Maaaan I feel so frustrated. I can't imagine how Brian must feel like. But at least we know when everything is dialed up and ready this will be a right on BEAST!! Keep your head up B you're gonna get there!!
Man it sucks seeing Brian react to the damage, but hey as far as parts go it could've been a lot worse, and even if it can't rip this weekend I'm sure you'd rather it break now in the shop then throw a rod on the track or something. you boys will get it sorted soon, keep up the work lads
500whp is going to party man, Brian's car is going from clutch kicking the whole track to be an absolute smoke show. Glad the damage wasn't worse! Isn't it funny how you try to protect it from needle bearings with the trunion upgrade then the rocker arm itself takes a shit lol, gotta fight ya every step of the way
I ordered roller rockers, new ti retainer, and pushrod length checker, will be measuring with the new rockers and likely ordering a second set of pushrods.
Yeah if you use a cam that’s not a gm cam you should def check length. All GM cams should work with stock length and the stock LS7 style hydraulic lifters. But when u got Bigfoot’s schlong in there should prolly check lol, I’m loving watching this build cause mines very similar with my e36 but taking way longer!
If the LS-Z isn't a square port head they wont work as the square port heads intake rocker is offset where the cathedral port heads are straight like the exhaust rocker.
@@wheels808 why though? If it got him on the road why not, they were only stock rockers with uprated truncheons so if they were the right ones on the LS-Z it would probably work on a detuned setup?
There's not a speed shop or all your car connections that can get a set of rockers for the most common American motor? The shop that built B's motor should be able to hook you up with someone. That car is gonna be a BEAST. Good job 👍
Sucks Brian can't catch a break with his builds. His effort deserves a ripper and I know he'll get it on track soon. Sending good vibes up your way, hope you all can make it happen soon!
Man, what a heartbreaking feeling. I've been there before quite a few times, but at least yall tracked it down right away and it'll be an easy fix. Look at it this way, the engine doesn't have to be pulled!
Brian built a beautiful car, he built what I have been dreaming of building for years, eventually I will bring my dreams to reality but until then, I can’t wait to see more of it!
Are the rocker arms by chance from Michigan Motorsports? If so, this type of thing has happened before. Go to the junkyard, grab some stock truck 6.2 rocker arms, and do the trunion upgrade yourself. The oem castings are way better, even used.
I had a 1999 GMC Sonoma with the little 4 cylinder in it and I actually had one of the valves managed to back its own bolt out completely and fall off inside of the side of the head ended up driving it 20 miles home on 3 cylinders with the spark plug and injector unplugged dropped it off at the shop and had it back the next day and all they had to do was put a new bolt and rocker arm in it and it was mint 👌
Dang sorry that happen Brian but it could have been a whole lot worse! maybe TX Speed can overnight you guys something to get you on the road. At least for the weekend??
Anyone else would've made this problem 10x worse, Jimmy and Brian, listening and feeling out things with genuine mechanical sympathy; making sense of the data. Great job guys, Brian, your car is amazing; and you're doing so much better than so many others. I see that man's face when he's got time and money invested and I know the feelings; I know how stressful it is. Can't wait to see the shit-eating grin this car puts on your face man.
Somebody sponsor our boy B-Hall with some sick rocker arms! He is such a hard worker and good guy, so for this to happen and he still cant rip his car is a huge bummer. He deserves to get to enjoy his ride after of all of the sweat and tears he has put into it, MULTIPLE TIMES.
I feel this pain man, ran through so many stupid part failures while getting my civic dialed in. Scavenge pumps, oil squirters, lma's, leaking gaskets. No fun and definitely can take the wind out of your sails. Just have to keep your head up and keep pushing towards the end goal.
This is Jimmy He has a lot of his own project cars that need work But still takes time to help out his friend, even though he isn't there Be like Jimmy...
Aaaahhhhh man brian!!! This suck on a fresh build right before the event, I'm sorry this happend! just stay positive, it will be even more dialed when it's fixed... can't a guy just catch a break
Felt sooo heartbroken for B when I saw that puff come out of the breather. Definitely clinched my cheeks. Was hoping it was nothing but I’m glad to see that it isn’t that much damage. You’ll get it sorted between Texas Speed or Bootleg I’m sure.
braking in the valve guides to run at a temperature range that they were not cut to run at takes a while... holding it at the dyno power wattage to keep it at 65mph while wide open is so many watts and when you see that number starting to fall one of the reasons is that the valve overlap is increasing via the exhaust valves getting to hot and sticking in the guides. it would be easy to get a volt/watt meter on the power wire for the dyno if it doesn't already have one in the software.
exhaust port temperature sensors relay a signal to the ECU that will cut back the motor if they get to hot, thus preventing the valves from sticking in the guides from thermal expansion... calibrate them to the ratio of thermal rating of the valves in line with the application specific valve guide to stem clearance that coincides with the thermal expansion of the valve and valve guide. want to run it that hot you need to loosen up the valve guides a few thousandths of an inch.
@@shona5512 not when you start blowing motors because oil starvation killed the bearings. taylor ray already went threw this on his miata, fist outing ruined his bearings, 2-3k for the dry sump that is reliable is worth it.
I dont know if its the same over there in the states but over here in Australia we had a recall on ls3 and lsa powered vehicles due to failing oem rockers. Possibly got a set of faulty rockers and if i remember correctly it was the intake rocker arms that had the fault and it looks as if you broke an intake valve spring.
Fuck that thing is probably one of the best sounding builds of this motor I've ever heard; I cant imagine what it's like in person with it actually thumping your chest.
That sudden excessive blow by with the power drop is a good thing to watch for in the future then. As soon as that rocker broke the valve was barely opening and causing a ton of blow by. I know you guys know, but I'm more just making a mental note.
The sound of that bad girl revving rockets it right to the top of my list for cars on this channel. Jimmy should hook Brian up with some upgrades, too!
'Sometimes good things can fall apart. Sometimes good things fall together.' Everything happens for a reason, there's no learning without failure and this may have taught a previously unknown issue that could've hit at a much worse time than on the dyno in a shop. Glad to know everything will be fixed.
Brooooo seeing Brian visually upset then kills you, so glad that’s all it is and not something massive. It’ll be up and going harder than ever in no time homie
oh man, so bummed! but glad it didnt ruin all the work put into that motor. That was probably one of the best audio clips ive heard of a v8, the mic picked it up really well i was surprised!
I money shifted from 3rd to 2nd in my starlet ryt at top rpm nearly 90mph years ago snapped a Rocker arm still drove an hour home from college 🤣 put second hand one in and she ran like a champ, Atleast it's only a Rocker arm 👌💯 it didn't sound right since yous started it . I was thinking it was down a cylinder the whole time nearly maybe 🤔
Man surely out of all the engine builders and ls guys y’all know some ones got some rockers you could snag. Well least I hope so. Hang in there brian they car really improved.
B Hall hope they can overnight you parts so you can at least get close to being done for the event. That sucks but you and Jimmy can get it done. It's sounds awesome and for sure will be over 500hp.
i feel like i heard that arm jumpin around at the end of the 1st power down pull. i thought it was a knock for a second and then didnt hear it when you went for the next pull. B reminds me of myself a lot in the car world, literally every big piece of progress comes with a setback. itll come together soon tho!!
Oem rocker arms with the trunnions upgrade are fine even above that power level. Seems to me you were sold a “like” a oem replacement. Sorry about your luck you’ll get it going!
Well that sucks to see. Hope to see it fixed soon. I realize there is only so much money available to spend, but to skip upgrading the rocker with the much stiffer valve spring, there was no way they were going to last.
That's crazy, Taylor ray ran stock rockers with a trunion upgrade for a while, I actually think he still does, just is the brass bushing version instead of the needle bearing one that he used to have.
Check the initial pulse of compression on that cylinder to the rest and be sure that that rod isn't bent. first hit of compression tells the most abt the hole.
If I'm not mistaken, if you change the cam you have to get different length push rods because the change in the lift. Maybe that's why the rocker broke or the cam is to rowdy and needs roller rockers.? I don't know american engines that well.
That sucks that it broke. But I just got some fully roller rockers for my ls I'm building. They say they can make more power but my thing is they look way stronger than stock. Just my 2 cents but I say upgrade to full rollers.
Just put the stock rockers on it for the time maybe with a trunion kit. The stock LS rockers hardly brake, they really like to come apart and throw bearing material everywhere but they don't usually snap in half like that.
I feel so bad for Brian he works his ass off for everyone. We need all hands on deck so brian can get his ass on the track
This would be great. It’s possible but how possible all the way in ct
Maaaan I feel so frustrated. I can't imagine how Brian must feel like. But at least we know when everything is dialed up and ready this will be a right on BEAST!! Keep your head up B you're gonna get there!!
That's so unfortunate, but MAN this car going to be a RIPPER
Yeah man it's sounds real good holy shit!
Man it sucks seeing Brian react to the damage, but hey as far as parts go it could've been a lot worse, and even if it can't rip this weekend I'm sure you'd rather it break now in the shop then throw a rod on the track or something. you boys will get it sorted soon, keep up the work lads
500whp is going to party man, Brian's car is going from clutch kicking the whole track to be an absolute smoke show.
Glad the damage wasn't worse! Isn't it funny how you try to protect it from needle bearings with the trunion upgrade then the rocker arm itself takes a shit lol, gotta fight ya every step of the way
you should check the pushrods for damage and double check their length is correct for that combination
I ordered roller rockers, new ti retainer, and pushrod length checker, will be measuring with the new rockers and likely ordering a second set of pushrods.
Not an uncommon issue with a heads/cam change so good to be sure. The swap looks great by the way!
Yeah if you use a cam that’s not a gm cam you should def check length. All GM cams should work with stock length and the stock LS7 style hydraulic lifters. But when u got Bigfoot’s schlong in there should prolly check lol, I’m loving watching this build cause mines very similar with my e36 but taking way longer!
Surely the engine builder checked pushrod length
@@jasonlouis5498 didn't the push rods come with cam from texas speed?
JIMMY - DONATE YOURS FROM THE LS-Z TEMPORARILY TO GET HIM TO THE DRIFT WEEKEND
EXACTLY what I'm saying!
If the LS-Z isn't a square port head they wont work as the square port heads intake rocker is offset where the cathedral port heads are straight like the exhaust rocker.
@@wheels808 why though? If it got him on the road why not, they were only stock rockers with uprated truncheons so if they were the right ones on the LS-Z it would probably work on a detuned setup?
@@xKrYPTiiKZz yeah my bad i read it wrong the first time :D good idea
There's not a speed shop or all your car connections that can get a set of rockers for the most common American motor? The shop that built B's motor should be able to hook you up with someone. That car is gonna be a BEAST. Good job 👍
Regardless of the setback the car is bitchin’ and will party when the time comes, keep your head up B!
More like start buying tires Brian!
I love how B was still happy and smiling after such a rough night on the dyno... Such a humble group of boys and there toy's 👌💯
Id call cleetus or texas speed. Odds are they can help you and over night rockers
If ol cleeter has what they need I know worst case Adam will get it sent to him asap
Facts
Lol you kids are so naive😂😂😂
@@justincasiere9598 ol cleeter is part owner of motion raceworks now and is the ls guy
Or go through Derek? Should have a local hook-up?
Brian just not winning with the his car, he needs a win
give my man the ew32 to slide around brians gotta atleast be able to get out after that unfortunate turn of events
Nah, let him take the ITB BMW!
Sucks Brian can't catch a break with his builds. His effort deserves a ripper and I know he'll get it on track soon. Sending good vibes up your way, hope you all can make it happen soon!
Man, what a heartbreaking feeling. I've been there before quite a few times, but at least yall tracked it down right away and it'll be an easy fix. Look at it this way, the engine doesn't have to be pulled!
The way Brian explained his goal for what he wanted from the engine explained a lot.. 👍🏽
Brian built a beautiful car, he built what I have been dreaming of building for years, eventually I will bring my dreams to reality but until then, I can’t wait to see more of it!
Are the rocker arms by chance from Michigan Motorsports? If so, this type of thing has happened before. Go to the junkyard, grab some stock truck 6.2 rocker arms, and do the trunion upgrade yourself. The oem castings are way better, even used.
Most definitely
I had a 1999 GMC Sonoma with the little 4 cylinder in it and I actually had one of the valves managed to back its own bolt out completely and fall off inside of the side of the head ended up driving it 20 miles home on 3 cylinders with the spark plug and injector unplugged dropped it off at the shop and had it back the next day and all they had to do was put a new bolt and rocker arm in it and it was mint 👌
Dang sorry that happen Brian but it could have been a whole lot worse! maybe TX Speed can overnight you guys something to get you on the road. At least for the weekend??
Anyone else would've made this problem 10x worse, Jimmy and Brian, listening and feeling out things with genuine mechanical sympathy; making sense of the data.
Great job guys, Brian, your car is amazing; and you're doing so much better than so many others.
I see that man's face when he's got time and money invested and I know the feelings; I know how stressful it is.
Can't wait to see the shit-eating grin this car puts on your face man.
Somebody sponsor our boy B-Hall with some sick rocker arms! He is such a hard worker and good guy, so for this to happen and he still cant rip his car is a huge bummer. He deserves to get to enjoy his ride after of all of the sweat and tears he has put into it, MULTIPLE TIMES.
Idc if its not going to plan I'm stoked to see this thing start. I know you guys will figure it out asap
I feel this pain man, ran through so many stupid part failures while getting my civic dialed in. Scavenge pumps, oil squirters, lma's, leaking gaskets. No fun and definitely can take the wind out of your sails. Just have to keep your head up and keep pushing towards the end goal.
Help that boy out man that's sad, youll get there Brian, it will feel like forever but it will be worth everything
Brian just can’t catch a break with these swaps… praying this motor lasts🙏🏽✌🏽
Damn Brian I feel your pain! At least it wasn’t nothing major, keep the builds up my guys
Brian! gotta be so proud and stoked on that car
B always takes everything positively man I know you will get blessed and I hope you get what you deserve bro most definitely 🙏😎👌
This is Jimmy
He has a lot of his own project cars that need work
But still takes time to help out his friend, even though he isn't there
Be like Jimmy...
Ants pupils at the end were HUGE. Mans is tweakin hahaha
Aaaahhhhh man brian!!! This suck on a fresh build right before the event, I'm sorry this happend! just stay positive, it will be even more dialed when it's fixed... can't a guy just catch a break
Felt sooo heartbroken for B when I saw that puff come out of the breather. Definitely clinched my cheeks. Was hoping it was nothing but I’m glad to see that it isn’t that much damage. You’ll get it sorted between Texas Speed or Bootleg I’m sure.
Be happy with those numbers! Get it fixed! Rip it up when it all comes together! Good luck fellas!!
Just as I was preparing to rip my bong, a notification popped, great timing as always Jimmy!
Funny I just ripped ass
Same to both
2.36am... LoL yeah I'll have a bong. Good idea.
Im glad that Damian shout out you in one of his video about the tune
Can you use another oem rocker and save the bearing out of the broken one? I have a parts LS in my garage local to you. Lmk
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braking in the valve guides to run at a temperature range that they were not cut to run at takes a while... holding it at the dyno power wattage to keep it at 65mph while wide open is so many watts and when you see that number starting to fall one of the reasons is that the valve overlap is increasing via the exhaust valves getting to hot and sticking in the guides. it would be easy to get a volt/watt meter on the power wire for the dyno if it doesn't already have one in the software.
exhaust port temperature sensors relay a signal to the ECU that will cut back the motor if they get to hot, thus preventing the valves from sticking in the guides from thermal expansion... calibrate them to the ratio of thermal rating of the valves in line with the application specific valve guide to stem clearance that coincides with the thermal expansion of the valve and valve guide. want to run it that hot you need to loosen up the valve guides a few thousandths of an inch.
Noticed in the covers on the rims in the last few vidz..
And it does look baller👌👌👌
Be careful drifting causing oil starvation. Dry sump set up helps with gm based V8s. Love the build and great content!
Dry sumps also help to drain your bank account and/or put you in crippling debt lol
@@shona5512 not when you start blowing motors because oil starvation killed the bearings. taylor ray already went threw this on his miata, fist outing ruined his bearings, 2-3k for the dry sump that is reliable is worth it.
Accusump for safety is a good aternative
I dont know if its the same over there in the states but over here in Australia we had a recall on ls3 and lsa powered vehicles due to failing oem rockers. Possibly got a set of faulty rockers and if i remember correctly it was the intake rocker arms that had the fault and it looks as if you broke an intake valve spring.
Brians thought process whilst assessing the damage: _"BuY aN LS ThEy sAiD.. iT'lL bE ReLiAbLe tHeY sAiD."_
Happy for you Brian 👍👍 keep up the good content Jimmy 🔥🔥🔥
Fuck that thing is probably one of the best sounding builds of this motor I've ever heard; I cant imagine what it's like in person with it actually thumping your chest.
That sudden excessive blow by with the power drop is a good thing to watch for in the future then. As soon as that rocker broke the valve was barely opening and causing a ton of blow by. I know you guys know, but I'm more just making a mental note.
The exhaust note on it sounds amazing.
This car is doin everything it can to keep itself off the track lmao. I know you guys will get it sorted out though
Lol Ants fingers crossed had me laughing too much
The sound of that bad girl revving rockets it right to the top of my list for cars on this channel. Jimmy should hook Brian up with some upgrades, too!
Despite the drawbacks...Brian still has a sense of humour ...the have a better night than me😂😂😂
Hold your head up Brian it will get better. Awesome car man.
Lmao that beer crack at 14:19 was perfect
Best case scenario for sure. Lucky the valve didn't drop. Hope to see this thing barking on video soon!
'Sometimes good things can fall apart. Sometimes good things fall together.'
Everything happens for a reason, there's no learning without failure and this may have taught a previously unknown issue that could've hit at a much worse time than on the dyno in a shop. Glad to know everything will be fixed.
Good thing that’s not a bad issue !! Can’t wait to see it make 500!!!
Brooooo seeing Brian visually upset then kills you, so glad that’s all it is and not something massive. It’ll be up and going harder than ever in no time homie
keep your head up brian! your car is sick!!
Half way through the video and im so damn invested if something goes wrong im gonna cry for b
oh man, so bummed! but glad it didnt ruin all the work put into that motor. That was probably one of the best audio clips ive heard of a v8, the mic picked it up really well i was surprised!
Michigan motorsports rockers with trunion upgrade are working for me on my turbo ls1👍 cheap and to the point
I money shifted from 3rd to 2nd in my starlet ryt at top rpm nearly 90mph years ago snapped a Rocker arm still drove an hour home from college 🤣 put second hand one in and she ran like a champ, Atleast it's only a Rocker arm 👌💯 it didn't sound right since yous started it . I was thinking it was down a cylinder the whole time nearly maybe 🤔
Man surely out of all the engine builders and ls guys y’all know some ones got some rockers you could snag. Well least I hope so. Hang in there brian they car really improved.
B Hall hope they can overnight you parts so you can at least get close to being done for the event. That sucks but you and Jimmy can get it done. It's sounds awesome and for sure will be over 500hp.
Jimmy an brian this inspired me to build my 6.0 l77 damn
i feel like i heard that arm jumpin around at the end of the 1st power down pull. i thought it was a knock for a second and then didnt hear it when you went for the next pull. B reminds me of myself a lot in the car world, literally every big piece of progress comes with a setback. itll come together soon tho!!
Oem rocker arms with the trunnions upgrade are fine even above that power level. Seems to me you were sold a “like” a oem replacement. Sorry about your luck you’ll get it going!
Well that sucks to see. Hope to see it fixed soon. I realize there is only so much money available to spend, but to skip upgrading the rocker with the much stiffer valve spring, there was no way they were going to last.
B Haul be having bad luck with engines!! Will be all worth it when he starts shredding tyres. 🤙🏼
Fresh retainer and pushrod and a full set of rockers your mint
Crazy! Love that e46!
Sounded good Brian.
Biggs things will come to you guys keep things steady all this year and hit us with merch drops but next year y’all will for shore level up
this thing is a scooter bro its going to party! brian keep that head up and get on the track soon!
That's crazy, Taylor ray ran stock rockers with a trunion upgrade for a while, I actually think he still does, just is the brass bushing version instead of the needle bearing one that he used to have.
Check the initial pulse of compression on that cylinder to the rest and be sure that that rod isn't bent. first hit of compression tells the most abt the hole.
Made 600 on my LS6 (gen 3) with a pro charger setup using stock rockers with the Trunnions upgrade. Gen 3 rockers are definitely WAY thicker!
If I'm not mistaken, if you change the cam you have to get different length push rods because the change in the lift. Maybe that's why the rocker broke or the cam is to rowdy and needs roller rockers.? I don't know american engines that well.
You change the pushrod length if the base circle changes
I’m building a lq4 with that sand rocker arm setup so then bry noted I’ll get the other ones too
Keep ya head up B! Shits gonna be ripping soon!!
Hope to see you banging doors with Rudnik soon!
That's one of those "Oh thank God, that could have been so much worse" moments
Our guy Summo's back!
So many counterfeit parts out there guys, buy from local or reputable online suppliers only! Happy shredding!!
Brian your car is kick ass man it looks good sound fucking mean can’t wait to see you on the track with a nice white trail behind you
condolences B! you'll get her back on the road soon. this inspires me to go buy an e46 and v8 swap it.
Better than it breaking at the event. Sounds like a God damn MONSTER though!!
Gonna need some vr1 oil or maybe use your preference and add that Lucas super duty additive
yeah bummer on that rocker breaking, but at least you dont have to pull the head to replace them like i had to on my M30
Glad you’ve got the dyno to find these things early though 👌🏼 could of waited ages if you didn’t have it
Definitely a bummer but way better it happened at the shop then at the track! I can’t wait to see this thing jam
As soon as that blow-by hit you could hear it chew that rocker
Sending good vibes and a whole lotta blunts to Brian, It'll be hittin soon my G !
That sucks that it broke. But I just got some fully roller rockers for my ls I'm building. They say they can make more power but my thing is they look way stronger than stock. Just my 2 cents but I say upgrade to full rollers.
this like and comment is for you bryan lol !! its lookin great tho!!! cant wait to see you hitting the track with this
Derrick gotta have extras!
Love Brians car. Feel sorry for him!
Just put the stock rockers on it for the time maybe with a trunion kit. The stock LS rockers hardly brake, they really like to come apart and throw bearing material everywhere but they don't usually snap in half like that.
I feel for you Brian, I even felt that one when it happened and its not my car. keep your head up though, that shits gonna be AN ABSOLUTE RIPPER
Gutted for you Bri! So close!!