As others have commented, New Jack Swing has been a staple of Kpop for many years. Teddy Riley himself came to Korea in 2010 to help create the Kpop group RaNia, which after many rebrandings and member changes evolved into Black Swan. One of RaNia’s original members, Yoo Jooyi, has become an important songwriter going by the name Cosmic Girl and you can hear the new jack swing influence in her work.
The main reason I love kpop is because I love these genres. I have been blasting Seoul Sonyo Sound since it came out, I was really suprised that you put in in the video.
@@DilieMC Haha, Speed Love is one of my favorite TripleS songs actually. I love finding people that listen to the group.🫶🏾☺️Their discography is amazing.
EXO's Tempo was composed by THE Teddy Riley himself. Sherlock by SHINee is very 90s new jack swing...Growl by EXO the list goes on. It's always been prevalent in Kpop.
I feel like I’m going to have to slightly disagree with you on the comment that it was irrelevant up until 2023. New jack swing has been a key genre in K-Pop since it’s conception and can be heard in every generation up until now. I would not say that it has ever been irrelevant, maybe in the past few years 2020-2022 it has been less popular, but it’s always been there. I can list countless numbers of group that have done New Jack Swing at some stage over the years: SES, BoA, Wonder Girls, Girls Generation, GFRIEND, EXID, SHINee, EXO, Loona, Red Velvet, NCT Dream, it’s a very tried and true formula. NewJeans and triples are just starting off the newer generation’s iteration I think.
yup it's always been there but I wish american pop would bring it back because it's such a good genre! The last huge NJS song was Finesse by Bruno Mars.
newjeans always cooks so hard with their beats. they arguably singlehandedly brought dnb into kpop, and for like a year every group was chasing the 2000s aesthetic.
I honestly think they're a breath of fresh air in the world of kpop. Their simple, inspired sound will outlast the very niche, maximalist production of most groups. But that's just me speaking on my desires out of a genre than actually understanding the market.
@@brownwallet942 i love cupid but this is completely incorrect. Cupid has a very basic ii-V-I-vi chord progression. the production is typical bubblegum pop with soft pads and guitars, a simple drum beat and bassline. while i think that the melody is beautiful I dont think there is any metric by which cupid is better than newjeans songs. newjeans have shown us a refreshing sound in kpop with every release, with more interesting production and composition. in addition the lyricism and music video direction provides a consistent narrative for their releases that allows the listener to be invested in a unique newjeans world, for instance the almost lynchian world of the OMG/ditto era.
@@mcbill7352 there is no metric because music is subjective. I am speaking from my perspective as an IEM enthusiast. I love listening to all genres, and I don't pretty much care about videography and all things beside the songs themselves. So yeah, my sister is a Kpop fan and my gay friend kept sending me New Jeans videos when they were released. Sure, their hit songs got some vibe but none were as likeable as Cupid melody/lyric wise like its alright hearing them in some boutique while window shopping but I wouldn't take my time and find a song to play in spotify. But Cupid, that one played countless times in my playlist when it first came out
It already is a song. It's pretty much say you will be there by spice girls lolololol Sing along to it I'm giving you everything, all that joy can bring yes I swear (say you will be there) And all that I ask of you is a promise you will be there (say you will be there) It fits perfectly lol
someone said say you'll be there which is absolutely right but also i think you should try all right by f(x) then wonder girls' rewind, just a feeling by S.E.S and red velvet's about love
Their music is really good i recommend complexity, seoul sonyo sound,24,chiyu,heart raider, generation, rising,new look,beam, colorful,white soul sneakers, girls' capitalism, invincible,girls never die, midnight flower etc.
Old enough to remember New Jack Swing - it's weird but cool to see it reappear as an obscure genre that people thousands of miles away got into all of a sudden. Back when it came out, FM synthesizers were dominant so the bass sound would be that tight, sharp, percussive Yamaha DX-7 sound, and drums would be a Roland 909 or samplers, which were brand new at the time. It's interesting that you can take the groove and sub in modern synths, and it sounds different. New Jeans (their producers) has absolutely crushed it, but I honestly didn't "detect" Bobby Brown vibes until they announced that this was the inspiration. Anyway, good stuff.
@@notreally-sf3df Here comes one of those kids who wasn't even born at the time, but is trying to correct someone who was there with what he read on wikipedia or because he interned somewhere last summer. Go make your own video, son! Opinions are like rear ends; everybody's got one.
@@UncleSubBass What the hell did you just wrote? I literally said i've worked with Teddy Riley... Can you read? Maybe I assumed a bit much thinking you'd know who that was, but that can't be fucking true, no? Have you talked to Teddy about it? The video is fine, your comment is just incorrect according to you know, THE guy.
great video and really nice beat at the end! but i'd disagree when u said it was irrelevant until recently. it's a pretty standard genre for the industry, it's just the way that NewJeans packaged it with their own, 'lowkey' style, that became trendy - it's not that no one was doing new-jack swing, but everyone is doing it the NewJeans way now. I'd also would like to add how during all of the 2010's, it was a VERY common genre for girlgroups to explore as well, especially the "cuter" ones, the whole "cristian horse girl" shabang. They'd fuse it with some synthpop to create a sweeter sound - Lovelyz is the very best exemple of that, it was their whole thing, but every older gg has at least one song like it - it's almost a sub-genre within itself, pretty interesting stuff.
New Edition's If it Isn't Love was the foundation song for kpop. Not just the beats, melody and harmony. But also the choreography and dance performance. Just check out the video. It looks and sounds like a modern kpop song. In fact, katseye or vcha should cover it (with their own take). It will be a smash hit
New Edition was the foundation of modern "pop groups", you can trace their lineage through to k-pop. For example, Maurice Starr was the manager for both New Edition and New Kids on the Block, and from New Kids on the Block onwards you had an explosion of boy bands and girl bands in the 90s, and k-pop is just the latest evolution. New Edition set the template and it evolved from there.
@@systemsafadown Honestly a lot of kpop stans tend to forget that lmao. Especially during the time some group was caught plagiarizing Tinashe and a lot of their stans and non-stans were quick to defend them
man im glad you exist, usually when people break stuff down and show their own production the stuff they be showing sounds ass, but your stuff definitely real nice, props for that
All respect, Josh ~ But I've had this sort of discussion with industry peers here in Seoul since the late 1990s, and the consensus is that new jack swing dominated the industry as a mainstream dance genre long before then: After Lee Hyun-Do left SM following the Hyun Jin-Young meth scandal (1993), he and late Kim Sung-Jae as Deux immediately debuted and pretty much perfected new jack swing (at least in the pre-HOT/SES SM Entertainment era) in the industry, albeit first introduced by Hyun Jin-Young and Wawa c.1990/1991 and later of course with Seo Taiji in 1992. Either way, new jack swing was anything but unfamiliar prior to SES' debut, being the genre that especially ruled the K-pop dance track airwaves from 1993 on with 뮤, ZAM, NOISE, and even some of Cool and 룰라's catalog, alongside loads of 김창환-produced Swedish house/trance all the way up through the early 2nd gen. Just consider how Deux' *나를 돌아봐* is still considered to be the quintessential new jack swing K-pop hit tune of the era. _And it was released in 1993_ .
I'm not a huge k-popper but have followed SHINee for a very long time, and I'm glad to hear more people are liking new-jack swing songs because their 2016 RETRO inspired album titled, '1 of 1' has the title track with the same name, would always make me groove and i didn't know the reason why back then, now I know. It made me learn about it, listen to the western artists that pioneered this genre. And thanks to this video I know what other kpop songs to listen for similar vibes! 🥰 Just make me appreciate that, '1 of 1' album was so AHEAD OF TIME for general public (Shawols consider it one of their top 3 album tho), because in that same album, SHINee also has a UK garage infused song called 'SHIFT' similar to Riize's 2024 'Impossible', IN 2016 PEOPLE!
I finally got into K-pop as well and have been stuck! I've been venturing over into J-pop and some Thai pop as well. The production quality is amazing!
I remember Shinee doing New Jack Swing, for 'One of One' comeback. The producers on K-pop music songs have often looked to Black-American music trends of past and present as a well of inspiration. They did their homework and the appreciation is there. Is it really dead? Bruno Mars revived it for his 24K Magic album, but I guess it's been years since then. Garage is still quite popular in the UK, and was created & popularised by predominantly Black British DJs - It's insane, wherever in the black diaspora you go, just how many music genres across the world were invented by the black people in those countries. It boggles the mind! As a Brit, I always wanted an artist to have a global garage smash hit song, and high-key expected it to be a British artist. If somebody told me a Kpop idol would end up having the biggest global Garage hit ever, I never would've believed it. I love that Jungkook used Garage and brought the sound to the whole world all over again!
How come you didn't mention a single time that New Jack was a black music genre with proeminent black artists and just saying "it's a genre originating in the 80s"? Like from who wand where ? Is it that hard ? (no a simple cue of Bobby Brown doesn't cut it).
I thought the exact same thing! Like, it's kind of an important background and I wanted to know more about the origins, so I might as well just search for myself 😅
SHINee as always ahead of time, their 2016 '1 of 1' was New Jack Swing retro concept album that also contained a few UK Garage tracks and a bunch of other experimental goodness.
wow, I was so tired of those videos were the first 2/3 of the video were an entire documentary before getting to the main part in the last 1/3, so I expected to click of that video as soon that was the case. But you found such a nice balance for when to continue the history the music theory and the practice side of things. I really liked how we could first see the practice of the swing and groove before you told us why they even used new jack swing, at that point we all already new that the genre had groove and then just saying it dances nice came so naturally. Really nice video, love the format and the quality too. Liked and subscribed. Wasn't even into K-pop one bit, loved the video anyway. I found to appreciate K-pop more after this video.
Wow, you took me from knowing nothing to knowing a little bit [not your fault, there's so much to learn her]. I'm sure I'll learn a lot more by sticking around here with you, thank you :)
imo, another reason for why new jack swing (and other styles like house and disco) are making it’s way into kpop is because recently kpop has been connecting with street dance more closely and of course the music that accompanies those styles gets popularised and released too. east asia still has a decent new jack swing dance community i absolutely love this sound and i’m happy to see it come back
Wow! Came here to see what's new in K-Pop. I was glad to see New Jack Swing influence (love it) and OMG how I was surprised to reach the part when you talk about UK Garage! As a UKG DJ and producer, I had to LIKE and SUBSCRIBE! Good content! Thank you!
Now that i discovered TripleS here, i find that they sound so similiar to New Jeans and im so happy to have found them! Almost like they have same producers, or the producers use sometimes very similiar things they add to the song. As you said NJ is more simplistic and i think has a stronger essence and charisma,listening to their music feels more whole. TripleS mixes more stuff into their music so it can appear a little bit chaotic, more diverse, but i still like almost all their songs. Idk i know nothing about music, but i like to learn here haha
Thanks, nice to watch, I think it's very relevant. Central European here, used to play with SoulFunk bands in the 90ies. I think some factors in the West are helpful, like the comeback of the Sugababes, they are better than ever, and their style has an unforgettable footprint. This creates attention for some other retro styles, if the producer can add a modern element also. Prince has left over lots of exciting musical ideas, ready to rediscover. I found "Cream" very remarkable, it did age well. Have fun and produce some big hits!
i really loooooved that you broke down each element of jack new swing and how it varies from traditional hip hop and r&b. this was very helpful to me as a music aficcionado who doesn't have formal education, but is highly interested on production techniques, genres et al. i'm deffo subscribing and exploring more of your chanel since it's hard to find deep and well produced material about k-pop MUSIC... algorythm has always given me reaction vids. lol i have just one little note: new jack swing may have fizzled out for a couple of decades in the western market, but it's been very present in japanese idol industry throughout the 2000s - from its electronica evolution in city pop to downright nostalgia repetition. maybe you know about them, but i must mention tokyo girls' style's (OG formation) discography was heavily based on it. and yes, k-pop's take on it has had a more contemporary flare but j-pop is worth mentioning.
im really living in peak k-pop these couple of year new jack swing is my ult favoruite genre boyz to men, new edition, bobby brown, tlc johnny gill etc
This throwback to the 80ties, early 90ties is so funny for me as a person who lived through this era as a teenager. My vinyl collection has all the new jack swing and UK garage original songs on them. You forgot to mention Janet Jackson. Her songs utilized new jack swing the best.
Just a quick thing: UK garage is also heavily influenced by garage house music, specifically the faster syncopated stuff that arose from New Jersey. Todd Edwards was incredibly influential to UKG music, as well as speed garage (which is sort of a halfway point between house and UKG that mixed a fast, ~130pm four on the floor beat with jungle basslines and samples).
i really liked this video as an explanation for genres, people dont explain genres very well and you did a good job with a simple to the point explanation even if im not interested in music production
Shinee did this with 1 of 1, 8 years ago... Wonder Girls did it with Reboot, 9 years ago. Both albums were based off that entire era of music. New Jack Swing has been a pretty normal genre to hear in various other b-sides from other groups for the past years, I mean, you showed it yourself. The only difference now is that they're making it title tracks, I guess I'm sure pretty much every kpop fan can name a beloved b-side by their own favorite group/soloist that is New Jack Swing. It's been a constant for years
Basically, late 80s and early 90s groovey vibes. I was kid during that time, so when I heard New Jeans for the first time I immediately recognized the era that inspired them.
Young posse is bringin the old hip hop aesthetic like the music, new jeans gives the 90s vibe, this generation its amazing because you can realive the music
Music genres dont die they just go around the way and come back again, when New Jeans came out my daughter asked me to check them out she said they sound new, so i did and told her thats not new, thats what we danced and sang back in the 90's.
gfriend and a few other group were doing new jack swing kpop way back on the 2010s, but they didn't pop off as new jeans was, uzi was a fan of gfriend too
Dead Genre? What? New Jack Swing has ALWAYS been in Kpop, literally EVERY year, always, ever since the dawn of K-Pop. It's literally like the main Genre K-Pop always falls back to. Cmon dude.
I don't think he meant dead in kpop specifically, he showed that kpop has BEEN using it, but dead in general, i can't mention the last time i heard njs
I wouldn't say SES is the first to do New Jack Swing in K-pop. Seo Taiji did it in the early 90s. You also had songs like 이승철 - 방황 which were Bobby Brown inspired New Jack Swing in 1993.
Josh, as a fellow musician (prob around same age too lol), I also fell in love with NWJNS's retro pop style every since they came out! And after watching your other videos, I can't help but recommend Twice's discography since it looks like you're into the same type of music as me ha. To me they were the first kpop group I heard with true retro throwbacks to 70s-90s r&b, pop, and soul (of course after their initial bubble pop era). I'd recommend checking out Baby Blue Love, Moonlight, and Believer if you like that style.
Haven't heard Supernatural before, but immediately just a few seconds of the song blasted me back into the 80s. The first song to come to mind is Straight Up by Paula Abdul.
I feel like there should have been more mention of the fact that Teddy Riley himself is a huge producer in kpop and has been for years. Of course a genre that he was instrumental in creating would make its way there with him
actually, before S.E.S there was Seo Tai ji, but you got it, New Jack Swing is the zygote cell to KPOP, the fundamental genre to KPOP exists, also love the tripleS mention they have amazing new jack swing-inspired beats
SeoTaji and the Boyz didn't do New Jack Swing. They were more commerical Pop/ Hip Hop and Metal/HipHop ala Beastie Boyz. DEUX and it's member Lee Hyun Do is credited as the father of New Jack Swing in Korea. Back in the early 90's he was the main rival of Seo Taiji. He went on to be a well know producer who still makes songs in the New Jack genre. He also inspired Yoo Gun Hyung of Untitle. It is well know that he modelled himself after lee hyun do and new jack swing. He also went on to be a famous producer, having also co produced Gang Nam Syle.
Glad Newjackswing is getting some love again, was officially introduced to the genre through GTA San Andreas, big fan of Bobby and Johnny Gill and Aaron Hall.
Nice vid - yeah i did think this would be the use of UKg and NJS. The american version way of saying 'gur-arge' threw me for a second though :D We say gah-ridge.
New Jack Swing isn’t the same if Teddy Riley isn’t the one producing. Just something about him being behind production you know its gonna be gold standard
Oh my gosh!!!! TripleS, wjsn, and exid mentioned!! I knew there was something I particularly liked about their music, and now I have the words to describe it
what is that website you used at 3:15 to scroll through and listen to different genres? is it some sort of wikipedia page? i'd love to find out, but i couldn't use google lens to search for it.
Most of my life, aunties, uncles, moms and dads that grew up in the 90s will tell you New Jack was always being played at parties or in the radio one way or another. If you really want to get the feel of it I recommend you to listen to the "mo'money" and "new jack city" soundtracks. And listen to Bobby Brown, New Edition, Guy, Christopher Williams, AL B Sure, Hi-Five, ABC, BelBivDevoe, Ralph Trasvant, Keith Sweat, Color me Bad, Heavy D and the boyz, Jade, The Boyz, Jodeci, Tony Toni Toné, SWV, Boyz II Men and list goes on and on. LoL yes I know I may have gone overboard but hey when you know you know. 😂
Hey I'll rewrite the intro for you, here we go: "Something unexpected is happening in the k-pop industry. This genre from the 90s is taking over modern k-pop music. But Why? And how? And more importantly, how can you avoid following trends which will probably be stale by the time your actual song gets released given the lengthy turnaround times of the industry, and instead do something that will be more fresh and interesting?"
Hope you guys enjoy, I’ve been wanting to talk about tripleS for a while. Let me know which groups you want to see in future videos.
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More tripleS please! I've been yearning to hear somebody cover their composition and music production
I like DEANs music he has some gems
@frequentiis BRO I JUST DISCOVERED TEDDY RILEY THROUGH YOU AND I AM OBSESSED THX LOL
BlackPink please. Excellent video btw really enjoyed it, subscribed!
Bruno Mars Finesse 6 years ago pretty much made it a come back already.
That’s what I was thinking
Definitely, that jam was hella New Jack.
Exactly
He did a great job with this song, it’s too bad it didn’t catch on to other artists
lmao, disrespectful ass comment comparing bruno mars to the great music of the 90s
As others have commented, New Jack Swing has been a staple of Kpop for many years. Teddy Riley himself came to Korea in 2010 to help create the Kpop group RaNia, which after many rebrandings and member changes evolved into Black Swan. One of RaNia’s original members, Yoo Jooyi, has become an important songwriter going by the name Cosmic Girl and you can hear the new jack swing influence in her work.
Yoooo Cosmic Girl was an idol?!! Love her work, especially with mamamoo
@@pidgeongguk8818 yup, she was Rania's original main vocal.
RANIAAAAAAAA
Love the group, sad the original lineup went the way it did.
@@pidgeongguk8818A couple of years ago she sang with Solar on an episode of the TH-cam show Solarsido.
The main reason I love kpop is because I love these genres. I have been blasting Seoul Sonyo Sound since it came out, I was really suprised that you put in in the video.
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Same, I have been playing Seoul Sonyo Sound since it was released. Overall such a beautiful and well produced song.
@@Burn143 give speed love a shot, it is a really good song too!
@@DilieMC Haha, Speed Love is one of my favorite TripleS songs actually. I love finding people that listen to the group.🫶🏾☺️Their discography is amazing.
if u like seoul sonyo sound, prom night by fromis9 sounds similar to it imo u might like it!
EXO's Tempo was composed by THE Teddy Riley himself. Sherlock by SHINee is very 90s new jack swing...Growl by EXO the list goes on. It's always been prevalent in Kpop.
true! i just think new-gen groups are making huge big push for that sound
YUP! SHINee have many track inspired by New Jack Swing
It was Call Me Baby that was produced by Teddy Riley, not Tempo 😊
Growl isnt New Jack Swing tho
1&1 girl
I feel like I’m going to have to slightly disagree with you on the comment that it was irrelevant up until 2023. New jack swing has been a key genre in K-Pop since it’s conception and can be heard in every generation up until now. I would not say that it has ever been irrelevant, maybe in the past few years 2020-2022 it has been less popular, but it’s always been there.
I can list countless numbers of group that have done New Jack Swing at some stage over the years: SES, BoA, Wonder Girls, Girls Generation, GFRIEND, EXID, SHINee, EXO, Loona, Red Velvet, NCT Dream, it’s a very tried and true formula. NewJeans and triples are just starting off the newer generation’s iteration I think.
Yeah it's nonsense.
True
yup it's always been there but I wish american pop would bring it back because it's such a good genre! The last huge NJS song was Finesse by Bruno Mars.
He already mentioned some of those groups in the video.
Lovelyz Destiny is another example of new jack swing
newjeans always cooks so hard with their beats. they arguably singlehandedly brought dnb into kpop, and for like a year every group was chasing the 2000s aesthetic.
I honestly think they're a breath of fresh air in the world of kpop. Their simple, inspired sound will outlast the very niche, maximalist production of most groups. But that's just me speaking on my desires out of a genre than actually understanding the market.
@@briangarcia8384I think they’re a breath of fresh air in the overall music scene. Not a fan of kpop, but I’m loving what new jeans is doing.
New Jeans? Members with pretty faces, but even Cupid was 100x better than any of their songs
@@brownwallet942 i love cupid but this is completely incorrect. Cupid has a very basic ii-V-I-vi chord progression. the production is typical bubblegum pop with soft pads and guitars, a simple drum beat and bassline. while i think that the melody is beautiful I dont think there is any metric by which cupid is better than newjeans songs. newjeans have shown us a refreshing sound in kpop with every release, with more interesting production and composition. in addition the lyricism and music video direction provides a consistent narrative for their releases that allows the listener to be invested in a unique newjeans world, for instance the almost lynchian world of the OMG/ditto era.
@@mcbill7352 there is no metric because music is subjective. I am speaking from my perspective as an IEM enthusiast. I love listening to all genres, and I don't pretty much care about videography and all things beside the songs themselves. So yeah, my sister is a Kpop fan and my gay friend kept sending me New Jeans videos when they were released. Sure, their hit songs got some vibe but none were as likeable as Cupid melody/lyric wise like its alright hearing them in some boutique while window shopping but I wouldn't take my time and find a song to play in spotify. But Cupid, that one played countless times in my playlist when it first came out
TRIPLES AND NEWJEANS IN A VIDEO???? I LOVE IT HERE
OMG A TRIPLES FAN
@@IsraIsaak YES HI
We love to see it😭💯👏🏾I love the music of both those groups.
TRUEEEEE !!!
ONG BRO YOURE SO VLAID YOURE SO REAL
3:46 BRO YOU COOKED WITH THISS!! OMG I NEED THISSS AS A KPOP SONGG IT'S SO GOODD!
It already is a song. It's pretty much say you will be there by spice girls lolololol
Sing along to it
I'm giving you everything, all that joy can bring yes I swear (say you will be there)
And all that I ask of you is a promise you will be there (say you will be there)
It fits perfectly lol
@@globalastro6422omg thank you so much for letting me know!
someone said say you'll be there which is absolutely right but also i think you should try all right by f(x) then wonder girls' rewind, just a feeling by S.E.S and red velvet's about love
Which is the name of the song? :0
TripleS having 24 members??!! That's insane! That's like a whole goddamn class making a school dance project or stuff like that.
fr, excited to see what they can do with those numbers
I love triples ❤
They make a unit
They make new units and they are really good. Check them out♡
Their music is really good i recommend complexity, seoul sonyo sound,24,chiyu,heart raider, generation, rising,new look,beam, colorful,white soul sneakers, girls' capitalism, invincible,girls never die, midnight flower etc.
tripleS makes quality music THEY need more love
Ikrrr people be sleeping on them
Old enough to remember New Jack Swing - it's weird but cool to see it reappear as an obscure genre that people thousands of miles away got into all of a sudden. Back when it came out, FM synthesizers were dominant so the bass sound would be that tight, sharp, percussive Yamaha DX-7 sound, and drums would be a Roland 909 or samplers, which were brand new at the time. It's interesting that you can take the groove and sub in modern synths, and it sounds different. New Jeans (their producers) has absolutely crushed it, but I honestly didn't "detect" Bobby Brown vibes until they announced that this was the inspiration. Anyway, good stuff.
This timeline is super off. I've done work with Teddy Riley and nothing he ever told me adds up to this.
@@notreally-sf3df Here comes one of those kids who wasn't even born at the time, but is trying to correct someone who was there with what he read on wikipedia or because he interned somewhere last summer. Go make your own video, son! Opinions are like rear ends; everybody's got one.
@@UncleSubBass What the hell did you just wrote? I literally said i've worked with Teddy Riley... Can you read?
Maybe I assumed a bit much thinking you'd know who that was, but that can't be fucking true, no? Have you talked to Teddy about it?
The video is fine, your comment is just incorrect according to you know, THE guy.
@@notreally-sf3dfplease go listen to Ghost Town DJs “My Boo”… it’s literally the original sound to Ditto, the Running Man trend, etc.
great video and really nice beat at the end! but i'd disagree when u said it was irrelevant until recently. it's a pretty standard genre for the industry, it's just the way that NewJeans packaged it with their own, 'lowkey' style, that became trendy - it's not that no one was doing new-jack swing, but everyone is doing it the NewJeans way now.
I'd also would like to add how during all of the 2010's, it was a VERY common genre for girlgroups to explore as well, especially the "cuter" ones, the whole "cristian horse girl" shabang. They'd fuse it with some synthpop to create a sweeter sound - Lovelyz is the very best exemple of that, it was their whole thing, but every older gg has at least one song like it - it's almost a sub-genre within itself, pretty interesting stuff.
New Edition's If it Isn't Love was the foundation song for kpop. Not just the beats, melody and harmony. But also the choreography and dance performance. Just check out the video. It looks and sounds like a modern kpop song. In fact, katseye or vcha should cover it (with their own take). It will be a smash hit
New Edition was the foundation of modern "pop groups", you can trace their lineage through to k-pop. For example, Maurice Starr was the manager for both New Edition and New Kids on the Block, and from New Kids on the Block onwards you had an explosion of boy bands and girl bands in the 90s, and k-pop is just the latest evolution. New Edition set the template and it evolved from there.
kpop was build on black culture, if we were to be honest
@@systemsafadown Honestly a lot of kpop stans tend to forget that lmao. Especially during the time some group was caught plagiarizing Tinashe and a lot of their stans and non-stans were quick to defend them
man im glad you exist, usually when people break stuff down and show their own production the stuff they be showing sounds ass, but your stuff definitely real nice, props for that
All respect, Josh ~ But I've had this sort of discussion with industry peers here in Seoul since the late 1990s, and the consensus is that new jack swing dominated the industry as a mainstream dance genre long before then: After Lee Hyun-Do left SM following the Hyun Jin-Young meth scandal (1993), he and late Kim Sung-Jae as Deux immediately debuted and pretty much perfected new jack swing (at least in the pre-HOT/SES SM Entertainment era) in the industry, albeit first introduced by Hyun Jin-Young and Wawa c.1990/1991 and later of course with Seo Taiji in 1992.
Either way, new jack swing was anything but unfamiliar prior to SES' debut, being the genre that especially ruled the K-pop dance track airwaves from 1993 on with 뮤, ZAM, NOISE, and even some of Cool and 룰라's catalog, alongside loads of 김창환-produced Swedish house/trance all the way up through the early 2nd gen.
Just consider how Deux' *나를 돌아봐* is still considered to be the quintessential new jack swing K-pop hit tune of the era. _And it was released in 1993_ .
I'm not a huge k-popper but have followed SHINee for a very long time, and I'm glad to hear more people are liking new-jack swing songs because their 2016 RETRO inspired album titled, '1 of 1' has the title track with the same name, would always make me groove and i didn't know the reason why back then, now I know. It made me learn about it, listen to the western artists that pioneered this genre.
And thanks to this video I know what other kpop songs to listen for similar vibes! 🥰
Just make me appreciate that, '1 of 1' album was so AHEAD OF TIME for general public (Shawols consider it one of their top 3 album tho), because in that same album, SHINee also has a UK garage infused song called 'SHIFT' similar to Riize's 2024 'Impossible', IN 2016 PEOPLE!
JYP had a new jack swing song with Rain years ago
“Switch to Me”
Also with a cover performed by Twice’s rap duo Dahyun and Chaeyoung, if you prefer it that way.
Yes 👍 a playlist staple for me@@dafunkk12
Was looking for this. glad I wasnt the only one.
it's super good. as is the reboot with Chaeyoung and Dahyun
WHY IS NO ONE TALKING ABOUT THE HEAVENLY BEAT AT 6:13
it actually reminded me of vcha's only one dance break
I finally got into K-pop as well and have been stuck! I've been venturing over into J-pop and some Thai pop as well. The production quality is amazing!
I remember Shinee doing New Jack Swing, for 'One of One' comeback. The producers on K-pop music songs have often looked to Black-American music trends of past and present as a well of inspiration. They did their homework and the appreciation is there. Is it really dead? Bruno Mars revived it for his 24K Magic album, but I guess it's been years since then.
Garage is still quite popular in the UK, and was created & popularised by predominantly Black British DJs - It's insane, wherever in the black diaspora you go, just how many music genres across the world were invented by the black people in those countries. It boggles the mind!
As a Brit, I always wanted an artist to have a global garage smash hit song, and high-key expected it to be a British artist. If somebody told me a Kpop idol would end up having the biggest global Garage hit ever, I never would've believed it. I love that Jungkook used Garage and brought the sound to the whole world all over again!
How come you didn't mention a single time that New Jack was a black music genre with proeminent black artists and just saying "it's a genre originating in the 80s"? Like from who wand where ? Is it that hard ? (no a simple cue of Bobby Brown doesn't cut it).
I thought the exact same thing! Like, it's kind of an important background and I wanted to know more about the origins, so I might as well just search for myself 😅
SHINee as always ahead of time, their 2016 '1 of 1' was New Jack Swing retro concept album that also contained a few UK Garage tracks and a bunch of other experimental goodness.
wow, I was so tired of those videos were the first 2/3 of the video were an entire documentary before getting to the main part in the last 1/3, so I expected to click of that video as soon that was the case. But you found such a nice balance for when to continue the history the music theory and the practice side of things. I really liked how we could first see the practice of the swing and groove before you told us why they even used new jack swing, at that point we all already new that the genre had groove and then just saying it dances nice came so naturally. Really nice video, love the format and the quality too. Liked and subscribed. Wasn't even into K-pop one bit, loved the video anyway. I found to appreciate K-pop more after this video.
...The history and explanation IS the main part.
thank you!
@@notreally-sf3df that'd be good if he knew anything about the history of it within kpop
Wow, you took me from knowing nothing to knowing a little bit [not your fault, there's so much to learn her]. I'm sure I'll learn a lot more by sticking around here with you, thank you :)
very well made video.
Glad you mentioned the use of UK Garage fused with K-pop
imo, another reason for why new jack swing (and other styles like house and disco) are making it’s way into kpop is because recently kpop has been connecting with street dance more closely and of course the music that accompanies those styles gets popularised and released too. east asia still has a decent new jack swing dance community
i absolutely love this sound and i’m happy to see it come back
lemme guess before i even watch the video, New Jack Swing?
Your production is super on point, I also love that you mix a lesson with industry context, gery original and cool.
one of the best ukg kpop releases this year is definitely LOOP by YVES !!!!
you ain't kidding!
Heavy on that^^
4:57 ARTMS ND YVES SPOTTED
I'm loving this Kpop trend. I'm glad I found your video on it, it's super interesting.
Thanks for the analysis. Supernatural sure reminded me of every little Step by Bobby Brown.
totally
Wow! Came here to see what's new in K-Pop. I was glad to see New Jack Swing influence (love it) and OMG how I was surprised to reach the part when you talk about UK Garage! As a UKG DJ and producer, I had to LIKE and SUBSCRIBE! Good content! Thank you!
Now that i discovered TripleS here, i find that they sound so similiar to New Jeans and im so happy to have found them! Almost like they have same producers, or the producers use sometimes very similiar things they add to the song. As you said NJ is more simplistic and i think has a stronger essence and charisma,listening to their music feels more whole. TripleS mixes more stuff into their music so it can appear a little bit chaotic, more diverse, but i still like almost all their songs. Idk i know nothing about music, but i like to learn here haha
Love Whisper and Me Gustas Tu are also examples of this genre.
I love to find channels like this one where you can learn a lot about K-pop.
New subscriber!
2:29 - Well, I just added this song to my Spotify
0:16 BRO WE ARE SO SAME.
Like doppelgängers?
Please mention the culture where New Jack Swing comes from and please name people like Teddy Riley for their contributions...
If you think jack swing was dead until kpop im gonna need you to listen to more music
Thanks, nice to watch, I think it's very relevant.
Central European here, used to play with SoulFunk bands in the 90ies.
I think some factors in the West are helpful, like the comeback of the Sugababes, they are better than ever, and their style has an unforgettable footprint.
This creates attention for some other retro styles, if the producer can add a modern element also.
Prince has left over lots of exciting musical ideas, ready to rediscover. I found "Cream" very remarkable, it did age well.
Have fun and produce some big hits!
i really loooooved that you broke down each element of jack new swing and how it varies from traditional hip hop and r&b. this was very helpful to me as a music aficcionado who doesn't have formal education, but is highly interested on production techniques, genres et al. i'm deffo subscribing and exploring more of your chanel since it's hard to find deep and well produced material about k-pop MUSIC... algorythm has always given me reaction vids. lol
i have just one little note: new jack swing may have fizzled out for a couple of decades in the western market, but it's been very present in japanese idol industry throughout the 2000s - from its electronica evolution in city pop to downright nostalgia repetition. maybe you know about them, but i must mention tokyo girls' style's (OG formation) discography was heavily based on it.
and yes, k-pop's take on it has had a more contemporary flare but j-pop is worth mentioning.
as soon as I saw them dance with the microphones it reminded me of New Edition's - If it isn't love
Awesome lesson/tutorial, I was not intending to learn anything but I did! Thank you for explaining so well, keep it up!
love the in-depth analysis of these styles and genres. it shows you are knowledgeable, and have done your work to research it. subbed!
im really living in peak k-pop these couple of year new jack swing is my ult favoruite genre boyz to men, new edition, bobby brown, tlc johnny gill etc
This throwback to the 80ties, early 90ties is so funny for me as a person who lived through this era as a teenager. My vinyl collection has all the new jack swing and UK garage original songs on them. You forgot to mention Janet Jackson. Her songs utilized new jack swing the best.
Also, MJ's dangerous album
It's just like fashion comes back in trend after awhile, haven't heard it in long time and then it sounds new again. Vinyl is same.
Just a quick thing: UK garage is also heavily influenced by garage house music, specifically the faster syncopated stuff that arose from New Jersey. Todd Edwards was incredibly influential to UKG music, as well as speed garage (which is sort of a halfway point between house and UKG that mixed a fast, ~130pm four on the floor beat with jungle basslines and samples).
amazing video man wtf. super clean and to the point! Shout out!
2:51 🥴👉👈 caught in 4k
loving this new style of video keep it up man !!
glad yall enjoy it
blue orangeade you will always be that queen. first song on txt's debut ep mind you.
Bruno Mars brought back New Jack Swing in 2016 with 24K Magic album.
Thank you for sharing and explaining. That was really educational and helped alot with understanding music.
They two, New Jeans and TripleS really have good song for the up generation i love some Red velvet song
Yes or No by GroovyRoom samples L.O.V.E by Brown Eyed Girls
i really liked this video as an explanation for genres, people dont explain genres very well and you did a good job with a simple to the point explanation even if im not interested in music production
u just answered a life long question of mine on the "beat" that i always seems to love.
dawg you cooked on this video. i love how you structured it + your own promo + ending video recommendation. so fresh
Dude! You're awesome! You know so much! I love how well and clear you explain it! Thanks! So cool! 😎
Shinee did this with 1 of 1, 8 years ago... Wonder Girls did it with Reboot, 9 years ago. Both albums were based off that entire era of music. New Jack Swing has been a pretty normal genre to hear in various other b-sides from other groups for the past years, I mean, you showed it yourself. The only difference now is that they're making it title tracks, I guess
I'm sure pretty much every kpop fan can name a beloved b-side by their own favorite group/soloist that is New Jack Swing. It's been a constant for years
the pop up editing and transitions in this video are so seamless and crazy sound design is also such a great detail
Basically, late 80s and early 90s groovey vibes. I was kid during that time, so when I heard New Jeans for the first time I immediately recognized the era that inspired them.
Young posse is bringin the old hip hop aesthetic like the music, new jeans gives the 90s vibe, this generation its amazing because you can realive the music
Music genres dont die they just go around the way and come back again, when New Jeans came out my daughter asked me to check them out she said they sound new, so i did and told her thats not new, thats what we danced and sang back in the 90's.
the beats are sick bro, nice work
gfriend and a few other group were doing new jack swing kpop way back on the 2010s, but they didn't pop off as new jeans was, uzi was a fan of gfriend too
Dead Genre? What? New Jack Swing has ALWAYS been in Kpop, literally EVERY year, always, ever since the dawn of K-Pop. It's literally like the main Genre K-Pop always falls back to. Cmon dude.
I don't think he meant dead in kpop specifically, he showed that kpop has BEEN using it, but dead in general, i can't mention the last time i heard njs
Damn what you made is so gooooood
I wouldn't say SES is the first to do New Jack Swing in K-pop. Seo Taiji did it in the early 90s. You also had songs like 이승철 - 방황 which were Bobby Brown inspired New Jack Swing in 1993.
Josh, as a fellow musician (prob around same age too lol), I also fell in love with NWJNS's retro pop style every since they came out! And after watching your other videos, I can't help but recommend Twice's discography since it looks like you're into the same type of music as me ha. To me they were the first kpop group I heard with true retro throwbacks to 70s-90s r&b, pop, and soul (of course after their initial bubble pop era). I'd recommend checking out Baby Blue Love, Moonlight, and Believer if you like that style.
banger songs!
i love your editing
"Every Little Step" was my favorite song in '89.
new jack swing has been on the rise for a decade now
Haven't heard Supernatural before, but immediately just a few seconds of the song blasted me back into the 80s. The first song to come to mind is Straight Up by Paula Abdul.
josh i love this bro defiently got my sub
you are SPOT ONNNNNN!!!!!
I feel like there should have been more mention of the fact that Teddy Riley himself is a huge producer in kpop and has been for years. Of course a genre that he was instrumental in creating would make its way there with him
I didn't realize there were so many NJS kpop songs, another song I recommend is Wow by BTOB
actually, before S.E.S there was Seo Tai ji, but you got it, New Jack Swing is the zygote cell to KPOP, the fundamental genre to KPOP exists, also love the tripleS mention they have amazing new jack swing-inspired beats
SeoTaji and the Boyz didn't do New Jack Swing. They were more commerical Pop/ Hip Hop and Metal/HipHop ala Beastie Boyz.
DEUX and it's member Lee Hyun Do is credited as the father of New Jack Swing in Korea. Back in the early 90's he was the main rival of Seo Taiji.
He went on to be a well know producer who still makes songs in the New Jack genre.
He also inspired Yoo Gun Hyung of Untitle. It is well know that he modelled himself after lee hyun do and new jack swing. He also went on to be a famous producer, having also co produced Gang Nam Syle.
Even H.O.T. has a New Jack Swing track in 1996
came here to say, no it never died
As someone who lived through the New Jack Swing era in the US, it is GREAT to see it coming back! (Wish it would come back in US too). ❤
Glad Newjackswing is getting some love again, was officially introduced to the genre through GTA San Andreas, big fan of Bobby and Johnny Gill and Aaron Hall.
Nice vid - yeah i did think this would be the use of UKg and NJS. The american version way of saying 'gur-arge' threw me for a second though :D We say gah-ridge.
the jump in quality of ur videos is insane man
You have introduced me to kpop. That's a big deal. Thank you.
welcome back bro!
just letting you know, i subbed at 1second when i heard the melee shine sound
New Jack Swing isn’t the same if Teddy Riley isn’t the one producing. Just something about him being behind production you know its gonna be gold standard
Man I love new jeans but I love Triple S even more that group puts out really fun funky songs
Awesome video 🔥 beats were fireee
Love the video format, subbed
1st gen kpop was always like this
Yesss esp baby vox and Ses
Oh my gosh!!!! TripleS, wjsn, and exid mentioned!! I knew there was something I particularly liked about their music, and now I have the words to describe it
what is that website you used at 3:15 to scroll through and listen to different genres? is it some sort of wikipedia page? i'd love to find out, but i couldn't use google lens to search for it.
Not unusual at all, as others pointed out Teddy Reilly (a key player in New Jack Swing) currently does production for a lot of K-Pop.
Most of my life, aunties, uncles, moms and dads that grew up in the 90s will tell you New Jack was always being played at parties or in the radio one way or another. If you really want to get the feel of it I recommend you to listen to the "mo'money" and "new jack city" soundtracks. And listen to Bobby Brown, New Edition, Guy, Christopher Williams, AL B Sure, Hi-Five, ABC, BelBivDevoe, Ralph Trasvant, Keith Sweat, Color me Bad, Heavy D and the boyz, Jade, The Boyz, Jodeci, Tony Toni Toné, SWV, Boyz II Men and list goes on and on. LoL yes I know I may have gone overboard but hey when you know you know. 😂
Hey I'll rewrite the intro for you, here we go: "Something unexpected is happening in the k-pop industry. This genre from the 90s is taking over modern k-pop music. But Why? And how? And more importantly, how can you avoid following trends which will probably be stale by the time your actual song gets released given the lengthy turnaround times of the industry, and instead do something that will be more fresh and interesting?"