Mosko Moto Boundary IR Jacket & Pants | Ride Tested Review
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- The new Mosko Moto Boundary IR Jacket and Pant. Designed to compete with the Klim Badlands, Carlsbad, REV'IT!, Rukka, Alpinestars and other high end adventure riding suits. Waterproof, integrated armor, CE AA rated, well ventilated. Is this the best waterproof riding suit available? #moskomoto #motorcycle #adv
⚡Boundary or Basilisk? The Basilisk is cheaper, does not have armor or pockets or armor included, and does not have CE AA certification.
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⚡The key reason why the Boundary gear is superior to the competition (in my opinion) is the lack of the mesh interior hanging liner that makes other jackets feel hot, bulky and uncomfortable.
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The lining in jackets and pants may seem silly but it actually adds to the protection of the garment by creating a slip layer between the outer shell and your skin (not so different from MIPS in helmets). Especially in high falls from slower speeds, the impact is harder than low siding at high speeds and skin tearing can happen without a rupture in the Jacket/pants. Allowing the skin to slide independently a bit after initial impact can help.
You are absolutely right. There is an excellent video of an Australian institute about this matter if memory doesn't fail me.
@@vplph I think that might be MotoCAP.
Well said. If comfort was first priority, we would be sitting in air conditioned cars instead of riding motorcycles.
Serious question:
Is this not basically the same as the MSR Xplorer gear?
On paper it has just about the same features: Superfabric, eVent liner, 500d stretch cordura in the non-wear areas, same zippers, etc...
The only advantage I see here is CE Level II armor.
Am I wrong? Why is this worth 3x the price?
Asking you because they don't make this in my size so I can't try it myself, lol.
It is more comfortable and is CE AA certified. But besides that, it's functionally similar. You can't beat that MSR gear for the money, hands down.
@@BigRockMoto I find the MSR combo very comfortable. If you're seriously riding offroad you should have a chest/back/shoulder protector and knee/shin guards anyway.
@@braaaaaaaaaaap All armor in motorcycle gear is shit, won't protect you from anything. Road rash? yes, broken bones? you're kidding yourself.
I’m with you…I tried it on at MMM and could fit…Pete makes it for his size…haha!!!…Us Beefy guys are left out….ha!
@@JohnSmith-rp8uhhow is is simultaneously shit but will also save you from road rash? 😂 Goofy statement.
One nice review….2 - Pete makes everything for his size…there are more Middle Aged “Beefy” folks like me and didn’t fit so well…I Tried it on at MMM and way to small…So Klim makes my size unfortunately. Love their stuff on everything else….3- Dual sport I like separate armor….but BDR’s long haul adv riding…suit is great!!!….Again nice job!!!!
Thanks Ian for this great review on this jacket, love the lighter armour, I like integrated armour, but removable if you need to wash the gear. Love the new lining with better insulation, thank you.
Great review and I'm with you on the Mesh jacket request. I'm in Florida where summer weather is completely unbearable and I tend to throw caution to the wind in order to lessen my chance of heat stroke. I currently use the Knox Urban Pro under the Mosko Basalisk jacket with the woodsman pants. My request from Mosko would be a single layer mesh with intigrated armor in both the jacket and pants. With super fabric just in the impact zones. No liners. Those of us in the hot humid SE require as much air flow as possible.
Love MM products but I’m not convinced with this line. Very expensive for eVent fabric and super fabric, the SAME used in the $400 MSR Xplorer… plus it competes with top of the line adventure jackets from manufacturers with decades of experience and multiple revisions. This jacket lacks adjustment, breathing, thermal liner, and look meh at best.
Personally I have recently made the change to stand alone padding. Bought an Alpinstars Bionic jacket. Thats mesh with pads. Then if it rains or gets cold, I can throw my Scorpion Yukon gear on over it. 100% waterproof. Love it
Another great review Ian. Instead of letting the comments about how expensive good gear is dominate the conversation, why not lean into it and review some Aerostich or Motoport gear? You do a good job of reviewing high-end bikes. Let's get some exposure for custom gear makers too. 😎👍
I don't see why you commented about not letting us comment on the cost. Cost is real for most of us and a big factor for making a purchase.
I agree with you about Mosko making some mesh gear with the AA rating. I'd get it if and when available.
Thank you Ian for this review. I have concerns about the venting. I purchased the Basilisk last year (after much thought and counting dollars), seemingly good quality. I found the jacket extremely stiff initially (still stiff months later), good waterproofing, and although a bit long pretty decent comfort. So this was fall/winter riding. Now in summer weather, the front vents are not great to be honest, they simply will not flow air. Did I purchase a jacket that was slightly too large? maybe…not sure. All I know is I am no longer wearing it. I find KLIM gear to be exceptional in terms of fit, in terms of comfort and flows air much better. I understand what you are saying about that inside mesh however I would rate KLIM gear way above my Mosko Moto jacket. Just my thoughts and experience.
And if they do a mesh version, please sell any waterproof or thermal layers separately rather than forcing you to buy them and driving up the price for no reason. (Looking at you, Rev'It)
Prefer integrated armor ... definitely see the perspective of folks that prefer separate armor, just not my jam (for both enduro or adv riding)
i have not tired this jacket on....the mesh of the Klim is better against bare arm skin....i wonder if in the Boundary of my bare arms be sticky against what looks like a smooth material surface
Reminds me of the Aerostich Darien
Thanks for this really informative review Ian, I tried the Boundary (static) a few weeks ago and it is definitely a great option. I really like You elaborating on further development on the gear. What do You think of the jacket compared to the Basilisk when You removed the armor? I could really see myself choose the Boundary pants over the Basilisk pants. This due to the convenience to use the in pants armor. Happy Trails!
I prefer this to the Basilisk - seems overall nicer and more protective. I like the armor option as well. But, if you won't be needing the jacket armor, probably save the money and stick to a basilisk jacket?
@@BigRockMotoThe Boundary gives the option to choose type of protection to different type of rides, thats a nice feature. Really like tha Basilisk but mine is scarred and patched so t's time for a new. The Boundary could be an option. Was husr curious if Yiu feel much difference while riding. Keep up the good work 👍
I would say that everything I have gotten from mosko so far has exceeded my expectations. Yes it’s pricey but I don’t see anyone else approaching this fit and finish or durability.
Agreed
An updated Basilisk with integrated armor is supposed be released later this summer. Will be interesting to see the Boundary compared to new Basilisk with integrated armor.
It's out now.
Awesome video! Whew! That is pricey! I can't speak for their clothing but I have several pieces of luggage and it is very good. Some of the best I have seen. If that's an indication it's probably pretty good! Best!
Good review. Have you consider printing your "Big Rock Moto logo" on the black acoustic panels? I think it would look really good.
Mosko makes great luggage and I do own the backcountry panniers. But the statements about the mesh liner being not comfortable seems like marketing strategy. Nothing in that jacket justifies the price tag. There is similar gear available for so much less.
I love mosko luggage even though it's very over priced.
I wear the klim Kodiak. I wanted the badlands but it was too boxy. The Kodiak has long attend and torso that fits me better.
Great review.
I prefer armor integrated into jackets, so when the jacket comes off, so does the armor.
Mosko isn't the first one to make unlined waterproof breathable abrasion resistant and removable armor jacket. My Aerostich Darien light has all that and wear relatively cool
Great review Ian - answered a lot of questions I had. After dealing with Klim on warranty issues (a horrendous experience) on a set of Badland pants, and two pairs of Baja S4 gloves, I won't buy another Klim product and am looking for options.
My Baja S4 gloves, I love..but stiching comes apart after...9 mths.
Tbh if I had to pay for overpriced outfit I would go for the Fox ones. MM would come second and Klim last. Today I ride Revit Proteus and any jacket I have that fit the weather. Down there an acerbis waterproof pant does the job (but not as breathable as my old Dainese goretex I had before).
IMHO spending the money in the armor is better.
would love to see Mosko mesh......I prefer armor separate....
separate Armour doesn't work for everyone, Armour strapped to my body causes me severe skin rashes every time.
Way over priced for what you need. I'm 67 years young and have been riding dirt and street bikes since I was 12 and have toured all over the states (poring rain, below freezing and caught in snow storms) and this stuff is a waste of money (for me) unless your rich and have money for what ever you want or just want the status of it then go ahead and blow your bucks. LOL.
I agree, especially when they make it in Vietnam Bangladesh and China.
Are you ever going to review the aerostitch R3?
What about the sizing? Thanks for the review.
I prefer integrated armour , I have some Merlin jacket that incl. integrated for the road. Alain & Yellow
Can’t go wrong with Mosko gear!!! I prefer separate armor…
Would you buy this for someone who does road riding only? If not what would be your pick for a road rider
Did I miss something in the video? Like the price for the Mosko combo? I won't begrudge anyone who wants to fork out all those Benjamins for gear. As for me, I bought a Spidi H2Out jacket & pants about 10 years ago for less than $500 and it still works great.
Mosko is making some good products, as is MSR, MSR however needs more refinement and a CE Baiting IMHO and they will be really going good.
Heck even Sedici has a CE Raiting, if they can do it, so can MSR.
Good review. A lot more informative than several I've seen. I like their thinking and products. I'd like to be at BMWMOA NAT'L to try on their gear. Great bunch to deal with. I may do a set or at least the pants. I really like those. You can move in them. Good cvid, keep up the good work. Next time. Sur they will come thru with a mesh version. All competitors have them. Open market.
Apart from being quite expensive, the one thing that puts me off with this jacket is the quite boring design. MoskoMoto has always attracted me (becoming my go-to riding gear) due to its functionality, performance, but also aesthetics.
The Mosko designers are on point,it looks like they hit a home run
At this point, I took the back protector out of all my jackets and wear my Dainese Smart Vest (air bag) under my main gear. I’m leaving the elbow protectors, tho. That’s about it.
For my use, it’s the perfect blend of versatility and protection.
Great tip!
Hmmm. How is it working out for you?
Integrated. I want as little hassle as possible.
Are the zips any different to the Basilisk? Rain finds a way through those zips after any decent shower 10 mins +.. only truly waterproof I've ever had is Rukka dropin (goretex) liner with the neck gaitor.
These days I wear separate armor, layers and take a Scotts waterproof over jacket and pants to break out when required.
Any time someone tells me that our economy is in the toilet, I’m sending them a link to this video of a $1200 jacket. What sort of commission can I expect for sending customers your way? 😂
He mentioned fitting an airbag jacket. What about a review of airbag jackets? I use a Helite tethered jacket which goes outside my jacket. A number of them go under the jacket.
coming in a day or two...
That rheon armor is worth looking at. Thx!
Thank you for this!
My pleasure!
I like their products and the idea of wearing separates for hot weather riding.However, i don't see nothing different from. Ventilation looks poor. I'm currently recovering from a fracture elbow due to my front tire washing off on fresh gravel while going 45 mph. I have the Held Carese Evo jacket with pants and it did its job in protecting. I could have been worse. I think the elbow armour shifted or it could have been just blunt force from the fall at that speed. From now on, i will be wearing separates or atlease for elbow and knees. No interest what so ever on this jacket and pants as i ride warm weather.
Well there stuff is Top Notch, let's make sure we're NOT making a statement about the Fabric that you did over comparing it to Gortex !!!
Nothing Compares To GORTEX...
NOTHING
Close But NO CIGAR
Good thing I was sitting down while I checked the price on the jacket….
Nice heads up, I was in bed 😂
Way overpriced!
2:31 This was helpful, but not nearly long enough. I'm going to need to see a couple more minutes before I'm convinced these dungarees are waterproof.
They are waterproof, what more do you need?
Terrible baggy fit.....how does the armor stay in place with such ill-fitting pants? Also a coolmax liner is so much nicer against the skin in warm weather and flows air better so i don't agree on the no liner design. I have one for my dirt gear when wearing separate armor and have tried it just over a tshirt. Not good. Im a Mosko luggage user but the clothing gets a no from me.
😂 1300 euros jacket. Crazy sunday riders. Buy yourself a Revit Sand for 1/3 the price. Thank me later
Tell us how having the rain layer inside the actual jacket makes any sense. I have the Sand, and after using it extensively, the design philosophy makes zero sense.
@@gzahnd i do agree with you, the rain layer inside is crap, but it is on any outfit. I advise buying a proper rain layer to put over the gear. Will still save 700-800 euros 😂
I love how mad dudes get at Mosko prices (like Arc Teryx, Klim, and other high end brands), angrily typing their opinions with their little fingers into the TH-cam comment box. And yet, yet! The market always quietly and certainly buys the gear to the point of Out of Stock, then beats the everliving shit out of said gear, and it lasts, and lasts, and lasts. Keep up the cheapskate perspective, internet ragers! I’ll always have my popcorn. :-)
👍🙂.
Interesting idea, but too much “American fitting” ..
TSK,,, I DON'T LIKE LINERS IN JACKETS,,, IT MAKE JACKETS LOOKS UGLY AND HOT,,,
Rubbish. The inner liner acts as barrier to prevent the plastic feel of the jacket against you and your skin. It helps with not feeling clammy. This is a paid review basically. When you get stuff for free and have such a good relationship with a company, you're never going to be critical so hear it from me!
I tried the pants, not the jacket and here are my quick thoughts.
- The fit is weird, bunches too much and the armor is so pliable that it just bunches up and effectively becomes useless. You need a firmer armor that cups the knee and that can tuck into the boot. Look at Adventure Spec Linesman pants, they designed this correctly with the tuckable armor.
- The pants are extremely stiff, which owes to the bunching mentioned above. Look at Ian's knees. He doesnt mention this or critique it. No chance that armor is in the right place.
- The hip armor is laughable.
- The pants have no liner so any exposed skin will immediately feel clammy/sticky.
- Pants are almost too low cut and not comfortable on the bike. The crotch area should have more gusset? I dont know. Bad design.
- Heavy and uncomfortable. I ride with the Adventure Spec Linesman pants. Feel like hiking pants, have excellent airflow and are so comfortable. When it rains, I add a Klim forecast pants or my REI Rainier pants. Done.
- The jacket...well, no chest armor pockets. Really? For $1300 and not even chest armor pockets? All the competition has these.
- Vents seem covered with flaps to prevent water ingress so the I assume the wind pressure will basically just close these vents.
Anyone paying $1300 for the jacket and $850 for the pants either has a lot of money and it doesnt matter to them which is perfectly fine or has seriously fallen for the hype and marketing of Mosko. I shake my head...
Totally agree.
You used to do very good and common sense reviews, with " independent " opinions, but I am sorry, this is a paid commercial or advertising ... and this, could be the end of your reputation.
Now, you not only get paid a commission on any sale done trough your links, now, you also get paid a salary for doing this reviews !
Now, your reviews, enter in the sane game as the deslers reviews, no value, no trust. I feel sorry for you.
What you have said when comparing it with Klim Badlands, is simply not true, and you repeated it several times. Did some one really belief you ? I dont think so.
The inner mesh liner of Klim, DOES NOT AFFECT THE BREATHABILITY, have you seen it ? but a close still picture of it.
Why you did not mention Klim triple A ... ( AAA ). Strange.
I have both, Mosko and Klim, many products, and have paid for it full retail price, no relationhip to the brand.
Klim is superior in most aspects. Brand to dealer, and dealer to consumer. Real world business, personal advice, you can see and touch before you buy, no mistakes.
Mosko is very good, no doubt, simply and efective, but to expensive for what you get for your money. An online business, brand to consumer. Everything is virtual, and should be cheaper.
Both, similar MSRP. But, with Klim, my local dealer keep in business !
I am not paid a salary by Mosko or any others. I've been doing reviews like this for years and have been just fine.
@@BigRockMoto If you can turn around and sell $2300 worth of products, then you are being paid. You can try and justify it anyway you want, but you are receiving money. I think you are trying to play a game of semantics.
@@twowheeladventures63 and I think you have no idea what you're talking about. Are you new? New to BigRockMoto and Ian's videos? You're conclusion is dead wrong. We all follow him, because he's honest..which is why he didn't respond to your ignorant "semanitcs" conclusion. Seriously you're off on this one.
Disappointed Ian. You asked for feedback, you're getting it - don't link yourself to shitty companies.
Mosko moto is shitty? What did they do?