Are Cat Filters Worth The Money? Are Cat Filters Better?
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- Are Cat filters better than their competitors and worth the extra money that they cost?
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"Your engine is yellow, you should have a yellow filter!" Great point, CAT is a great engine!
This is such common sense. Why don't people get it? Lol ... tripping over dollars for nickles. Nice video.
Same people will have a TOOTH ACHE and say I will just get it pulled or buy a China made oil filter from the 'discount' store saving 3 cents thinking they are 'saving money'....
I worked for a construction company and every piece of equipment had cat filters on them. The shop foreman loved cat filters
I am a new diesel tech and I watch your videos all the time. Good stuff man. Helped me tons and it's very knowledgeable
Very good points, I developed an adapter to put a cat filter on a Duramax, and Ford. After many conversations with a cat representative from the filter factory. The reason Cat started to make their own filters was that metal was being left in the filters after manufacture. When you stamp 1000’s of parts the tooling picks up a magnetic properties and transfers that to the parts, they in turn pick up metal fragments and are in the filters during the assembly process. So the filters we’re putting those particles into the engine. In addition to the spiral roving and the acrylic beads the filter is glued to the aluminum threaded insert and then the outer shell is rolled onto the aluminum threaded insert. So no hard metals could enter the oil system from the filter from stamping process. “Longer life through better filtration”.
Use the Donaldson Blue filter on your duramax it is the best
Tell me what ford engine.
Just curious, want to run cat filters in my 6.0.
It was designed for the ford 6.7.
@@rogerkirkpatrick9057 You interested in selling one? Have an ebay account or something?
@@fredg8199 For the 6.7? I never made anything for the 6.0.
Nearly all CAT filters are made by Donaldson. You should know this ☺️. It´s the Donaldson Endurance serie. I have all the cutaway CAT filters from my time at a Donaldson dealership. By the way, that Donaldson P551311 is a fuel filter
Yip ........ Yellow equipment manufacturers do not make their own filters. In fact, OE's do not make any (or majority) of any parts on any machines they sell. It's all bought out, most of it. So they would need a Filter manufacturer to make their filters. Look ta the filter manufacturers in this video, and as @toyotatechDK said, you might find one of them makes many of the filters for most OE's ...
I never remember the order as the other one I use/have is the P-551000 I think it is, one is water /fuel / the other is fuel filter. which every way they run .
Hey!! My friend long time no see you lol. Good to see you again. In my opinion if my truck work hard without giving me any problems at all and feed my family The least I can do is to treat him the same way by Putting good quality parts, excellent maintenance and a nice wash every week; that way he can be like me super happy when I get my heavy duty pay check 💰 every week because of him.
I use only cat filters and Amsoil full synthetic in my 3406e and c15.
Oil and filters are cheap, engine is not.
Full synthetic seems unnecessary, only real reason to use it is extended intervals and as you say oil is cheap so no reason to extend the interval. I run regular old rotella on 20k mile drains and the cat oil samples say all is well and the oil is still in excellent condition.
I run Amsoil with their filter for the engine oil. Oil analysis every 10,000 miles. Have a little over 40,000 on my current oil. Cat fuel filters.
@@gumps1986 It's good that you're getting your oil analysis every 10K my friend bought a new truck and was working in the oilfield and was running Amsoil and Amsoil filters and changed it religiously every 20,000 miles and his engine blew up at 78,000 miles due to oil contamination according to the dealer so warranty wouldn't cover the engine. Just because Amsoil says that their oil keeps its viscosity for so many miles doesn't mean that it can stay clean for that long. The main reason for changing oil isn't because its worn out you change it because of the contaminants in it which also plugs up filters. I change my oil at 10,000 to 12,000 miles even if I run a high dollar oil.
Well on Caterpillar 3406 all models, C15, ,C16, C18 and 3456E I would recommend CAT 1R-0716 oil filter if oil is normal and wanted to change early.
For good synthetic long drain engine lube oil Caterpillar advanced fuel and oil filters are available like wise lube oil filters 1R-1808 and 275-2604.
Fuel filter 1R-1712 or advanced high efficiency use 1R-0749 along recommend fuel water separator elements and primary filters respectively.
We use to change every 10,000 with rotella oil because we were in the dirt twice as much as pavement
Great information! I did not have any idea about the construction of a CAT filer. Thanks!
Not even a question. Never seen any issues with Donaldson until this video, but CAT first unless you can't get your mitts on one. And for goodness sake change the damn things! Oil, grease & filters are far cheaper than fixing the things they protect.
It's funny If you go to my Cat dealer here a Cat filter is $34 if you go down the street to Kenworth the same Cat filter is $18.
Clyde Acor lol same thing with my Detroit, Donaldson filter 20 bucks a piece and original Detroit oil filter 15. Needless to say I just go with original and not just because of the price either
@@patryk2497 Does Donaldson make the filters for Detroit? But in my situation you would think that Caterpillar would be cheaper than Kenworth for a Caterpillar brand filter. I asked my Caterpillar dealer about it and asked why they were twice as expensive as Kenworth for their own brand and the service manager told me it's because Kenworth orders and sells more filters and I said that may be true but they get them from you! Lol...
Absolutely true...lol... I get all my Cat filters from Kenworth! Kenworth just picked up the "Majestic" oil line also and its selling like crazy. I haven't used the engine oil because i use "Mystic" 15w 50 synthetic blend with a "MotorCote" chaser and they only have 15w 40. But i am using the "Majestic" full synthetic gear and transmission oils and they're great! And the prices are nice on the 5 gallon buckets of the stuff, like 90 sump'em bucks plus tax out the door👍
I get my Cat filters from non dealer, truck supply ... save $$$ ... actually I only get part from dealer that I can't get from my other sources
@@wormwoodfive398 exactly.
Mr Ape, can you do a video on bypass filtration systems? I'm driving myself nuts trying to decide whether to install one or not. Of course there are videos out there but they are from the makers of the systems so of course they are great and worth it. You have a good perspective and don't "sell" anything you explain the merits of something from a fairly neutral position and based upon your experience. Thanks for your channel. Powerstroke owner here. It's not a Cat but it's still a diesel!
Did you go with a bypass system, which one and what engine? I have a Duramax with 100K and am looking at a bypass system: Parker, Insane, probably not Amsoil.
This video should actually be a two part, with this video being "Are Cat filters built better?" and the second video focusing on filtering and flow rate.
Solid construction is all well and good, but filtering quality is just as important. If two filters are equally built, the one with the better filtering ability wins.
Time for the followup video! Filtering and flow rate comparisons.
You do it
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Just found your channel. Although I watched this from the marine perspective, this is really good info. Thanks!
Love ya vids mate. Keep them coming 👍🏻
I recently had my service done at the T/A in Indiana and there was no up charge on the cat filters
Typical reasons other than product defects: There are many possible reasons for the bunching..
*Sticky surfaces caused by cold, highly viscous oil
*Oil contaminated by excessive condensation, coolant or oxidation
*Neglect - extended oil drain and filter change intervals
*Carbon grit that temporarily jams a valve
*Sudden acceleration of the engine with any of the above conditions.
Source: Machinery Lubrication Magazine
Sir I would love to stay this and I state it honestly and happily. I find a large amount of useful information and value in every single one of your videos with very few exceptions. Tell buddy and Piper that a Country Boy loves them.
A lot of FleetGaurd "Cummins" is the same as CAT with the Nylon and we have never ever had a failure ever! Use the Filter that comes on your engine from the factory!!! It will never fail you!
You have a convert! I have a couple of sets of filters in stock but now I'm afraid to use them. In times past I've used Baldwin filters on a 6NZ. So far no "known" oil or fuel issues, but like Mr Frank in this thread has said, "don't trip over dollars to pick up a nickel!!" Thanks for your dedication to keep us informed.
Yeah, because the color of the casing impacts and absolutely determines filtration performance. Yeah
You think this vid would be boring but he keeps it entertaining
Great video! I run oem filters on my cummins powered pickup. I put a cat fuel filter on my deere powered genset. Filters are not the place i want to save.
The facts are that Cat and Donaldson are 50/50 owners in a joint venture company called AFSI ( Advanced Filtration Sales Inc in Illinois)
I didn’t even watch the video but I will tell you, I worked at Donaldson’s plant in Stevens point Wisconsin, they make almost every filter, including cat, so your buying a over priced Donaldson filter if you buy a cat filter, yes they are a tad bit different in number of pleats but same shit that’s it
At my rental yard, for our big ticket items like transports, rollbacks and Cat/JD full size equipment I always run the OEM filters. We don't have dozens and dozens of them, so the minimal added cost is outweighed by the peace of mind. For our hundreds of smaller machines, from skid steers to lawn/garden equipment I have run Wix/Napa (same product) filters for 25 years with zero lubrication related failures. Also, I can get them delivered from almost any parts house, which is convenient. If you are proactive and service your machines regularly, then the likelihood of a collapsed or plugged filter is fairly remote, so the premium attributes of an OEM filter become less of a necessity weighed against the cost of many hundreds of filters per year.
Anything but Fram is my general rule. I use Wix filters on light duty and fleet guards on HD. I have 18000hrs on my engine and runs like new.
Ya-
Me too!
Project Farm channel showed that Fram is a SCAM for 40 years of my life purchases.
I WIX it or NAPA GOLD it for my 1999 Toyota Solara. Nothing but Fleetgaurd for my Cummins N14 too.
But if I had a Caterpillar, I would do what Josh strongly thinks Cat owners should do and I would use a Car filter.
Funnily fram makes better filters than wix
I disagree on CAT filter quality. I am a Frac Mechanic working with T4 3512 engines. I never had a problem with the T3 pumps that ran cartridge filters, but the T4 fuel filters are canister type and they are garbage, seems half of them are cracked and leaking once installed because of the crap manufacturing quality having to do with the drain valve. I have far less issues with the Baldwin brand. Our filters only last about 8 days regardless of whether we use CAT or Baldwin. We monitor the engines and we can tell when the filters need changed.
Thank you. I'll remember this 🤘
i always try to use OEM filters where possible, i think on smaller equipment its not as critical (ie small engines) but larger engines and especially diesel engines i would always try to. the one aftermarket filters i have faith in at least for automotive is the hastings brand
Yellow on Yellow , or be a dirty fellow.
I'm with you on this one stay with the manufacturer
here is where manufacture is NOT always best most manufactures use nominal micron rating and Cat uses absolute micron rating. Understanding the difference is like this. 2micron fuel filter for example nominal mean it will filter like 85% down to 2 micron meaning you can get bigger then 2 micron thru the filter a 2 micron absolute means nothing bigger then 2 micron will get thru
Great video man!
Cat filters are worth every penny. Nice hat.
Crazy thing is cat doesn't make the filters. Iirc Donaldson makes them for caterpillar
Majority of Cat filters are made by the other leading manufactures. The canisters are made that way for other reasons and it's not a cost savings reason. Also, who knows how long the examples went on their oil changes.
We use fleetguard filters. But this video makes since. Thanks josh.
Another excellent video!
Well stated, Josh!
My first viewing of your program was the Bypass review, this is my second. THANK YOU!
Measure thickness with the other end of your vermeers and you may see several thou difference.
I am back!
I do totally agree with this video. I broser-search a engine oil filter for a Caterpillar C15 both Cat brand and Donaldson. The price difference in April, 2022, is $8.09 to $15.00.
Remanufactured prices for third-party companies on the internet for a Caterpillar C15 are $16,500 to $24,500. I will use $18,500.
Let us do some Math
$18,500 remain engine ÷ $15.00 difference in filter listed prices ≈ 1,233. One needs to purchase this many Donaldson filter before said filter causes and engine failure in order to break even.
If change the filter quarterly:
1,233 ÷ 4 ≈ 308 years before a potential payoff in savings occurs.
Madness!
Unless the engine is close to dying, there is no reason to skimp financially on a non-ORM engine oil filter.
if you change your oil on a regular basis you should not have any problems no matter what filter you use
Yes they are worth it in the marine industry I’ve had sea trials and they put like a Baldwin filter secondary and it doesn’t have enough return holes a cat filter has 11 return holes and the aftermarket ones have like eight or nine return holes and that’s taking 50 RPM off the top end at full throttle. And you can get the filters white too.
Thank you for a very informative video. Much Appreciated.
Great video I learned this lesson the hard way. I tried the cheaper filters on my C15 and it shut my truck down and I want do that again.
U want to do that again??
The school i went to for study of truck/bus Diesel mechanics uses fram filters for engine oil, fuel and coolant. The school has 2 trucks with cat engines fitted with twin turbos in it.
Enjoyed the vid and wanted to know where you got your hat?
Cat filters in our area are competitively priced or sometimes cheaper
You're smart. Thanks.
What are your thoughts on the add on or factory equipped centrifugal filters? I bought a used truck that has an aftermarket - T. G. Hudgins centrifugal filter added, this is in addition to the standard spin on paper filters. The oil does seem to stay cleaner and the centrifuge has black carbon looking material on the inside wall when cleaned. They seem to work in my opinion.
One thing to touch on with the cases back in my lube tech days at TA I used to have to fight with a lot of overtightened filters and while almost all the filters would collapse or twist in an attempt to get them loose, cats tended to dent where the metal portion of my strap wrench rested on the filter but otherwise stayed uniform to its original shape
Shit I work at TA and motherfuckers tighten the shit out of filters
Hand tight and a 1/4 turn boys is all she needs
Man you done another top review and i agree with you 1005
i agree man! i work at an international/cummins shop and seen way too many filter failures! which is why we use international and fleetguard filters which are designed for those engines! Cheers!
How important is this on the 6bta? I have one and got wix filters because they are usually good.
@@92powerdiesel61 I wouldnt! wix are a good aftermarket but why would you run one if you can get your hands on a fleetguard? i would only run one if i couldnt get my hands on a fleetguard but its up to you!
@@uprednecked Ok, I've just gotta figure out how to get them. But after seeing this and your recommendation as a cummins tech I won't run anything else.
Also do you like being a diesel tech? I love machines and don't really know what path I'm going to go down.
@@92powerdiesel61 you should be able to get them though any cummins dealer or international/KW or even freightliner dealer! i started as a auto mechanic and was tired of the pay so i switched over to medium/heavy duty and the pay is way better for me! but if you like cars nothing wrong with that! Cheers!
Fleetpride and truckpro carry fleetguard filters as well as donaldson.
Very informative And I was looking into changing the whole filter system. A conversation kit to davco 382.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge, what about diesel fuel # 1 or 2 what is better for engine?
I also think that nylon structure in the middle of the filter has more rigidity than the thin sheet metal the others are made of.
You should do a video on if Lucas actually is worth using with Evey oil change, maybe do an oil sample on break downs of common oil brands such as Mobil, Chevron, Northland etc. We run Northland and 1 gallon of Lucas, fuel filters and airs as needed every 10k miles.
Lucas does exactly what it claims, it's just thicker oil. Far cheaper to just run a thicker oil in the first place then to add Lucas. The thing Lucas does not advertise is running thicker oil also reduces fuel economy, recommend viscosity is the balance for appropriate protection without unnecessary losses as determined by the manufacturer.
On every test I've seen on you tube that includes Lucas it's always last, but if you've never seen those videos go to a Y/T subscriber Project Farm and see for your own. there's a lot more posted by other subscriber where Lucas is included.
If you have to add Lucas to your oil, maybe you should change to a better oil.
I just switched from Shell Rotella T6 5w40, I was very happy with it’s performance, but I’ve heard Schaeffer’s is much better. I just had my oil changed to Schaeffer’s Supreme 9000 5w40 two weeks ago and the tech said the oil felt super slippery when he was putting a bead of oil on the oil filter gasket. He said he’s never felt an oil that slick before! The tech making that comment makes me feel like I made a good choice. I encourage people to research this oil, we all would like our engines to last as long as possible and get a little better fuel economy along the way!
No never buy a fram no no no no
nice video! i always run cat oil filter on my b model, was using cat fuels also but in colder weather they seemed to start to plug , i now use fleetguard for both fuels and cat oil only, what do u think? should i still be using cat for fuel filters on a mechanical?
I've worked for people who were terrible and cheap on maintenance, and others that didn't mind spending money and getting premium parts. You do get what you pay for. I even get the pick up sized oil filter for my car, they're usually a little longer, been doing that for a long time.
Great video. If you change the filter more often it wouldn't collapse like that? or no... It just seems like those distorted pleats are from neglect? However I see your point about the construction differences , JIM
I use CAT filters on my DURAMAX, Engine oil & Fuel Filters
Where do you get them?
I would like to start using CAT filters on my Duramax I have a Chevy 2011 3500HD dually. What CAT Fuel filter do you use?
I wonder if they make one that would fit a 2020 Cummins 6.7 for a RAM 1 ton pickup. But I imagine the OEM filter would be good.
Always instructive....why would anyone compromise? Nothing but yellow on my acert C15
I always have ran Cat fuel, oil, and hydraulic filters on my Cat D6D. On my cars and pickups I use Wix because Acdelco is made by Fram now and I don’t trust Fram.
Wix was great till NAPA bought them. I try to buy OE whenever possible. Bosch is always a quality filter, yet they are hard to find in my area. The box stores love moving the cheap crap with a big price. :(
Edwin Frank I think it’s the other way around, I’m pretty sure WiX owns the Napa brand filters. I’ve cut the WIX and it’s Napa Gold equivalent open, they’re pretty much the same filter. I’ve never tried bosh filters but I heard they were pretty good. I get my filters from a mom and pop parts store and I’ve been buying WIX filters from them for like $5.10 after tax. I very rarely buy stuff from the chain parts store unless it’s an emergency.
@@ed81ny
GPC/NAPA does not own Wix.
Mann+Hummel currently owns and manufactures the filter marketing brands Mann, Wix and Purolator.
Currently, most NAPA filters are manufactured by Mann+Hummel.
In the US almost all Bosch filters are manufactured by United Components/Champion Labs.
@@patw52pb1 that is good news. :)
WIX is/was the only filter to warranty engine damage do to filter failure. I crewed on the WIX FILTERS Top Fuel Dragster and spent a lot of time with the WIX guy.
Well it makes sense. I have learned that OEM filters are built specifically for the application for OEM products. Especially Heavy Duty equipment Yea 3 thousands more meat is huge especially if the metal is hardened. Awesome descriptive as usual Josh. Thanks Man!
Did a tour at Baldwin filters along the way there was an area that was curtained off .looked in side there were Yellow filters being made . Asked the tour guide and he acknowledge the fact that they make Cat filters along with several other manufacturers. To there specs they are they largest filter manufacturers as of 2006 things may have changed
Because Baldwin makes cat filters. Baldwin makes carquest premium filters also.
Josh, I would like to know more about your background in power generation. I am in EPG tech at my local dealership. The reason for me moving from trucks to EPG is the fact that our dealership became an international dealership and no longer had a specifically cat truck shop. I was wanting to know if the same thing is happening in your dealership. Thanks.
One of the cat dealers near me still runs a separate truck shop, but it was about a year ago they got rid of the truck side management and combined it with the ag.
We use to use CAT filters on every one of our CAT engines in equipment at my work. About 6 years ago we had one fail, at the seam (flaw). It was colder outside, me and a co-worker went and started all the equipment before operators showed up... (about 30 machines, not all CAT engines, JD and Cummings mix with CAT). About a hour later we noticed one machine not making "smoke" walked over to it and it wasn't running. Upon further inspection it lost all the oil. We put maybe 3 gallons in it or so. Started it up and noticed it was coming out of the seam where the base is "welded" to the can. The Murphy shut the engine down. But not soon enough, it scattered the CAT-Perkins 6.6 before our eyes. We took this to cat, the repowered engine only had 500 hrs before the scatter, CAT took about 4 months, but they split the new engine cost with us. Which was nice of them I guess, however the company I work for doesn't care about $$$, just downtime. (I work for a really big railroad). However I noticed about a year ago, we are no longer running CAT filters.... IDK... 🤷♂️
I know shit happens, and I'm not talking bad about cat filters. Just saying, maybe we weren't the only crew on our RR to have this happen...?
I only run cat filters one thing I like about cat they stand behind them warranty on that filter if it leaks I replace it plus a gallon of oil they just have a better hold up then most other filters
Cat filters are made by J.A. Baldwin in Kearny, Nebraska; have been for years.
Is it safe to use ATF in diesel or what is better solution to help keep fuel system and injectors lubed and clean.
cat filters are they like the cat liner kits with the used pistons ?
Got a question. I have a 97 LMTV with a 3116. I could purchase a hydraulic powered A/C compressor or buy the brackets to add ta compressor off one of the belts like normal. Which would you recommend?
What is your opinion on smaller displacement deisel engines like the 2.8 duramax or the 3.0 power stroke that they put in half ton and quarter ton trucks
I started running cat filters on my trucks over fleetgaurd from this info alone thanks josh. But what oil do you recommend and is synthetic worth it. I’d like your input, thank you for all the videos.
Used Cat for 28 yrs, never engine failure.
I recommend Cat filters for all, changed fuel filters same time as oil filters
Been using Baldwin filters for 40+ years never had an engine, hydraulic, or transmission failure
Always ran CAT filters after I got a tour of their filter manufacturing factory in IL...made a believer out of me.
Well, they don't make them there anymore, the last 3 sets of Cat filters I bought were made in The Czech Republic. Hope they are made to the same specs.
I must like to stir things up, I used a bypass filter & Mobil DelVac oil changed bypass & serviced the truck every 10,000 miles. Main filter every 40,000 miles. Changed the oil every year. Sold the truck with 1,227,000 miles, never been inside the engine, original king pins & bushings.
Saw a lot of series 60 go over a million miles before overhaul. Don't think I ever saw a Cat do that. Saw a lot of Cats around 800 thousand sink number six liner in the block and blow out the water.... overhaul time.
Omg I was inspecting a cheap filter the other day and found a loose burr on the threads from the machine process. Couldn't believe it. Inspect your filters no matter what brand they are. CAT looks stout didn't care for the, "Nylon" center afraid it could melt during an overheat condition. Just my opion great video thx.
The end cap on a cat filter is far superior to any of the other offerings as well.
I just changed my 2 FASS tall filters on my Cumins Dodge. The front of the front filter had taken a couple hits that slightly dented the filter, and the rear of the back filter also had 2 minor dents… stronger steel exterior sounds better to me now!
Btw, I do forest service roads getting firewood and a fair bit of gravel roads, and the FASS tall filters hang slightly lower than the surrounding metal. The back of the back filter dents did surprise me.
I think I’m converted to be a Cat filter believer.
You have to look at the filters ratings cats aren't always even a decent option for some things.
I get my Cat filters for half price so that's all I get. If you play your cards right every year Cat has a half price filter sale buy them when they are on sale and get a years worth. It's normally in January February.
I havet experienced problems whit Baldwin filters that they crack att the topp were the steel off the tube is edge around the topp flat steel. Fleet Guard filters are good aftermarket filters
Hmmm go for 🐈 CAT Caterpillar original high efficiency spiral filters. I believe, Makes sense... Save cents... $ 😎
at first I didn't really believe in filter brands until 2 Cat D11 dozers came in for a service. I changed a steering filter on one dozer with a after market filter that had 2k hours. the filter element was completely melted down and left crap in the steering. the other dozer had a cat filter that also had 2k hours on the filter completely intact, a little brown, due to wear but no crap in the system. yeah also i hate seeing the white donaldson filters on the truck cat engines. they sometimes don't also fit right while the cat ones always fit 100% with no problems
Donaldson blue series has been the best I’ve ever used. And the fact that Donaldson makes cat filters
Doesn't matter who makes it if they make it to different specs.
I have a fuel pressure gauge and I used a white fuel filter (not sure what brand) and I noticed after just 7-8k miles the fuel pressure started to build up. I've never had that problem when using cat filters.
My fuel pressures/back pressures are minimal as I have not noticed any of such!
Great video,question,wondering how many miles or hours are on those filters that are collapsed?
I change my 3406B every 12,000 or 13,000 miles,and I use cat filter sometimes and usually the Baldwin,or Donaldson. Wow,but now I am using strictly cat from here on out. I have ran the same truck and motor since 1996 it was overhauled in 2006, and I just did rods, and mains, last year,and installled a used ,good as new cam,and same injectors since 2006, I guess I would never known if I had a collapsed filter ever,all these years.
I know this is a old video but Cat filters are made by Donaldson and Baldwin are made by Parker. Either one is great but the if you fail to maintain the filters they will all fail. Abuse is just that and no filter will hold up. Parker and Donaldson filters are the best on the market so either way you can't go wrong. I run Baldwin/Parker because I'm on the national filter pricing which is a huge savings. Do with the information as you choose.
Could the collapsed filters be pointing to a biger problem? A failed delta Pressure valve?
My thinking
Filth could only collapse an oil filter if the pressure differential valve failed... it is designed to bipass at 9psig(cummins B model spec I had a valve fail and split the oill cooler) to prevent dry starts on those cold winters when the plug is not used. Yes it'll start but should not be run cold. AKA excessively cold oil =unfiltered oil till the viscosity drops to a 9psi delta (more dirty/used up filter =higher temperatures before the filter is back in the loop)
The cause of the media collapse is most likely a malfunctioning bypass valve that allowed a high differential pressure across the media membrane.
Also most likely to occur with moderate to high engine RPM at startup continuing until warmup with high viscosity lube oil on an unheated engine.
I have never had one problem with Baldwin filters
He did say such extreme failures are rare.
I knew cat filters would be better I mean cat makes better stuff any day of the week. Like that oil commercial " Guy 1 "it was cheaper" guy 2 "it's that all your engine is worth to you ?"
Haha, I bought a truck with white filters for my cat. I totally agree. looks bad.
I should get one of those for my jeep. If it fits.
The blemished filter was a Amsoil! Ouch😢
USSINDYBOY Z Amsoil makes the best motor oil but their filters eh there’s room for improvement.
Firebird 87622 apparently. I’ve been trusting their filters for years😖
Looks like someone took the extended oil change a bit too far.
Should do a video on an oil bypass filter setup.
If simply adding another filter did everything claimed by the marketing departments they would be on all trucks from the factory as bragging rights for cost of ownership reduction.
Jay Dunbar you can order them from the factory , I have them on my KW & Pete’s and on the Allison trans.
Factory doesn’t give anything for free.
If engine manufacturers put bypass oil filters on they wouldn’t make any money from broken parts, hence why cummins never put bypass filters on, c-12 cat engine for example has cat bypass oil filter! C-15 filter is ful flow and bypass in 1!
Volvo have 2 full 1 bypass standard!
Any manufacturer without one is chasing money in spare parts
I'm having to change my oil filters around 8k miles due to low oil pressure. Soon as i change the filter or the oil and filter the pressure goes back up. Do you recognize this problem?
Doing oil samples with different filters I haven’t seen a big difference between oem, Donaldson, Baldwin, fleet filter. Just what I have tested. Seems if they wasn’t doing their job the samples would have came back bad with more metal in them.
Wow I am surprised by the donaldson! That cat filter looks tough.
Hi how can I get you to do my valve adjustment on my c15 cat ? Please let me know.
I'm a O/O and use factory filters on my 3406B. My buddy runs a Ford Diesel pickup and only uses Motorcraft on his truck.... He hasn't had issues most guys have had with his truck, my 3406B rarely has any problems, although I'm doing rods n mains along with a oil pump this week, 400K on a rebuild the mechanical cats need a lil more pampering. easier to spend a couple grand than 10's of thousands
Fuel filters are more mission critical than oil filters. Especially on the high pressure common rail systems. Your buddy is smart.