I really do resonate with this, i can be discouraging to go through the effort of learning music theory, adding harmonies, after effects, EQing, and extra layers when people are getting away with making hits with loops they slammed together in 2 minutes. But then i learned that when you go the extra mile with making everything, your creativity is truly the limit on what you can make. While people who mainly use samples can really only work with what they have, 9/10 times they lack the experience create a unique experience, so i think its okay :) let people make music how they want as long as your not just stealing from other artists when sampling via your own unique take.
you know using samples is not just slapping the loop,slap some drums and 808 and call it a day,sometimes there are microscopic chops,sometimes they even take single notes from the sample and turn them into instruments,so yeah,sampling is not lazy if you use it correctly
@@tcfa Yea man i agree with this, I don't want to generalize and say "everyone using samples are doing it the lazy way". There are a lot really cool ways people use samples and I would never bash that. Im specifically talking about the group of people who don't put any creative effort into it
How about this: Use loops and samples AFTER you learn how to properly make melodies yourself. Knowing what makes a melody good, emotional, unique, ect, will translate over into your ability to sample creatively, too. Flip your samples, give them variations, but DON'T just drag and drop a looperman or splice loop and call it a day. I see so many new producers falling for this trap all the time. While you're still learning the basics, it will only hold back your progress and guess what? Music is so complex that after one or two years, you are probably still learning the basics. Wanna make that five? Then go ahead, continue using samples on every beat, and keep complain because Drake still hasn't hit you up, because NoBoDy cAn ReCoGnIzE YoUr PoTeNtIaL aNd uNiqUe ArTiStIc eXpReSsIon.
I'll be totally honest. I think most of the people that complain about samples and loops don't get the point of what music and art can be. When you take a look to another forms of art, you'll notice that the "Remix" of content it's a whole different thing, sampling it's not bad or lazy, it's a different type of music and it needs a different approach, technique, mindset, etc. It's like trying to play the bass exactly like the piano and say that the bass it's lazy and bad just because it's not The same. GOOD sampling it's a whole different instrument. Also, if you're a good producer, sampling becomes more of an extra instrument rather of a copy paste (that's what most of the people think about sampling). Just look some of the best producers OAT like J Dilla, Madlib, The Alchemist, Daft Punk, etc. Don't miscredit a music resource only because you think it takes less effort of some of the things you know (because, it doesn't). P.S: obviusly i'm not trying to defend the lazy and boring sampling, but with the correct examples (like anything in music or art, in general) You can't find the truly beatiful art of sampling.
@KirúsProd thanks for the comment, but it seems you’ve completely missed the point. I’m not talking about sampling used by artists like Kanye and Pharrell, of course that takes skill. I’m talking about examples like Fred Again literally copy and pasting a synth loop and a drum loop from splice into Ableton, without making a single change to either of the loops, and then acting like he made the track entirely from scratch on an analog synth and then marketing the song on tiktok by pretending he made it from scratch and that it’s deep and emotional. You say at the end that you’re not trying to defend the lazy and boring samples, but that’s what the whole video is about. I’m not talking about sample chops like Wet Dreams by J Cole for example
Never use samples and loops. I am enjoying makes some simple melody, chord progression with lot of arp. For drums, I use one-shot and as long as I enjoy making it. I am still doing the same.
Completely missed the point here. The point I’m making is that they need to also work with the chord progressions and melody, like any other instrument would.
@ Nono i get that the voices you used are just another instrument but saying that as a general statement ain’t right. the word “just” just doesn’t work there
@@Fadzom it absolutely does work there. I’m saying don’t over complicated things with your vocal, JUST treat it like any other instrument and follow the same rules as you would with a piano or synth
@@ListenUpJamesaight i still disagree about the phrasing but if you didn’t mean it that way then you didn’t. It still really sounds like you’re saying vocals are “just” another instrument that play different melodies and add feelings. Fyi i’m not hating, i’m subscribed and have been, i just disagreed :p
@@ListenUpJames I think that the COMPLETELY is just a really strong word, cause it's just ignoring the layering and sound selection of the process. I get the point of the boringness of just ctrl+c and ctrl+v, but you're just generalizing.
@KirúsProd it’s not just layering and sound selection, it’s also creating the entire chord progression and melody. There is literally not a single thing you need to do apart from ctrl c and ctrl v an entire loop from splice
what are your thoughts on using samples and loops?
Samples are lazy when you make *everything* out of them. (Oh wait, that's just HipHop)
samples are helpful to connect tracks together or from-tail-to-the-start. Its a part for engine of inspiration to cook something
I really do resonate with this, i can be discouraging to go through the effort of learning music theory, adding harmonies, after effects, EQing, and extra layers when people are getting away with making hits with loops they slammed together in 2 minutes. But then i learned that when you go the extra mile with making everything, your creativity is truly the limit on what you can make. While people who mainly use samples can really only work with what they have, 9/10 times they lack the experience create a unique experience, so i think its okay :) let people make music how they want as long as your not just stealing from other artists when sampling via your own unique take.
you know using samples is not just slapping the loop,slap some drums and 808 and call it a day,sometimes there are microscopic chops,sometimes they even take single notes from the sample and turn them into instruments,so yeah,sampling is not lazy if you use it correctly
@@tcfa Yea man i agree with this, I don't want to generalize and say "everyone using samples are doing it the lazy way". There are a lot really cool ways people use samples and I would never bash that. Im specifically talking about the group of people who don't put any creative effort into it
@@spookieofficial all cool man,i agree,some people just slap a loop found on samplefocus or looperman
How about this:
Use loops and samples AFTER you learn how to properly make melodies yourself.
Knowing what makes a melody good, emotional, unique, ect, will translate over into your ability to sample creatively, too.
Flip your samples, give them variations, but DON'T just drag and drop a looperman or splice loop and call it a day.
I see so many new producers falling for this trap all the time.
While you're still learning the basics, it will only hold back your progress and guess what?
Music is so complex that after one or two years, you are probably still learning the basics.
Wanna make that five?
Then go ahead, continue using samples on every beat, and keep complain because Drake still hasn't hit you up, because NoBoDy cAn ReCoGnIzE YoUr PoTeNtIaL aNd uNiqUe ArTiStIc eXpReSsIon.
I'll be totally honest.
I think most of the people that complain about samples and loops don't get the point of what music and art can be.
When you take a look to another forms of art, you'll notice that the "Remix" of content it's a whole different thing, sampling it's not bad or lazy, it's a different type of music and it needs a different approach, technique, mindset, etc. It's like trying to play the bass exactly like the piano and say that the bass it's lazy and bad just because it's not The same. GOOD sampling it's a whole different instrument. Also, if you're a good producer, sampling becomes more of an extra instrument rather of a copy paste (that's what most of the people think about sampling). Just look some of the best producers OAT like J Dilla, Madlib, The Alchemist, Daft Punk, etc. Don't miscredit a music resource only because you think it takes less effort of some of the things you know (because, it doesn't).
P.S: obviusly i'm not trying to defend the lazy and boring sampling, but with the correct examples (like anything in music or art, in general) You can't find the truly beatiful art of sampling.
@KirúsProd thanks for the comment, but it seems you’ve completely missed the point. I’m not talking about sampling used by artists like Kanye and Pharrell, of course that takes skill. I’m talking about examples like Fred Again literally copy and pasting a synth loop and a drum loop from splice into Ableton, without making a single change to either of the loops, and then acting like he made the track entirely from scratch on an analog synth and then marketing the song on tiktok by pretending he made it from scratch and that it’s deep and emotional.
You say at the end that you’re not trying to defend the lazy and boring samples, but that’s what the whole video is about. I’m not talking about sample chops like Wet Dreams by J Cole for example
@ListenUpJames Well, then no prob AAJAJAJAJA
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Never use samples and loops. I am enjoying makes some simple melody, chord progression with lot of arp. For drums, I use one-shot and as long as I enjoy making it. I am still doing the same.
espresso was a drum loop and guitar loop
Yep! I had that in the original edit but removed it since I had too many tracks to choose from 🤣
Bro, what type of drum sound is this? In wich drum kit? please help, i need snare and kick and...like this
It’s just old school sounds with distortion presets on them using thermal
Listen to people like brakence and EDEN and you realize vocals ain’t just another instrument
Completely missed the point here. The point I’m making is that they need to also work with the chord progressions and melody, like any other instrument would.
@ Nono i get that the voices you used are just another instrument but saying that as a general statement ain’t right. the word “just” just doesn’t work there
@@Fadzom it absolutely does work there. I’m saying don’t over complicated things with your vocal, JUST treat it like any other instrument and follow the same rules as you would with a piano or synth
@@ListenUpJamesi’m watching the video again okay 😭
@@ListenUpJamesaight i still disagree about the phrasing but if you didn’t mean it that way then you didn’t.
It still really sounds like you’re saying vocals are “just” another instrument that play different melodies and add feelings.
Fyi i’m not hating, i’m subscribed and have been, i just disagreed :p
i didnt get the problem
That producers are just using loops now and music is becoming completely unoriginal
@@ListenUpJames I think that the COMPLETELY is just a really strong word, cause it's just ignoring the layering and sound selection of the process.
I get the point of the boringness of just ctrl+c and ctrl+v, but you're just generalizing.
@KirúsProd it’s not just layering and sound selection, it’s also creating the entire chord progression and melody. There is literally not a single thing you need to do apart from ctrl c and ctrl v an entire loop from splice
@@ListenUpJames i get your point, but I think we both agree but we're not talking about the same thing