What a excellent conversation. As a man, in my seventies, who grew up in the South West, but now live in Southern Mississippi, these points, all strike a chord. Thank you Jon & Alan for the wonderful conversation, as I enjoyed my Toro cigar. Blessings.
Alan has such a wonderful southern cadence. I've been watching his pipe and "gentleman philosophy" videos for awhile now. Nice to unexpectedly see "worlds colliding" here on Conversations that Matter.
Excellent interview with Mr. Harrelson, Jon! It is refreshing to hear the old, classic Southern accent spoken so well, redolent with the rhythms and cadences of the Tidewater and the Deep South. While my kin here in Tennessee speak with either the accent of Greater Appalachia or something akin to Mr. Harrelson's (My mother's side of the family originally came here from old Virginia and North Carolina back in the late 18th/early 19th century), many young folks, either due to apathy or too much exposure to pop culture, sound like some version of Valley Guys or Girls! That said, I believe y'all are right about the divide being primarily a spiritual one, even if many are unaware of it. Still, I have grown utterly sick and tired of those in the church who argue that any love of family, home, or heritage, is well nigh - if not actually - a form of idolatry. The rootlessness they encourage, whether intended or not, has had deep and lasting effects on what passes for American "culture", and the very idea of family and community they ostensibly want to strengthen through their (truncated) Gospel. In fact, when I hear that now-buzzword, "community", from them, I can't help but contrast it with the forms of genuine community I saw in my family's home county, and, while imperfect, indicate a greater understanding of it in my people's blood and bones, than these so-called experts on church planting and community building in the church now.
Alan thank you for introducing me to Jon's channel. I answered that question for my family as I wanted the Generations that follow to have a legacy of Land Stewardship. I will be enjoying 5 Generations together on our land this weekend. Yes, several Generations will be representing your Pipe Cottage Social at JM Boswell's Saturday.
So many of the things I like and admire about America seem to be disappearing by the day. It’s losing its spirit and character and becoming a bland, generic mess shaped by corporations and foolish ideas. You can say the same about most of Europe too. God bless Alan and those like him for upholding traditional thoughts, ideas and things that really matter and mean something.
@@phannybrce I'm from a small town in Central Alabama, and nobody, and I mean nobody, under the age of 70 talks with this sort of accent. And you're right, he actually sounds like an actor attempting to play a role; however, I suppose it's legit. Fascinating. His PipeCottage channel is really good. Highly recommend.
I'd like to know how he approached his move in regard to a local church. I've looked a fair amount into buying land and moving but one major downside would be leaving a very good church to go somewhere with very few options, which may or may not be solid. It also usually means being further from the church, which limits the involvement in things that aren't on Sundays (i.e. we have Wednesday church, small group meetings, men's morning Bible study, etc.)
This is a reasonable thought. The smaller counties here have A LOT of churches, but not a lot of churches to which we would be led. It took a ton of research, prayer, and patience. Definitely a good idea to look at that before a big move, especially if you are not looking to SBC, which is the lion-share around here.
I love this man's accent! Also Kentucky is the best southern state. I used to live in Louisville a couple years ago before I took a pastoral position in south west KY. Town is 8000 people. There's problems but a lot of pros too. I hope to get some land in Kentucky too though I don't know if it's going to be over 200 acres. Anyway this was a great show thanks again Jon
Honestly, the accent demotes him almost as much as the Boston accent gives the impression of being backward and uneducated....and then I see the Dr. after his name and it blows my prejudice away. But also honestly, listening him leaving the land as is as well as being able to move into no mans land is telling. Not everyone can simply up and move where ever they want. Why don't you talk to someone who can't move at a moments notice who has nothing to fall back on and see what kind of reasoning they give. Nothing against Alan but this is the trend right now....leave and go to red states. Hear it from everyone. I think the question really should be, "what is holding you to where ever you happen to be and can you surrender all those things to be able to hear where God might be leading you?" Sometimes we need to surrender all these things one by one by truly trusting in our Lord and Savior.
@@joeadrian2860 what if God is leading people away from Blue States and into red states? There's plenty of unbelievers in red States as well as blue. Just because it's more hostile doesn't mean it's more godly to be there. Let me ask you, do you have a family? Do you have small children and a wife? Because I'm from California and I'm never moving back. I've lived in Kentucky for 10 years and covid-19 nail in the coffin for me ever to move back. It's nearly impossible to live there or own anything or drive a car alone with the taxes of sales and income and many other things its Draconian and insane. So out of sheer responsibility for providing for your family it makes more sense to be in a place where your dollar goes further. And you don't support a state or local government that seeks to murder babies or ruin family, or indoctrinate children with your tax dollars. Of course the federal level also use the money to do unspeakable things, but at the end of the day we need to be responsible for our we are and good stewards.
I've been subscribed to the Pipe Cottage for a good while. Alan is absolutely right that doing the Lord's will does not mean smooth sailing. One of my professors in seminary said that too many people run through open windows too fast and they forget that the Devil can open a window too. Wisdom is not in taking a road because it's easy or difficult, but in discerning spirits from God versus spirits from the Devil.
There's a lady who flies a "Don't Tread on Me" flag here at a church in California. - She's also a legacy family member of a founding member of a local christian university.
Very enlightening. Of course I’ve heard of people moving from Red to Blue as they become more educated and wealthy, but it never occurred to me that people were freely choosing to move from Blue to Red. thank you so much for this unique perspective!
Wow, I’ve been thinking of moving to Appalachia for years now. My hubby won’t go for it, But that’s where my roots lie, and my dreams live. If I could,‘I’d go to SW VA. Now I’m in Northern VA, been here 35+ years. Wish I could “escape.”
I will definitely start looking out for Alan's content, btw, I'm from Eastern KY and everything he said about it is true, I live in NC now but I still miss it sometimes
Enjoyed the conversation. Relaxing. Now I think Church of God would frown on tobacco in any form. However... I have thought not long ago what it would be like to smoke a pipe. I wonder what triggered the change... ok... over to his youtube channel.
I understand the desire to participate in the Great Sort and flee liberal states but if we don't turn to defend what we have now, when will we? I get conservative Californians fleeing to red states, but if the most conservative all end up congregating in the back woods it will essentially hand over the entire national level of politics over. And logically speaking, we all can't move into the woods of Eastern Kentucky and buy tons of acreage. We as conservatives need to be able to lock-down the rural areas as well as come up with a robust urban political-machine to defend our interests nationally. Like it or not, our nation is ruled from cities, to abandon cities is to give the nation over completely to the regressives.
I want to start smoking a pipe, but I would prefer it if someone would just tell me what I should purchase to get started. Just give me a push in the right direction
Lots of videos on here on how to get started. All you need is a cheap corncob pipe, a lighter, and tamper, and tobacco. Search how to load a pipe and they’ll walk ya through all of it. It’s very relaxing
It seems somewhat strange that he is all for National Forests. I’m not saying that they are all wrong, but to have that much land tied up in government ownership hurts people who make a living off the land or who would like to. Obviously he has another source of income but many who live there probably don’t. We have the same situation in AZ and there are definitely downsides to that much government ownership.
Most individual land owners do not use their property for income east of the Mississippi River because of how thick forests are. Clearing land is hard work and requires very expensive machinery. People who do that it is because a farm was inherited and grew up learning at a young age how to grow money. Allen said so himself that he wants to mostly leave his land in a natural state. As do I with the 100 acres I own in east TN.
Living in such a rural area sounds like a dream, but the often the long commute to work in a city is someone's too much of a sacrifice in time with the family.
It's great to have a wider range of content on the channel, but I found Alan Harrelson unconvincing. If he can afford to own a large amount of land without trying to make a living from it, good luck to him, but I don't believe that has much to do with the American agrarian tradition, or provides a very useful example for most young men wondering how to live.
the Washington Monument is over 200 feet taller than the Jefferson Davis monument, Mr. Anti Woke history professor needs to do a little research before making a claim like that
why does he delete any comment that isn't in praise of him? I commented that many people have an issue with him because he is new to pipe smoking and perhaps he shouldn't be giving advice on pipe smoking when most of his knowledge isn't correct. He deletes it. Be wary of this person, he smells of charlatanism
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Alan’s channel is great. Love his insights.
What a excellent conversation. As a man, in my seventies, who grew up in the South West, but now live in Southern Mississippi, these points, all strike a chord.
Thank you Jon & Alan for the wonderful conversation, as I enjoyed my Toro cigar. Blessings.
@thepipecottage and Alan are awesome!!!!
Gentlemen, what a great video. Most enjoyable and educational. Thank you both
This guy is based. 100% ahead of the curve too.
Alan has such a wonderful southern cadence. I've been watching his pipe and "gentleman philosophy" videos for awhile now.
Nice to unexpectedly see "worlds colliding" here on Conversations that Matter.
Oh, man - you KNOW I'm 'down with' *so much* of what you men are discussing, especially the land, and the heritage, and the campfire...
Excellent interview with Mr. Harrelson, Jon! It is refreshing to hear the old, classic Southern accent spoken so well, redolent with the rhythms and cadences of the Tidewater and the Deep South. While my kin here in Tennessee speak with either the accent of Greater Appalachia or something akin to Mr. Harrelson's (My mother's side of the family originally came here from old Virginia and North Carolina back in the late 18th/early 19th century), many young folks, either due to apathy or too much exposure to pop culture, sound like some version of Valley Guys or Girls!
That said, I believe y'all are right about the divide being primarily a spiritual one, even if many are unaware of it. Still, I have grown utterly sick and tired of those in the church who argue that any love of family, home, or heritage, is well nigh - if not actually - a form of idolatry. The rootlessness they encourage, whether intended or not, has had deep and lasting effects on what passes for American "culture", and the very idea of family and community they ostensibly want to strengthen through their (truncated) Gospel. In fact, when I hear that now-buzzword, "community", from them, I can't help but contrast it with the forms of genuine community I saw in my family's home county, and, while imperfect, indicate a greater understanding of it in my people's blood and bones, than these so-called experts on church planting and community building in the church now.
Chesterton said, " I find no contradiction between a pipe of tobacco, a pint of good ale, and the cross." At least, that is the gist.
Alan thank you for introducing me to Jon's channel. I answered that question for my family as I wanted the Generations that follow to have a legacy of Land Stewardship. I will be enjoying 5 Generations together on our land this weekend. Yes, several Generations will be representing your Pipe Cottage Social at JM Boswell's Saturday.
BTW I am a born and raised Yankee that greatly appreciates the rural conservative Christian lifestyle.
So many of the things I like and admire about America seem to be disappearing by the day. It’s losing its spirit and character and becoming a bland, generic mess shaped by corporations and foolish ideas. You can say the same about most of Europe too. God bless Alan and those like him for upholding traditional thoughts, ideas and things that really matter and mean something.
God has always demanded we fight for what we love.
Very good video-----loved it-----worth the time to watch and listen.
I could listen to him talk all day.
I've only heard people on screen (movies/tv) talk like him! Made me realize how North I am. 😂
@@phannybrce I'm from a small town in Central Alabama, and nobody, and I mean nobody, under the age of 70 talks with this sort of accent. And you're right, he actually sounds like an actor attempting to play a role; however, I suppose it's legit. Fascinating. His PipeCottage channel is really good. Highly recommend.
His accent is real and lifelong.
Thank you for the video.
Great conversation!
I'd like to know how he approached his move in regard to a local church. I've looked a fair amount into buying land and moving but one major downside would be leaving a very good church to go somewhere with very few options, which may or may not be solid. It also usually means being further from the church, which limits the involvement in things that aren't on Sundays (i.e. we have Wednesday church, small group meetings, men's morning Bible study, etc.)
This is a reasonable thought. The smaller counties here have A LOT of churches, but not a lot of churches to which we would be led. It took a ton of research, prayer, and patience. Definitely a good idea to look at that before a big move, especially if you are not looking to SBC, which is the lion-share around here.
He converted to Roman Catholicism so it likely wasn't difficult for him to find a place to worship.
I love this man's accent!
Also Kentucky is the best southern state. I used to live in Louisville a couple years ago before I took a pastoral position in south west KY. Town is 8000 people. There's problems but a lot of pros too.
I hope to get some land in Kentucky too though I don't know if it's going to be over 200 acres.
Anyway this was a great show thanks again Jon
Western KY here too! I love living here. I'm even a public school teacher!
@@wiggydebates3944 right on!
What county are you in? We're in Grayson
Honestly, the accent demotes him almost as much as the Boston accent gives the impression of being backward and uneducated....and then I see the Dr. after his name and it blows my prejudice away. But also honestly, listening him leaving the land as is as well as being able to move into no mans land is telling. Not everyone can simply up and move where ever they want. Why don't you talk to someone who can't move at a moments notice who has nothing to fall back on and see what kind of reasoning they give. Nothing against Alan but this is the trend right now....leave and go to red states. Hear it from everyone. I think the question really should be, "what is holding you to where ever you happen to be and can you surrender all those things to be able to hear where God might be leading you?" Sometimes we need to surrender all these things one by one by truly trusting in our Lord and Savior.
@@joeadrian2860 what if God is leading people away from Blue States and into red states? There's plenty of unbelievers in red States as well as blue. Just because it's more hostile doesn't mean it's more godly to be there.
Let me ask you, do you have a family? Do you have small children and a wife? Because I'm from California and I'm never moving back. I've lived in Kentucky for 10 years and covid-19 nail in the coffin for me ever to move back. It's nearly impossible to live there or own anything or drive a car alone with the taxes of sales and income and many other things its Draconian and insane.
So out of sheer responsibility for providing for your family it makes more sense to be in a place where your dollar goes further. And you don't support a state or local government that seeks to murder babies or ruin family, or indoctrinate children with your tax dollars. Of course the federal level also use the money to do unspeakable things, but at the end of the day we need to be responsible for our we are and good stewards.
@@RTHenry83 McCracken!
Really like the new intro music.
I've been subscribed to the Pipe Cottage for a good while. Alan is absolutely right that doing the Lord's will does not mean smooth sailing. One of my professors in seminary said that too many people run through open windows too fast and they forget that the Devil can open a window too. Wisdom is not in taking a road because it's easy or difficult, but in discerning spirits from God versus spirits from the Devil.
There's a lady who flies a "Don't Tread on Me" flag here at a church in California. - She's also a legacy family member of a founding member of a local christian university.
Very enlightening. Of course I’ve heard of people moving from Red to Blue as they become more educated and wealthy, but it never occurred to me that people were freely choosing to move from Blue to Red.
thank you so much for this unique perspective!
Such a great conversation. So much truth.
Wow, I’ve been thinking of moving to Appalachia for years now. My hubby won’t go for it,
But that’s where my roots lie, and my dreams live. If I could,‘I’d go to SW VA. Now I’m in Northern VA, been here 35+ years. Wish I could “escape.”
Respect for Dr. Alan Harrelson brought me to your channel. I've enjoyed the conversation. I'll check out your other content, as well.
ok.... I really want to talk like this guy now
I will definitely start looking out for Alan's content, btw, I'm from Eastern KY and everything he said about it is true, I live in NC now but I still miss it sometimes
Enjoyed the conversation. Relaxing.
Now I think Church of God would frown on tobacco in any form. However... I have thought not long ago what it would be like to smoke a pipe. I wonder what triggered the change... ok... over to his youtube channel.
I understand the desire to participate in the Great Sort and flee liberal states but if we don't turn to defend what we have now, when will we? I get conservative Californians fleeing to red states, but if the most conservative all end up congregating in the back woods it will essentially hand over the entire national level of politics over. And logically speaking, we all can't move into the woods of Eastern Kentucky and buy tons of acreage. We as conservatives need to be able to lock-down the rural areas as well as come up with a robust urban political-machine to defend our interests nationally. Like it or not, our nation is ruled from cities, to abandon cities is to give the nation over completely to the regressives.
I just rode up through these areas on my way to Cedarville University. There were so many ghost towns.
Is escapism ever consistent with the Gospel amd the great comission?
I want to start smoking a pipe, but I would prefer it if someone would just tell me what I should purchase to get started. Just give me a push in the right direction
Lots of videos on here on how to get started. All you need is a cheap corncob pipe, a lighter, and tamper, and tobacco. Search how to load a pipe and they’ll walk ya through all of it. It’s very relaxing
@@kalebbooher8092 yeah, I got that. I was hoping for more specific instruction. Like "just buy this kit, here's the Amazon link"
It seems somewhat strange that he is all for National Forests. I’m not saying that they are all wrong, but to have that much land tied up in government ownership hurts people who make a living off the land or who would like to. Obviously he has another source of income but many who live there probably don’t. We have the same situation in AZ and there are definitely downsides to that much government ownership.
Most individual land owners do not use their property for income east of the Mississippi River because of how thick forests are. Clearing land is hard work and requires very expensive machinery. People who do that it is because a farm was inherited and grew up learning at a young age how to grow money. Allen said so himself that he wants to mostly leave his land in a natural state. As do I with the 100 acres I own in east TN.
If you could get John Weaver it might be a fascinating conversation.
By the way, I saw the Jefferson Davis monument in Kentucky but thought it was 60% as high as the one in DC. It's near Clarksville Tennessee.
He's right~ Louisville is awful!! The rest of KY is great
Living in such a rural area sounds like a dream, but the often the long commute to work in a city is someone's too much of a sacrifice in time with the family.
You don’t need nor want all the land, just the land next to yours.
Pray for Allan, in his latest video he says he is converting to Roman Catholicism.
Yes he is. I am so happy for him and his family.
@@jimbarnes8706 sorry to hear that. As reformed baptists we do not affirm Roman Catholicism as orthodox.
It's great to have a wider range of content on the channel, but I found Alan Harrelson unconvincing. If he can afford to own a large amount of land without trying to make a living from it, good luck to him, but I don't believe that has much to do with the American agrarian tradition, or provides a very useful example for most young men wondering how to live.
Come on dude you get nicotine with pipe smoke...maybe not as much. Spurgeon smoked cigars.
So we accept King James’ Bible, but not his *Counterblaste to Tobacco?* Please explain.
the Washington Monument is over 200 feet taller than the Jefferson Davis monument, Mr. Anti Woke history professor needs to do a little research before making a claim like that
why does he delete any comment that isn't in praise of him? I commented that many people have an issue with him because he is new to pipe smoking and perhaps he shouldn't be giving advice on pipe smoking when most of his knowledge isn't correct. He deletes it. Be wary of this person, he smells of charlatanism
THIS= en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Benedict_Option
Not that.