"Down A Bit From Tromsø" | Two Of These People Are Lying 3x03
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ต.ค. 2024
- There's more confusion that normal in the last episode of this series: with lies, damn lies and luchadors.
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Featuring: Matt Gray: mattg.co.uk - / mattgrayyes
Gary Brannan: / garybrannan
and Chris Joel, who doesn't do this social media nonsense
Edited by Elliot Gough
Audio mix by Graham Haerther haerther.net
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Like a true british panel show, they have completely forgotten the rules and counting points and just do what feels like the biggest laugh.
This is educational comedy
Quite interesting 🧐
18:13 *and THIS is the part where I've gone and realized these four aren't drinking water, they've substituted it out for GIN AND VODKA*
Mornington Crescent
And don't we love it
Alternate Title: Three of these people are lying, but one of them is accidentally correct.
this is very accurate
Two of these people are lying and one tells the truth, but not necessarily about the thing he has written.
That's a bit long title
18:13 *and THIS is the part where I've gone and realized these four aren't drinking water, they've substituted it out for GIN AND VODKA*
Hoku The Overwatch Editor
What, mixed?
Two are lying, one accidentally truths another accidentally lie
And that's it for this run! Just a short three episodes this time; thanks for watching, and we'll be back later in the year! -- Tom
How long does it take for you guys to film a set of three like this?
@@outhous3 Filming probably takes an afternoon. The editing however wont be as quick.
You guys cant do that i am adicted
just discovered this series, and love it! please do more soon!
I love this series! It always makes me laugh so hard!
This is the best episode of Two Of These People Are Lying yet. Featuring: The wrong person lying, magically changing years, misunderstanding your own article (Twice, cause Gary completely misunderstood HURCON!), Luchadores, and "I KNEW IT!".
Not to mention "windywindywindywindy!"
What was the magically changing years?
very windy also
@@wx7fm The Eurovision entry magically changed from 1995 to 1985
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Gary successfully cons himself out of a point, and has absolutely no regrets
you mean he hurr-hurr-cons himself out of the point? :-P
That's the game he's been playing for a while now, isn't it?
Gary's points are how badly Tom does, so every time Tom gets 0 points, Gary wins!
There are intrinsic rewards and extrinsic rewards. Gary is motivated by the intrinsic reward of defeating Tom.
Oh but Gary is playing would I lie to you rules and trying to obfuscate the truth
We are judging Gary for the bold claim of "oldest in Eurovision" but we're missing the fact that it changed from 1995 to 1985 mid-argument.
I noticed Tom said a different year and Gary just went with it which was when I knew he was lying.
Tom needs to start doing that on p urpose...
@@ICountFrom0 It would probably make it too easy for him, in that case they would have to prepare themselves for the fake articles.
Yeah I rewound it to double check when Tom said '85 but I remembered '95.
Fun fact. Finland didn't even participate in the Eurovision song competition in '95
To be fair, Gary's description of HURCON was so bad that as someone who has spent his whole life in hurricane areas, I didn't believe him either, and had to look at the article. He had the scale backwards - HURCON isn't related at all to the category 1-5 of the Saffir-Simpson scale, but is a countdown of how long you have until the hurricane hits It's a military term (it's not used by the general public), very much like DEFCON, and like DEFCON the lower the number, the more imminent the threat. HURCON 5 is "you have 3 days until the storm" and HURCON 1 is "The storm is currently on top of you". I think he managed not to give a single item from the actual article other than "Hurricane Condition"
That would explain why his description sounded so intensely wrong despite have the actual article
@@Bootleg_Jones THIS, holy crap I can't believe that wasn't a lie as someone who grew up in florida
I’m guessing this is because Gary tries to make his true definitions as ridiculous as possible so Tom doesn’t win
@@thenerd6192 Which is really kind of boring, because it easier for him. The point of the game is to always act like it's your article, not always act like it's not.
As someone who also lives in a hurricane area I also became _homicidally_ angry upon his suggestion that when a hurricane is coming you _go into the cellar._
Hey Gary?
There's this thing called "flooding"
Which commonly leads to this thing called "drowning"
Petition for the series to be renamed "Truth, Lies and Scandinavia"
Sam The Bass Singer lies, damn lies and Scandinavia.
Isn't that basically QI at this point?
Too bad Finland isnt a part of Scandinavia
Don't forget Australia! 🦘
@@oz_jones fine. "truth, lies, and the nords."
After his fluke on "down a bit from Tromsø", Matt wasn't a million miles away from a real thing with his last lie either. There is a "Mexican" wrestler called El Ligero who has been a mainstay of the UK indie scene for almost 20 years, and is currently in WWE. But he's from Leeds, not Wigan.
I would have thought Doncaster
and now he's been outed as a terrible person
@@karfsma778 but the assault charges have been redacted and removed, whether that's due to some payout to keep quiet or whether they were truly false only he and the other person will ever know.
@@obliviousotterI Is his name Geoffrey Smallport and does he have a butler called “Finchley!”?
It's the details that matter. Fiction had to be close to the truth Tobe believable. Truth, OTIH, has no obligation to be believable.
We're the Technical Difficulties and this is "Two of These People Think They're Lying"
"And one who only thinks he's not!"
"To those of you used to us being the voice of truth. Both of you. . . " went severely under appreciated
Wasn't under appreciated by me - that's the point that made me hit the Like button.
And I still don’t understand it-
@@kosalraman2381 adding "both of you" implies that only 2 people of the entire audience is used to them being a voice of truth, also implying basically their entire audience knows they have no idea what they are doing or saying
It's a frequent gag in a lot of the old audio episodes too. They would occasionally address the audience as THE listener
Related: Gary calling the audience "readers", which seems to have been a thing since Reverse Trivia.
"And some of them have airports" either slipped past Tom or he willfully ignored it because he didn't want to relive it
I vaguely remember this but could you remind me from which episode or series it's from
@@fernfern0 1x01. Lenkotenka (probably spelt that wrong).
@@fernfern0 series 1 episode 1, second half of the episode. "Lentokenttä"
@@Sixthhokage95 @BorinUltimatum thanks for the quick response
@@Sixthhokage95 I'll never not read that in Chris's metal voice "Lentokenttä"
Not only has this show evolved from testing Toms deductive capacities against the trio's bluffing skills to the trio doing their utmost to just screw him over on camera - it has also quickly surpassed even Citation Needed as my favourite thing on youtube. :)
Also, YAY all the scandinavian themes! :D
Hurcon, a Swedish food
@@BandanaDrummer95 hmm. I am more in favour of the Citation Needed format.
That format borrowed itself more for them all to go off on side stories or character building for some good jokes.
With the current format it feels like just when they pick up steam they are done.
Which sounds odd to me, because the evolution you describe is by far my least favorite part of the show.
Oh I don't know, I'd love to see these guys do a round of Citation Needed again
Cmon now, this episode may have been more entertaining than the rest, but it still doesn't compare to Citation Needed
Now renamed to: All of these people have no idea.
Three Of These People Are Lying But They Don't Know It
100%
accurate
Listening to Matt seductively murmur the word "discharge" into a radio microphone has ruined my life, thank you for this.
it ruined my pants as well
@@matt_sexton I don't want to know how.
Should make it into a ringtone
@@rawovunlapin8201 Isn't it obvious?
It made him...
Discharge.
Y10 boys in geography lessons be like.
I wrote my car off this morning, and Matt's Lancastrian luchador not being real is still the most disappointing thing that's happened to me today.
I can relate
It's right up there with Chris's story about the wannabe Jesus.
I sort of knew that eventually someone would accidentally make up the article from scratch, but that was WAY closer than I expected for the third series. Well done Matt.
Will someone create an article on Hurcon, el guerrero?
Shouldn't have scrolled down before watching
Glumbor Tango
Matt was just a degree or two too far south. If he hadn’t said _south_ of the Arctic Circle he would have been spot on.
And for something so niche!
The Lule-sami is legitimally the name of the group around the river. Love hearing my region being butchered
Greeting from Lule(å)
Gave me a bit of a scare to be honest, just namedropping my home region like that
Having checked the article, I can say that Gary didn't know his own choice very well because he got the scale entirely wrong. It indicates how far out the hurricane is, with level 5 being 96 hours and 0 being "it's already here." Has nothing to do with the severity of the winds.
*slow clap for the Muppet who has no idea what his own Wikipedia article is* 😂😂😂😂
Further evidence that Gary is purposefully trying to sound disingenuous when it's his article.
@@ILikePi31415926535 Gary the wildcard going for chaos more than points has really grown on me tbh haha
Gary is there just to make sure Tom doesn't get a point, I imagine
Maybe Gary forgot the contents of his article
The little split second in which Tom realizes that Gary's "Hurcon" was the correct one and they both stare into each other is comedy gold right there. I can imagine both of their minds thinking "I can't believe this you motherf***er"
“We still don’t have an outro” is basically the outro at this point.
Outro!? We don't need no stinkin' Outro!
just like War0wl has his outro is: "my name is War Owl, and i still... have no closer"
Or Reaper_EN's "I don't want to waste your time, so there won't be an intro."
Outro! what is it good for
Exactly what I was thinking
I think Chris has a tell. When it's his article, he gives some dry factual stuff sounding vague, and then after the reveal, he tells the entertaining story of scrapyard F-104s and classified jet engines (or whatever), whereas when he's bluffing, he _leads_ with the entertaining story.
To be fair, Chris has many tells. He waves his hands and arms around a lot when he's lying, and moves around more in general.
Matt, to me, is the best liar out of the three, as he always sounds a bit unsure and vague, and manages to make up very plausible details.
@@mytube001 And then there's Gary, who just plays to make Tom lose.
@@mytube001 His strategy seems to be to bluff a "I don't recall exactly" while trying to come up with more details, which blends perfectly with his behaviour when it actually is his article
This was one hell of a last episode, the liars even managed to fool themselves!
Chris misunderstood his own article enough that Matt actually became the one telling the truth somehow,
then Gary gives such a terrible description of HUR-CON that he might as well have been lying (though that bluff was top-notch)!
As a person from Tromsø, that whole Lule Samì bit was so confusing when they gave the point to Chris. I really started doubting my own reality.
Wouldn't be a Tech Dif production without a "giggling to the point of choking" segment.
I'm pretty sure at this point Gary is just screwing with Tom whenever it's his card by giving the worst possible description on purpose.
Yeha, there have been so many times where he could have given more detail to justify it by instead he hold back and what he does say he says it in a way that makes you think hes bullshitting
Love how the year for Lule Sami changed from 1995 to 1985 and no one noticed
This i was like Tom is pulling a trick to see if he lies
yeah
Gary is chaotic evil incarnate, just out to wind tom up even if it's his own article!
18:13 *it worked. and THIS is the part where I've gone and realized these four aren't drinking water, they've substituted it out for GIN AND VODKA*
@@xtzyshuadog Man you really wanted people to laugh at this. This is like the 5th time I've seen this comment.
That's the whole point and it's amazing
This has got to be the weirdest episode of this series. Everything was all over the place, it was like a there was a Hurcon in effect xD
I am literally in tears right now
Why is there a framed picture of Hulk Hogan behind Chris' head?
its a picture of hurcon
Because why not?
Because Matt couldn't find a photo of his favourite australian wrestler, Bulk Bogan, so Hulk Hogan just had to do instead.
And even worse, looks like it's "2019 Redemption Tour" Hulk Hogan.
brother
Tom: Lule Sami
Me, a linguistics major: this is gonna be fun
Edit: Chris, wtf?
Lule sami is apparantly a river, a people, and a language.
Vegard Berget
Luleå, or Luleälven, is the river. (Luleå is also a city where the mouth of said river is.)
Tom is a linguistics major too btw
@@kala_asi technically he isn't a linguistics "major" as british universities don't use a major-minor system, he's a linguistics graduate.
@@kala_asi exactly, i was thinking about Tom's linguistic expertise and knowledge (well) of finland and wondering how he might have missed it
The Dory on the bookshelf gets me everytime I see it
Zach Soma it looks like someone deflated in the earlier series
I like the framed picture of Hulk Hogan visible at 6:01
now I cannot unsee the Dory
I think Matt gets Mystery Biscuits for being accidentally right xD
I think that's why Tom did that weird fidget. He so wanted to hit a mystery biscuits button.
I've rewatched these so many times and yet only NOW am I noticing the moving Dory in the background!!
I love how Gary feels the need to convince Tom that he isn't telling the truth when he is and therefore not getting the point :P
It's not about Gary winning, its about Tom losing
I find it really annoying. The show was structured around people trying to convince Tom their answer is right, it falls apart when people don't bother.
@@timothymclean this is techdif the structure is loose at best
You could say he... missed the point
'what do the numbers represent?'
'How bad the hurricane is.'
Frankly a masterful bit of play from Gary there.
As a Norwegian, who knows about the Lule Sami language, it was interesting hearing the other people making up lies about it
As a Finn, who knows something about Sami people, it was really surprising to hear Matt saying "no". :)
@@laju yes, bc he was absolutely right - lule sami are 'tribe' of sami people. he knows more than he deigns to show... ;)
It was also painful to watch as Chris had completely misread the article and Matt was actually correct.
This week on "Three of these people don't want Tom to win"...
"In case of tsunami, this is where 'Up' is." What?! This is something I need a Tom Scott video on!
scbtripwire I assume it’s signs saying ‘this way to high ground’ or something like that.
What is there to talk about? In places that are prone to Tsunamis, there are signs which tell you the best way to higher ground
@@ahsdfkdasdahdkas2887 Oh, so it's not for when you are underwater and don't know which direction to swim because you are disoriented
I was puzzled by that. How often are there tsunamis in the Caribbean?
The Hurcon “wind wind wind wind” bit has just completely finished me off! 🤣 Also, I’m from Wigan and could totally see the whole Bolton wrestling competition being an actual thing 😂
I’m from Bolton and I cannot.
This was bizarre. I'm from just south of Luleå. The city that gives its name to both the river and the portion of sami who lives along its river valley. So I knew Matt was right which made me very impressed by Chris knowing the name of our county for his bullshiting 😂
Still wondering when everyone will learn that "double bluffing" isn't a helpful strategy in this game.
It prevents Tom from winning, so it could be considered a functional, if underhanded, strategy.
It is if you want to troll Tom!
Im pretty sure everyones goal is to Win when they have a fake article, and get as close to winning without winning when its the real article
No biscuits = no motivation to win.
@@Zalied Everyone's goal is to win either way, cause they get a point regardless of whether its real or not, the only difference is if it is real Tom also gets a point. Double bluffing is very much cutting off your nose to spite your face.
Gary "I don't care if i don't get points as long as Tom does not get a point" Brannan at his finest
That's why he is our favourite Gary Brannan
Matt's accidental truthing (about geography of all things) and Gary's childishly devious manipulation were absolutely hilarious! Brilliant stuff. I've never seen a man dismantled so effortlessly by *anybody's* favourite Gary Brannan, let alone *everybody's* favourite Gary Brannan. Speaking of which, kudos to Chris in the second half for nailing the precise sort of "something you may not have known" that is guaranteed to make you want to pick him, even if it ultimately failed versus Matt's truly magnificent tale.
Also, Scandinavia is becoming your new France, as regards wheel-spinning and the like. As a Scot and thus historic best frenemy of both areas, I very much approve. I'd like to see the return of the tongue-twisting alliteration gags though... I'm scared that Matt might explode without the creative outlet.
"I know some people who know some people who have an indie wrestling promotion"
And to think just a couple years later, Tom would get roped into a wrestling night
"Twisters are the weather that picks up cows." As a native Kansan, I can confirm this is a thing that does happen. On one occasion, a twister picked up an older gentleman from what remained of his living room and forcefully integrated him with his gravel driveway, so, yeah, cows are within their capacity too.
10:13 And Tom has appeared in an UKPW event, next time he will be there as the Gripper Scott.
Tom: "I _want_ Matt's to be true"
Chris: "I want Matt's to be true"
Tom: "I also quite like Chris's"
Chris: "I quite like Chris's"
17:01
This is where I get all Smugginton Smythe and say that the oldest act in Eurovision was the double bass player for Takasa, Switzerland's entry in 2013.
Same! When Gary said that, I immediately was like "HA HA, I'VE GOT YOU FOUND OUT"
takasa stans, rise up
There is a Mexican wrestler from Leeds called El Ligero, and WWEs peak was late 90s/early 2000s, so not far wrong
And yes, he IS a Mexican wrestler from Leeds, that is not a typo.
I love the table at the bottom of his Wikipedia article.
I hadn't actually weighed the ramifications of this filling me with all sorts of wrong bar trivia knowledge hahaha
This is weird because there is a guy called Danny going for the Finnish Eurovision entry this year, who is 78 and a famous crooner who's been around since the 60s, singing a song with a really long name in Finnish about what he wants to happen at his funeral. Made me think of this immediately when I heard it 😮
Scoring idea: Since the game only really works when the person telling the truth is trying to convince Tom they're lying, make it so the game is everyone vs. Tom. If Tom guesses correctly he gets a point. Otherwise, everyone else gets a point. If Tom guesses incorrectly, the person he thought was telling the truth gets a bonus point.
Problem with that though is you just say literally any bullshit that is entirely false and you win
@@TurtleKwitty If the person whose article it actually is is obligated not to lie, but not obligated to tell the full truth, they can't say 'literally any bullshit that is entirely false' - their job is to make the truth sound implausible rather than to not tell the truth.
The game explicitly does not work if the person telling the truth is trying to convince Tom they're lying. Whoever Tom guesses gets a point, regardless of whether they were lying or truthing, and if they were truthing then Tom also gets a point. Gary is very much playing against the idea of the game when he tries to convince Tom he's lying, and while the results can be amusing, they're also rather frustrating, at least to me.
Here's a new rule: no more Scandinavian countries for you guys. Tom actually needs to win.
Up(!)
Tom has won...
Here’a a different rule: every season starts with «scandinavia special».
@@SjurSkur you'd've thought that they'd go with France, but instead they landed on Finland.
Turns out that _the wheel_ is arranged alphabetically
"Matt, is it the wrestler?"
"From wigan?"
"YES!"
"course it f*cking isn't"
Gary leading with "windy!" Had me shattered.
I mean, he wasn't _wrong._
13:35
Season 10 will have an outro I'm sure
I’m not
"We still don't have an outro" IS an outro.
At this point, I'm convinced that the last episode's outro is going to be "Hey, we finally have an outro!"
They should commission a grand animated outro with their own themesong … and only use it on the very last episode.
Tom, MY ONLY COMPLAINT (other than I'll never be on a filming of one of these) Is there's not enough of them!
This was the best thing since DEFCON was misunderstood as people with hearing difficulties conference...
17:13 "If that's fake, it was incredibly fast thinking" brought up massive argument. Yet Tom said that same thing to Chris at 12:47.
Gary, you don't win if you convince Tom you're lying when you're not!
Sod it, I count it as a win!
ah but his goal is to make tom lose
I really think it should be, it makes double bluffs a viable strategy.
Gary is playing a different game than the rest.
His goals are beyond our understanding.
Boys, please bring this back, I need more of this joy in my life
7:35 "he got close enough to still deserve the point"
But didn't Matt always deserve the point as Tom picked him? What changes after the reveal is that Tom also gets the point but nothing changes for Matt.
It's moments like the Lule Sami that beg for the return of Mystery Biscuits.
As someone who spent their early years "down a bit from Tromsø", can't wait for Tom and the gang to slate Scandinavians a bit more this episode ;)
Was it even more chaotic than expected?
I think I scared the living daylights out of my mother by laughing at the point where Tom and Gary stood and pointed out of each other at Tom's pure shock 😂 and the thing is, I googled it beforehand (although already knowing) and thought, "No, Tom, don't rule him out, don't ru- well, you ruled him out." I love this series! I hope we will see Series 4 🤣
I think a fun extra mechanic if you guys ever come back to this is to have everyone write down their votes on who they think it is and reveal them simultaneously. Also, please get Tom on the other side of the table, it'd be great.
11:51 This is the most underrated joke, has literally had me in stitches for a good 10 minutes
Gary is playing a completely different game than the other three
The funny thing is:
"Thats our show"
"We still don't have an outtro"
That! That IS the outtro!
Gary, Chris, and Matt going off on "wiiiiind" is what I've been waiting for since the start of Two Of These People Are Lying. The bonkers near-tangental stuff is what I LOVE about TechDif
I do want to remind Gary, again, that the goal is to CONVINCE you of the truth, not the other way around.
Tom, it might be useful to put the name of the article onscreen as you read them out so the viewers can see the spelling.
I've learned to watch this with the Closed Captioning because I sometimes miss things being said without it being on. That may also help in the mean time
This is my new favourite panel show after Citation Needed. Which I also only discovered this week
the longer the pandemic goes on, the more i miss this show. hope you're all staying safe and socially distanced, lads!
Just a quick pedant's note here quickly.
Sweden, Finland and Norway are not all Scandinavian countries as Finland is not traditionally considered a part of Scandinavia proper, despite being on the Scandinavian peninsula, due to it's historic links to the Baltic states and the various states of Russia through the centuries.
The correct term for the area that includes Sweden, Finland and Norway is either the Scandinavian peninsula or Finnoscandia.
Pedant's note over.
This has to be the best ever. I was so confused when Matt said "no"... I live in Sweden, hence the great confusion.
Watching this a year later and realizing it is recorded at Matt Grays place due to the soft serve ice cream machine hiding in the background.
I'm a simple man. I see Technical Difficulties, I click.
just rewatching these for the nth time when i feel the need to point out how this is now the default game when i think "that show what those technically difficult brits do" it has completely eclipsed citation needed in my mind
Gary is a national treasure. That ending was hilarious!
I just rewatched all of this... I really hope you'll be able to make more of this. =)
This show has definitely improved a lot since season one. A lot more of the silly talents we all loved from Citation Needed.
Clearly the objective of this game is to make the audience to burst out laughing the whole show - thank you for that
"A Mexican wrestler... from Wigan"
... was the point after which it became utterl irrelevant who was actually true and who lied ;)
As a geography nerd which is very particular when it comes to certain things, them calling finland as scandinavia in round 1 just annoyed me
Gary doesn’t necessarily play to win, he plays to make sure Tom loses, and I am absolutely *here* for it. No RagRets
I just love that Gary never takes to heart that if his is the true thing, he's supposed to convince Tom. Always just goes full bluff regardless!
Gary Brannan is a genius and a national treasure
15:30 - Fun fact, the international standard symbol for "tsunami evacuation route" was created at my college in Oregon by a friend's oceanography class professor.
“I want this to be true.” Such beautiful lies. I do too. Congratulations, I’m looking forward to the next series.
Back for my yearly rewatch of all the TOTPAL and Citation Needed episodes
That ending was brilliant
One thing to note, is that in the event of the hurricane evacuations many dual carriageways can be converted into one big one way road out, as in away from the coastal cities, Houston, Galveston etc.
That ending was perfect. cant wait for next season!
Bloody covid...
I would love for this to be brought back
So, Lule Sámi is actually an official language around the Lule river in Sweden, and is spoken by the Sámi people there.
Those coasters do nothing to protect the table.
Typo in description:
Reads: “more confusion that normal”
Should be: “more confusion than normal”
That's obviously due to the confusion though...
"More confusion? That normal!"
Should be: “more confusion. That’s normal!”
I love that he knew exactly what to do to rile Tom up enough to get him to cross it off xD