Got to hangout with theses guys and Chad for two weeks as I helped with the band as they did this tour stage and sound dress rehearsal somewhere deep on the far westside of Chicago. Then they packed up the gear and went to Wrigley Field to open the tour. What a blast!!
No wonder Fall Out Boy have that incredible dynamic sound live. It's all analogue processing! Does he change parameters on all those devices manually? Does he print a list of which settings for which songs etc?
I run this in a very old-school kind of fashion… Any changes that need to be made are done manually by me… I’m lucky that it’s mostly just small tweaks nothing too dramatic, and yes, I used to have a list of all the changes but after this many years, I have them ingrained in my mind probably until the day I die lol
The fact that he is using a majority of outboard gear to do most of the processing is insane! He is more or less just using the desk for faders & some basic EQ.
Yes there are a couple channels that have some dynamics on them but maybe five or six total… You are correct almost everything is done on the analog outboard side except for eq
@@KLRCAT agree to a point, because that board probably replicates 90-95% of the outboard functions and sonic character he's actually pushing thru the speakers - but he's clearly got money/budget to work with and if he really WANTS that to capture that last 5-10% with elegant outboard gear to get the sound EXACTLY the way he/they want it, more power to them all I suppose - odds are most of the audience wouldn't care or notice unless you could A/B the entire situation - maybe he DOES have most of that outboard processing setup in the board as a backup for hardware failures so he gets the sound he wants with operational redundancy ??? JM2C
I just did their show when they were in my town as a local. They sounded amazing tbh! Can't wait to watch this when I get some time, and I'm a subscriber now :)
Dig your videos! Its great as a musician to have an edge. Knowing the next steps helps tremendously even if you don't fully understand it. These are fabulous videos! Dig all the detail backstage! Cheers!
Unsure but it would be wild if that was the sound guy to a conference I went to around the same time or who's production academy I came across. I know one of the groups played but unsure if both it was so many years ago.
hahahha thats funny! when he said at 23:40 what two microhpones i said to myself, errr an SM57 and i cant think of anything else xD and you said the same thing
Uses $100k console so he can run another $100k worth analog gear. I really dont understand what the Digico is needed for in a case like this. Seems he could easily accomplish the same quality on something else considering hes not using really ANYTHING onboard the Digico. The Digico is basically only mixing signals, not processing.....
Could maybe do it with a couple other pieces but the routing of a bunch of stuff between FOH and Mons would be hard at best on other desks, and I am using most of the pre-amps, I only have 2 external pre's
@@soundman00 fair enough Chad. I suppose i shouldnt assume you wouldnt read comments. Lol i am curious though, is the monitor console not just getting a digital split? Or are you sending signals to that desk after your outboard processing?
@@LaminarSoundit’s mostly the talk back routing. We have something like 16 or 18 talkbacks going all over the place it’s honestly about the most complex part of our set up.
Another thing to think about is the reliability and support available from Digico worldwide. They have that nailed down. Not to mention - any territory you tour in will have a Digico should something ever go down. The routing is amazing though.
I mean at the end of the day, the answer for less musicians is we want more money in our pockets. Nothing wrong with that, but that’s most definitely the real answer. No reason you cant sub contract local string and horn players to give them a new big opportunity.
Sub contracting local strings and horns would be a total nightmare Way to many things that can go wrong and when it does it’s gonna the band who is leaving their reputation in the hands of people they don’t even know and have no way of keeping them accountable The money is the easy part of the equation, it has nothing to do with greed
Respectfully that attitude is why you're here in the comments and he's working for Fall Out Boy. You aren't the authority on if bands play to tracks or not.
have to admit I didn’t realize how much technical stuff goes into these shows so this is really cool to see!
Would love a video like this for Jinjer. They sound AMAZING live!
Got to hangout with theses guys and Chad for two weeks as I helped with the band as they did this tour stage and sound dress rehearsal somewhere deep on the far westside of Chicago. Then they packed up the gear and went to Wrigley Field to open the tour. What a blast!!
Outstanding, Chad!!!
Chad is the BEST!!!
I did enjoy the tour when they came here in the Philippines recently
No wonder Fall Out Boy have that incredible dynamic sound live. It's all analogue processing! Does he change parameters on all those devices manually? Does he print a list of which settings for which songs etc?
I run this in a very old-school kind of fashion… Any changes that need to be made are done manually by me… I’m lucky that it’s mostly just small tweaks nothing too dramatic, and yes, I used to have a list of all the changes but after this many years, I have them ingrained in my mind probably until the day I die lol
The fact that he is using a majority of outboard gear to do most of the processing is insane! He is more or less just using the desk for faders & some basic EQ.
Yes there are a couple channels that have some dynamics on them but maybe five or six total… You are correct almost everything is done on the analog outboard side except for eq
@@soundman00 I mean, it's like buying an iPad pro to play flappy bird then using your Nokia 3310 to do everything else.
@@KLRCAT agree to a point, because that board probably replicates 90-95% of the outboard functions and sonic character he's actually pushing thru the speakers - but he's clearly got money/budget to work with and if he really WANTS that to capture that last 5-10% with elegant outboard gear to get the sound EXACTLY the way he/they want it, more power to them all I suppose - odds are most of the audience wouldn't care or notice unless you could A/B the entire situation - maybe he DOES have most of that outboard processing setup in the board as a backup for hardware failures so he gets the sound he wants with operational redundancy ??? JM2C
I just did their show when they were in my town as a local. They sounded amazing tbh! Can't wait to watch this when I get some time, and I'm a subscriber now :)
Great Vid!
Now Big Kev with greenday
You’re awesome Chad!!!
This guy rocks.
Get Pooch next !! Cheers mate!
that would be dope. hes a great dude!
I remember the Nok shows. haha I was running lights right next to you on some of them.
Dig your videos! Its great as a musician to have an edge. Knowing the next steps helps tremendously even if you don't fully understand it. These are fabulous videos! Dig all the detail backstage! Cheers!
That view though.
Unsure but it would be wild if that was the sound guy to a conference I went to around the same time or who's production academy I came across. I know one of the groups played but unsure if both it was so many years ago.
hahahha thats funny! when he said at 23:40 what two microhpones i said to myself, errr an SM57 and i cant think of anything else xD and you said the same thing
Where did you get your a&h jacket, can’t find them anywhere
Will the audience be sitting during the show?! Nice Vid
Sm 57 amen.
“next leg of tour” ??? 👁️👄👁️
Uses $100k console so he can run another $100k worth analog gear. I really dont understand what the Digico is needed for in a case like this. Seems he could easily accomplish the same quality on something else considering hes not using really ANYTHING onboard the Digico. The Digico is basically only mixing signals, not processing.....
Could maybe do it with a couple other pieces but the routing of a bunch of stuff between FOH and Mons would be hard at best on other desks, and I am using most of the pre-amps, I only have 2 external pre's
@@soundman00 fair enough Chad. I suppose i shouldnt assume you wouldnt read comments. Lol i am curious though, is the monitor console not just getting a digital split? Or are you sending signals to that desk after your outboard processing?
@@LaminarSoundit’s mostly the talk back routing. We have something like 16 or 18 talkbacks going all over the place it’s honestly about the most complex part of our set up.
Another thing to think about is the reliability and support available from Digico worldwide. They have that nailed down. Not to mention - any territory you tour in will have a Digico should something ever go down.
The routing is amazing though.
Well most people are using digico as a very versatile routing desk rather than for its processing
I am new to this, is it normal to have like 200 000 euro consoles in this league? haha
yes fairly
I mean at the end of the day, the answer for less musicians is we want more money in our pockets. Nothing wrong with that, but that’s most definitely the real answer. No reason you cant sub contract local string and horn players to give them a new big opportunity.
Sub contracting local strings and horns would be a total nightmare
Way to many things that can go wrong and when it does it’s gonna the band who is leaving their reputation in the hands of people they don’t even know and have no way of keeping them accountable
The money is the easy part of the equation, it has nothing to do with greed
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Who the hack is Fall Out Boy?
Just some band from Chicago, hoping that if they practice hard and put their time in, they can make a career for themselves
11:02 that's just pure BS they could do all of those things with 1 keyboard player.
FOH for daughtry
Chairs at a concert... What granny band is this.
If you can't replicate a track live, don't play it. You're not a live band
Respectfully that attitude is why you're here in the comments and he's working for Fall Out Boy. You aren't the authority on if bands play to tracks or not.
HAHAHAHAH. SPOKEN FROM AN ARM CHAIR AUDIO IDIOT…..RECEIVED AS SUCH
The band is playing live. Augmenting the sound with tracks doesn't change that