Shame on Jeep owners who asked for money to get you out... helping others get unstuck is all part of owning a Jeep and driving on trail. Everyone helps everyone while off-road. You even had recovery gear of your own so they could have easily helped you out
They charged you? What a bunch of Dick’s. I’ve been on the receiving end of smart azz comments of my jeep I used to own, these idiots aren’t doing the brand any good....by the way, I now own a 4Runner.
Totally true, it's normally a matter of pride on pulling someone else out and considering it an investment of goodwill as sooner or later you may need a Good Samaritan !
Not true. Women and children always get a pass on removals. Dudes who don’t know how to drive need to help pay for the usage of my $3000 winch and $500 synthetic cable that they don’t own, and never let a rookie burn your maxtrax.
@@jamesmazurstudios They don’t own a winch because 99.99% of winch owners have never unspooled their own winch to begin with. My comment still stands ;) I agree about the maxtrax though! You burn it you bought it.
Right on for showing the crazy part at the end, even good drivers make mistakes. I have lots of fun watching your channel and your videos are very helpful
Extremely unfair of Ryan to b so impatient with various buttons and features of the vehicle. He is not familiar with the vehicle at all, which is a press vehicle from LR. If he bothered to familiarise himself with how things worked before he drove the vehicle, he would have known how things work. Once u get familiar with the vehicle and use features a couple of times, u then know how it works. The Defender is obviously a brilliant vehicle that has comfort, features, tech, safety, and a great daily driver, that is also hugely capable off road. Obviously u would option the vehicle to suit ur requirements, and fit proper off road tyres to give it heaps more ability off road. Great achievement. Well done LR. 👍👍
JoshuaM U clearly have NFI. There r so many gadgets in a modern vehicle, it is generally not very intuitive at all. Particularly when many things can only b done via menus, and sub menus etc on the multi function displays etc etc. U really do need to study / find out how things operate / function before u start driving the vehicle. Very dangerous to do this whilst driving an unfamiliar car, as ur eyes r off the road for ages etc and u r not watching the road whilst u scroll through various menu screens. Most new cars have this issue...
@@StephenFogarty2023 exactly why complicated systems should not be complicated. Im just speaking on general terms really. Vehicles should be intuitive out of the box. Even though you get to know its functionality, you're still taking your eyes off the road to press many buttons to do one thing. No need to bash me. Im assuming "NFI"is "no fucking intuituon" and clearly you're offended for no reason. And if im wrong then no big deal... move on.
The vehicle is far too complicated for serious off readers. ARB doesn’t even make after marker accessories for this vehicle because JLR are becoming like Apple. If you for stuck somewhere with this, barely anyone would be able to get it fixed unlike with a Toyota, Gelandewagen or a classic Defender.
I want to know where you thought you were going when it looked like you were turning in the mud pit instead of going straight?? Also what mode did you have it in when you entered the pit??
Right! He could have made it fine had he not entered at a sharp left angle. Wonder if he was distracted? Anyway...it didn't change my mind at all! A very capable vehicle for sure.
@@Pieces93 going into that situation he should have had it in mud ruts already, it would have worked way better then auto since it would have pretuned the car for what he was about to do. Expect for the left turn he made lol
I agree, especially about reliability. TFLcar bought one and it has been at the dealership for 25 days out of 30 and I believe is still there. Great review Doug!!
I have to admit, Land Rovers Discovery is an awesome off road performer, they did good! BUT... I just can’t get past the poor reliability issue. And an 8,200 pound tow rating is also excellent... if it didn’t VOID your warranty. Land Rover is a love hate relationship, I loved my Range Rover, drove nice, looked great, and very respectable off road... but in less than 2 years it had about 3 tows, 20 repairs including not so minor 2 transmission replacements, 1 transmission repair, a dozen electrical issues, and had the alternator replaced twice, starter once, and several suspension component failures. The kicker was when the transmission failed and the dealership brought out the manual which clearly stated “NOT RECOMMENDED FOR TOWING.” As well as “NOT RECOMMENDED FOR OFF-PAVEMENT USE.” (Both of which I was guilty of.) It took three weeks and my lawyer to convince them they should pay for the transmission replacement. I sold it and never looked back. The worst part is the existing reports of Defender reliability show so many issues... Land Rover has clearly not improved at all.
Sad but true. On stock road biased tyres with only 3mm of tread my D4 can go on terrain you can barely walk...but it needed a new block at 20k miles. They just don't seem to learn.
@@cmtexperts4825 - “Maintenance is high,” and so are the frequency of repairs. M Rover was under warranty, so cost of repairs were negligible. What was high was the cost of downtime and towing and rental charges which were not covered by warranty.
The Kia Sou... Sorry, the Def was sitting there on the body so simple pulling wouldn't help. As someone has already mentioned above this situation required a kinetic energy rope to literally jerk the Def out of that pit. Though imho they could try it with the available one, sometimes even a little impulse helps.
If you want to test this Defenders acceleration it actually does have a “Sport” mode . Simply move the shifter to the left . Everything changes ! The mapping is amazing.
The only off roading this will do is over the parking lot divider at the shopping mall when a soccer mom accidentally puts it in forward instead of reverse.
Or on the farm fields and tracks like my best friend in the UK so you aren't completely right at all. You are right though, many will just use it for the school run.
Like 99 percent of off-roaders, and let’s be honest, I’d much rather be on the inside of the new defender day to day driving than any other 4x4, it is sexy
it was fun to see all the experience and the profesional way you handle all this. This car helps a lot but there is some things you have to gain with experience and this is how experience is gained. it was nice to see this. I really hope there was not check engine light involved which is a normal thing for land rovers. Great cars, they just need to focus in reliability
'm an Englishman who has been driving Land Rovers products for over twenty years and can honestly say there is no place more comfortable to be.... ....whilst waiting for a tow truck!
There are not many vehicles these days that impress me . Tesla model X, a few trucks, but that’s it . I love the boxy, early 00s SUV styling of this thing . It reminds me of a luxury version of the Honda Element, which I did own (and Loved!) years ago . I hate modern curvy mini van looking SUVs .
Good review, as always, Ryan. Glad you didn't run into the reliability issues that have plagued TFL's Defender, but then again you didn't have it long enough!
TFL wasn't the only one. The german Explorer magazine took a Land Rover Defender for a few days to the alps and had some issues as well. Software problems and the air suspension didn't work anymore.
One thing I was taught when off-roading in a Series II was to keep your thumbs from inside the wheel in case it spun suddenly and broke your thumb. Mind you, you seem to be quite keen on taking both hands off and waving them about. And, you know, watch where you’re going… Maybe the screen felt slow because it was translating everything into US English for you, “Center”, and those weird Imperial measurements you’re strangely attached to 😉
Sport mode is on the gear shifter with the S icon, Put the car into drive and then slide the gearshift left into the S position, you can then change gear manually (push up up or down) or when fitted as an option with the flappy paddles on the steering wheel, but remember it is a 2ton off-roader not a Porsche bit still, it is surprisingly quicker than the older model. Also, its a press vehicle, it has the standard 20’ rims with all terrain tyres, if you went for the 19” rims you can go upto 33” off road tyres.. 18’ rims can only go on some of the models due to differing brake caliper sizes. And there is an optional winch which was not fitted to this model,
You and your grandfather must have had great times. Sounds like he was a really cool person. Both of mine were awesome, we also had tons of fun with their cars.
I get what your saying but don't forget that the 2nd one was faulty due to the mechanics cutting through a harness in order to fit a winch so it had no mechanical or electrical problems.
Can you fix laptop defender off grid in say an African village or dessert. Old one easy to fix. It's limited. Old one all the way this boring truck also takes fun out of driving. Sorry. How I feel.
@@Douganchesner can the land rover make it to 200k without any major issues ... how about 100k ... or even maybe 50k .... shit I know people who have had these in the shop in the first 20k ....
For me, I'm questioning why the off-road car and the highway cruiser needs to be the same car. I might be naive, but for that price, could you not get two cars that would each be as good or better than the Land Rover at cruising and offroading?
Imagine going to a far from you trail to use your off roader for fun and having to drive it on a highway.... or just owning a highway cruiser and suddenly needing to do some off road but your off roader is at home...
The Car has got borrowed features from the Land Rover Freelander 1.(ie: Front Facials) this Has made me fall in love with my free lander. thanks to Land Rover/Range Rover for bringing back those Old designs back in to the future
If I heard that right… She said, “It’s been fifty years in the last two weeks for me so.” Love your channel buddy…. Watch all the time, but need to spend a few days doing whatever she wants… And eating wherever she wants.
In the heydays, the tyres were neither broad nor radial(they were tall and stiff), so even though they got buried in sand, they always found the ground beneath the mud, so never got stuck in mud, unless your vehicle ran aground because of its low departure angle or ground clearance. I wonder if you'd have been able to claw your way up, had you just deflated the tyres? Or would that have caused the vehicle to run aground at the belly? Back in the 1980s, while on a duck-shoot, I got stuck in very shallow marshes with an Isuzu Trooper because it had these massive Desert Dueler sand tyres, and it had to be towed out by a tiny Suzuki jeep, just because its tyres were narrow enough to cut through sand and the tyres and the vehicle were high enough for it to not run aground at the belly.
I’m sure if I asked, she would have jumped into the mud to get the stones under the rig. But that would have really messed up the interior of the LR on the ride back - her covered in mud and all.
Please consider reviewing this vehicle again on your new course. And maybe spend a little more time learning how the controls work before filming. Enjoyed this review!
0:41 As Hamster said, the new Defender looks more like a Disco than the new Discos or words to that affect? I agree. Thankfully the new Defender should result in older Defenders depreciating less too? The new Disco looks like the Range Rover Evoque too. Very timid Land Rover design person.
Best review I've watched on this thing (which is kind of growing on me for some reason). And your grandfather sounds like the kind of person who needs a proper biography! I'd certainly read it :)
Well it looks like you found the limit of what the Discovery was capable of. It was great that Karleena got the invite to do this review with you, she always has such good energy and she is as cute as can be.
I don't pay much attention to the price or the looks, but I want a vehicle that is capable and reliable and not terribly uncomfortable. Automatic all-wheel-independent traction control and suspension are what really matter. The other thing would the be the angles of departures and arrivals and inclines. It also helps if one can inflate and deflate the tyres, while one's on the move. I don't care much for horsepower, but torque does help with off-road performance. I've generally preferred diesel engines for their torque and fording ability. During the 1980's, I mostly used Land Rovers Defenders(those were the only kind then, although there were Range Rovers), Toyota Land Cruisers, Nissan Patrols and Isuzu Troopers, with the differential locks, but without turbo engines. Do the turbos work well in sandy and dusty conditions or do the filters clog up? Of course, 6X6 vehicles aren't easy to run aground over humps and ridges, but which one of the 4X4 vehicles, in your opinion, are the most capable, reliable, and durable with the least systems that can malfunction, fail, or clog up? I don't care about the number of systems or their complexity, provided they don't fail that is why I would generally favor Mercedes, Land Rover and, perhaps, even Land Cruiser over others. Hummer, of course, is a monster, but too broad for cramped streets. This is a crossover, so it does help to lower the suspension for a lower center of gravity when cornering over the highway.
The Land Rover is more of a luxury pretty boy street machine, rather than an off road vehicle. People need to understand that vehicle like these, for even while driving on snow and icy roads, chains are required to help get through the process. The tires on this vehicle, in that mud and water does nothing. But yes I agree, anyone with an common sense help others for the purpose of helping. Never ask for money. Just pass, even if late in the day, eventually a true off roader will help for the sake of helping another. As for the depth and angle that you were driving this vehicle on, having a wench was highly needed and another vehicle or two to help out as you had. Its a fun looking back experience to learn from.
Jamaica’s highest mountain range is called the Blue Mountains. Once, me and my friends hiked to the top. After a certain height the only vehicles you see are Land Rovers. Some look like they were manufactured in the 60s. It looks like a Land Rover’s graveyard in certain parts
Want to do exactly this with my wife, in Northern California, Oregon, Washington State, Canada, and the Smokey Mountains. My legs are not currently in any condition to walk anywhere, don’t know if they will ever be. If she were my wife, would want her to love this stuff just like me. Splitting the driving time. Enjoying one another, and beautiful world God created. Staying in remote cabins here and there, and sometimes positioning the back of the vehicle for a beautiful sunset view, talking all night. Then sleeping together on a special mattress fitted specifically for the back of the Defender.
Thank you for showing objectively how miserable a very expensive British overlander can be: True automotive journalism! I would rather keep my very comfortable 2018 Subaru Outback with its true 31 MPG combined !
Whenever I want to understand the offroad capabilities for a vehicle, i check your reviews. Waiting for you to get hands on the new Lexus 550 because I am looking forward to buying it. Btw, what road did you film the initial offroad (forest road) drive in (right befor the rock trail started)? It lovely and I would like to drive to it
Karleena seems like an ideal travel companion. She seems to, "go with the flow", doesn't complain, and she's not afraid to get dirty. Different strokes..........and all that, but for +$70,000, the only SUV I want either has a Toyota or Lexus badge on it. It's the combination of little annoyances, like not knowing which drive mode you're in, having to remove plastic cladding to access the tow hooks, etc. that just don't make sense to me on a $70,000 "off-road" vehicle.
Apart from the mud pit, my 1997 2WD Mitsubishi Lancer can easily tackle those mountain roads. I live in Africa and I have subjected to worse roads and muddy conditions and gotten out by the skin of my teeth. By the way, I love this new defender. My dad owned a 1971 Landrover and I am carrying on the family tradition of getting myself this new one. Love your honest reviews totally
Shame on Jeep owners who asked for money to get you out... helping others get unstuck is all part of owning a Jeep and driving on trail. Everyone helps everyone while off-road. You even had recovery gear of your own so they could have easily helped you out
Totally agree.
What!!! I must have missed him saying that. What dicks! Ppl go there for the same reasons and helping each other out is part of it
It's a sponsored review.
You help the people who are out there having fun and enjoy nature for free.
@@rsmnh7892 wrong way of thinking 😔
They charged you? What a bunch of Dick’s. I’ve been on the receiving end of smart azz comments of my jeep I used to own, these idiots aren’t doing the brand any good....by the way, I now own a 4Runner.
The Jeep guys didn't want to be shown on camera because they knew that accepting money was a douche move.
They probably only asked because it was a Land Rover and didn't think these guys belonged on their playground.
They saw 💰 nice cameras and land rover
If the one got stuck is a jeep. He would pull out. He doesn’t like Land Rover competing with Jeep
Welcome to the Pacific Northwest, land of super nice and super rude people, never in between
I’ve never asked for money to pull someone out, and wouldn’t except if offered
No self respecting off roader accepts money to recover a simple stuck like that.
Totally true, it's normally a matter of pride on pulling someone else out and considering it an investment of goodwill as sooner or later you may need a Good Samaritan !
Welcome to America 2016-2020
I was disgusted.
Not true. Women and children always get a pass on removals. Dudes who don’t know how to drive need to help pay for the usage of my $3000 winch and $500 synthetic cable that they don’t own, and never let a rookie burn your maxtrax.
@@jamesmazurstudios They don’t own a winch because 99.99% of winch owners have never unspooled their own winch to begin with. My comment still stands ;) I agree about the maxtrax though! You burn it you bought it.
I like that you really go after it! Even when you could fail. That makes it all the more informative and entertaining. Cheers!
Hey why is your name__.
I like that you really go after it!Even when you could fail.
"Time to call Land Rover... by the way your Defender is awesome..."
Hey mom, I just want to say you look really great today!
Also, I was playing baseball inside and I might have kinda sorta broke a lamp
Too funny.
"Super easy, barely an inconvenience!" Quote of the video 😂
It's by Ryan George
Oh wow wow wow wow waoh
Best episode ever. You finally did some real off reading instead of just minor gravel road with a few holes in it. Bravo.
jesus cliff you are easily amused
Right on for showing the crazy part at the end, even good drivers make mistakes. I have lots of fun watching your channel and your videos are very helpful
Extremely unfair of Ryan to b so impatient with various buttons and features of the vehicle. He is not familiar with the vehicle at all, which is a press vehicle from LR. If he bothered to familiarise himself with how things worked before he drove the vehicle, he would have known how things work. Once u get familiar with the vehicle and use features a couple of times, u then know how it works. The Defender is obviously a brilliant vehicle that has comfort, features, tech, safety, and a great daily driver, that is also hugely capable off road. Obviously u would option the vehicle to suit ur requirements, and fit proper off road tyres to give it heaps more ability off road. Great achievement. Well done LR. 👍👍
You should be able to intuitively use the vehicle out the box tho...
JoshuaM U clearly have NFI. There r so many gadgets in a modern vehicle, it is generally not very intuitive at all. Particularly when many things can only b done via menus, and sub menus etc on the multi function displays etc etc. U really do need to study / find out how things operate / function before u start driving the vehicle. Very dangerous to do this whilst driving an unfamiliar car, as ur eyes r off the road for ages etc and u r not watching the road whilst u scroll through various menu screens. Most new cars have this issue...
@@StephenFogarty2023 exactly why complicated systems should not be complicated. Im just speaking on general terms really. Vehicles should be intuitive out of the box. Even though you get to know its functionality, you're still taking your eyes off the road to press many buttons to do one thing. No need to bash me. Im assuming "NFI"is "no fucking intuituon" and clearly you're offended for no reason. And if im wrong then no big deal... move on.
The vehicle is far too complicated for serious off readers. ARB doesn’t even make after marker accessories for this vehicle because JLR are becoming like Apple. If you for stuck somewhere with this, barely anyone would be able to get it fixed unlike with a Toyota, Gelandewagen or a classic Defender.
There’s a learning curve to any Luxury vehicle due to heavy tech. You’d know that if at the level.
Roman Mica loves LR reliability😜
🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂
roman mica he a drunkard lol
@The Fast Lane Car
Did you see they're on their third one? 🤣
"Super easy, barely an inconvenience." 🤣
I want to know where you thought you were going when it looked like you were turning in the mud pit instead of going straight?? Also what mode did you have it in when you entered the pit??
It would of been auto terrain response (most likely) very clever systems in the land rovers/defenders.
Right! He could have made it fine had he not entered at a sharp left angle. Wonder if he was distracted? Anyway...it didn't change my mind at all! A very capable vehicle for sure.
@@Pieces93 going into that situation he should have had it in mud ruts already, it would have worked way better then auto since it would have pretuned the car for what he was about to do. Expect for the left turn he made lol
@@DavidAlanReece yup. Very good chance he could have got out the other side if he went straight
LR Breakdown mode !! ;)
Now this, after many attempts, is a real (yet highly unreliable) off-road vehicle! Well done!
I agree, especially about reliability. TFLcar bought one and it has been at the dealership for 25 days out of 30 and I believe is still there.
Great review Doug!!
I have to admit, Land Rovers Discovery is an awesome off road performer, they did good! BUT... I just can’t get past the poor reliability issue. And an 8,200 pound tow rating is also excellent... if it didn’t VOID your warranty. Land Rover is a love hate relationship, I loved my Range Rover, drove nice, looked great, and very respectable off road... but in less than 2 years it had about 3 tows, 20 repairs including not so minor 2 transmission replacements, 1 transmission repair, a dozen electrical issues, and had the alternator replaced twice, starter once, and several suspension component failures. The kicker was when the transmission failed and the dealership brought out the manual which clearly stated “NOT RECOMMENDED FOR TOWING.” As well as “NOT RECOMMENDED FOR OFF-PAVEMENT USE.” (Both of which I was guilty of.) It took three weeks and my lawyer to convince them they should pay for the transmission replacement. I sold it and never looked back. The worst part is the existing reports of Defender reliability show so many issues... Land Rover has clearly not improved at all.
Sad but true. On stock road biased tyres with only 3mm of tread my D4 can go on terrain you can barely walk...but it needed a new block at 20k miles. They just don't seem to learn.
i disagree I got my 2018 range my 2021 defender and a 2008 sport
yes the maintenance is high but I never faced any problem at all
@@cmtexperts4825 - “Maintenance is high,” and so are the frequency of repairs. M Rover was under warranty, so cost of repairs were negligible. What was high was the cost of downtime and towing and rental charges which were not covered by warranty.
@@Erin-Thor what
Normal service
Fuel cost
Oil change
That's it in maintaince
@@Erin-Thor and i said maintenance for my 2008 rover coz it's out of warranty and normal service is expensive
That's what these rigs are made for, glad you aren't afraid to show real world capabilities in your reviews.
Great off road video. I'm surprised the Tacoma wasn't able to get it on it's own, but great to defender on an actual off road challenge.
The Kia Sou... Sorry, the Def was sitting there on the body so simple pulling wouldn't help. As someone has already mentioned above this situation required a kinetic energy rope to literally jerk the Def out of that pit. Though imho they could try it with the available one, sometimes even a little impulse helps.
If you want to test this Defenders acceleration it actually does have a “Sport” mode . Simply move the shifter to the left . Everything changes ! The mapping is amazing.
I love that you push it to the limit it made the video entertaining and real - this is good stuff.
He didn't push it to the limit, he just made a mistake and got it stuck.
Great video showing the capabilities of the Defender while being humble enough to share your learning experience with us
Bring back the classic DEFENDER ! That's the true and best rover ever !
Super easy barely an inconvenience, pitch meeting reference. nice
Instant sub after you said "super easy, barely an inconvenience"😂😂
The only off roading this will do is over the parking lot divider at the shopping mall when a soccer mom accidentally puts it in forward instead of reverse.
rodeo drive to the valet park in a high end ski resort
Or on the farm fields and tracks like my best friend in the UK so you aren't completely right at all. You are right though, many will just use it for the school run.
Like 99 percent of off-roaders, and let’s be honest, I’d much rather be on the inside of the new defender day to day driving than any other 4x4, it is sexy
That was a fun video to watch. Thanks for not playing it safe and just going for it. That's what these vehicles are meant for.
it was fun to see all the experience and the profesional way you handle all this. This car helps a lot but there is some things you have to gain with experience and this is how experience is gained. it was nice to see this. I really hope there was not check engine light involved which is a normal thing for land rovers. Great cars, they just need to focus in reliability
best off road review ever most don't even come close to off road tests and this was so true to life amazing job and amazing defender
'm an Englishman who has been driving Land Rovers products for over twenty years and can honestly say there is no place more comfortable to be....
....whilst waiting for a tow truck!
There are not many vehicles these days that impress me . Tesla model X, a few trucks, but that’s it . I love the boxy, early 00s SUV styling of this thing . It reminds me of a luxury version of the Honda Element, which I did own (and Loved!) years ago . I hate modern curvy mini van looking SUVs .
Great review of the defender! One of the best I’ve seen.
Thank you for actually going to the limit. There is a need to mix whistling diesel with tfl.
Good review, as always, Ryan.
Glad you didn't run into the reliability issues that have plagued TFL's Defender, but then again you didn't have it long enough!
We were prepared, but the LR was shockingly reliable for the week we had it.
If it's good enough for Doug Demuro, it's good enough for me.
@@drivingsports you know you are driving a landrover when you have a week of no issues and call it "shockingly reliable"
TFL wasn't the only one. The german Explorer magazine took a Land Rover Defender for a few days to the alps and had some issues as well. Software problems and the air suspension didn't work anymore.
You can get a 7 year 100K warranty
Couldn’t wait for you to review the new Defender. Should get those old ones and get them running!
I'd love to take 1 off his hands n get it restored
One thing I was taught when off-roading in a Series II was to keep your thumbs from inside the wheel in case it spun suddenly and broke your thumb. Mind you, you seem to be quite keen on taking both hands off and waving them about. And, you know, watch where you’re going…
Maybe the screen felt slow because it was translating everything into US English for you, “Center”, and those weird Imperial measurements you’re strangely attached to 😉
Was waiting for your review.
Sport mode is on the gear shifter with the S icon, Put the car into drive and then slide the gearshift left into the S position, you can then change gear manually (push up up or down) or when fitted as an option with the flappy paddles on the steering wheel, but remember it is a 2ton off-roader not a Porsche bit still, it is surprisingly quicker than the older model.
Also, its a press vehicle, it has the standard 20’ rims with all terrain tyres, if you went for the 19” rims you can go upto 33” off road tyres.. 18’ rims can only go on some of the models due to differing brake caliper sizes.
And there is an optional winch which was not fitted to this model,
actual testing starts at 31:50
You and your grandfather must have had great times. Sounds like he was a really cool person. Both of mine were awesome, we also had tons of fun with their cars.
Nice review and welcome back Karleena
Everything before 32:07 could be driven in a 1985 Honda Civic.
So true
Love the video ❤ finally some real action 🎬
Karleena is not afraid to get dirty.. good video 📹 👍 👌 👏 🙌
*I would get one, but after seeing the issues TFL is having right now, I’ll pass. Still though, great review bro !*
I get what your saying but don't forget that the 2nd one was faulty due to the mechanics cutting through a harness in order to fit a winch so it had no mechanical or electrical problems.
They have so many issues ... just get a 4runner for half the cost and more utility
Can you fix laptop defender off grid in say an African village or dessert. Old one easy to fix. It's limited. Old one all the way this boring truck also takes fun out of driving. Sorry. How I feel.
stunts22 more utility eh? Can the the 4Runner tow over 8000 lbs.
@@Douganchesner can the land rover make it to 200k without any major issues ... how about 100k ... or even maybe 50k .... shit I know people who have had these in the shop in the first 20k ....
Can’t wait to hear about reliability on these rigs
For me, I'm questioning why the off-road car and the highway cruiser needs to be the same car. I might be naive, but for that price, could you not get two cars that would each be as good or better than the Land Rover at cruising and offroading?
Not really - at half the price you won't find anything that compares
Imagine going to a far from you trail to use your off roader for fun and having to drive it on a highway.... or just owning a highway cruiser and suddenly needing to do some off road but your off roader is at home...
@@tattttu9 fact😂
Oh, so you'll drive 2 at the same time. 🤣🤣
Great review and loved hearing about your grand dad. He sounds like an amazing man.
All the technology in the world isn’t a substitute for experience and knowledge. Most of that trail could’ve been accomplished with a 2wd.
True 😂
whats good way to learn? videos etc?
Love the Fifth Element reference :)
This is the proper way to test a vehicle, note to self install better tires and a winch.
Ryan, you are awesome brother!!! 👍🙅🏻♂️🧿 Don’t sweat little things - you got this.
The Car has got borrowed features from the Land Rover Freelander 1.(ie: Front Facials) this Has made me fall in love with my free lander. thanks to Land Rover/Range Rover for bringing back those Old designs back in to the future
I think if you’re going to attempt going off road you need to make sure you have tires that would at least give you some chance
or bring along a buddy with a Landcruiser.
@@arunmfive or just a normal land rover
@@josh256m8 Not if you wanna come back.
@@arunmfive how so. Only if you take shit care of your car
@@arunmfive landcruisers aren’t as capable off road
If I heard that right… She said, “It’s been fifty years in the last two weeks for me so.” Love your channel buddy…. Watch all the time, but need to spend a few days doing whatever she wants… And eating wherever she wants.
In the heydays, the tyres were neither broad nor radial(they were tall and stiff), so even though they got buried in sand, they always found the ground beneath the mud, so never got stuck in mud, unless your vehicle ran aground because of its low departure angle or ground clearance.
I wonder if you'd have been able to claw your way up, had you just deflated the tyres? Or would that have caused the vehicle to run aground at the belly?
Back in the 1980s, while on a duck-shoot, I got stuck in very shallow marshes with an Isuzu Trooper because it had these massive Desert Dueler sand tyres, and it had to be towed out by a tiny Suzuki jeep, just because its tyres were narrow enough to cut through sand and the tyres and the vehicle were high enough for it to not run aground at the belly.
Damn!!! Karleena narc-ed on you with the quickness...after watching her promos thought she wouldve snatched it out by hand!
I’m sure if I asked, she would have jumped into the mud to get the stones under the rig. But that would have really messed up the interior of the LR on the ride back - her covered in mud and all.
It is a they say: “LAND ROVER will get you there, but it won’t get you back” 😂😂😂
By the way you are my favorite vehicle review channel. Requesting a review of the 2024 Range Rover 130 Outbound.
Nice vehicle and review but given the choice I’d still take a Land Cruiser.
Please consider reviewing this vehicle again on your new course. And maybe spend a little more time learning how the controls work before filming. Enjoyed this review!
first time to see you get your hands dirty... what a surprise! Good job! Oh her final speech is epic.
0:41 As Hamster said, the new Defender looks more like a Disco than the new Discos or words to that affect? I agree. Thankfully the new Defender should result in older Defenders depreciating less too? The new Disco looks like the Range Rover Evoque too. Very timid Land Rover design person.
Best review I've watched on this thing (which is kind of growing on me for some reason).
And your grandfather sounds like the kind of person who needs a proper biography! I'd certainly read it :)
Go watch TFL before you purchase
Well it looks like you found the limit of what the Discovery was capable of. It was great that Karleena got the invite to do this review with you, she always has such good energy and she is as cute as can be.
Ready for this to go viral lol
A “real” reveiew thoroughly enjoyed. Karleen has full immunity!!!
I don't pay much attention to the price or the looks, but I want a
vehicle that is capable and reliable and not terribly uncomfortable.
Automatic all-wheel-independent traction control and suspension are what
really matter.
The other thing would the be the angles of departures and arrivals and
inclines.
It also helps if one can inflate and deflate the tyres, while one's on
the move.
I don't care much for horsepower, but torque does help with off-road
performance.
I've generally preferred diesel engines for their torque and fording
ability.
During the 1980's, I mostly used Land Rovers Defenders(those were the
only kind then, although there were Range Rovers), Toyota Land Cruisers,
Nissan Patrols and Isuzu Troopers, with the differential locks, but
without turbo engines.
Do the turbos work well in sandy and dusty conditions or do the filters
clog up?
Of course, 6X6 vehicles aren't easy to run aground over humps and
ridges, but which one of the 4X4 vehicles, in your opinion, are the most
capable, reliable, and durable with the least systems that can
malfunction, fail, or clog up?
I don't care about the number of systems or their complexity, provided
they don't fail that is why I would generally favor Mercedes, Land Rover
and, perhaps, even Land Cruiser over others. Hummer, of course, is a
monster, but too broad for cramped streets.
This is a crossover, so it does help to lower the suspension for a lower
center of gravity when cornering over the highway.
Love the review!
I really enjoy your offroad reviews, good stuff.
Crazy i had the same problem on a deep mud ditch Had to call the LandRover road assistance for help . Other than that i love my truck
Best keep commercial ever.
I would like Ryan to do one on the ranger raptor
If you want to go off road choose a Land Rover, if you want to come back choose a Land Cruiser.
Karleena, plus Land Rover Defender 110 makes this your best episode ever! You should have her along more! She’s beautiful.
Just recently discovered this channel and i think you really put these cars to off road tests that matter
Beautiful work guys
Your Grandfather and I would have have been great friends! Cheers Sir, great review. I daily drive a 1986 Series 3.
As always, great job on the review. Thanks for getting it dirty!
Excellent Review we really like this kind of challenges it revels the true vehicle capabilities , thank you
The Land Rover is more of a luxury pretty boy street machine, rather than an off road vehicle. People need to understand that vehicle like these, for even while driving on snow and icy roads, chains are required to help get through the process. The tires on this vehicle, in that mud and water does nothing. But yes I agree, anyone with an common sense help others for the purpose of helping. Never ask for money. Just pass, even if late in the day, eventually a true off roader will help for the sake of helping another. As for the depth and angle that you were driving this vehicle on, having a wench was highly needed and another vehicle or two to help out as you had. Its a fun looking back experience to learn from.
you call that a river !
im glad you left this video truthful and didn't make this the most off road capable It was truthful
please restore your grandfather's defenders.
Jamaica’s highest mountain range is called the Blue Mountains. Once, me and my friends hiked to the top. After a certain height the only vehicles you see are Land Rovers. Some look like they were manufactured in the 60s. It looks like a Land Rover’s graveyard in certain parts
Cheers from Honduras!
Sport Mode is on the auto gear leaver. That is a 3 litre. Not bad acceleration. My old Evoque was a pretty scary 290bhp and 0-60 in 6 seconds.
I wish they’d make a full BEV version. Would be brilliant
Want to do exactly this with my wife, in Northern California, Oregon, Washington State, Canada, and the Smokey Mountains. My legs are not currently in any condition to walk anywhere, don’t know if they will ever be. If she were my wife, would want her to love this stuff just like me. Splitting the driving time. Enjoying one another, and beautiful world God created. Staying in remote cabins here and there, and sometimes positioning the back of the vehicle for a beautiful sunset view, talking all night. Then sleeping together on a special mattress fitted specifically for the back of the Defender.
"Mooooolteee paaaaass" that's what I say in my head when I use a pass in the metro or when skiing. LOL
Thank you for showing objectively how miserable a very expensive British overlander can be: True automotive journalism! I would rather keep my very comfortable 2018 Subaru Outback with its true 31 MPG combined !
this guy has great cheerful spirit very positive
The only off-roading this will do is by constantly being in the garage (off road) getting fixed
Any news on if you’ll be reviewing a Cherokee Trailhawk soon?
A stylish off-road car!! 😍👍
Is there a button to turn off the check engine light WHEN it comes on?
Whenever I want to understand the offroad capabilities for a vehicle, i check your reviews. Waiting for you to get hands on the new Lexus 550 because I am looking forward to buying it. Btw, what road did you film the initial offroad (forest road) drive in (right befor the rock trail started)? It lovely and I would like to drive to it
Fully fledged member of the 40psi club
Not the only review of the new defender that got stuck. Think it's the wheel choice rather than vehicle capability. Nice review though!
My dad used to tie wood blocks on the brake and accelerator pedals. 😅
Karleena seems like an ideal travel companion. She seems to, "go with the flow", doesn't complain, and she's not afraid to get dirty.
Different strokes..........and all that, but for +$70,000, the only SUV I want either has a Toyota or Lexus badge on it. It's the combination of little annoyances, like not knowing which drive mode you're in, having to remove plastic cladding to access the tow hooks, etc. that just don't make sense to me on a $70,000 "off-road" vehicle.
Apart from the mud pit, my 1997 2WD Mitsubishi Lancer can easily tackle those mountain roads. I live in Africa and I have subjected to worse roads and muddy conditions and gotten out by the skin of my teeth. By the way, I love this new defender. My dad owned a 1971 Landrover and I am carrying on the family tradition of getting myself this new one. Love your honest reviews totally
Update on the defender? Any issues? Might get one
my '97 Landcruiser does this with ease...
Yeah It's pretty hard to stop an HDJ80
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Ohhh sorry didn't know.