movellan virus, the effects of which we saw in Resurrection. This process failed and the Imperial Daleks gained control of Skaro with Davros as their Emporer, forcing the Supreme Dalek and those loyal to him (now the Renegade Daleks) to flee, thus setting up the events of Rememberance.
Daleks literally 2 meters apart can't hit each other, but one dude just appears in the distance shooting and gets instantly shot in the cross fire. Storm troopers don't seem that bad at shooting anymore.
@@MrSniperfox29 Probably something to do with targeting systems and programming. They see anything else as inferior and free reign, the targeting goes for it automatically.. but seeing another dalek? There's a hesitation, no matter which side they're on. As if harming another of their kind is an antithesis to what it "means" to be a dalek in the first place
@@krel7160 perhaps each side travel machines have built in devices to effect each others aiming system. The extra content of doctor who really likes adding a bunch of details to dalek casings that make them seem much more effective.
ORCINI should use his CHAMPIONS SUPERHUMAN POWERS to destroy the DALEK that sound like ZIPPY FROM RAINBOW! 🌈 😂 I'm sure that NEMESIS and TREMAYNE would approve of DAVROS' capture! 👍😂
They took the master to trial. Maybe it's something they have for people they consider to important for them to exterminate right away around this time. Pretty sure they had worked together sometime beforehand
Have you noticed the set the grey Daleks move through at the beginning is the same one as the Incubation room? Looks like they've even left some of the set dressing just visible on the right as they're about to pass. Did they run out of sets before entering Davros's control centre??? 😂
Colin is reliably brilliant in this and the rest of the cast are pretty good but the story is ratrher flawed. I am going to read Eric Saward's novelisation and imagine that will change my mind.
I guess he figured that it best just to give up as he was outnumbered and would've been exterminated if he resisted plus it wouldn't have saved Davros anyway.
The one thing I found a bit odd with this scene, as well as Revelation's in general is; there is no "deep" sounding Dalek, like the ones in Resurrection and Remembrance - I understood Genesis since they were at the "beginning" but I always found it odd. Still, worth a watch all the same - Terry does an excellent job as Davros!
@@szabm3179 You do realise there are three who Dalek stories that RotD could refer to. Remembrance, Revelation, Resurrection. Doesn't exactly narrow it down very much.
Would be even more disrespectful to do that. Roy Skelton was a bit of a legend and the main voice of the Daleks for two decades. There were modulator issues on this one.
Actually, the Necrosian Daleks (Davro’s Daleks) were supposed to sound like that. The director wanted them to sound more human because they were converts. I love how he puts in that detail then doesn’t make the grey Daleks sound normal so you can hear a difference. Smh.
Sean Jeffery The reason they sound this way is because the director wanted the Necrosis daleks to sound more human. It just so happened they could be bothered to do fix the voice modulation for the skate daleks
How is this terrible? It's errie and grim, it honestly sound like a 80s version of the errie tracks from Dead Planet, Master Plan and Power of The Daleks.
I recognize and I appreciate Dr. WHO fans. However, it is a Syfy series that I never could quite get into. To be fair, I never liked any Syfy series or movies. Maybe it's because my parents would take me to spooky scary outer space and alien movies in the 1950s and some of them scared the jumping bejeezus out of me and gave me nightmares. One, in particular, was Forbidden Planet with the ID monster and another was This Island Earth with the hideous mutant monsters - but there were others I didn't like too. So, the Daleks, and Davros seemed just plain idiotic and cartoonish to me - like a puppet or marionette show. The squished fish guts, octopus-tentacled, one-eyed or two-eyed Kaled mutant inside of a Dalek and the Supreme Dalek as a giant mutated brain tumor mass, that was the central brain - made me laugh out loud. And for my lack of respect, I know I would be "EXTERMINATED" and my juicy juice siphoned by a Dalek! Like I mentioned - I just don't get the series popularity.
Daleks are definitely overrated imo. I like other aspects of the show esp Cybermen and weeping angels but I can't think of a single Dalek story I really love
@Em haha, I’d say so yeah. Although the TV movie voice is as bad as revelation. And at least the day of the daleks had ring mod going on, revelation had none at all.
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I like how the Davros instinctively reached out to shake the doctor’s hand only to realise he has no hand and that he hates the doctor.
I love how that Imperial Dalek in the background just quietly slides away when the Renegades come in! "Oh, OK then I'll be just over here..."
He just wants a new job in the next serial :P
If u can see you can see a grey dalek take it as prisoner obviously
Dalek: are you the doctor?
Doctor: no
Dalek:ok
2:09 I love how the doctor tries to shake his hand pissing off davros even more
0:54 I love that Imperial Dalek in the back ground doing sod all to help Davros, then he just skuttles away.
Does rather just sit there and do nothing doesn't it. It had the power to stop things at that point yet took no action.
I guess he figured that if he tried to protect Davros, he'd be exterminated and Davros would be captured anyway and he wouldn't be able to help Davros out later on.
"Oh arses, I seem to be a bit outnumbered. Think I'll just sit back here quietly pretending to do some paperwork" 🤭
Actually looking again, the dalek was taken prisoner. You can just about see the renegade dalek escort him away.
He's not missing his tea break for anything.
All the brilliant moments in these confrontations and I’ve literally just noticed at 1:56 Terry/Davros is mouthing like you know when someone argues you to the point where you just can’t find any words. Terry gives Davros’ frustration in that moment, blink and you’ll miss it but Davros goes from triumphant to arrested in such quick time. His arguments are brushed away, the grey Daleks don’t recognise The Doctor. He’s taken away like a child summoned to bed. And he wants to say something that will reassert his power but there is absolutely nothing he can do or say so you have the movement to form words but nothing is said, it’s quite brilliant.
0:20 No harm in trying.
Love how he says that after "trying" got Davros's hand blown off.
0:55 I love how that one necros dalek was just like ''nah fuck this imma go with the other daleks fuck you Davros''.
Sixth Doctor: And I shall be waiting for you. Can we "shake" on that?
Episode should be renamed to "Everyone apparently hates Davros."
Josh23761 so true
"Never trust a man who runs a funeral home and a supermarket out of the same building.
@@raptorfae.6645 In Lancaster where I live, there's an ALDI right next-door to a FUNERAL DIRECTOR! ....... To be honest, it puts me off having DEAD BODIES stored so close to FOOD! 👎😂
@@marcse7en POV: it’s davros running that Aldi and the funeral home
Alternate ending:
Dalek: “His image does not compute with the known appearance of the Doctor”
Davros: “Then scan him! He has obviously regenerated!”
Dalek: “Scanning…. ALERT! BINARY VASCULAR SYSTEM DETECTED! YOU ARE THE DOCTOR! EXTERMINATE!”
Doctor: “Well Davros, I’ve got to hand it to you”
I know some people didn’t like Colin Baker’s doctor but I loved the sarcastic, bitchy edge the character had.
He was so good they brought in Tom Baker to be the second Baker in the role of Doctor Who.
I’m sorry what? You do realize that Tom Baker is the 4th Doctor and Colin is the 6th?!?
I’m glad that he got his time to shine in the audio dramas.
Sarcastic, yes, but not the other adjective.
@@rigatonipasta
"The past, present and future are all illusions".
Albert Einstein.
Fantastic serial. I think it was one of the best of the "classic" Dr. Who era
lmao he tried to shake his hand what a savage
Colin Baker was so unfairly treated. I thought he was so good. Should have let him have another season.
Yes but the BBC had it in for DW and wanted it gone, because it wasn't a mundane drama or 5 hour sports programme
It’s all Mary Whitehouse’s fault. That bitch and her clean up TV shit.
He was terrible. Complete Ham. I’m sure he’s a nice bloke but you shouldn’t be given the role of the Doctor off the back of being amusing at a garden party JNT went to (that guy wasn’t right in the head)
@@davidfoxall3344 You aren't wrong.
He was sabotaged & made to play what ever JNT wanted. He detested the coat, & I think he was correct in wanting having a dark navy big collar Edwardian get up. But NO! JNT Had to have an amalgamation of his Hawaiian Shirt collection. Can't take him seriously.
Interesting how Daleks actually had trials and a functioning justice system back in the day. They didn't just exterminate you on the spot, there was some kind of civilization about them.
I think they had it exclusive for Davros as they look at what to do with him.
Audio story "I, Davros" had an interesting twist on the "stand trial" line. Check out the video here on TH-cam titled "I, Davros - Based on a Big Finish Production"
@@mitchjames9350 Nope. The Master was put on trial by the Daleks right before the events of the movie.
It actually makes sense when you consider the fact that skaro had a work class system of daleks. After they were destroyed and all chain of command besides the emperor with the daleks was lost. They became severally impulsively and fearful without any sense of actual plan or direction. I think the emperor actually became insane long before his God like ideologies came into play.
“He will be held prisoner until we can verify if you are correct.”
*slides out and leaves*
MarxistKnight Sorry for the late reply but in the next scene a Dalek goes back to check on them but they destroy it.
Very polite for a dalek usually it's just 'EXTERMINATE!!'
Colin Baker should have said, "Doctor? Who is The Doctor?" 🤷♂️
“You are on trial!”
“Daleks, holding a trial?! How low you’ve sunk without me. I do not recognise the authority of this court! What crimes am I accused of!?”
“No crimes! You are on trial!”
“What are you talking about!? How can I be on trial if I am - ah. I see. I feel like second-hand goods. What are you... trying me out for?”
INTERROGATE!
Just listened to the rest of I, Davros on Spotify
You've got to love the hand shake at the end lol!!
+Agui007 i love how they both actually went to shake hands XD then davros realises he has no hand
Very humiliating...
"No 'arm in trying"
"how did you find me" i say that to my wife every morning 😂
0:19 no ARM in trying...nice
6th doctor straight up savage
Jason Li I feel like the six doctor realized his mistake of letting Davros live when he was the fifth doctor
Or the 12th!
Zippy doing the Dalek voices and some old control consoles from UFO. Those were the days...
Roy Skelton actually didn't do these ones.
Robert Gardiner he did
This was a very good episode
I love this one. Certainly one of the best 6th ones
"He's regenerated, fool!"
I love the way the last imperial dalek just wondered off when Davros was confronted by renegade daleks.
“No arm in trying”
~ sixth doctor, revelation of the Daleks
1:28 you will come with us
NOOOOOOOO!!!
Davros: Creates Daleks and gives them free roam mode.
Daleks: Exterminate!
Davros: Creates new Daleks in opposition to the Dalek Empire.
Daleks: Arrest Davros on charges and give him a trial.
One of the best of the sixth.
Love how that one guy turned up behind the Imperial Daleks and just got gunned down instantly.
“They’re going to destroy davros’ daleks”
Daleks - OH SHUT UP, LEN!
Still ranks high as one of my favourite episodes
Just casualy goes for a handshake but realises, he doesnt have a hand anymore😆
2:06 HAHAHAAHHA oh man, 6th Doctor is a savage
2:11 the Davros drift
Davros: You will suffer for every indignity you've ever caused me
The doctor's face: ffs not this again
Love this story
0:31 man such a intense battle
Peri should be glad that she didn't get to see the remorseless creator of the Daleks again.
Very noticeable is the fact that more often than not when the dalek props appeared on screen they remained pretty much inanimate objects , their limbs rarely moved at all, other than a bit of gliding about and the odd head swivel that's all we got, watch practically any dalek episode and it holds true. The gun and arms were designed to move in all directions but remain rigid eye stalks rarely moved either, it's a shame the operators did not make them move about more to make them more convincing
This was made 9 years after Genesis of the Daleks...but the fact that it was shot on video as opposed to film makes it seem lower quality. They weren't spending enough money on the show. Davros looks bigger than the original Michael Wisher one
1:40 Kinda weird how the Daleks didn't just kill the doctor anyway
I CAN MAKE YOU ALL SUPREME DALEKS!!! I HAVE THE POWER YOU MUST OBEY MEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!
How did you find meeeeeeeeee 😂
I feel this episode is actually very underrated and under appreciated it’s a very clever story around the premise of politics, lies, dictatorship, manipulation and deceit. By far the best part of this story is Terry Molloy as Davros. His line delivery is impeccable and he has good chemistry with the 6th doctor.
However the one part I cannot forgive in this story is the Dalek voices. They are so bad. Not due to the voice actor himself but the lack of modulation so they sound mostly like someone shouting really loudly xx
Peri is so damn beautiful there!
1:40 He meant, "He's Doctor Who".
No the doctor is right he is the doctor he Was called doctor who just in the peter cushing movies
dude drifts off at the end
Interesting that the Daleks would willingly accept Davros's mutants as the whole point of the Daleks was to exterminate anything that wasn't originally Kaled. Then again, they probably wanted more cannon fodder.
I've never seen the episode but I thought the daleks were arresting him for trying to make the new daleks, which he tried before in resurrection where the "renegades" (the originals who should really be the imperials) ordered them to be exterminated, and again in remembrance where it was all out race war.
@@bangerbangerbro No, in Resurrection Davros tampers with "pure" Daleks to make them loyal, and then escapes when the Dalek ship is blown up.
Somewhere between that and Revelations he goes to war with the Daleks, and thus starts creating his own Daleks that are non-Kaled and loyal to him.
After Revelations he's taken back to Skaro, but somehow ends up taking over, which leads to the pure Daleks being Renegades and whatever Davros has created being Imperials.
@@MrSniperfox29 oh ok. That makes more sense. Thank you.
The Dalek Handbook states that the Imperial Daleks that Davros created on Necros (the ones that survive the explosion at the end of Revelation) were taken back to Skaro due to a shortage of dalek troops caused by the Movellan virus, the effects of which we saw in Resurrection.
This process failed and the Imperial Daleks gained control of Skaro with Davros as their Emporer, forcing the Supreme Dalek and those loyal to him (now the Renegade Daleks) to flee, thus setting up the events of Rememberance.
Daleks literally 2 meters apart can't hit each other, but one dude just appears in the distance shooting and gets instantly shot in the cross fire. Storm troopers don't seem that bad at shooting anymore.
Daleks do seem to have trouble shooting each other
@@MrSniperfox29 Probably something to do with targeting systems and programming. They see anything else as inferior and free reign, the targeting goes for it automatically.. but seeing another dalek? There's a hesitation, no matter which side they're on. As if harming another of their kind is an antithesis to what it "means" to be a dalek in the first place
@@krel7160 but the daleks in question aren’t kaled mutants, they’re whatever davros shoved into the mark IV travel machine
@@krel7160 perhaps each side travel machines have built in devices to effect each others aiming system. The extra content of doctor who really likes adding a bunch of details to dalek casings that make them seem much more effective.
I read a comment saying the lasers are being side tracked by their shields. The effect of it just looks bad and confusing.
1:07 when somebody gives Chris Chibnall the boot
ORCINI should use his CHAMPIONS SUPERHUMAN POWERS to destroy the DALEK that sound like ZIPPY FROM RAINBOW! 🌈 😂 I'm sure that NEMESIS and TREMAYNE would approve of DAVROS' capture! 👍😂
Since when would Daleks ever have a trial?
Well there's a bloody Dalek parliament so I don't find it that confusing
"Bring him to me! I wish to EXTERMINATE the one known as Davros MYSELF!!!"
They took the master to trial. Maybe it's something they have for people they consider to important for them to exterminate right away around this time. Pretty sure they had worked together sometime beforehand
Good story spoilt by the horrible incidental music. Total distraction.
Have you noticed the set the grey Daleks move through at the beginning is the same one as the Incubation room? Looks like they've even left some of the set dressing just visible on the right as they're about to pass. Did they run out of sets before entering Davros's control centre??? 😂
They haven't quite got the modulator right, have they! Roy Skelton sounds as though he is being strangled.
*When did Zippy turn into a Dalek?*
Rainbow went a bit dark in its later years.
*Don't tell me Bungle is now a cyberman!*
1967. Roy Skelton voiced the daleks long before he started voicing Zippy...
But these Daleks aren't being voiced by Roy Skelton. Think it's Royce Mills
Robert Gardiner No, these voices are definitely Roy Skelton's.
Colin is reliably brilliant in this and the rest of the cast are pretty good but the story is ratrher flawed. I am going to read Eric Saward's novelisation and imagine that will change my mind.
So what happened to the White Dalek at 0:55?
georgeowain not activated
I meant the White Dalek present with Davros, and then just leaves as the old Daleks enter the room.
georgeowain (sorry for the late reply) I guess it was like *NOPE, not even gonna try and stop them*.
I guess he figured that it best just to give up as he was outnumbered and would've been exterminated if he resisted plus it wouldn't have saved Davros anyway.
They literally say what his fate is at 1:20
The one thing I found a bit odd with this scene, as well as Revelation's in general is; there is no "deep" sounding Dalek, like the ones in Resurrection and Remembrance - I understood Genesis since they were at the "beginning" but I always found it odd.
Still, worth a watch all the same - Terry does an excellent job as Davros!
'80s Doctor Whos are great just for the pyrotechnics.
Howwwww did you find meeeee!!
So how come they redubbed the Daleks in Day of the Daleks because their voices were pretty crap... Yet these stay as shit as they always were...? Lol
Rhyan Bennett they sounded like fucking retards..
I quite like RoTD's Dalek voices
@@szabm3179 You do realise there are three who Dalek stories that RotD could refer to. Remembrance, Revelation, Resurrection. Doesn't exactly narrow it down very much.
Would be even more disrespectful to do that. Roy Skelton was a bit of a legend and the main voice of the Daleks for two decades. There were modulator issues on this one.
Actually, the Necrosian Daleks (Davro’s Daleks) were supposed to sound like that. The director wanted them to sound more human because they were converts. I love how he puts in that detail then doesn’t make the grey Daleks sound normal so you can hear a difference. Smh.
Savage 2:06
what the fuck is that set
I don't like the Dalek voices in this story
They don't sound right without the ring-modulator.
They sound like they're on helium
Sean Jeffery The reason they sound this way is because the director wanted the Necrosis daleks to sound more human. It just so happened they could be bothered to do fix the voice modulation for the skate daleks
Yeah, they sound like the Daleks hit puberty like a truck..
Tom Baker could deliver "no arm in trying", without trying. Colin can't. It's all too aware.
Collin did it good.
The terrible incidental music really ruined this story.
I highly doubt that.
Everything from 1:35 in this scene is good. Before that, it's just a bit naff
You want terrible music, try the first cliffhanger from Death to the Daleks
How is this terrible? It's errie and grim, it honestly sound like a 80s version of the errie tracks from Dead Planet, Master Plan and Power of The Daleks.
One of the worst Dalek voices of all time
I recognize and I appreciate Dr. WHO fans. However, it is a Syfy series that I never could quite get into. To be fair, I never liked any Syfy series or movies. Maybe it's because my parents would take me to spooky scary outer space and alien movies in the 1950s and some of them scared the jumping bejeezus out of me and gave me nightmares. One, in particular, was Forbidden Planet with the ID monster and another was This Island Earth with the hideous mutant monsters - but there were others I didn't like too.
So, the Daleks, and Davros seemed just plain idiotic and cartoonish to me - like a puppet or marionette show. The squished fish guts, octopus-tentacled, one-eyed or two-eyed Kaled mutant inside of a Dalek and the Supreme Dalek as a giant mutated brain tumor mass, that was the central brain - made me laugh out loud. And for my lack of respect, I know I would be "EXTERMINATED" and my juicy juice siphoned by a Dalek!
Like I mentioned - I just don't get the series popularity.
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Daleks are definitely overrated imo. I like other aspects of the show esp Cybermen and weeping angels but I can't think of a single Dalek story I really love
I do find it funny how you clicked on a Doctor Who video just to post an essay about how you don't like the show.. lol.
Worst dalek voices ever!
@Em haha, I’d say so yeah. Although the TV movie voice is as bad as revelation. And at least the day of the daleks had ring mod going on, revelation had none at all.
Worse than the worst fanfic.
this is one of my favourite of colin baker era a creepy no nonsense episode