Even though he’s one of the most quoted people in history, he still takes the time to reply to meager-ole-me’s emails. Top-notch human being right there.
Sorry there are no answers to climate change and NTHE. There are no technologies to stop capitalism destroying the ice caps,; ocean thermohaline currents; deforestation; industrial agriculture/ cattle/ pigs/ etc. Pesticides killing insects, birds, aquatic and soil biota; intense weather/ hurricanes and jet stream distortion. There is only one problem that technology may help: reduce human population to a sustainable 1 billion (Lovelock). But they will need to move to another planet before the 450 nuclear power plants melt down and radiation turns Earth into Mars after the atmosphere is stripped by radiation more than the a Sun.
Written by a true Chomsky-chump! Their IQ might be greater than a Trump-chump's but this doesn't help since Chomsky's mystifications paralyze the higher IQ types even more effectively.
@Michael Anthony I think Noam would say that if Truthers put half the effort into reviving the peace movement that they put into discussing how the towers came down, we just might be able to avert our destruction.
@Michael Anthony Hey, Mike. Have you written to your House Representative demanding action in support of NYC first responders who attended the scene on 9/11, and who now have to beg Congress for aid? It might be a much more meaningful use of your time...
Richard Sleep They can. They do. We need to have courage. We need to take up the work of discussing. I've spent too much of my life admiring the opponents of power and not enough time doing as they've done. Chomsky is 90. This is our job now.
"You were for Hillary at that time" "That's not for Hillary, that's against Trump. That's something quite different she was awful" Chomsky is smart enough to see how Bernie got screwed out of the nomination by Clinton.
I like Noam, but he undercuts his credibility when he says things like 40% of immigrants are Asian. Yeh...legal immigrants maybe, but he has to know he's conflating 2 separate issues. Maybe he looks around his neighborhood and sees a bunch of Asians, but I'm a thousand miles from any border and my neighborhood has easily turned 40% Mexican from less than 5% twenty years ago. Houses crammed full. And street looks like a car lot. Not hating on them, but once they're here their only options are working illegally, collecting welfare illegally, or other crime. If we're going to open the border fine, but let's not lie about the situation in the meantime.
It only appears this way due to the MSM and the dullness of the Western public. If Chomsky were truly one of the great men on this planet, mankind would be doomed.
We're so lucky to have Noam Chomsky videos. His knowledge and wisdom help to overcome the madness and stupidity of our time. Eddie Evans - Climate Decetion Network
He needs to be taught about in every school. Most Americans would rather subscribe and watch a silly channel like Paul Logan's. The more educated and smart a person on youtube is, the less views they get. This is why education needs to be forced onto young people.
Noam isn't able to change ONE thing about our doom. As he said J.P Morgan etc are investing in Fossil fuels etc KNOWING full well the realities. He is just talking to the converted and pointing at the cliff we are all going over.
Agreed. I have problems debating people who advocate market based solutions. "Give them money" and shut the door ethic/policy. As it rationalizes the purpose of life is to own things and earn more, more! They scoff and claim the alternative is irresponsible and impossible (because the economy, cash flow is the importance for them, not life itself). I find myself defending political parties which is a pointless exercise. Chomsky for me is the big C we're missing. Critical thinking. I would love to see a public debate between Chomsky and the individuals within corporate bodies.
Why do we never see Noam on bigger news platforms? He isn't polarizing enough for any major media corporation. He throws an "intellectual wrench" in any propaganda machine he comes across. True intelligence acknowledges nuance and complexity. Mainstream media never has time for that.
I'm sure there are others out there who just haven't been able to get the exposure Naom has. He has a privileged background which has helped him become prominent.
Noam is not alone, there are others such as Chris Hedges. You can find several interviews, lectures and debates. He provides an incredible perspective on how we reached this point and where we are headed.
Sure, thank you for that , Hedges is another admirable thinker , if you have others in mind, please list them, I like to learn about these critical controversialist figures
What we call Capitalism (as it exists today) has swallowed democracy, particularly in the United States. Democracy gets lip service, capitalism, the control of capital ultimately determines almost everything today. When it comes to corporations, taxes should almost be considered royalties for the initial government investment. And since the wealthy benefited, greatly, it's a good reason to tax them at higher levels.
Collusion between government & capitalists is fascism. In Germany, it was government control of industry. In today's Neo-liberal global economies, it is capitalists' capture of government: inverted (fascist) totalitarianism, per Sheldon Wolin.
Unfortunately, were you to have a municipal, state or federal government that would do that, they would quickly be bludgeoned by the bond rating agencies on Wall Street. "Go ahead and raise taxes-your credit won't be worth shit" is the extortion line they would use. This is exactly what happened in my home province of Ontario in the early 1990's after we elected a social democratic provincial government. Halfway through their mandate they had to please their real masters (Moody's, who had dropped the province's credit rating) by slashing social spending and civil service wages, and over-riding collective agreements with legislation. Needless to say, they weren't re-elected. A cautionary tale for US "socialists". The serpent must be defanged or it can still bite.
Oh that is just adorable, The "initial government investment" weren't even feasible without the additional latter investment. And of course, the government investment all stemmed from independent scientist doing their own research in the 1800s. So your logic falls on itself. Chomsky chump just want to steal what's not theirs by denying credit where it is due. If you think the government can invent the Iphone, that's adorable, they can't even invent a marketable World Wide Web, the concept is not even theirs, it's thought of by independent college professors. When do these people get their royalties?
I believe Goebbels would envy the US propaganda system , it is a corporate fascism that doesn't rely on being upfront in the eyes of the public dictating policies openly but works in the background , commanding politicians to do the work for them. And since u vote for them they are legit, what's more "u" voted for them, its quite clever , a case of being a coward that works much better. Since i live in Greece , about Varoufakis and especially the party that he became somewhat famous with as minister of economics, it's a joke. It's naive to think ppl like him can make a difference. Most civilians want democratic proceedings and transparency but then can't do much against the technocrats and the banking system at this point. Plus, he had nothing to negotiate with and he just put the local banks under capital control , shortly after everybody moved their money out of the country. Sure it was a flex by Europe's banking system but he also had it coming and that reckless leftist behaviour doesn't do anyone any good. So... if they gave Gorbachev a Nobel prize they should something to Varoufakis too , maybe an oscar. Of course the media was against him by telling that "Varoufakis went on to teach Eurogroup about Democrarcy & Greek philosophy" in a form of mild sarcasm and self-contradiction because we all know we like "democracy". Even Obama was saying that going off shore to avoid taxes "isn't illegal" , well u r the government make it illegal only he doesn't have the power to do that by himself along with his government. It shows the US government is actually already weak but they preach in the press it must be weaker. Right wing in Europe has risen because of left-liberal policies in regard to immigration, Sweden is target country for muslim immigrants that do not want to adapt to the country they live in but want to take advantage (or rather abuse) of the high goverment subsidies. Sweden afaik is highly socialist country so it's hard to believe ppl are suddenly feeling left out.
Jeff Bezos explained his success just like Chomsky does here. Everything that Amazon needed was already there and nothing new had to be invented but has not really been grateful for the spendings in the public sector making this possible. Maybe it should be. Chomsky has such an interesting perspective on things.
David Mock But Chomsky’s point is that it was government spending that created the ingredients for the profitable private business, and so it’s a special form of capitalism that’s at work, not pure capitalism. Picking some winning technology certainly takes skill, and considerable investment, but is nothing like the same as 30 years of funding a research program.
The word is apocalyptic. It isn't done by evil men but by willfully ignorant leaders along with a lazy population. Everyone knows that this world would be a better place if everyone helped their neighbor, but we don't. That would require work that does not give immediate gain. Perhaps we as a species will survive and be able to look back at this period of history and shudder at the abyss we nearly fell into. Or not.
Agreed. I've seen in some scenarios that helping others could actually save money - and so the elite can have their greed angle to it. The laziness from what I understand, stems from our primate brains evolved to worry about the now, though there are probably so many other factors. I remember listening some financial professor, explaining how early humans adapted to think about surviving day to day, to their immediate surrounding. Cavemen, of course, didn't need to save for retirement, or anything in the future. Out of sight out of mind. It looks like as a whole we still have that trait.
@Sui Meing Wong it's darwinian evolution the "one percent" are like a pack of wolves who are protecting their class by making us believe that the economy is doing well because Wall Street is doing well.
OP reming me of evangelicals bragging about charity they do for homeless disabled veterans, while voting for more war to create more misery strife and homeless broken people. Guess that makes you feel good about yourself, it helps you avoid real problems. In europe, welfare is what we all collectively create to lift up who are in a crisis. It's the same as helping your neighbour, just in an organized and even way that reaches everyone. The laziness myth is pure conservative rich man propaganda to pit people against one another - even when you handle money to people for free like they did in finland, people continue to work, because that's how people are, work defines us and gives us meaning. As for dipshit libertarians, they are nothing but greedy selfish sociopaths who glorify money, which isn't even a real thing, it's literally a number that the IMF inputs into a computer and sends to the bank to lend to people at a profit. Lucky for all of us, they are
Sort of. But the way he glosses over whites caring about their ethic group bugs me. Could the rise of the right not be largely due to simply not wanting your group to die off? Does it have to be "xenophobia".
John NoNameGibbon totally agree. But in his defense, they would roast him because that is an unpopular subject to back. Every race has a right to be proud of their race without backlash, including whites. The leftist brain baffles me🤷🏽♀️
They confuse too many things. I agree with Chomsky on most things. I read all of his sources and they check out. But he just hand-waves whites away. That's obnoxious. He fails to mention that white Americans are also against legal Asian immigration. More than even Mexican migration, which is more sympathetic.
I think Noam Chomsky would agree with me that no group should feel 'proud' of their race. Race is such an insignificant factor and pride is a sin... having pride in your race is basically taking credit for things you had nothing to do with...
Race is a reality, though. It's a real thing people see and make decisions on all the time. It's instinctual. Beauty standards alone are largely racial. Protecting your group is also the only real world solution to collectivizing. You can ignore race as much as you want, but if it ends in Mexico being ruled by a white class at the top or Peru by a group of Japanese elites, you're a dope. Ignoring it is really, really silly in my opinion.
Saw him speak in Guelph Ontario back in the late 90's...Haven't seen the world the same way since. I intuitively knew that the world I was maturing into was founded on lies and obfuscation, anti citizen and anti life based predatory and parasite fostering policies but hearing him speak brought it all together for me. In the last two decades most of what he has said has come to pass and now we all increasingly (mostly unknowingly it seems) live in a corporatist right wing dystopia that puts profit over life at every single opportunity and it doesnt seem to matter what colour tie the talking heads they let us choose from is wearing as they are all on the same team. A good man.
He is absolutely right that we don't currently have free-market capitalism. We have government-protected, government-subsidized monopolies and oligarchies. The good news is the vast majority of the most ardent free-market capitalists agree with that premise and believe it is a major problem. Adam Smith specifically explains that that is not free-market capitalism. The difference is that free-market capitalists believe the solution to this problem is to actually implement free-market competition. Also, it's interesting that he brings up that most people believe we should do less foreign aid, but then when asked how much we should pay most say more than what we are actually spending now. That is absolutely true. However, it is also equally true for the other thing he is discussing. Most people believe the rich should pay more of the total taxes, but when you ask them what percent of the taxes the rich should pay most people say a percentage that is actually lower than what they pay now.
Yes indeed. It's very difficult for capitalism as in FREE MARKET capitalism to function under whatever we exist under now (global fascism? global collaborationism? neoliberalism? McWorld?). It's one of the great ironies. The monopolies and the nation-states have formed these mutually strengthening agreements behind our backs, and this crushes anyone who wants to be competitive in the market OR in politics. It's like living in a jar.
He is a broken Marxist, Leninist, Maoist, Stalinist a hole. 50 years of calling for the end of capitalism and the corporations. Ignoring mountains of economic and political facts that utterly shit on every word this stupid SOB ever said or thinks ! 150 million human beings we're murdered in peacetime (forced labor, starvation and disease) by ass holes who preache(d) exactly what Chomsky the supreme left wing bomb throwing prick sells to morons for decades !
@@lorenzomcnally6629 , your comment is nothing but ad hominem and abstraction. Calling for the end of a corrupt system is what rational people with integrity do. In contrast, favoring a corrupt system suggest you may be a beneficiary of said corruption. No conflict of interest there, eh? .~
Not to be morbid or pessimistic, but I don't know what we'll do when we lose Chomsky. He's one of our last anchors to reality and I doubt TH-cam videos will be enough when he's gone. I can't think of a single worthy successor.
Just had the same thought. After spending some time reading french postmodernist authors (yuck!), Chomsky is such a relief and down to earth man. Hope he will stay with us for a long time!
Capitalism is a system which has corporations and forms of exploitation. Slavery was a form of capitalism or a part of capitalism. even to day with privative prisons and new and odd kinds of slavery in the capitalist system.
Slavery was capitalism to slave masters, but their slaves were forced to live in a socialist economy. That socialist economy slaves were forced to exist in made capitalist profitable. Every socialist nation has an elite ruling class that are exempted from the socialist rules. The proletariat have no voice or authority over his present or future. He who controls the past, controls the present, he who controls the present controls the future. Voting in a socialist government will be the last act freedom you will ever commit.
No you do not realize what the capitalist have done. Let see banana company killing people in south American such as banana republics. you live in a fantasy world.@BITCOIN BTC added the Nazi were a pet for corporate America.
Capitalism has no future. RBE is the future. Alternative economic systems: - a Resource Based Economy (RBE) - Ubuntu Contributionism - a Freedom Economy
I don't know anything about the alternatives you propose, but I do agree with you that capitalism, at least our modern conception of it, is indeed dying.
Free Capitalism (or anarcho capitalism) would essentially hand over all power to the rich. There's so many problems and counterarguments that it's like arguing that allowing people to beat their kids whenever they want will result in less kid beating. It's idotic.
The present battle between populism and globalization will dictate the future path of capitalism. The stakes are higher than many people believe. In the past a simple reversion back to protectionism wouldn't have been a big deal - a tariff on steel, a subsidy to auto etc - might've passed with little controversy. However, free-trade has never gone this far before. The size of the global economy is unprecedented - meaning a relatively large international bourgeois has formed, independent of nations. The so called Davos Class. From a Marxist stand-point, I think globalization will triumph, more free trade, more immigration, more global governance is the future - the return to nationalism will be short-lived. Why? Because capitalism needs profits, the bigger the market, the greater the profits - which means capitalism will always err toward globalization. And maybe capital in that sense is repeating its initial growth within Britain, France, Holland etc but this time on a global scale. It will batter down the nation state as it did the old feudal estate with its bonded labour and age-old prejudices and customs. As Marx tells us, capital is both at the same time a destructive and progressive force. But the progress will only be significant, if a global class consciousness emerges as the nation state dissolves.
Classical economics says that the behavior of capitalists in markets is governed by rational self interest, and market systems reflect these choices in aggregate and are therefore the ideal means of determining economic relations. The critique of classical economics says no, the behavior of capitalists is strongly determined by the system, that capitalists are compelled by certain "laws" of capital to make certain choices whether they want to or not, even though the result is often self destruction or even destruction of the system itself. Which viewpoint seems more tenable in light of the behavior Chomsky discusses here, of the most powerful capitalists in world history pursuing an intensification of processes that they know, that they don't even bother denying, are leading to the destruction of themselves, their system, and the future of humanity? As Chomsky says, this behavior is beyond any previous example of "evil." No free market theory of enlightened self interest can possibly explain it. It seems clear that the critics were right all along: the system is in charge. It isn't the capitalist who decides. It's capital. A *thing* is currently in charge of human destiny.
Thank you, Professor, for ascending so many tremendous opportunities, often policies offered by taking behaviors of these different years in education. You are an inspiration and a lesson for sure.
A few interesting facts when he mentions the swedish situation are: 1. We have for 15 years had an immigration per year in excess of 1% of our total population. More than the usa had even in the 19th century. 2. We have among the highest tax pressures in the world, so even when we move to the right we remain to the left of all other democracies. 3. In Sweden we generally do not gather statistics regarding ethnicity and crime but two days ago a list of the 32 most prominent gang leaders in our capital was published. One of them was half swedish, all others were either born abroad or born to two non-swedish parents. 4. The gang violence in Sweden has escalated horribly and last year the amount of bomb detonations in Sweden surpassed all non-warring nations. 5. Even our far-right parties regard it as natural to have free health care and education for all. The main conflict is on whether maximum income tax should be something like 60% or 50%. On top of 25% sales tax, etc...
I heard with my own ears Jamie Diamond say, “we will have to go to our bunkers( they have amazing bunkers) and when itself over come out and get the world back on track “
We won't have Chomsky forever. If you admire him, do as he's done. He shows how to speak about policy in plain language, in terms of universal human rights, international law, and norms of human conduct-- the broadest notions of fair play, which still come naturally to human beings, despite enormous official efforts to rid the population of such ideas. And now, policy questions have come down to an even more basic and urgent issue that almost anyone grasps intuitively, which is the prospect of human survival. We can spend our lives as he has, discussing these things in these terms whenever we have a chance, with sincerity and courage, not because it's fun or materially rewarding, but because conscience demands it.
13:34 what the heck , He exactly predicted what would turn out to be the severe floods in history of our civilization, i experienced those floods, my home was destroyed by constant rain my family moved to other areas our whol cattles died , it was nothing short of a hell , I hope nobody witness what we witnessed two years ago ... But this guy has chosen to always speak the truth , he doesn't care about personal remarks he gets the threats the insults he gets , I hope he gets well soon ..
Excellent analysis by Noam as usual. He is doing this job "ever since". There is only one problem with his analytic thinking approach (which I use myself as well): it cannot address people who cannot think or even refuse to do so, because they do not _think_, instead they _believe_. Actually those are opposite mindsets: Thinking is led by the Question mark, and believe is led by the Exclamation mark. Believers are inherently ignorant to arguments, they see their believe as the one and only argument in itself. Any discussion is futile and just leads to stalemate. Instead there are tons of conspiracy theories ... including the stone age old antisemitism which bores me the most. Apart from all that media rumble, some "smart" people are neither thinkers nor believers, instead they are opportunists who just try to defend their short term opportunities. They do not care about any discussions at all. So, sadly, the intellectual Circle of Influence remains small.
the big problem is that rational thinkers have to confront emotional thinkers. most of the people are ruled by emotion not reson... chomsky said so himself that is why the people should be the bewilderd herde as he would say. they need to be spectators not participants in the political game
I kind of think he'd say that if you can't find reason enough to be scared shitless into taking action over what has happened since 1945, then go back to your Twinkies and milk...just please stay out of the way of those who are trying to do something meaningful.
Man i am from bangladesh and the mean elevation of the country is 3-6 meters,so 70℅ of the country would probably be under water by the end of century , it would create a huge immigrant crisis in the whole world,we have 200 mill people right now,by 2050 it will probably exceed 300 mill
He says evil doesn't capture it, I think it does. I think it sets the bar for what evil is. If we survive, 31st century man will ask "What is evil?" and instead of citing Hitler they'll cite 21st century capitalism.
One problem with the argument referring to immigration and Asians making up 1/3 of the numbers cited. Those are numbers referring to legal immigration. Those numbers avoid, through omission, 'legal immigration' vis a vis "illegal entries" and the numbers there far exceed the disparity Noam spoke of.
He looks sadly so tired & so old, telling truth for so many decades, being always ignored by all TPTB, it's wearing him down, but he remains one of the wisest humans talking about society, economics and governments
It's important to understand where the neoliberal policies stem from, who they serve and why those who push them have so much power and influence. How is wealth generated? What does the employee employer relationship have to do with it? The only way to change society in the long term is to stop the source of the policies.
What's so ironic is this..the owner and operator of the 18 wheeler that hit me got off SCOTT free..no accountability..he continues to stalk me..he has killed 2 more of my friends.but he is under federal protection due to his double dirty dealings in this good ole boy state.
I used to love the generosity, politeness and gentlemanliness of the Americans, exemplified by Ronald Reagan. When I think of modern America and Wall Street, I feel ashamed to be a member of the human race.
Reagan started the whole trickle-down theory that preceded capitalism's run amok period that continues to snowball until this day. He was no hero, more like a zero.
It depends what the taxes are used for mr. Chomsky. Right now, they are used to cater to the rich so there is no NEED to have taxation because it used to give incentives to international corporations. It is corrupt, the system of globalized politics is corrupt.
Even Chomsky can get it wrong, immigration actually does affect some communities adversely, in fact that is a major effect of capitalism. Expressing concern about lslamification is neither rascist or xenophobic, labelling it as such is just a gift to the right. Calling someone rascist for criticising lslam is no different from labelling someone as anti semitifc for criticising Israel, which is what they're doing to Corbyn.
I don't think Chomsky said immigration has no negative effect. He said it is used as a scape goat for big problems that existed even before immigration started.
uair lt's possible to accept the rights proclivity towards scapegoatong, which l do, and acknowledge that some immigration poses an existential threat, especially when it involves the patriarchal fascist death cult of lslam. The left's naivite is always exploited by lslam. Europe is being torn apart by those who can see this inconvenient truth (the post industrial working class) and those that can't - the liberal elite.
I love Noam Chomsky so much.. he is so good at the disillusionment of American exceptionalism, which is the reason we are both failing domestically and hated internationally
It seems to me that within the next 100-200 years at the most we will face a situation where the majority of people (in the developed world at least) will no longer need to work, as automation and AI will replace most jobs. That is an untenable situation under a neoliberal capitalism system where your basic needs are contingent on your ability to work. I can’t pretend to know what changes will be made to the economic system to deal with this, but I know that very significant changes will have to be made, either by parliamentary means or by force.
Very very well put Chomsky. As a Computer Engineer I am very concerned of the Asian influx of talent. The establishment Democratic and Republican parties are global movers of poverty and conduit for wealth to the top hierarchy for the Social Darwinist superiority complex of Euro-politicians and their Asian counterparts. Im sure corporatist along with Trump would not be dismayed as they need Americans to feel out of place in their own country. Why place concern with stagnant wages when you can make enemies of immigrants. Specifically those that might be seen as contributing to the growth of technology. Instead why doesnt corporate america commit to its people already here, who have enough competion with Asian countries.
evil capitalism.. Soviet Union was also a capitalist. Only for a change, there was only one capitalist, the STATE, the rest was it's loyal, underfed, underclothed servant. more like a very ignorant prisoner-slave for most of it's history. Except, of course, a ruling class, useless party officials that were inserting their unprofessional noses into every business, every enterprise, economic and social. and it miserably failed, the old USSR. in fact, it would have failed much sooner if they would not discover Siberian oil in the seventies that thanks to the capitalist markets and capitalist currency kept them afloat another twenty years. the STATE capitalism failed. now, with what Chomsky proposes to replace capitalist system where 6 percent of population has a million dollars and above? i hope not with a ussr-like system where less than tenth of a percent had enough to eat while the rest didn't have most necessities like food, clothing and shelter? what is this magic system that is not that and not the other? Chomsky might say a few smart things here and there, but having no solutions to anything, he should not be viewed as an old all out wise man that he is perceived like now. he really isn't.
Former Republican Speaker of the House John Boehner, who has always railed against marihuana in his long political career, is now a high level executive in a marihuana private company. What do you call this....
Although we progressed technically (mainky through state, as chomsky said) we didn't grow ethically. The traits that made hunanity top of the food chain aren't the ones favoured for evolution and selection: the good guy has no appeal, the intelligent one neither, yet they power the engine that ruthless and idiotic policy makers govern. We are too many, we are poised for destruction. How can we think that a planet made for millions of speices could be monopolised by 7 billion and counting of us, with no consequences. We are animals, but some of us made policies to elevate our conditions, others just bred because they weren't given (nor they researched) a different choice.
"...sooner or later we'll manage to destroy ourselves..." Unfortunately, I don't have much hope that he's wrong. But we gotta fight anyway. Rather go down swinging than take it lying down.
My only complaint against Chomsky is that his calls for people to organize are largely falling on deaf ears. Perhaps that's not a problem with him, but he has been largely ineffective in "boots on the ground" success. Admittedly, his intellectual approach to explaining left-wing perspectives was my entry into this world. My hope is that his passion will carry us into the future.
Really one of the things that has kept him from success in terms of numbers is that he has been denied access to widespread media exposure for an entire lifetime. His ideas are sound. It is up to us to get them out there. They are my ideas and your ideas and his enemies are also the enemies of the people.
People largely aren't exposed to first hand information on anything. They take their views from blurbs in the media. I actually read first hand sources and can see he's largely correct. Though he's wrong on somethings. Like his example about Fins. Yeah, fins have no migration and went right wing. Why? Because they saw Sweden, Chomsky. Duh!
I live in a small rural town in Texas and can't find ANY of Chomsky's books at my local library even though he's written over 100 of them. But I can easily find Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter.
" Boots on the ground" nice metaphor. How would this work be done in terms of military imperialism? How would this work be judged in those terms. Your claim simply isn't true. Sorry. Keep looking please. Chomsky (and many others like him) have energized communities globally for decades. You're accepting the corporatist paradigm for what "success" means and then judging him by it when he's working to teach you ways to do your own analysis on your own terms and then its up to you to work locally to see that bear out. Not sit back and watch. People throughout latinx nations, indigenous groups, communities in Palestine, even Europe and the US are using his work - and not only his - in real ways. It won't be televised.
The majority of the US economy was/is developed in the private sector, not in government labs. Private sector innovation has created technologies that comprise the foundation of most technologies developed in government labs. As usual, Chomsky has things back-assward.
I believe all system are inherently flawed. Ideas are simple, beautiful and impractical. Both pure capitalism and pure socialism are impossible with flawed humans in a material world. However, it's my understanding that, all systems have a fatal flaw, and will allow exceptions to themselves in order to survive. Than, as the situation progresses, the exceptions will begin to mount until there are two paralel systems in open conflict, one representing tradition and other representing the future. After a while the most advanced system will grow enough to suplant the previous one. That evolution doesn't start with a revolution, but it finishes with it. This is why the capitalist revolution against feudalism worked but the socialist revolution against capitalism didn't. The capitalist revolution didn't killed feudalism, but merely declared it dead. The socialist revolution tried to kill a still funcioning system, and failed. When the american revolution cemented capitalism, it's roots were already old and deep. When the russian revolution tried to cement socialism, it's roots were young and fragile. What will probably happend is that, as the flaws in modern capitalism grows, individuals will find a way to fix them by working outside the system. Those people will be like the merchants in feudal times, because the main flaw of feudalism was distribution, witch were solved by comerce. Once these ousiders of capitalism start gaining power, the old capitalist nobility will react, creating conflit. In the places where the situation is allowed to evolve more freely, the old capitalist nobility will become like parasites in the body of a new system. At that point a sucessfull revolution will either remove them or keep them as tokens of tradition with no power, like the current british royal family. That will happend again and again until we are extinct.
Agreed. The truth is all the capitalist countries have considerable degrees of socialism. In other words, social services. Taxes to pay for hospitals and education = socialism. Plus any number of government departments - socialism. Socialist governments on the other hand are recognising the value of the profit motive as a driver of efficiency. However, this can still be changed, with some companies getting employees to take shares in the company. This is not the pure capitalist model, which is more akin to feudalism.
Well said. It's interesting to think about and maybe pick out these shortcomings of capitalism and the methods used to circumvent them. I wouldn't be so bold as to label them or their implications, but I think we may be seeing early hints of this metamorphosis in the near-collapse and mutation of the record industry, all information-based commerce, and intellectual property in general. Something else we're seeing on the horizon, though it may not pan out, is automation removing the last bastion of the human worker: intelligence. There have been waves of automation before as machines were able to compete and surpass people in increasingly complex forms of manual labour, but we've always had a monopoly on jobs involving planning and intelligence. It's easy to see how blue collar work, which comprises a massive chunk of capitalist labour, will be replaced by autonomous cars, manufacturing, service industry automation, and so on. Office work isn't safe either--companies are already looking into replacing middle-management-level employees. If this comes to pass, it's hard to imagine how the current system could cope. There won't be pockets of economic refuge big enough to keep every in work. I'm not saying there will be revolution, but the economy will have to change beyond recognition.
We unfortunately lost Christopher Hitchens who was a beacon of light in this insane world but I'm so glad we still have the great wisdom and intelligence of Noam Chomsky. I hope he will be with us for many many years to come. We need him now more then ever.
19:00 good way to put it..... i had to vote Hillary, but not FOR her, but against Trump. i swear, it felt like eating a whole raw onion.... it really did.
NLRBE is a rational, logical system worth studying and ingesting asap. To study this socially and planetary healthy systems approach meritoriously requires one to set aside much state endorsed schooling indoctrination and political propoganda..which as we all know is quite a difficult prerequisite task.
Advanced economies are not purely Capitalist economies - there is a lot of state intervention. I live in China and it has grown at an astounding rate. It has massive industrial policy. But it's also really, reallly capitalist in many ways - on my block there are hundreds of small mom and pop business. Some are successful, many fail - the churn of empty then occupied shopfronts is continual. Proably several hundred million people will open a business here in the next twenty years that is completely free of state intervention. The better word than capitalism is MARKET economies. There will always be market economies; you could nationalize every industry under a complete dicatorship and in a year markets would spring up. Markets have always been with human civilization and always will.
People need to read Daniel Quinn's BEYOND CIVILIZATION, Jean Liedloff's THE CONTINUUM CONCEPT, and Johann Hari's LOST CONNECTIONS, but probably in the reverse of that order. LC - which Chomsky loved - is what we need to shake off the funk we're in and get out of bed and become able to do anything useful for ourselves (the subtitle is "uncovering the hidden causes of depression," something like that, and it's probably the best such exposé ever yet written). Then CC is about how to raise happy, free, truly loved children in such a way as to not pass the toxic and disabling parts of our culture onto them (The way out of the "deep problem" Chomsky hints at and has a vague view of, but doesn't have a very deep understanding of-he's got a kind of vague sketch and outline, but nothing concrete like you will find from the above authors). CC is probably the best guide ever written for how to raise children to be different than ourselves, and thus arguably the most important book in print in the world. And then BC is probably the best guide in existence for modifying our entire civilizational social structure in a non utopian, realistic way, with a time-tested alternative (tribalism-but one must strip it of all of its negative, propagandistic connotations to understand, and trust me even Noam, to my surprise, does not know how to do that: he was simply raised in an era in which civilizationalism was so automatically and absolutely unquestionable that he simply cannot question it very well (even though he's been one of the best internal critics of civilization of all time, ironically enough), certainly not deeply enough to acknowledge the possible wisdom of tribalism, even though he deeply respects indigenous peoples and their amazing activism around the world! 🤷♂️). That all sounds a little breathless, worshipful, and crazy, but I honestly believe but those three books, taken seriously, could enable us to change the world and save ourselves from our current collective suicide.* *you see from this pov why we need the depression book STAT. But then true change is generational, so you need to know how to do that. But the young already floundered around in the '60, they need a guide this time for how things COULD be, but realistically, without any religion or ideology (admittedly DQ gets a bit spiritual in some of his other books, but BC is very slender, readable, and matter-of-fact). Also so you know of course there are dozens and hundreds of other books and thinkers in all manner of media (such as here!) that would help in such a dramatic civilizational reinvention or cultural turnaround, my point is to reduce things to a very small set representing a plausible starting point. For example one glaring omission from my list is any wisdom directly from the mouths of tribal peoples, whom we recently learned from David Graeber and David Wengrow's THE DAWN OF EVERYTHING** are far, far more sophisticated and self-aware (and less "primitive" and stupid and child-like) than we have tended to think. **which Noam DID appear to actually comprehend, as evidenced by his glowing blurb on the back.
It's a defined term. Just look it up. It more or less means consequences of the running of a business where those consequences are manifest in the public domain outside of the internal running of that business. One attempt to mitigate it is the development of the concept of corporate social responsibility. However, all too often corporate social responsibility is used as an empty but stylish exercise in marketing the image of the corporation as benevolent when it's actual efforts in that regard are largely tokenistic or possibly business as usual.
chomsky says companies can't invest for the long run but my understanding of why the pharma industry can have such high prices is because there are sometimes 10 years of the devellopment and research before they can start selling the medicine, is this not treu or is there another explanation? give me your thoughts
Your tax dollars. Like every other huge corporation the pharma industry gets government money to help them which means once again the cost of development is socialized and the benefits are privatized, and the government WILL bail them out if they fail so they do play for short term profits then when they crash you (the taxpayer) bail them out with your tax money.
Capitalism is merely another tool to dupe the masses suggesting there are numerous forms of economic systems. The reality is "The Power Elite" owns and controls their respective countries. Nothing happens by chance or circumstance with the exception of some diseases in the past.. The direct and indirect control of financial institutions, mineral resources and food supply chain is held as always by the select few. Whether you refer to them as emperors, kings, presidents, rulers etc. means nothing. Chomsky has always been one of many pawns of dissension to give the stupid masses the illusion of government and false hopes. As long as they own the military, financial institutions, universities, real estate and all medical and social services, you fools will never be able to grasp the fact you are all nothing but 'Slaves without iron chains". The highest level that any one dictator can achieve is one that remains anonymous and invisible. As such, you can easily create polarization of the masses to destroy each other, while they remain safe and secure. Historically, Religion and Nationalism have always been the most effective and powerful tools to ensure their wealth and safety. " What fools these mortal be" The savage species known as "Humans" will destroy themselves within the next century. I just hope that once the parasites are extinct, nature with all its beauty and animals will survive, to be rediscovered by a superior alien species.......
Communism is the future. Capitalism, no matter it's form, has no future. Capitalism has been a shotgun shell to the head of humanity. We're going to die unless we reduce the global temperature increase. Two options at this point. Stop the evils of Capitalism or die.
I've often wondered what kind of conversation he might have with John Gray (Straw Dogs, Black Mass, etc.). Noam seems to be point at similar patterns here, similar to Bret Weinstein's transfer frontier concept in places as well.
Here 5 years later and DiEM25 is still active and working towards running in the EU elections now in June. Any and every kind of support is appreciated.
lol You mean me? Nah, I like Noam. I just disagree with his view here. He's about 70% correct. As most people do hate the fake "Free market" system. He ignores ethnicity.
Chomsky is technically wrong to say "we don't have capitalism ; we have state-capitalism". It's true that all modern nation states are operating a mixed state and private ownership model of capitalism but we should reserve the term "state-capitalism" as describing those remaining previous nation-state regimes such as the so-called USSR where the the vast majority of capital owned by the state, with the CP elite - a psuedo capitalist class reaping the benefits - special privileges, high income, dachas on the black sea, caviar, overseas travel, advanced medical care etc. The fact those regimes, past and present chose to smokescreen their fetish form of capitalism with the label "communism". Chomsky should point out that capitalism is the current social system. It would be really helpful for us all to make progress to stick with the materialist conception of history despite it being highly unpopular with the majority of the master class who won't allow it to be discussed let alone taught as a science in schools.
It's also very debatable whether "capitalists" are the sole beneficiaries of government investment in infrastructure and R&D but somehow I doubt that Chomsky would even go there.
Ive known of this guy for a long time, very important. But the bigger issue is what are we going to learn from him and apply it. He identifies the problem, but not the solution. We, in following his lead, need to identify the correcting factors
Sly responses Chomsky. These government research and technologies are not just "handed over" to corporations, they become freely available. Other nations purposely choose which corporation get their developed technology. Yet, I do agree corporations are heavily subsidized.
A piece of fucking sliced white bread! That has nothing to do with my point of showing how Chompsky phrases answers like the fake news. And my proof of that is that government does not choose who it is provided to unlike Say Germany who only provides their research to basically 2 corporations. BTW, your point refutes Chompskys positions on who should pay for research, and as I am a child of Ayn Rand, I am glad u r on my side and not Chompskies
Even though he’s one of the most quoted people in history, he still takes the time to reply to meager-ole-me’s emails. Top-notch human being right there.
Noam used to answer my emails. You are right. He is humble.
He also took the time to reply to me several years ago now when I contacted him through his work email address. He wished me well on my journey.
I wish they would let Noam Chomsky speak in the main stream media. They are so afraid of him they will not even mention his name in the NY Times.
it would be shooting themselves in the foot, or even worse in the head
Can capitalists answer these 3 questions? ---> th-cam.com/video/6xGyKuyGhaE/w-d-xo.html
Sorry there are no answers to climate change and NTHE. There are no technologies to stop capitalism destroying the ice caps,; ocean thermohaline currents; deforestation; industrial agriculture/ cattle/ pigs/ etc. Pesticides killing insects, birds, aquatic and soil biota; intense weather/ hurricanes and jet stream distortion. There is only one problem that technology may help: reduce human population to a sustainable 1 billion (Lovelock). But they will need to move to another planet before the 450 nuclear power plants melt down and radiation turns Earth into Mars after the atmosphere is stripped by radiation more than the a Sun.
All American media is just capitalist propaganda.
Meditating Jesus -Corporate capitalist propaganda.
Noam Chomsky is my #1 living intellectual hero. He is the best.
Written by a true Chomsky-chump! Their IQ might be greater than a Trump-chump's but this doesn't help since Chomsky's mystifications paralyze the higher IQ types even more effectively.
He is what so many of the others (wont mention their names) wish they really were
You should check out Jacque Fresco, Chomsky isy number 2 after him. Fresco is so overlooked it's sad.
He's the most sited in the history of the world, even over Plato and Aristotle.
Glad you didn’t say Joe Rogan
The alt right calls him a fruitcake and a George Soros puppet. I listen to him and everything he says is based on diligent research.
In fairness, the alt-right calls EVERYONE a Soros puppet.
True, I've watched them say it even about Trump. It's amazing how they constantly flip on each other.
@Michael Anthony
I think Noam would say that if Truthers put half the effort into reviving the peace movement that they put into discussing how the towers came down, we just might be able to avert our destruction.
@Michael Anthony
Hey, Mike. Have you written to your House Representative demanding action in support of NYC first responders who attended the scene on 9/11, and who now have to beg Congress for aid? It might be a much more meaningful use of your time...
@Michael Anthony
I see that you firmly believe that it is better to curse the darkness than to light a candle. Good luck on your journey!
I wish more people understood this stuff. Long live Noam and all he stands for.
Richard Sleep They can. They do. We need to have courage. We need to take up the work of discussing. I've spent too much of my life admiring the opponents of power and not enough time doing as they've done. Chomsky is 90. This is our job now.
@@noisepuppet Well said. I'm 66 now but I'm encouraged by the wave of younger people alive to these ideas.
"You were for Hillary at that time"
"That's not for Hillary, that's against Trump. That's something quite different she was awful"
Chomsky is smart enough to see how Bernie got screwed out of the nomination by Clinton.
Based
_"I don't care who does the electing, so long as I can do the nominating"_ - Boss Tweed
trump saw that also so thats not saying much lol
Don’t forget who gave us that information and where those people are today…
Noam Chomsky is one of the great men to live on this planet!
how? best snake oil salesman?
Absolutely
I like Noam, but he undercuts his credibility when he says things like 40% of immigrants are Asian. Yeh...legal immigrants maybe, but he has to know he's conflating 2 separate issues. Maybe he looks around his neighborhood and sees a bunch of Asians, but I'm a thousand miles from any border and my neighborhood has easily turned 40% Mexican from less than 5% twenty years ago. Houses crammed full. And street looks like a car lot. Not hating on them, but once they're here their only options are working illegally, collecting welfare illegally, or other crime. If we're going to open the border fine, but let's not lie about the situation in the meantime.
It only appears this way due to the MSM and the dullness of the Western public. If Chomsky were truly one of the great men on this planet, mankind would be doomed.
We're so lucky to have Noam Chomsky videos. His knowledge and wisdom help to overcome the madness and stupidity of our time. Eddie Evans - Climate Decetion Network
He needs to be taught about in every school. Most Americans would rather subscribe and watch a silly channel like Paul Logan's. The more educated and smart a person on youtube is, the less views they get. This is why education needs to be forced onto young people.
Noam isn't able to change ONE thing about our doom. As he said J.P Morgan etc are investing in Fossil fuels etc KNOWING full well the realities. He is just talking to the converted and pointing at the cliff we are all going over.
It's so sad that the vast majority of population is brainwashed by mainstream media
Did you play in the 1991 Rugby World Cup for Canada, or is that a different Eddie Evans?
Agreed. I have problems debating people who advocate market based solutions. "Give them money" and shut the door ethic/policy. As it rationalizes the purpose of life is to own things and earn more, more! They scoff and claim the alternative is irresponsible and impossible (because the economy, cash flow is the importance for them, not life itself). I find myself defending political parties which is a pointless exercise. Chomsky for me is the big C we're missing. Critical thinking. I would love to see a public debate between Chomsky and the individuals within corporate bodies.
Why do we never see Noam on bigger news platforms? He isn't polarizing enough for any major media corporation. He throws an "intellectual wrench" in any propaganda machine he comes across. True intelligence acknowledges nuance and complexity. Mainstream media never has time for that.
Dude be quiet. You suck.
Mainstream media... Why would they throw a wrench in their own propaganda?
exactly
He challenges private corporate ownership and power. Why in the hell would corporate media want him on? Lol
Thank you Noam. Love from Scotland ✊
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Best Wishes from Hogtown, Florida.
God, give this man many , many more years of such a bright mind. We need more like him.
This man is the last prophet of rationality
I'm sure there are others out there who just haven't been able to get the exposure Naom has. He has a privileged background which has helped him become prominent.
Noam is not alone, there are others such as Chris Hedges. You can find several interviews, lectures and debates. He provides an incredible perspective on how we reached this point and where we are headed.
"prophet of rationality"? Find the contradiction ! ;)
It's a metaphor ace
Sure, thank you for that , Hedges is another admirable thinker , if you have others in mind, please list them, I like to learn about these critical controversialist figures
What we call Capitalism (as it exists today) has swallowed democracy, particularly in the United States. Democracy gets lip service, capitalism, the control of capital ultimately determines almost everything today.
When it comes to corporations, taxes should almost be considered royalties for the initial government investment. And since the wealthy benefited, greatly, it's a good reason to tax them at higher levels.
Collusion between government & capitalists is fascism. In Germany, it was government control of industry. In today's Neo-liberal global economies, it is capitalists' capture of government: inverted (fascist) totalitarianism, per Sheldon Wolin.
Unfortunately, were you to have a municipal, state or federal government that would do that, they would quickly be bludgeoned by the bond rating agencies on Wall Street. "Go ahead and raise taxes-your credit won't be worth shit" is the extortion line they would use. This is exactly what happened in my home province of Ontario in the early 1990's after we elected a social democratic provincial government. Halfway through their mandate they had to please their real masters (Moody's, who had dropped the province's credit rating) by slashing social spending and civil service wages, and over-riding collective agreements with legislation. Needless to say, they weren't re-elected. A cautionary tale for US "socialists". The serpent must be defanged or it can still bite.
@@Grimenoughtomaketherobotcry Great anecdotal lead there, thanks for sharing that insight.
Oh that is just adorable, The "initial government investment" weren't even feasible without the additional latter investment.
And of course, the government investment all stemmed from independent scientist doing their own research in the 1800s. So your logic falls on itself.
Chomsky chump just want to steal what's not theirs by denying credit where it is due.
If you think the government can invent the Iphone, that's adorable, they can't even invent a marketable World Wide Web, the concept is not even theirs, it's thought of by independent college professors. When do these people get their royalties?
I believe Goebbels would envy the US propaganda system , it is a corporate fascism that doesn't rely on being upfront in the eyes of the public dictating policies openly but works in the background , commanding politicians to do the work for them. And since u vote for them they are legit, what's more "u" voted for them, its quite clever , a case of being a coward that works much better.
Since i live in Greece , about Varoufakis and especially the party that he became somewhat famous with as minister of economics, it's a joke. It's naive to think ppl like him can make a difference. Most civilians want democratic proceedings and transparency but then can't do much against the technocrats and the banking system at this point. Plus, he had nothing to negotiate with and he just put the local banks under capital control , shortly after everybody moved their money out of the country. Sure it was a flex by Europe's banking system but he also had it coming and that reckless leftist behaviour doesn't do anyone any good.
So... if they gave Gorbachev a Nobel prize they should something to Varoufakis too , maybe an oscar.
Of course the media was against him by telling that "Varoufakis went on to teach Eurogroup about Democrarcy & Greek philosophy" in a form of mild sarcasm and self-contradiction because we all know we like "democracy".
Even Obama was saying that going off shore to avoid taxes "isn't illegal" , well u r the government make it illegal only he doesn't have the power to do that by himself along with his government. It shows the US government is actually already weak but they preach in the press it must be weaker.
Right wing in Europe has risen because of left-liberal policies in regard to immigration, Sweden is target country for muslim immigrants that do not want to adapt to the country they live in but want to take advantage (or rather abuse) of the high goverment subsidies. Sweden afaik is highly socialist country so it's hard to believe ppl are suddenly feeling left out.
Jeff Bezos explained his success just like Chomsky does here. Everything that Amazon needed was already there and nothing new had to be invented but has not really been grateful for the spendings in the public sector making this possible. Maybe it should be. Chomsky has such an interesting perspective on things.
Interesting or honest? I guess that depends on one's position in the market.
David Mock But Chomsky’s point is that it was government spending that created the ingredients for the profitable private business, and so it’s a special form of capitalism that’s at work, not pure capitalism. Picking some winning technology certainly takes skill, and considerable investment, but is nothing like the same as 30 years of funding a research program.
jeff bezos can lick shit off the floor...
But the public sector also wastes a lot of resources in certain unfruitful endeavors.
Juan Carlos Velasquez So? That’s beside the point ... a purely capitalist economy with no state or government foundation does not exist
The word is apocalyptic. It isn't done by evil men but by willfully ignorant leaders along with a lazy population. Everyone knows that this world would be a better place if everyone helped their neighbor, but we don't. That would require work that does not give immediate gain. Perhaps we as a species will survive and be able to look back at this period of history and shudder at the abyss we nearly fell into. Or not.
Or not
Almost certainly not.
Agreed. I've seen in some scenarios that helping others could actually save money - and so the elite can have their greed angle to it.
The laziness from what I understand, stems from our primate brains evolved to worry about the now, though there are probably so many other factors.
I remember listening some financial professor, explaining how early humans adapted to think about surviving day to day, to their immediate surrounding.
Cavemen, of course, didn't need to save for retirement, or anything in the future. Out of sight out of mind. It looks like as a whole we still have that trait.
@Sui Meing Wong it's darwinian evolution the "one percent" are like a pack of wolves who are protecting their class by making us believe that the economy is doing well because Wall Street is doing well.
OP reming me of evangelicals bragging about charity they do for homeless disabled veterans, while voting for more war to create more misery strife and homeless broken people. Guess that makes you feel good about yourself, it helps you avoid real problems. In europe, welfare is what we all collectively create to lift up who are in a crisis. It's the same as helping your neighbour, just in an organized and even way that reaches everyone.
The laziness myth is pure conservative rich man propaganda to pit people against one another - even when you handle money to people for free like they did in finland, people continue to work, because that's how people are, work defines us and gives us meaning.
As for dipshit libertarians, they are nothing but greedy selfish sociopaths who glorify money, which isn't even a real thing, it's literally a number that the IMF inputs into a computer and sends to the bank to lend to people at a profit. Lucky for all of us, they are
a conversation with Prof Chomsky and Prof Richard Wolff would be excellent.
Imagine conversation *of* them.. 😀
Everyone gets socialism but the workers
Privatize the gains, socialize the costs.... and after the 2008 recession socialize the losses.
Bernie Would Have Won. Long live Noam Chomsky.
make it happen
Bernie Sanders would not have won in 2016; everyone was against him.
Noam is the only sane intellectual out there.
Sort of. But the way he glosses over whites caring about their ethic group bugs me. Could the rise of the right not be largely due to simply not wanting your group to die off?
Does it have to be "xenophobia".
John NoNameGibbon totally agree. But in his defense, they would roast him because that is an unpopular subject to back. Every race has a right to be proud of their race without backlash, including whites. The leftist brain baffles me🤷🏽♀️
They confuse too many things. I agree with Chomsky on most things. I read all of his sources and they check out. But he just hand-waves whites away. That's obnoxious.
He fails to mention that white Americans are also against legal Asian immigration. More than even Mexican migration, which is more sympathetic.
I think Noam Chomsky would agree with me that no group should feel 'proud' of their race. Race is such an insignificant factor and pride is a sin... having pride in your race is basically taking credit for things you had nothing to do with...
Race is a reality, though. It's a real thing people see and make decisions on all the time. It's instinctual. Beauty standards alone are largely racial.
Protecting your group is also the only real world solution to collectivizing. You can ignore race as much as you want, but if it ends in Mexico being ruled by a white class at the top or Peru by a group of Japanese elites, you're a dope. Ignoring it is really, really silly in my opinion.
Capitalism is a technocratic belief system, and where belief isn't persuasive, force is used instead.
Austerity and neoliberalism seems to be a path back towards fascism and authoritarianism.
Saw him speak in Guelph Ontario back in the late 90's...Haven't seen the world the same way since. I intuitively knew that the world I was maturing into was founded on lies and obfuscation, anti citizen and anti life based predatory and parasite fostering policies but hearing him speak brought it all together for me. In the last two decades most of what he has said has come to pass and now we all increasingly (mostly unknowingly it seems) live in a corporatist right wing dystopia that puts profit over life at every single opportunity and it doesnt seem to matter what colour tie the talking heads they let us choose from is wearing as they are all on the same team. A good man.
He is absolutely right that we don't currently have free-market capitalism. We have government-protected, government-subsidized monopolies and oligarchies. The good news is the vast majority of the most ardent free-market capitalists agree with that premise and believe it is a major problem. Adam Smith specifically explains that that is not free-market capitalism. The difference is that free-market capitalists believe the solution to this problem is to actually implement free-market competition.
Also, it's interesting that he brings up that most people believe we should do less foreign aid, but then when asked how much we should pay most say more than what we are actually spending now. That is absolutely true. However, it is also equally true for the other thing he is discussing. Most people believe the rich should pay more of the total taxes, but when you ask them what percent of the taxes the rich should pay most people say a percentage that is actually lower than what they pay now.
Yes indeed. It's very difficult for capitalism as in FREE MARKET capitalism to function under whatever we exist under now (global fascism? global collaborationism? neoliberalism? McWorld?). It's one of the great ironies. The monopolies and the nation-states have formed these mutually strengthening agreements behind our backs, and this crushes anyone who wants to be competitive in the market OR in politics. It's like living in a jar.
Hearing Chomsky describe the internet as a public gift, and to realise it has fallen to corporate centralisation is a true tragedy beyond words.
13:01 just imagine my reaction when he said Bangladesh! Iistening to this from Bangladesh.
I will never tire of listening to this man tell it like it really is, cutting right through the bull shit with candour and alacrity
The world would be a beautiful place if there was a Chomsky running things in each country.
Or maybe the public should be running things.. like in a democracy.
@@hjuikkll the people, in charge of their own material affairs! What a concept!
People want freedom from govt and greedy corporations. We want ANARCHY/Self Governance NOT SOCIALISM ETC
I appreciate hearing Noam talk about Bernie in fair terms, as he always has, of course. #Bernie2020
The people in the background need to leave or be quiet
Every time. Every time this man talks, he is just brilliant. What an amazing mind.
He is a broken Marxist, Leninist, Maoist, Stalinist a hole.
50 years of calling for the end of capitalism
and the corporations. Ignoring mountains
of economic and political facts that utterly
shit on every word this stupid SOB
ever said or thinks !
150 million human beings we're murdered in peacetime
(forced labor, starvation and disease)
by ass holes who preache(d) exactly what Chomsky
the supreme left wing bomb throwing prick sells
to morons for decades !
@@lorenzomcnally6629 , your comment is nothing but ad hominem and abstraction.
Calling for the end of a corrupt system is what rational people with integrity do. In contrast, favoring a corrupt system suggest you may be a beneficiary of said corruption.
No conflict of interest there, eh? .~
Not to be morbid or pessimistic, but I don't know what we'll do when we lose Chomsky. He's one of our last anchors to reality and I doubt TH-cam videos will be enough when he's gone. I can't think of a single worthy successor.
Just had the same thought. After spending some time reading french postmodernist authors (yuck!), Chomsky is such a relief and down to earth man. Hope he will stay with us for a long time!
Capitalism is a system which has corporations and forms of exploitation.
Slavery was a form of capitalism or a part of capitalism. even to day with privative prisons and new and odd kinds of slavery in the capitalist system.
Slavery was capitalism to slave masters, but their slaves were forced to live in a socialist economy. That socialist economy slaves were forced to exist in made capitalist profitable. Every socialist nation has an elite ruling class that are exempted from the socialist rules. The proletariat have no voice or authority over his present or future. He who controls the past, controls the present, he who controls the present controls the future. Voting in a socialist government will be the last act freedom you will ever commit.
No you do not realize what the capitalist have done. Let see banana company killing people in south American such as banana republics. you live in a fantasy world.@BITCOIN BTC added the Nazi were a pet for corporate America.
appreciated for making things clearer and being a caring person
~●~ "...socialism for the rich...free markets for everyone else..." ~●~ Noam Chomsky ~●~
8:30: it's so sad that what he said about Trump first presidency, still applies to the second Trump presidency and is still is true today
The world has been stagnant for a decade
Capitalism has no future. RBE is the future.
Alternative economic systems:
- a Resource Based Economy (RBE)
- Ubuntu Contributionism
- a Freedom Economy
It will take a big event to get there though.
I don't know anything about the alternatives you propose, but I do agree with you that capitalism, at least our modern conception of it, is indeed dying.
@BITCOIN BTC Capitalism can exist with or without a gold standard. There's nothing magical about gold; it's just another fiat currency.
@@heronimousbrapson863 The gold system was based on how much gold there was, the opposite of fiat currency.
Free Capitalism (or anarcho capitalism) would essentially hand over all power to the rich. There's so many problems and counterarguments that it's like arguing that allowing people to beat their kids whenever they want will result in less kid beating. It's idotic.
Omg, this is incredible, please forward this to everyone who might listen.
The present battle between populism and globalization will dictate the future path of capitalism. The stakes are higher than many people believe.
In the past a simple reversion back to protectionism wouldn't have been a big deal - a tariff on steel, a subsidy to auto etc - might've passed with little controversy. However, free-trade has never gone this far before. The size of the global economy is unprecedented - meaning a relatively large international bourgeois has formed, independent of nations. The so called Davos Class.
From a Marxist stand-point, I think globalization will triumph, more free trade, more immigration, more global governance is the future - the return to nationalism will be short-lived. Why? Because capitalism needs profits, the bigger the market, the greater the profits - which means capitalism will always err toward globalization.
And maybe capital in that sense is repeating its initial growth within Britain, France, Holland etc but this time on a global scale. It will batter down the nation state as it did the old feudal estate with its bonded labour and age-old prejudices and customs.
As Marx tells us, capital is both at the same time a destructive and progressive force. But the progress will only be significant, if a global class consciousness emerges as the nation state dissolves.
Classical economics says that the behavior of capitalists in markets is governed by rational self interest, and market systems reflect these choices in aggregate and are therefore the ideal means of determining economic relations. The critique of classical economics says no, the behavior of capitalists is strongly determined by the system, that capitalists are compelled by certain "laws" of capital to make certain choices whether they want to or not, even though the result is often self destruction or even destruction of the system itself. Which viewpoint seems more tenable in light of the behavior Chomsky discusses here, of the most powerful capitalists in world history pursuing an intensification of processes that they know, that they don't even bother denying, are leading to the destruction of themselves, their system, and the future of humanity? As Chomsky says, this behavior is beyond any previous example of "evil." No free market theory of enlightened self interest can possibly explain it. It seems clear that the critics were right all along: the system is in charge. It isn't the capitalist who decides. It's capital. A *thing* is currently in charge of human destiny.
"the most important Intellectual alive"
only true thing to come out of the NY Times
Thank you, Professor, for ascending so many tremendous opportunities, often policies offered by taking behaviors of these different years in education. You are an inspiration and a lesson for sure.
A few interesting facts when he mentions the swedish situation are:
1. We have for 15 years had an immigration per year in excess of 1% of our total population. More than the usa had even in the 19th century.
2. We have among the highest tax pressures in the world, so even when we move to the right we remain to the left of all other democracies.
3. In Sweden we generally do not gather statistics regarding ethnicity and crime but two days ago a list of the 32 most prominent gang leaders in our capital was published. One of them was half swedish, all others were either born abroad or born to two non-swedish parents.
4. The gang violence in Sweden has escalated horribly and last year the amount of bomb detonations in Sweden surpassed all non-warring nations.
5. Even our far-right parties regard it as natural to have free health care and education for all. The main conflict is on whether maximum income tax should be something like 60% or 50%. On top of 25% sales tax, etc...
I heard with my own ears Jamie Diamond say, “we will have to go to our bunkers( they have amazing bunkers) and when itself over come out and get the world back on track “
We won't have Chomsky forever. If you admire him, do as he's done. He shows how to speak about policy in plain language, in terms of universal human rights, international law, and norms of human conduct-- the broadest notions of fair play, which still come naturally to human beings, despite enormous official efforts to rid the population of such ideas. And now, policy questions have come down to an even more basic and urgent issue that almost anyone grasps intuitively, which is the prospect of human survival. We can spend our lives as he has, discussing these things in these terms whenever we have a chance, with sincerity and courage, not because it's fun or materially rewarding, but because conscience demands it.
13:34 what the heck ,
He exactly predicted what would turn out to be the severe floods in history of our civilization, i experienced those floods, my home was destroyed by constant rain my family moved to other areas our whol cattles died , it was nothing short of a hell ,
I hope nobody witness what we witnessed two years ago ...
But this guy has chosen to always speak the truth , he doesn't care about personal remarks he gets the threats the insults he gets ,
I hope he gets well soon ..
Excellent analysis by Noam as usual. He is doing this job "ever since".
There is only one problem with his analytic thinking approach (which I use myself as well): it cannot address people who cannot think or even refuse to do so, because they do not _think_, instead they _believe_. Actually those are opposite mindsets: Thinking is led by the Question mark, and believe is led by the Exclamation mark. Believers are inherently ignorant to arguments, they see their believe as the one and only argument in itself. Any discussion is futile and just leads to stalemate. Instead there are tons of conspiracy theories ... including the stone age old antisemitism which bores me the most.
Apart from all that media rumble, some "smart" people are neither thinkers nor believers, instead they are opportunists who just try to defend their short term opportunities. They do not care about any discussions at all.
So, sadly, the intellectual Circle of Influence remains small.
interesting how you laid that out.
the big problem is that rational thinkers have to confront emotional thinkers. most of the people are ruled by emotion not reson... chomsky said so himself that is why the people should be the bewilderd herde as he would say. they need to be spectators not participants in the political game
I kind of think he'd say that if you can't find reason enough to be scared shitless into taking action over what has happened since 1945, then go back to your Twinkies and milk...just please stay out of the way of those who are trying to do something meaningful.
Man i am from bangladesh and the mean elevation of the country is 3-6 meters,so 70℅ of the country would probably be under water by the end of century , it would create a huge immigrant crisis in the whole world,we have 200 mill people right now,by 2050 it will probably exceed 300 mill
these annoying interlocuters keep parroting his words in agreement, it's just bothersome.
He says evil doesn't capture it, I think it does. I think it sets the bar for what evil is. If we survive, 31st century man will ask "What is evil?" and instead of citing Hitler they'll cite 21st century capitalism.
smart honest guy.
One problem with the argument referring to immigration and Asians making up 1/3 of the numbers cited. Those are numbers referring to legal immigration. Those numbers avoid, through omission, 'legal immigration' vis a vis "illegal entries" and the numbers there far exceed the disparity Noam spoke of.
chomsky in this pic really looks like he needs a hug
He looks sadly so tired & so old, telling truth for so many decades, being always ignored by all TPTB, it's wearing him down, but he remains one of the wisest humans talking about society, economics and governments
Frederic Bastiat loves to suck the assholes of the rich.
@Einstein was a global socialist America is doing better than ever... What are you talking about?
@Frederic Bastiat all this paranorma. Always the guns. Always the right is pissed off and ready to shoot.
He has a wonderful family. Believe me, he is loved.
It's important to understand where the neoliberal policies stem from, who they serve and why those who push them have so much power and influence. How is wealth generated? What does the employee employer relationship have to do with it? The only way to change society in the long term is to stop the source of the policies.
I really wish the interviewer would stop grunting affirmations. Let the man speak.
She sounds like a giggling lunatic
What's so ironic is this..the owner and operator of the 18 wheeler that hit me got off SCOTT free..no accountability..he continues to stalk me..he has killed 2 more of my friends.but he is under federal protection due to his double dirty dealings in this good ole boy state.
"(the resistance) needs to be brought together and organized..."
Yeah brings these ppl together... Maybe make a Facebook event or an Instagram story... R.I.P.
Intelligent Guy ,See? People can establish own internet but it requires infrastructure capability.
I used to love the generosity, politeness and gentlemanliness of the Americans, exemplified by Ronald Reagan. When I think of modern America and Wall Street, I feel ashamed to be a member of the human race.
Andrew Boot bankers.
Reagan organized massive US state violence against working people in Central America and Southern Africa: some gentleman!
Reagan started the whole trickle-down theory that preceded capitalism's run amok period that continues to snowball until this day. He was no hero, more like a zero.
From my town of 20,000 to my country of 330,000,000, elected officials represent and act in the interest of corporate profit.
How about Gutenberg and his printing revolution?
It depends what the taxes are used for mr. Chomsky. Right now, they are used to cater to the rich so there is no NEED to have taxation because it used to give incentives to international corporations. It is corrupt, the system of globalized politics is corrupt.
Even Chomsky can get it wrong, immigration actually does affect some communities adversely, in fact that is a major effect of capitalism.
Expressing concern about lslamification is neither rascist or xenophobic, labelling it as such is just a gift to the right. Calling someone rascist for criticising lslam is no different from labelling someone as anti semitifc for criticising Israel, which is what they're doing to Corbyn.
I don't think Chomsky said immigration has no negative effect. He said it is used as a scape goat for big problems that existed even before immigration started.
Yep
mr. chomsky got it right but you got him wrong.
MomoTheBellyDancer The two issues are not mutually exclusive.
uair lt's possible to accept the rights proclivity towards scapegoatong, which l do, and acknowledge that some immigration poses an existential threat, especially when it involves the patriarchal fascist death cult of lslam. The left's naivite is always exploited by lslam.
Europe is being torn apart by those who can see this inconvenient truth (the post industrial working class) and those that can't - the liberal elite.
I love Noam Chomsky so much.. he is so good at the disillusionment of American exceptionalism, which is the reason we are both failing domestically and hated internationally
5:36 is everything!
It seems to me that within the next 100-200 years at the most we will face a situation where the majority of people (in the developed world at least) will no longer need to work, as automation and AI will replace most jobs. That is an untenable situation under a neoliberal capitalism system where your basic needs are contingent on your ability to work. I can’t pretend to know what changes will be made to the economic system to deal with this, but I know that very significant changes will have to be made, either by parliamentary means or by force.
Govt is a racket for the wealthy. Profit is what matters. Sooo....
This interview was in Brazil. He was here.
@Dom Trussardi His wife is Brazilian, yes. I dont know about the daughter.
Very very well put Chomsky.
As a Computer Engineer I am very concerned of the Asian influx of talent. The establishment Democratic and Republican parties are global movers of poverty and conduit for wealth to the top hierarchy for the Social Darwinist superiority complex of Euro-politicians and their Asian counterparts.
Im sure corporatist along with Trump would not be dismayed as they need Americans to feel out of place in their own country.
Why place concern with stagnant wages when you can make enemies of immigrants. Specifically those that might be seen as contributing to the growth of technology.
Instead why doesnt corporate america commit to its people already here, who have enough competion with Asian countries.
evil capitalism.. Soviet Union was also a capitalist. Only for a change, there was only one capitalist, the STATE, the rest was it's loyal, underfed, underclothed servant. more like a very ignorant prisoner-slave for most of it's history. Except, of course, a ruling class, useless party officials that were inserting their unprofessional noses into every business, every enterprise, economic and social. and it miserably failed, the old USSR. in fact, it would have failed much sooner if they would not discover Siberian oil in the seventies that thanks to the capitalist markets and capitalist currency kept them afloat another twenty years. the STATE capitalism failed. now, with what Chomsky proposes to replace capitalist system where 6 percent of population has a million dollars and above? i hope not with a ussr-like system where less than tenth of a percent had enough to eat while the rest didn't have most necessities like food, clothing and shelter? what is this magic system that is not that and not the other? Chomsky might say a few smart things here and there, but having no solutions to anything, he should not be viewed as an old all out wise man that he is perceived like now. he really isn't.
He explains it in simple terms that I can understand. TY Noam.
Former Republican Speaker of the House John Boehner, who has always railed against marihuana in his long political career, is now a high level executive in a marihuana private company. What do you call this....
powell memorandum
Although we progressed technically (mainky through state, as chomsky said) we didn't grow ethically. The traits that made hunanity top of the food chain aren't the ones favoured for evolution and selection: the good guy has no appeal, the intelligent one neither, yet they power the engine that ruthless and idiotic policy makers govern.
We are too many, we are poised for destruction. How can we think that a planet made for millions of speices could be monopolised by 7 billion and counting of us, with no consequences. We are animals, but some of us made policies to elevate our conditions, others just bred because they weren't given (nor they researched) a different choice.
As time goes by.....Capitalism will be replace by a mixed form of Socio-Capital economy. The State will play a big role in all of this.
Role of the state: fucking everything up by merely touching it. It's a super power of sorts.
"...sooner or later we'll manage to destroy ourselves..."
Unfortunately, I don't have much hope that he's wrong. But we gotta fight anyway. Rather go down swinging than take it lying down.
My only complaint against Chomsky is that his calls for people to organize are largely falling on deaf ears. Perhaps that's not a problem with him, but he has been largely ineffective in "boots on the ground" success.
Admittedly, his intellectual approach to explaining left-wing perspectives was my entry into this world. My hope is that his passion will carry us into the future.
Really one of the things that has kept him from success in terms of numbers is that he has been denied access to widespread media exposure for an entire lifetime. His ideas are sound. It is up to us to get them out there. They are my ideas and your ideas and his enemies are also the enemies of the people.
Civil paralysis is not Chomsky’s fault, it is the fault of government poisoning of our food and ecucation systems.
People largely aren't exposed to first hand information on anything. They take their views from blurbs in the media. I actually read first hand sources and can see he's largely correct. Though he's wrong on somethings. Like his example about Fins. Yeah, fins have no migration and went right wing. Why? Because they saw Sweden, Chomsky. Duh!
I live in a small rural town in Texas and can't find ANY of Chomsky's books at my local library even though he's written over 100 of them. But I can easily find Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter.
" Boots on the ground" nice metaphor. How would this work be done in terms of military imperialism? How would this work be judged in those terms. Your claim simply isn't true. Sorry. Keep looking please. Chomsky (and many others like him) have energized communities globally for decades. You're accepting the corporatist paradigm for what "success" means and then judging him by it when he's working to teach you ways to do your own analysis on your own terms and then its up to you to work locally to see that bear out. Not sit back and watch. People throughout latinx nations, indigenous groups, communities in Palestine, even Europe and the US are using his work - and not only his - in real ways. It won't be televised.
The majority of the US economy was/is developed in the private sector, not in government labs. Private sector innovation has created technologies that comprise the foundation of most technologies developed in government labs. As usual, Chomsky has things back-assward.
I believe all system are inherently flawed. Ideas are simple, beautiful and impractical. Both pure capitalism and pure socialism are impossible with flawed humans in a material world. However, it's my understanding that, all systems have a fatal flaw, and will allow exceptions to themselves in order to survive. Than, as the situation progresses, the exceptions will begin to mount until there are two paralel systems in open conflict, one representing tradition and other representing the future. After a while the most advanced system will grow enough to suplant the previous one. That evolution doesn't start with a revolution, but it finishes with it. This is why the capitalist revolution against feudalism worked but the socialist revolution against capitalism didn't. The capitalist revolution didn't killed feudalism, but merely declared it dead. The socialist revolution tried to kill a still funcioning system, and failed. When the american revolution cemented capitalism, it's roots were already old and deep. When the russian revolution tried to cement socialism, it's roots were young and fragile. What will probably happend is that, as the flaws in modern capitalism grows, individuals will find a way to fix them by working outside the system. Those people will be like the merchants in feudal times, because the main flaw of feudalism was distribution, witch were solved by comerce. Once these ousiders of capitalism start gaining power, the old capitalist nobility will react, creating conflit. In the places where the situation is allowed to evolve more freely, the old capitalist nobility will become like parasites in the body of a new system. At that point a sucessfull revolution will either remove them or keep them as tokens of tradition with no power, like the current british royal family. That will happend again and again until we are extinct.
Agreed. The truth is all the capitalist countries have considerable degrees of socialism. In other words, social services. Taxes to pay for hospitals and education = socialism. Plus any number of government departments - socialism. Socialist governments on the other hand are recognising the value of the profit motive as a driver of efficiency. However, this can still be changed, with some companies getting employees to take shares in the company. This is not the pure capitalist model, which is more akin to feudalism.
Well said. It's interesting to think about and maybe pick out these shortcomings of capitalism and the methods used to circumvent them. I wouldn't be so bold as to label them or their implications, but I think we may be seeing early hints of this metamorphosis in the near-collapse and mutation of the record industry, all information-based commerce, and intellectual property in general. Something else we're seeing on the horizon, though it may not pan out, is automation removing the last bastion of the human worker: intelligence. There have been waves of automation before as machines were able to compete and surpass people in increasingly complex forms of manual labour, but we've always had a monopoly on jobs involving planning and intelligence. It's easy to see how blue collar work, which comprises a massive chunk of capitalist labour, will be replaced by autonomous cars, manufacturing, service industry automation, and so on. Office work isn't safe either--companies are already looking into replacing middle-management-level employees. If this comes to pass, it's hard to imagine how the current system could cope. There won't be pockets of economic refuge big enough to keep every in work. I'm not saying there will be revolution, but the economy will have to change beyond recognition.
Well sais!
We unfortunately lost Christopher Hitchens who was a beacon of light in this insane world but I'm so glad we still have the great wisdom and intelligence of Noam Chomsky. I hope he will be with us for many many years to come. We need him now more then ever.
19:00 good way to put it..... i had to vote Hillary, but not FOR her, but against Trump. i swear, it felt like eating a whole raw onion.... it really did.
You and everyone else are fat assholes for not voting for a third party. Proud of yourselves?
" Free market capitalism is the only system invented that makes even its critics rich, as Mr Chomsky and others have found out" - Dougals Murray.
NLRBE is a rational, logical system worth studying and ingesting asap. To study this socially and planetary healthy systems approach meritoriously requires one to set aside much state endorsed schooling indoctrination and political propoganda..which as we all know is quite a difficult prerequisite task.
Advanced economies are not purely Capitalist economies - there is a lot of state intervention. I live in China and it has grown at an astounding rate. It has massive industrial policy. But it's also really, reallly capitalist in many ways - on my block there are hundreds of small mom and pop business. Some are successful, many fail - the churn of empty then occupied shopfronts is continual. Proably several hundred million people will open a business here in the next twenty years that is completely free of state intervention. The better word than capitalism is MARKET economies. There will always be market economies; you could nationalize every industry under a complete dicatorship and in a year markets would spring up. Markets have always been with human civilization and always will.
Bernie Sanders for president, Noam Chomsky for vice president ( maybe it would work ? )
Donald🏺Bye
People need to read Daniel Quinn's BEYOND CIVILIZATION, Jean Liedloff's THE CONTINUUM CONCEPT, and Johann Hari's LOST CONNECTIONS, but probably in the reverse of that order. LC - which Chomsky loved - is what we need to shake off the funk we're in and get out of bed and become able to do anything useful for ourselves (the subtitle is "uncovering the hidden causes of depression," something like that, and it's probably the best such exposé ever yet written).
Then CC is about how to raise happy, free, truly loved children in such a way as to not pass the toxic and disabling parts of our culture onto them (The way out of the "deep problem" Chomsky hints at and has a vague view of, but doesn't have a very deep understanding of-he's got a kind of vague sketch and outline, but nothing concrete like you will find from the above authors). CC is probably the best guide ever written for how to raise children to be different than ourselves, and thus arguably the most important book in print in the world.
And then BC is probably the best guide in existence for modifying our entire civilizational social structure in a non utopian, realistic way, with a time-tested alternative (tribalism-but one must strip it of all of its negative, propagandistic connotations to understand, and trust me even Noam, to my surprise, does not know how to do that: he was simply raised in an era in which civilizationalism was so automatically and absolutely unquestionable that he simply cannot question it very well (even though he's been one of the best internal critics of civilization of all time, ironically enough), certainly not deeply enough to acknowledge the possible wisdom of tribalism, even though he deeply respects indigenous peoples and their amazing activism around the world! 🤷♂️).
That all sounds a little breathless, worshipful, and crazy, but I honestly believe but those three books, taken seriously, could enable us to change the world and save ourselves from our current collective suicide.*
*you see from this pov why we need the depression book STAT. But then true change is generational, so you need to know how to do that. But the young already floundered around in the '60, they need a guide this time for how things COULD be, but realistically, without any religion or ideology (admittedly DQ gets a bit spiritual in some of his other books, but BC is very slender, readable, and matter-of-fact).
Also so you know of course there are dozens and hundreds of other books and thinkers in all manner of media (such as here!) that would help in such a dramatic civilizational reinvention or cultural turnaround, my point is to reduce things to a very small set representing a plausible starting point. For example one glaring omission from my list is any wisdom directly from the mouths of tribal peoples, whom we recently learned from David Graeber and David Wengrow's THE DAWN OF EVERYTHING** are far, far more sophisticated and self-aware (and less "primitive" and stupid and child-like) than we have tended to think.
**which Noam DID appear to actually comprehend, as evidenced by his glowing blurb on the back.
Chimpanzees, War, and History - R. Brian Ferguson
th-cam.com/video/A8ZLiYIvtQ8/w-d-xo.html 45.30 min
“... disregarding externalities”
What conservatives do
lol what does that even mean? externalities of what to be exact? Painting all conservatives, please... you're telling me communists are any better?
It's a defined term. Just look it up. It more or less means consequences of the running of a business where those consequences are manifest in the public domain outside of the internal running of that business. One attempt to mitigate it is the development of the concept of corporate social responsibility. However, all too often corporate social responsibility is used as an empty but stylish exercise in marketing the image of the corporation as benevolent when it's actual efforts in that regard are largely tokenistic or possibly business as usual.
I'll debate you.
chomsky says companies can't invest for the long run but my understanding of why the pharma industry can have such high prices is because there are sometimes 10 years of the devellopment and research before they can start selling the medicine, is this not treu or is there another explanation? give me your thoughts
Your tax dollars. Like every other huge corporation the pharma industry gets government money to help them which means once again the cost of development is socialized and the benefits are privatized, and the government WILL bail them out if they fail so they do play for short term profits then when they crash you (the taxpayer) bail them out with your tax money.
Capitalism is merely another tool to dupe the masses suggesting there are numerous forms of economic systems. The reality is "The Power Elite" owns and controls their respective countries. Nothing happens by chance or circumstance with the exception of some diseases in the past.. The direct and indirect control of financial institutions, mineral resources and food supply chain is held as always by the select few. Whether you refer to them as emperors, kings, presidents, rulers etc. means nothing. Chomsky has always been one of many pawns of dissension to give the stupid masses the illusion of government and false hopes.
As long as they own the military, financial institutions, universities, real estate and all medical and social services, you fools will never be able to grasp the fact you are all nothing but 'Slaves without iron chains". The highest level that any one dictator can achieve is one that remains anonymous and invisible. As such, you can easily create polarization of the masses to destroy each other, while they remain safe and secure. Historically, Religion and Nationalism have always been the most effective and powerful tools to ensure their wealth and safety. " What fools these mortal be" The savage species known as "Humans" will destroy themselves within the next century. I just hope that once the parasites are extinct, nature with all its beauty and animals will survive, to be rediscovered by a superior alien species.......
Oh my God. Somebody with a brain!!. THAN you. I'm not alone.
Communism is the future. Capitalism, no matter it's form, has no future. Capitalism has been a shotgun shell to the head of humanity. We're going to die unless we reduce the global temperature increase. Two options at this point. Stop the evils of Capitalism or die.
@@resnonverba3351 You accidentally wrote than you instead of thank you, friend.
I've often wondered what kind of conversation he might have with John Gray (Straw Dogs, Black Mass, etc.). Noam seems to be point at similar patterns here, similar to Bret Weinstein's transfer frontier concept in places as well.
Irish Bunny - My Hero Noam Chomsky.
I love him. Every year on his birthday I make a special cake. He will be 90 on December 7.
@@doneestoner9945 Happy Birthday and thanks for sharing 90 on December 7.
Rixar13. My hero, too. If you are in the Boston area, you can come to the party !
@@doneestoner9945 Irish Bunny -> Thanks for the invite but, wife is boss.
Here 5 years later and DiEM25 is still active and working towards running in the EU elections now in June. Any and every kind of support is appreciated.
So many ignorant people in the comment section. It's insane!
lol You mean me? Nah, I like Noam. I just disagree with his view here.
He's about 70% correct. As most people do hate the fake "Free market" system. He ignores ethnicity.
Add your rudeness to that
patoloco1000, can you elaborate?
If we are so ignorant give us some knowledge and teach in the comments.
I'm amazed at how still this guy is - doesn't even move his mouth when he talks!
genious and as honest as a prophet
Chomsky is technically wrong to say "we don't have capitalism ; we have state-capitalism". It's true that all modern nation states are operating a mixed state and private ownership model of capitalism but we should reserve the term "state-capitalism" as describing those remaining previous nation-state regimes such as the so-called USSR where the the vast majority of capital owned by the state, with the CP elite - a psuedo capitalist class reaping the benefits - special privileges, high income, dachas on the black sea, caviar, overseas travel, advanced medical care etc. The fact those regimes, past and present chose to smokescreen their fetish form of capitalism with the label "communism". Chomsky should point out that capitalism is the current social system. It would be really helpful for us all to make progress to stick with the materialist conception of history despite it being highly unpopular with the majority of the master class who won't allow it to be discussed let alone taught as a science in schools.
If you didn't profit from these "gifts" you have no one to blame but yourself.
It's also very debatable whether "capitalists" are the sole beneficiaries of government investment in infrastructure and R&D but somehow I doubt that Chomsky would even go there.
Ive known of this guy for a long time, very important. But the bigger issue is what are we going to learn from him and apply it. He identifies the problem, but not the solution. We, in following his lead, need to identify the correcting factors
you can largely predict US election winners by campaign donations; about 40% of immigrants into USA come from Asia
Sly responses Chomsky. These government research and technologies are not just "handed over" to corporations, they become freely available. Other nations purposely choose which corporation get their developed technology.
Yet, I do agree corporations are heavily subsidized.
A piece of fucking sliced white bread! That has nothing to do with my point of showing how Chompsky phrases answers like the fake news. And my proof of that is that government does not choose who it is provided to unlike Say Germany who only provides their research to basically 2 corporations.
BTW, your point refutes Chompskys positions on who should pay for research, and as I am a child of Ayn Rand, I am glad u r on my side and not Chompskies