What Is The "Best" RPM To Run A Diesel Engine At? Torque vs. Horsepower?

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  • In this video we are discussing what is the best rpm range to run a Diesel Engine at. This includes the discussion of how Torque and Horsepower are related, how Torque and Horsepower are produced and there is even a Destruction of the Week hidden in the video. Thanks for watching.
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  • @billmoran3812
    @billmoran3812 3 ปีที่แล้ว +111

    Josh, as an engineer, I have to commend you on your thorough knowledge of the engineering principles of engine design.

    • @theperson185
      @theperson185 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Bill, as a mechanic, i have to commend you for putting oil filters bolts and sensors in ass backwards spots

    • @another183
      @another183 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@theperson185 ouch

    • @MacMilly707
      @MacMilly707 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@theperson185 🤣

  • @hugoboyce7241
    @hugoboyce7241 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    "They tried to clean it with a shovel, or a stick of dynamite" lol

    • @electric7487
      @electric7487 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Or a sledgehammer.

  • @xxxmikeyjock
    @xxxmikeyjock 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    I never see a mechanic get this correct. when roilling down the road with low engine load, sure take the rpm down lower, but any time you are pulling hard let it eat with a bunch of rpm. your fuel economy will be far better then a dummy lugging up a hill at 1200rpm with a ton of egt. the pyro will tell you how to drive the truck better then a tachometer

    • @FDHuston61473
      @FDHuston61473 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Keep those revs up. 👍

    • @GIGABACHI
      @GIGABACHI 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      EGT is the real whistle blower. Observe it at ALL TIMES. 👌😎👍

    • @jonytube
      @jonytube 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Same goes for any engine, really. I've had friends who were baffled as to why I'd downshift on steep inclines when my car would chug along just fine otherwise. I see people constantly lugging their engines and then wonder why their MPG isn't as good as it could be or in some cases why have turbos and so on go kablamo prematurely. Lol. Go figure.
      This is also a bit of an excuse for me to let her rip a bit every now and again:)

    • @V8Lenny
      @V8Lenny 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jonytube EGT doesnt matter as long as it is not too high , and it is never too high if engine is kept stock. Less air through engine , higher EGT , lower pumping losses , better fuel economy.

    • @rbruce63
      @rbruce63 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      On my 1999 Toyota HiAce with the 2L engine with 2,400 cc of displacement and 450,000 Km, unladen, on a 5% grade, I used to floor the gas pedal on 5th gear. This seemed counter intuitive! However, I read once in a Diesel course book that I purchased, that the Diesel engine was more efficient to run at full throttle under load. Not having a tachometer on this version of light truck, much less an EGT gauge, the only indicator that the engine was making too much effort was seeing the water temperature go from 3/8 to 1/2 of its operating range. Now depending on the traffic I run the engine I fourth or third gear and keep the pace…

  • @behroozkhaleghirad
    @behroozkhaleghirad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I'm a colleague of you from Iran, and man do I enjoy it when I see that someone speaks with knowledge. All you said was correct, and you earnt yourself a new subscriber.
    Basically:
    Best fuel economy: torque span
    Best accelration: max torque to max HP
    Very low RPM with heavy load: destruction of engine

  • @janosvarga962
    @janosvarga962 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    University level explanation of a topic. Clear and understandable even for the masses. Another great diesel video.

  • @larrytalley117
    @larrytalley117 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    For my 2004 Cat C7, in my 40' motorhome, I allow the Allison Automatic transmission to pick the best RPM and Gear, UNTIL, starting to climb a grade...then I watch the coolant temp very carefully and if the engine starts to drop below 1500 rpm, and the temp starts to climb, I manually select a lower gear which allows the rpm to go up to about 2000 to 2100 rpm, and let the speed drop. Usually the "sweet spot" is 3rd gear, 2000 rpm, and the speed will be about 35 rpm. This is what works for my motorhome, but the best rule of thumb is reduce the gear, until the vehicle can accelerate up the grade, then reduce the throttle until you get down to the sweet spot. At the "sweet spot" the engine is generating enough torque to climb, and most importantly the fan is spinning fast enough to push enough air through the radiator to keep the engine cool. Everyone wins! Josh, thanks for another great diesel video. BTW I love the special effects.

    • @mikeobrien3744
      @mikeobrien3744 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Good explanation. Always a sweet spot, you just have to find it.

    • @roadtoad7704
      @roadtoad7704 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is what I do with my N14 Cummins. Sure, I lose some upgrade speed but I'm rewarded with 1,500,000 miles of no problems, overhauls or bearing wear. We pulled them at 1.3 million and reinstalled 👍

  • @gpam03
    @gpam03 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    that was the best and easiest to understand explanation of torque and horsepower ive seen, and ive seen and read a lot, and ive been around a while. great work.

  • @acemobile9806
    @acemobile9806 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    EXCELLENT video Josh. I get asked the same question by boat owners all the time, outboards, cruisers with small or big blocks, some with yachts & 3208s, 3406s, etc. I have always deferred to looking up rated tq/hp specs at respective RPMs & tell them to split the difference. Those who have followed my advice seem to never have problems & report favorable fuel consumption numbers. Looks like my theory wasn't far off...
    Next 1 that asks, I'm gonna start this video & hand them the phone.

  • @david1967able
    @david1967able 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    You have answered questions I’ve had for a long time. Thanks for the great content!

  • @johnnylightning1491
    @johnnylightning1491 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you for that explanation, it's the first time I've heard a good explanation of the relationship between torque an horsepower. Keep the good stuff coming.

  • @guyconnell2250
    @guyconnell2250 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    On a couple Harley forums I have joined, it comes up every once in a while, "what RPM is lugging?" Too many variables as you say. Uphill? Downhill? Part throttle? Full throttle? Road speed? Parking lot speed? Cruising speed? Headwind or crosswind? Tailwind? To me, at cruising, an engine speed at which increase in throttle position produces an appreciable unlabored increase in engine speed and road speed is not lugging. Best explanation of torque vs horsepower I have seen on TH-cam to date by the way.

    • @ethanb2554
      @ethanb2554 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree I could never wrap my head around the fact that TQ went down while HP went until he mentioned the valves, then my head exploded 😃

    • @michaeltaylors2456
      @michaeltaylors2456 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      This was what I was taught in my oilfield driving job, if it cannot gain RPM with additional throttle it’s lugging and you’d best downshift now

    • @holmes1956O
      @holmes1956O 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lugging is always in regard to loaded rpm even on a motorcycle. Your passenger has to be pretty heavy to lug your engine through a parking lot

  • @martinbrousseau2560
    @martinbrousseau2560 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    You just explained why Gale Banks of Banks Power wants to turn a 2,000 RPM Diesel to turn up to 7-8,000 RPM... Thank You.

  • @ryanfisher6402
    @ryanfisher6402 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Dude you have one of the smoothest voiceovers ever!

  • @officialweldingfarmingarch2041
    @officialweldingfarmingarch2041 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    DESTRUCTION OF THE WEEK IS BACK!! Ahhhhhhh yeah

    • @robertstetson4077
      @robertstetson4077 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you don't mind me asking what happened to your new you tube channel

  • @giggiddy
    @giggiddy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love these topics. Nice length video and really enjoy your deep explanations.

  • @iamthemoss
    @iamthemoss 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Always enjoy your videos, I own my first diesel and have always loved diesels for some reason.

  • @billnlori3149
    @billnlori3149 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I have found that my Pyro temp stays lower when I work my 6NZ at a higher RPM. More air though the engine.
    Also, I have talked with transmission rebuilders and they say they are noticing more wear with the "gear fast, run slow" spec trucks. All that torque wears stuff out in the trans and diffs.

    • @holmes1956O
      @holmes1956O 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That low rpm is also what takes head gaskets out and causes liners to drop. Find the sweet spot that your engines runs well at and run there. A cat 3406 sweet spot is between 1400 and 1800 rpm. Run there and your engine will last at least 1 million miles with good maintenance

    • @auseeker726
      @auseeker726 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@holmes1956O I try not to go below 1500 rpm at all but we pulling 190 odd tonnes. Kenworth T909 super quads in Australia. They are fun to drive..these are driven on the road with other vehicles. We are limited to 90 kms/hr and they are 60 metres long.

    • @crabmansteve6844
      @crabmansteve6844 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@auseeker726 Man those are amazing. I want to see a road train so bad but we don't have any in the US.
      Most we're legally allowed to pull iirc are doubles

  • @nobenznofun9139
    @nobenznofun9139 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent vid on the pros and cons of each scenario love that channel

  • @Smiling_mike
    @Smiling_mike 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really appreciate your sharing your knowledge of diesels and explaining it so even I understand! 👍🇺🇸👍

  • @scruffy6151
    @scruffy6151 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very information and explained well.
    Let's not forget the boom lol nice touch.

  • @moondogdieselworks3883
    @moondogdieselworks3883 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You never bore me you are a wealth of information, I watch every on of your videos to the end. How about a 3306 fuel injection pump episode, specifically the one that came in the mep007b military generator

  • @codyleonardo8324
    @codyleonardo8324 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Awesome video. I love watching your videos I’m always learning something. You make awesome videos. You should do a tool box tour next. Love to see the set up you have being the kind of mechanic you are.

  • @VladGoro25
    @VladGoro25 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I knew all of that stuff, but your explanation is one of the best over the internet! There is trucker on YT, doing heavy stuff and runnin it's 15L Cummins uphills at 13-1100 rpm....he doesn't know that he should do 14-1600. It will be better for the engine and even for fuel (cause slower speeds (i mean really slow) means lover gear and higher rolling resistanse)

  • @bryanwilliams9589
    @bryanwilliams9589 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video today Josh!

  • @antonpandoursky9790
    @antonpandoursky9790 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very informative video like always, Josh🙂The only thing I'm thinking is when you said that running at higher rpm won't make a significant difference in fuel mileage, but running at lower speed will give a better mpg.Yes,and lower speed means lower rpm 😁

  • @merlinmonson2133
    @merlinmonson2133 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very well explained. Thank you

  • @mikeobrien3744
    @mikeobrien3744 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I drive myself crazy trying to explain torque and horsepower to people. You did a nice job. I run my cars and trucks at what I feel is the harmonic balance. Never had a car or truck that didn't have a speed where everything was harmonically "happy" at "x" speed. People think I am weird, but my stuff don't break.

    • @joesalazar770
      @joesalazar770 ปีที่แล้ว

      So true it is an individual engine thing and that's how it is. I've told many the same thing simple terms. Torque is the number generated according to a rotating mass. The heavier the mass the more torque you can generate oh and if u get into the laws of physics think about an airplane moving at 800 miles an hour engines maxed out. Hint. Ok a engine loaded max used apintof fuel at full load not changing full load running at 50 mph. U get 10 mpg increase your speed to 150 mph what will change only the amount of mph. Not your fuel economy. Think real hardon this it's been backwards for a long time. Load is load max fuel is max fuel it's gets very interesting. Could research this forever.

  • @speed150mph
    @speed150mph 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    As a locomotive mechanic, I love explaining this to people. One of hour engines makes 4500 hp at 950 rpm. Compare this to a top fuel dragster which makes 11,000 hp at 9500 rpm.
    We make almost 25,000 lb-ft of torque while a dragster only makes 6000.
    This means two things. Firstly, due to the rpm involved and the fact that they have 500 cubic inches compared to the 11,000 cubic inches of our engine means that their engine may have almost triple our power but wouldn't have even a quarter of our pulling power. Secondly, our engines are designed for a sustained output load. We can make 4500 hp for hours and hours. Technically barring mechanical failure and refuelling we could hold that power level nonstop. A top fuel dragster can hold that power output for a matter of seconds, and with the frequency in which they blow up on the track it's clear that's pushing the limit

    • @PistonAvatarGuy
      @PistonAvatarGuy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Actually, the dragster engine would have more than double the pulling power. That's the whole purpose of the horsepower rating, to describe how much work can be done (like the work of pulling something) in a given timeframe. Alternatively, the dragster engine could pull the same load more than twice as fast as the locomotive engine.

    • @electric7487
      @electric7487 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "One of hour engines makes 4500 hp at 950 rpm"
      Is this an EMD 710?

    • @speed150mph
      @speed150mph 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@electric7487 can be either a 710 or a GEVO-T4. They both put out about 4500 hp at 950 rpm.

    • @electric7487
      @electric7487 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@speed150mph While the 710 and GEVO are great engines, I wish they kept making the 7FDL (which you can find in the AC4400) as well in the US and Canada. But it would be used for things like marine propulsion and and power generation and would come with a DEF system (to avoid the use of EGR which is way inferior to DEF systems) to take care of NOx emissions.
      The FDL is interesting because it is one of the few V engines with master/slave con rods, and it has been in production for around 80 years. This is the longest production run for any Diesel engine I've ever heard of.

    • @speed150mph
      @speed150mph 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@electric7487 having worked on the FDL and the GEVO, I'd rather work on the GEVO. For one, the intake and exhaust and water piping is alot more reliable and easier to deal with when changing power assemblies. The master/slave Rod isn't that great. It makes it way harder to change the piston/rod assembly, especially when it's the master side that's gone. On top of that I'm not going to even consider how many failures I've seen where the bolts snapped off on the slave rod and knocked the rod through the cam and out the side.
      Also NOx is just one of the emissions that is dictated by tier 4 specs. In order to meet them in the tier 4 it was more than just adding EGR. The entire Gevo engine from the block up had to be completely reengineered. The fuel system needed to be upgraded, injection pressures boosted, manifold pressure increased, cooling system and oiling system revamped. The changes required to make a FDL tier 4 compliant, if even possible, would mean it wouldn't even resemble an FDL anymore

  • @falcon8553
    @falcon8553 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I truly enjoy your videos. Your able to put this information to simple 1 + 1 = 2.

  • @theautomotivegarage
    @theautomotivegarage 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for Great Informative and Educational Video. Time to Learn new Information : )

  • @robpeters5204
    @robpeters5204 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    My uncle taught me to always match your rpm’s with your road speed. His equipment always looked like it came off the showroom floor.
    While most of the guys would be driving the piss out of their trucks during the day, he would be right there with them using less fuel, less wear and fatigue on his truck.

    • @prabhathmbbs2012
      @prabhathmbbs2012 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      What do you mean by matching RPM with road speed?

    • @sasquatchcrew
      @sasquatchcrew ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@prabhathmbbs2012 I wonder if its the needles.

  • @johndavidwolf4239
    @johndavidwolf4239 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The owners manual of a a car I had years ago said "Drive in the highest gear that gives you the acceleration you want". Using the engine you showed data for, lets say that you were on a road that was perfectly level, and for legal reasons you had to go at exactly 50 MPH, and in those conditions the vehicle requires exactly 200 HP to counteract the air drag, it would be okay to be in a gear that caused the engine to spin at 1,050 rpm as the engine would only be producing 1000 LB-FT of torque, or 57% of what the engine is rated for, if the road started to have a slight uphill grade, the HP required would go up you would need to give it more "gas" to maintain the same speed until the pedal is about 7/8 down (as a general rule of thumb, when below running the 'max torque RPM' [in this case 1200], depress the pedal no more than the ratio of the RPM you are at to the Max torque RPM, [1050÷1200=.875=7/8]) , at which point you would downshift to bring the RPM up.

  • @jeffreysheldrake7943
    @jeffreysheldrake7943 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Running a working tractor ploughing it was up to the temperature. Free spinning and the correct gear selection is important.

  • @somborn
    @somborn 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the explanation 👍

  • @truckingjamaicans5045
    @truckingjamaicans5045 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice vid Josh

  • @Inspironator
    @Inspironator 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great short answer!

  • @renacimientoargentino7515
    @renacimientoargentino7515 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It also depends a lot on the compression ratio, in the Cat c18 with 14:1 compression ratio the sweet spot where there's the lowest fuel consumption is between 1400 and 1600 RPM, similar with the C15 and 3406 with 16:1 compression.
    For the Road use ones which are the C18s with 16.5 :1 and C15 with 18.5:1 compression is between 1200 and 1400RPM, with higher compression the torque curve moves down, but there's also higher pressure and temperature, at 1800 RPM which is normal in marine engines the cylinder head would overheat and crack, while the low compression C15 can go rather well in the 2000RPM before head overheating problems

  • @szymoozz
    @szymoozz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow incredibly informative. I understood how intercoolers and turbos affected an engines power but I didn't understand some of these seamingly simple points.

  • @openroadamerica
    @openroadamerica 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    excellent video!!! Very helpful

  • @kiwidiesel
    @kiwidiesel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I used to drive a Kenworth K100E with a 3406B that had a nice little increase in fuel pressure prior to me getting it. On an extended climb that thing would pull down to 1000rpm an have egt at 560 which was well in the yellow but regardless of how much steeper that climb got, that beautiful cat engine wouldn't lose a single rpm more. The exhaust stream out the top was like a jet exhaust pipe roaring due to gas velocity and always had a nice black haze to it where it was running slightly rich of peak. Needed that heat tho when she was cold wouldn't quite pull a planet like when it was on the boil at that 98 deg C water temp. Would recover from that 1000rpm with a vengeance at the top too. Aint nothing like a caterpillar engine!

    • @roadtoad7704
      @roadtoad7704 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      EGTs at 560*? 😳 That sounds really really low for those conditions. Every Cat I've driven would be over 900* if I did that.

    • @kiwidiesel
      @kiwidiesel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@roadtoad7704 sorry I had referenced it in celsius which my egt was callibrated to, thTs 1060 deg f.

    • @roadtoad7704
      @roadtoad7704 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@kiwidiesel That's fine. Actually, it's on me. "Kiwi" in your screen name should have told me "Oh, OK. Maybe he meant Celsius."

    • @jameslast7555
      @jameslast7555 ปีที่แล้ว

      Couldn't afford a Cummins Aye!!

  • @jcjc2593
    @jcjc2593 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My 3406E 1LW is currently at 475HP 1750Lbs torque
    I like to run it between 1200rpm and 1500rpm when shifting gears at flat roads and when I hit the hill I keep it at 1700rpm max depending on the load I'm carrying
    I try as you said just the necessary rpms no more no less and I never push the right pedal to the floor,never...
    I've been having this truck for 7 years by now and it has more than a 1 million miles on it,I don't know if it was rebuilt before it came to my country (Costa Rica) but it is the best truck I've ever had...
    I always thought that if you drive your truck at the lower rpms needed you'll get more durability because it isn't turning everything up and wasting torque and if lower rpm speed then longer the engine will last...
    As always very good video pretty informative and interesting facts...
    Keep them coming...

    • @bizim_eller
      @bizim_eller 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is how you drive, I was even more cautious going up to 1700 rpm but occasionally I did it🙂✌️

  • @powerdiesel8639
    @powerdiesel8639 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Olá , sou aqui do Brasil , eu vejo teus vídeos sempre ,, eles são ótimos ,vc explica bem , tank you.

  • @brianhurt3801
    @brianhurt3801 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video

  • @vandipradiktya2839
    @vandipradiktya2839 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    great explanation

  • @dnailit385
    @dnailit385 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    wish I could give you billion views on this on here.... Also wish I could sit in a class taught by you

  • @damirvasiljkovic5767
    @damirvasiljkovic5767 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just wanna say thank you for sharing your knowledge and and in doing so helping people. I made a little donation for you at PayPal. God bless you.

    • @AdeptApe
      @AdeptApe  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I saw that, thank you very much. I didn't see an email from you, but I'm glad you left a comment.

  • @grouprocox
    @grouprocox 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done! Engineering Explained did a similar video going in depth on HP vs TQ and acceleration using similar and derivative equations

  • @aaronmoody8043
    @aaronmoody8043 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Yes, new vid. I’m learning all about Cats, since I’m about to buy a 94 Pete 379 with a 425 horse Cat

  • @colonelmann
    @colonelmann 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was just wondering this very thing today, as the auto transmission on my Cummins was running around 2500

  • @davidwalle5025
    @davidwalle5025 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    good video on torque and horsepower.

    • @j.daniels7429
      @j.daniels7429 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Regardless of rpm in whatever gear, it takes the same # of revolutions to go a same distance. Running at a lower rpm does not save revolutions for the said distance.

  • @cranerigging3604
    @cranerigging3604 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    1800 RPM on trucks ,farm tractors and bull dozers is the sweet spot on our equipment .

    • @jaydunbar7538
      @jaydunbar7538 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      "Sweet spot" can mean so many things, best fyel economy and best power will be very different rpms and both could be described as the sweet spot.

  • @hoost3056
    @hoost3056 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Depends on many things, but Cats like 1400-1600 rpm most of the time ( big block Cats.....15L and up ). The Series 60 Detroit I drive likes to be between 1550-1650 rpms in the flatland and 1800-1900 pulling a grade. Gets best mpg between 1450-1650 in 1:1 direct

  • @MarkSmith-zt2zl
    @MarkSmith-zt2zl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Along with piston speed based on stroke, you would have to consider piston acceleration, dwell at TDC and BDC. Short stroke motors have shorter duration dwell and high acceleration rates that generate high G loads that don't favor high mass components.

  • @1958johndeere620
    @1958johndeere620 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I miss my 3406B. It was low power,,,,,310 but man it would pull hard at 1150 and keep going. I had a pilled up 3406b in another truck, but would fall off the turbo lower then 1300.

  • @daveyb2552
    @daveyb2552 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you.

  • @Brian-nt1hh
    @Brian-nt1hh ปีที่แล้ว

    Understood, thank you

  • @jondrew55
    @jondrew55 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    10:59 picasso animates the combustion cycle

    • @AdeptApe
      @AdeptApe  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Lol, more like someone with no art skills animates the combustion process.

  • @nourdeen5901
    @nourdeen5901 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi BR,
    First of all Thank u for all informative videos.
    Quick question plz, I have 2012 freightliner cascadia dd15, I do see blue smoke coming from exhaust, it doesn't happens everyday just once a week or in 2 weeks. I noticed that mostly when I'm loaded. I have no check engine and oil level never drop from oil change to oil change. No leaks and no turbo leaks.
    I been trying a lot of shops but no one could get to the point specially when I'm at the shop and truck has no smoke at all, they couldn't figured out.
    1 guys told me maybe is bad fuel.
    What do u think Josh?

  • @ShainAndrews
    @ShainAndrews 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thought the answer was always another question. Who owns the machine? Company machine? On the mat as often as possible, it has a rev limiter.

    • @aussiebloke609
      @aussiebloke609 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Same as how all rental cars are offroad-capable, while simultaneously being the fastest cars in the world. :-D

    • @outdoor044
      @outdoor044 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@aussiebloke609 Rentals are also good for pulling stumps out.

    • @giggiddy
      @giggiddy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@outdoor044 lolololol 🤣

    • @wyatttipton9957
      @wyatttipton9957 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Facts, working for spectrum that little nissan four cylibder was at 6200 all day

    • @AdeptApe
      @AdeptApe  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That poor engine.

  • @codydietrich4246
    @codydietrich4246 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done sir!! I'm trying to find this exact same video for gasoline engines but I cannot. I just got my engine rebuilt it's a 97 5.7 litre vortec and it's a 5-speed manual so I can select what RPM I choose to drive it around in. And I can't seem to find the specs from GM.

  • @JeffMTX
    @JeffMTX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    when you tighten a bolt, (torque x angle through which you turn) is energy.
    you put energy in, where'd it go? A little to heat, but most of it is stored in the tension that you leave on the bolt. youre stretching it like a spring. (now here's the good part:)
    energy is in joules. power is in joules per second, ie watts. plot how many joules you've put into that bolt, over the time you turned it- that'll be a line that goes up with each second, cuz you keep on turning and keep on adding stored energy to the bolt. then the slope of that curve is how much power you were applying (how many joules per second) at every instant. HP is also power. 1 hp is exactly the same as 746 Watts.

  • @TheMarcosgoulart97
    @TheMarcosgoulart97 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    In my truck peak torque comes at 1800 rpm and peak hp at 3500rpm....I just cruise at 2000 rpm....no stress for it and plenty of power

    • @briantruck2284
      @briantruck2284 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      1500

    • @dieselgeezer18
      @dieselgeezer18 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      cruising does not put much stress on the engine. You can safely run it at much lower RPM. I usually cruise at 1200RPM. redline is 4500RPM, peak torque 2000RPM. When i give it throttle at 1200RPM it accelerates which means i am not lugging the engine while cruising

  • @wmonroe21
    @wmonroe21 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Josh: I own a couple of Mercedes 240Ds, and work on the engines by myself, with a certain degree of success. However, after refurbishing the fuel injectors (new nozzles and all) a few years back, now I got reason to believe they’re now popping at a lower pressure, reducing horsepower as time goes by. There are no leaks and workmanship is fine, and I fear the issues are either the chims or spring metal fatigue.
    What are your thoughts on that? I’m looking at replacing them, again, after only 35,000 miles. Valves checked fine. Fuel filters are new. But power is really down an efficiency dropped from 31 mpg to 20.
    Any suggestions?
    G

  • @Knuckledragnation
    @Knuckledragnation 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello Mr. Ape. I’m digging the channel as I think it’s extremely informative. Especially for a guy like myself who knows very little about Diesel engines and how they work.
    With that said do you or have you done any videos of say non-commercial use Diesels , or do I dare say Ram 6.7 diesels in particular?
    Reasons I ask is because I noticed you had videos of a used Chevy truck, an electric bike, normal bicycle & because you guessed it I own a Ram 3500 DRW Diesel.
    Anyways there are very few channels out there that explain things and go into depth the way you do all while speaking in a way so a Knuckle dragging Neanderthal like myself can understand.
    Thanks for the videos!
    ✌🏽

  • @mwhitelaw8569
    @mwhitelaw8569 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some damn sweet dpf's man
    Wholly hell

  • @jaquigreenlees
    @jaquigreenlees 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wet exhaust marine diesels are better. No DPF or DEF. Why would you need either when they are sucking water from outside the boat, running it through the heat exchanger then dumping it into the exhaust system. This both cools the exhaust and captures any particles in it.
    a dry stack is no different than a diesel on a truck DPF/DEF required.
    Josh, I know the old 2 stroke Detroits had a TT option on many of them, TT being tuned turbo which was to make the engines sip fuel at 1800 rpm.
    Is there any way to set a Cat engine like this?

  • @Cliff_P
    @Cliff_P 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Also wondering about wear vs rpm. Or piston speed. More of constant rpm situation.

  • @gabrielgutierrez8580
    @gabrielgutierrez8580 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, i have a question wich gasket kit recomend, to assembly the engine head on a cat c15 engine

  • @tonyford9883
    @tonyford9883 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    great video👍🏾 i run cattle and we tend to run our B model up around 1750 1800 ish loaded and then unloaded i like to run 14-1500ish but seems to me the ole B likes to run up a little high i've seen her take 1850-1900 pulling heavy and have PLENTY of power on top end

  • @sahilbassi7702
    @sahilbassi7702 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey I have a Cat C15 MBN 475hp. It is loosing boost in the hills. What can be the problem. Please let me know what to do.

  • @johnhull6363
    @johnhull6363 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    If it's a Detroit. On the floorboard. But cat on a long pull I'd say at peak hp, but other conditions...peak torque

    • @elijahrobinson2362
      @elijahrobinson2362 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That s ONLY for the old V engines. The inline (Series 60 and newer) are not 2 stroke engines.
      Totally different design.
      For any engine on a long pull, peak torque. That’s what keeps you rolling. HP is more for the acceleration.

    • @MrTheHillfolk
      @MrTheHillfolk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@elijahrobinson2362 once a year I get to hear that sweet song of a 2 stroke Detroit.
      I hardly believe my ears at first.
      My town highway dept has a leaf pickup truck that still runs one.

  • @lignow9762
    @lignow9762 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks A A. How about the c7 that turns at 2475 rpm. Thanks.

  • @mitchless1589
    @mitchless1589 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    A high torque load at low rpm is hard on everything from rod and main bearings to transmission and rearends.

  • @Mikheno
    @Mikheno 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Max torque on my '02 Dodge/Cummins HO is at 1600rpm. For what it's worth the engine seems to just purr at around 1750rpm or so. Also, if you hit a hill etc and rpm wants to drop...it drops right back into peak torque and easily pulls itself back to 1750. I will force a downshift if I see a steep hill coming up (moderate load with full time camper and gear) but generally the engine seems to hold it's own in CC with little effort. Fuel mileage alone might tell you your best rpm.

  • @garypeatling7927
    @garypeatling7927 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any ideas why some deisels I've disassembled the piston ring groves are worn out often tenth of inch have read to much low rev load

  • @hookergetlucky3216
    @hookergetlucky3216 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yep, I would run a c15 between 1500 and 1800. On flat ground 1600 and in the hills I would be 1800 hitting an ascent. At the crest of the hill experienced guys will back off on the fuel to get more torque and prevent whipeing your feet, mine is a simplified explanation. I am not a mechanic but have driven for a few decades in heavy haul.

  • @imtheonevanhalen1557
    @imtheonevanhalen1557 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have an old Case IH 255, and it will not stall at 1500 rpm's, and get's amazing fuel efficiency. How do you keep the oil clean in the darn things?

  • @albi2k88
    @albi2k88 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What power is good explains torque on wheels chart for every gear. It shows that torque on wheels on 3rd gear is bigger on max power RPM than o 4th on max torque RPM at the same vehicle speed.

  • @johnbarham7718
    @johnbarham7718 ปีที่แล้ว

    What an excellnt film. I've never really understood the relation ship between HP and Torque. (where does the 5252 come from? ( I don't doubt it, I just wondered where it comes from.)

  • @Greataviator1
    @Greataviator1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    HP is the work and TQ is the force.

  • @brocluno01
    @brocluno01 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So looking for data. The first road Cat to go a million miles was on Delo400, and both Cat and Chevron have the data, but they don't give us their numbers.
    Anyone know if the motor was running under load at 2,000 average or 1,300 average for the service life ??

  • @theladygaga2222
    @theladygaga2222 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you have time I could really use your help thank you

  • @trace6402
    @trace6402 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Whew! I need a drink now.😄

  • @elijahrobinson2362
    @elijahrobinson2362 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The first example of torquing a bolt ignores that work was done TO produce the torque. Energy was put INTO the lever and then the bolt.
    HP is (according to some engineers/physicists I’ve heard) a mathematical function OF torque.
    Good vid, nice destruction (glad they are back).
    I’d love to see a discussion of what each (HP and torque) does, as it applies to driving a heavy truck.
    When is higher HP desirable? Under which conditions?
    When is higher torque more desirable/why?
    Which is needed to accelerate, which to maintain speed on a grade? That sort of talk.

    • @fastinradfordable
      @fastinradfordable 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hp and torque aren’t two different things.
      Just different terms, to describe a single force.

    • @elijahrobinson2362
      @elijahrobinson2362 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fastinradfordable, not according to engineers.
      “Torque is simply a force acting on something from a distance (i.e. a piston pushing down on a crankshaft, using that leverage to rotate it), while horsepower is torque multiplied by RPM, or a measurement of how quickly an engine can accomplish a certain amount of work.”
      As I said, HP is a FUNCTION of torque.
      th-cam.com/video/u-MH4sf5xkY/w-d-xo.html

  • @dakotajohnson8782
    @dakotajohnson8782 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wish I knew half the stuff he knows about engines I've learned alot just watching his videos

    • @AdeptApe
      @AdeptApe  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey thank you.

    • @dakotajohnson8782
      @dakotajohnson8782 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AdeptApe your welcome bud you seem like a pretty cool Guy I like your videos and thank you for commenting back

  • @stargasm1000
    @stargasm1000 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've always understood that the besh fuel economy came from running the engine at the speed of its lowest break specific fuel consumption point which is, as I understand it, the same speed as the peak torque.

  • @truckomize9326
    @truckomize9326 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had someone told me if constantly drive my truck at 16k 17k 18k rpm I'll shorten the life of motor..is this a correct theory?

  • @ttrs7907
    @ttrs7907 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you do a video on max piston speeds and maybe some formulas as well

  • @TheREALLibertyOrDeath
    @TheREALLibertyOrDeath 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have a c15 in a lobster boat which idles much of its life. How many hour intervals should I be changing oil? Not in my manual but I’m guessing 2-300? I have the 13 gallon oil pan and running regular rotella 15w40

    • @sablefisher
      @sablefisher 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have a cat 3208 TA in my lobster boat which also does a tremendous amount of idling.The manual for that engine specifies 200 hours and I also run 15w-40

  • @michaeldunagan8268
    @michaeldunagan8268 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cummins recommends 1450 RPM for efficiency where the truckn
    will spend most of its time: 65 or 70 MPH; 1500 for performance on the N14 ans ISX15.
    Personally, my 2000 Cummins N14 engine likes to spin to breathe as evidenced by the instant fuel meter. It will do 1,300 bobtail or empty w/o head wind but 1,500 is much better sounding and better instant fuel mileage when haing heavy. 1,500-1,600 uses the turbo less than 1,300.
    Lugs and bog when heavy at low RPM, but chops them hills down with the edge of its hand at moderately high RPM. Mounteagle I slay at 1,800 RPM.
    EATON 13-Speed allows the fine tuning in cities or other slower roads. It is a deal- breaker for me to own a truck-tractor that comes with less than 13 speeds or an automatic.
    Exceptions.: 22' dumps/short city day cabs wiring in the city or vocational.

  • @Porty1119
    @Porty1119 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    How does this work with a hydrostatic transmission? Is there an optimal RPM or should it just be run flat-out for maximum flow?

    • @daltonbrink9924
      @daltonbrink9924 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      For a hydrostatic transmission, you want to run it full throttle.

    • @Porty1119
      @Porty1119 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@daltonbrink9924 That's what I figured and what I have been doing, just wanted to make sure there wasn't a better way to do it.

    • @adamfpv8294
      @adamfpv8294 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Headframe Hunters do you have a tractor with a Cat in it?

    • @Porty1119
      @Porty1119 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@adamfpv8294 I have two EIMCO 911 underground mine loaders with air-cooled Deutz diesels.

  • @HarryC786
    @HarryC786 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always on the Top. Love your videos. Very informative. Can you help me to find out vibration coming from front. I did all my mechanics told me. New kingpin, bushings, shocks, damper valve, Clutch, couldn't able to find the vibration. Changed couple mechanics. Where is your shop.
    I have this problem on c15 in my peterbilt 379x. I did overhaul in 2 year ago from cat. I did dyno too from cat. Still same problem. Please help me. Thanks

    • @TexasBroskiActual
      @TexasBroskiActual 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Could be bent or cracked frame, bent rim, unbalanced tires. I personally needed 10 new tires and a 3 axle alignment to solve my vibration.

    • @TexasBroskiActual
      @TexasBroskiActual 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Could also be engine mounts.

  • @MarcoAAOrtiz
    @MarcoAAOrtiz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Power is Force (Torque) versus Displacement (RPM). Without displacement, may have static torque but no power is consumed or produced.

  • @lesliegibbons6917
    @lesliegibbons6917 ปีที่แล้ว

    You turn your radio off and listen to your motor. It will talk to you. When you go into a hill as it starts pulling you dont stuff your foot in it. You slowly back out of it and listen when you find the sweet spot you will hear it and it will pull a hole in the wind. Try it it works.

  • @37903abc
    @37903abc ปีที่แล้ว

    13 speed c15 acert old werner tuck 03 ...67/70 mph at 14 to 1500
    Loaded 75000+ truck runs great .
    4.5 to 5 mpg.

  • @B1ackwell17
    @B1ackwell17 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My Cummins 5.9 on the interstate I run it around 2500rpms which is around 76-78mph…. But over extended drive times. Say 4-5 straight is that too much? Only do it with no load but, redline is at 3200rpms…. Fuel mileage suffers but runs nice… wish it had a 7th gear.

  • @user-ix7lp3lq5t
    @user-ix7lp3lq5t 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have Renault Megane 2 Year 2008..with engine 1.9 DCI 131 HP.... maximum torque 300nm at 2000rpm ...and maximum HP in 4000rpm....it is fine to run with 2500rpm ?
    2500rpm = 140kmh

  • @daciefusjones8128
    @daciefusjones8128 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    for class 8 trucks it's all about the torque.

  • @BellAir777
    @BellAir777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is ams oil safe for cat engine ?

  • @darrenrich3492
    @darrenrich3492 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    But at the end if the day- it all depends on what truck It is in/ gears/ and tires- Yiu can have the same truck with a couple changes Amd have 2 very different rpm that max mpg is achieved.. also WhT come into play big time with a lower rev engine..