Had my 110 P300 for 2 Years now, best car I’ve ever owned, use it as a van with all my tools etc during the week, then the wk ends it’s a nice refined car. Most comfortable vehicle I’ve ever owned. If I stay under 70 mph I can get 30mpg out of it. Also never had a problem with it.
As an actual real life owner of Land Rovers (not the usual friend, colleague, guy I know), Land Rovers are fantastic cars. My last Discovery Sport was superb.
I agree with you totally, they are fabulous cars and wouldn’t want to change ours for the world. We have a D250 6cl diesel which we’ve proudly owned for 18 months. In this time we’ve had 2 trips to France, Arcachon and ill de re and both were brilliant. The car is a complete joy and so refined and averaged between 35-40 mpg which really isn’t bad and actually better than our old XC90! I would have gone for the hybrid but wasn’t an option at the time and agree for a majority of journeys locally the range is perfect so 20mpg on the odd long trip isn’t really too much of a hardship. Great car and we love it 👍
I had a new defender on an extended test drive last year and loved it but just could not justify spending how much they cost on a car only I would use( my wife found it way too big). Great to see a real world review and the whole PP gang on film. 👍👍
@@robertcook2572 I didn’t say I couldn’t afford it, just couldn’t justify spending that much on a car only I would use as my wife thought it way too big.
We have the same Defender and agree it is awesome. We took it to Switzerland for Christmas and it’s the coolest car to have in a ski resort at the moment. BUT that boot is ridiculously small and a struggle for such a trip!
We have had that exact model (without the explorer pack) since May '22 and use it to tow our 2000KG caravan - which it does with ease. The rest of time it's either short journeys in EV mode or hybrid mode (SAVE for motorway trips and keep EV for the town.) It's an awesome vehicle, makes you feel so safe, it's comfortable and the design is fab. Like you, I always look back at it - Eiger Grey and Black looks fab. Great review and glad you both enjoyed your trip and the drive :)
I had one for 9 months. It was fun, but I already had a daily driver SUV and my 2019 Toyota 4Runner just proved better for trail use, which is the opposite of what I needed in a "new" Defender lol I have nothing bad to say about the Defender though! It was extremely comfortable and great fun and superior to drive in the winter snow and on open country/desert trails that allow faster speeds. Independent suspension is excellent for the high speed stuff. I had a lot of fun and great memories car camping in my 110 too! Unfortunately, where I already have a superior SUV as my daily driver, and found myself favoring my 4Runner for off-road adventures, I obviously gave up the Defender. It was only that I didn't have a need for it, given what I already owned, and NOT because it was a bad vehicle, because it was super fun lol. My daily is also Land Rover (just more expensive lol), so I love the brand! I love seeing videos of owners that enjoy them so much! I'd buy one again! I'm actually digging the 130! It is more in-line with how I'd use it! Capable family hauler!
Fortunate to have a P400X 90. Took a trip from London all along the west coast of France, heading east to Monte Carlo and Monaco - fantastic experience - have fun !!
So nice to have you back Ped along with Mrs Ped. love the new Defender looks like it’s nothing like my 1970s Defender 110 certainly quieter and more comfortable also you don’t have to dress like your up in a ski resort just to keep warm
I k ow my old one had an Iizzo V8 the trouble was they did not tell me that the gearbox ate cliches for breakfast after the 3rd clutch so my mate fitted a jaguar gearbox he made all the mounting plates and sorted the whole lot out, the only problem then was fuel consumption it dropped to 14 to the gallon motorway and about 10-12 round town
That feeling of being safe is the key, that's why I've had every model apart from the series1 , looking forward to my next purchase. Although I'll be sad to let my 2012 one go!
When my wife bought a discovery sport, we had a voucher to go to a off road half day outing, we picked the defender because I always wanted to try one since they came out, was so amazed by it, I didn't realise that going off road would be as much fun as driving a sporty car on track, definitely on my wish list but may be a while till I could afford one cause even used prices are quite high on them.
My 2015 Outlander PHEV has both charge and save buttons. It's also a 2ltr petrol with around 25 miles electric range but not as capable off road or as expensive, but does everything I need.
Excellent video Peter, thoroughly enjoyed this one. Really love the look of the new Defender and agree this one is a stunner. Really enjoyed the mix of style in this video and how informative it was. Really must get a drive in one. Cheers Peter, well done 👏🏻😉👌🏻👍🏻
Recognised that route Ped, La Tania was our go to resort for ski trips. Seen a Xmas and a New Year there to at different times when our son was small and enjoyed it immensely. Proper xmas landscape and skiing xmas day was a highlight. Used to drive it overnight in or E Class back in the day (early 2000s) and the last drive in a Freelander 2 GS. No issues at all. There was plenty of snow in those days so disappointing to see you had none. Lovely memories.
Great video as always Pete. Great to see Mrs PP driving. Hopefully she didn't kerb the alloys!! Love the scenery. Shame Mother Nature wasn't kind enough to let you have more snow!
What a fantastic way to start the year.Thank you.I really like the look of the new Defender but haven't had a chance to get up close to one yet.Have always liked Land Rover since I was young.The first car I drove was a Series 2a in the fields around the farm and I was hooked.I have always wanted one but could never justify getting one as they are so compromised on road,but now with the new one I could do it.All I need is a lottery win.Loved the vid.More like this please.
Brings back memories. What tyres were you running on? Our son was in school in Villars Switzerland for five years. We used to visit every six weeks during term time when we lived in Basel. I often watched land/range rovers spinning down the mountain road on the wrong tyres. Unfortunately a range rover went through a barrier and plunged down the side of the mountain, killing all inside. I had a BMW 5 series touring( RWD) on winter tyres. I also had a set of chains which I never had to use on that road. I remember once having to help a British couple who were stuck again wrong tyres. The road was so slippery I fell flat on my back. When I got home I told my wife what happened. She knew it was true since when she looked at my back she could see the imprint on my pullover on my back. When you go back in February make sure you have winter tyres on the vehicle and enjoy the skiing.
just love the 'production' - the music so uplifting as Mr Ped was enthusiastic to do the journey and the contrast with Mrs Ped just being so "unimpressed" with him and his passion - just like a classic british comedy - - - excellent excellent work
I think you're spot on with your Discovery comment. They should have just retired the Defender name and called it a Discovery. Way out of my price range though.
Surprised at the fuel consumption as I know slightly more aerodynamic but…. I did Edinburgh & back - 600 miles in a RR Sport P400 PHEV & I fully charged the battery before leaving, once at Tebay Services M6 North & once at our destination in Edinburgh before our return 300 miles journey without recharging and we achieved, at 70mph both ways 50 mpg!! Absolutely brilliant! Can’t praise the car enough. I know have an I Pace but after the hassle of EV Charging over Xmas 22 with everyone it now seems running EVs (no such problem in 2021 or 2020) I would definitely by the F Pace P400 PHEV for my next car & skip halfway charging unless the infrastructure, dramatically improves.
I Love this new Defender Pete It looks ace . Wow such an epic trip and some beautiful backdrops. Great Review but i think you should have one for longer , Then Mrs P can drive it 😂😂🙏🙏
Great video ped again one of the best for any potential buyer s .shame about the on road recharge not available.just a quick point would be nice to know hotel costs as would like to do a trip like this some time. Well done here’s to more great content in 2023🎉❤.
..great video to start the new year Pete 👍👌...like the Provence and Mont Ventoux (remember my Leader of the Pack T 😂 at top of this mountain last summer) ...and I like the new generation Landy as well. It is a typical british car, a real icon of SUVs and that's what counts even if the petrol consuption is a little bit higher. Absolutely great 👍😎
Never owned a Land Rover. I like the marque though ! Aren't they beset with reliability issues or is this a popular misconception ? I have the RAV 4 PHEV and it is delivering almost 50 miles in EV and it has a ''TRAIL mode too. The RAV has a wading depth of 18 inches! I love it ..........................but in sheer looks I LOVE the Land Rover Defender. Oh I really do 😀😀😀😀
Great video Pete, good to see the family, Mrs PP is Kool. Love the Defender spec, although prices in my view are ridiculous. Keep up the great work and thanks.
So very very interesting Mr & Mrs P I’d still prefer the Discovery though as, personally , the balance between luxury and ability is better for super long journeys 🤓👍👍
Everyone seems to gravitate to the Black models and colours with big wheels and skinny tyres, but I think the car looks way better dialed-back with fatter tyres, steelies, soft colours and clean (from external accessories)
I have the Evoque P300e PHEV Autobiography and the combination of electric with the turbo charged petrol engine is great. I noticed you said on the Defender that the engine can't charge the battery. On our half day at Eastnor Castle we tried the Evoque PHEV and were told that in the Mud & Ruts mode the engine will charge the battery (not something they tell you in the manual), so not sure if the Defender is different. Because on the Evoque the engine drives the front wheels and the electric the back wheels, so with the engine charging the battery, you can always have 4 wheel drive.
I would love one of these - and an original 110 but agree the original is not good to drive in. I have a RR Sport V6 diesel which is just fantastic - always wanted an original Range Rover (and still do) but figure the Sport is way better option nowadays. Tows the caravan with ease and economical to boot. The spec on this 110 - a winch with 22 inch rims! I changed the 22 to 20 inch rims and rides so much better and can go off road now too. Great video as usual - cheers from Australia
Enjoyed the video 👍We found in our Discovery Sport that mpg on the autoroute with items such as roof boxes and doing 80mph was poor, for the DS anyway, getting around 30mpg. I think the 2.0L engines aren't the best for long miles and heavy cars. The 2nd gen JLR hybrid system is now in the new RR/RRS and seems to be mated to the 6 cylinder engines which I think will make much more sense in the Defender. I have a 130 this weekend to play with in D300 guise. Will be driving it along your favourite road in the soaking wet... It's huge!
Great video and they are stunning. There’s load of them out here in Qatar but fuel costs don’t matter here so most are V8’s. Shame that the PHEV doesn’t recharge itself and hope they develop that side.
After driving several of these I'd have a 90.....v8 if being mad....diesel or phev if less mad....just makes you feel good driving one...I have driven the old one a couple of times.....very different...no room etc.....loved that too...seems I'm easily pleased...😅
At last you get to test the Defender, was looking at a 90 but the price jumped up significantly from my original quote. Drove the 110 off road when it first came out and it was quite impressive until a dash light came on after wading. Lots of people said it should have been called the Disco 5 not a Defender.
Great video again from Team PP.👍 I just think the Gear Case Box thing would look so much better if it was the same Colour Black as the Defender, it does look out of place on the back quarter. Would I have the 110... Yes! in a heartbeat, but the all petrol version for me.I just think all that extra hybrid technical science stuff on vehicles today is just more expense if anything does wrong with it. 🤔
I should mention that the thing we were most surprised with was the way the defender eats up motorways with ease and comfort, its quickly turned into one of the best cars Ive ever had. Also , you don’t mention using eco mode ? We tried it and it definitely makes a difference, just a pity its such a faff to select it.
Great road trip video, lots of honest comments. This vehicle is an enigma to me, too expensive and plush to put it to work as original LR were. It is just another Chelsea tractor of sorts. If LR are Serious about electrifying their vehicles, they should have a chat with a Welshman from North Wales about electric drivetrains on 4x4 ‘s, and save themselves millions on development costs! 😎🏴👍
Really enjoyed the video and love the Defender. After driving one, I bought a Discovery 5 D300, which I just love. You seem to to be on a big downer with the the D5 though 😂
I love the new Defender, but I'll be running my Disco 3 for a long time yet. On a long journey towing a Sankey trailer from Swindon to Bangor, I just averaged 28.5 mpg. Without the trailer i get 32 mpg. Not bad.
Brilliant video Pete and interesting to see that Tracey liked as much too. I love mine and have to say that it just eats up miles so easily and comfortably. Trouble is now I need to add the pack!!
Not sure of the logic of “Save” mode recharging the battery? Plug-ins should always be charged from the grid. On the motorway just increases the fuel burn.
Happy New Yew Mr & Mrs PP, what a lovely adventure to have together with the Pups over New Year. Real shame about the lack of snow but yet another real life objective insight to life with the Defender and a cracker to start your 2023 content. JLR and particularly with the LR & RR brand products have created some really smart, good looking vehicles and an extremely strong customer base, despite the very well known and documented post purchase customer experience which includes 'in warranty' interactions. If they would take the time to invest and transform the customer interaction culture across the brand it would take the brand to another level. The vehicle you drove on your trip is a very stealthy, smart and cool looking thing, good enough to justify the steep price tag for those in the market for something in this category and with the budget. I do however, have a slight, but to me (and the drivers following one) an important annoyance. The rear indicator cluster is completely useless in practice and verging on the dangerous, another case of design and styling over safety and practicality in my opinion. At least it is in a separate cluster for those drivers who indicate and break simultaneously making the red and orange light illumination totally indistinguishable from each other. Just a personal point though directed at LR. Looking forward to a content filled 2023 Ped. Tipping a glass of thanks and admiration to the late, great Ken Block. We have so much to thank him for and will miss what he did for the motorsport and entertainment world and my thoughts are with his family. Desperately sad, Hoon easy KB
Great video. Forget all the "Super" cars. That is my dream if I don't get a Cullinan first. [Before handing it back, don't forget to check the wheels!] Did I see a sock on one of the pups? I hope all is OK
Will this fall apart like a clown car after 40K like most other Landrovers. Is the 2.0 petrol hybrid combo really big enough to lug around 2.2 tonnes? Will this be another coolant gobbling, manifold cracking, cylinder blowing nightmare of long term ownership? Would be interested in hearing from someone with 80K on the clock.
Great Video as always. I've had 2 SWB 90 Defenders in the Old Gen 1 shape. 1st 1 was a rare RAF SWB S3 2.25D & 2 was a Red 90 again SWB. Would really like the Gas guzzling V8 in a 90 shape again, but as you say any option atm is an expensive 1. Funny some of your drive reminded me, when I came back from Rimini in Italy via the Mont Blanc Tunnel and stopped near Macon. Not as nice as where all 4 of you stayed, but did it's job.
20mpg over 2000 miles is horrendous even my AMV8 did more than that, admittedly another .5mpg but still more. More importantly you were at Mont Ventoux and didn't cycle up it! Finally .....£92k......definitely a car for the average wage owner.
Great informative video! Jesus, 20 mpg from a hybrid. My wife has a 2016 BMW M50D, similar performance and weight. Averages 30-35 MPG... There is a way to go to call this progress.
Hi Ped Very interesting review. Have a sneaky admiration for the ability of early Land Rovers. Range Rovers out of my price range! One question this car looks mean & cool on those 22” rims, but do you think they affect rude comfort?
Great video to start 2023 with Ped! The defender is now just another expensive to be seen in city car the people who buy these in uk will never use them for the purpose they are built for and Land Rover know that it’s original concept has been lost and it’s priced OTT
I do love the looks of the defender and love that so many say it’s the car the discover 5 should have been - I’ve heard anecdotally it’s stealing sales from the disco. If I was remotely confident they had actually addressed their reliability issues I’d buy one for azure - defo my preference over a disco, especially when you look at prices of both. We used to drive down to the alps in my parents disco 1 - it’s when it came in t it’s own, especially gong up the mountain in deep snow at the end f a no day. Mum and I would swap seats at the bottom of the mountain as dad and I had driven it so much off road and was scared of driving on snow whereas dad and I were used to driving and knowing the car in extremis. We drove it one year with snow settling on motorway and it just dug its shoulder in, was amazing and didn’t skip a beat in really nasty conditions and dong 2,500 miles by time we’d done Surrey to flaine and back as well as three airport transfers. We got home and a week later, spat it’s turbo, Intercooler, clutch, rear diff, power steering pump etc - despite service week before, with fresh everything oils etc.
It does appear to only have half an engine, as much as I like the EV bit which is nice when you can use it, stop/start traffic etc. A V6 would seem more appropriate in a vehicle that size (says the man who hasn't driven it). For comparison my Cayenne Diesel S (V8) has done up to 36mpg on a trip like that so ~1000km on a tank full.
Great video again Pete👍 fuel economy poor, we have a RRS HST 3lt petrol and use it to go to the Alps and get 30mpg. If I tow the car trailer it drops to 14😳 I guess the Defender is going to be worse than that!
An interesting, informative review as always 👍 The new Defender really appeals but quite honestly LR need to talk to Hyundai, Toyota etc etc as that Hybrid mode is frankly woeful which is a real shame as this is such a capable vehicle.
Afternoon PP Feeling better ? Just my opinion as never I’ve driving a Defender but why did they not make it a 3 litre PHEV as surely a 2 litre petrol carrying all that weight would give poor mpg as I know someone who owns a Volvo xc90 and he’s often complaining that once battery drained not only is it poor mpg but it’s straining when car fully loaded. Still take one tho 😀
An interesting video, particularly as I drive down to Provence every couple of years and nine months ago I bought a Range Rover Sport P400e which has the same drive train, although the hybrid battery is a little smaller than the Defender’s. Despite that, the RRS weighs more, which is why I was surprised at your economy stats. I’m getting 28-32 mpg on long motorway journeys (4 hours) and my daily commute of 13 miles each way is giving me 75-200 mpg depending on traffic conditions and temperature. I would have expected you to achieve similar or better; I suspect your cargo box, ladder and roof rack are what make the difference. They may look good but I think they may prove to be expensive options.
Surprised just how poor your MPG was on the trip. Back in September I took my RR Sport P400e to Lake Garda from Edinburgh (with bike in the back for Stelvio/Monte Baldo etc) and over 3,300 miles averaged 29.2 MPG................and that was with only one battery recharge on the entire trip. Like you I sat at the motorway limit for most of the trip. I'm about to order the new RR Sport, however, with the MHEV D300 and that's because the torque characteristics of the small highly tuned petrol engine just do not work well with a 2.7 ton truck. The new P440e does, to be fair, come with a much bigger capacity petrol unit so may be better suited to a car of this bulk.
Good on your missus mine would have stabbed me in the neck just for asking if she would like to drive in France, needless to say she is X. Glad you said it this Defender looks to have more in common with the disco than the traditional defenders.
Great review! I was wondering, how was your experience with the seats? They look rather basic. It looks like they can use some adjustability like 'seat extension' for your legs, but I might be wrong.
Enjoyed the video thanks. An appealing car but what a bombshell 20mpg is. Can’t imagine ever buying a car with that consumption. 25 miles on electric power is nowhere near enough to be any use to me.
I've had my P400e for two years, 10,000 miles and it's been a 100% perfect car, love it.
So you so not travel should have done 15000plus in 2 years
Had my 110
P300 for 2
Years now, best car I’ve ever owned, use it as a van with all my tools etc during the week, then the wk ends it’s a nice refined car. Most comfortable vehicle I’ve ever owned. If I stay under 70 mph I can get 30mpg out of it. Also never had a problem with it.
Very nice!
As an actual real life owner of Land Rovers (not the usual friend, colleague, guy I know), Land Rovers are fantastic cars. My last Discovery Sport was superb.
I agree with you totally, they are fabulous cars and wouldn’t want to change ours for the world. We have a D250 6cl diesel which we’ve proudly owned for 18 months. In this time we’ve had 2 trips to France, Arcachon and ill de re and both were brilliant. The car is a complete joy and so refined and averaged between 35-40 mpg which really isn’t bad and actually better than our old XC90!
I would have gone for the hybrid but wasn’t an option at the time and agree for a majority of journeys locally the range is perfect so 20mpg on the odd long trip isn’t really too much of a hardship. Great car and we love it 👍
Thanks for this 👍
Hilarious stuff with Mrs PP. Glad that we all share similar banter with our better halves.
Glad you enjoyed it
I had a new defender on an extended test drive last year and loved it but just could not justify spending how much they cost on a car only I would use( my wife found it way too big). Great to see a real world review and the whole PP gang on film. 👍👍
Yeah they are expensive 😬
Yup crazy money for a daily made even worse that a new range rover sport is base spec is £80k crazy
Why did you take it for a test drive if you knew you couldn't afford one?
@@robertcook2572 I didn’t say I couldn’t afford it, just couldn’t justify spending that much on a car only I would use as my wife thought it way too big.
@@stefanedmeades4298 But if you could afford it, it wouldn't matter.
I like the Defender
Not keen on the Explorer pack and the panniers, which to me look ridiculous.
Another great video, Pete
Thanks 👍
Loved the video Pete. Looks like a great car. Can l say again HNY to all the Ped family & all the best for 2023. Cheers, John.
Same to you John 👍
Hi to you both, a lovely lil trip indeed I say. I like these Defenders, defo grown on me. 👍👍🇬🇧
Glad you enjoyed it chap 👍
We have the same Defender and agree it is awesome. We took it to Switzerland for Christmas and it’s the coolest car to have in a ski resort at the moment. BUT that boot is ridiculously small and a struggle for such a trip!
We have had that exact model (without the explorer pack) since May '22 and use it to tow our 2000KG caravan - which it does with ease. The rest of time it's either short journeys in EV mode or hybrid mode (SAVE for motorway trips and keep EV for the town.) It's an awesome vehicle, makes you feel so safe, it's comfortable and the design is fab. Like you, I always look back at it - Eiger Grey and Black looks fab. Great review and glad you both enjoyed your trip and the drive :)
Awesome cars 👌
Bit late in the day buy Happy New Year everyone, another excellent video, love a road trip - thanks for taking us along for the ride 👍
Thanks 👍
I had one for 9 months. It was fun, but I already had a daily driver SUV and my 2019 Toyota 4Runner just proved better for trail use, which is the opposite of what I needed in a "new" Defender lol
I have nothing bad to say about the Defender though! It was extremely comfortable and great fun and superior to drive in the winter snow and on open country/desert trails that allow faster speeds. Independent suspension is excellent for the high speed stuff. I had a lot of fun and great memories car camping in my 110 too! Unfortunately, where I already have a superior SUV as my daily driver, and found myself favoring my 4Runner for off-road adventures, I obviously gave up the Defender. It was only that I didn't have a need for it, given what I already owned, and NOT because it was a bad vehicle, because it was super fun lol.
My daily is also Land Rover (just more expensive lol), so I love the brand!
I love seeing videos of owners that enjoy them so much! I'd buy one again! I'm actually digging the 130! It is more in-line with how I'd use it! Capable family hauler!
Fortunate to have a P400X 90. Took a trip from London all along the west coast of France, heading east to Monte Carlo and Monaco - fantastic experience - have fun !!
Cool 👌
So nice to have you back Ped along with Mrs Ped. love the new Defender looks like it’s nothing like my 1970s Defender 110 certainly quieter and more comfortable also you don’t have to dress like your up in a ski resort just to keep warm
Thanks mate. They are night and day compared to the original 👍
I k ow my old one had an Iizzo
V8 the trouble was they did not tell me that the gearbox ate cliches for breakfast after the 3rd clutch so my mate fitted a jaguar gearbox he made all the mounting plates and sorted the whole lot out, the only problem then was fuel consumption it dropped to 14 to the gallon motorway and about 10-12 round town
No such thing as a 70s Defender.🤷♂️🤷♂️
That feeling of being safe is the key, that's why I've had every model apart from the series1 , looking forward to my next purchase. Although I'll be sad to let my 2012 one go!
I agree 👍
Super road trip with Mrs P and the two dogs 🐕 🐕 and the Defender!
Thanks 🙏🏻
When my wife bought a discovery sport, we had a voucher to go to a off road half day outing, we picked the defender because I always wanted to try one since they came out, was so amazed by it, I didn't realise that going off road would be as much fun as driving a sporty car on track, definitely on my wish list but may be a while till I could afford one cause even used prices are quite high on them.
Proper off roading is great fun. The Land Rover experience centres are amazing places 👍
That winding mountain road reminded me a lot of driving through the Five Sisters of Kintail during the winter months on the way to Skye.
👍
I enjoyed watching the Video. One of the best SUVs you and Mrs Petrol Ped have driven 😊
Thanks! 🙂
My 2015 Outlander PHEV has both charge and save buttons. It's also a 2ltr petrol with around 25 miles electric range but not as capable off road or as expensive, but does everything I need.
I adore this car and really want to buy it. Thank you for the video and the detailed story!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Excellent video Peter, thoroughly enjoyed this one. Really love the look of the new Defender and agree this one is a stunner. Really enjoyed the mix of style in this video and how informative it was. Really must get a drive in one. Cheers Peter, well done 👏🏻😉👌🏻👍🏻
Cheers mate. Got your watch yet ?
@@PetrolPed haven’t got it yet, can’t wait to get it though 😉👌🏻
Recognised that route Ped, La Tania was our go to resort for ski trips. Seen a Xmas and a New Year there to at different times when our son was small and enjoyed it immensely. Proper xmas landscape and skiing xmas day was a highlight. Used to drive it overnight in or E Class back in the day (early 2000s) and the last drive in a Freelander 2 GS. No issues at all. There was plenty of snow in those days so disappointing to see you had none. Lovely memories.
My fav resort 👍
Excellent vehicle, the last time I drove down to Provance we were driving through a forest and an Eagle swooped down almost landing on the bonnet.
Very cool!
Great video as always Pete. Great to see Mrs PP driving. Hopefully she didn't kerb the alloys!! Love the scenery. Shame Mother Nature wasn't kind enough to let you have more snow!
Happy to report all 4 alloys survived 👍
What a fantastic way to start the year.Thank you.I really like the look of the new Defender but haven't had a chance to get up close to one yet.Have always liked Land Rover since I was young.The first car I drove was a Series 2a in the fields around the farm and I was hooked.I have always wanted one but could never justify getting one as they are so compromised on road,but now with the new one I could do it.All I need is a lottery win.Loved the vid.More like this please.
Thanks Alasdair. Lots more planned 👍
Great review, love the new defender. My old supercharged Range Rover would have similar mpg on the motorway, but that was a 5 l V8…..
Thanks for the info!
Brings back memories. What tyres were you running on? Our son was in school in Villars Switzerland for five years. We used to visit every six weeks during term time when we lived in Basel. I often watched land/range rovers spinning down the mountain road on the wrong tyres. Unfortunately a range rover went through a barrier and plunged down the side of the mountain, killing all inside. I had a BMW 5 series touring( RWD) on winter tyres. I also had a set of chains which I never had to use on that road. I remember once having to help a British couple who were stuck again wrong tyres. The road was so slippery I fell flat on my back. When I got home I told my wife what happened. She knew it was true since when she looked at my back she could see the imprint on my pullover on my back. When you go back in February make sure you have winter tyres on the vehicle and enjoy the skiing.
Yeah even 4x4s need winter tyres in snow 👍
just love the 'production' - the music so uplifting as Mr Ped was enthusiastic to do the journey and the contrast with Mrs Ped just being so "unimpressed" with him and his passion - just like a classic british comedy - - - excellent excellent work
Thanks mate. I always love getting her in a vid 👍
I think you're spot on with your Discovery comment. They should have just retired the Defender name and called it a Discovery. Way out of my price range though.
Happy new year PP family, great to have you back. Off to a great start and looking forward to what you have planned
Thanks Garry. Lots of cool stuff on the way 👍
Surprised at the fuel consumption as I know slightly more aerodynamic but…. I did Edinburgh & back - 600 miles in a RR Sport P400 PHEV & I fully charged the battery before leaving, once at Tebay Services M6 North & once at our destination in Edinburgh before our return 300 miles journey without recharging and we achieved, at 70mph both ways 50 mpg!! Absolutely brilliant! Can’t praise the car enough. I know have an I Pace but after the hassle of EV Charging over Xmas 22 with everyone it now seems running EVs (no such problem in 2021 or 2020) I would definitely by the F Pace P400 PHEV for my next car & skip halfway charging unless the infrastructure, dramatically improves.
Never been a Defender fan but really like these new ones.
I Love this new Defender Pete It looks ace . Wow such an epic trip and some beautiful backdrops. Great Review but i think you should have one for longer , Then Mrs P can drive it 😂😂🙏🙏
Absolutely
Great video as always Pete - thank you 👍
Glad you enjoyed it
Great video ped again one of the best for any potential buyer s .shame about the on road recharge not available.just a quick point would be nice to know hotel costs as would like to do a trip like this some time.
Well done here’s to more great content in 2023🎉❤.
Here are the hotels
Chateaux du Saulon, Dijon
Hotel Crillon Le Brave, near Bedion
Hotel La Chaudanne, Meribel
A very awesome looking suv! James Bond needs this! Personally I’d pick the v8 model cause a v8 is life lol. Fantastic video Sir Pete!
Thanks! 👍
..great video to start the new year Pete 👍👌...like the Provence and Mont Ventoux (remember my Leader of the Pack T 😂 at top of this mountain last summer) ...and I like the new generation Landy as well. It is a typical british car, a real icon of SUVs and that's what counts even if the petrol consuption is a little bit higher. Absolutely great 👍😎
Thanks Chap 👍
Never owned a Land Rover. I like the marque though ! Aren't they beset with reliability issues or is this a popular misconception ? I have the RAV 4 PHEV and it is delivering almost 50 miles in EV and it has a ''TRAIL mode too. The RAV has a wading depth of 18 inches! I love it ..........................but in sheer looks I LOVE the Land Rover Defender. Oh I really do 😀😀😀😀
Most brands have stories of reliability issues 🤷♂️
Great video to start the year! definitely one for the unlimited budget but looks fantastic!
It really is!
Great video Pete, good to see the family, Mrs PP is Kool. Love the Defender spec, although prices in my view are ridiculous. Keep up the great work and thanks.
They are big money for sure 😢
So very very interesting Mr & Mrs P
I’d still prefer the Discovery though as, personally , the balance between luxury and ability is better for super long journeys 🤓👍👍
Fair enough!
Everyone seems to gravitate to the Black models and colours with big wheels and skinny tyres, but I think the car looks way better dialed-back with fatter tyres, steelies, soft colours and clean (from external accessories)
I have the Evoque P300e PHEV Autobiography and the combination of electric with the turbo charged petrol engine is great. I noticed you said on the Defender that the engine can't charge the battery. On our half day at Eastnor Castle we tried the Evoque PHEV and were told that in the Mud & Ruts mode the engine will charge the battery (not something they tell you in the manual), so not sure if the Defender is different. Because on the Evoque the engine drives the front wheels and the electric the back wheels, so with the engine charging the battery, you can always have 4 wheel drive.
Save mode on the Evoque P300e does recharge the battery. I just leave it in Hybrid mode most of the time though.
I would love one of these - and an original 110 but agree the original is not good to drive in. I have a RR Sport V6 diesel which is just fantastic - always wanted an original Range Rover (and still do) but figure the Sport is way better option nowadays. Tows the caravan with ease and economical to boot. The spec on this 110 - a winch with 22 inch rims! I changed the 22 to 20 inch rims and rides so much better and can go off road now too. Great video as usual - cheers from Australia
Thanks 🙏🏻
Enjoyed the video 👍We found in our Discovery Sport that mpg on the autoroute with items such as roof boxes and doing 80mph was poor, for the DS anyway, getting around 30mpg. I think the 2.0L engines aren't the best for long miles and heavy cars. The 2nd gen JLR hybrid system is now in the new RR/RRS and seems to be mated to the 6 cylinder engines which I think will make much more sense in the Defender. I have a 130 this weekend to play with in D300 guise. Will be driving it along your favourite road in the soaking wet... It's huge!
The 130 is like a small moon 😂
Great video and they are stunning. There’s load of them out here in Qatar but fuel costs don’t matter here so most are V8’s.
Shame that the PHEV doesn’t recharge itself and hope they develop that side.
Would love to have a go of the V8 one 👌
Very thirsty beast Pete - my panamera e hybrid does double that MPG on long trips like that.
Ouch 😣
After driving several of these I'd have a 90.....v8 if being mad....diesel or phev if less mad....just makes you feel good driving one...I have driven the old one a couple of times.....very different...no room etc.....loved that too...seems I'm easily pleased...😅
At last you get to test the Defender, was looking at a 90 but the price jumped up significantly from my original quote. Drove the 110 off road when it first came out and it was quite impressive until a dash light came on after wading.
Lots of people said it should have been called the Disco 5 not a Defender.
Great to finally drive one 👍
Great video again from Team PP.👍 I just think the Gear Case Box thing would look so much better if it was the same Colour Black as the Defender, it does look out of place on the back quarter. Would I have the 110... Yes! in a heartbeat, but the all petrol version for me.I just think all that extra hybrid technical science stuff on vehicles today is just more expense if anything does wrong with it. 🤔
You could always wrap it 👍
I should mention that the thing we were most surprised with was the way the defender eats up motorways with ease and comfort, its quickly turned into one of the best cars Ive ever had.
Also , you don’t mention using eco mode ? We tried it and it definitely makes a difference, just a pity its such a faff to select it.
Oh yes 🙌
Great road trip video, lots of honest comments. This vehicle is an enigma to me, too expensive and plush to put it to work as original LR were. It is just another Chelsea tractor of sorts. If LR are Serious about electrifying their vehicles, they should have a chat with a Welshman from North Wales about electric drivetrains on 4x4 ‘s, and save themselves millions on development costs! 😎🏴👍
Moggy would be up for that 😜😂
Really enjoyed the video and love the Defender. After driving one, I bought a Discovery 5 D300, which I just love. You seem to to be on a big downer with the the D5 though 😂
Glad you enjoyed it!
Hope you both had a fantastic time and the dogs as well URBAN do a fantastic body kit for it 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
Oh they sure do 👍
Another great and informative video, great looking motor and my thoughts are it should of been the Disco 5 too, got to love the mud flaps 👍🤣
Flaps are great but should have been red 😂
@@PetrolPed I never knew you were partial to a red mud flap! 😂🤪
I have just bought the 90 3l Diesel and love the car!
Nice. I’m currently running a D300 Defender 90 as a long termer. I love it 👍
Great video, really enjoyed that. Shame there's not much re-gen going on, would be great on a mixed trip.
Agreed!
I thought the PHEV was limited on the towing capacity? I want to say only 3000kg rather than 3500 like the rest of the range.
I believe that might be the case. I must have mid-read during my research 😢
@@PetrolPed We'll let you off :D Cracking video as always chap.
I love the new Defender, but I'll be running my Disco 3 for a long time yet. On a long journey towing a Sankey trailer from Swindon to Bangor, I just averaged 28.5 mpg. Without the trailer i get 32 mpg. Not bad.
Pretty good 👍
Brilliant video Pete and interesting to see that Tracey liked as much too. I love mine and have to say that it just eats up miles so easily and comfortably. Trouble is now I need to add the pack!!
You do indeed 😜👍
That hotel near Dijon... looks mustard!
It is 👍
Not sure of the logic of “Save” mode recharging the battery? Plug-ins should always be charged from the grid. On the motorway just increases the fuel burn.
Happy New Yew Mr & Mrs PP, what a lovely adventure to have together with the Pups over New Year. Real shame about the lack of snow but yet another real life objective insight to life with the Defender and a cracker to start your 2023 content. JLR and particularly with the LR & RR brand products have created some really smart, good looking vehicles and an extremely strong customer base, despite the very well known and documented post purchase customer experience which includes 'in warranty' interactions. If they would take the time to invest and transform the customer interaction culture across the brand it would take the brand to another level. The vehicle you drove on your trip is a very stealthy, smart and cool looking thing, good enough to justify the steep price tag for those in the market for something in this category and with the budget. I do however, have a slight, but to me (and the drivers following one) an important annoyance. The rear indicator cluster is completely useless in practice and verging on the dangerous, another case of design and styling over safety and practicality in my opinion. At least it is in a separate cluster for those drivers who indicate and break simultaneously making the red and orange light illumination totally indistinguishable from each other. Just a personal point though directed at LR. Looking forward to a content filled 2023 Ped. Tipping a glass of thanks and admiration to the late, great Ken Block. We have so much to thank him for and will miss what he did for the motorsport and entertainment world and my thoughts are with his family. Desperately sad, Hoon easy KB
Yeah he will be missed 👍
Great video. Forget all the "Super" cars. That is my dream if I don't get a Cullinan first. [Before handing it back, don't forget to check the wheels!] Did I see a sock on one of the pups? I hope all is OK
You did. Just some vet wrap to stop her licking her paw. She’s fine but thanks for asking 👍
Great review, I'd have one in a heartbeat too but it wouldn't be seeing any farm yards!
You and me both!
Good video green contact really interesting 👍👍
Glad you enjoyed it
Will this fall apart like a clown car after 40K like most other Landrovers. Is the 2.0 petrol hybrid combo really big enough to lug around 2.2 tonnes? Will this be another coolant gobbling, manifold cracking, cylinder blowing nightmare of long term ownership? Would be interested in hearing from someone with 80K on the clock.
I have the carpathian grey p400e with all the toys coming .I have now waited 14 months for it
You lucky thing 👌
Great Video as always. I've had 2 SWB 90 Defenders in the Old Gen 1 shape. 1st 1 was a rare RAF SWB S3 2.25D & 2 was a Red 90 again SWB. Would really like the Gas guzzling V8 in a 90 shape again, but as you say any option atm is an expensive 1. Funny some of your drive reminded me, when I came back from Rimini in Italy via the Mont Blanc Tunnel and stopped near Macon. Not as nice as where all 4 of you stayed, but did it's job.
Love the 90. Sadly the new one is not very practical as the boot is tiny 😢
20mpg over 2000 miles is horrendous even my AMV8 did more than that, admittedly another .5mpg but still more. More importantly you were at Mont Ventoux and didn't cycle up it! Finally .....£92k......definitely a car for the average wage owner.
Gutted I couldn’t take my bike although the snow gates were closed so I wouldn’t have been able to get to they too anyway 😜
Great informative video! Jesus, 20 mpg from a hybrid. My wife has a 2016 BMW M50D, similar performance and weight. Averages 30-35 MPG... There is a way to go to call this progress.
Great video and summary 😊
Glad you liked it!
Defender looks much better than G wagon.
Hi Ped
Very interesting review. Have a sneaky admiration for the ability of early Land Rovers. Range Rovers out of my price range!
One question this car looks mean & cool on those 22” rims, but do you think they affect rude comfort?
Pete. Surely there was room to pack THE bike. You know the Blue one.
I was tempted 😂
Awesome video, looking at one of these, they seem aweomse!
Great dogs ! Surprised that neither is called (Land) Rover
😂😂😂
Great video to start 2023 with Ped! The defender is now just another expensive to be seen in city car the people who buy these in uk will never use them for the purpose they are built for and Land Rover know that it’s original concept has been lost and it’s priced OTT
Fantastic video, awesome car , even at 90k! I wonder what the wait time is on new build? 🤔
I think there are restrictions on options so spec can play a huge part in build time 👍
Best Discovery ever....
😂😂😂
Agree with you entirely about this is what rage Disco 5 should have been…. Would love one but that price! 😱 …..
Yeah…need to buy a lottery ticket 😂
@@PetrolPed lol yep I think that’s the only chance I have as well 😆 (if I do you can borrow mine when you’re down in Cornwall 👍)
I do love the looks of the defender and love that so many say it’s the car the discover 5 should have been - I’ve heard anecdotally it’s stealing sales from the disco. If I was remotely confident they had actually addressed their reliability issues I’d buy one for azure - defo my preference over a disco, especially when you look at prices of both. We used to drive down to the alps in my parents disco 1 - it’s when it came in t it’s own, especially gong up the mountain in deep snow at the end f a no day. Mum and I would swap seats at the bottom of the mountain as dad and I had driven it so much off road and was scared of driving on snow whereas dad and I were used to driving and knowing the car in extremis. We drove it one year with snow settling on motorway and it just dug its shoulder in, was amazing and didn’t skip a beat in really nasty conditions and dong 2,500 miles by time we’d done Surrey to flaine and back as well as three airport transfers.
We got home and a week later, spat it’s turbo, Intercooler, clutch, rear diff, power steering pump etc - despite service week before, with fresh everything oils etc.
It does appear to only have half an engine, as much as I like the EV bit which is nice when you can use it, stop/start traffic etc. A V6 would seem more appropriate in a vehicle that size (says the man who hasn't driven it). For comparison my Cayenne Diesel S (V8) has done up to 36mpg on a trip like that so ~1000km on a tank full.
It sounds feel or sound like a 4 pot. More like a straight 6 👍
Great video again Pete👍 fuel economy poor, we have a RRS HST 3lt petrol and use it to go to the Alps and get 30mpg. If I tow the car trailer it drops to 14😳 I guess the Defender is going to be worse than that!
Wow! Renault 25 ceased production over 30 years ago and one in pretty good condition passed you 😀
What ? 🤷♂️
An interesting, informative review as always 👍
The new Defender really appeals but quite honestly LR need to talk to Hyundai, Toyota etc etc as that Hybrid mode is frankly woeful which is a real shame as this is such a capable vehicle.
A Hybrid which does 20mpg bit of a contradiction really 😡 I hope 2023 is a great year for all 👏👍😀
Afternoon PP
Feeling better ?
Just my opinion as never I’ve driving a Defender but why did they not make it a 3 litre PHEV as surely a 2 litre petrol carrying all that weight would give poor mpg as I know someone who owns a Volvo xc90 and he’s often complaining that once battery drained not only is it poor mpg but it’s straining when car fully loaded.
Still take one tho
😀
An interesting video, particularly as I drive down to Provence every couple of years and nine months ago I bought a Range Rover Sport P400e which has the same drive train, although the hybrid battery is a little smaller than the Defender’s.
Despite that, the RRS weighs more, which is why I was surprised at your economy stats.
I’m getting 28-32 mpg on long motorway journeys (4 hours) and my daily commute of 13 miles each way is giving me 75-200 mpg depending on traffic conditions and temperature. I would have expected you to achieve similar or better; I suspect your cargo box, ladder and roof rack are what make the difference. They may look good but I think they may prove to be expensive options.
Glad you enjoyed it 👍
Great video mate
Thanks 👍
Surprised just how poor your MPG was on the trip. Back in September I took my RR Sport P400e to Lake Garda from Edinburgh (with bike in the back for Stelvio/Monte Baldo etc) and over 3,300 miles averaged 29.2 MPG................and that was with only one battery recharge on the entire trip. Like you I sat at the motorway limit for most of the trip. I'm about to order the new RR Sport, however, with the MHEV D300 and that's because the torque characteristics of the small highly tuned petrol engine just do not work well with a 2.7 ton truck. The new P440e does, to be fair, come with a much bigger capacity petrol unit so may be better suited to a car of this bulk.
I was surprised to. I’m sure the extra drag didn’t help 👎
An excellent video!
Glad you liked it!
Really I like your journey, I love p400e, in general the consopmtion what is on save mode in the highway? thank you
Yes. Save mode most of the time 👍
Good on your missus mine would have stabbed me in the neck just for asking if she would like to drive in France, needless to say she is X. Glad you said it this Defender looks to have more in common with the disco than the traditional defenders.
She’s a very good driver 👍
Definitely a pimp’s Defender. What do you guys keep in the purse holder on the right side of the car 🤔?
Charge cables or Champagne 🍾 when coming back from France 😂
Great review! I was wondering, how was your experience with the seats? They look rather basic. It looks like they can use some adjustability like 'seat extension' for your legs, but I might be wrong.
They look basic but we’re very comfortable 👌👍
Enjoyed the video thanks. An appealing car but what a bombshell 20mpg is. Can’t imagine ever buying a car with that consumption. 25 miles on electric power is nowhere near enough to be any use to me.
Tell me about it