‼️for anyone watching this‼️ If you want a good laugh, scroll through the comments and read all of @fj7509’s enlightening posts. I’m not sure I’ve ever triggered anyone else this hard in my entire life. 🤣🤡
@@szakacselod8452Look for my comment instead. Are you a fan of his? Let me show you how I lectured your idol about how he doesn’t know the meaning of “devalue.” Spoiler Alert: He is deleting my comments 🫢 Grown man trying to shame people by calling them out like a Gen Z 😭 Yet, he can’t make a proper rebuttal.
I think you managed to trigger someone else too. Great video and triggering what is obviously a Rolex fanboy. Well done Sir. You have won the internet this evening.
@@inspector4133 Your idol keeps on deleting my comment because “the genius” doesn’t have the business knowledge to make a proper rebuttal. Yeah sure, “won the internet”, “trigger” people, what are you? A Gen Z. Omg, I’m gonna die because of internet shaming. I just replied to your idol because he’s asking how his video is trying to devalue Rolex. I just explained it to him. But now he is crying and keeps on deleting my last comment. But it’s okay, I know the feeling of how he really wants to debate and shame me but he’s not intellectually capable 🤣 I hope he internet shame me on his next video 🤞 old guy, calls out people like a gen Z, pathetic.
To h_ll with Rolex. Walked into the San Diego Fashion Valley Rolex boutique in Dec'22. Salesman says that he won't sell me one because we need to "establish a relationship first." WTH?!! With a disgusted look, walked out immediately, Went straight to Omega, was treated like a valued customer, and purchased 2 timepieces. I've since purchased a couple more - including one of my grails, the sapphire sandwich Speedy. All my Omegas keep great time (0 to +2s per day). I'm a loyal customer now.
Did he just want you to take him to dinner or did he also insist on you going back to his or your place afterwards? Who says you can only meet other people or potential partners on the Internet, sounds like you were nearly at first base by trying to make a purchase of something that made sure you weren't late for your first date! 😆
Agree with you comrade. Went to rolex shop to get a gold daytona to celebrate 30 years service (still got a 16523) looked at me like I was mad. Went to the Omega boutique in brum round the corner. They actually talked to me and got me a latte. Purchase 2 watches and never going back to rolex
I just can't fathom having to stroke someone else's ego for the "privilege" of spending THOUSANDS of dollars on their product. It should be the other way around. What they are really saying is to build a relationship you have to make several purchases before they will let you buy the one you really want.
I love their design and manufacturing. Hate their sales and service operations. There are plenty of vintage Rolex watches out there. The great thing about Rolex having such conservative design sensibilities is that one of their watches from 30 or more years ago looks almost exactly like one they made yesterday. You can own a Rolex without having to deal with the modern sales operation at all.
My grandparents raised me until I was 5 or so before I emigrated to the US in the 70’s to join my parents who came first to set up a life for us. My grandmother was a huge fan of Omega. I loved my grandparents dearly and perhaps I’m biased but Omega will always be the top brand in my mind. She finally passed away at the age of 100 not too many years ago after my grandfather who passed at the age of 96. So yeah, I miss them everyday and have a Seamaster and DeVille.
My grandfather was a gemologist for 40 years and told me as a very young man that Omega was the best watch on the market for the money. But he also told me that if I could afford one, to buy a Patek Philippe. I was a Soldier, so I bought a Seamaster Professional. Thank you Pa.
i sold my rolex as soon as i bought my first omega. The video is so true. Omega feels much better quality and much better design. Rolex is the same thing for decades with zero innovations.
Save your money. I wore a Rolex submariner for about six years in the late 2000s because I was in my 20s and thought I was the shit, but that watch couldn’t keep if it’s life depended on it. It was always running slow and every swinging dick that tried to look cool like me had one. Finally, I sold it I did not wear a luxury watch for many years in fact I just wore a Casio G-Shock but when the 43.5 mm Omega Planet Ocean came out I had to have it! It has been my daily wear watch for almost 7 years now and I could never see me wearing anything else. Best part no one has ever asked me if it’s real and it’s never lost time. Typically I’m gaining around two seconds a day which is amazing.
As a reformed Rolex kinda fanboy, lets be honest Omega is every bit the quality of watch as Rolex. Decades of advertising have created a Rolex perception that jacks up the price. They are great watches, but if you think a Datejust is a better watch than an Aqua Terra for example, you just don't understand.
On a related note, I am wearing a $3,000 Seiko diver right now, depth rating aside is every bit as good as my Sea-Dweller that I wore daily for several years. I used to be a diver watch depth snob, now I have matured into, 200 meters is all I care about. I do agree with one of the comments below about clickbait titles on TH-cam like "Rolex Killer" or "Submariner" killer. Some of those watches may actually be better or just as good as Rolex from an objective standpoint, but they will not beat the Rolex marketing machine that is many decades in the making.
@Tobester_McDonkey I've used plenty of bezels from both. In a daily wear setting the SMP is just as good as a sub as far as tightness and click. In water the grip of the sub is better yes but 99.9% of people don't use these for diving.
I used to be a depth snob as well. Bought a Sinn, bought a Subby, got the Tuna. Eventually filled my DW5600 with oil and have used it as my back-up for close on 16 years of my 24 years as a commercial diver. The others now stay nice and clean resting on cushions filled with rose petals.
I prefer omega not because of any paper spec or a more varied catalog. I prefer omega because they don’t ask me to wait in line outside the door of an empty store (and the one time they did that, there was no one else in the line). Visiting a Rolex AD is like going to a snotty restaurant that serves bad food just because the maitre D is rude to customers and you want to impress your chums with your ability to get into the joint.
Agreed. Having to jump through hoops just for the favour of allowing you to hand over 10 grand for a watch is rediculous. At other brands (Omega or Cartier) they actually make you feel like a guest when you visit their shop.
I own 4 Omegas and I am very pleased with them. I owned a Rolex Oyster Perpetual for 4 years, I didn’t take it off for 2 years after buying it, before I passed it on to my son for his fortieth Birthday. It was the best watch I have ever owned.
@@elrockerchido Fair comment. The Submariner owns the casual dive watch market, overpriced notwithstanding. Speedmaster Pro ran away with the chrono market over the Daytona that realistically, you can’t even have the one you really want.
@@elrockerchido You're correct. I have a diver and a chronograph in my rotation that are not as legendary, but more wallet-friendly: SMPc (41mm, black lacquer dial) & Carrera Heuer 01 (43mm, non-skeleton).
I started with Omega and have bought several. Great movements and unique watches. My only complaint is the thickness of them. I have 3 Rolexes as well. Just got an Explorer II and love it. I wear what I buy and only sell when I no longer wear a watch. I would recommend either to anyone. Availability is an issue though I think Rolex is getting better. I only waited 3 weeks for my Explorer II
I own a Sub I bought with the my first bonus as a commercial diver way back in '99. I likely won't ever sell it. That being said I LOVE my Grandpa's Omega Bumper and my dad's Speedy - both of which I inherited. If the taxman smiles at me this year I'm hoping to get my hands on either a Railmaster or an Aquaterra. PS: a DW5600 is my daily and has been since I first went under.
I also bought a submariner in 2001. My grail watch ...Have always wanted a vintage Omega n Haveing asked in a charity shop if there were any watches not working at the back .yes and she brought a huge box of watches ..one of which was an 1947 earlly Bumper Omega in SS seamaster it's mint and runs lovely not a mark on it ..I bought 20 watches for £10...boom 50p each result...
Everyone compares their watches to Rolex. Whether their price is justified or not, Rolex is the most influential watch brand in the world. They account for over 29% of global watch market's retail value. Second is somewhere in the 7%. I 've been buying Rolex since 1985 and have several but I also have couple of Omegas, JLCs as well. Today I'm wearing a Tissot PRX. I like all my watches.
@@Jimbobrasil What do you base your claim upon? I for my part just looked at Rolex once and that was more than 16 years ago when I planned to buy my first expensive watch. Looking at the Submariner at that time and then at what Omega offered for half the price for me was an eye opener. The Sub didn't have the slightest chance, especially with its flimsy clasp and bracelet, that I would only accept at a cheaper Seiko but surely not at a Rolex. Since then I never had interest in any Rolex, even if this "waitlist" crap wouldn't exist. So no, not everybody thinks about Rolex.
@@Harry-tb8yo Design and beauty is of course subjective, but saying Omega clasps and bracelets are superior to Rolex, not credible I’m afraid…Doubt you’ve held one in each hand.
@lilsusboi89 No, he started wearing one when Omega paid the movie producer to have the actor wear one. Enjoy your Omega, but be certain it is the watch the AD offers you when he doesn't have a Rolex to sell you. No matter how you slice it, dice it or make comical quips, it will never be a Rolex.
@@rafaeloliva6425 That came later. The decision to make him wear an Omega was at first made by Lindy Hemming, the costume designer for Goldeneye back then. I find it always amusing how offended some Rolex owners are and how they seem to feel the need to talk other watch brands down. Maybe some kind of inferiority complex which you desperately try to cover up by wearing a Rolex.
@Harry-tb8yo Nice try. Nobody looks down at their Rolex and thinks about Omega. Your projecting there slick. If anyone has an inferiority issues is you Omega fan-boys. Every Omega click bait video, is about the Omega owners crowing about how their watch is better. Rolex is more desirable and has the prestige that Omega will never have no matter how much Omega spends on advertising. Rolex doesn't need to collaborate with Swatch or any other such gimmick and cheapen their brand. Truth be told Omega is a 2 watch sport brand, that is 3rd in sales behind Rolex and Cartier. Your Omega is who has the "inferior " position in the luxury watch market p2cking order and sales. Omega was also late to the party in regards to Bond flicks. Ian Flemming did not write that Bond wore an Omega, did he? No Omega, was in the Bond movies, because someone was compensated period. Omega will always be Rolexes bitch, no matter how much you and other Omega owners wish otherwise. So get real.
Amen my brother. I have a few Rolex watches and honestly… I AM DONE with their games. So many other great obtainable watch companies out there, I am trying to build my Omega collection, have my Moon Watch and a SpeedMaster
Also, if you go Omega you have a choice if you want an integrated bracelet look in the Constellation. And if you want ladies style, Omega has all kinds of other designs. Also they offer quartz for a number of models...I am a fan of quartz for many reasons and that's why I sold both my Rolexes.
I own both brands and Jordy makes 4 good points. One more point is your own personal dignity. The Rolex ADs go out of their way and get some type of warm feeling by abusing their customers who are looking to celebrate a special life event by buying a Rolex. I personally do not need a Rolex so badly so I just stay out of the ADs showroom. I will go back when I see Rolex watches in the cases and they throw away the Exhibition Only signs.
Man the incessant whining about your feelings and dignity blah, blah, blah. It about supply and demand, more people want the crown, than the curent availability. stop acting like you got dumped at your senior prom. Either wait like everybody else or pay the premium on the gray market.
i have the money for a daytona, but why would I wait for years for a daytona when I can use the said money to buy a moonwatch and a seamaster and start enjoying them right now
Nothing against Rolex. But very little from their catalogue speaks to me. But, as you pointed out, Omega has variety & several speak to me. If it weren't for my rule of only one watch per brand, I'd get a few more Omegas.
My opinion is the exact opposite, too many variety of watches, models come and go like the flavor of the week ice cream. They lack the iconic design and timeless design of any( pick a model) Rolex.
@@rafaeloliva6425 Except for the Moonwatch. That is undoubtedly an iconic design. The appeal of Rolex is definitely timelessness though. You don't have to worry about how the style will age in 20+ years.
Rolex have become the go-to for tattooed poseurs, flaunting themselves on social media. They love the bling like magpies. Omega watches are technically superior, much more interesting, and the Speedmaster for example, is the most iconic watch in the world. I had a Datejust 41 which had to go back three times due to the well-known faulty wheel issue. It looked boring and I sold it. Never had a problem with my Omegas. That reminds me…time my Sub got some wrist time 😆
My stepdad had a 321 Speedy purchased in 1967. My uncle, a Navy Warrant officer (Vietnam) had an Omega Seamaster 300. My grandfather had a Hamilton 944 pocket watch. I’m 65. I have a Speedmaster with the Hesalite crystal and 3861 movement. I have a Seamaster professional 300 Diver both purchased new in May, 2024 and I have a 1921 Illinois Bunn Special, my grandfather’s other RR watch, which is only off a couple of seconds a day. I love the looks when someone asks the time and that gold pocket watch comes out. Omega, Hamilton and Illinois are family traditions and mine will be passed on.
I have a modest 5 watch collection - Grand Seiko 25th Anniversary Limited Edition 9S, Omega DeVille quartz, TAG Aquaracer for everyday, Citizen EcoDrive chrono for work/play, a private label Swiss quartz built by my local jeweler (it’s got a beautiful two tone dual-clasp bracelet that is fantastic), and an inexpensive 1990’s vintage Bulova extra-thin stainless/gold plate dress watch my employer gave me for 5 yrs of service. My next/dream watch - Omega Seamaster, JLC Reverso (or about any JLC actually), a GS Spring Drive…. I could not be less interested in a Rolex at 1/2 or even 1/3 the price. I’d rather find a nice looking vintage Longines for a fraction of the cost.
Let's be honest, Grand Seiko are leagues over both Rolex and Omega. They don't compare. GS are made by master watch makers and the other two are mass manufactured. And the GS bracelets are excellent, lack of micro adjust is not an issue.
Nowadays you can buy a pre-owned golden A. Lange & Soehne Saxonia or 1815 for the price of a Submariner. I know, comparing dress to dive watch - but still...incredible value to be had these days compared to Rolex fare.
The Millgauss is NOT being sold for $16,000 anywhere except maybe some ridiculous online watch chain. Those watches can be bought for $9500-$11000 at most with box and papers if you go to a good reputable local dealer
First time in over a year I’ve had one of your vids recommended by the algo (maybe they knew I quit buying new watches in 2020) but really enjoyed this one - no Rolex in my collection and no plans but I’m gearing up for another Omega sometime soon.
To be honest, there’s only a couple of models from each that interest me. I do like that Omega are going hard with the coaxial escapement though, which is clearly an improved design and will require less maintenance over time. I will be picking up a new Rolex with the 32xx movement and the “Chronergy” escapement in the next couple of months, and I plan on taking measurements once a week with a timegrapher, as I don’t fully trust Rolex’s new escapement design as of yet, with a decent number of reports of low amplitude over time, resulting in loss of accuracy. I suspect this may be down to issues of lubrication of the escapement, something that isn’t anywhere near as much of an issue with the coaxial design.
A good overview of Omega over Rolex, I don't believe the quality of Omega is over Rolex. When you put the two side by side there is a clear quality build difference. Totally on the button with pricing though Rolex is an investment watch and people with more money than sense are keeping the Rolex prices high for paying way over the retail price, I do believe this is partly to blame with Rolex not selling their watches to people who genuinely want to own a Rolex and enjoy wearing it. Omega are currently discounting some of their range at AD's here in the UK but this is the AD's stock so they can offer discounts to move stock that is not selling. I don't see the point of Rolex AD's and boutique's when you can't buy one. All very frustrating but a good topic for discussion. This is only my opinion and it's not meant to cause any discomfort for Omega or Rolex fan's. Keep the content coming.
I agreed to an extent. Although I never own either Rolex or Omega watches. I think Rolex offers more mid size watches (37-36mm) than Omega does. I can't find a 36mm case Omega watch that can replace or be an alternative to the Rolex Explorer 1/OP/Datejust. A 38mm and a 36mm has huge differences when on the wrist.
Dude if have a small wrist you should try the vintage stuff. Sadly for me anything below 42mm looks ridiculously small but if not I'd go nuts with vintage. Try the classic constellation, THAT... IS... ELEGANCE...
I have a 36mm Seamaster and it's pretty awesome. They also make a 38mm planet ocean and I thought that the Aqua Terra was available in 36, but I might be wrong. Also, the vintage Omega catalog is full of treasures for the small wristed gentleman.
Maybe an Omega 120m from the nineties. 36 mm, are very reasonable priced. I dont like the bracelet it comes with but you easily replace that with a mesh or leather one.
7 years ago I bought a 57 speedmaster over a Rolex Datejust. Everyone told me I made a mistake and since then I have been absolutely thrilled with my decision. Not only did I spend half the amount, I got a more complex watch with the chronograph. Second, to this day, I’ve never seen anyone with the 57 speedmaster model that I purchased. It stands out amongst all the other cookie cutter Datejust and GMTs that everyone else has. Just this week, after three years of trying to get a Wimbledon or Daytona watch through Rolex, I was finally fed up. Kissing the ass (building a relationship) of salespeople across three different Rolex boutiques proved to be futile and I decided to purchase an IWC portugeiser chronograph. I now have two unique watches that I love for the same price of a Rolex that would never be sold to me. Rolex’ hubris in being the best watch manufacturer and manipulation of their demand should compel everyone to look at all the other competitors who provide better customization, warranties, and value.
One of the problems with Omega is their resale values. If you buy an Omega new from a boutique and resell it a year later, you’re going to lose money on pretty much every single watch. Rolex doesn’t have that issue. With that said, you also can’t walk in and buy a Rolex.
"Conspicuous consumption" of the "Leisure Class" is Rolexs buisness model.....then add "Tudor" to sheild the brand with affordable alternative buffer...win win for Wilsdorf.......(Omega Ploprof🔥🤙)
I've been collecting Omega for quite a few years, got rid of my rolex collection and only kept one. Besides the quality and variety... You know what did the trick for me? They actually treat you with respect as a costumer, as it should be. Look I can wait for a year for a custom made Lange because I know the whole process and the amount of work and expertise involved, but I'm not and never will be into bj anyone and I'm not going to sign up for a fake waiting list just because. So far, my only regret has been not switching years ago. (and before a hurt snowflake starts with the list blah no, my Ad actually called a few times asking if I was OK and "just to tell me they got new stock", well good for you buddy, have fun).
I agree. I took my Omega speedmaster Reduced to their Regent Street, London, boutique, a year or so ago simply to have the bracelet adjusted after a period of non-use. They set the watch up completely, provided an archive copy of the original sales info. (I'd bought it from a reputable auction w/o papers) and offered me a tea/coffee while I waited, as though I were a regular buying one of their most expensive models. Somehow, I don't think Rolex would have done the same (if they'd even let me in through the doors)!
@@williamevans9426 same here , costumer service is key . They really treat you with respect as a costumer . I know omega also has a VIP list but as far as I know is very very different . I think it's a priority list for desired models . Personally I'd never seen better costumer service in a watch ad. Have to add I don't do Tag Heuer but they also have a fantastic costumer attention .
@@williamevans9426same here went in and they adjusted my links for a used omega 2531.80 seamaster 300m I bought, free of charge, gave me a Fiji and a beer whilst I waited. Even showed me how to install my new nato. They treat you like you just bought the watch that day.
Funny thing is that Lange has no waiting list. I was told by Lange in Frankfurt that I coult get any watch from their catalouge within weeks. If necessary they would ship it in from another country, but would not let me wait for months. Rolex can't even dream of delivering a fraction of the horology A.Lange does, but pulls out ridiculous waiting lists..
That is not true. I've owned over 7x Omegas since 2020 and never again. You obviously do not own any Rolex's. If you did you'd know that their build quality and finish is much better. Not to mention the wearability and comfort levels are way above Omega. Rolex's are simply more 'special' then Omega. The value retention is just a bonus. @@galatians22122
Omega prices getting silly, but bargains still to be had if you go for models from early to mid 2000s. My old Seamaster 2541.80 cost under £2000, and first generation Aqua terra was £2700... there is lots out there, just can't really justify today's prices... but yes, love omega
I got my first Seamaster (circa early 2000 or late '90s, like James Bond wore at the time) for $1500 lightly used in excellent condition n. Has been sitting, mostly, for the past 10 years or so. Needs to be serviced probably, but looks great though.
Well I'd definitely agree Omega over Rolex for sure you are not getting 2 or 3 times the quality for 2 or 3 times the price . I'm wearing my Dads 1953 Seamaster that he gave to me in 1973 , I wore it every day for the next 15 years & then once a week in rotation as my collection grew . It's never been serviced & still keeps great time . Cheers
I think the driving force with Rolex is simply brand recognition. For some people, simply being able to say “I own a Rolex” is a feature. I have a buddy who wants a batgirl bad, and I said to him, what if there was a watch with identical specs for 3 grand but it didn’t say Rolex, which one would you get, and guess what he picked…
Highly agreed on all your points. Rolex is great, but having the choice of a lady datejust or paying a stupid sum of money for a scratched up Rolex has really put a bad taste in my mouth. On a waitlist with the AD, expected date is 3 years for whatever variation they may have and most likely not the one I want. Don’t know if I will even care by the time I get a call
Omega is a better value, Rolex holds its value far better and carries more status. Just depends on what you value/want from the purchase. Frankly, I think both are a poor value for $ these days with so many great micro offerings, etc.
You forgot to mention what i think are the most important things, the innovation in omega, silicon hsirspring ,coaxial escapement, and new method to adjust a free sprung wheel comes so easy like speed master super racing model and not to mention the accuracy it is 0-2+ sec per day which is beating Rolex so called superlative chronomter
What you count towards the pros, I would count as a BIG red flag 🚩 Omega just spread its catalog too thin! It’s much more difficult to define Omega’s 🧬 than it is for Rolex …. Rolex stayed the course and kept its catalog sleek and clean ….. Omegas catalog is kind of messy 😅😉
Thank you for your insight. I stumbled across your video while studying on Omega as a possible next watch. Rolex has not and will not be on my radar because I have no patience for dog and pony shows like you called it. I have exactly one nice timepiece - it's a stainless IWC Pilot's Chronograph. It never leaves my wrist and I use the chronograph function routinely. I want a gold watch for formal and special occasions and I have it narrowed down to IWC Portugieser Perpetual Calendar, IWC Automatic 42, and Omega Speedmaster Moonphase. I was also thinking about an IWC Pilot's Chronograph in gold, but I don't want to duplicate the watch that I already have just for 'upgraded' case material. I think the perpetual calendar is one of the coolest set of complications ever. I like the simplicity of the Automatic 42. And I know I would use the heck out of the chronograph on the Omega and would likely wear it more often because of that. Do you have any suggestions among these three?
Appreciate the perspective and don’t disagree with everything you say. My first nice watch was an Omega Seamaster Pro 300 (the diver) - after doing a lot of back and forth between that and the Rolex Sub - around 20 years. I do think the points you make about the significantly more variety at Omega are both pros and cons. To me, the endless options at Omega somewhat cheapen the brand and make it come off more like a fashion brand rather than timeless horology. If you buy a submariner - Rolex may change the styling slightly - but in 20 years the design will still be similar. If you buy one of Omega’s designs - they may discontinue it and move in an entirely different direction. That can be a plus or a minus - you may end up with a very rare/unique piece. I buy watches with the intention to own them forever - so I don’t personally care - I believe you should buy what you like and will enjoy wearing. But Rolex is very consistent - so despite being hard to get at retail - you know that when you do - you have a very solid, consistent product. The Omegas you are taking some fashion risk. And not everyone who buys a high end watch wants to do that. They just want a nice, quality piece of metal that they can feel good about on their wrist. They don’t want to do a lot of research. Rolex is the safe choice for most people.
@@thetimetellerYou just called everyone who chose Rolex over Omega an IDIOT, all caps. Brand valuation is based on the companies earning power, by telling people to buy Omega instead, you’re attempting to lower their sales that would in turn, lower their brand value. So there you go, you’re devaluing Rolex. Even on the theoretical side of valuation, by hypothesizing that Rolex buyers are idiots who are making a mistake, you’re questioning the intrinsic value of the Rolex brand. I have an MBA mate, try me 😉 You’re on the internet, lots of intelligent people here. The only reason you’re telling people to buy Omega is because you could surely sell your Rolex inventory 😂 Don’t bite the hand that feeds you. You’re saying that everyone who bought Rolex from you instead of Omega is an IDIOT?
@@thetimeteller Bro, it’s okay to like Omega, it’s okay to like Rolex, don’t call people who choose Rolex over Omega IDIOTS. Because Rolex fans aren’t calling people who chose a Speedy over a Rolex idiots. Stop the hate. It’s so unprofessional to call your customers, Rolex buyers, IDIOTS. And even if you make excuses, the mere fact that you use the word IDIOTS, all caps even, is unprofessional itself. You’re desperate for views. You could have said “Why you’re making a mistake if you chose Rolex over Omega.”
@@samon_kurowassan oh no, an MBA degree! I’m quaking in my boots. Your credentials neither impress me, nor intimidate me. I do *not* have an MBA and by most metrics, I have a larger, more pronounced, more consistent track record when it comes to producing results in the business sector. Congrats on your piece of paper though.
Bought Submariner instead of Seamaster 300 Diver because of: 1. Thinner case profile 2. Better bezel action 3. Better bracelet and clasp 4. Better lume
Went and tried on a Seamaster a few years ago when I was looking for a watch. Hated the bracelet as it had some wiggle and wasn't aesthetically pleasing. On a rubber strap I'd consider one, but I have a DeepSea and like the way it looks and wears much better. It's all preference. I can't speak to Omega's sturdiness as I have never owned one, but I've owned a few Rolexes over the last 20 plus years and the two longest I've had went over ten years each before needing any service with minimal time loss. Again, my preference. Never got treated like crap at a Rolex AD either. I did get poor treatment at a Patek boutique though. So it can all be hit or miss.
I recently became the owner of a Rolex Datejust 41 . I went to the Rolex AD hoping to at least make a payment and get an invoice. I felt as if the AD wouldn’t even acknowledge me so I purchased on the secondary market. If Rolex calls I’ll pick up the OP I asked for , the AD wouldn’t even entertain my request for a blue dial . I looked into Omega and really like their catalog . Within a year if I don’t hear back from the Rolex AD , I go down to Omega and look at a Speedmaster .
When you buy a Rolex, you will spend 2K to much. When you buy an Omega, you lost 2k in one day. The fact is that everybody know that Rolex is the most famous brand in the watch world. Ask It someone and they will agree that Rolex is the link between succes and money.
You are spot on about Omega/Rolex availability and being actually able to buy one. A couple of years ago I was in the market for a GMT watch. I was kind of torn between a Rolex GMT Master II and a Omega Planet Ocean GMT. I contacted Rolex via the website and ended up with a reply saying I had to contact an AD and they could arrange a meeting where basically they would interview me and if I was suitable I would be allowed to join the waiting list. I got bored with the whole thing and went to my local Omega store. I walked in bought the Omega, had the bracelet resized for me and walked out with a brand new shiny Omega Planet Ocean GMT and a bank balance that was a lot lighter.
I totally agree with you, being a car and watch enthusiast, I think the only 2 watches I would get from Rolex are the AirKing ref 114200 34mm Blue dial or the latest Explorer 36mm which I've been on the waitlist for ever lol! That's about it, they don't even have enough option for my small wrist which I find very bad from Rolex, I went around and found a lot of Omegas that suit me with a great wearable size for a 6.25" wrist.
Unfortunately I have the problem of being a watch guy, and soundly, an securely middle class. Through judicious purchasing (waiting for sales, used market etc.) I have a decent watch collection, which includes 2 Omegas. A Speedy Racing, and a Railmaster. If I could afford a Rolex I'm not sure I would buy one. From what I understand they treat 99% of their clientele like S#1t. I also own an Oris, A Hamilton, A Zodiac, A Tissot, A Tag, and 2 vintage Zeniths, and I just got a Seiko Prospex style 60's GMT(so far awesome). Not bad, for not rich!
1. you have too little money 2. you like to lose money 3. Don't want to stand out with the watch 4. Omega movement and glass coated is better 😂😂😂 Love your videos 🤞😂🔥🎉
Thank you. I do not understand the fascination with Rolex, just like I do not understand the fascination with iPhone. Rolex (and iPhone) produces good watches, but they are not superior to Omega products in any way.
Totally agree, I have the new gen 36mm Explorer and newest black dial Explorer II but as regards divers the green dial Seamaster 300m professional and Tudor Pelagos ETA are my dive watches and I I feel there a are much better then Rolex divee watch offerings.
@@inspector4133 True that . I also collect because I truly like them , fortunately I don't have to see if I get lucky to make a few bucks selling any of my watches . Also the monetary value or fashion has no influence , much less impress anyone . Personally I have casio and seiko that enjoy all the way same as I enjoy wearing a patek or a Lange . It's not the price , it's not a fashion , it is a passion .
@@inspector4133 It's not about profit, it's about minimizing your loses. We always buy with the best of intentions but sometimes you just don't get along with a watch. If you buy used and don't over pay you can always flip it for what you paid.
Maybe you have a point in some issues, but my issue with Omega is they do not retain their value, sad because I bought a moon watch pro, although it’s not for investment, I feel sad every time I check its current market value. Maybe I should have bought a pre owned, but then again it would not make me happy
They may not hold their monetary value, but my Speedmaster Pro holds an emotional value to me that's immeasurable. I've wanted once since I was a kid in the 60s watching the astronauts wearing on. No Rolex will ever do that. There's value, and there's value. Take your choice.
I bought a Seamaster 300M with bracelet in 2020. It loses time despite METAS. The bracelet clasp pinched my skin. The extension regularly opened by itself. ☝️ 3 1/2 years later, I now have the Seamaster on an Omega rubber strap but still losing time, and upgraded to a Submariner. 🎉
Boom! You said it exactly how it is. I had the same issues with my SMP bracelet and clasp. Very uncomfortable and heavy. I ended up with a Sub date. It’s leagues ahead. Now just recently I got a YM 40 slate dial. This wears even better than the sub!
I dislike all the baggage that is associated with the Rolex brand (nouveau riche show off, impossibility to buy at ADs, etc.) but they do make quality watches. But at the end of the day, they simply don't cut it for me esthetically (case shape, dial color options, etc.) unlike Omega.
If there's only one watch I would NEVER wear, it would be a Rolex. It's such a ridiculously pretentious brand. If you are really into watches and technology, at least, show some education in the watchmaking business and buy something worth interest, buy something special, not ''a place in a club''. People complain other brands don't hold their value as a Rolex does. They don't love (nor know much about) watches imo. For those who think a watch is a mean for speculation, I have just one thing to say: buy some gold instead. Those guys should stop pretending they are a watch enthusiast just because they put 20.000$ in a Rolex. Personnaly, with the same money, I would go home with a Seamaster AND a GS Springdrive ANY time over a Rolex, no matter what value it might hold for a potential inheritor. Rolex simply does not deserve the (aging) hype. That's why they need all the drama. Sorry for you Rolex guys.
Thank you for your professional opinion, and I agree. Omega has been making watching before Rolex. They are COSC and METAS certified. Rolex make very durable/good quality watches, but have always had better marketing. Rolex has been a marketing brand, and Omega has always been about watch making. I have both, and really think that an Aquaterra or DJ would be a forever GADA. Between the two giants, Rolex sells watches, Omegas makes them. Question, If it wasn't for resale value, why would you still buy a Rolex?
I cross shopped the AT and OP and choose the Rolex for mostly pragmatic reasons. It was less expensive, had better value retention, wore better, had a better bracelet with better clasp and fit system, longer warranty, and service interval. The technical spec advantages of the Omega were insignificant to me as I don’t work around enough magnetism to require 15k gauss protection (I own several vintage watches and have never had to de-magnetize any of them). The accuracy is basically the same and the longer power reserve on the Rolex gave it the edge for my purposes. I also happened to like the classic under-the-radar looks of the OP better…ironic since many criticize Rolex for being too blingy. Another irony is that I put myself on the list for the OP and the Shades AT, and got the call from Rolex first.
Doesn't detract from the points made in this video, but Hodinkee did a side by side magnetic test between the "1K" Milgauss and a "15K" Omega and found both equally resistant in their test. I'm guessing Rolex has just never updated their rating for the Milgauss despite it's much great than 1K performance.
@thetimeteller, these are great points. However, I think there's a fifth point here that many don't realize. Longevity and Heritage. Omega is the original king of production watches and not until after the Quartz crisis did Rolex become the market leader. Before that, Omega was the market share leader by a good margin. I believe this heritage over multiple centuries has granted them that design prowess and boldness that is sometimes overlooked by many. To me, it's not better because it's "same for less." It's better because it just is. I'm a fan of Rolex for sure, but if I have to pick, it would have to be Omega.
There is also a huge difference between the two companies. Rolex is a extreme successful marketing firm which assembles and sales watches. Omega on the other hand is a true watchmaker. From a quality point of view, both are high end.
Most Rolex watches are made better than omega, and they have evolved over time also as industry leaders by a lot. Tudor will soon take a dump on your brand keep an eye.
@@estradaarmory Until 2004 Rolex movements were made by the Swiss manufacturer Aegler. Rolex bought Aegler, dial manufacturer Beyeler, winding crown maker Boninchi, and bracelet producer Gay Freres in 2004. Since then, we may want to call Rolex watches with in-house movements, dials, crowns, and bracelets. Prior this integration, Rolex was a watch assembly company only.
well, as an enthusiast that never owned neither rolex watches nor omega watches, with all due respect i don't really see the reason in this whole argument, if you want to talk about bang for the buck, bro, with the price of an omega you can buy yourself g-shocks and garmins that will last a shit ton of time, and once they stop working, it doesent really matter because you still have 3500 to buy another 500 dollar watch that can last you over a decade (while being way more practical and functional then all omega and rolex watches). so my man, if you are spending over 2k on a timepiece we know we are talking about jewelry, and since in a rolex vs omega debate, you won`t be able to find a way to prove that omega produces products with better quality, so at this point, people should stop the childish argument of wich watch is better than wich! just buy whatever you rather having on your arm!
I had a Seamaster Aqua Terra but traded it in for a white gold Day-Date (to lower the price of the day date on trade-in). Wouldn't do that for any other Rolex, but it's a day date and was one of my grail watches, and I got a fair price on it.
My first luxury watch was an Aqua Terra blue dial with date at 6 o’clock. It was top heavy and I changed the bracelet to an Artem strap which made it lighter and the wife wears it. Lol. But my Rolex Starbucks came it after waiting 10 months from AD. I love the glide lock which omega does do
If the seller doesnt treat you with the respect you deserve go elsewhere. The watches are priced far more than they are worth because of idiot demand. Dont be treated like shit for a product let alone a mass produced machine made product.
I own 2 omega a planet ocean and the james bond titanium… will sell them both and buy rolex…why? When was the last time you saw Rolex diluting it’s brand like Omega did with the moonwatch…which looks better than the original and it’s says swatch on it?
You make some good points. Don't have an Omega but they're nice. Have a Rolex Sub & Daytona, both purchased well below retail during really bad economic times. Pricing on their "good" models is silly. You can say whatever you want, but Rolex is a significantly more desirable time piece for whatever reason. You said it, I can walk into any dealer and walk out with a beautiful Omega.
After studying horology for over 25 years I agree 100% with this video. Like most watch enthusiast, I own both brands and am very happy wearing each. However, at the end of the day, Omega hands down offers more bang for the buck. Rolex watches are great, but they have become more of status symbol, and with that, comes double the price tag. Rewind back 15 years ago I would have said different as Omega offered mostly ETA based movements and Rolex offered their in-house 31XX series. In my opinion, the 31XX out performed the ETA based calibers and the 31XX was made with higher quality materials. With Omega's release of their in-house 8XXX / 99XX- (Chrono) movements it gave Rolex a run for their money in terms of performance, accuracy, and quality. Omega definitely offers more model variations, more choice of metals, more choice of complications, and you don't have to go on waiting list or be a "VIP" to purchase one. Not to mention, in most Omega models your now getting an in-house movement which is also a certified chronometer. Just my 2 cents. You as a collector/buyer must make your own determination.
I have bought four Rolex’s watches after my my first Omega Aqua Terra. I found the Omega top heavy with the bracelet. Lume was sub par, that butterfly clasp sucks. No micro adjustments, t fit in the fly adjustment. Omega is like Grand Seiko great looking watches with crappy bracelet
I honestly think I’d rather have a Cartier,JLC or IWC pilot watch like the new mark xx. I think there is better quality finishing for the money of both Rolex and omega. The specs on paper will not be as high but they will feel better!
im definitely choosing omega, but its sad that theres no good yellow gold colors for things like the seamaster or speedmaster like there are for the submariner
I think Rolex wins in the land of non watch enthusiasts. Ask anybody on the street to name a posh watch, they name Rolex. ( Holy Trinity would not be recognised) Omega and bond connection is raising awareness amongst non watch enthusiasts. I love both of my Omegas, but with list price and actual price of Rolex converging, on all but a few models, they start to look OKish again. You see so many Rolexlistings in secondary, you gotta think prices will keep falling, as watches are not moving.
Really liked this video. You make a great point. Personally, I've never owned either. I've always loved watches, but never considered a Rolex. It just seemed like the Ford Taurus of expensive watches. Rare, vintage and microbrands with interesting histories, stories and complications interest me. I think your video intrigues me enought that I could see owning a vintage (or maybe a new) Omega, but Rolex will always seem like a boring watch brand to me. JMO.
Put aside the terrible resale value, and cheap brand equity with releasing plastic toy versions of their watches - Rolex has Omega beaten ever day for movement toughness, bracelet quality and design. Omega has no consistent design language and too many corny limited edition cash grabs.
I love vintage Omega but modern Omega??? Is terrible now they stick rockets in sub dials and charge 15k. I don't recognize the brand anymore. 60s and 70's Omega is KING
@@lonewolfemcquade8133 that is such a shallow appreciation of the Apollo 8. There is so much more to that watch that is either ignored or simply not known. However as a question, do you feel the same about Rolex's puzzle/emoji dial or the bubbles Dial? Or is Rolex given a pass? Also how do you feel over vintage vs modern Rolex, is your preference for the 3 party manufactured Rolex's or models over the past 2 decades since Rolex purchased those companies?
@@thetimeteller watches are like women , some guys need a trophy wife , Other guys like to have variety and quality . . . (don't use this one , the femimonsters will crucify you lol ) 😂
I live in the uk and their is a jewellers in York which has Rolex but their is a max of 2 or 3 watches in the window display you the go to another jeweller which sells omega and their are about 50 omegas in the window
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If you want a good laugh, scroll through the comments and read all of @fj7509’s enlightening posts. I’m not sure I’ve ever triggered anyone else this hard in my entire life. 🤣🤡
I can't find them... did he delete them? Did you make screenshots? :)
@szakacselod8452 the genius deleted ‘em once I called him out. I screenshotted some, don’t worry;)
@@szakacselod8452Look for my comment instead. Are you a fan of his? Let me show you how I lectured your idol about how he doesn’t know the meaning of “devalue.” Spoiler Alert: He is deleting my comments 🫢
Grown man trying to shame people by calling them out like a Gen Z 😭 Yet, he can’t make a proper rebuttal.
I think you managed to trigger someone else too. Great video and triggering what is obviously a Rolex fanboy. Well done Sir. You have won the internet this evening.
@@inspector4133 Your idol keeps on deleting my comment because “the genius” doesn’t have the business knowledge to make a proper rebuttal. Yeah sure, “won the internet”, “trigger” people, what are you? A Gen Z. Omg, I’m gonna die because of internet shaming. I just replied to your idol because he’s asking how his video is trying to devalue Rolex. I just explained it to him. But now he is crying and keeps on deleting my last comment. But it’s okay, I know the feeling of how he really wants to debate and shame me but he’s not intellectually capable 🤣 I hope he internet shame me on his next video 🤞 old guy, calls out people like a gen Z, pathetic.
To h_ll with Rolex. Walked into the San Diego Fashion Valley Rolex boutique in Dec'22. Salesman says that he won't sell me one because we need to "establish a relationship first." WTH?!! With a disgusted look, walked out immediately, Went straight to Omega, was treated like a valued customer, and purchased 2 timepieces. I've since purchased a couple more - including one of my grails, the sapphire sandwich Speedy. All my Omegas keep great time (0 to +2s per day). I'm a loyal customer now.
Did he just want you to take him to dinner or did he also insist on you going back to his or your place afterwards? Who says you can only meet other people or potential partners on the Internet, sounds like you were nearly at first base by trying to make a purchase of something that made sure you weren't late for your first date! 😆
I would've gone back to the Rolly shop and waved my Omegas at him, taking joy in the fact he wasn't getting the sales commission!
Agree with you comrade. Went to rolex shop to get a gold daytona to celebrate 30 years service (still got a 16523) looked at me like I was mad. Went to the Omega boutique in brum round the corner. They actually talked to me and got me a latte. Purchase 2 watches and never going back to rolex
I just can't fathom having to stroke someone else's ego for the "privilege" of spending THOUSANDS of dollars on their product. It should be the other way around. What they are really saying is to build a relationship you have to make several purchases before they will let you buy the one you really want.
I love their design and manufacturing. Hate their sales and service operations. There are plenty of vintage Rolex watches out there. The great thing about Rolex having such conservative design sensibilities is that one of their watches from 30 or more years ago looks almost exactly like one they made yesterday. You can own a Rolex without having to deal with the modern sales operation at all.
My grandparents raised me until I was 5 or so before I emigrated to the US in the 70’s to join my parents who came first to set up a life for us. My grandmother was a huge fan of Omega. I loved my grandparents dearly and perhaps I’m biased but Omega will always be the top brand in my mind. She finally passed away at the age of 100 not too many years ago after my grandfather who passed at the age of 96. So yeah, I miss them everyday and have a Seamaster and DeVille.
What a story! Here’s to your grandparents 🍻
@@Not-a-bot222Thank you!
My grandfather was a gemologist for 40 years and told me as a very young man that Omega was the best watch on the market for the money. But he also told me that if I could afford one, to buy a Patek Philippe. I was a Soldier, so I bought a Seamaster Professional. Thank you Pa.
As a Seamaster and Speedmaster owner. I will eventually own a Rolex but for now, Omega has won me over in more ways than one
You and me both...
i sold my rolex as soon as i bought my first omega. The video is so true. Omega feels much better quality and much better design. Rolex is the same thing for decades with zero innovations.
Save your money. I wore a Rolex submariner for about six years in the late 2000s because I was in my 20s and thought I was the shit, but that watch couldn’t keep if it’s life depended on it. It was always running slow and every swinging dick that tried to look cool like me had one.
Finally, I sold it I did not wear a luxury watch for many years in fact I just wore a Casio G-Shock but when the 43.5 mm Omega Planet Ocean came out I had to have it!
It has been my daily wear watch for almost 7 years now and I could never see me wearing anything else. Best part no one has ever asked me if it’s real and it’s never lost time. Typically I’m gaining around two seconds a day which is amazing.
@@Nomad_783 the price differences on just getting the color you want is absurd with Rolex.
What’s an omega
As a reformed Rolex kinda fanboy, lets be honest Omega is every bit the quality of watch as Rolex. Decades of advertising have created a Rolex perception that jacks up the price. They are great watches, but if you think a Datejust is a better watch than an Aqua Terra for example, you just don't understand.
On a related note, I am wearing a $3,000 Seiko diver right now, depth rating aside is every bit as good as my Sea-Dweller that I wore daily for several years. I used to be a diver watch depth snob, now I have matured into, 200 meters is all I care about. I do agree with one of the comments below about clickbait titles on TH-cam like "Rolex Killer" or "Submariner" killer. Some of those watches may actually be better or just as good as Rolex from an objective standpoint, but they will not beat the Rolex marketing machine that is many decades in the making.
@Tobester_McDonkey I've used plenty of bezels from both. In a daily wear setting the SMP is just as good as a sub as far as tightness and click. In water the grip of the sub is better yes but 99.9% of people don't use these for diving.
So you think Rolexes great watches eh? You still have a long way to go son.
A Datejust is not technically better than the Aqua Terra, but it is way better looking.
I used to be a depth snob as well. Bought a Sinn, bought a Subby, got the Tuna. Eventually filled my DW5600 with oil and have used it as my back-up for close on 16 years of my 24 years as a commercial diver. The others now stay nice and clean resting on cushions filled with rose petals.
I prefer omega not because of any paper spec or a more varied catalog. I prefer omega because they don’t ask me to wait in line outside the door of an empty store (and the one time they did that, there was no one else in the line). Visiting a Rolex AD is like going to a snotty restaurant that serves bad food just because the maitre D is rude to customers and you want to impress your chums with your ability to get into the joint.
Agreed. Having to jump through hoops just for the favour of allowing you to hand over 10 grand for a watch is rediculous. At other brands (Omega or Cartier) they actually make you feel like a guest when you visit their shop.
Then even if you can get your hands on a Rolex, many people will assume it's a fake.
I own 4 Omegas and I am very pleased with them. I owned a Rolex Oyster Perpetual for 4 years, I didn’t take it off for 2 years after buying it, before I passed it on to my son for his fortieth Birthday. It was the best watch I have ever owned.
Cover up the brand name for a bit and what do you have for 6-7k?
@@tonyl7000 Any Omega- that retails over $15k.
Let me get my 🍿 I’m here for the comments section
Same, it’s just me, the popcorn, and my Submariner. Lol
Submariner and Speed Master. Both the most legendary Diver and Chronograph ever IMO.
@@elrockerchido Fair comment. The Submariner owns the casual dive watch market, overpriced notwithstanding. Speedmaster Pro ran away with the chrono market over the Daytona that realistically, you can’t even have the one you really want.
@@elrockerchido You're correct. I have a diver and a chronograph in my rotation that are not as legendary, but more wallet-friendly: SMPc (41mm, black lacquer dial) & Carrera Heuer 01 (43mm, non-skeleton).
I started with Omega and have bought several. Great movements and unique watches. My only complaint is the thickness of them. I have 3 Rolexes as well. Just got an Explorer II and love it. I wear what I buy and only sell when I no longer wear a watch. I would recommend either to anyone. Availability is an issue though I think Rolex is getting better. I only waited 3 weeks for my Explorer II
Totally agree. The size of omegas are just not the right size 9 times out of 10
I own a Sub I bought with the my first bonus as a commercial diver way back in '99. I likely won't ever sell it. That being said I LOVE my Grandpa's Omega Bumper and my dad's Speedy - both of which I inherited. If the taxman smiles at me this year I'm hoping to get my hands on either a Railmaster or an Aquaterra. PS: a DW5600 is my daily and has been since I first went under.
I also bought a submariner in 2001. My grail watch ...Have always wanted a vintage Omega n Haveing asked in a charity shop if there were any watches not working at the back .yes and she brought a huge box of watches ..one of which was an 1947 earlly Bumper Omega in SS seamaster it's mint and runs lovely not a mark on it ..I bought 20 watches for £10...boom 50p each result...
$16k for a milgauss ? Where are you getting these prices from?
Grey market.
His @ss most probably…
Everyone compares their watches to Rolex. Whether their price is justified or not, Rolex is the most influential watch brand in the world. They account for over 29% of global watch market's retail value. Second is somewhere in the 7%. I 've been buying Rolex since 1985 and have several but I also have couple of Omegas, JLCs as well. Today I'm wearing a Tissot PRX. I like all my watches.
Like any single dry stout that is not Guinness being compared to Guinness
@@OscarOSullivan I hope you're not an American, ....because have you tasted the Guinness in America??
That’s the funny thing, Omega wearer are always comparing and thinking about Rolex 😂
@@Jimbobrasil What do you base your claim upon? I for my part just looked at Rolex once and that was more than 16 years ago when I planned to buy my first expensive watch. Looking at the Submariner at that time and then at what Omega offered for half the price for me was an eye opener. The Sub didn't have the slightest chance, especially with its flimsy clasp and bracelet, that I would only accept at a cheaper Seiko but surely not at a Rolex. Since then I never had interest in any Rolex, even if this "waitlist" crap wouldn't exist. So no, not everybody thinks about Rolex.
@@Harry-tb8yo Design and beauty is of course subjective, but saying Omega clasps and bracelets are superior to Rolex, not credible I’m afraid…Doubt you’ve held one in each hand.
James Bond used to wear a Rolex... He switched to Omega when he got put on the waiting list for his new one
Good one 😂
@lilsusboi89
No, he started wearing one when Omega paid the movie producer to have the actor wear one.
Enjoy your Omega, but be certain it is the watch the AD offers you when he doesn't have a Rolex to sell you. No matter how you slice it, dice it or make comical quips, it will never be a Rolex.
@@rafaeloliva6425 That came later. The decision to make him wear an Omega was at first made by Lindy Hemming, the costume designer for Goldeneye back then.
I find it always amusing how offended some Rolex owners are and how they seem to feel the need to talk other watch brands down. Maybe some kind of inferiority complex which you desperately try to cover up by wearing a Rolex.
@Harry-tb8yo
Nice try. Nobody looks down at their Rolex and thinks about Omega. Your projecting there slick. If anyone has an inferiority issues is you Omega fan-boys. Every Omega click bait video, is about the Omega owners crowing about how their watch is better.
Rolex is more desirable and has the prestige that Omega will never have no matter how much Omega spends on advertising. Rolex doesn't need to collaborate with Swatch or any other such gimmick and cheapen their brand. Truth be told Omega is a 2 watch sport brand, that is 3rd in sales behind Rolex and Cartier. Your Omega is who has the "inferior " position in the luxury watch market p2cking order and sales. Omega was also late to the party in regards to Bond flicks. Ian Flemming did not write that Bond wore an Omega, did he?
No Omega, was in the Bond movies, because someone was compensated period.
Omega will always be Rolexes bitch, no matter how much you and other Omega owners wish otherwise. So get real.
Nice!
Amen my brother. I have a few Rolex watches and honestly… I AM DONE with their games. So many other great obtainable watch companies out there, I am trying to build my Omega collection, have my Moon Watch and a SpeedMaster
Rolex with its Artificial scarcity….haha
Also, if you go Omega you have a choice if you want an integrated bracelet look in the Constellation. And if you want ladies style, Omega has all kinds of other designs. Also they offer quartz for a number of models...I am a fan of quartz for many reasons and that's why I sold both my Rolexes.
I own both brands and Jordy makes 4 good points. One more point is your own personal dignity. The Rolex ADs go out of their way and get some type of warm feeling by abusing their customers who are looking to celebrate a special life event by buying a Rolex. I personally do not need a Rolex so badly so I just stay out of the ADs showroom. I will go back when I see Rolex watches in the cases and they throw away the Exhibition Only signs.
Walked into my local AD, walked out with an Explorer 1 36mm. They also have a few TT DJs for sale, as well as a solid gold Sub
@@augustojoseramonpinochetug5235no
Never had any issues with Rolex AD. Really nice experience.
Man the incessant whining about your feelings and dignity blah, blah, blah.
It about supply and demand, more people want the crown, than the curent availability. stop acting like you got dumped at your senior prom. Either wait like everybody else or pay the premium on the gray market.
@@rafaeloliva6425 drink the Kool Aid all you want but your comment shows you are ill informed.
My omega co-axial always keeps/kept time better than my Rolex’s
i have the money for a daytona, but why would I wait for years for a daytona when I can use the said money to buy a moonwatch and a seamaster and start enjoying them right now
Because it an iconic watch that will give you a lifetime of use and then sell it for 2x what you paid for it!
@@rafaeloliva6425 And what do you think the Moonwatch is?
Nothing against Rolex. But very little from their catalogue speaks to me. But, as you pointed out, Omega has variety & several speak to me. If it weren't for my rule of only one watch per brand, I'd get a few more Omegas.
My opinion is the exact opposite, too many variety of watches, models come and go like the flavor of the week ice cream. They lack the iconic design and timeless design of any( pick a model) Rolex.
@@rafaeloliva6425 Except for the Moonwatch. That is undoubtedly an iconic design. The appeal of Rolex is definitely timelessness though. You don't have to worry about how the style will age in 20+ years.
Rolex have become the go-to for tattooed poseurs, flaunting themselves on social media. They love the bling like magpies. Omega watches are technically superior, much more interesting, and the Speedmaster for example, is the most iconic watch in the world. I had a Datejust 41 which had to go back three times due to the well-known faulty wheel issue. It looked boring and I sold it. Never had a problem with my Omegas. That reminds me…time my Sub got some wrist time 😆
My stepdad had a 321 Speedy purchased in 1967. My uncle, a Navy Warrant officer (Vietnam) had an Omega Seamaster 300. My grandfather had a Hamilton 944 pocket watch. I’m 65. I have a Speedmaster with the Hesalite crystal and 3861 movement. I have a Seamaster professional 300 Diver both purchased new in May, 2024 and I have a 1921 Illinois Bunn Special, my grandfather’s other RR watch, which is only off a couple of seconds a day. I love the looks when someone asks the time and that gold pocket watch comes out. Omega, Hamilton and Illinois are family traditions and mine will be passed on.
I have a modest 5 watch collection - Grand Seiko 25th Anniversary Limited Edition 9S, Omega DeVille quartz, TAG Aquaracer for everyday, Citizen EcoDrive chrono for work/play, a private label Swiss quartz built by my local jeweler (it’s got a beautiful two tone dual-clasp bracelet that is fantastic), and an inexpensive 1990’s vintage Bulova extra-thin stainless/gold plate dress watch my employer gave me for 5 yrs of service.
My next/dream watch - Omega Seamaster, JLC Reverso (or about any JLC actually), a GS Spring Drive…. I could not be less interested in a Rolex at 1/2 or even 1/3 the price. I’d rather find a nice looking vintage Longines for a fraction of the cost.
Funny how people who allegedly have no interest in Rolex always ends up talking about Rolex 😂
@@Jimbobrasil Because it is the topic of this video? Is it not allowed to watch videos about a brand you are less interested in than in other brands?
Wow I got a similar collection Omega tag ecoo drive Bulova and Raymond & Neil
I totally agree !!! Also Grand Seiko over Rolex for me :)
Just bought a GS, what a beautiful bit of kit, and different, it gets so much interest.
GS with their 💩 bracelets with no micro adjustments even 😂😂🤦♂️🤦♂️
Well omega isn't in the same league as GS. GS is the best value for the money.
@@ferdinandgonzalez7407 except that GS bracelets and clasps are shite! No micro adjustments even let alone tool free adjustable clasps
Let's be honest, Grand Seiko are leagues over both Rolex and Omega. They don't compare. GS are made by master watch makers and the other two are mass manufactured. And the GS bracelets are excellent, lack of micro adjust is not an issue.
Nowadays you can buy a pre-owned golden A. Lange & Soehne Saxonia or 1815 for the price of a Submariner. I know, comparing dress to dive watch - but still...incredible value to be had these days compared to Rolex fare.
The Millgauss is NOT being sold for $16,000 anywhere except maybe some ridiculous online watch chain. Those watches can be bought for $9500-$11000 at most with box and papers if you go to a good reputable local dealer
First time in over a year I’ve had one of your vids recommended by the algo (maybe they knew I quit buying new watches in 2020) but really enjoyed this one - no Rolex in my collection and no plans but I’m gearing up for another Omega sometime soon.
To be honest, there’s only a couple of models from each that interest me. I do like that Omega are going hard with the coaxial escapement though, which is clearly an improved design and will require less maintenance over time. I will be picking up a new Rolex with the 32xx movement and the “Chronergy” escapement in the next couple of months, and I plan on taking measurements once a week with a timegrapher, as I don’t fully trust Rolex’s new escapement design as of yet, with a decent number of reports of low amplitude over time, resulting in loss of accuracy. I suspect this may be down to issues of lubrication of the escapement, something that isn’t anywhere near as much of an issue with the coaxial design.
There's a reason I'm rocking a Speedmaster right this second and not a Daytona.
A good overview of Omega over Rolex, I don't believe the quality of Omega is over Rolex. When you put the two side by side there is a clear quality build difference. Totally on the button with pricing though Rolex is an investment watch and people with more money than sense are keeping the Rolex prices high for paying way over the retail price, I do believe this is partly to blame with Rolex not selling their watches to people who genuinely want to own a Rolex and enjoy wearing it. Omega are currently discounting some of their range at AD's here in the UK but this is the AD's stock so they can offer discounts to move stock that is not selling. I don't see the point of Rolex AD's and boutique's when you can't buy one. All very frustrating but a good topic for discussion. This is only my opinion and it's not meant to cause any discomfort for Omega or Rolex fan's. Keep the content coming.
Once I got my skyfall AT I realized I was always reaching for it instead of my blue DJ, so I sold off my DJ.
No regrets.
If they would improve the clasp and add on the fly adjustment the AT would be the best mid level every day watch on the market.
I think if I ever got an omega or rolex, I would never take it off…..ever
So what do you do when the watch needs to be serviced? Chop off an arm?
@@yarly3180watches don't need service. You should only service it when it stops working. Servicing watches is a scam
I agreed to an extent. Although I never own either Rolex or Omega watches. I think Rolex offers more mid size watches (37-36mm) than Omega does. I can't find a 36mm case Omega watch that can replace or be an alternative to the Rolex Explorer 1/OP/Datejust. A 38mm and a 36mm has huge differences when on the wrist.
They aren’t for small feminine wrists 😂
Dude if have a small wrist you should try the vintage stuff.
Sadly for me anything below 42mm looks ridiculously small but if not I'd go nuts with vintage.
Try the classic constellation, THAT... IS... ELEGANCE...
I have a 36mm Seamaster and it's pretty awesome. They also make a 38mm planet ocean and I thought that the Aqua Terra was available in 36, but I might be wrong. Also, the vintage Omega catalog is full of treasures for the small wristed gentleman.
Maybe an Omega 120m from the nineties. 36 mm, are very reasonable priced. I dont like the bracelet it comes with but you easily replace that with a mesh or leather one.
Rolex is like living in Buckingham Palace, Omega is like living in The White House.
7 years ago I bought a 57 speedmaster over a Rolex Datejust. Everyone told me I made a mistake and since then I have been absolutely thrilled with my decision. Not only did I spend half the amount, I got a more complex watch with the chronograph. Second, to this day, I’ve never seen anyone with the 57 speedmaster model that I purchased. It stands out amongst all the other cookie cutter Datejust and GMTs that everyone else has. Just this week, after three years of trying to get a Wimbledon or Daytona watch through Rolex, I was finally fed up. Kissing the ass (building a relationship) of salespeople across three different Rolex boutiques proved to be futile and I decided to purchase an IWC portugeiser chronograph. I now have two unique watches that I love for the same price of a Rolex that would never be sold to me. Rolex’ hubris in being the best watch manufacturer and manipulation of their demand should compel everyone to look at all the other competitors who provide better customization, warranties, and value.
Crazy to think that if i sold my collection i'd still need to spend even more to maybe get a submariner! I'll keep my seamasters and others thanks 😂
One of the problems with Omega is their resale values. If you buy an Omega new from a boutique and resell it a year later, you’re going to lose money on pretty much every single watch. Rolex doesn’t have that issue. With that said, you also can’t walk in and buy a Rolex.
Excellent value when you buy pre-owned though.
then be that second guy... also I regreted much selling any of my watches...
Why buy a watch that you’re going to sell.
I don't consider my watches to be investments. I buy watches I love and want to wear for years and then pass them on to my kids and grandkids .
@edwinsepulveda5550 yes!!! Why buy a watch you are going to sell?? Pass it on, if you sell, let it be because you are hurting for money.
"Conspicuous consumption" of the "Leisure Class" is Rolexs buisness model.....then add "Tudor" to sheild the brand with affordable alternative buffer...win win for Wilsdorf.......(Omega Ploprof🔥🤙)
I've been collecting Omega for quite a few years, got rid of my rolex collection and only kept one.
Besides the quality and variety...
You know what did the trick for me?
They actually treat you with respect as a costumer, as it should be.
Look I can wait for a year for a custom made Lange because I know the whole process and the amount of work and expertise involved, but I'm not and never will be into bj anyone and I'm not going to sign up for a fake waiting list just because.
So far, my only regret has been not switching years ago.
(and before a hurt snowflake starts with the list blah no, my Ad actually called a few times asking if I was OK and "just to tell me they got new stock", well good for you buddy, have fun).
I agree. I took my Omega speedmaster Reduced to their Regent Street, London, boutique, a year or so ago simply to have the bracelet adjusted after a period of non-use. They set the watch up completely, provided an archive copy of the original sales info. (I'd bought it from a reputable auction w/o papers) and offered me a tea/coffee while I waited, as though I were a regular buying one of their most expensive models. Somehow, I don't think Rolex would have done the same (if they'd even let me in through the doors)!
@@williamevans9426 same here , costumer service is key . They really treat you with respect as a costumer . I know omega also has a VIP list but as far as I know is very very different . I think it's a priority list for desired models . Personally I'd never seen better costumer service in a watch ad.
Have to add I don't do Tag Heuer but they also have a fantastic costumer attention .
people are just idiots buying into Rolex.....its like Buying into a Movodo watch.
@@williamevans9426same here went in and they adjusted my links for a used omega 2531.80 seamaster 300m I bought, free of charge, gave me a Fiji and a beer whilst I waited. Even showed me how to install my new nato. They treat you like you just bought the watch that day.
Funny thing is that Lange has no waiting list. I was told by Lange in Frankfurt that I coult get any watch from their catalouge within weeks. If necessary they would ship it in from another country, but would not let me wait for months. Rolex can't even dream of delivering a fraction of the horology A.Lange does, but pulls out ridiculous waiting lists..
Owned 3 Rolex’s sold them. Own 2 Omegas would never sell them.
Yeah coz the Omegas are not worth anything 😂😂
@@MikoTheTomCat And you show your true colors. Buying a watch for its value in dollars rather than enjoying it.
That is not true. I've owned over 7x Omegas since 2020 and never again. You obviously do not own any Rolex's. If you did you'd know that their build quality and finish is much better. Not to mention the wearability and comfort levels are way above Omega. Rolex's are simply more 'special' then Omega. The value retention is just a bonus.
@@galatians22122
Cause nobody wants second hand omega
@@galatians22122I actually just bought the new white dial moon watch from the Omega boutique
Omega prices getting silly, but bargains still to be had if you go for models from early to mid 2000s.
My old Seamaster 2541.80 cost under £2000, and first generation Aqua terra was £2700... there is lots out there, just can't really justify today's prices... but yes, love omega
I got my first Seamaster (circa early 2000 or late '90s, like James Bond wore at the time) for $1500 lightly used in excellent condition
n. Has been sitting, mostly, for the past 10 years or so. Needs to be serviced probably, but looks great though.
Well I'd definitely agree Omega over Rolex for sure you are not getting 2 or 3 times the quality for 2 or 3 times the price . I'm wearing my Dads 1953 Seamaster that he gave to me in 1973 , I wore it every day for the next 15 years & then once a week in rotation as my collection grew . It's never been serviced & still keeps great time . Cheers
I think the driving force with Rolex is simply brand recognition. For some people, simply being able to say “I own a Rolex” is a feature. I have a buddy who wants a batgirl bad, and I said to him, what if there was a watch with identical specs for 3 grand but it didn’t say Rolex, which one would you get, and guess what he picked…
Highly agreed on all your points. Rolex is great, but having the choice of a lady datejust or paying a stupid sum of money for a scratched up Rolex has really put a bad taste in my mouth. On a waitlist with the AD, expected date is 3 years for whatever variation they may have and most likely not the one I want. Don’t know if I will even care by the time I get a call
Omega is a better value, Rolex holds its value far better and carries more status. Just depends on what you value/want from the purchase. Frankly, I think both are a poor value for $ these days with so many great micro offerings, etc.
Omega over Rolex any day!
You forgot to mention what i think are the most important things, the innovation in omega, silicon hsirspring ,coaxial escapement, and new method to adjust a free sprung wheel comes so easy like speed master super racing model and not to mention the accuracy it is 0-2+ sec per day which is beating Rolex so called superlative chronomter
What you count towards the pros, I would count as a BIG red flag 🚩
Omega just spread its catalog too thin! It’s much more difficult to define Omega’s 🧬 than it is for Rolex …. Rolex stayed the course and kept its catalog sleek and clean ….. Omegas catalog is kind of messy 😅😉
Thank you for your insight. I stumbled across your video while studying on Omega as a possible next watch. Rolex has not and will not be on my radar because I have no patience for dog and pony shows like you called it. I have exactly one nice timepiece - it's a stainless IWC Pilot's Chronograph. It never leaves my wrist and I use the chronograph function routinely. I want a gold watch for formal and special occasions and I have it narrowed down to IWC Portugieser Perpetual Calendar, IWC Automatic 42, and Omega Speedmaster Moonphase. I was also thinking about an IWC Pilot's Chronograph in gold, but I don't want to duplicate the watch that I already have just for 'upgraded' case material. I think the perpetual calendar is one of the coolest set of complications ever. I like the simplicity of the Automatic 42. And I know I would use the heck out of the chronograph on the Omega and would likely wear it more often because of that. Do you have any suggestions among these three?
Appreciate the perspective and don’t disagree with everything you say.
My first nice watch was an Omega Seamaster Pro 300 (the diver) - after doing a lot of back and forth between that and the Rolex Sub - around 20 years.
I do think the points you make about the significantly more variety at Omega are both pros and cons.
To me, the endless options at Omega somewhat cheapen the brand and make it come off more like a fashion brand rather than timeless horology.
If you buy a submariner - Rolex may change the styling slightly - but in 20 years the design will still be similar.
If you buy one of Omega’s designs - they may discontinue it and move in an entirely different direction.
That can be a plus or a minus - you may end up with a very rare/unique piece.
I buy watches with the intention to own them forever - so I don’t personally care - I believe you should buy what you like and will enjoy wearing.
But Rolex is very consistent - so despite being hard to get at retail - you know that when you do - you have a very solid, consistent product.
The Omegas you are taking some fashion risk.
And not everyone who buys a high end watch wants to do that. They just want a nice, quality piece of metal that they can feel good about on their wrist.
They don’t want to do a lot of research.
Rolex is the safe choice for most people.
Should i buy ( second hand) a blancpain 50 fathoms or omega aqua tera
“To be fair, I’m not wearing my Rolex or my Omega.”
Nice flex. Glad we cleared that up.
I bought a 1973 Speedmaster 145.022 for 4000$ in 2020, how much would it cost to buy a 1973 Daytona? How available are they.
Oh no you can't say you would take anything over a Rolex man the fanboys will be beyond triggered lol
@fj7509 I own 5 Rolex and have sold even more. Please explain how this video is an attempt at devaluing Rolex?
Yes, that’s the title of the video, good job, now answer the question- how is that an attempt to DEVALUE Rolex as a brand?
@@thetimetellerYou just called everyone who chose Rolex over Omega an IDIOT, all caps. Brand valuation is based on the companies earning power, by telling people to buy Omega instead, you’re attempting to lower their sales that would in turn, lower their brand value. So there you go, you’re devaluing Rolex. Even on the theoretical side of valuation, by hypothesizing that Rolex buyers are idiots who are making a mistake, you’re questioning the intrinsic value of the Rolex brand. I have an MBA mate, try me 😉 You’re on the internet, lots of intelligent people here.
The only reason you’re telling people to buy Omega is because you could surely sell your Rolex inventory 😂 Don’t bite the hand that feeds you. You’re saying that everyone who bought Rolex from you instead of Omega is an IDIOT?
@@thetimeteller Bro, it’s okay to like Omega, it’s okay to like Rolex, don’t call people who choose Rolex over Omega IDIOTS. Because Rolex fans aren’t calling people who chose a Speedy over a Rolex idiots. Stop the hate. It’s so unprofessional to call your customers, Rolex buyers, IDIOTS.
And even if you make excuses, the mere fact that you use the word IDIOTS, all caps even, is unprofessional itself. You’re desperate for views. You could have said “Why you’re making a mistake if you chose Rolex over Omega.”
@@samon_kurowassan oh no, an MBA degree! I’m quaking in my boots.
Your credentials neither impress me, nor intimidate me. I do *not* have an MBA and by most metrics, I have a larger, more pronounced, more consistent track record when it comes to producing results in the business sector.
Congrats on your piece of paper though.
Dials hands down Omega. Only thing I like from Rolex is their fluted bezel, very classy. Buy what you like, I'd pick Omega 9 times out of 10.
Bought Submariner instead of Seamaster 300 Diver because of:
1. Thinner case profile
2. Better bezel action
3. Better bracelet and clasp
4. Better lume
Based and sub pilled.
I own 124060 and a 3861 Sapphire Speedy. But The Time Yeller needs divisive content for them views.
Clickbait using Rolex but both brands are good.
What Omega Seamaster model is that in the beginning of your video?
Went and tried on a Seamaster a few years ago when I was looking for a watch. Hated the bracelet as it had some wiggle and wasn't aesthetically pleasing. On a rubber strap I'd consider one, but I have a DeepSea and like the way it looks and wears much better. It's all preference. I can't speak to Omega's sturdiness as I have never owned one, but I've owned a few Rolexes over the last 20 plus years and the two longest I've had went over ten years each before needing any service with minimal time loss. Again, my preference. Never got treated like crap at a Rolex AD either. I did get poor treatment at a Patek boutique though. So it can all be hit or miss.
I recently became the owner of a Rolex Datejust 41 . I went to the Rolex AD hoping to at least make a payment and get an invoice. I felt as if the AD wouldn’t even acknowledge me so I purchased on the secondary market. If Rolex calls I’ll pick up the OP I asked for , the AD wouldn’t even entertain my request for a blue dial . I looked into Omega and really like their catalog . Within a year if I don’t hear back from the Rolex AD , I go down to Omega and look at a Speedmaster .
When you buy a Rolex, you will spend 2K to much. When you buy an Omega, you lost 2k in one day. The fact is that everybody know that Rolex is the most famous brand in the watch world. Ask It someone and they will agree that Rolex is the link between succes and money.
You are spot on about Omega/Rolex availability and being actually able to buy one. A couple of years ago I was in the market for a GMT watch. I was kind of torn between a Rolex GMT Master II and a Omega Planet Ocean GMT. I contacted Rolex via the website and ended up with a reply saying I had to contact an AD and they could arrange a meeting where basically they would interview me and if I was suitable I would be allowed to join the waiting list. I got bored with the whole thing and went to my local Omega store. I walked in bought the Omega, had the bracelet resized for me and walked out with a brand new shiny Omega Planet Ocean GMT and a bank balance that was a lot lighter.
I totally agree with you, being a car and watch enthusiast, I think the only 2 watches I would get from Rolex are the AirKing ref 114200 34mm Blue dial or the latest Explorer 36mm which I've been on the waitlist for ever lol! That's about it, they don't even have enough option for my small wrist which I find very bad from Rolex, I went around and found a lot of Omegas that suit me with a great wearable size for a 6.25" wrist.
Unfortunately I have the problem of being a watch guy, and soundly, an securely middle class. Through judicious purchasing (waiting for sales, used market etc.) I have a decent watch collection, which includes 2 Omegas. A Speedy Racing, and a Railmaster. If I could afford a Rolex I'm not sure I would buy one. From what I understand they treat 99% of their clientele like S#1t. I also own an Oris, A Hamilton, A Zodiac, A Tissot, A Tag, and 2 vintage Zeniths, and I just got a Seiko Prospex style 60's GMT(so far awesome).
Not bad, for not rich!
1. you have too little money
2. you like to lose money
3. Don't want to stand out with the watch
4. Omega movement and glass coated is better 😂😂😂
Love your videos 🤞😂🔥🎉
Yeah, walked in and bought my Aqua Terra 150M at a discount and they were actually nice to me. What a concept. Beautiful watch. Good experience.
Thank you. I do not understand the fascination with Rolex, just like I do not understand the fascination with iPhone. Rolex (and iPhone) produces good watches, but they are not superior to Omega products in any way.
Totally agree, I have the new gen 36mm Explorer and newest black dial Explorer II but as regards divers the green dial Seamaster 300m professional and Tudor Pelagos ETA are my dive watches and I I feel there a are much better then Rolex divee watch offerings.
5th Reason: You can’t sell the Omega so you just wear it 🤣🤣
Buy omega used. let someone else eat the depreciation.
@@claytonberg721 ngl good idea
Strangely enough, some of us actually DO just buy watches to actually wear them. Not everyone "collects" for profit. Some of us actually love watches.
@@inspector4133 True that . I also collect because I truly like them , fortunately I don't have to see if I get lucky to make a few bucks selling any of my watches . Also the monetary value or fashion has no influence , much less impress anyone . Personally I have casio and seiko that enjoy all the way same as I enjoy wearing a patek or a Lange .
It's not the price , it's not a fashion , it is a passion .
@@inspector4133 It's not about profit, it's about minimizing your loses. We always buy with the best of intentions but sometimes you just don't get along with a watch. If you buy used and don't over pay you can always flip it for what you paid.
Maybe you have a point in some issues, but my issue with Omega is they do not retain their value, sad because I bought a moon watch pro, although it’s not for investment, I feel sad every time I check its current market value. Maybe I should have bought a pre owned, but then again it would not make me happy
Just enjoy the watch man.
They may not hold their monetary value, but my Speedmaster Pro holds an emotional value to me that's immeasurable. I've wanted once since I was a kid in the 60s watching the astronauts wearing on. No Rolex will ever do that.
There's value, and there's value. Take your choice.
@@LymanPhillips yeah, I guess what makes one happy, no quarrel about that😊😊😊
I bought a Seamaster 300M with bracelet in 2020. It loses time despite METAS. The bracelet clasp pinched my skin. The extension regularly opened by itself. ☝️ 3 1/2 years later, I now have the Seamaster on an Omega rubber strap but still losing time, and upgraded to a Submariner. 🎉
Boom! You said it exactly how it is. I had the same issues with my SMP bracelet and clasp. Very uncomfortable and heavy. I ended up with a Sub date. It’s leagues ahead. Now just recently I got a YM 40 slate dial. This wears even better than the sub!
I dislike all the baggage that is associated with the Rolex brand (nouveau riche show off, impossibility to buy at ADs, etc.) but they do make quality watches.
But at the end of the day, they simply don't cut it for me esthetically (case shape, dial color options, etc.) unlike Omega.
If there's only one watch I would NEVER wear, it would be a Rolex. It's such a ridiculously pretentious brand. If you are really into watches and technology, at least, show some education in the watchmaking business and buy something worth interest, buy something special, not ''a place in a club''. People complain other brands don't hold their value as a Rolex does. They don't love (nor know much about) watches imo. For those who think a watch is a mean for speculation, I have just one thing to say: buy some gold instead. Those guys should stop pretending they are a watch enthusiast just because they put 20.000$ in a Rolex. Personnaly, with the same money, I would go home with a Seamaster AND a GS Springdrive ANY time over a Rolex, no matter what value it might hold for a potential inheritor. Rolex simply does not deserve the (aging) hype. That's why they need all the drama.
Sorry for you Rolex guys.
Thank you for your professional opinion, and I agree. Omega has been making watching before Rolex. They are COSC and METAS certified. Rolex make very durable/good quality watches, but have always had better marketing. Rolex has been a marketing brand, and Omega has always been about watch making. I have both, and really think that an Aquaterra or DJ would be a forever GADA. Between the two giants, Rolex sells watches, Omegas makes them. Question, If it wasn't for resale value, why would you still buy a Rolex?
Why choose? Get an omega and a rolex.
I cross shopped the AT and OP and choose the Rolex for mostly pragmatic reasons. It was less expensive, had better value retention, wore better, had a better bracelet with better clasp and fit system, longer warranty, and service interval. The technical spec advantages of the Omega were insignificant to me as I don’t work around enough magnetism to require 15k gauss protection (I own several vintage watches and have never had to de-magnetize any of them). The accuracy is basically the same and the longer power reserve on the Rolex gave it the edge for my purposes. I also happened to like the classic under-the-radar looks of the OP better…ironic since many criticize Rolex for being too blingy. Another irony is that I put myself on the list for the OP and the Shades AT, and got the call from Rolex first.
Doesn't detract from the points made in this video, but Hodinkee did a side by side magnetic test between the "1K" Milgauss and a "15K" Omega and found both equally resistant in their test. I'm guessing Rolex has just never updated their rating for the Milgauss despite it's much great than 1K performance.
@thetimeteller, these are great points. However, I think there's a fifth point here that many don't realize. Longevity and Heritage. Omega is the original king of production watches and not until after the Quartz crisis did Rolex become the market leader. Before that, Omega was the market share leader by a good margin. I believe this heritage over multiple centuries has granted them that design prowess and boldness that is sometimes overlooked by many. To me, it's not better because it's "same for less." It's better because it just is. I'm a fan of Rolex for sure, but if I have to pick, it would have to be Omega.
There is also a huge difference between the two companies. Rolex is a extreme successful marketing firm which assembles and sales watches. Omega on the other hand is a true watchmaker. From a quality point of view, both are high end.
Not trying to be difficult here, but if Rolex is designing and manufacturing in-house movements, how are they not a watchmaker?
Most Rolex watches are made better than omega, and they have evolved over time also as industry leaders by a lot. Tudor will soon take a dump on your brand keep an eye.
@@estradaarmory Until 2004 Rolex movements were made by the Swiss manufacturer Aegler. Rolex bought Aegler, dial manufacturer Beyeler, winding crown maker Boninchi, and bracelet producer Gay Freres in 2004. Since then, we may want to call Rolex watches with in-house movements, dials, crowns, and bracelets. Prior this integration, Rolex was a watch assembly company only.
@@torontowatches9709 this is typical illusory truth effect. But if it makes you happy, go for it.
@@TheTejanoJose learned something new today, thank you very much.
It is an act of charity to sell a Rolex to a customer. ADs are so merciful to grant you the chance to spend a fortune.
well, as an enthusiast that never owned neither rolex watches nor omega watches, with all due respect i don't really see the reason in this whole argument, if you want to talk about bang for the buck, bro, with the price of an omega you can buy yourself g-shocks and garmins that will last a shit ton of time, and once they stop working, it doesent really matter because you still have 3500 to buy another 500 dollar watch that can last you over a decade (while being way more practical and functional then all omega and rolex watches). so my man, if you are spending over 2k on a timepiece we know we are talking about jewelry, and since in a rolex vs omega debate, you won`t be able to find a way to prove that omega produces products with better quality, so at this point, people should stop the childish argument of wich watch is better than wich! just buy whatever you rather having on your arm!
Great comment
I had a Seamaster Aqua Terra but traded it in for a white gold Day-Date (to lower the price of the day date on trade-in). Wouldn't do that for any other Rolex, but it's a day date and was one of my grail watches, and I got a fair price on it.
I agree, no interest in a Rolex and I own an Omega.
I have both and I like them both. Saying its a binary choice is simply clickbait and it works every time.
My first luxury watch was an Aqua Terra blue dial with date at 6 o’clock. It was top heavy and I changed the bracelet to an Artem strap which made it lighter and the wife wears it. Lol. But my Rolex Starbucks came it after waiting 10 months from AD. I love the glide lock which omega does do
I'll take my Aqua Terra any day
If the seller doesnt treat you with the respect you deserve go elsewhere. The watches are priced far more than they are worth because of idiot demand. Dont be treated like shit for a product let alone a mass produced machine made product.
I own 2 omega a planet ocean and the james bond titanium… will sell them both and buy rolex…why?
When was the last time you saw Rolex diluting it’s brand like Omega did with the moonwatch…which looks better than the original and it’s says swatch on it?
You make some good points. Don't have an Omega but they're nice. Have a Rolex Sub & Daytona, both purchased well below retail during really bad economic times. Pricing on their "good" models is silly. You can say whatever you want, but Rolex is a significantly more desirable time piece for whatever reason. You said it, I can walk into any dealer and walk out with a beautiful Omega.
After studying horology for over 25 years I agree 100% with this video. Like most watch enthusiast, I own both brands and am very happy wearing each. However, at the end of the day, Omega hands down offers more bang for the buck. Rolex watches are great, but they have become more of status symbol, and with that, comes double the price tag. Rewind back 15 years ago I would have said different as Omega offered mostly ETA based movements and Rolex offered their in-house 31XX series. In my opinion, the 31XX out performed the ETA based calibers and the 31XX was made with higher quality materials. With Omega's release of their in-house 8XXX / 99XX- (Chrono) movements it gave Rolex a run for their money in terms of performance, accuracy, and quality. Omega definitely offers more model variations, more choice of metals, more choice of complications, and you don't have to go on waiting list or be a "VIP" to purchase one. Not to mention, in most Omega models your now getting an in-house movement which is also a certified chronometer. Just my 2 cents. You as a collector/buyer must make your own determination.
We always settle for omega when we can’t get a Rolex,
I have bought four Rolex’s watches after my my first Omega Aqua Terra. I found the Omega top heavy with the bracelet. Lume was sub par, that butterfly clasp sucks. No micro adjustments, t fit in the fly adjustment. Omega is like Grand Seiko great looking watches with crappy bracelet
I honestly think I’d rather have a Cartier,JLC or IWC pilot watch like the new mark xx.
I think there is better quality finishing for the money of both Rolex and omega. The specs on paper will not be as high but they will feel better!
im definitely choosing omega, but its sad that theres no good yellow gold colors for things like the seamaster or speedmaster like there are for the submariner
People who know watches will get an Omega. Those who don't, Rolex. Next up for me - Omega Speedmaster Racing, white face, white subdials.
Oh, is that right, Kevin?
What utter bs 💩 🤦♂️🤦♂️
I think Rolex wins in the land of non watch enthusiasts. Ask anybody on the street to name a posh watch, they name Rolex. ( Holy Trinity would not be recognised) Omega and bond connection is raising awareness amongst non watch enthusiasts. I love both of my Omegas, but with list price and actual price of Rolex converging, on all but a few models, they start to look OKish again. You see so many Rolexlistings in secondary, you gotta think prices will keep falling, as watches are not moving.
Really liked this video. You make a great point. Personally, I've never owned either. I've always loved watches, but never considered a Rolex. It just seemed like the Ford Taurus of expensive watches. Rare, vintage and microbrands with interesting histories, stories and complications interest me. I think your video intrigues me enought that I could see owning a vintage (or maybe a new) Omega, but Rolex will always seem like a boring watch brand to me. JMO.
You buy Rolex for the brand name
You buy Omega for quality
That’s essentially what I got from this video
No you buy an Omega, because your butt hurt the AD won't sell you one on the spot. Is the message of this click bait video.
Put aside the terrible resale value, and cheap brand equity with releasing plastic toy versions of their watches - Rolex has Omega beaten ever day for movement toughness, bracelet quality and design. Omega has no consistent design language and too many corny limited edition cash grabs.
Rolex has problems with their 3200 series movement. Their most common movement has problems
I love vintage Omega but modern Omega??? Is terrible now they stick rockets in sub dials and charge 15k. I don't recognize the brand anymore. 60s and 70's Omega is KING
@@lonewolfemcquade8133 that is such a shallow appreciation of the Apollo 8. There is so much more to that watch that is either ignored or simply not known.
However as a question, do you feel the same about Rolex's puzzle/emoji dial or the bubbles Dial? Or is Rolex given a pass?
Also how do you feel over vintage vs modern Rolex, is your preference for the 3 party manufactured Rolex's or models over the past 2 decades since Rolex purchased those companies?
What should be the first watch for someone buying first luxury watch?
"You're an idiot if you buy a Porsche instead of a Toyota"
Expand further on that comparison- I’m interested.
@@thetimeteller watches are like women , some guys need a trophy wife , Other guys like to have variety and quality . . . (don't use this one , the femimonsters will crucify you lol ) 😂
I live in the uk and their is a jewellers in York which has Rolex but their is a max of 2 or 3 watches in the window display you the go to another jeweller which sells omega and their are about 50 omegas in the window