This front office has no plan. There's no "program" they now expressly claimed one they did when Hurley was their choice. Rob is clueless and Jeanie's the only one who believes he's great.
AK- way to keep Geeter and Bres in line last night! I'm hopeful that JJ gets the assistants to learn on the fly (Brooks is a great start as a lead). Fingers crossed for him and the team heading into the free agency/trade season.
The vision here is Steve Kerr/Erik Spoelstra like, they faced a lot of media adversity too. Building a system like they have takes trust and patience. Jeanie and Rob that are the ones more likely to crumble under the media pressure rather than JJ, he doesn’t care. Wishing him all the best!
How do we measure JJ's performance?.... Simple He's already cleared the bar by a mile if you're comparing him to Darwin Ham who 1. lost the locker room completely to the point where not a single player, not one spoke a positive word or 2 about him thrub out the past season. 2. He was way over his head when it comes to Xs and Os strategy, game management, rotations etc 3. Complete lack of accountability was obvious in his media addresses... JJs going to be Red Auerbach or Pat Rilry compared to Ham in the above aspects But if you're going to measure JJ on championship or bust... Then you know he's already lost that battle with the current roster. So, the way you measure JJ is 1. Have the young talent have shown growth and maturity within a system and team identity? 2. Can JJ produce wins by out-scheming the opponent more often than not? 3. How well he uses the depth and talent on this team in the right roles?.. The "Alfreds" as he likes to call them. 4. How much he's able to get getb his stars to take the regular season seriously without f***ing around while not wearing them out. If he can get this team to a 2nd rd or conf finals, it will be a smashing success for JJ realistically with this roster
well at least JJ will actually call plays and timeouts, not put his hands in his pockets, JJ has a great basketball mind, give him a chance like any other new employee
Andy -- 4 years for a coach that has ZERO experience is a great deal of confidence in the potential of that coach. And from Reddick's perspective, if this is a dumpster fire, 4 years isn't an eternity. But, if it works, the Lakers will no doubt extend the contract a couple of years into it. If coaching doesn't work, broadcasting will ALWAYS be there for JJ. 4 years in NO WAY undercuts JJ.
Like I said during the show, in a vacuum, totally agree. It would arguably be an overly generous deal. But given the Lakers’ history of impatience (and frankly, neither knowing what they want in a coach or even valuing the position in the first place), that specific context changes the equation. To me, at least. It’s a very unusually weird set of circumstances. Appreciate you watching. AK
I don't agree with you guys that this wasn't a thorough process. Seems to me you have been trying to push this theory since the start and just keeps trying to prop it up even if the facts prove differently. More facts please.
Oh, thank the Heavens for press releases. God forbid, anyone should, actually, put forth any real effort at journalism and critical analysis. What else does the script direct you to echo?
It does sound a touch like the front office can't win with the media at times. Previously the critiscm was that there's no process, they're railroading to Reddick too quickly, without due process, and by now the accusation is that they've taken too long, dithered around, which is being dubbed as indecision.
Pelinka messed this one up too. He's an awful GM. Coaching turnover every 2 years. Roster turnover every single offseason. Zero team continuity or chemistry. The Westbrook trade was a bad decision from the start. Everyone seemed to see that, BUT Pelinka. Not resigning Caruso. Trading Kuz. Getting FLEECED in EVERY SINGLE TRADE by better, more experienced GMs. Just an unmitigated disaster as a GM in every way.. Lakers hired a GM with ZERO experience and it's led to the Lakers becoming a joke. Now Pelinka is hiring a coach with ZERO experience. In 3 years, when Lebron retires and the Lakers have literally no viable young players to build around, this team will be irrelevant and will be a perennial Lottery team for the next decade and due to Pelinka's ineptitude.
JJ could be totally fine, but really feel like the lakers greatest obstacle is the same one they've been trying to overcome most of the last decade. Robb sucks at his job, and has zero accountability. Even IF Reddick is a good coach, that albatross may ruin everything else.
Rob Pelinka is the man they should have replaced, not the coach, as a resident of So Cal most of my 74 years, the Laker management pulled another faux pas. makes me want to root for the C;ippers, a team I cannot stand
Pelinka had no experience when he was hired by clueless Jeanie. So he has no qualms hiring peopke like ham and jj with no experience as head coach and 4 years too long. We are still paying ham for 2 years. Next season will be a gamble. This assured that our highest ceiling is less than last season.
Damn I thought getting a coach would stop all the whining that's been going on. Damn season just ended and people been crying for weeks about hiring a coach. When you were already told by Riddick himself after the finals. Yet yall still continued to cry. It don't take a genius to figure out Hurley just came out the blue. And now since the coach has been named yall still crying about the past. Let's move on. Thanks Gentlemen
This isn’t something to be proud of. He may win now because he has LeBron and Davis. This shouldn’t have been the coach. Please stop disrespecting Pat Riley because he doesn’t have anything that comes close to reminding us of Pat Riley.
Let me ask you a question. Can you tell me any other team that showed any type of activity or interest around hiring Reddick? Okay, another question. Is there any other coaching candidate that showed active interest in the Lakers job? The answer to both of those is no. That tells you a lot.
Andy when you feel you need to explain AD stature it's over.Lebron will end up leading the team in pts and assists at 40 again because AD soft.He the same dude Shaq and Barkley was laughing at for being in a wheelchair.He just not that dude...75% of his pts come from bunnies and oops from LBJ passes. He's no Hakeem you can give the ball to on the post constantly.Funny how AD keep fooling Laker fans every yr...if he the leader of your team you not winning
Well, I don't personally agree with your overall assessment of AD (and FWIW, he scored more total points than LeBron, despite averaging fewer attempts per game and essentially no threes), but in certain respects, it doesn't even matter whether we agree. Everything you're saying about AD may (or may not) be true, but the fact remains, the way this team is currently constructed, he is their best, most important player. That's the setup. You know what I mean? It's hard to dispute. What to do with that is a different question, but them's still the facts. Appreciate you watching. AK
@@LockedOnLakers LBJ shot 1 more attempt per game than AD🤷 Does Luka taking 5 more attempts per game than LBJ make him better?? I mean the numbers say LBJ way more efficient than Luka in field goal percentage to the 3ball yet being less ball dominant than Luka. Is Luka better??...he will never make an all defensive team like other greats.You can't just say someone is better when the numbers and respect around the league say other wise
@@logicalbrother You’re missing my point. I never said LeBron taking more shots per game made him better or worse than AD. I brought it up because you originally made it sound like LeBron was carrying a much greater scoring lift above AD’s, and that’s not really true. Their scoring is essentially identical on the season. And your LeBron/Luka comp is just a strawman argument, because I never claimed that “higher FGA = greater player.” I was simply pointing out how the amount of shots you take will affect your total points scored on the season, which is just obvious and hard to dispute. If you don’t agree with me that AD is the better, more important player on the Lakers than LeBron at this stage of their respective careers, then fine. Don’t agree with me. Disagreement is great. But you’re not gonna disprove me by shooting down points I never made in the first place. AK
I’m not trying to find “drama.” I’m looking at a decade-plus long history. To me, it doesn’t read like the commitment I find necessary given their history. As I said, in a vacuum, the contract is fine. But when it comes to the Lakers and coaches, life ain’t a vacuum. Context matters. A lot. Appreciate you watching. AK
Andy is always so negative. JJ will do fine. Listen to him talk about all the subtle details of the game. He's at least 25 IQ points smarter than Ham. The biggest threat to JJ is him being blamed for the Lakers being in 11 place, when the obvious cause is a regressed 40 year old "superstar". We all know Bron is a coach killer and NEVER takes the blame.
Not a fan of this hire unless it is primarily for the post LeBron era. The Lakers always go for the splashy hire when good and competent is probably all you need to be successful, case in point Frank Vogel who was their fourth choice. The last big swing like Luke didn't work out. Personally, I don't think the Lakers should have even considered candidates who didn't have head coaching experience. I was against the Ham hiring last time and thought Stotts would have been a much better option. Heck, Scott Brooks would be a better win now option. My only hope is that they are invested in JJ and ride this out even if the next two years are a mess.
We will see how this works out, but with LeBron potentially being a free agent... Maybe he can take a contact where he takes a discount, saving the Lakers money to bring in more talent so the team can win another championship just like Ohtani did with the Dodgers.
Hey guys. With JJ as the new coach, you know who I wanna see on the Lakers next year? CP3. I think that's a great match. CP3 coming off the bench in a JJ offense with LeBron off-ball, with AD in the post, I think there's some fun to be had there.
JJ will end up being a great hire. He is a basketball junkie and he’s been studying and breaking down the game for a while. People who think he got this job cuz of pod with Lebron are just simpleminded and haven’t been paying attention.
Typical media (and fan) groupthink. None of the Lakers' last 7 coaches have worked out, so why not give JJ a try if they think he can be successful? Surround him with great assistants and boost his confidence (fans and Lakers media), instead of acting like he has no chance. Also, the FO can show confidence in JJ in their press conference.
Andy is STILL stuck on Hurley, a candidate no one was thinking about until the Lakers considered him. Get over it, already. If Hurley was serious and didn't want to just coach kids he would've presented the NUMBER he wanted like any other adult in a negotiation. He didn't cause it wouldn't be realistic. Hurley wasn't ready for THIS level of basketball or the Lakers. Period.
What’s up all you JJ Reddick fanboys 82-0 LFG!!!
thats me!!!
I'm watching on Andy on ACCESS SPORTNET now!!!! Anyway, great show guys!! 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾💯💯
Appreciate it! Thanks so much! AK
Lebron and JJ gonna breakdown in their podcast how they got smoked by the Nuggets lmao 😂😅
😂😂😂😂 Can’t wait!
He's never been a coach but he's always been well prepared unlike ham who has been a coach yet was never prepared
JJ will be coach of the year next season!
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This front office has no plan. There's no "program" they now expressly claimed one they did when Hurley was their choice. Rob is clueless and Jeanie's the only one who believes he's great.
Just because he was Kobe’s agent doesn’t make him a great GM
AK- way to keep Geeter and Bres in line last night! I'm hopeful that JJ gets the assistants to learn on the fly (Brooks is a great start as a lead). Fingers crossed for him and the team heading into the free agency/trade season.
Geeter and Brez are my guys! They’re the best! AK
So sick of lebum only good thing is if this doesnt work out they wont have anyone else to blame and can kick rocks
Your dad isnt your real dad
I'm concerned about a first coaching job being the Lakers. I'm concerned with AD & LBJ playing in the Olympics.
The vision here is Steve Kerr/Erik Spoelstra like, they faced a lot of media adversity too.
Building a system like they have takes trust and patience. Jeanie and Rob that are the ones more likely to crumble under the media pressure rather than JJ, he doesn’t care.
Wishing him all the best!
What are the chances the Lakers land Sam Cassel as assistant (or lead assistant) in your opinion?
AD will go down as one of the best PF to play the game
Whenever he's actually allowed to play PF. Imagine playing someone out of position on purpose and expecting the best results.
How do we measure JJ's performance?.... Simple
He's already cleared the bar by a mile if you're comparing him to Darwin Ham who
1. lost the locker room completely to the point where not a single player, not one spoke a positive word or 2 about him thrub out the past season.
2. He was way over his head when it comes to Xs and Os strategy, game management, rotations etc
3. Complete lack of accountability was obvious in his media addresses...
JJs going to be Red Auerbach or Pat Rilry compared to Ham in the above aspects
But if you're going to measure JJ on championship or bust... Then you know he's already lost that battle with the current roster.
So, the way you measure JJ is
1. Have the young talent have shown growth and maturity within a system and team identity?
2. Can JJ produce wins by out-scheming the opponent more often than not?
3. How well he uses the depth and talent on this team in the right roles?.. The "Alfreds" as he likes to call them.
4. How much he's able to get getb his stars to take the regular season seriously without f***ing around while not wearing them out.
If he can get this team to a 2nd rd or conf finals, it will be a smashing success for JJ realistically with this roster
well at least JJ will actually call plays and timeouts, not put his hands in his pockets, JJ has a great basketball mind, give him a chance like any other new employee
Andy -- 4 years for a coach that has ZERO experience is a great deal of confidence in the potential of that coach. And from Reddick's perspective, if this is a dumpster fire, 4 years isn't an eternity. But, if it works, the Lakers will no doubt extend the contract a couple of years into it. If coaching doesn't work, broadcasting will ALWAYS be there for JJ. 4 years in NO WAY undercuts JJ.
Like I said during the show, in a vacuum, totally agree. It would arguably be an overly generous deal. But given the Lakers’ history of impatience (and frankly, neither knowing what they want in a coach or even valuing the position in the first place), that specific context changes the equation. To me, at least. It’s a very unusually weird set of circumstances. Appreciate you watching. AK
I don't agree with you guys that this wasn't a thorough process. Seems to me you have been trying to push this theory since the start and just keeps trying to prop it up even if the facts prove differently. More facts please.
Oh, thank the Heavens for press releases. God forbid, anyone should, actually, put forth any real effort at journalism and critical analysis. What else does the script direct you to echo?
It does sound a touch like the front office can't win with the media at times. Previously the critiscm was that there's no process, they're railroading to Reddick too quickly, without due process, and by now the accusation is that they've taken too long, dithered around, which is being dubbed as indecision.
Hahahahahaha. JJ will want to play 5 out I’m sure. AD better work on that missing 3 point shot
About time
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How do we know JJ didn’t want four years? Guy could want flexibility and get a raise faster.
Pelinka messed this one up too. He's an awful GM. Coaching turnover every 2 years. Roster turnover every single offseason. Zero team continuity or chemistry. The Westbrook trade was a bad decision from the start. Everyone seemed to see that, BUT Pelinka. Not resigning Caruso. Trading Kuz. Getting FLEECED in EVERY SINGLE TRADE by better, more experienced GMs. Just an unmitigated disaster as a GM in every way..
Lakers hired a GM with ZERO experience and it's led to the Lakers becoming a joke. Now Pelinka is hiring a coach with ZERO experience. In 3 years, when Lebron retires and the Lakers have literally no viable young players to build around, this team will be irrelevant and will be a perennial Lottery team for the next decade and due to Pelinka's ineptitude.
It's exciting for the Lakers.
JJ could be totally fine, but really feel like the lakers greatest obstacle is the same one they've been trying to overcome most of the last decade. Robb sucks at his job, and has zero accountability. Even IF Reddick is a good coach, that albatross may ruin everything else.
Next year this time they will hire Tim Legler🤔
A straight 🤡 show....Jeanie is the Worst
Rob Pelinka is the man they should have replaced, not the coach, as a resident of So Cal most of my 74 years, the Laker management pulled another faux pas. makes me want to root for the C;ippers, a team I cannot stand
Please go root for the clippers we don’t need weak fans like you
Who's zooming who
JJ "Rhetoric" has the same coaching record as you and me. 8th seed Maybe
Pelinka had no experience when he was hired by clueless Jeanie. So he has no qualms hiring peopke like ham and jj with no experience as head coach and 4 years too long. We are still paying ham for 2 years. Next season will be a gamble. This assured that our highest ceiling is less than last season.
Lebron at 40 runs faster jump higher than Morant and the ant man give me some of. That balco juice
Damn I thought getting a coach would stop all the whining that's been going on. Damn season just ended and people been crying for weeks about hiring a coach. When you were already told by Riddick himself after the finals. Yet yall still continued to cry. It don't take a genius to figure out Hurley just came out the blue. And now since the coach has been named yall still crying about the past. Let's move on. Thanks Gentlemen
This isn’t something to be proud of. He may win now because he has LeBron and Davis. This shouldn’t have been the coach. Please stop disrespecting Pat Riley because he doesn’t have anything that comes close to reminding us of Pat Riley.
Let me ask you a question. Can you tell me any other team that showed any type of activity or interest around hiring Reddick? Okay, another question. Is there any other coaching candidate that showed active interest in the Lakers job? The answer to both of those is no. That tells you a lot.
Andy when you feel you need to explain AD stature it's over.Lebron will end up leading the team in pts and assists at 40 again because AD soft.He the same dude Shaq and Barkley was laughing at for being in a wheelchair.He just not that dude...75% of his pts come from bunnies and oops from LBJ passes. He's no Hakeem you can give the ball to on the post constantly.Funny how AD keep fooling Laker fans every yr...if he the leader of your team you not winning
Well, I don't personally agree with your overall assessment of AD (and FWIW, he scored more total points than LeBron, despite averaging fewer attempts per game and essentially no threes), but in certain respects, it doesn't even matter whether we agree. Everything you're saying about AD may (or may not) be true, but the fact remains, the way this team is currently constructed, he is their best, most important player. That's the setup. You know what I mean? It's hard to dispute. What to do with that is a different question, but them's still the facts. Appreciate you watching. AK
@@LockedOnLakers LBJ shot 1 more attempt per game than AD🤷 Does Luka taking 5 more attempts per game than LBJ make him better?? I mean the numbers say LBJ way more efficient than Luka in field goal percentage to the 3ball yet being less ball dominant than Luka. Is Luka better??...he will never make an all defensive team like other greats.You can't just say someone is better when the numbers and respect around the league say other wise
@@logicalbrother You’re missing my point. I never said LeBron taking more shots per game made him better or worse than AD. I brought it up because you originally made it sound like LeBron was carrying a much greater scoring lift above AD’s, and that’s not really true. Their scoring is essentially identical on the season. And your LeBron/Luka comp is just a strawman argument, because I never claimed that “higher FGA = greater player.” I was simply pointing out how the amount of shots you take will affect your total points scored on the season, which is just obvious and hard to dispute.
If you don’t agree with me that AD is the better, more important player on the Lakers than LeBron at this stage of their respective careers, then fine. Don’t agree with me. Disagreement is great. But you’re not gonna disprove me by shooting down points I never made in the first place.
AK
Andy it does not undercut JJ to give him 4 instead of 6 lol. Stop trying to find drama
I’m not trying to find “drama.” I’m looking at a decade-plus long history. To me, it doesn’t read like the commitment I find necessary given their history. As I said, in a vacuum, the contract is fine. But when it comes to the Lakers and coaches, life ain’t a vacuum. Context matters. A lot. Appreciate you watching. AK
This Team is not going anywhere 😡 I don't care who they Hire, cause LaBron and Klutch sports is running this Organization now.
Cry baby
Ya it’s LeBron fault. Lol.
Been running it for 6 years!! Correct.
Team is not going anywhere maybe ... Why don't you go join Clipper nation....😂😂.. Maybe you are already there 😂🤔
Ahh sh** up you pathetic, cry baby spoiled a** fans, All y’all do is b** and complain
Comedy hour with these brothers why dont you two cut.the embivcal cord and go your separate ways
GOODBYE MARK JACKSON STANS/FAMILY GO FIND ANOTHER FAN BASE TO BOTHER
Andy is always so negative. JJ will do fine. Listen to him talk about all the subtle details of the game. He's at least 25 IQ points smarter than Ham.
The biggest threat to JJ is him being blamed for the Lakers being in 11 place, when the obvious cause is a regressed 40 year old "superstar". We all know Bron is a coach killer and NEVER takes the blame.
Another losing season
Lebron is the problem and kluch sports
Let’s go lakers. Thanks for the show guys 👌
I’m excited! I hope we get an experienced staff for JJ and we get a true big man so AD can play the 4 against certain teams.
Not a fan of this hire unless it is primarily for the post LeBron era.
The Lakers always go for the splashy hire when good and competent is probably all you need to be successful, case in point Frank Vogel who was their fourth choice.
The last big swing like Luke didn't work out.
Personally, I don't think the Lakers should have even considered candidates who didn't have head coaching experience.
I was against the Ham hiring last time and thought Stotts would have been a much better option.
Heck, Scott Brooks would be a better win now option.
My only hope is that they are invested in JJ and ride this out even if the next two years are a mess.
I know they will not spend the required money to hire an experienced bench to support JJ. Thanks Cheapie Buss
We will see how this works out, but with LeBron potentially being a free agent... Maybe he can take a contact where he takes a discount, saving the Lakers money to bring in more talent so the team can win another championship just like Ohtani did with the Dodgers.
Darvin Ham is laughing all the way to the bank. We are not relevant
Laughing with both hands in his pockets 😭😭😭
Not relevant. The Lakers are all people are talking about. It's like the Celtics didn't just win. The Lakers are super relevant.
Hey guys. With JJ as the new coach, you know who I wanna see on the Lakers next year? CP3. I think that's a great match. CP3 coming off the bench in a JJ offense with LeBron off-ball, with AD in the post, I think there's some fun to be had there.
Cp3 is 40 c'mon man 😂😂
Does JJ coach Summer League?
He better!
I hope so. He could use the reps. Perfect low-pressure setting to gain some. AK
JJ will end up being a great hire. He is a basketball junkie and he’s been studying and breaking down the game for a while. People who think he got this job cuz of pod with Lebron are just simpleminded and haven’t been paying attention.
They haven’t hired anyone yet. If they had there would have been a press conference or official release. There has been neither
What could possibly go wrong. LBJ hires his podcast buddy.
JJ who?
Typical media (and fan) groupthink. None of the Lakers' last 7 coaches have worked out, so why not give JJ a try if they think he can be successful? Surround him with great assistants and boost his confidence (fans and Lakers media), instead of acting like he has no chance. Also, the FO can show confidence in JJ in their press conference.
Why not take a look at Michael Cooper? He has just as much if not more coaching experience than Scott Brooks.
If Coop’s interested, sure. I just don’t get the impression he’s interested. The guy is pushing 70. I imagine he wants no part of that lifestyle. AK
Andy is STILL stuck on Hurley, a candidate no one was thinking about until the Lakers considered him. Get over it, already. If Hurley was serious and didn't want to just coach kids he would've presented the NUMBER he wanted like any other adult in a negotiation. He didn't cause it wouldn't be realistic. Hurley wasn't ready for THIS level of basketball or the Lakers. Period.
^This Andy's whining was annoying