Recently got the white dial version, which is amazing. Went online to check specs on my watch and was blown away to find their testing was 1.7s per day, my personal timing is coming in more like 1.2s per day. Fantastic watch! Highly recommend it to anyone.
Picked up mine yesterday. It's the grey dial with the rubber strap. Absolutely love it. Best purchase of my life and I dont see myself wearing another watch for a long time.
Just bought the white dial today as I’m writing couldn’t be more happier I was fed up with Rolex waiting list on the Sub overall after watching many review like yours it convinced me to purchase this Sea master 300 diver white dial thanks mate
From a purely technical and engineering perspective, it shames the 3135 in the Submariner and trades blows equally with the 3235 (winning for real world accuracy/precision and 🧲 resistance, losing slightly in PR.). This movement is going to be seen as a hallmark caliber from Omega in the coming decades.
I got a 2012 Seamaster 300M black dial. I took out the bracelet and mounted the Omega James Bond Nato strap. I feel it's more comfy. Solid watch,very accurate and superb power reserve. The only thing that surprised me is that it has got slight bezel play !!! Omega dealer told me it can be fixed but for now it stays as is. I purchased the watch used and have no regrets. Thank you for this video.
Cool man, thanks for sharing that! No doubt that awesome material they use for their NATO is gonna be more comfy I reckon... presently I'm a bit off NATO straps personally as I have started not liking how they lift the watch off the wrist, and for thicker pieces that can be a killer. Cheers, Ivan.
At this stage I own both the SubC NoDate (Ref, 114060, got it for retail recently) and this watch so I can compare the two directly: As much as I like Omega and want it to win, I still find the Sub better overall in many important aspects: It feels like a higher quality piece in terms of the materials used (probably due to 904L steel). Also it wears a bit slimmer, weighs less, is dressier and is thus more versatile (advantage if you want a one watch collection only). The bezel action of the Rolex is the best of any diver, same goes for its crown action, which I would describe as smooth like butter. Despite the COSC certification of the Omega, the nice feature of being able to check on your watch measurement results online and the guarantee that it will never lose time, my Rolex keeps time better (less than +1sec a day, seldom -1 when in the watch winder) while the Omega is at +2 to 3 seconds per day. After all, this is what matters. Then the financial reasoning: Never in my life have I made profit on selling an Omega, in fact I lost money while I always made profit or got my money back in case of every single Rolex I owned. It's like you can wear the watch for free or are getting paid to do so. Rolex has better brand reputation and recognition. Advantage Omega: Much more exciting dial with waves, gorgeous blue (I simply adore the blue color of the SMP!) while the Sub might be boring, the Sub has become too popular and widespread (Omega shows more individuality), display case back and better technical movement (but not time keeping as argued above!), coaxial (is this really an advatage or just marketing?), fresher/younger/more stylish look (but might go out of style or look outdated in 10 to 20 years), anti magnetic properties (again: is this really an advantage or just marketing?), it costs half the price of the Rolex, helium escape valve (nobody needs it, might ruin the look of the watch for some people), it has by a tiny margin the more comfortable bracelet (I find the SMP bracelet to be the most comfortable of any watch). In the end, both Omega and Rolex have their place in the watch world with Omega being the geeky, stylish, wanting to do and add new things innovator and Rolex being like a conservative bank.
Thanks for taking the time to share those insightful thoughts, I really appreciate that! I find myself agreeing with almost everything you said actually. Some minor points of differences however: - Regarding higher quality feel, I have a 5-digit Sub and have come across 6-digit models also. Personally I find it quite difficult to perceive any difference in the quality of the feel & finish... just my own view of course. - Regarding accuracy, Rolex technically claims a narrower range of +/- 2spd, while Omega is +0-5spd. One could argue that both your watches are *smack bang* in the middle of the claimed accuracy range. - Re: Magnetic resistance - oh I am pretty sure this isn't just marketing... the resistance of the Omega is astounding and at 15000 gauss means it can sit in a standard MRI machine! Rolex's best performing anti-magnetic is the Milgauss of course, at 1000 gauss, 1/15th of the new Omega movements. WatchTime did an fascinating test on the PO with anti-magnetic movement using an actual MRI - it was impressive! As for the rest I actually agree, *especially* with regards to the value retention of Rolex (yep, like wearing for free, as long as you keep in it good nick), and the brand recognition, which is second to none. Ask any random non-enthusiast on the street what is the best watch, and the answer is almost inevitably Rolex! Cheers & thanks again, Ivan.
@@PerthWAtch Indeed, probably the Sub would become magnetised in a MRI despite its antimagnetic parachrom hairspring :). On the other hand, I am wondering about playing golf as Rolex is known for its high shock resistance and would survive the bangs there. After two weeks of just wearing the Sub I find the Omega refreshing and satisfying to have on my wrist again today. Both watches are awesome for different reasons and if one can own both of them, it's even better ;). Greetings, David
On Dec.1, 2022 I purchased the Seamaster Diver 300M in blue. The MSRP $5400.us I asked and was given a 10% discount since I was paying cash, so my purchase price was $4860.us plus tax. This was my second AD that I had gone to. The first shop was also Rolex AD and I had hoped to buy from then and build a relationship to eventually buy a Rolex Submariner, or GMT. Unfortunately they turned down my discount request and said Omega had stopped discounting their watches a long time ago. I thanked the salesperson and left. Unfortunately the AD who gave me the discounted price does not sell Rolex which is okay. Some people feel that the Omega is a better watch than the Submariner and I have to agree. The Seamaster is a high quality, well priced beautiful work of mechanical art and I love wearing mine. I am on the Rolex registry at a different AD, but at age 72 I will probably be taking my dirt nap when the Rolex AD gives me 'the call'.
Thanks for sharing that - well at the current tanking market conditions, Rolex may become easier to come by. Their supply chain sucks badly, and while they truly hold value like no other brand, objectively speaking no one can deny that the Seamaster here is a superior watch. I will front up with the cash if they ever offer me a Sub, but not because I think it’s even close to being the best on market.
I love my Omega. It’s the Seamaster PO Chrono in blue. I’ve never owned a watch that’s drawn so much attention and compliments. People seem to love it too. At 45.5 mm and 19.1 mm in depth it wears a lot better than the figures suggest. Well done Omega, you’ve created a beautiful watch.
Excellent review! I bought this watch when it came out last year, my Rolex AD had a black sub with date that just came in and I was going to pick it up for my birthday. My brother came with me and while I was checking out the sub, he was checking out the new blue sea master 300m. They were asking 4400 for the seamaster, 9500 for the sub. I had the two watches side by side and ultimately went with the seamaster for its features and price. No regrets whatsoever, it’s a fantastic watch!
Wow thanks for sharing that... a good testimony indeed having these side by side in your hands, and what you ended up choosing! You must have some buying relationship with that dealer? Usually you wouldn't be able to buy a sports Rolex straight up I think. Cheers!
Perth WAtch I personally didn’t, but my friend bought a yachtmaster from them, and when they called him saying they had a new submariner in, he referred me to them and said I was his cousin. That’s another thing that turns me away from the rolex brand, the song and dance they put you through is ridiculous!
I have the Blue Dial version of this watch, it's light years better than my 16610 Sub, light years, of course my Tudor Black Bay is light years better than that sub as well!
We own 5 Omegas. Never really understood the Rolex obsession, especially now that Omega has Master Chronometer & Co-Axial in the Seamaster 300M Professional. The steel Sport Rolex Submariner is 3 times the price on the Grey Market, not available at AD’s
new Seamaster comes in wrong size..42mm is not what fits most wrists well as 40mm do!! Omega is repeatedly doing wrong moves in terms of making their watches, and marketing as well...that why I guess🤷♂️ I personally love both brands tho
@@Makul-rt4sz even if they do 40mm you still have something else to complain.... Helium escape? The bezel's grip? At least is available Rolex is just available on TH-cam while their ads are empty because of the fake shortage
I bought mine in the same color in June and really love it. I have worn it almost every day since. The last time I adjusted it is 45 days ago and today it's +55sec -> 1,2sec/day. Could one wish for more accuracy in a mechanical watch? I don't think so. Greetings from Germany.
That's awesome man, thanks for sharing that, and really glad to hear you're loving! As for accuracy... well actually there are some astounding chronometric performers out there... e.g. a JLC tourbillon that runs within 1 minute per YEAR for a mechanical watch... but of course that is several multiples of price on top of this Omega :)
I got the black dial SMPmc in December and have worn it daily since. Keeps slightly better than +.4 seconds per day. PR tapped out at just past 64 hours on mine. Ultra tough watch; I beat on it like a Seiko SKX (it took the daily beater job from an SKX) and it’s just fantastic. A true luxury tool watch.
I wasn't crazy about it until I saw the black version in person and tried it on. I bought it instantly. It just fits so well and sits perfectly on the wrist.
I am fortunate to have the latest Submariner and this new SMP. Both are great, but I really like this Omega and wear almost all of the time. It is just a fantastic watch in every respect.
Perth WAtch I am blessed and don’t mention it to brag. I just can’t overstate how great the Omega SMP is. If a guy wanted one great watch for all occasions it would be a great choice.
Beautiful watch in every way, I just don’t care for the hollow hands, but not a deal breaker. Everything else is just outstanding! Every time I look at this watch it gets better and better in my mind.
My wife and I just purchased the black version from a local Jeweler. We paid about $4800 out the door. It's a fantastic watch, understated in videos and photos. You can't really appreciate it until it's on your wrist, or in your hands ;)
Amazing watch. From my point of view this could be a big player against Submariner. However, the model should last in time and avoiding special editions that makes them undesirable. Keeping the model can give Omega new iconic model. Thank you for the interesting video!!😎
Appreciate this was done a while ago, however vey informative and detailed. Did pick up the white on the bracelet because i already have a blue Pelagos and wanted something different. I must say this really does tick that box despite some minor flaws, although quality is way up there with something that’s super versatile. 👍
@@Alexd3498 despite being dive watches their very different. I feel the Omega has an element of class and actually wears extremely well on the bracelet, comfortable to. The Pelagos is more rugged an everyday watch with a better bezel in my opinion and I prefer the Matt finish but the bracelet can be a little sharp even on my 7” plus wrist. Overall they both suite different occasions perfectly. Hope that helps 👍
@@Alexd3498 no problem at all. I think their both everyday watches, just needs different straps to accommodate this. All the best in your decision making, you can’t go wrong with either 👍
Great vid. Thabks. I bought this watch in June this year. Same colour. Absolutely love it. Could you do a short vid on how to look after it, what to do about minor scratches and proper way to change straps / bracelets around?
Thanks for that. Not sure if I'll get around to doing such a video - I did one on straps/bracelets before here: th-cam.com/video/Ls_KyC1Aews/w-d-xo.html A for dealing with minor scratches, well I don't tend to... minor nicks are the reality of day to day use. Some people use Scotch Brite to even out minor scratches on brushed surfaces, especially on the clasp. However, I wouldn't try that on the case itself.
I see... this range of Seamaster 300m came out last year, and the ZrO2 was on the dial in reference to the ceramic. Previous models did not have ceramic dials - However, I am not sure if there are other Omega watches with ceramic dials but do not have this chemical symbol.
I walked into an AD here in Oslo to check out the Seamasters. My intent was to buy the Seamaster on the condition that they added me to the waitlist for a submariner. The Seamaster is just amazing in person. The feedback you get from turning the bezel is incredibly satisfying. However, I ended up walking out with a TT submariner because they just happen to have ONE that wasn't waitlisted. Everytime I look down at it I miss the Seamaster, but I keep telling myself it was a better investment. My mind keeps telling me to go back and buy the ceramic 43.5, but my wallet keeps telling me 'no'.
Thanks for sharing that Sonny... well I think you erred on the safe side, as you can likely sell the Sub anytime to recoup your cost (or even make some if it's kept in near mint shape). The Omega will very likely always be available, that is until they decide to discontinue it in several years time. I would have done the same in your situation I think.
Omega is a better unit, but don't hold the value Like Rolex, and that's the bottom line,, I have both well I did sold my rolex sub in black wish I got the Hulk, Love, my 🌊 marster
@@granto6712 hi guys i have two rolex explorer 2 and gmt,i also have the first quartz bond model seamaster,i love this watch and wear it all the time. I find that people who own rolex watches tend to see them as investments and dont wear and enjoy them which is a shame. Im looking at getting the new seamaster and wearing it.
Yes I think that is very true, some people who have Rolex pieces consider the investment value and therefore scarcely wear them. However many also do use them as daily wear. The inverse is not true of Omega, where most owners I know would happy to wear them around.
Got the blue dial on rubber strap and am totally stunned by the beauty in design and execution. This is definitely going to get lots of wrist time over my other watches, especially during COVID WFH arrangements
@@PerthWAtch True, I already put it on another blue strap from Hirsch which makes it way more dressy. I mentioned WFH because I would typically wear a less prominent watch to the office, like my Aqua Terra, or Speedmaster Pro but now it’s way more casual while sitting in Teams and Zoom calls :)
Nice review, thank you. I really like the updates on this one. Less writing on the dial, (compared to the 90s version) blue date wheel at 6 and the bracelet. Excellent all round. The only thing that is still a gimmick is the helium valve which, for me, is a useless feature. I still love this watch and of course the 2531.80 😃 Cheers! Subscribed.
Thanks for that man, glad you enjoyed the video! Yeah the helium is a bit of a gimmick but it's become part of the DNA of this watch now so I suspect Omega will never remove it...!
Your watch reviews are great particularly this most talked Omega Seamaster 300. Holding two generations you have made the expected buyers made up their mind which one they would target to purchase their grail watch. I have decided to to the earlier model because 1) The Omega logo in the early generation is applied gorgeous looks which I can't deny. 2) Earlier Omega looks more formal than the updated versions. The latest dial is more Sporty in the dial color. 3) For having the proper size and an ETA 2892-A movement which with a fine regulations can keep the same timing. By the way is the earlier model as magnet resistance as the new one?
Thanks for the positive feedback and for sharing those thoughts! The earlier model has no magnetic resistance stipulation - in fact, AFAIK there are no other watches that have been tested to the standards that these Omega Master Chronometers have.
I pointed a date to get one. Also a first Omega. I can change dial colour’s, so it would be the blue or grey. The strap, defiantly i go for the blue rubber and i want a colored nato strap. I consider also a planet ocean 600m, but the 300m is with it’s 42mm just more practical for me and more play, despite of the planet ocean’s 8900 co-axial movement with an increase of the power reserve. The previous seamaster is not my choice, because i am a guy who always want the newest watch. I like the waves on the dial, who gives the seamaster a flair of original. The hands are not so nice as i seen on the planet ocean 600m, but i see original flair. Enough for me to hop to the shop, and get that sporty diver. Not for the desk, but for knowing the time under water.
Thanks for sharing that Sven... all the best for picking up your SMP, I am sure you will enjoy it! Ooh it is tough being a guy who wants the newest watch... hopefully this model will be stable for quite a few years to come!!
@@PerthWAtch others try and punch the card and do the bare minimum or go over the top with little real substance. Your present it like a true enthusiast with knowledge. As a new luxury watch buyer I learn more and more every video and appreciate your works I have seen more and more as I contine to learn.
Although the general quality of footage is fine I think you should use a more narrow appature to get the whole watch in focus in some of the shots. Great review, thanks.
Actually I agree, however this is still very much a fun hobby for me and I am using a compact to shoot most of this (and an iPhone for some of the footage, I kid you not). Probably would be good to upgrade to a DSLR sometime... but not yet. Thanks for the feedback ;)
just picked up the blue with rubber strap .. loved your video! I was concerned with the 42mm as my wrist are small but trying it on made me change me mind. It is bigger but you can make it work. thx for all the info
I purchased the black Omega Seamaster in the UK for £4,170.00 with the braclet. The presentation box is beautiful, and the watch is just gorgeous. I own a Rolex Sub date which I purchased before everything went crazy, my honest opinion, the Sub can't touch my new Omega which in my opinion is a stunning watch, but also the build quality and movement puts the Rolex Sub in the shade. On the wrist is where you see the difference, the Sub looks small on my seven inch wrist, but the Seamaster looks and feels like a class watch and is admired more than the Sub. If you are thing of buying one don't wait, this looks like it's going to be a classic, when you see all the reviews on the internet.
You can go on Chrono24 now and buy this watch brand new ,box papers and 5 year warranty for £3163 sent to your front door in the uk . Never pay retail or close to retail for an omega , I hope you keep this watch forever and never need to sell for any reason.
One thing I didn't like in the previous non-wave seamaster is the relatively small crown. Small and hard to grip. Happy they improved it with a larger crown!!
Hello Ivan, Sweden here again. I just put that one on the list but it might take a while. I also have 17cm wrist but from the wrist shot I would say my wrist is a bit flatter but wider, you know how I mean. Not to badmouth any other but I would go for the Omega over it's closest rival anytime.
Great review and great Video too! Spot on with all your comments I couldn't agree more. I've just ordered myself the Blue resin strap from my AD it's been over 3 weeks now so hopefully not too long to wait? I'm just glad I bought my Seamaster 300m last year in November 2018 here in the UK before this year's price hike! What is the actual official reason of the price increase from Omega does anybody actually know?? Keep up the great work pal! 👍
Thanks for the positive feedback, it is most appreciated! I heard the rubber dive strap is pretty good, although I'm very much a bracelet person so I passed on it. As for the reason for the price increase, I suspect it'll be the usual spin of market factors like wages and running costs...
I bought this watch around April of this year. I got the silver dial on bracelet and it is the best watch I've owned. It runs at +.05 seconds per day. The accuracy is nuts.
@@otobotrecords he must've meant +0.5 sec... there is no way to measure +0.05 really as the frequency beat of this watch means the hand sweeps at 0.2 sec steps.
@@PerthWAtch No, it's rough calculation because I based it off the how many days since I last reset the watch and the seconds gained in the span of those days. It is on the wrist the entire time without removal, including sleeping. I also checked each day multiple times how many seconds were gained to see how much variance there was. So it's a rough calculation but probably not too far off from the actual accuracy.
Very nice video. What is the obsession with the Submariner? Some people simply want to have a Rolex. In fact, a lot of Rolex owners have Omegas in their collection as well. This is a nice watch, but doesn't do anything for me. However, I absolutely love Planet Oceans.
Thank you. In defense of the Submariner, until now the Seamaster didn't really have an in-house movement, nor does it have anywhere near the value retention (and immediately inflated aftermarket price) of the Sub... but then again that's a function of Rolex playing the game of limiting supply...
@@PerthWAtch Also, for the quartz watch like Grand Seiko SGBV221, where can I get the battery replaced when it's done here in Perth? Many thanks, again@:)
Nice one Ivan. I really like the new model. Great specs. I slightly prefer the more curvy bracelet links of previous model but thats about all everything else is a huge step up. Congrats on a great new piece 👍🎉🎊
@@PerthWAtch yeah its a great watch for sure. You've got quite the collection of Seamasters' now 👍 😜 I managed to try one on a little while ago and was impressed.
Looking at this video again in the daylight gave it another take. Mainly, my one question on the execution of the watch. Despite the tradition of the heliyum escape valve and the relocation of the date window to the six o'clock position, what woud you say, Perth to a framed window at the 4 o'clock position? Is the 6 o'clock position for interest? I find that a thin matching frame of the same width at the 4 o'clock position would balance the weight across from the helium escape valve. I wonder how many in the board room suggested this only to have the current selection chosen? AF
That's an interesting thought Alex, however I have a rather difference perspective on this. Most 3 hander watches are by default "imbalanced" thanks to a crown at 3 o'clock... so part of why I instinctively like the Helium valve is that is helps "restore balance to the Force" :) Personally I think a date at 4 o'clock would be a misstep as it would involve compromising the hour index at that point. Overall I think this would appear to be trying to rebalance a 10 o'clock crown that was rebalancing the 3 o'clock crown anyway ;)
People compare this head to head with the sub all the time. But outside of both being dive watches from prominent brands the watches are quite different in style and size. While I love what Omega is doing I'd still go Sub for an everyday watch because of the size and because it has more of an understated retro feel to it compared to the SMP.
Yeah, no question about the Sub being more understated for me also... personally I do like the SMP style just as much, it is louder but it's also doing its own thing. I also like to look at the objective aspects, and based on that one does have to conceded the SMP is superior, for half the price ;)
Hi. I bought a cheap copy of this watch in Bali one year ago. The movement keeps stopping. I would like to replace the movement with a Seiko NH35. Is the NH35 compatible with the case? If it is...do I need an internal spacer or gasket to ensure a solid fit inside the case?
I’m not sure about grey retail for something like this. There are only a couple of retailers here really: Hardy Bros in the city or Kennedy’s at Crown.
@@DBravo29er Yes, I tried one in an AD a few months ago. Not too big, considering the type of watch, but I prefer 39/40 mm on my wrist. Anyway it's a gorgeous watch!
I think I love mine, Im a rough type a fella and I break stuff. This is way too nice to wear. I roll with a Ball Hyrdrocarbon engineer DLC or my luminox 1521 they are far more indestructible.
In my opinion, the old Seamaster is such a fantastic watch... in isolation. Next to the new one though, it looks so old and dated, and not in a cool vintage kind of way. The new one is such a stunner!!
Thanks for that - I get what you mean but I don't think I'll be parting with my old one anytime soon, it's quite distinct and has its place in my lineup despite the new one looking that much more modern :)
I have the black version of this SMPmc but I still love the original Bond SMP. I have several friends who own them and they have aged VERY well next to current luxury dive watch offerings.
I purchased one of these recently and after 2 months of wear, I am very pleased with all aspects of it. There are a lot of videos of this watch and all of them seem obliged to include an iconoclastic moment or two on the Rolex Submariner. Perhaps most of the comparison advantages of the Omega over the Rolex is true. But I think this is true too: if all the new Seamaster 300M buyers had the opportunity to also purchase the Submariner at the same price, 99.999% of us would be sporting brand new Rolex Submariners. Nice video, thanks.
Thanks for those thoughts Amy - I'm curious, are you a guy who happened to be using his GF/wife's login? Reason I wonder is that this watch would be rather large for most ladies, and I certainly have never seen a lady wear a Seamaster 41mm or 42mm (not that there's anything inherently wrong with that). I can be glad then that I have created a unique video on this watch that makes no mention of the Submariner ;) Having said that however, I will weigh in to say that the hypothetical situation you propose where a Sub is obtainable at the same price, must necessarily also mean that the Sub somehow did not have all the historical reasons behind why Rolex is able to market it at $10k. In that case I'm not sure that everyone would be going for the Sub instead. If on the other you could really somehow buy a Sub in this reality, at $5k... well that would be a no brainer as it would be sorely undervalued!
@@PerthWAtch I'm a guy, "Amy" short for Amiltriptyline; my dad is a pharmacist. Sorry, I must have gotten confused with all the other videos I've watched, but you did write "Sub Killer" in your title. My days of ruminating over the purchase of a Rolex Submariner are long gone. But that is OK because I bought the Omega, which is better than the Submariner anyway, right?
Ah I see, thanks for clarifying. Yeah correct, "Sub Killer" in the title, but I believe I did not mention that at all in the video. Titles can be changed very easily, video content less so ;) Glad you settled on the Omega which kicks the stuffing out of the Submariner :D But hey, nothing wrong with getting a Sub later too!
A very nice watch. Personally, Between a Submariner and this I would definitely go with this. I’m not crazy about the hands but I really don’t like the Mercedes Hands either. This has a more modern design. The Submariner’s dial and hands are very old fashioned. Ok s the case profile on this is much nicer. Personally, My favorite Sea Master is the Plo Prof, however it’s design is a little impractical for anything other then diving. I really also like the Planet Ocean, That world of possibly be a grail for me.
Was retailing at $7600 Singapore dollars. Managed to get $400 off. I would also like to mention I purchased it after watching your video and bought it for my fathers 60th birthday this 6oct. Thanks very much for walking through.
I actually glad that I didn’t end up buying this watch and go for sub instead. Sub is just so versatile having to fit all sort of straps and occasions. It’s a better purchase for me personally. Simply classic and iconic.
As usual, well done! I'm a strange guy I reckon. I don't hate but am not drawn to textured dials. Case n bracelet are very nice. I like the clean white markings but like the clean contrast of the older model. I'm thinkinh that the, 116610 is 1k to 1.5k more. I'd have to see this side by side with the Rolex. I like 007 but not going to buy Omega because Bond did. Hell, he wore Casio too I'm not sprinting to Wallmart for one of them eirher. Cheers! Kee0 up the great reviews.
Thanks Mike - a six digit Submariner in steel is about double the MSRP of this watch. On top of that you can still get discount on Omega but you won't on a steel Sub. That's why it's a Sub killer ;)
Hello and thank you! I've considered buying the same exact watch and I went to try it on. Everything was perfect except one think. I felt like the clasp, or something around the clasp was pretty sharp and it irritated my arm. Did you notice anything of the sort?
its really nice, i had the previous version and the new one is better in every way, except, my older one i could just about live with the height of the watch, the new one is over 1mm thicker, could be a deal breaker, ill have to go try one
I would use Google to search out sources in AUD - model number in the description mate. However as for many modern divers, I'm afraid there is no such model in 36mm!
Thank you very much for this great review, I hope to get the black dial version in a few weeks, for my birthday. ,. It will be the purchase of a lifetime, for me, and an heirloom for my children /grandchildren... Thanks again,,,, ps, I've just subbed on the strength of this review, !
Just a question... I'm a graphic designer so just noticing that the red word seamaster isnt very legible against the blue. Orange or even light gray would be better.
I was thinking of getting one of these as been on Rolex list for years and being couple grand cheaper. But needed up getting submariner £500 over list most wanted £5k over list for sub. Still want omega but Ocean planet.
They are not supposed to run slow. But if one did, it wouldn’t be the first time a product failed to live up to what the manufacturer claims. And it wouldn’t be the last time either.
How is the bracelet? I've read so many comments about it not being comfortable. Deciding between this or a Speedy Moonwatch. Really tough choice for me. I really would like the Seamaster but I'm leaning to the Speedy more and more because of the bracelet comfort.
Good question... I think it’s fine but if comparing with Rolex Oyster or Aqua Terra bracelet it’s definitely not as comfortable as those. From memory I believe the Speedy is also more comfortable but that’s a marginal thing IMO. Much more important is which type of watch you like I think... Speedy is a rather different animal.
Great review. It's a great looking watch. I still maintain I would rather a new Breitling Chronomat over this. Why? B01 movement now edges both the co-axial 8800 and Rolex sub 3235. The Breitling finish is better too, new rouleaux bracelet is just brilliant. Omega needs to improve their bracelet design. Clasps are good though and TBH still a great choice, used its a bargain.
Breitling design certainly different and interesting. But perhaps you can explain why you think the B01 “edges” the Omega 8800. I haven’t seen anything to substantiate this.
@@PerthWAtch Breitling b01 is made of 346 components including 47 jewels, the b01 operates at 28,800 vph (4Hz) and has a 70 hour power reserve. Caliber 8500 movement is actually made by ETA, featuring Co-Axial designed technology, so it's not really in house, despite Omega claims! Omega has 39Jewels vs 47 in the b01. Omega has 25,200 vph vs 28,800vph in the b01, Omega 8500 only a 60 hr power reserve (55 in 8800) vs 70 hours in the b01 need I go on? No contest really! I should mention I'm.not against Omega or Rolex but credit where its due. Breitling lost their way a bit, they are back at the top of the game and it's great to see. People should be celebrating them and the choices now available to collectors!
Nah, you've got some major misconceptions there. You are assuming that more jewels and higher beat rate means a superior movement, but this is simply not true. That's like saying a higher revving engine that has more ball bearings automatically means it's a better one. Plus you're comparing a chronograph with a 3-hander date - it would a farce if the Breitling didn't manage to fit more jewels in! Why do you suppose you need a higher beat-rate? If you reckon accuracy... well you might've checked that the Omega has an accuracy window that is half that of the Breitling COSC (5 seconds/day vs 10 seconds/day). Did you actually watch the video? Did you see the part about the tests Master Chronometer movements are subjected to? Among many other things, it's a truly anti-magnetic movement that can be taken into an MRI and still beat accurately. Needless to say, not so with the Breitling. Oh and whoever told you it's made by ETA lied to you. Apart from the power reserve, the Omega beats the Breitling in all the ways where it actually matters. Need I go on? No contest really ;)
@@PerthWAtchNow Breitling were the first to offer a 5 year warranty? Omega first? Failure of the hour wheel? Underlying worries about the movements reliability with service needed before time? Heard a few stories! Noticed you ignored power reserve point too? As for the co-axial escapement, it can afford to beat at a lower frequency because of its design. But in a Swiss lever, a lower beat per hour is associated with less accuracy. It’s on a microscopic scale, obviously, but the seconds hand might be a fraction more jumpy. Take the Zenith El Primero movement that’s so popular, it beats at 36,000. Sure, it’s not guaranteed that more beats means better movements but, generally, it’s what most brands seem to be shooting for. It is technically not in house. .Swatch group owns Omega and ETA, that doesn't make the fettled 8500 in house! Just saying !
Yes indeed, heard many stories about problems with Breitling movements! Not sure what you’re going on about regarding the beat frequency... Zenith blah blah blah... the point is that Omega is more accurate, and that’s what matters. So you agree it’s better then it would seem ;) Oh, and you think I “ignored power reserve point” but referring directly to it? Interesting opinion... or maybe you just need to read my comment again more carefully! I say again - whoever told you ETA made these movements lied. You need to check your sources.
Thanks for the great video. I'm in Perth WA too. Do I hear a bit of Afrikaans in your accent? Is there a store in Perth that you would recommend for Omega SMP's or Rolex Subs? Cheers. 🙂
Haha absolutely not Afrikaans - I’m Malaysian! There are only about 3 or 4 Perth stores you could get an Omega from… I’d just go with whoever can give you a discount. There is pretty much no store you could get a Rolex you’d want from - in this or any other city! 😂
@@PerthWAtch Ah. My mother is Malaysian (Indian) 🙂. I have lot's of family in Malaysia. My ears prick up when I hear an Aussie accent on TH-cam. I think Afrikaans (and Dutch) English sounds pretty close to Australian English. I spotted one jeweller in Perth that sell Omega and one that sells both Omega and Rolex. Maybe if I went to the latter and bought an SMP, they will let me buy a Submariner from them later. Haha. Cheers dude.
I find English is the closest but I can spot the difference between that and Afrikaans and Aussie without too much difficulty. Let me know how you go with the Sub - many have tried that and failed, including myself!
This watch has to be seen in sunlight to really appreciate it. The ceramic dial, polished indices & hands look incredible. The dial has so much depth.
Yeah good point to bring up - agreed! :)
I bought the black version last week, best purchase of my life.
Haha that's an awesome comment! :)
Dude check out the links I provided ;)
Devin Brown: can you tell me accuracy of this model ?
I got my black version last year
Krunal: For accuracy details, please watch the video ;)
Recently got the white dial version, which is amazing. Went online to check specs on my watch and was blown away to find their testing was 1.7s per day, my personal timing is coming in more like 1.2s per day. Fantastic watch! Highly recommend it to anyone.
That’s incredible - glad to hear you’re getting amazing results!
Picked up mine yesterday. It's the grey dial with the rubber strap. Absolutely love it. Best purchase of my life and I dont see myself wearing another watch for a long time.
That's awesome man, thanks for sharing, glad you are really loving it :)
Just bought the white dial today as I’m writing couldn’t be more happier I was fed up with Rolex waiting list on the Sub overall after watching many review like yours it convinced me to purchase this Sea master 300 diver white dial thanks mate
That’s awesome man - I’m sure you’ll enjoy it for years to come!
In my honest opinion, the technology in this movement is a better overall watch than the Rolex Submariner, especially at this price range.
Oh yeah you're definitely not alone there... pretty much every watch enthusiast I have spoken to feels the same way!
totally agreed.....
grey market for about 4k man a phenomenal watch.
From a purely technical and engineering perspective, it shames the 3135 in the Submariner and trades blows equally with the 3235 (winning for real world accuracy/precision and 🧲 resistance, losing slightly in PR.). This movement is going to be seen as a hallmark caliber from Omega in the coming decades.
william rizzo as a Rolex submariner owner, I agree with you. No argument here.
I got the exact same model in January. Love my Seamaster
What can I say - you have good taste :)
I got a 2012 Seamaster 300M black dial. I took out the bracelet and mounted the Omega James Bond Nato strap. I feel it's more comfy. Solid watch,very accurate and superb power reserve. The only thing that surprised me is that it has got slight bezel play !!! Omega dealer told me it can be fixed but for now it stays as is. I purchased the watch used and have no regrets. Thank you for this video.
Cool man, thanks for sharing that! No doubt that awesome material they use for their NATO is gonna be more comfy I reckon... presently I'm a bit off NATO straps personally as I have started not liking how they lift the watch off the wrist, and for thicker pieces that can be a killer. Cheers, Ivan.
At this stage I own both the SubC NoDate (Ref, 114060, got it for retail recently) and this watch so I can compare the two directly: As much as I like Omega and want it to win, I still find the Sub better overall in many important aspects: It feels like a higher quality piece in terms of the materials used (probably due to 904L steel). Also it wears a bit slimmer, weighs less, is dressier and is thus more versatile (advantage if you want a one watch collection only). The bezel action of the Rolex is the best of any diver, same goes for its crown action, which I would describe as smooth like butter. Despite the COSC certification of the Omega, the nice feature of being able to check on your watch measurement results online and the guarantee that it will never lose time, my Rolex keeps time better (less than +1sec a day, seldom -1 when in the watch winder) while the Omega is at +2 to 3 seconds per day. After all, this is what matters. Then the financial reasoning: Never in my life have I made profit on selling an Omega, in fact I lost money while I always made profit or got my money back in case of every single Rolex I owned. It's like you can wear the watch for free or are getting paid to do so. Rolex has better brand reputation and recognition. Advantage Omega: Much more exciting dial with waves, gorgeous blue (I simply adore the blue color of the SMP!) while the Sub might be boring, the Sub has become too popular and widespread (Omega shows more individuality), display case back and better technical movement (but not time keeping as argued above!), coaxial (is this really an advatage or just marketing?), fresher/younger/more stylish look (but might go out of style or look outdated in 10 to 20 years), anti magnetic properties (again: is this really an advantage or just marketing?), it costs half the price of the Rolex, helium escape valve (nobody needs it, might ruin the look of the watch for some people), it has by a tiny margin the more comfortable bracelet (I find the SMP bracelet to be the most comfortable of any watch). In the end, both Omega and Rolex have their place in the watch world with Omega being the geeky, stylish, wanting to do and add new things innovator and Rolex being like a conservative bank.
Thanks for taking the time to share those insightful thoughts, I really appreciate that!
I find myself agreeing with almost everything you said actually. Some minor points of differences however:
- Regarding higher quality feel, I have a 5-digit Sub and have come across 6-digit models also. Personally I find it quite difficult to perceive any difference in the quality of the feel & finish... just my own view of course.
- Regarding accuracy, Rolex technically claims a narrower range of +/- 2spd, while Omega is +0-5spd. One could argue that both your watches are *smack bang* in the middle of the claimed accuracy range.
- Re: Magnetic resistance - oh I am pretty sure this isn't just marketing... the resistance of the Omega is astounding and at 15000 gauss means it can sit in a standard MRI machine! Rolex's best performing anti-magnetic is the Milgauss of course, at 1000 gauss, 1/15th of the new Omega movements. WatchTime did an fascinating test on the PO with anti-magnetic movement using an actual MRI - it was impressive!
As for the rest I actually agree, *especially* with regards to the value retention of Rolex (yep, like wearing for free, as long as you keep in it good nick), and the brand recognition, which is second to none. Ask any random non-enthusiast on the street what is the best watch, and the answer is almost inevitably Rolex!
Cheers & thanks again, Ivan.
@@PerthWAtch Indeed, probably the Sub would become magnetised in a MRI despite its antimagnetic parachrom hairspring :). On the other hand, I am wondering about playing golf as Rolex is known for its high shock resistance and would survive the bangs there. After two weeks of just wearing the Sub I find the Omega refreshing and satisfying to have on my wrist again today. Both watches are awesome for different reasons and if one can own both of them, it's even better ;). Greetings, David
On Dec.1, 2022 I purchased the Seamaster Diver 300M in blue. The MSRP $5400.us I asked and was given a 10% discount since I was paying cash, so my purchase price was $4860.us plus tax. This was my second AD that I had gone to. The first shop was also Rolex AD and I had hoped to buy from then and build a relationship to eventually buy a Rolex Submariner, or GMT. Unfortunately they turned down my discount request and said Omega had stopped discounting their watches a long time ago. I thanked the salesperson and left. Unfortunately the AD who gave me the discounted price does not sell Rolex which is okay. Some people feel that the Omega is a better watch than the Submariner and I have to agree. The Seamaster is a high quality, well priced beautiful work of mechanical art and I love wearing mine. I am on the Rolex registry at a different AD, but at age 72 I will probably be taking my dirt nap when the Rolex AD gives me 'the call'.
Thanks for sharing that - well at the current tanking market conditions, Rolex may become easier to come by. Their supply chain sucks badly, and while they truly hold value like no other brand, objectively speaking no one can deny that the Seamaster here is a superior watch.
I will front up with the cash if they ever offer me a Sub, but not because I think it’s even close to being the best on market.
I love my Omega. It’s the Seamaster PO Chrono in blue. I’ve never owned a watch that’s drawn so much attention and compliments. People seem to love it too. At 45.5 mm and 19.1 mm in depth it wears a lot better than the figures suggest. Well done Omega, you’ve created a beautiful watch.
Thanks for sharing - wow that's a big watch, and no doubt has some fantastic wrist presence! :)
Excellent review! I bought this watch when it came out last year, my Rolex AD had a black sub with date that just came in and I was going to pick it up for my birthday. My brother came with me and while I was checking out the sub, he was checking out the new blue sea master 300m. They were asking 4400 for the seamaster, 9500 for the sub. I had the two watches side by side and ultimately went with the seamaster for its features and price. No regrets whatsoever, it’s a fantastic watch!
Wow thanks for sharing that... a good testimony indeed having these side by side in your hands, and what you ended up choosing! You must have some buying relationship with that dealer? Usually you wouldn't be able to buy a sports Rolex straight up I think. Cheers!
Perth WAtch I personally didn’t, but my friend bought a yachtmaster from them, and when they called him saying they had a new submariner in, he referred me to them and said I was his cousin. That’s another thing that turns me away from the rolex brand, the song and dance they put you through is ridiculous!
Yeah I agree... they play the game of limiting supply and giving models to existing buyers only, which really sucks!
hobear637 how long ago was this bro and which state do u live?
I have the Blue Dial version of this watch, it's light years better than my 16610 Sub, light years, of course my Tudor Black Bay is light years better than that sub as well!
Omega in my opinion will always challenge brands at the top due to how dame good they are!!
Thanks for that - damn good indeed!
@@PerthWAtch I see what you did there- correcting his spelling without being rude. Respect.
We own 5 Omegas. Never really understood the Rolex obsession, especially now that Omega has Master Chronometer & Co-Axial in the Seamaster 300M Professional. The steel Sport Rolex Submariner is 3 times the price on the Grey Market, not available at AD’s
Thanks for that - indeed Rolex play the annoying game of limiting supply of their sports models, a very frustrating thing for many of us!
COS IT'S A ROWLECKS
It all comes down to who's best at marketing.
new Seamaster comes in wrong size..42mm is not what fits most wrists well as 40mm do!! Omega is repeatedly doing wrong moves in terms of making their watches, and marketing as well...that why I guess🤷♂️ I personally love both brands tho
@@Makul-rt4sz even if they do 40mm you still have something else to complain.... Helium escape? The bezel's grip? At least is available Rolex is just available on TH-cam while their ads are empty because of the fake shortage
Omega has been kicking ass with their releases!!
Haha that's one way to put it :)
I bought mine in the same color in June and really love it. I have worn it almost every day since. The last time I adjusted it is 45 days ago and today it's +55sec -> 1,2sec/day. Could one wish for more accuracy in a mechanical watch? I don't think so. Greetings from Germany.
That's awesome man, thanks for sharing that, and really glad to hear you're loving!
As for accuracy... well actually there are some astounding chronometric performers out there... e.g. a JLC tourbillon that runs within 1 minute per YEAR for a mechanical watch... but of course that is several multiples of price on top of this Omega :)
@@PerthWAtch That was a rhetorical question 😆
Well, either it wasn’t, or it was applied wrongly 😆
I got the black dial SMPmc in December and have worn it daily since. Keeps slightly better than +.4 seconds per day. PR tapped out at just past 64 hours on mine. Ultra tough watch; I beat on it like a Seiko SKX (it took the daily beater job from an SKX) and it’s just fantastic. A true luxury tool watch.
Thanks for sharing that... indeed, a great luxury piece but with the credentials to fulfill a tool watch role if it's called upon to do so! :)
I wasn't crazy about it until I saw the black version in person and tried it on. I bought it instantly. It just fits so well and sits perfectly on the wrist.
That’s amazing mate - did they give you a discount?
I am fortunate to have the latest Submariner and this new SMP. Both are great, but I really like this Omega and wear almost all of the time. It is just a fantastic watch in every respect.
Thanks for that, glad you are able to enjoy both, you're a lucky guy ;)
Perth WAtch I am blessed and don’t mention it to brag. I just can’t overstate how great the Omega SMP is. If a guy wanted one great watch for all occasions it would be a great choice.
Me too i have both but i like more the Seamaster 300. I can say i like also the Planet Ocean 600m 39.5m. From Rolex i like the GMT Master II
Great video with many stats awesome. I bought the white dial last week and love it! thank you
Thanks for that - glad to hear that you’re loving it too! :)
Beautiful watch in every way, I just don’t care for the hollow hands, but not a deal breaker. Everything else is just outstanding! Every time I look at this watch it gets better and better in my mind.
Thanks Ray - yours is the second vote against those skeleton swords... probably the most common gripe I hear!
@@PerthWAtch I would have thought the most common gripe would have been the helium escape valve.
Valve, hands, and bezel grip give a pretty close race I think...
My wife and I just purchased the black version from a local Jeweler. We paid about $4800 out the door. It's a fantastic watch, understated in videos and photos. You can't really appreciate it until it's on your wrist, or in your hands ;)
Awesome... do you mean it’s shared between the two of you? :)
Perth WAtch haha, no. It was her V-Day gift to me, but wanted me to pick it out 😉
That is an awesome V-day gift!
@@PerthWAtch Yeah, not the worst ;)
Just got one from the military exchange for 3700
Amazing watch. From my point of view this could be a big player against Submariner. However, the model should last in time and avoiding special editions that makes them undesirable. Keeping the model can give Omega new iconic model. Thank you for the interesting video!!😎
Thanks for that - IMO the SMP 300m is already an icon ;)
@@PerthWAtch Ironically given pedro's comment that's largely because of the Bond link & limited editions! 😁
I just bought the white version today and I'm so happy to own one.
Nice one :)
Agree with SkilfulLeader1, this video is a year old and still has excellent content. Informative, but not boring. Enjoyed very much, thank you.
Thanks man - glad you enjoyed it :)
Appreciate this was done a while ago, however vey informative and detailed. Did pick up the white on the bracelet because i already have a blue Pelagos and wanted something different. I must say this really does tick that box despite some minor flaws, although quality is way up there with something that’s super versatile. 👍
Thanks for sharing the thoughts :)
How do you like it compared to the pelagos? I'm debating between the two
@@Alexd3498 despite being dive watches their very different. I feel the Omega has an element of class and actually wears extremely well on the bracelet, comfortable to. The Pelagos is more rugged an everyday watch with a better bezel in my opinion and I prefer the Matt finish but the bracelet can be a little sharp even on my 7” plus wrist. Overall they both suite different occasions perfectly. Hope that helps 👍
@@SkilfulLeader1 indeed it does, I'm looking to wear it every single day so this description was very helpful thank you!
@@Alexd3498 no problem at all. I think their both everyday watches, just needs different straps to accommodate this. All the best in your decision making, you can’t go wrong with either 👍
Great vid. Thabks. I bought this watch in June this year. Same colour. Absolutely love it. Could you do a short vid on how to look after it, what to do about minor scratches and proper way to change straps / bracelets around?
Thanks for that. Not sure if I'll get around to doing such a video - I did one on straps/bracelets before here: th-cam.com/video/Ls_KyC1Aews/w-d-xo.html
A for dealing with minor scratches, well I don't tend to... minor nicks are the reality of day to day use. Some people use Scotch Brite to even out minor scratches on brushed surfaces, especially on the clasp. However, I wouldn't try that on the case itself.
And I noticed they've added the ZrO2 logo... nice, very subtle.
Thanks! Added it in comparison with which watch? That's in reference to the new ceramic dial which the Seamaster never had before...
@@PerthWAtch Your watch is the first one I've seen the "ZrO2" logo.
I see... this range of Seamaster 300m came out last year, and the ZrO2 was on the dial in reference to the ceramic. Previous models did not have ceramic dials - However, I am not sure if there are other Omega watches with ceramic dials but do not have this chemical symbol.
@@PerthWAtch Cool, and thanks for the info... It would definitely look nice alongside my 2551, from 1998.
I walked into an AD here in Oslo to check out the Seamasters. My intent was to buy the Seamaster on the condition that they added me to the waitlist for a submariner. The Seamaster is just amazing in person. The feedback you get from turning the bezel is incredibly satisfying. However, I ended up walking out with a TT submariner because they just happen to have ONE that wasn't waitlisted. Everytime I look down at it I miss the Seamaster, but I keep telling myself it was a better investment. My mind keeps telling me to go back and buy the ceramic 43.5, but my wallet keeps telling me 'no'.
Thanks for sharing that Sonny... well I think you erred on the safe side, as you can likely sell the Sub anytime to recoup your cost (or even make some if it's kept in near mint shape). The Omega will very likely always be available, that is until they decide to discontinue it in several years time. I would have done the same in your situation I think.
Omega is a better unit, but don't hold the value Like Rolex, and that's the bottom line,, I have both well I did sold my rolex sub in black wish I got the Hulk, Love, my 🌊 marster
@@granto6712 hi guys i have two rolex explorer 2 and gmt,i also have the first quartz bond model seamaster,i love this watch and wear it all the time.
I find that people who own rolex watches tend to see them as investments and dont wear and enjoy them which is a shame.
Im looking at getting the new seamaster and wearing it.
Yes I think that is very true, some people who have Rolex pieces consider the investment value and therefore scarcely wear them. However many also do use them as daily wear. The inverse is not true of Omega, where most owners I know would happy to wear them around.
Got one today - love it. Thanks for your video.
Congratulations :)
Bought one last week! Worth it!
Amazing!!
Got the blue dial on rubber strap and am totally stunned by the beauty in design and execution. This is definitely going to get lots of wrist time over my other watches, especially during COVID WFH arrangements
Hahaha nice one! Why particularly when WFH? It goes well outside too! :)
@@PerthWAtch True, I already put it on another blue strap from Hirsch which makes it way more dressy. I mentioned WFH because I would typically wear a less prominent watch to the office, like my Aqua Terra, or Speedmaster Pro but now it’s way more casual while sitting in Teams and Zoom calls :)
Nice review, thank you.
I really like the updates on this one. Less writing on the dial, (compared to the 90s version) blue date wheel at 6 and the bracelet. Excellent all round. The only thing that is still a gimmick is the helium valve which, for me, is a useless feature. I still love this watch and of course the 2531.80 😃
Cheers!
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Thanks for that man, glad you enjoyed the video! Yeah the helium is a bit of a gimmick but it's become part of the DNA of this watch now so I suspect Omega will never remove it...!
Your watch reviews are great particularly this most talked Omega Seamaster 300. Holding two generations you have made the expected buyers made up their mind which one they would target to purchase their grail watch. I have decided to to the earlier model because 1) The Omega logo in the early generation is applied gorgeous looks which I can't deny. 2) Earlier Omega looks more formal than the updated versions. The latest dial is more Sporty in the dial color. 3) For having the proper size and an ETA 2892-A movement which with a fine regulations can keep the same timing.
By the way is the earlier model as magnet resistance as the new one?
Thanks for the positive feedback and for sharing those thoughts! The earlier model has no magnetic resistance stipulation - in fact, AFAIK there are no other watches that have been tested to the standards that these Omega Master Chronometers have.
I pointed a date to get one. Also a first Omega.
I can change dial colour’s, so it would be the blue or grey. The strap, defiantly i go for the blue rubber and i want a colored nato strap. I consider also a planet ocean 600m, but the 300m is with it’s 42mm just more practical for me and more play, despite of the planet ocean’s 8900 co-axial movement with an increase of the power reserve.
The previous seamaster is not my choice, because i am a guy who always want the newest watch. I like the waves on the dial, who gives the seamaster a flair of original. The hands are not so nice as i seen on the planet ocean 600m, but i see original flair. Enough for me to hop to the shop, and get that sporty diver. Not for the desk, but for knowing the time under water.
Thanks for sharing that Sven... all the best for picking up your SMP, I am sure you will enjoy it! Ooh it is tough being a guy who wants the newest watch... hopefully this model will be stable for quite a few years to come!!
Perth WAtch no problem. i am not a swapper.
Haha yeah, I meant I hope Omega does't come up with another "update" to this watch soon! :)
Legit your the best watch guy out their. Glad I found your channel.
Wow, thanks - high praise indeed! :)
@@PerthWAtch others try and punch the card and do the bare minimum or go over the top with little real substance. Your present it like a true enthusiast with knowledge. As a new luxury watch buyer I learn more and more every video and appreciate your works I have seen more and more as I contine to learn.
Sword hands and dial are great!
Yes!
Although the general quality of footage is fine I think you should use a more narrow appature to get the whole watch in focus in some of the shots. Great review, thanks.
Actually I agree, however this is still very much a fun hobby for me and I am using a compact to shoot most of this (and an iPhone for some of the footage, I kid you not). Probably would be good to upgrade to a DSLR sometime... but not yet. Thanks for the feedback ;)
I just really hope you have the white dial one too ;) Another great video mate, once again if in Switzerland let me know ;)
Haha well if I did I would certainly have featured it on the channel!
just picked up the blue with rubber strap .. loved your video! I was concerned with the 42mm as my wrist are small but trying it on made me change me mind. It is bigger but you can make it work. thx for all the info
Most welcome man - glad to hear that you’re loving it! :)
I purchased the black Omega Seamaster in the UK for £4,170.00 with the braclet. The presentation box is beautiful, and the watch is just gorgeous. I own a Rolex Sub date which I purchased before everything went crazy, my honest opinion, the Sub can't touch my new Omega which in my opinion is a stunning watch, but also the build quality and movement puts the Rolex Sub in the shade. On the wrist is where you see the difference, the Sub looks small on my seven inch wrist, but the Seamaster looks and feels like a class watch and is admired more than the Sub. If you are thing of buying one don't wait, this looks like it's going to be a classic, when you see all the reviews on the internet.
Thanks for sharing that from your experience, I really appreciate hearing about user thoughts like that. Is that a 5 or 6 digit Sub model you have?
You can go on Chrono24 now and buy this watch brand new ,box papers and 5 year warranty for £3163 sent to your front door in the uk . Never pay retail or close to retail for an omega , I hope you keep this watch forever and never need to sell for any reason.
i got the seamaster 300m black dial black rubberstrap sedna gold man i love it. rolex is just a status symbol.
Nice one - beautiful watch and great colour combo!
One thing I didn't like in the previous non-wave seamaster is the relatively small crown. Small and hard to grip.
Happy they improved it with a larger crown!!
Yeah fair point there!
Hello Ivan, Sweden here again.
I just put that one on the list but it might take a while.
I also have 17cm wrist but from the wrist shot I would say my wrist is a bit flatter but wider, you know how I mean.
Not to badmouth any other but I would go for the Omega over it's closest rival anytime.
Yeah I get what you mean... good to sport larger watches that way! And yeah, I would go this Omega myself :)
I own a Seamaster 2254.50 and 2531.80, but this one with the white dial would make a perfect and a beautiful trio.
Cool! Do you find those different enough to own both? I understand they have effective the same case and movement?
Great review and great Video too! Spot on with all your comments I couldn't agree more. I've just ordered myself the Blue resin strap from my AD it's been over 3 weeks now so hopefully not too long to wait? I'm just glad I bought my Seamaster 300m last year in November 2018 here in the UK before this year's price hike! What is the actual official reason of the price increase from Omega does anybody actually know?? Keep up the great work pal! 👍
Thanks for the positive feedback, it is most appreciated! I heard the rubber dive strap is pretty good, although I'm very much a bracelet person so I passed on it. As for the reason for the price increase, I suspect it'll be the usual spin of market factors like wages and running costs...
I recieved the black version today and I wore it all day lol. The finish on the dial is stunning to look at.
Not surprising - it’s quite normal to do that, some call it the honeymoon period :)
@@PerthWAtch lol your absolutely right 👍
Awesome acquisition on this beautiful Seamaster Ivan and congratulations 😀👍🏻
Haha thanks - TBH I find it odd when being congratulated for spending money... not really an accomplishment IMO ;)
Perth WAtch lol 😂 just giving you kudos on your awesome new Seamaster 👍🏻
Excellent review.
I agree!
I bought this watch around April of this year. I got the silver dial on bracelet and it is the best watch I've owned. It runs at +.05 seconds per day. The accuracy is nuts.
Thanks for sharing that. Well what can I say, you have good taste ;)
Wow. Is it really +0.05 or +0.5s per day? The former would essentially mean it's in high accuracy quartz territory with +1.5s per month.
@@otobotrecords he must've meant +0.5 sec... there is no way to measure +0.05 really as the frequency beat of this watch means the hand sweeps at 0.2 sec steps.
@@otobotrecords It's really +. 05, bud.
@@PerthWAtch No, it's rough calculation because I based it off the how many days since I last reset the watch and the seconds gained in the span of those days. It is on the wrist the entire time without removal, including sleeping. I also checked each day multiple times how many seconds were gained to see how much variance there was. So it's a rough calculation but probably not too far off from the actual accuracy.
Got mine, love it! 😁
Me too! :)
Does anyone know the piano piece at the start of the video? Also torn between the white vs black version of this watch!!
Yes, I know what it is!!
A sub killer indeed. I love the overall look.
Great review.
Thanks Ed - I love it too :)
Very nice video. What is the obsession with the Submariner? Some people simply want to have a Rolex. In fact, a lot of Rolex owners have Omegas in their collection as well. This is a nice watch, but doesn't do anything for me. However, I absolutely love Planet Oceans.
Thank you. In defense of the Submariner, until now the Seamaster didn't really have an in-house movement, nor does it have anywhere near the value retention (and immediately inflated aftermarket price) of the Sub... but then again that's a function of Rolex playing the game of limiting supply...
Which one is better? This one or the chronograph version? I have a normal wrist size.
I don’t know what “normal” means… overall it’s predominantly a subjective matter.
Where would I be able to buy this master chronometer in Perth? I have so far found the watch shop called hardy brothers? Thanks in advance!
Hardy Bro’s in the city and Kennedy’s at Burswood.
Perfect, thanks!! Any tips? I am very interested in both submaster and grand seiko !:)SBGX in dark blue!!
Tips for? What’s a Submaster?
@@PerthWAtch Any tips or things that I must be aware of before purchasing those expensive watches? Especially, seamaster,plz :)
@@PerthWAtch Also, for the quartz watch like Grand Seiko SGBV221, where can I get the battery replaced when it's done here in Perth? Many thanks, again@:)
Nice one Ivan. I really like the new model. Great specs. I slightly prefer the more curvy bracelet links of previous model but thats about all everything else is a huge step up. Congrats on a great new piece 👍🎉🎊
Thanks Sam... this is such a winner, especially at the original retail which was only a 10% increase on the previous model for a whole lot more tech!
@@PerthWAtch yeah its a great watch for sure. You've got quite the collection of Seamasters' now 👍 😜 I managed to try one on a little while ago and was impressed.
Well, Christmas is just a couple of months away... :)
@@PerthWAtch 😄🤞 haha
legendary watch....🙏🏻🤘🏻👍🏻
Thanks man! :)
Looking at this video again in the daylight gave it another take. Mainly, my one question on the execution of the watch. Despite the tradition of the heliyum escape valve and the relocation of the date window to the six o'clock position, what woud you say, Perth to a framed window at the 4 o'clock position? Is the 6 o'clock position for interest? I find that a thin matching frame of the same width at the 4 o'clock position would balance the weight across from the helium escape valve. I wonder how many in the board room suggested this only to have the current selection chosen? AF
That's an interesting thought Alex, however I have a rather difference perspective on this. Most 3 hander watches are by default "imbalanced" thanks to a crown at 3 o'clock... so part of why I instinctively like the Helium valve is that is helps "restore balance to the Force" :)
Personally I think a date at 4 o'clock would be a misstep as it would involve compromising the hour index at that point. Overall I think this would appear to be trying to rebalance a 10 o'clock crown that was rebalancing the 3 o'clock crown anyway ;)
People compare this head to head with the sub all the time. But outside of both being dive watches from prominent brands the watches are quite different in style and size. While I love what Omega is doing I'd still go Sub for an everyday watch because of the size and because it has more of an understated retro feel to it compared to the SMP.
Yeah, no question about the Sub being more understated for me also... personally I do like the SMP style just as much, it is louder but it's also doing its own thing. I also like to look at the objective aspects, and based on that one does have to conceded the SMP is superior, for half the price ;)
Hi.
I bought a cheap copy of this watch in Bali one year ago. The movement keeps stopping. I would like to replace the movement with a Seiko NH35. Is the NH35 compatible with the case? If it is...do I need an internal spacer or gasket to ensure a solid fit inside the case?
Most likely yes but impossible to know for sure without seeing the inside dimensions.
Ok, I'll get the vernier out and see what's what...
Thank you.
Where would you recommend purchasing this here in Perth?? Or is Jomashop or online the way to go??
I’m not sure about grey retail for something like this.
There are only a couple of retailers here really: Hardy Bros in the city or Kennedy’s at Crown.
jus bought oder one for 2K(new) fully black, LoveIt a lot. dont love waves and date on "6" in curent one ...
Sounds like a good deal - congratulations!
Andrew Balahura each to their own :)
A great review for a great watch. A little bit too big for my 7 inches wrist, but very very nice.
Thanks Andrea, glad you enjoyed this :)
You might be surprised. It wears smaller than the number would indicate. Have you been able to try one on?
@@DBravo29er Yes, I tried one in an AD a few months ago. Not too big, considering the type of watch, but I prefer 39/40 mm on my wrist. Anyway it's a gorgeous watch!
Agree. Fantastic piece.
Oh you betcha! :)
I think I love mine, Im a rough type a fella and I break stuff. This is way too nice to wear. I roll with a Ball Hyrdrocarbon engineer DLC or my luminox 1521 they are far more indestructible.
I use a G-shock when I’m knocking stuff around...
Excellent video as usual would love to see a state of the collection
Thanks for that - I think trying to do a state of the collection will do my head in, I shudder just thinking of getting all of the pieces together! ;)
In my opinion, the old Seamaster is such a fantastic watch... in isolation. Next to the new one though, it looks so old and dated, and not in a cool vintage kind of way. The new one is such a stunner!!
Thanks for that - I get what you mean but I don't think I'll be parting with my old one anytime soon, it's quite distinct and has its place in my lineup despite the new one looking that much more modern :)
Some don't like 3 o'clock date windows because it impairs the symmetry of the dial.
I have the black version of this SMPmc but I still love the original Bond SMP. I have several friends who own them and they have aged VERY well next to current luxury dive watch offerings.
Who Flung Shite its a matter of preference. For you its not better but for others it is. Others love symmetry and others dont mind.
@Who Flung Shite we're talking about the current and previous SMP, not rolex.
That's just perfection in a box 👍👍
That's a nice way to put it - good one! :)
@@PerthWAtch thanks ivan 👍
Nice watch, Omega really show Rolex the way ahead with packaging.
Thanks for that! I thought Rolex packaging is similar?
Have you taken it near the MRI at work yet??
Nah I don’t go near that area routinely.
How comfy is that bracelet to wear?
It’s perfectly good for me :)
Is it ok for small wrists?
That’s very subjective… as someone’s ok is another’s not ok. Someone’s small is another ones big.
I purchased one of these recently and after 2 months of wear, I am very pleased with all aspects of it. There are a lot of videos of this watch and all of them seem obliged to include an iconoclastic moment or two on the Rolex Submariner. Perhaps most of the comparison advantages of the Omega over the Rolex is true. But I think this is true too: if all the new Seamaster 300M buyers had the opportunity to also purchase the Submariner at the same price, 99.999% of us would be sporting brand new Rolex Submariners. Nice video, thanks.
Thanks for those thoughts Amy - I'm curious, are you a guy who happened to be using his GF/wife's login? Reason I wonder is that this watch would be rather large for most ladies, and I certainly have never seen a lady wear a Seamaster 41mm or 42mm (not that there's anything inherently wrong with that).
I can be glad then that I have created a unique video on this watch that makes no mention of the Submariner ;)
Having said that however, I will weigh in to say that the hypothetical situation you propose where a Sub is obtainable at the same price, must necessarily also mean that the Sub somehow did not have all the historical reasons behind why Rolex is able to market it at $10k. In that case I'm not sure that everyone would be going for the Sub instead. If on the other you could really somehow buy a Sub in this reality, at $5k... well that would be a no brainer as it would be sorely undervalued!
@@PerthWAtch I'm a guy, "Amy" short for Amiltriptyline; my dad is a pharmacist. Sorry, I must have gotten confused with all the other videos I've watched, but you did write "Sub Killer" in your title. My days of ruminating over the purchase of a Rolex Submariner are long gone. But that is OK because I bought the Omega, which is better than the Submariner anyway, right?
Ah I see, thanks for clarifying. Yeah correct, "Sub Killer" in the title, but I believe I did not mention that at all in the video. Titles can be changed very easily, video content less so ;)
Glad you settled on the Omega which kicks the stuffing out of the Submariner :D
But hey, nothing wrong with getting a Sub later too!
A very nice watch. Personally, Between a Submariner and this I would definitely go with this. I’m not crazy about the hands but I really don’t like the Mercedes Hands either. This has a more modern design. The Submariner’s dial and hands are very old fashioned. Ok s the case profile on this is much nicer.
Personally, My favorite Sea Master is the Plo Prof, however it’s design is a little impractical for anything other then diving. I really also like the Planet Ocean, That world of possibly be a grail for me.
Thanks for sharing those thoughts, all good designs you've brought up there :)
Could you lemme know why a lot of people say it's adjusted in 6 positions yet it's 5 positions written on the movement itself?
Omega official site says 6 positions. I can't see where it says 5 positions on the movement - where did you see this?
@@PerthWAtch my bad must've seen something else.
I bought this yesterday. So happy with it
Cool - from a dealer or second hand?
@@PerthWAtch dealer
How much discount did you manage? Curious to know
Was retailing at $7600 Singapore dollars. Managed to get $400 off. I would also like to mention I purchased it after watching your video and bought it for my fathers 60th birthday this 6oct. Thanks very much for walking through.
Oh very nice gift!!
I actually glad that I didn’t end up buying this watch and go for sub instead. Sub is just so versatile having to fit all sort of straps and occasions. It’s a better purchase for me personally. Simply classic and iconic.
Sub is definitely more versatile being thinner and smaller, no question about that.
Great Watch, Great Review ❤️
Thanks :)
The best version of any seamaster to date imo. Just wish they would offer it in 40x12.5x47x20 dimensions.
I wish they kept it at 41mm
As usual, well done! I'm a strange guy I reckon. I don't hate but am not drawn to textured dials. Case n bracelet are very nice. I like the clean white markings but like the clean contrast of the older model. I'm thinkinh that the, 116610 is 1k to 1.5k more. I'd have to see this side by side with the Rolex. I like 007 but not going to buy Omega because Bond did. Hell, he wore Casio too I'm not sprinting to Wallmart for one of them eirher. Cheers! Kee0 up the great reviews.
Thanks Mike - a six digit Submariner in steel is about double the MSRP of this watch. On top of that you can still get discount on Omega but you won't on a steel Sub. That's why it's a Sub killer ;)
Hello and thank you! I've considered buying the same exact watch and I went to try it on. Everything was perfect except one think. I felt like the clasp, or something around the clasp was pretty sharp and it irritated my arm. Did you notice anything of the sort?
No, can’t say I noticed any problem like that at all.
@@PerthWAtch thank you!!
its really nice, i had the previous version and the new one is better in every way, except, my older one i could just about live with the height of the watch, the new one is over 1mm thicker, could be a deal breaker, ill have to go try one
Thanks for sharing that - yeah I agree, it's bigger in all dimensions really, that's something that buyers will definitely have to take note of.
I'm about to buy tthis watch for $4500 aud, worn 2x. Everything qith it and I got it authenticated
Sounds like a good price provided the condition is good.
@@PerthWAtch yea it is mint ,worn twice
What year was this model released?
As mentioned in the video, 2018 ;)
Are you based in Perth WA ? Are the prices mentioned in AUD ?
Yep based in Perth - but prices are in USD.
Perth WAtch hey mate how much would a similar watch be in AUD ? Maybe a use one 36 mm ?
I would use Google to search out sources in AUD - model number in the description mate.
However as for many modern divers, I'm afraid there is no such model in 36mm!
Perth WAtch thanks mate ! One of the mates have a 36mm seamaster just wondering how to check the authenticity
Best just to take it to an authorized dealer or repairer if you're not sure.
A superb combo would be the White 300 and a black Submariner no date.
I haven’t found myself gravitating toward the white SMP, although I hear it’s quite popular.
bb58 vs omega seamaster 300 m. What are the opinions.....
All depends on what you're looking for. In terms of movement & materials technology, I think the Omega takes the win.
While I like the styling of the bb58 better, if you're into specs and want more watch for the money get a preowned planet ocean.
Depending on which Planet Ocean you could also make it less watch for the money ;)
Thank you very much for this great review, I hope to get the black dial version in a few weeks, for my birthday. ,. It will be the purchase of a lifetime, for me, and an heirloom for my children /grandchildren... Thanks again,,,,
ps, I've just subbed on the strength of this review, !
Thanks for the comment and the sub John - all the best for that and welcome aboard :)
Watch is fantastic. Wish the bracelet tapered
Yeah would be interesting to see a tapering design although if so the width at the case needs to be 22mm.
Just a question... I'm a graphic designer so just noticing that the red word seamaster isnt very legible against the blue. Orange or even light gray would be better.
Hi there, thanks for the comment. What's your question??
I have this watch in the blue aswell it is awesome and would have it over a submariner any day
Thanks for that Peter! It is indeed a rather awesome watch :)
I was thinking of getting one of these as been on Rolex list for years and being couple grand cheaper. But needed up getting submariner £500 over list most wanted £5k over list for sub. Still want omega but Ocean planet.
Thanks for sharing that Kevin - sounds like a fair deal if you only had to go £500 over for a Sub. I'm sure you will enjoy it! :)
Best of the Best by far.
Haha very definitive!
Is it true that these new Omega movements never go minus? So it can only gain seconds but never loose?
They are not supposed to run slow. But if one did, it wouldn’t be the first time a product failed to live up to what the manufacturer claims. And it wouldn’t be the last time either.
How is the bracelet? I've read so many comments about it not being comfortable. Deciding between this or a Speedy Moonwatch. Really tough choice for me. I really would like the Seamaster but I'm leaning to the Speedy more and more because of the bracelet comfort.
Good question... I think it’s fine but if comparing with Rolex Oyster or Aqua Terra bracelet it’s definitely not as comfortable as those. From memory I believe the Speedy is also more comfortable but that’s a marginal thing IMO. Much more important is which type of watch you like I think... Speedy is a rather different animal.
Well, I ended up with both watches now. Lol! Love them both.
Awesome!
Surely a GMT model is on the way. Awaiting its arrival. It would make it to be "land, sea and air" capabilities.
Not sure if there had been a recent 4 hand GMT type model in this range… they have a chronograph GMT though
Great review. It's a great looking watch. I still maintain I would rather a new Breitling Chronomat over this. Why? B01 movement now edges both the co-axial 8800 and Rolex sub 3235. The Breitling finish is better too, new rouleaux bracelet is just brilliant. Omega needs to improve their bracelet design. Clasps are good though and TBH still a great choice, used its a bargain.
Breitling design certainly different and interesting. But perhaps you can explain why you think the B01 “edges” the Omega 8800. I haven’t seen anything to substantiate this.
@@PerthWAtch Breitling b01 is made of 346 components including 47 jewels, the b01 operates at 28,800 vph (4Hz) and has a 70 hour power reserve. Caliber 8500 movement is actually made by ETA, featuring Co-Axial designed technology, so it's not really in house, despite Omega claims! Omega has 39Jewels vs 47 in the b01. Omega has 25,200 vph vs 28,800vph in the b01, Omega 8500 only a 60 hr power reserve (55 in 8800) vs 70 hours in the b01 need I go on? No contest really! I should mention I'm.not against Omega or Rolex but credit where its due. Breitling lost their way a bit, they are back at the top of the game and it's great to see. People should be celebrating them and the choices now available to collectors!
Nah, you've got some major misconceptions there. You are assuming that more jewels and higher beat rate means a superior movement, but this is simply not true. That's like saying a higher revving engine that has more ball bearings automatically means it's a better one. Plus you're comparing a chronograph with a 3-hander date - it would a farce if the Breitling didn't manage to fit more jewels in!
Why do you suppose you need a higher beat-rate? If you reckon accuracy... well you might've checked that the Omega has an accuracy window that is half that of the Breitling COSC (5 seconds/day vs 10 seconds/day). Did you actually watch the video? Did you see the part about the tests Master Chronometer movements are subjected to? Among many other things, it's a truly anti-magnetic movement that can be taken into an MRI and still beat accurately. Needless to say, not so with the Breitling. Oh and whoever told you it's made by ETA lied to you. Apart from the power reserve, the Omega beats the Breitling in all the ways where it actually matters.
Need I go on? No contest really ;)
@@PerthWAtchNow Breitling were the first to offer a 5 year warranty? Omega first? Failure of the hour wheel? Underlying worries about the movements reliability with service needed before time? Heard a few stories!
Noticed you ignored power reserve point too? As for the co-axial escapement, it can afford to beat at a lower frequency because of its design. But in a Swiss lever, a lower beat per hour is associated with less accuracy. It’s on a microscopic scale, obviously, but the seconds hand might be a fraction more jumpy. Take the Zenith El Primero movement that’s so popular, it beats at 36,000. Sure, it’s not guaranteed that more beats means better movements but, generally, it’s what most brands seem to be shooting for. It is technically not in house. .Swatch group owns Omega and ETA, that doesn't make the fettled 8500 in house! Just saying !
Yes indeed, heard many stories about problems with Breitling movements!
Not sure what you’re going on about regarding the beat frequency... Zenith blah blah blah... the point is that Omega is more accurate, and that’s what matters. So you agree it’s better then it would seem ;)
Oh, and you think I “ignored power reserve point” but referring directly to it? Interesting opinion... or maybe you just need to read my comment again more carefully!
I say again - whoever told you ETA made these movements lied. You need to check your sources.
Thanks for the great video. I'm in Perth WA too. Do I hear a bit of Afrikaans in your accent? Is there a store in Perth that you would recommend for Omega SMP's or Rolex Subs? Cheers. 🙂
Haha absolutely not Afrikaans - I’m Malaysian!
There are only about 3 or 4 Perth stores you could get an Omega from… I’d just go with whoever can give you a discount.
There is pretty much no store you could get a Rolex you’d want from - in this or any other city! 😂
@@PerthWAtch Ah. My mother is Malaysian (Indian) 🙂. I have lot's of family in Malaysia.
My ears prick up when I hear an Aussie accent on TH-cam. I think Afrikaans (and Dutch) English sounds pretty close to Australian English.
I spotted one jeweller in Perth that sell Omega and one that sells both Omega and Rolex. Maybe if I went to the latter and bought an SMP, they will let me buy a Submariner from them later. Haha.
Cheers dude.
I find English is the closest but I can spot the difference between that and Afrikaans and Aussie without too much difficulty.
Let me know how you go with the Sub - many have tried that and failed, including myself!
I'm deciding between this and the Chrono version.
The chronograph is larger, heavier and thicker I believe, so that will need to be taken into account...