Can civilisation survive really existing capitalism? | Noam Chomsky
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- Noam Chomsky: Can civilisation survive really existing capitalism?
UCD Philosophy Society Inaugural Lecture 2013
Full story: www.ucd.ie/news/2013/04APR13/0...
One of the world's leading intellectuals and political activists, Professor Noam Chomsky has been awarded the UCD Ulysses Medal, the highest honour that University College Dublin can bestow.
The award was inaugurated in 2005, as part of the university's sesquicentennial celebrations, to highlight the 'creative brilliance' of UCD alumnus James Joyce. It is awarded to individuals whose work has made an outstanding global contribution.
Professor Chomsky was presented with the UCD Ulysses Medal by the President of UCD, Dr Hugh Brady, following a public lecture hosted by the UCD Philosophy Society and the UCD School of Philosophy at University College Dublin on Tuesday 02 April 2013.
The more you learn about how power works in the world and how it affects your life, the more interesting you will find him to be.
@@Mislimdaklepostojim Mozdatvojemislinepostoju
Absolutely Indeed. Pure Relevance
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It does appear to me that BOTH sides have been violating civil discourse.
The more you realize he manipulates people the more you realize he's a Marxist telling lies. Chomsky has always hidden in university, spouted anti-American, Anti-capitalism, subliminal-marxism lies. He's a linguist, but he's developed a cult following for kids who have yet to support themselves. His pablum sounds good for people who rather blame others for their situation that work to better theirs.
It's a damning indictment that important lectures like this are only viewed circa 200,000 times yet trite garbage is consumed in its millions.
Aldous Huxley was all too right.
most academic talks and presentations are hardly watched 1000s of times let alone over 100,000..noam chomsky has a dedicated following on youtube..tht y he gets at least 100k views..noam is a youtube celebrity in his genre..
We live in an Orwellian world.
@Robert Castle
Break out the popcorn the collapse shows will be amazing! It will make the fall of Rome look like child’s play!
Of course it is possible that the real reason more ppl do not watch Chomsky's lectures, his simply that they know better than to take him seriously at all....
@@mck1972 That would make them idiots, no?
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One of the world's leading intellectuals and political activists, Professor Noam Chomsky has been awarded the UCD Ulysses Medal, the highest honour that University College Dublin can bestow.
CONGRATULATIONS DEAR PROFESSOR NOAM CHOMSKY!
FLAMENQUEANTES&THE DODGES
The world system is destined to implode,not a matter of if ,only when..............
He’s a washed up LINGUISTICS professor. If I want his advice on how to pronounce something phonetically I’ll call him.
Meanwhile he can take a backseat to the real world of business of which he knows nothing.
@@billyb4790 in what world is he washed up, also business is a dogshit field anyways businessmen don't study business
@@portalmasteroverlord5863 no most businessmen don’t study business, but you know what they do? they actually have a business.
GNOME Chomsky does neither. He’s a washed up linguistics professor who’s glorified by people with nothing better to glorify to in their lives.
If this man were head of a business it would fold in a day, yet he wants to tell us how things work.
13:44 "The lower 70%, on the income/wealth scale, have essentially no influence on policy."
Exactly, so Chomsky wants to waste them by having them kill each other off.
@@lebenstraum666 Where'd you get that from?
@@lebenstraum666 Huh? You make zero sense. Also, your "name" is silly.
@@xZigZagg You don't need to know that. You are just expected to believe and keep quiet.
@@MauriatOttolink You're an idiot.
He is 90 !! Live Live Noam Chomsky (even as we are mostly doomed, he shows us the need to rise and resist)
Amen
@Doug Miles stop trolling, you will never become a 1%er
Doug Miles and that makes you ne’er sited.
Got a source for that?...lol
Life goes on. But live, live Noam Chomsky I agree with.
Watching in 2019 .Unfortunately it wasn't even decades left it is now years. And still our insane big business materialistic monster drives humanity into the wall at top speed.
Today I read an (single) assertion / assessment of 2021. The scientific research is there the scientist stated, but the consensus has to be the lowest common denominator agreed on by them all- but this one scientist broke rank, said 2021!
Now I'm looking for the article again and it is gone. Maybe it was retracted because a part of it was not reliable / verifiable or something after all.
The sky is falling, “not “.
Well phrased.
2020 and now we're almost completely fucked.
Spot on dude;its clear that something has got to give in the forseeable future and can come in the form of everything from global economic collapse to Geological disasters to a Global Viral epidemic that wipes out 99,99% of all human beings and we"ve become so many now that even after that there will still be over 700,000 people left to repopulate the planet over time.Or since we"ve overstayed our welcome we might go extinct because Mother Earth needs to rest for a few hundred thousand years now.
4:06 "Advertising is explicitly devoted to undermining markets."
4:22 "Creativity and innovation.. largely in the public system.. ". aaaaalright. So public == god. Private == evil. And cherry picking at it.
And yes.. for the "victim" way of viewing the world, which Chomsky advocates, advertising is the culprit. People is not capacitated to make their own choices given the widely available information they can compare any time they want.. No.. we need to create a system were "lying" is forbidden. Everything we say has to be 100% "scientifically accurate", and with the seal of approval of the government.
@@inmundo6927 yes, imagine the tyranny of a world where everyone had to tell the truth? Is that what you're worried about?
@@stretch8390 define "the truth". Yes. Im worried about that, because the truth (with imperfect information) depends largely on your point of view, experience, perspective, cultural background, chemical, biological background etc. So, putting restrictions to speech based on its level of "truthfulness"; is akin to denying freedom of speech altogether, and looks precisely like a tyranny.
And, as science tells us, truth should not be determined beforehand by some outside authoritarian source of "rightfulness", but rather by the open discussion of all ideas.
@@stretch8390 _Freedom is indivisible. As soon as one starts to restrict it, one enters upon a decline on which it is difficult to stop_
_If one assigns to the government the task of making truth prevail in the advertising of perfumes and toothpaste, one cannot contest at the right to look after truth in the more important matters of religion, philosophy and social ideology_
_The idea that business propaganda can force the consumer to submit to the will of the advertisers is spurious, advertising can never succeed in supplanting better or cheaper goods, available and offered for sale_
advertising is part of the costs of production (no difference between production and sales costs, all costs of production are expended with the intention of increasing demand).
If it really were devoted to undermining markets, it would defeat its own purpose.
But, from a linguistic point of view, it sounds better to place a label on a word such as "Advertisement" and relate it to some apocalyptic, prophetic description of a cataclysmic event, as in "the end of capitalism", which is the kinda speech Chomsky excels at (remember guys, Trump was gonna drop the bomb... no more bomb talk since Biden in office.. Chavez was good, now he is a State Capitalist since Venezuela took a turn for the worse, etc. .).
@@stretch8390 lastly. Is is well known consumers can be irrational, which is why there are certain things where there should be a social consensus on how we deal with things, such as externalities like pollution, etc. But it does not give an entity beyond yourself, the right to decide for you what is "right", or "truthful" or "well intended", beyond what people around you can decide, when it comes to "portray an image" however way you choose, of whatever it is you want to advertise.
Deciding for others how the advertising of your own property is supposed to be carried out, is not only insulting to the producer, but to the consumer. As though they couldn't know better what is best for themselves and the ones they care for. (Zappa puts it brilliantly in that court case, if you've ever seen it)
. And if you care, those are the principles of democracy.
One thing I love about Cuba is that there are Chomsky books sold in every store, newsstand and hotel gift shops.
EVERY? Is the Communist Manifesto sold in EVERY?
@@owlnyc666 perhaps not “every”, but I have seen Chomsky, The Manifesto, and many more heavy intellectual books in a lot of common places in Cuba. Havana’s open air book fair is always popular. The average Cuban is much more highly educated - and skeptical of world affairs - than the average American, who is basically an ignoramus.
Cubans get a good education and healthcare, but nothing else, Castro was just another murderous communist dictator the majority of the people have no freedoms and live on canned beans and canned meat in poverty
@@vipermad358 Much of that has to do with the Republican party in the US which doesn't value education. This isn't true of all the areas of the US, the New England/New York region is among the most highly educated regions in the world, but the majority of the US basically gets screwed because of the culture of anti-intellectualism and cult-following; and, unfortunately, this isn't just on the "right" but also on the "left" of the political spectrum which is easily manipulated into supporting the interests of the Republican party with movements like Bernie or Bust, which was very popular in the Western US and swing state areas in the center.
And how is Cuba doing now? Stagnation, human suppression, constant reliance on donations from Western countries. It makes absolute sense that a Communist government would sell Chomsky’s books preaching a Communist message, especially from an American Communist. It’s one way to create propaganda to maintain control of the people. It’s the same thing that occurred when Chavez and Chomsky were holding hands, and Chavez promoting Chomsky’s book during a parliament meeting.
"so an exceptionally gifted doctor becomes that way just by reading theory and no practice?"
Well, Chomsky isnt claiming to be an economist, but he is relaying the ideas of economists that you apparently disagree with.
Besides, the increasing economic crashes and collosal transfer of wealth from the majority to the rich minority makes a mockery of establishment economics. Which is Chomsky's point. The system is run by the establishment for the establishment.
Explain it better, please. I know it, for at least 20 years, Capitalism is an Economic Slavery System.
No shit, Sherlock. Run along to your Trotskyite seminar.
the point is simple for democracy to flourish, marxism is inevitable and unavoidable. Whether you accept it deny it ignore it, it will and shall eventually rise because democracy is after all of the people, by the people, and for the people.
@@khwajawisal1220 Marxism is nothing but a critique of Capitalism, historically the most effective critique of Capitalism, and the ONE critique of capitalism that capitalists ignore.
@@srubberalittle DEFINE MARXISM.
Reading these comments it is quite clear how little people actually bother to watch the video or reach the part where he establishes his arguments.
To say nothing of bobby's "dirty old man voice" comment. smh
they are paid trolls and disinformation agents
this is very, very good point. capitalism and socialism are secondary problems, the main issue is that majorities are never eager to brighten up. and this is exactly the reason why socialism is not possible.
We are watching. We are ranting and trying ... Hope without resistance is useless. They will win (and destroy the world doing so)
@@srubberalittle Hush now, adults are talking.
Yes he seems to be ageing. A very straight arrow in a very crooked world.
"A very straight arrow in a very crooked world."...u mean tenured radicals??
lol! “The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves.” Vladimir Lenin
Chomsky is one of the main reasons why I still feel confident identifying as “left,” because the last few years haven’t made it easy- the world in general seems to have lost its mind, but the almost pathological obsession with Trump is one of the most disheartening things, because there’s so much else to focus on. Chomsky has the right idea, he more or less ignores him, rightly so since the real decisions are always made behind the scenes.
On the other hand it’s impossible to identify with the “right,” since the issues championed by the left - racism, social justice, etc. - are still very much alive, despite how the debate has been hijacked. You could almost suspect certain forces are interested in associating leftist issues with as much venom and ugliness as possible in order to discredit them, while subtly moving it away from the rational and humanitarian position of a Chomsky or Zinn (not to mention MLK and others).
There may not be any easy answers, and the likelihood of things getting less contentious in the near future may seem pretty distant. But it might be useful to remember Chomsky’s underlying optimism that he always emphasizes after his sometimes dire projections, and hold on to the principles we know to be true, however they may be challenged or misappropriated.
@Bungee Jumping With a Noose Both Parties are responsible for this shit. Wake up.
Missy Victoria i’m pretty sure that’s what they were saying
Obama's idea of Energy Independence is hardly new. Nixon proposed we had oil to last us for "at least a century." That was in response to the 75 crisis. Too bad people don't think through these things; like Chomsky says Energy Independence "won't mean anything if there's nothing left."
try nuclear. scary, i know!
12:12
John Dewey called for workers to be masters of their own industrial fate, and for all institutions to be under public control. Including the means of production, exchange, publicity, transportation and communication.
Short of this, Dewey concluded, politics will remain the shadow cast by big business over society.
too bad he didnt live long enough to see soviet union's miracles..
Where does the startup capital come from?
@@MrThomas401 , Money arises, from The Ether... Unfortunately, the Rulin' Vermin have monopolised, The Ether... A Revolution is in order, to eradicate the Vermin...
Sudheer Kumar
It’s a great shame the Soviet Union betrayed the people that fought for it. I agree.
@@MrThomas401 Well... It's already there. Or do you mean to say you don't believe any capital actually exists today?
Capitalism exists and it has numerous variations and forms. Capitalism is defined as being an economic system in which investment in and ownership of the means of production, distribution, and exchange of wealth is made and maintained chiefly by private individuals or corporations, especially as contrasted to cooperatively or state-owned means of wealth. That is exactly what we have. Capitalism doesn't need to be free-market or laissez-faire. Corporatism is compatible with Capitalism. Hell, Corporate Mixed Economy Crony Capitalism is exactly what we have here in the United States.
"you can call it rect if you like" 😂 I love what that says about the youth of his supporters, who undoubtedly fed that to him ;)
Chomsky is the perfect example of an Echo Chamber
There is something exceptionally wrong when Noam Chomsky says that economists couldn't predict the housing bubble thanks to their belief in market fundamentalism.
Several economists (and even politicians) did predict the housing bubble and subprime mortgage crisis: Jim Rogers, Frank Shostak, Marc Faber, Gary North, Ron Paul and - perhaps the most famous - Peter Schiff.
And those were Austrian School economists, which is perhaps the school of Economics that advocates most in favor of free market and economic freedom.
Manipulation of interest rates by FED, the Community Reinvestment Act (CRA), Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae... Several government policies were actively encouraging over-investment in housing market. That is not free market by any standard.
@skutch Blobaum Lobbying is just one of the aspects of corporativism. It only means that the State is using its power to favor a group of individuals at the expense of others.
It is a problem stated both by left wing people like Noam Chomsky and by right wing people, especially libertarians.
But the solution to that is vastly different: left wing believe that the powers of the State should be used to address these problems - more regulations and legislations, while some right wing believe that the State being too powerful is the very source of them.
For instance, several policies adopted by banks are only possible by the existence of a Central Bank, like fractional reserve banking and its role as a lender of last resort. And several choices made by the state also backfire critically, like forcing banks to give loans to people with poor credit history or adopting negative interest rates - which is leading European banks to the brink of collapse.
Bankruptcy is a natural part of Capitalism and it only means that production factors in an enterprise should be rearranged in another way. When the State doesn't allow that to happen, it only reinforces bad decision making and encourages more risk.
Chomsky and Richard Wolff would make an excellent team on this topic.
Sokami Mashibe : Martin Wolff of the Financial Times.
+DavidMillsSeven Richard Wolff - the American Economic Professor, University of Massachusetts
Sokami Mashibe I have was thought of that, why do not they get along and think of some way to team up ... somebody should introduce each other.
How does an anarcho syndicalist society will prevent that people or groups (unions) become affluent (rich) and become a state-like structure to influence other people or groups (unions)? How will that be prevented?
@@carlosfdz7807 It is typically written in their constitution, that there is a sort of crack down and prosecution of people who seek to use authority to oppress people in which ever form.
Whether they hire workers or act racist or rob someone.
Although historically the movements never became authoritarian but rather more anti-authoritarian as they continued to grow.
Like in the CNT, there was a progressive push for womens equality, abolishion of money is some parts, and many other liberation movements that were able to sprout, increased worker control.
The same could also be said for Rojava, which also is very different from the rest of the middle east, in which it is secular, treats people much better than other nations, no taxes, womens movement and participation.
These genrally libertarian socialist societies tend to have a major flaw which is that they are always sprouted within war zones and power vaccums and tend to be crushed from the outside.
But internally they function well.
Watching in 2019, saw yesterday that under sea permafrost is melting in Sibera releasing methane. 😢
@Dirk Knight You don't appeared to have listened to the lecture. Mr Chomsky makes it quite clear that the oligarchs are in no way Free Market Capitalists. They have captive markets they impose conditions on, your desires have almost no meaning to them.
@Dirk Knight You're living in an orthodox fantasy world that hasn't caught up with reality.
@Dirk Knight I'm 55 and I've spent my life in the private sector.
I invite you to 'debunk' Mr Chomsky's statements.
Put up or shut up.
@Dirk Knight capitalism is built upon consumerism. One marketing class would teach you that.
@Dirk Knight Dirk Knight; that is just not true the only thing Capitalism delivers is profits for the owner!
You don't ASK Capitalists anything you have Require them to do good things or equal things!
That's like say oh lets ask The Capitalists to pay Taxes voluntarily; good luck with that, you have Force them to pay taxes and then without tax shelters!
I'm interested, what were your top arguments? Any different from Chomskys'?
Oh boy...Chomsky's not looking too good. I wish I could donate a few decades off my life to him. Unlike me, we desperately need him.
I wish I could call you on that.
I think he just looks his age. Great to see him in my country, only wish I could have been there.
i feel the same way this guy should live till 120 at least humanity needs him for another 40 yrs at least,
You know I keep reading people saying this same shit, does nobody understand that it is not one person that will make the change, we all have to start acting towards a more intelligent future. As Chomsky has said before, there are no natural laws in the universe that set this terrible system in stone. This system is man made, and men and women can change it.
george chancey Yes but we need his guidance. Without him we're lost.
This man is a giant of the modern age. His willingness to bring U.S. atrocities to light is a rare show of bravery. Here in the west we've been fed a diet of lies. If one thought of the Vietnam 'war' as the movies suggest, then Chomsky's look at that invasion is a vital eye-opener!
You should take a look at Michael Parenti and Chris Hedges too
Why blame an individual when the whole species are the guilty ones? Taking the long (time until the end of time, that sort of long!) view one must, if one is rational, conclude that the sun which nourishes the life it created will burn out in the final scene. We homo erectus may live to evolve (if we still have food for belly and lung) further, and mourn our stars passing, but we probably wont. An ism or two will not make much difference. The Buddhas, Christs - name your truth bearer - have entreated us to act in each others interest but do we listen? Hell, no! Gimme gimme gimme good stuff today!
As a student of society, I admire Noam for his open policy toward political intrigue and critical review. It is absolutely imperative that society begins to demand greater transparency regarding the political process itself. Capitalism works because it is very simple, and does not require special conditions, such as a higher education, or holding a particular policy toward "morality" and "ethical" concerns. The liability of profiteering entities is usually assuaged by sponsored groups especially being of, but not limited to, "big government". As an experimental physicist, It seems to me that society has been kept ignorant of "new energy technology" that would tend to free the working class from the total and complete "stranglehold" on the energy market being kept by the "central banking cartels" and the "military congressional industrial complex". This is not the proper venue to discuss technical details, however, please accept the possibility that greater science than society has been exposed to does indeed exist. And accept the possibility that banking industry and cooperative government has indeed operated highly successful programs of suppression.
+Arthur Cabral Noam would behoove himself if he was even slightly transparent. If you pay any attention to his ongoing lies speaking out of both side of his mouth he claims he's not a commie right, yet all his rhetoric is on one side to convince you that capitalism is bad , using all the rhetoric of a Marxist sycophant then out of his other asshole he claims he's not a commie. Noam must think his sheep are extremely ignorant or noam himself is extremely ignorant.
+Grey Winters Oh you american conservatives. Marxism does not mean just communism. Anti-capitalists aren't all just commies. There's syndicalists, anarchists (like Noam), socialists, etc. You're the one who's the corporations sheep.
@@greywinters4801 That's a five year old comment, but man is it a facepalm incentive...
Very rare that I can correct Noam Chomsky, but the reason the lower rung of the income scale are least likely to vote, is not because they rightly see their vote will make no difference, but has more to do with spiralling debt without statutory limitations, and the fact debt collection companies use the voter roll to find people.
Some interesting points. The economy as it exists today is not a free market based capitalist economy. Many products that we use today were created under the direction of the government for military use or for pure scientific research with no immediate expectation for a profit. Bell labs created hundreds of products like the transistor and UNIX under contract.
Our economy is essentially is cartel driven, fascist type. In almost every area, 5 companies or less control 90 percent of the markets they sell products with government backing and subsidies.
Through the tax code, subsidies and the military-industrial complex, the government has had a significant impact on the means of production since WWII on every sector of the economy.
One salient point about the current state of affairs is that we are willingly ignoring the mistakes of the past a going full steam ahead for another disaster like an alcoholic who just got a new liver and goes right back to the bottle.
Thanks, that was so awesome.
Was gutted that I didn't go down to Dublin for this. But then I remembered this is the 21st century. :D I can watch it any day.
Interesting how he points out that 2012 was a record breaking year. 2012 is the coolest year we've had, globally, since 2012.
In January 2017, several scientific agencies around the world, including NASA and the NOAA in the United States and the Met Office in the United Kingdom, named 2016 the warmest year recorded.
So what?
@@easywind4044 Climate change is real, not a hoax. And it's only going to get worse. Many Pacific island nations are projected to be underwater in 2040 and the southeast US meets the same fate in the 2050's and 2060's.
Hahahaj
@@easywind4044what do you mean so what
In my homeland, Australia, we are facing the same economic downward economic cycle. The democratic influence that inflicts both your country and mine that I have never heard you talk about. An influence grater than lobbyists is the media. Like your country ours is controlled by a monopoly. This monopoly is critical to the control of the masses and needs to be highlighted.
Por essas e outras eh que FILOSOFIA foi retirada do curriculo obrigatorio do SEGUNDO GRAU no Brasil e nos outros paises LatinoAmericanos depois de 20 anos da DITADURA imposta pelos Estados Unidos.
This is one of the reasons why Philosophy is no longer part of the curriculum in LatinAmerican schools after 20 years plus of US imposed Dictatorships in the region.
Thanks Uncle Sam.
Agreed with you
That was pretty damn good, thanks. You are loved around the world.
It would do the whole world good to pay attention to guys like Chomski & Zinn.(The peoples history of the USA) Chomski appeals more to the intellect and Zinn connects with the average guy, but both focus on social justice .
Noam cuts through all the crap straight to the pith of any perspective. He is truly a world hero
I hope you are being sarcastic.
@@johnnynick6179 Yes, I'm not
@@wadesmith666 ,
So you really believe that a Linguistics Professor, who has never held a job outside of Academia himself, is actually qualified to analyze & critique Capitalism? :-D
@@mck1972 without doubt
@@wadesmith666 ,
Interesting. So do you also get medical care from people with zero training or experience in Medicine?
Or have your car serviced by people with zero training or experience in Mechanics? :-)
Very informative.
We are at "tipping point." But I still hold out hope, trying to re-invigorate the 90's philosophy of art+innovation.
Good luck
The dream is alive in Portland
Humanity offers clarity, compassion, and consciousness. Every thing needs to change. EVERY THING. Remember: You are more divine & more powerful than you can imagine...
dont sweat it.. everything DOES change. There is nothing perpetual but change. Nothing stays the same, except for our wil to survive (hence, personal interest keeps being the norm in this planet, and they work best when interwoven with collective ones, but worst when one of these dimensions tries to impose its will over the other))
This is my mantra - One planet, one people; all for one and one for all, in a future world without money replaced with love and compassion in the service of humanity working together and sharing more where everyone has a place in the sun contributing to society to the best of their abilities in the pursuit of knowledge not wealth for the advancement of human civilization and its survival.
I have no idea what you’re talking about. A moneyless society? Doesn’t work, never has and never cut. Because nobody wants to be the garbage man
Humans are not angels. We will have a lot of narrow minded, hard hearted people in the world and a lot of conflicts for many millennia - but we need to find ways for largely peaceful, sustainable mutual coexistence and make sure human power does not ruin the very earth we live in. I think the solution is to live a life close to nature, learning from other species
such a dreamer.. 0 notion of economics and personal interest.. only "pretty thoughts". Problem is.. youd have to have the same interesnt in everybody else for this to hold true. Since you "prefer" some over others.. this is along way off.
First step is to coming to terms with the fact you dislike some people, and some people dislike you. Are you force to loving them? Well, taht is what you propose here.. despite all proofs to the contrary.
How are you going to raise the problem when someone did not "reciprocate" your love as expected??
Ill tell you how, its called "Free association".. and its the system which currently imperates. Money is only a medium of exchange for all that love. But it makes it "accountable", so we dont run into such problems of ambiguity (when it comes to the "sharing of love".. a unit devoid of any means of measurement).
I feel America is no longer free market capitalism but rather a socialized country with the population living off the government of our country
Sadly, I have to confess that his wisdom and knowledge about the world is waaaaaaay over my 50 year old head and what I really understand about everything
The point is you are trying to understand and that puts you high above most.
You can understand it! I believe in you!!
Basically for US is that there is always an Enemy who is threatening our great American way and must be dealt with.
Meanwhile, the overly wealthy of this country and the world, steal everything from all of US.
This is a gentlemen in the world,he is writter.he speak in langue,
Amazing man. God help us. Rushing head long into the abyss.
We've heard it before, that our grandchildren won't thank us for the condition of the biosphere left by our little experiment in trying to run a civilization based on carnivorous industrial fascist "Capitalism" (which he calls RECD)
It's easy to say that those past predictions of coming disaster are hyped nonsense.
Still we have a lot of really nasty littering going on; affecting ocean basins and and the world with really nasty ways of dying which haven't been in the natural world. And we seem to be finding early evidence of a mass extinction event and we're watching species disappear.
Are the different phenomena unconnected?
Remember it's Science!
There is no myth, to help or save us. I would suggest, if there has been anything real, the mess we are in would have never happened. If I'm wrong, and there actually is something real, whatever it is must be sleeping or in a coma.
The concept is simple. There has to be balance of the collective and the individual. How you get there and keep it is the thing.
Constitutional commune?
Can any find the source article Chomsky mentions related to banks at about the 10:30 mark? I search I couldn't find a darn thing..hmmm
Please correct the annoying grammatical errors in the title. Normally I dont care but thats pretty bad for a video with 270,000 views. Especially for a university channel, I mean WTF
you didn't even watch the lecture did you ? xD
Great response. I can tell you're a cut above the norm. Really impressive way to tackle the substance of the argument vs. a hit and run 3 word bout of stupidity.
Who are/were you talking to?
21 Studios watching a Chomsky video is like a monkey walking into a physics class
1.)The kind of cohesion Chomsky(as well as most critics of the Washington Consensus at this point)bring to this issue is precisely the obvious connection between the rise of other developing powers & the global expansion of US capital & commodities.
Bretton Woods created a developmental regime that was based around capital controls & strong state intervention in the market('embedded liberalism')radically altered as a result of the neoliberal revolution of the early70s(tested on Latin America).
Bravo
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With the last decade of so of Noam's wonderful lectures, I always play them at 1.25x speed on TH-cam, then they sound more like his younger self.
Whatever the speed, Chomsky is very repetetive and extremely boring and irrelevant..
@Grip you serve the purpose of evil. Plain and simple.
can you review the lecture where he goes from supporting Chavez, to despising "state capitalism".. what happened in between? I got lost!
Tank you very much to professor Noam Chomsky incredible analysis, en so true, merci beaucoup for upload this conference tank you very much
Chomsky is a Z-ist gatekeeper. As such, he ultimately supports the Deep State because it supports Isr…, The Homeland of the …s, which is why he doesn't actively promote third parties. He has openly said that he is a Z-ist. And he tells untruths: www.gilad.co.uk/writings/chomsky-bds-and-the-jewish-left-paradigm.html
@@dpersonal4187 You’re wrong. He’s Jewish but he doesn’t believe in a Jewish state. He’s constantly spoken out against Israeli apartheid and ethnic cleansing. He has said he considered himself a Zionist in the sense that he’s supportive of Jews moving to the land of Palestine, but not in the sense of displacing Palestinians.
By the way, why are you using abbreviations for “Zionist” and “Israel”? That’s bizarre.
@@jahermos Not bizarre at all - my posts are systematically deleted by you guys. The only path to peace is to wipe the slate clean and start over with an INDIGENOUS ONE-STATE named PALESTINE with equal rights for ALL, including the RIGHT OF RETURN and REPARATIONS for Palestinians, not the fake two-state "solution" that z-sts like Finkelstein, Dershowitz, Chomsky, Sanders and Yang push - that's just continued slow-motion g-cide of Palestinians.
A lot of theory has been put through peer review, but if you think that anybody agrees on future impacts and degrees of warming we have caused or will cause, then you aren't reading much literature.
The questions you have to ask about global warming are:
1.) How much warming will we cause?
2.) What are the impacts of such warming?
3.) What is the cost of these impacts?
4.) What is the cost of mitigation?
There are very few scientists who say that global warming will be catastrophic (c)
With a poison, we know that it will be harmful and without benefit. The cost of not putting the poison in the water source is also legative because it requires less effort on your part.
That is not so clear with CO2, and that is why those are the important questions. You put blanks for all of those questions which means you do not know the impacts. If you do not know the impacts, you can't say if they will be positive or negative.
Therefore, there's no reason to say "stop emitting CO2."
I hope this man will live forever, what a legend!
Noam is the living legend
I love listening to this man speak so much.
Anyone know the article about Greenspan that he is referring to?
Can civilisation survive really existing capitalism? | Noam Chomsky
Published on 3 Apr 2013
UCD - University College Dublin
Noam Chomsky: Can civilisation survive really existing capitalism?
UCD Philosophy Society Inaugural Lecture 2013
Full story: www.ucd.ie/news/2013/04APR13/0...
One of the world's leading intellectuals and political activists, Professor Noam Chomsky has been awarded the UCD Ulysses Medal, the highest honour that University College Dublin can bestow.
The award was inaugurated in 2005, as part of the university's sesquicentennial celebrations, to highlight the 'creative brilliance' of UCD alumnus James Joyce. It is awarded to individuals whose work has made an outstanding global contribution.
Professor Chomsky was presented with the UCD Ulysses Medal by the President of UCD, Dr Hugh Brady, following a public lecture hosted by the UCD Philosophy Society and the UCD School of Philosophy at University College Dublin on Tuesday 02 April 2013.
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Long live Chomsky!
Long live Chavez!! (oh right.. I forgot Chomsky does not support him anymore... my bad)
For the record, I'm studying economics, and Dr. Chomsky is wrong about how externalities are covered in economic textbooks. They are not a footnote, they are a major concern, and a source of the shittiest policy decisions in our culture.
Thats good that its being taught in your courses! i think it might not always be that way, and part of the issue might be that they are considered "external" in the first place, giving the idea that money is the central and best way of exchange when it is just one way of doing things
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Due to many factors like: Pronunciation, mumbling, fast-talk, Audio/Sound etc. »»» A SOLID, manually added TRANSCRIPTION/SUBTITLE would even give this great Video more depth. That way, MORE international viewers would/could join in - since they would/could translate to their native mother-tongue »the CORRECT way. ---- Subsequence (later) modifications (adjustments) can still be made, right!? --- Any chance of doing so?
Which resources are we using up, please?
Regarding the non-voting issue in the U.S. I remember a Tom Wolfe novel where one of the characters includes 'get out and vote' money as an essential campaign expense. This was a fund used to bus large sections of the usually indifferent population to the voting booths, paying for their time and their support.
One of the more incredible Chomsky lectures - mindblowing!
4:06 "Advertising is explicitly devoted to undermining markets"
And yet, it almost never works, no matter how many times I have seen a McDonalds commercial, I will never eat at McDonalds. No matter how many Kia commercials I watch I will never buy a car from Kia. Same goes for Wendy's restaurants, Burger King, Chik Fil-A.I will never buy and Apple product, I could go on and on.
4:13 "Markets are supposed to be based on informed consumers making rational choices, which is not exactly what you see if you turn on the television set"
So, he is under the impression that all of us plebs who aren't college professors such as himself are too stupid to become informed and make choices that we deem are best for us but instead rely on advertising to decide.
You offer a reductionist and uncharitable strawman of his criticisms, and then gloat on its destruction.
@@solidaritytime3650 Yet you couldn't refute anything I said. You're going to have to point me to the "gloating" part.
@@ElizarTringov I won't bother refuting something which criticizes incoherent points. Criticize the positions he actually holds, and I'll be happy to talk.
I don't have infinite time, and it would be wasted on responding to your misapprehension of Chomsky. This is especially true because the way in which you phrase your strawman argument makes it clear you've never read the literature upon which the original statements of criticism were made. You heard something he said, took it at surface level without context, and decided you didn't like it. There's nothing of substance here to refute.
@@solidaritytime3650 Well gosh if he only cited the literature for the points I mentioned then I would be happy to read it! He didn't mention the literature though, so I can only comment on what he said. It's not that I don't "like" what he said, it's that he is patently wrong and anyone with any shred of experience looking at commercials and buying products can tell you he is.
I'll be honest, his lectures in his old age have hardly any content in them. He basically said what you'd expect an extreme cynic to say, except very slowly, having to cut out four fifths of what one of his lectures would have had in his younger days. I try to listen to him as best I can, and it really just feels like rambling. And I can compare this to his younger days where I can understand him crystal clear and he has solid focus and shows no remorse.
A great lecture, and given timely for the whole world to TRY to understand the meaning of.......... Thanks to Professor Chomsky, and also to the UCD for making it possible for me to have this glimpse of the actual world we are living in nowadays .......
what a classic; "informed consumers making rational decisions"!
The Economists Noam quotes write better comedy than Rowan Atkinson and turn the Monty Python team into also ran amateurs...
Which is why I say we need "sustainabilitism", or some new ism that has a clear goal that is based on a real relation to the limits within the physical world we live in. I agree that any new energy source we add to the grid now is just used to ensure further growth without any plan of dealing with the real problem. I generally say that we need to have two thoughts in our heads at the same time, one to phase out fossil fuels, the other to improve civilisation to be more sustainable.
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I would call it a global purchase (willing consent of buyer and seller).
What I meant is that an economy does what it can with whatever is available. Energy is required to do specific things such as run a refrigerator or vacuum cleaner. If electricity was unknown then there would be no need for it.
The question is why can't his admirers analyse and talk like him.
What is wrong with his admirers?
Some of us can do so.
However,
There are sycophants in any group of people.
This was spoken 6 years ago and is even more compelling today. My theory is that the human mind is so much enamored with techno advancements it can’t stop itself, it will take a massive crises before the necessary adaptation to physical reality can take place - something beyond levels of discomfort that can be a ie achieved in a lecture hall !
The crisis of our global free-market mafia system is now inevitably closer with the territory of Ukraine having been chosen by our arms dealers as the crucible for competing mafia governments secret agents and the British monarchy covert assassins to have another showdown, where their brainwashed people think they are fighting for freedom rather than an end to wage slavery, and selling their lives to pay compound interest on every increasing mortgages, then leaving their children to pay 40% inheritance tax to Frau Saxe-Coberg von Gotha, the Queen and leading influence over the corrupt British and American Freemasonry.
Hello, I was listening to Scott Kellogg talk about not reaching a consensus on certain issues, it occurred to me that if a consensus can't be reached on issues then each group can form their own collective or a collective within a collective so everyone's happy. For example I like Murray Bookchin did advocate the abolition of money, there could be as many collectives for people who advocate that.
Wow yar jab mai dusro ki prettiest and khubsurti dekhta hu to ......apno me Kami nikalni aa gyi but pta chala ki ye khubsurti or prettiest cheez dekhne kabil shayad mujhe mere Bhagwan ne hi banaya.
Hey Ram .....hey Krishna
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Greed has no option but to eventually consume itself..The paranoia and decay in the world are inevitable, and only hastened when anyone tries to do anything about it.. Instead, people would be better disposed to spend their precious time in understanding the workings of the deeper layers of their existence, so that the foundations for genuine 'civility' may arise from the ashes..
"History abundantly shows that people's views of the universe are bound up with their views of themselves and of their society. The debate in cosmology has implications far beyond the realm of science, for it is a question of how truth is known. How these questions are answered will shape not only the history of science, but the history of humanity." (Eric Lerner, 1992)
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I agree with Hughie131. Although we're experiencing exponential growth....we could greatly increase our chances if we scaled down our consumerism/energy use and implemented sustainable/indigenous ways of living.
Nope. Consumerism and energy consumption are not the problems. It is all sustainable. The best way to achieve more prosperity, is to get the poorest in the world to a level of mediocrity, approx $5000 per annum per head, as rapidly as possible. Then, and only then will these folk begin to think about the future instead of immediate survival. And that is how you save environmental resources, eliminate pollution, save wildlife etc...
They don't have to burn the books, they just don't print them... "They rally 'round the family with a pocket full of shells".
To affect thousands with knowledge and insight is quite substantial. And by the way if you actually listen to the man you will find that he points out the good and the bad in both Capitalism and Communism. Polarity is great for political parties but the reality is that people from all sides often have something of value. I know, you may think I'm a bit Pollyannaish. But like they say even a broken clock is right twice a day. And life is so much more enjoyable when you can listen without labels.
Probably the most informative video I've watched in awhile we can defeat the corporate control it starts with this, real education.
Watching this again, 9 years later. 100% prescient now with the wisdom of hindsight.
Organised big money, funding hundreds of “independent” Think Tanks, politicians, climate researchers, special interests lobbyists and experts is so dark and outright evil.
Chomsky is on point, and I'm available to perform at birthday parties, and other events.
Our Only hope is for the grass-roots of the population to seize some aspect of our power by Grooving as One, for a significant amount of time!!! Groovism ....a ground moving cultural practice!!!
He's actually lived a privileged (nearly an elite) and remarkable life, but with the possibility of "immortality" becoming reality within the decades- at 84 years old, he is already generously beyond the life expectancy of even Japan; however, he seems to have good genes, is very privileged, and takes excellent care of himself (I'm sure). It just pains me to let go of someone as powerful as Goethe combined with a personality I actually love. After I read "When Chomsky Wept", he is my Dumbledore.
WOW, a legend.
I'm glad you agree!
2.)Which leads as a logical corollary to the following-
Your entire debt thesis is contingent on a global order in which private multinational institutions,exist parasiticly on wealthy nation state infrastructure(after all "debt" in this context is just another term for the privatization of public spending)sucking them dry.Indeed Micheal Parenti had long spoken about how after 'the fall of communism' global capital would exploit the debt issue to crush labor.
This is not about competing states.
femme shapiro: "the question is SHOULD it survive?"
Then answer is obvious : we love what we do, that's why e do it, and the result is our civilisation. I love our science and space exploration, I love our good music and art, and our ability to have a decent, sometime even fascinating life with the help of technology. I don't like our history but I love the fact that we study it. Etc. And to some extend we all do. Building a better life and assuring the survival of what we have build with our hard work will always be the preoccupation of people. One cannot change this. So the question is not if it should survive : fact is e want it to survive and we'll try to do it, so the question CAN IT SURVIVE is certainly interesting us.
You may think if shouldn't survive, but there is no way you can get humanity agree on that. Even if you convince some people to stop willing to make it survive, it's probably because you convinced them that they need it to die to survive. Which can happen only by wrong argue.
"Or have I got you confused and you're speaking of population control as in number of people?"
That's probably it.
Leo Tolstoy was once asked if he knew the remedy for all the world's problems, to which he replied that he didn't but he knew someone who does and that they should consult the Prisoner of Akka and read His writings! May I suggest that those today wishing to find similar answers seek out the Writings of that person who was a Prisoner for some 60 years of His life who now inspires millions of people around the world to build New Institutions from local to national and to international. "Let him that seeketh, attaineth."
@Blue Traveller No!
@Blue Traveller What has humour got to do with this! I have no wish to make an argument with you or be rude to you but your words show your ignorance! Please, do your research before what you consider to be humour! Have a nice day!
"Privilege implies exclusion from privilege, profit implies loss. If you and I exchange equal goods that is trade: neither of us profits and neither of us loses. But if we exchange unequal goods, one of us profits and the other loses. The determining function: Privilege. When 'A' meets 'B' in the marketplace, 'A' bargains from a position of privilege; hence, 'A' always profits and 'B' always loses. It is this that is threatened by…the repressed anarchist in each of us." -Robert Anton Wilson
what is this "rect" organization he keeps mentioning?
Antoine De Vuyst REC--Really Existing Capitalism
+William Taylor He keeps saying it with a t. I know it's Really Existing Capitalism but he keeps saying it like "rect" and not "rec".
@@MrBlancify He defines it at one point: really existing capitalist democracy (RECD)
And now say good-bye to Dodd/Frank. Doom cycle resumes.
The free enterprise system that we currently enjoy is peppered with anomalies and problems. But there is no impediment to anyone setting up cooperatives or any other mutually beneficial business or other organization if that is your desire.
If socialism becomes established freedom to operate in any other manner will disappear.
Please be very wary of any revolutionary change. The simplest thing in the world is to 'mend it worse'.
How about a just Tax system? A real existing just tax system? Use the pot of money to foster innovation and enterprise, aswell as social safety net.
Check out this incredible clip from the interview with, Noam Chomsky, on The Subjective Perspective Show on 4/25/14...Enjoy and listen to the FULL discussion at tsp.budandroach.com in the archives section. The Subjective Perspective Show ft. Noam Chomsky discussing a comparison of the 1950's and 2014
"This is the classic hubris of the intellectual..."
You're disagreement with him on multiple subjects, for which you are very likely far less well read than he is, combined with unsubstantiated sweeping statements reveals your ideological indoctrination and fanatical certainty.
Maybe talk less and Learn more. Just a thought.
Agree.
Humans have two ears & one mouth... We learn & understand more about this world we live in when we *Listen* twice as much as we talk. Read twice as much as we type & learn twice as much as we teach.
#DemocratizeTheEnterprise
#PowerToAllThePeople
#KnowledgeIsPoweful
To be well read is not a guarantee that you're not an idiot.
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Well Said!
As always a well structured and researched talk by the old man. Unfortunately some attendees decided the time would be better spent focused on their cell phones. Another form of putting ones head in the sand I suppose.
Well atleast they didnt shoult him down like his fellow socialist do when they hear some differing opinion
Perhaps torpedos hired by corporate big shots? Like those damn coughers sabotaging the audio the whole lecture through. Some paid to regurarily look down, mimic a lack of interest, and flash and beep their mobiles to draw the attention from the podium. And some to just cough out loud every now and then to distract people from fully taking in what's said...
Nice. Thanks, gurl!!
Problem is the financial issue is fact happening past & present, if we can sort this then we can address the "end of days" problem after all the UN gave us 11 years before we cross the point of no return in 1989 but we danced through that 🤔
It says everything about our world, when you see this video has 7000 likes, but a kid playing video games gets 10000000
supply and demand. Something which to this day Chomsky fails to understand. He would much prefer a moral know-it-all, a la Big Brother to guide us.
Good.
At least nobody ever accused me of being a capitalist: I am proud of that!
Yess! Be proud of not being called that! Its an insult to me
Chomsky is the developer, or co-developer, of the first computer language. The reason you are typing and we can read it is due to him.
He has also developed many theories regarding the origin and evolution of language and grammar.
NO he's not. He failed to theorise on the evolution nor the origin of language. Did you even read?
Every major problem is always someones Clever Solution that its founder is very excited about and very enthusiastic about executing! Each time someone finds a new very clever way of making very good money for themselves it always turns out to be a disaster when it becomes publicly accepted way of earning, which it always does.
Can civilisation survive really existing capitalism? | Noam Chomsky
Published on 3 Apr 2013
Noam Chomsky: Can civilisation survive really existing capitalism?
UCD Philosophy Society Inaugural Lecture 2013
Full story: www.ucd.ie/news/2013/04APR13/0...
JUN 17, 2015
I Love Ireland and all of the Irish People. Your culture was robbed from you! Stay strong and Safe for us here in the USSA! btw, I am a Chomsky-ite
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"and the burden of highly dangerous and strenuous jobs to be shared among the populace"
You are talking about central planning--such as using price controls in an attempt to bring about a certain desired outcome. Price controls have never worked. Miners get paid according to supply and demand. In order to attract workers to a dangerous job you need to offer them enough money. But something else also happens--as a society improves it develops better safety measures.
"Chomsky’s formula is straightforward:
1) quote a critic saying something supportive of one little piece of an argument you wish to make;
2) needle other critics with it; and
3) repeat ad infinitum until you weave an entire tapestry with this flimsy thread.
It is a game that only a linguist of Chomsky’s calibre can master."
-Sophal Ear, "Chomsky and the Khmer Rouge"