You used exactly the same word i would use! Emil is delusional. Bethesda isn't king of dlcs since Blood and Wine dlc for The Witcher 3, and even less now after this debacle of shat in space, wich isn't EVEN CLOSE to a Phantom Liberty.
To be real, the sooner companies like Bethesda, Ubisoft, Square Enix, Activision, Electronic Arts, etc. collapse because of their own greed, lack of creativity, and ineptitude the better it will be for the gaming world. Sets a tone for any other developers who create trash products.
@@kylefarris8866 don’t get me started on those companies! They will all get their own video from me one day soon. It’s definitely that though; money over art. And nowadays we get studios in Japan, Europe coming in and smashing them to pieces and picking up all the accolades and awards. But what’s worse, is that the studios you mentioned ser this, and don’t care! They’re like “sure your games are more enjoyed, but look how much money we’re making! We work 2% as hard and profit double!” It’s really the worst side of gaming
no new companions.., that's when he lost me, there are 2 new companions.., just not romanceable. ... but do believe, there is missing content (needed more juicy bits..).. buy Shattered Space is no where near as bad as many make it out to be.., and completing Shattered Space by going on foot everywhere like F4 (no jetpack flying, no vehicle), it would take a longer ...
Ubisoft is in the market for acquisition as we speak unironically... but the most likely to bid is Tencent lol. So if you think they were bad before, prepare yourself for infinitely much worse. And that's not to excuse modern ubi by any means, just contextualize the future of AAA
Emil saying "no one knows DLC more than us" says a lot about the internal attitude at BGS. To me it reads "we're so far up our own ass that anything we do is gold," which, as you explained, just isn't true anymore. As creatives and producers you still need to keep up and push boundaries. It reminds me of the reaction to Baldur's Gate 3's success where other RPG makers were like WOAH guys! You can't expect us to do that! hahahaah c'mon where's the spirit in this industry
Step 1. Fire Emil and Todd Step 2. Hire some damn writers (Chris Avellone anyone?) Step 3. Clean up the trash on the "creations store." Step 4. Add meaningful content (mechs, space station building) Step 5. Free updates like no mans sky. Step 6. Comeback story. I like this game, but this dlc is pathetic. 6 reskined weapons, 5 hour story, and 30 plus reskined outfits.
mate, what u describe is called "creating a new dev studio" ... why even call it Bethesda afterwards? Let the zombie die, other studios are already picking up the torch.
I defended FO4, I defended 76. I believed the Starfield hype. I played 20 hours and uninstalled it and won’t be buying ES6 until after reviews. Bethesda completely lost all my trust.
Similar story here. I hated Fallout 76, didn't defend it. But everything before that I loved. I have so many Bethesda games, thousands of hours sunk into them, including Fallout 4. But after 76 I was skeptical, and when Starfield came out I only managed to play for about 40 hours and then I just... couldn't stand it anymore. And I waited a year for Shattered Space to fix everything. In a year they fully transformed Fallout 4 -- it had SIX DLC in that time, some VERY good. But here with Starfield, I got 1 DLC and it didn't do ANYTHING to help resolve the base game's problems. At this point, I'm just done with Bethesda. They've lost me. They shoved me out the door and closed it, and I'm not looking for a way back in. I'll stay gone until a review says one of their games is the best thing ever, nearly flawless. Only then will I come back, because they've burned bridges with me too much.
Fallout 4 was objectively good. Fallout 76 was objectively bad. But it still had some good parts ... like something a developer would sneak in when the boss wasn't looking over their shoulder. But Starfield was just bad. And THIS, is INSULTINGLY bad!
Looks like they cut it from the base game to use as a DLC. Allusion is made throughout the base game, you even have Andreja who is Va'runn but there's no faction of them in the base game, it's very odd.
That’s how it felt. It felt and set up just like a faction quest line. Maybe they added more side quests or pois but I feel like this content was meant to be in the main game but got cut. There’s no proof and it’s just a hunch. It doesn’t feel like a full expansion. It’s like an add on.
Right. Like in CP277 when they cut Dogtown out to use as DLC. Also like Phantom Liberty, this DLC can be completed in add little as 5 hours. And also has 11 side quests. Both are trash. /s
@@wookieepeltexcept phantom liberty was of much finer quality all around, and released several major updates that overhauled game mechanics prior to the DLC.
@@wookieepelt Nope, you are wrong. Phantom Liberty can be completed in about 5 minutes or if you play the whole storyline should take about 30 hours before you do the side quests.
P.S. Don’t apologise for being right. You nailed Bethesda’s obvious, unambiguous, cynicism. And I just don’t believe this Emil guy’s staggering tone deafness. His horse armour remark was the equivalent of Hannibal Lecter telling us he respects the sanctity of human life! They’re gaslighting us because they’re reaching early retirement age and they wanted a cash cow to pump money into their retirement funds. Hasn’t Todd already hinted that he doesn’t have another game in him after this upcoming Elder Scrolls?
Thanks for the feedback and a few people have mentioned the apologising thing so it’s honestly vital feedback for me to learn and grow from. I think as I make more videos I will stick to my guns more. But gaslighting is such a great term! I’m doing a video on Emil next because he’s said so many things recently that are so absurd it’s painful. He just said, a day ago, thst starfield is their greatest game. The nerve’
The "DLCs" you describe are really just what was traditionally called an "expansion". BG 2's Shadows of Amn, "Tiny Tina's Assault on Dragon Keep" for Borderlands 2, all the expansions for various MMOs, and so on... The smaller bits were referred to as micro-transactions, even if they were barely ever priced at an actual micro level. Stuff like the Warden's Keep in DA:O, Fire in the Sky for ME2, and so on. But yeah, Shattered Space falls more into the "micro-transaction" area of DLC than an expansion, but is priced at expansion levels. But honestly, I look at how people reacted to Starfield, and then at Bethesda's reaction to that reaction. I look at how lackluster the patches were, despite the glaring problems in Starfield. I look at how they once again try to monetize mods. It was obvious Shattered Space was going to be bad. Mind you, I think Bethesda really needed it to be good, for the sake of ES6 hype, but, well, the company is incapable of putting in the time and effort required to salvage their faltering reputation.
When a developer makes something this stupid, and expects you to buy it, what they are really doing is that they are saying they think YOU are stupid. And if you buy it ... they are correct!
Exactly! And I’ve had people defend it! If you defend this, you lower standards and basically let them get away with it. You have to hold people accountable! You can’t just let them put this out for $30 and take advantage because in my opinion that’s what they’re doing.
Me too…honestly especially after all this interviews. I worry what it’ll end up as. I’ve always believed that the Bethesda who made everything before Skyrim was still in there somewhere. Maybe they are, but right now I’m losing the faith. It’s like they disappeared and this is some evil corporation who are wearing a mask. You can’t even compare this dlc with previous dlc. I honestly am lost for words now lol
I‘m not worried for TES6. (Anymore) I‘m relatively sure that it will suck and now they have to surprise me positively to convince me otherwise. The last 13years they produced slop in my opinion. Even fallout4 was very controversial to me. (Dialogue system & building mechanic) It’s really mindblowing that they created Morrowind, oblivion and Skyrim all within 9years. Now one game takes them 5 to 8years but it still has only a fifth of the content and quality previous games had.
@@AVVGaming1 Well they indeed disapeared, because the last proper game they made was Skyrim and thats 15 years. Thats enough time for a core ppl to fluctuate elswhere. They are gone, some of em retired, as they made games for decades already. Beth totally blew it, they just milked Skyrim dead and forgot how to make games. Because to make good games, you need to do that continually, or the ppl and skill just vanishes. And thats what happened and now, when they are back to making games, we see the results of this hiatus. The studio is gone.
@@K.R.98 fallout 4 was okay but didn’t click the same with me as their previous games. But there was enough there to see they still made okay games. The dialogue was disappointing, in fact I did a whole video “how fallout 4 divides fans” where I explained all the things I felt it lacked. I cannot believe this studio has let things decline so much. It’s so drastic and it’s like 76, starfield, these are surely not the same people who made Morrowind, Skyrim, fallout 4. It’s just so sad to see and the worst thing is they don’t even see it. They think, and I quote email “starfield is their best game”. This whole thing is going to be my next video for sure.
@@AVVGaming1 I think the reason why they don't see how much they have fallen is because they believe their own hype. It's pretty clear in how they talk about themself that they still believe everybody loves them, it's still 2011 in their mind and they are still soaring high on skyrim, and they haven't made some really bad choices with Fallout 4/76 and starfield.
What I hate most about Starfield is the inconsinstency of realism. They made most of the planets empty due to realism. But then they didnt even bother to put realistic biomes on them. I cant count how often I have landed on a planet or moon with no atmosphere and water just to find plants and wildlife there after Vasco told me there is no life on this planet. As a big astronomy nerd this p*sses me off so much, lol.
@@Kintabl Yeah, right. Im send to a planet to survey it to find out if its inhabitable. And when I land there, there are fauna and flora and human outposts everywhere on it. So wtf is the point of surveying this planet? Clearly there have been humans there multiple times. Just do some research on the internet (or whatever the Starfield equivalent of the internet is) and Im sure there are all the informations you need. No point in sending people out there on stupid survey missions. Also, those buildings will start repeating with the same enemies the longer you play. Copy paste. Whats even worse tho are the lackluster fauna and flora on planets. There are multiple different biomes on a planet. But every biome has the same frickin animals. Savanna, swamp, snowy tundra, all inhabited by the same species. Realism and immersion my ass.
I prefer NMS because it embraces its own weird unreality and even makes it a plot point that the galaxy is an imperfect simulation. Starfield uses "realism" as a crutch to support its lack of vision.
When i tough it couldn't be worse! Remember they didn't make the new elders scrolls because this game and it took 9 yeara to do it and skyrim has more players currently than the fresh dlc
@@IsraelSocial exactly! I saw those stats today! How can they not be ashamed?! How can they let that be? I’d do everything I could get this back! But they just don’t seem to care. Their downfall will have to be studied because I’ve never seen something this drastic in a long time!
The expansion that just came out for Rogue Trader is fantastic. Great story, fabulous new companion. Plenty of new enemies, areas, gear, weapons, ship systems etc etc. And the lore additions to 40k are incredibly fascinating
Every single word you've said, sir, is TRUTH. About Bethesda's current approach to "create mystic image of their studio as Masters of DLC", to community, to technology and learning, and, of course truth about this Emil, who is either takes some skooma or just lost almost all his knowledge an dignity to at least be respectful to people, community (or just shut his damn mouth) after what pile of space dump they've released by the name of Starfield
Thank you! I’m doing a video on Emil next! It’s going to be a great video because he’s said so much stupid stuff that I can generally made a funny video easily
I think they bit off way more than they could chew and didn't realize it until it was too late. Then they had to delay release for a year to try and get the game into a playable state. Then they had to spend another year releasing patches and bugfixes. By now Microsoft wants some return on investment so it's DLC time, only they haven't got anything ready so they grab some cut content from the main story and slap a $30 price tag on it. Welcome to the new Micro-Thesda.
they should have realized it when the Creation Engine couldn't handle flying to a planet directly and needs multiple loading screens so it won't explode 😂
As people have said, this is likely just cut content. More shovelware from a studio with provably failed leadership. BTW, MattyPlays is literally the ruined hole serving as the BGS kum-dumpster. How sad he hung his future on a studio that anyone who is aware of the good games could see was failing...
Ding ding ding, ever since they were told Skyrim was the pinnacle of gaming they rejoiced made billions and gave you the mediocre you all so loved in Skyrim.
You've reached the point I was 5 years ago, where many gamers reached years before us. This wasn't a race, never was a destination, rather a process. Developing and justifying standards. This has become labeled "negative" or "toxic" and its progenitors "haters" but no one hates without love. The absence of love is apathy. Standards are harmful to ambiguousness, hurtful to people stricken with lassitude, but no process of positive change feels good. Good is the destination!
9:43 Welcome to modern BethesdaGS, takes more time, more money and eventually worse product. How can anyone be expecting anything from TES6 now ? All the best developers left Bethesda, even their last TES lorehead Kuhlmann. BGS is a shadow of its former glories yet it still living off Skyrim success.
For too long, Bethesda has been based on the work of screenwriters and just talented people who developed arena, daggerfall, morrowind, fallout 1, 2, and New Vegas. She managed to do this for an amazingly long time, apparently thanks to rare releases of games, but apparently, having lost many talented developers, they realized that the inertia of past greatness was evaporating, decided to make a new franchise, and only sat in a puddle.
I think one solution could be is that we need to let go of the idea that games need to look photorealistic. I can imagine it takes away a lot of the budget and it really doesn't add much to the experience.
I’ve never been a graphic obsessive. I much prefer the gameplay over everything. Like fallout new vegas ain’t the prettiest game, but the game is fantastic! Does starfield have better graphics? Yes, but it’s nowhere near as good. Gameplay has to come first and foremost!
I am disappointed with the writng and quests in Starfield and Shatter Space compared to their previous games. No more money from me unless they hire good story tellers.
5:49 CDPR is basically that "3rd employee in the skyscraper meeting meme that says the last, and personally wrong thing to the boss and is thrown out of the window" meme. The boss is every major company's boss after Witcher 3 DLC/Whole Freaking Game came out.
expansion packs used to be a pretty common concept, I remember being hype for AoE2's Conquerors expansion. We got lulled into DLC and small changes for a while, thanks horse armour, then CDPR introduced a new generation to expansion packs, which can now be downloaded. Audiences now expect expansions, but Bethesda's still hooked on DLC.
I think you made some very fair and well deserved criticisms of the game. Alot of people share the same views and concerns about Bethesda's poor and lacklustre releases after Skyrim.
It’s so tough to see and almost unexplainable! After all the great games they made, suddenly the do everything differently, the fans don’t like it and then they get mad at fans. I don’t understand it. They made great games but by the way they speak you’d think they’d never made those games.
@@AVVGaming1 the sell to Microsoft also came with a huge change in management and their development team. The writing was on the wall for them after the lazy release of Fallout 4 and even worse Fallout 76. I see Elder scroll 5 being a Cyberpunk lvl flop in terms of quality and disappointment
@@iMmunashe One of the problems is, everything has to be photorealistic nowadays, which probably eats a lot of the budget away. Combine it with the rise in overhead costs and the price of the game still the same as 20 years ago and you end up with something like starfield. I personally really don't care about photorealism. Skyrim's graphics are more than fine to me. Problem is, it doesn't look as appealing for a trailer, when you compare it to other titles.
My feed has quite a few reviews of this 'dlc' and none of them are positive. I wouldn't have bought in at 30$ anyway, but now that I've seen a few of these reviews I won't be buying in at any price. Even if it was free, the reviews are enough for me to not bother installing Starfield again to try it. 30$ in my pocket and many GB of extra space on my HDD. Bethesda ain't even trying to get this fan back -they just keep pushing me and my wallet away. Off to play Timberborn, I got a damn to build.
Great video as always! My hot take is Bethesda is no longer the Bethesda we once knew and loved. They have been taken over by Xbox and are now all about the money. None of their projects have any passion to them and it seems as though they’ve lost what made them great in the first place which is truly devastating. I’m really worried about Elder Scrolls 6 now and will most likely wait for reviews before picking it up IF we ever get it. Also, shout out to Metaphor Refantazio! Absolutely LOVING this prologue and can’t wait for its release on Thursday! Atlus always deliver in terms of content 🥰
They are no longer BGS of a decade and half ago due to the talent that made them great leaving or getting pushed out because they were too compentent or talented compared to Emil and Todd.
It's ironically almost certainly not Xbox's fault; I work at a MS owned studio, and if anything, the fault is a too hands-off approach from MS. It's frustrating to me; I am in the business and DO know exactly what it would take to make meaningful improvements and don't understand how they haven't. Literally even one designer, one modeler, not even an engineer for a year should have been able to more meaningfully improve the game since launch than it has with Shattered Sky, 500 developers, in that same year. I take no pleasure in saying this; Bethesda has been one of my favorite studios. I have almost 1800 hours in Fallout 4 alone, let alone Skyrim, let alone close to 500 hours in Starfield. I want to like Starfield; I really, really do. But it's so tough to see very simple, very cheap improvements that would drastically improve the game just not prioritized.
A hot take would be to say "Bethesda is back baby" 😀And of course it might be the same company name, but I would assume most people who worked on Skyrim, Oblivion or Morrowind are gone. I doubt that in this day and age there are a lot of people who work in the same place for 14-20 years. We live in an age of changing your job ever couple of years.
Wrong Bethesda was greedy fat before Xbox bought them . What corrupted them was the massive amount of money they made in Skyrim for the bare minimum work they did to make that game
The other side of the DLC coin, of course, is Larian. Despite BG3 fans effectively BEGGING for an Expansion to the game....an expansion which would have been the equivalent to printing money for the studio had they gone ahead with it.....yet they chose not to go ahead because "their hearts weren't in it". Instead they chose to focus all their efforts on releasing 7 extremely content-rich patches over the last 12 months.
Studios like Larian, Warhorse Studios, even small studios with indie developers are now setting the example. AAA studios like Ubisoft, Bethesda etc have shifted the focus to "milk the fans for money" and if they happen to make a game as well that's a bonus lol
As always an interesting and informative take. Love the channel. I actually just finished the main quest, did loads of side quests. I think about 23 hours for me. It was a nasty start,all the floting zero g stuff is not my cup of tea and the first few side quests were uninspiring: a weird duel between brothers and an unending fetch quest for scientists. However the quality improved a lot as i persisted. I really loved having everything on one planet, i wish this was the approach from the start. I enjoyed coming across a random cool side quest like Tomb of Fang ( or something like that). Theres also a really touching one about a man with dementia and an orphanage that was really moving. Mostly enjoyed the main quests after the bumpy start. I wasnt expecting phantom liberty, just more Starfield. Ive grown to enjoy the game but appreciate that many havent and respect where theyre coming from
I was bored throughout Shat Space. And I immersed, draw in to Phantom Liberty. I agonized over the choices in the game, and still think about it to this day.
My favorite part is how you pointed out that Bethesda used to not only make better add-ons for their past games, but also made *more* of it with a smaller staff within a similar time frame. I recently noticed that myself, and I was shocked at how little content Starfield really has a year after release in comparison. Most of their past games had most or all of their major DLC add-ons released within a year after the base game's release, but what does Starfield have? A lackluster "expansion" which feels like cut content and a bunch of smaller paid "Creations" that also suffer from obscene pricing for what they are? What an absolutely depressing fall from grace.
That's what hurts the most! How has it come to this? Smaller expansions, that cost WAY more money, that take MUCH LONGER to make and lack any enthusiasm. I can't really explain it, but I feel like there's not heart in it. Like, Hearthfire was added for the fans, to help add more depth to the game, for $5 and it felt like something nice to add and improve the game. Something they did for the love of it. This honestly feels like a sterile add-on. Honestly, I am so upset because I just expect better. They don't need to be as good as they were, but its the lack of effort that hurts. And the fact they say "oh we're great!" upsets me even more.
13:23 ...welp, I tried to see what point you were trying to make when it came to your own opinions, and it's just a stretched-out version of saying, Shattered Space should've been $15, and then more hiding behind other people's opinions. Wanted to finish the video, but I couldn't be bothered...
@@InconsequentialGaming pretty much! I’m sorry you didn’t enjoy the videos but I do thank you for the time you did watch them. I have a lot to learn but thank you for the feedback and critique.
It's great that you are finally coming around! Been telling everyone forever that Bethesda was a shovelware company and now it became so obvious that it can't be denied. Now the only thing that's left to acknowledge that it was never good to begin with, it's just that back in the day open world games weren't so common.
@@BIGESTblade when you’re saying is correct about them now. I do feel like Bethesda deserve their flowers for their past work. Open world games weren’t as common and they were able to break that. Some of their entries really paved the way for the games we have nowadays so I will always appreciate what they’ve done. However, the way they’ve been recently is really bad. To me, it’s not about the games being bad. It happens right? It’s the attitude! The arrogance. The push towards making more money over making a good game. If they release es6 and it comes out like starfield, it will be one of the biggest mysteries of all down regarding a fall off. I mean Kanye west is the same. Used to be the no 1 artist at one point releasing album after album. Now he can’t make 1 decent song. It’s crazy how some come in, offer so much, then just run out and completely forgot what and who they were. It’s so surreal to see.
@@AVVGaming1 Sure, they paved the way alright. So, you like what they've paved the way to? You've been enjoying all the DLC nickel and diming, all of the copy-paste open world checklist games and broken on release with day 1 patch games? I sure as hell don't, I remember what it was like before Skyrim. The worst thing by far is that because of Bethesda roleplaying games stopped being about writing and story. Even Obsidian is making a Skyrim clone. Obsidian, for crying out loud! The studio that made Knights of the Old Republic 2, the greatest-written and most profound game of all time. Everyone loves complaining about how bad Emil is at his job, but I really struggle to understand why would people that like anything that Bethesda made would take an issue with his writing. They wouldn't be playing Bethesda's slop if they had anything to compare it to.
@@BIGESTblade fair points and I also feel Ubisoft had a similar impact on the open world genre too! With their literal checklists, fetch quests etc. I guess maybe we had lower expectations before? And now others have come in and beat them out? Idk. I’ll doing a morrowind playthrough now (first time) and that will answer the questions I think
@@AVVGaming1 Yes, expectation were lower simply because the RPG genre was very niche. It was dominated by Bioware and pretty much no one else. Most people only discovered what a roleplaying game is after Bethesda sufficiently dumbed it down, I imagine the graphics also helped though. These days, thankfully, Larian Studios singlehandedly proved that for the past 15 years we were going the wrong way and there's a hope that from now on someone's gonna start making them like roleplaying games were always supposed to be made.
@@AVVGaming1don't you dare feel pity on Bethesda, the writing was on the wall since F4, they were a massive studio and has Microsoft backing now. There's absolutely no excuse fo this shat on space DLC. Todd and Bethesda don't deserve pity!
Haha thank you! It honestly upset me a lot! I’m relatively new at TH-cam so I’m still finding my way. I honestly am like a kid thst believes in Santa but suspects is pretend. I want to believe Bethesda are still there. I want to think the company who made Skyrim etc are still in there somewhere but maybe those days are past..
The mods like Matilija Aerospace are what keep me interested in the ship building. Nothing outside my ship is worth my time if it doesn't involve crew for my ship.
Bethesda didn't even try. Cut content from the base game added as a dlc they had to come out with because they'd already taken money for it. That's exactly what it is. That's exactly what it feels like. I'm done giving Bethesda the benefit of the doubt. It's a sinking ship without anyone skilled enough to pick up a bucket.
I won’t be buying GTA 6 either and after this generation of gaming ends, I’m done with gaming. (Done buying of course because I’m happy with what I already got)
@@PowerfulRift I’d say to play the game of waiting. You know the “good things comes to those who wait?” It’s so applicable in gaming! Like if you buy a game on day 1, it’s full price, the reviews might end up being bad, etc. but if you wait, you can check the reviews make sure it’s solid and then save money too! I refuse to pre order anything just because I don’t want to take that risk. It’s unnecessary for sure!
You don’t have to be done with gaming. There are so many great games that come out per year. I understand being mad at triple A games for being underwhelming. Very few triple A games live up to expectations. I think it limits your scope in what you can experience, burning you out. In the mean time, you need to look at indie games or non triple A games to find consistent experiences. It’s good to get outside your comfort zone and try different types of games.
@@ryanloveless3870 spot on! AAA games developed in the USA are going through a tough spot valuing money and profit over the actual quality of the game. The games made in Europe, Japan etc and indie games are making unbelievable games and that’s where I find my enjoyment now. I played shattered space and the xenoblade 3 afterwards and it immediately made up for it.
It is vital that Bethesda does not listen to criticisms of their games. People who claimed that they were Fallout 4 gamers but were not persuaded Bethesda to create an online fallout game. They then did not buy Fallout 76 and criticised it even more than they had criticised Fallout 4. This wasted 4 years of development time. If Bethesda had not listened to their critics then we would now be playing TES 6 and Fallout 5. I like the procedurally generated quests in Starfield because they ensure that I will have new quests to try until Fallout 5 appears in 2032. I am pretty sure that TES 6 will have 100% handcrafted quests but think that given the fact that the starfield universe is huge, procedurally generated planets were unavoidable.
Bethesda games were fantastic games as a teenager, but everything in them is just so antiquated now, quests, characters, the world, and its story are so boring as an adult, there's so much better games out there with deeper more meaningful things to tell
I've been noticing a trend... it's particularly noticeable in the recent reviews of Shattered Space... of people trying to apologize for "negativity" when providing their honest opinions in the hopes of avoiding the dreaded label of "toxic." It's not "toxic" to be honest. If something is bad, it's toxic to only talk about the good parts and minimize the negative parts. It would be equally as toxic to lie or exaggerate how bad something is when it's really not that big of a problem. DISHONESTY is what's toxic, not negativity. Be negative, if that's what a game deserves. Tear into it... and do it _honestly._ Don't tell me Starfield "didn't click" with people or that Shattered Space "didn't connect with" its audience. Neither of those statements are honest. It's not that the audience didn't "vibe" with the game or the DLC. That is a false framing that blames the customers for the product being mediocre. It's toxic marketing-speak, and I'm sick of hearing it. Call something what it is and either blame or praise the producers accordingly. Nothing will ever improve if we're mired in toxic positivity.
Thanks for the feedback! I am a relatively new youtuber and I didn't do the apologies purposely but a few people highlighted it in this video. On reflection, I noticed I have done is quite a lot....so this feedback is going to help me going forward. I have to stick to my guns, not worry about upsetting anyone, and just give my honest opinion unapologetically. You're right with what you're saying in that if you forgive mistakes, or are not truthful about something being unacceptable, the company will keep taking advantage of it.
Here are some other games I've enjoyed since Starfield is a bust and Emil is out of his mind. Remnant From The Ashes and Remnant 2 - both really great games to play around with lots if build options. Conan Exiles. The name put me off, it's so weird that they picked that but the game is great. Build almost anywhere, get gear to make your character stronger. I played solo only and had a great time with it. Division 2. Every time I go back after playing other games I'm like "dang, this is a good game." Lots of build possibilities and if you haven't played it yet there is a ton to explore.
Automatron: New companions, New enemy factions, new Mechanics (Pun not intended) make your own robots, I read Emil say that Shattered pants is qoute on qoute "akin to Far Harbour" well, I think that DLC is substantial and in my opinion their highest quality output in the past several years and this is nowhere near that level it's not even close to Automatron.
Bold of you to assume Bethesda cares. They haven't for years. Look at any of their recent releases, look at Fallout 76, look at their stance towards criticism; they ignore it. Look at how they treat Fallout fans, Todd is fine with Fallout fans not receiving another game for twenty years. What amazes me, is that Microsoft, or Phil Spencer is seemingly happy letting these utterly incompetent people sit on two highly valuable properties, in Fallout and Elder Scrolls. Properties that Microsoft paid for to own, to profit from. But they're not. Not like they could.
I have always argued to anyone who is not a gamer that this hobby, apart from the high upfront cost, is one of the best cost to time hobbies on earth. How did they make content that is more expensive than just watching a movie in the theater.
The difference is Hearthfire etc was actual EXTRA content for Skyrim.. while this "DLC" was *clearly* meant to be regular/base game content for Loadingfield that developers carved out to sell back to the players for another $30. Shameful!
Shattered space made me give Starfield another chance after being disappointed with it last year. But I modded it with the great StarWars Genesis modlist and I feel thats what Starfield always wanted to be :) Plays great, still engine and design limitations like 900 needless planets and a cluttered galaxy map and lots of loading screens remain. We need a mod that removes every generated planet and only keeps the ones with handcrafted content that are accessable in a neat list/ overview :)
Starfield has a skeleton crew, guaranteed. All hands are on deck for ES:6, which doesnt matter. Since they're so out-of-touch, it's probably going to be the lamest one out of the series.
Idk man, Todd’s baby (he’s been itching to make a space game for awhile) has a skeleton crew? I honestly doubt they’re even working on ES6, like i wouldnt be surprised
Is there anyway to see when the voice acting for Shattered Space was completed? It honestly felt like it was something that got cut from the base game rather than something new like most DLCs. And I just heard you say that I'm not alone in that feeling.
Phantom Liberty and the 2.0 update genuinely transformed Cyberpunk from a game I enjoyed into one of my favourite games of all time. Shadow of the Erdtree is basically a sequel disguised as a DLC. This is just embarrassing on every level.
Cyberpunk 2077 I have done many videos on. It was such an honest attempt to right their wrongs after the launch. I know a lot of people are mad at CDPR because of the whole Sweet Baby thing, but they have done nothing but show good faith in my opinion. They clearly care about their fans and give 110% to make things right. Cyberpunk 2077 is a fantastic game!
I’ve put more time into Skyrim and Fallout 4 each than Starfield. I wasn’t planning to buy this DLC but kept an open mind, think I’ll get back to catching butterfly’s and and shouting at dragons
If you didn’t love starfield you won’t love this. I would rather play Skyrim…in fact that’s what I’ll do right now lol I’ll meet you at the winking skeever!
That is absolutely true! They really did do that and they deserved a recognition for that! I should have put that in the video! Those were two awesome DLCs and I remember they actually sold both as a whole game without the base! Good shout bro!
I apologize if my speech is misunderstood by many. I am a Russian speaker and do not know English well). In general, the longer I play Shattered Space, the more I don't understand all the negativity around DLS and such a low rating of the expansion. I don't understand even more than I didn't understand most of the negativity towards the base game (such a tautology). The addition is very, very good. The atmosphere (the most subjective thing) went with a bang for me. Inon Zur has written quite a few new excellent ambient, full of cosmic mysticism and occultism. In combination with local design, an abundance of various kinds of obelisks of bizarre shapes and sanctuaries, the surfaces of which are streaked with various kinds of hieroglyphs. All this breathes a Lovecraftian atmosphere. Bethesda loves to make references to its universe, here I fully agree with the tastes of the studio's artists. "Ph'nglui mglv'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh vgah'nagl fhtagn")). A well-designed map and I did not experience problems with moving around the map on the Buggy (probably it is worth playing the game, probably it is worth learning and adapting to the peculiarities of transport and landscape in order to feel like a fish in water behind the wheel? A lot of new locations with a ton of interactive stories, Easter eggs, notes, audio recordings that help to understand the history of this world. Many locations are very pleasing with their elaboration and scale, yesterday probably about 1-1.5 hours I explored an underground farm (well, and its above-ground part), a bunch of notes, audio recordings, which as a result clarified the history of this location well, and some kind of quest appeared in the journal related to the characters who worked on this farm, and such a frail pack of enemies. The DLS perfectly conveys the classic mechanics of exploring the world in the spirit of Bethesda: you climb somewhere higher, look around, and see some. There is a good quest aimed at exploring the world in an extremely classic style, well, Morrowind fans should have enjoyed it (Or are many only verbal fans of Morra, because respected uncles say that this is the Magnum opus of the Arbors and their opinion should be unconditionally broadcast everywhere, and they themselves have not really touched this creation?). The Path of Redemption: you just read the book and the path described in detail in it, follow this path in search of the right shrines, along the way finding a lot of new locations and stories. And in general, the quests in DLS are very good, I have not completed everything, but what I have already seen leaves positive emotions. The same quest with a dementia grandfather and a ghost following him in a ruined orphanage, if you are not one of those who just fly forward for loot, then you will see a close connection between these quests. The beginning of the dls itself was very intriguing, but after spending 5 hours on it, I didn't really touch the main plot, leaving it for later. I haven't touched it so much that I still can't buy anything from local merchants. But no, everyone listens to their favorite bloggers and collapses the rating of the add-on to the point of absurdity, justifying themselves with a small number of weapons and armor and the lack of new parts for the ship... point-blank not noticing a lot of good quests, a variable story, a well-developed map and a bunch of new, diverse entries. Suddenly, there were not enough guns for everyone in the game... Willy-nilly, you will believe in the schizophrenic conspiracy theories that some people who went here and there express in the comments, that competitors are deliberately sinking the studio...)) Well, many people believe in a manual comparing some game that needs to be sold with Mass Effect 2. It's time to believe about the manual of the wretchedness of DLS because of the number of weapons and armor🌚 in it, and to dump on all other aspects of the add-on what kind of objective (NO) - Boring.....
I really loved Shattered Space. The style of the setting and atmosphere are very immersive. The fact that it’s quite dark and almost sinister feeling is great. I like the story too. I really enjoyed my play through
For the price of the Shattered Space DLC, you could purchase one or multiple high quality indie games depending on the price. Bethesdas pricing is a joke, Shattered Space is a $10 DLC at best lol, but probably more like $5 when compared to all these other game DLC's.
Totally agree and that’s what upset me the most! I feel so burned from it. I just picked up xenoblade chronicles 3 for $20 and it’s 120+ hours so I feel like my money was misplaced here. Also, apparently xenoblade have DLCs for $10 that are 120+ hours of content. This is the new world of DLC and Bethesda are just not in the same ball park but what’s worse is they believe they are!
Cut content, polished and repackaged to be sold as DLC is something of an insult to the intelligence of the players in my view. But that’s been the bass ackwards model Bethesda has obtusely clung to with Starfield since its inception. Instead of coming up with a great story and a compelling protagonist to play as, in a universe populated by other compelling characters, with a world that has internal logic and makes sense, Bethesda thought the, “ambition,” of giving us 1,000 planets and dealing with the technical difficulties that presents would win them a medal or something. They didn’t even achieve that goal, which is why all the loading screens. And they expect Modders to fix it all for them, whilst charging players for that privilege! And if you play on XBox you’re stuffed. And any constructive criticism is met with either flat out anger or passive aggression. Their chief story writer didn’t even KNOW that ALL stories begin with the protagonist and the characters FIRST! You build your world around them! They just came up with a sterile bunch of loading screens and badly animated, barely varying creatures to catalogue; starting on a planet which is the home base for these, “explorers,” who have not even, “explored,” let alone catalogued and recorded, all the wild animals and plants that are LITERALLY on their DOORSTEP! This game makes me so angry! It could have been great! If they’d just hired a half decent WRITER! This game is illogical, childish, patronisingly, offensively, “inoffensive,” and populated by characters who make no sense, break the internal logic of their universe with every other sentence and only get in the way of you take them anywhere! Such a wasted opportunity and an exploitative business model deserves to flop.
IMO most likely Todd surrounds the team with positive reinforcement people. There are actually people that praise Starfield as a very deep game and think that the 97% of bad reviews are people with no imagination. You place Emil around these people and he will pump and grind out masterpieces for these people. I am ok with this as to each their own but for me I will not even reinstall it to try out the DLC. The base game just angers me.
Big is NOT better, quality immersion is .! Get rid of the wokists running the agenda at Bethesda and get back to what you did best previously. No Planet to atmosphere to space content without loading screens is what players want and not the shit they continue to pat themselves on the back for . I doubt the Dark Brotherhood questline will be saturated down to an soft argument with a fairy god mother . Fallout 6 will be be about a UN mandated french crossdresser tip toeing through the rainbow tulips . Let the player friggen decide what is their moral obligations are and play how THEY want to play, instead of being railroaded by the useless woke nutjobs you've hired. Get your shit together bethesda !
Thank you very much! It’s sad to see your icon as the thumbs up fallout character because it’s a sign of Bethesdas better days. The fall from grace is hard to watch
With its flaws, Shadow of the Erdtree was one of the best experiences I’ve had in a media medium and it came out not 5 months ago. I want whatever Emil is smoking because he is not existing in this reality
I've not played the DLC yet, it's in my library but I didn't have to pay the $30 for it and it'll remain in my library untouched, I was never a fan of Va’ruun to began with, when it comes to reviews I use them to base my purchase decision on for instance a product just like when I shop for an item on Amazon, if I see a huge about of negative reviews on an item I tend to skip past them, when I do my search and see the countless negative reviews on this DLC well that speaks volumes.
Bethesda will be the next in line after Ubisoft at this rate. Looks like the gaming industry caught too many nasty illnesses over time and now needs to sweat it out, so a new era of gaming can start. It's just like with atari and E.T. I am so glad I didn't play Starfield, I had it on my wishlist for sometime but dropped it eventually after reading all the bad reviews.
Great video. Bethesda needs to be pressured into either A. Making great games again or B. Letting a more competent developer like Obsidian (Fall Out New Vegas anyone?) make some games with their IP’s. They hoard their beloved IP’s while squandering their fans trust & money on nonsense like Fallout 76 & Starfield. 2 bland, soulless, boring, crappy games. Imagine a timeline where they didn’t do that, and instead made ES6 (what their fans actually f-cking wanted) and embraced the best aspects of Fallout New Vegas into their subsequent games. The missed opportunity is staggering. We should stop giving this company money until things change, I for one have made that decision already. I’ll be over here playing Elden Ring, Baldur’s Gate 3 & Cyberpunk 2.0 & other great games and will only support Bethesda when/if they get their sh*t together
Most of us aren't asking Bethesda for a masterpiece. We just want a competent game. Bethesda has only delivered disappointment and boredom with Fallout 4, F76, and Starfield. Ok Fallout 4 was almost playable after a billion mods but still it was a mediocre Fallout game. I actually liked all Fallout 4, F76, and yes I liked Starfield... but they feel abysmal compared to my first time playing Morrowind and Skyrim. hint: bethesda it's your DEI hiring policy, they suck at their jobs
I’m gonna do a video on the DEI one day soon. I don’t know anymore. It’s just like they lost their way and keep going that way. They just don’t seem to be the same company anymore. Fallout 4 was the first game I played by Bethesda that I didn’t love. It was okay, but not what I expected. Imagine telling me back then that I would end up getting two worse games afterwards lol
@@AVVGaming1 and I guarantee all of us really wanted to like the newest games, like I even tried hard copium - but we can only pretend for so long because they really don't have the same quality as previous older titles. It's simple really, the previous Bethesda games were developed by gamers and the recent Bethesda games were developed by NPCs who think working in the gaming industry is probably gonna be so cool they can't wait to tell their friends by posting a video on tiktok. I mean just look at the inventory UI in Starfield, what a pile of garbage design, a gamer would never make such unintuitive trash.
@@RektemRectums and what makes it worse is that they do interviews saying starfield is their best game. They argue with valid criticism. They say so many bad things about their players, I’m going to save it for my next video about Emil because there is so much to cover. It’s so tough to watch though
@@AVVGaming1 I hope you'll agree with this but I believe Bethesda's Creation Engine is not the problem. I know a lot of people think it is. The evidence is how Starfield was actually playable on release. It wasn't perfect but I rarely saw any complaints about bugs, the complaints were mostly about Starfield being boring and NPCs staring problem. Another evidence is how Obsidian took Bethesda's engine and created the amazing New Vegas. The problem is Bethesda themselves, just devoid of talent. Every game engine is derived from an older one anyway.
"Money over self-respect." Nailed it. I was a Bethesda fan for quite some time. But no more. Starfield opened my eyes to the fact that Bethesda lacks the ability to make fun and engaging games. I am done with anything Bethesda.
Maybe some remember the time when Add-Ons were whole games by themselves, such as the expansions of Dawn of War, or the old Warcraft and Starcraft games. Funny to think of big companies believing they're living in a bubble where only they exist.
Very fair. I actually loved Starfield. I had zero expectations, and it blew me away. I played a few hundred hours before I was done and moved on. I was always going to return for DLC. I had really high hopes for Shattered Space. It looked like it would be scary (i love Dead Space), and when they said "hand crafted" i was imagining a fallout map full of stories and depth and grit. Certainly a whole year and 30 dollars was enough for that. The last DLC i bought for 30 dollars was the Tales of Arise expansion. It was wonderful. It was 20ish hours more of great story, exploring what happens in a world still healing after the 'hero' ends the 'big bad'. And they actually redesigned every city in the world, to show the change and new issues, when a whole culture is released from slavery, so i could see how my hero's journey changed everything. It was so good. Shattered space was... well... i guess it was more starfield. They added a major city, on par with Akhila or Atlantis or Neon or the Key. With its own similar faction questline and similar amount of side content. So i would place its "value" around 15 dollars (a bit less than a quarter of the base game). I took my time with it, exploring all the stuff outside the city. There are good little surprises and side quests. But... i dunno. I wasnt hungry for more. The writing was just really dry. It was hard to care about anyone from varuun. Its passion thats missing. Sometimes i play games that are 10-20 years old. Being dated really doesn't matter when the writing is stellar and the stakes are high and i fear for characters. Look at the old resident evil (biohazard) games, or chrono games, or final fantasy 6/7/8. They look rough theae days. But, OH, the stories they tell! Its impressive how much Emil writes. But a whole team of passionate writers are needed to offer sprawling epic stories with truly different characters.
Note - When Oblivion came out, a lot of us were disappointed that we went from the crazy but believable world of Morrowind to a generic European fantasy setting. Shivering Isles was a direct answer to 'this world is too bland.' THAT'S the difference - in 2006, Bethesda listened to player concerns, took them seriously, and gave us gorgeous DLC that mixed things up a little. Skyrim trended toward some of the simplification woes we have discussed a lot, but the Dragonborn DLC, beside giving us a new story, was a love letter to Morrowind, and gave the players a million Morrowind references and assets to love and mod. They used to work WITH us. Now they're like Blizzard, telling us if we don't like the content there's something wrong with us, not the content.
I confess: the main story and some secondary ones (the faction, for example) are very good in my opinion, even if the execution is a bit questionable. The DLC, however, in addition to everything that was said in this excellent video, provided the first two "trophies" and that's it. Even after finishing the other activities, no other ones were provided. Regrettable.
I'd also point out that, with a smaller team and smaller budget, Obsidian put out a far superior Space-based RPG than Starfield, & then followed it up with 2 very solid Expansions IMHO.
I've done a video on it! Starfield vs Outer Worlds who did it better? And the clear winner, according to the comments, is Outer Worlds. Just waiting for TOW2 now!
@@Incog-e1z what’s your studio? I’d happily do a video on any of your games for free! In fact I think getting a video from the perspective of a small studio would make for a really good video! Would you be open to discussing that?
@@Mauditduparadis hahahaha I’ve got it on the way on it’s release date. My kind of game. In fact, Japanese games recently have really been my go to! Just finished xenoblade 3 and now on ff7 rebirth. Then I’ve got this one. So many games coming out.
They think about it probably more than any other studio... Than maybe they should 'contemplating' less, and do actual work slightly more... Contemplating... good one. From what we've seen, only thing they do is... MEDITATING....
Shattered Space had the most boring premises i'd ever seen in a Bethesda game. BTW you can't even side with the evil faction, if you do you simply die without any sign, warning, or animation at all, and the game just reloads your most recent save.
Emils comments show you just how oblivious they really are. The quality of Phantom liberty makes shattered space look like an embarrassment. I wish Todd Howard would come to his senses, but it's looking like we won't get a proper modern-day AAA Quality Fallout or Elder Scrolls until he retires.
For all those people who complain about the price.... it's on you guys you should have known this ...this is not news to anyone who has been in gaming for more than a few years.. you should do your research first before you buy s***
@@rave1704 absolutely spot on! I am not so much complaining that I spent the money, and truth be told, if I didn’t have a TH-cam channel I wouldn’t have gotten it lol I wanted to do a video on it hoping I could do a “Bethesda show signs of improvements, es6 stands a chance” video, but unfortunately this was the video I made :( but I really think nowadays we can wait until after a game comes out before jumping the gun
Emil is utterly delusional.
@@Martial-Mat my least favourite person at the moment. He’s getting his own video next.
@@AVVGaming1 Darn. Good luck with that lol.
@@JUSTFORCAUSE haha I think I’ve been putting it off for six months now this video. But after this last article I feel like it’s time.
@@AVVGaming1 Good, he deserves any amount of contempt you give him.
You used exactly the same word i would use!
Emil is delusional.
Bethesda isn't king of dlcs since Blood and Wine dlc for The Witcher 3, and even less now after this debacle of shat in space, wich isn't EVEN CLOSE to a Phantom Liberty.
The scary thing is, I think they *did* make the best DLC they could, the best bethesda can do in 2024. They lost it.
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The first game I ever played was Oblivion. If it had come out last year together with Starfailed it would still be far the better game.
To be real, the sooner companies like Bethesda, Ubisoft, Square Enix, Activision, Electronic Arts, etc. collapse because of their own greed, lack of creativity, and ineptitude the better it will be for the gaming world. Sets a tone for any other developers who create trash products.
That's lowkey sad asf, but i guess it's a cycle we can't avoid
@@rookie9028sad but true. If we want great quality and fun, brand loyalty has to go.
@@kylefarris8866 don’t get me started on those companies! They will all get their own video from me one day soon. It’s definitely that though; money over art. And nowadays we get studios in Japan, Europe coming in and smashing them to pieces and picking up all the accolades and awards. But what’s worse, is that the studios you mentioned ser this, and don’t care! They’re like “sure your games are more enjoyed, but look how much money we’re making! We work 2% as hard and profit double!” It’s really the worst side of gaming
no new companions.., that's when he lost me, there are 2 new companions.., just not romanceable.
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but do believe, there is missing content (needed more juicy bits..).. buy Shattered Space is no where near as bad as many make it out to be.., and completing Shattered Space by going on foot everywhere like F4 (no jetpack flying, no vehicle), it would take a longer
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Ubisoft is in the market for acquisition as we speak unironically... but the most likely to bid is Tencent lol. So if you think they were bad before, prepare yourself for infinitely much worse. And that's not to excuse modern ubi by any means, just contextualize the future of AAA
Emil saying "no one knows DLC more than us" says a lot about the internal attitude at BGS. To me it reads "we're so far up our own ass that anything we do is gold," which, as you explained, just isn't true anymore. As creatives and producers you still need to keep up and push boundaries. It reminds me of the reaction to Baldur's Gate 3's success where other RPG makers were like WOAH guys! You can't expect us to do that! hahahaah c'mon where's the spirit in this industry
Step 1. Fire Emil and Todd
Step 2. Hire some damn writers (Chris Avellone anyone?)
Step 3. Clean up the trash on the "creations store."
Step 4. Add meaningful content (mechs, space station building)
Step 5. Free updates like no mans sky.
Step 6. Comeback story.
I like this game, but this dlc is pathetic. 6 reskined weapons, 5 hour story, and 30 plus reskined outfits.
mate, what u describe is called "creating a new dev studio" ... why even call it Bethesda afterwards? Let the zombie die, other studios are already picking up the torch.
@@HybOj It's getting rid of incompetent leadership. Not creating a "new studio. "
@@GameBoyDame I did not read the full sentence in Step 3... Step 3. Clean up the trash... I thought you mean the devs.... LOL... anyway....
@@GameBoyDame Honestly, you're better off just handing the IPs off to a studio like Obsidian.
@Axterix13 True that. The only thing is they're busy with avowed. Once that drops, they need to focus on Outer Worlds 2.
It’s no coincidence Bethesda’s games started going downhill when Emill was promoted to lead writer!!!!!
Even more so when he was promoted to Lead Game Designer
emil should have left instead of will shen!!
Must be a pretty sweet gig. Getting into positions you lack the experience and talent for, just because you’re friends with the boss man
@@boglurker2043 Yea, Just like Elon getting to audit the entire government cuz he’s friends with Trump. Sad world.
I defended FO4, I defended 76. I believed the Starfield hype. I played 20 hours and uninstalled it and won’t be buying ES6 until after reviews. Bethesda completely lost all my trust.
Similar story here. I hated Fallout 76, didn't defend it. But everything before that I loved. I have so many Bethesda games, thousands of hours sunk into them, including Fallout 4. But after 76 I was skeptical, and when Starfield came out I only managed to play for about 40 hours and then I just... couldn't stand it anymore. And I waited a year for Shattered Space to fix everything. In a year they fully transformed Fallout 4 -- it had SIX DLC in that time, some VERY good. But here with Starfield, I got 1 DLC and it didn't do ANYTHING to help resolve the base game's problems. At this point, I'm just done with Bethesda. They've lost me. They shoved me out the door and closed it, and I'm not looking for a way back in. I'll stay gone until a review says one of their games is the best thing ever, nearly flawless. Only then will I come back, because they've burned bridges with me too much.
You deserve what you get for defending fo76. Embarrassing. You couldn't torture that information out of me
Bethesda is very good at dividing their fanbase with each release lol
Have you seen under the veil.
Fallout 4 was objectively good.
Fallout 76 was objectively bad. But it still had some good parts ... like something a developer would sneak in when the boss wasn't looking over their shoulder.
But Starfield was just bad. And THIS, is INSULTINGLY bad!
Looks like they cut it from the base game to use as a DLC. Allusion is made throughout the base game, you even have Andreja who is Va'runn but there's no faction of them in the base game, it's very odd.
That’s how it felt. It felt and set up just like a faction quest line. Maybe they added more side quests or pois but I feel like this content was meant to be in the main game but got cut. There’s no proof and it’s just a hunch. It doesn’t feel like a full expansion. It’s like an add on.
Right. Like in CP277 when they cut Dogtown out to use as DLC. Also like Phantom Liberty, this DLC can be completed in add little as 5 hours. And also has 11 side quests. Both are trash. /s
@@wookieepeltexcept phantom liberty was of much finer quality all around, and released several major updates that overhauled game mechanics prior to the DLC.
@@wookieepelt Nope, you are wrong. Phantom Liberty can be completed in about 5 minutes or if you play the whole storyline should take about 30 hours before you do the side quests.
P.S. Don’t apologise for being right. You nailed Bethesda’s obvious, unambiguous, cynicism. And I just don’t believe this Emil guy’s staggering tone deafness. His horse armour remark was the equivalent of Hannibal Lecter telling us he respects the sanctity of human life! They’re gaslighting us because they’re reaching early retirement age and they wanted a cash cow to pump money into their retirement funds. Hasn’t Todd already hinted that he doesn’t have another game in him after this upcoming Elder Scrolls?
Thanks for the feedback and a few people have mentioned the apologising thing so it’s honestly vital feedback for me to learn and grow from. I think as I make more videos I will stick to my guns more. But gaslighting is such a great term! I’m doing a video on Emil next because he’s said so many things recently that are so absurd it’s painful. He just said, a day ago, thst starfield is their greatest game. The nerve’
In a post Blood and Wine world, this crap isn't good enough anymore.
Exactly my sentiments. We’ve moved on now. I’d say Bethesda having moved with us but I honestly truly believe they’ve gone backwards now.
Never mind Blood and Wine. This falls short of Far Harbor!
It's not even as good as other Bethesda DLCs. Even Dragonborn and Nuka World run circles around this. BOTH had new companions and weapons by the way.
The "DLCs" you describe are really just what was traditionally called an "expansion". BG 2's Shadows of Amn, "Tiny Tina's Assault on Dragon Keep" for Borderlands 2, all the expansions for various MMOs, and so on... The smaller bits were referred to as micro-transactions, even if they were barely ever priced at an actual micro level. Stuff like the Warden's Keep in DA:O, Fire in the Sky for ME2, and so on. But yeah, Shattered Space falls more into the "micro-transaction" area of DLC than an expansion, but is priced at expansion levels.
But honestly, I look at how people reacted to Starfield, and then at Bethesda's reaction to that reaction. I look at how lackluster the patches were, despite the glaring problems in Starfield. I look at how they once again try to monetize mods. It was obvious Shattered Space was going to be bad. Mind you, I think Bethesda really needed it to be good, for the sake of ES6 hype, but, well, the company is incapable of putting in the time and effort required to salvage their faltering reputation.
Nah. Shattered space is an expansion, but it is a mini-expansion. Usually micro things are just cosmetics, equipment, etc.
When a developer makes something this stupid, and expects you to buy it, what they are really doing is that they are saying they think YOU are stupid.
And if you buy it ... they are correct!
Exactly! And I’ve had people defend it! If you defend this, you lower standards and basically let them get away with it. You have to hold people accountable! You can’t just let them put this out for $30 and take advantage because in my opinion that’s what they’re doing.
Man, I've gotta ask some Bethesda stans next time if they agree with Bethesda's opinion that they're stupid.
One thing is for sure I am very very worried for elder scrolls 6.
Me too…honestly especially after all this interviews. I worry what it’ll end up as. I’ve always believed that the Bethesda who made everything before Skyrim was still in there somewhere. Maybe they are, but right now I’m losing the faith. It’s like they disappeared and this is some evil corporation who are wearing a mask. You can’t even compare this dlc with previous dlc. I honestly am lost for words now lol
I‘m not worried for TES6. (Anymore)
I‘m relatively sure that it will suck and now they have to surprise me positively to convince me otherwise.
The last 13years they produced slop in my opinion. Even fallout4 was very controversial to me. (Dialogue system & building mechanic)
It’s really mindblowing that they created Morrowind, oblivion and Skyrim all within 9years.
Now one game takes them 5 to 8years but it still has only a fifth of the content and quality previous games had.
@@AVVGaming1 Well they indeed disapeared, because the last proper game they made was Skyrim and thats 15 years. Thats enough time for a core ppl to fluctuate elswhere. They are gone, some of em retired, as they made games for decades already. Beth totally blew it, they just milked Skyrim dead and forgot how to make games. Because to make good games, you need to do that continually, or the ppl and skill just vanishes. And thats what happened and now, when they are back to making games, we see the results of this hiatus. The studio is gone.
@@K.R.98 fallout 4 was okay but didn’t click the same with me as their previous games. But there was enough there to see they still made okay games. The dialogue was disappointing, in fact I did a whole video “how fallout 4 divides fans” where I explained all the things I felt it lacked. I cannot believe this studio has let things decline so much. It’s so drastic and it’s like 76, starfield, these are surely not the same people who made Morrowind, Skyrim, fallout 4. It’s just so sad to see and the worst thing is they don’t even see it. They think, and I quote email “starfield is their best game”. This whole thing is going to be my next video for sure.
@@AVVGaming1 I think the reason why they don't see how much they have fallen is because they believe their own hype. It's pretty clear in how they talk about themself that they still believe everybody loves them, it's still 2011 in their mind and they are still soaring high on skyrim, and they haven't made some really bad choices with Fallout 4/76 and starfield.
What I hate most about Starfield is the inconsinstency of realism. They made most of the planets empty due to realism. But then they didnt even bother to put realistic biomes on them. I cant count how often I have landed on a planet or moon with no atmosphere and water just to find plants and wildlife there after Vasco told me there is no life on this planet. As a big astronomy nerd this p*sses me off so much, lol.
Yeah, planets are ''empty'' and unexplored, but they are full of abandoned buildings.
@@Kintabl Yeah, right. Im send to a planet to survey it to find out if its inhabitable. And when I land there, there are fauna and flora and human outposts everywhere on it. So wtf is the point of surveying this planet? Clearly there have been humans there multiple times. Just do some research on the internet (or whatever the Starfield equivalent of the internet is) and Im sure there are all the informations you need. No point in sending people out there on stupid survey missions.
Also, those buildings will start repeating with the same enemies the longer you play. Copy paste.
Whats even worse tho are the lackluster fauna and flora on planets. There are multiple different biomes on a planet. But every biome has the same frickin animals. Savanna, swamp, snowy tundra, all inhabited by the same species. Realism and immersion my ass.
@@Kintablsame 3 models of abandonned building
I prefer NMS because it embraces its own weird unreality and even makes it a plot point that the galaxy is an imperfect simulation. Starfield uses "realism" as a crutch to support its lack of vision.
no new weapons in an expansion is insane
When i tough it couldn't be worse! Remember they didn't make the new elders scrolls because this game and it took 9 yeara to do it and skyrim has more players currently than the fresh dlc
@@IsraelSocial exactly! I saw those stats today! How can they not be ashamed?! How can they let that be? I’d do everything I could get this back! But they just don’t seem to care. Their downfall will have to be studied because I’ve never seen something this drastic in a long time!
The expansion that just came out for Rogue Trader is fantastic. Great story, fabulous new companion. Plenty of new enemies, areas, gear, weapons, ship systems etc etc. And the lore additions to 40k are incredibly fascinating
Every single word you've said, sir, is TRUTH. About Bethesda's current approach to "create mystic image of their studio as Masters of DLC", to community, to technology and learning, and, of course truth about this Emil, who is either takes some skooma or just lost almost all his knowledge an dignity to at least be respectful to people, community (or just shut his damn mouth) after what pile of space dump they've released by the name of Starfield
Thank you! I’m doing a video on Emil next! It’s going to be a great video because he’s said so much stupid stuff that I can generally made a funny video easily
@@AVVGaming1 we all are waiting for this video!
@@8888UNIVERSE8888 I’ll make it good!
I think they bit off way more than they could chew and didn't realize it until it was too late. Then they had to delay release for a year to try and get the game into a playable state. Then they had to spend another year releasing patches and bugfixes. By now Microsoft wants some return on investment so it's DLC time, only they haven't got anything ready so they grab some cut content from the main story and slap a $30 price tag on it. Welcome to the new Micro-Thesda.
they should have realized it when the Creation Engine couldn't handle flying to a planet directly and needs multiple loading screens so it won't explode 😂
Man they could not even bother to add a new companion and Andreja barely has anything to say lol
Yes, I didn't even mention that. It was a surreal experience. If there was one thing I expected it was that she would be involved somehow!
As people have said, this is likely just cut content. More shovelware from a studio with provably failed leadership.
BTW, MattyPlays is literally the ruined hole serving as the BGS kum-dumpster. How sad he hung his future on a studio that anyone who is aware of the good games could see was failing...
2:08 is case and point of what I’ve been saying every other chance I get. Is that current BGS is the product of years of believing their own hype.
Ding ding ding, ever since they were told Skyrim was the pinnacle of gaming they rejoiced made billions and gave you the mediocre you all so loved in Skyrim.
You've reached the point I was 5 years ago, where many gamers reached years before us. This wasn't a race, never was a destination, rather a process. Developing and justifying standards. This has become labeled "negative" or "toxic" and its progenitors "haters" but no one hates without love. The absence of love is apathy. Standards are harmful to ambiguousness, hurtful to people stricken with lassitude, but no process of positive change feels good. Good is the destination!
Bethesda has just turned into another EA, Ubisoft, and Activision.
9:04 lol they didn’t miss anything its by design, thye thought they could get away with it, and they have gotten away with it for years
9:43 Welcome to modern BethesdaGS, takes more time, more money and eventually worse product. How can anyone be expecting anything from TES6 now ? All the best developers left Bethesda, even their last TES lorehead Kuhlmann. BGS is a shadow of its former glories yet it still living off Skyrim success.
Makes you wonder if they really have 250-400 people working there like they say.
@@abrahambobst4602 They do have 400+ working there, just so incredibly mismanaged amount of people that productivity is almost nonexistent.
@@Vert_GreenHeart I wonder if they have the same bloat problem as Obislop with several DEI departments?
@@abrahambobst4602 For sure they are drunk on a Toxic Positivity culture, if nothing else.
For too long, Bethesda has been based on the work of screenwriters and just talented people who developed arena, daggerfall, morrowind, fallout 1, 2, and New Vegas. She managed to do this for an amazingly long time, apparently thanks to rare releases of games, but apparently, having lost many talented developers, they realized that the inertia of past greatness was evaporating, decided to make a new franchise, and only sat in a puddle.
Paying 10 bucks for nexus premium for wabbajack was a better value lmao
I still play modded Oblivion and FNV 😂😂😂.
I think one solution could be is that we need to let go of the idea that games need to look photorealistic. I can imagine it takes away a lot of the budget and it really doesn't add much to the experience.
I’ve never been a graphic obsessive. I much prefer the gameplay over everything. Like fallout new vegas ain’t the prettiest game, but the game is fantastic! Does starfield have better graphics? Yes, but it’s nowhere near as good. Gameplay has to come first and foremost!
I am disappointed with the writng and quests in Starfield and Shatter Space compared to their previous games. No more money from me unless they hire good story tellers.
This review is way too nice. Shatturd Space is shockingly bad.
They're drunk on their own piss.
5:49
CDPR is basically that "3rd employee in the skyscraper meeting meme that says the last, and personally wrong thing to the boss and is thrown out of the window" meme.
The boss is every major company's boss after Witcher 3 DLC/Whole Freaking Game came out.
It honestly changed the DLC world! Since then, expectations are much higher!
expansion packs used to be a pretty common concept, I remember being hype for AoE2's Conquerors expansion. We got lulled into DLC and small changes for a while, thanks horse armour, then CDPR introduced a new generation to expansion packs, which can now be downloaded. Audiences now expect expansions, but Bethesda's still hooked on DLC.
I think you made some very fair and well deserved criticisms of the game. Alot of people share the same views and concerns about Bethesda's poor and lacklustre releases after Skyrim.
It’s so tough to see and almost unexplainable! After all the great games they made, suddenly the do everything differently, the fans don’t like it and then they get mad at fans. I don’t understand it. They made great games but by the way they speak you’d think they’d never made those games.
@@AVVGaming1 the sell to Microsoft also came with a huge change in management and their development team. The writing was on the wall for them after the lazy release of Fallout 4 and even worse Fallout 76. I see Elder scroll 5 being a Cyberpunk lvl flop in terms of quality and disappointment
@@iMmunashe One of the problems is, everything has to be photorealistic nowadays, which probably eats a lot of the budget away. Combine it with the rise in overhead costs and the price of the game still the same as 20 years ago and you end up with something like starfield. I personally really don't care about photorealism. Skyrim's graphics are more than fine to me. Problem is, it doesn't look as appealing for a trailer, when you compare it to other titles.
It’s crazy to me, that those 12,000 or so fans are the only people they are making these games for. They could care less about the rest of us.
I know and Emil just said starfield is the best game they’ve ever made! What is wrong with that man? lol
Totally agree with you.
spot on
Thank you!
My feed has quite a few reviews of this 'dlc' and none of them are positive. I wouldn't have bought in at 30$ anyway, but now that I've seen a few of these reviews I won't be buying in at any price. Even if it was free, the reviews are enough for me to not bother installing Starfield again to try it. 30$ in my pocket and many GB of extra space on my HDD.
Bethesda ain't even trying to get this fan back -they just keep pushing me and my wallet away. Off to play Timberborn, I got a damn to build.
Great video as always!
My hot take is Bethesda is no longer the Bethesda we once knew and loved. They have been taken over by Xbox and are now all about the money. None of their projects have any passion to them and it seems as though they’ve lost what made them great in the first place which is truly devastating. I’m really worried about Elder Scrolls 6 now and will most likely wait for reviews before picking it up IF we ever get it.
Also, shout out to Metaphor Refantazio! Absolutely LOVING this prologue and can’t wait for its release on Thursday! Atlus always deliver in terms of content 🥰
They are no longer BGS of a decade and half ago due to the talent that made them great leaving or getting pushed out because they were too compentent or talented compared to Emil and Todd.
@@abrahambobst4602 💯💅
It's ironically almost certainly not Xbox's fault; I work at a MS owned studio, and if anything, the fault is a too hands-off approach from MS.
It's frustrating to me; I am in the business and DO know exactly what it would take to make meaningful improvements and don't understand how they haven't. Literally even one designer, one modeler, not even an engineer for a year should have been able to more meaningfully improve the game since launch than it has with Shattered Sky, 500 developers, in that same year.
I take no pleasure in saying this; Bethesda has been one of my favorite studios. I have almost 1800 hours in Fallout 4 alone, let alone Skyrim, let alone close to 500 hours in Starfield. I want to like Starfield; I really, really do. But it's so tough to see very simple, very cheap improvements that would drastically improve the game just not prioritized.
A hot take would be to say "Bethesda is back baby" 😀And of course it might be the same company name, but I would assume most people who worked on Skyrim, Oblivion or Morrowind are gone. I doubt that in this day and age there are a lot of people who work in the same place for 14-20 years. We live in an age of changing your job ever couple of years.
Wrong Bethesda was greedy fat before Xbox bought them . What corrupted them was the massive amount of money they made in Skyrim for the bare minimum work they did to make that game
The other side of the DLC coin, of course, is Larian. Despite BG3 fans effectively BEGGING for an Expansion to the game....an expansion which would have been the equivalent to printing money for the studio had they gone ahead with it.....yet they chose not to go ahead because "their hearts weren't in it". Instead they chose to focus all their efforts on releasing 7 extremely content-rich patches over the last 12 months.
Studios like Larian, Warhorse Studios, even small studios with indie developers are now setting the example. AAA studios like Ubisoft, Bethesda etc have shifted the focus to "milk the fans for money" and if they happen to make a game as well that's a bonus lol
As always an interesting and informative take. Love the channel. I actually just finished the main quest, did loads of side quests. I think about 23 hours for me. It was a nasty start,all the floting zero g stuff is not my cup of tea and the first few side quests were uninspiring: a weird duel between brothers and an unending fetch quest for scientists. However the quality improved a lot as i persisted. I really loved having everything on one planet, i wish this was the approach from the start. I enjoyed coming across a random cool side quest like Tomb of Fang ( or something like that). Theres also a really touching one about a man with dementia and an orphanage that was really moving. Mostly enjoyed the main quests after the bumpy start. I wasnt expecting phantom liberty, just more Starfield. Ive grown to enjoy the game but appreciate that many havent and respect where theyre coming from
Shitered Space x Phantom Liberty, anyone...?
I was bored throughout Shat Space. And I immersed, draw in to Phantom Liberty. I agonized over the choices in the game, and still think about it to this day.
Serioulsy Todd, you guys could not even be bothered to make 1 new interior cave layout ?? not even 1 new unic legendary spacesuit as a reward ???
My favorite part is how you pointed out that Bethesda used to not only make better add-ons for their past games, but also made *more* of it with a smaller staff within a similar time frame.
I recently noticed that myself, and I was shocked at how little content Starfield really has a year after release in comparison. Most of their past games had most or all of their major DLC add-ons released within a year after the base game's release, but what does Starfield have? A lackluster "expansion" which feels like cut content and a bunch of smaller paid "Creations" that also suffer from obscene pricing for what they are? What an absolutely depressing fall from grace.
That's what hurts the most! How has it come to this? Smaller expansions, that cost WAY more money, that take MUCH LONGER to make and lack any enthusiasm. I can't really explain it, but I feel like there's not heart in it. Like, Hearthfire was added for the fans, to help add more depth to the game, for $5 and it felt like something nice to add and improve the game. Something they did for the love of it. This honestly feels like a sterile add-on. Honestly, I am so upset because I just expect better. They don't need to be as good as they were, but its the lack of effort that hurts. And the fact they say "oh we're great!" upsets me even more.
13:23 ...welp, I tried to see what point you were trying to make when it came to your own opinions, and it's just a stretched-out version of saying, Shattered Space should've been $15, and then more hiding behind other people's opinions. Wanted to finish the video, but I couldn't be bothered...
@@InconsequentialGaming pretty much! I’m sorry you didn’t enjoy the videos but I do thank you for the time you did watch them. I have a lot to learn but thank you for the feedback and critique.
It's great that you are finally coming around! Been telling everyone forever that Bethesda was a shovelware company and now it became so obvious that it can't be denied. Now the only thing that's left to acknowledge that it was never good to begin with, it's just that back in the day open world games weren't so common.
@@BIGESTblade when you’re saying is correct about them now. I do feel like Bethesda deserve their flowers for their past work. Open world games weren’t as common and they were able to break that. Some of their entries really paved the way for the games we have nowadays so I will always appreciate what they’ve done. However, the way they’ve been recently is really bad. To me, it’s not about the games being bad. It happens right? It’s the attitude! The arrogance. The push towards making more money over making a good game. If they release es6 and it comes out like starfield, it will be one of the biggest mysteries of all down regarding a fall off. I mean Kanye west is the same. Used to be the no 1 artist at one point releasing album after album. Now he can’t make 1 decent song. It’s crazy how some come in, offer so much, then just run out and completely forgot what and who they were. It’s so surreal to see.
@@AVVGaming1 Sure, they paved the way alright. So, you like what they've paved the way to? You've been enjoying all the DLC nickel and diming, all of the copy-paste open world checklist games and broken on release with day 1 patch games? I sure as hell don't, I remember what it was like before Skyrim.
The worst thing by far is that because of Bethesda roleplaying games stopped being about writing and story. Even Obsidian is making a Skyrim clone. Obsidian, for crying out loud! The studio that made Knights of the Old Republic 2, the greatest-written and most profound game of all time.
Everyone loves complaining about how bad Emil is at his job, but I really struggle to understand why would people that like anything that Bethesda made would take an issue with his writing. They wouldn't be playing Bethesda's slop if they had anything to compare it to.
@@BIGESTblade fair points and I also feel Ubisoft had a similar impact on the open world genre too! With their literal checklists, fetch quests etc. I guess maybe we had lower expectations before? And now others have come in and beat them out? Idk. I’ll doing a morrowind playthrough now (first time) and that will answer the questions I think
@@AVVGaming1 Yes, expectation were lower simply because the RPG genre was very niche. It was dominated by Bioware and pretty much no one else. Most people only discovered what a roleplaying game is after Bethesda sufficiently dumbed it down, I imagine the graphics also helped though.
These days, thankfully, Larian Studios singlehandedly proved that for the past 15 years we were going the wrong way and there's a hope that from now on someone's gonna start making them like roleplaying games were always supposed to be made.
@@AVVGaming1don't you dare feel pity on Bethesda, the writing was on the wall since F4, they were a massive studio and has Microsoft backing now.
There's absolutely no excuse fo this shat on space DLC.
Todd and Bethesda don't deserve pity!
Ngl fromsoft is the only studio i can trust when it comes to cook awesome dlc's
And maybe cd projects or whatever the red bird's called
CD Project Red 🤣 haha you were so close though! 🥹
@@valenlevalenle6394 oh ok ty
Phantom Liberty and the two expansions for Witcher 3 are fantastic.
You weren't too harsh. On the contrary...
Haha thank you! It honestly upset me a lot! I’m relatively new at TH-cam so I’m still finding my way. I honestly am like a kid thst believes in Santa but suspects is pretend. I want to believe Bethesda are still there. I want to think the company who made Skyrim etc are still in there somewhere but maybe those days are past..
It is on GamePass and I haven’t even downloaded it. Starfield was amazingly disappointing.
The mods like Matilija Aerospace are what keep me interested in the ship building. Nothing outside my ship is worth my time if it doesn't involve crew for my ship.
Bethesda didn't even try. Cut content from the base game added as a dlc they had to come out with because they'd already taken money for it. That's exactly what it is. That's exactly what it feels like. I'm done giving Bethesda the benefit of the doubt. It's a sinking ship without anyone skilled enough to pick up a bucket.
I won’t be buying GTA 6 either and after this generation of gaming ends, I’m done with gaming. (Done buying of course because I’m happy with what I already got)
Why aren’t you buying GTA 6 though? 😢
@@valenlevalenle6394Look at the market trends.
@@PowerfulRift I’d say to play the game of waiting. You know the “good things comes to those who wait?” It’s so applicable in gaming! Like if you buy a game on day 1, it’s full price, the reviews might end up being bad, etc. but if you wait, you can check the reviews make sure it’s solid and then save money too! I refuse to pre order anything just because I don’t want to take that risk. It’s unnecessary for sure!
You don’t have to be done with gaming. There are so many great games that come out per year. I understand being mad at triple A games for being underwhelming. Very few triple A games live up to expectations. I think it limits your scope in what you can experience, burning you out. In the mean time, you need to look at indie games or non triple A games to find consistent experiences. It’s good to get outside your comfort zone and try different types of games.
@@ryanloveless3870 spot on! AAA games developed in the USA are going through a tough spot valuing money and profit over the actual quality of the game. The games made in Europe, Japan etc and indie games are making unbelievable games and that’s where I find my enjoyment now. I played shattered space and the xenoblade 3 afterwards and it immediately made up for it.
It is vital that Bethesda does not listen to criticisms of their games. People who claimed that they were Fallout 4 gamers but were not persuaded Bethesda to create an online fallout game. They then did not buy Fallout 76 and criticised it even more than they had criticised Fallout 4. This wasted 4 years of development time. If Bethesda had not listened to their critics then we would now be playing TES 6 and Fallout 5.
I like the procedurally generated quests in Starfield because they ensure that I will have new quests to try until Fallout 5 appears in 2032. I am pretty sure that TES 6 will have 100% handcrafted quests but think that given the fact that the starfield universe is huge, procedurally generated planets were unavoidable.
Between Fallout 4, Fallout 76 and Starfield, you'd have to be crazy to be looking forward to Elder Scrolls VI!!!
Bethesda games were fantastic games as a teenager, but everything in them is just so antiquated now, quests, characters, the world, and its story are so boring as an adult, there's so much better games out there with deeper more meaningful things to tell
I've been noticing a trend... it's particularly noticeable in the recent reviews of Shattered Space... of people trying to apologize for "negativity" when providing their honest opinions in the hopes of avoiding the dreaded label of "toxic."
It's not "toxic" to be honest. If something is bad, it's toxic to only talk about the good parts and minimize the negative parts. It would be equally as toxic to lie or exaggerate how bad something is when it's really not that big of a problem. DISHONESTY is what's toxic, not negativity.
Be negative, if that's what a game deserves. Tear into it... and do it _honestly._ Don't tell me Starfield "didn't click" with people or that Shattered Space "didn't connect with" its audience. Neither of those statements are honest. It's not that the audience didn't "vibe" with the game or the DLC. That is a false framing that blames the customers for the product being mediocre. It's toxic marketing-speak, and I'm sick of hearing it. Call something what it is and either blame or praise the producers accordingly. Nothing will ever improve if we're mired in toxic positivity.
Thanks for the feedback! I am a relatively new youtuber and I didn't do the apologies purposely but a few people highlighted it in this video. On reflection, I noticed I have done is quite a lot....so this feedback is going to help me going forward. I have to stick to my guns, not worry about upsetting anyone, and just give my honest opinion unapologetically. You're right with what you're saying in that if you forgive mistakes, or are not truthful about something being unacceptable, the company will keep taking advantage of it.
Here are some other games I've enjoyed since Starfield is a bust and Emil is out of his mind.
Remnant From The Ashes and Remnant 2 - both really great games to play around with lots if build options.
Conan Exiles. The name put me off, it's so weird that they picked that but the game is great. Build almost anywhere, get gear to make your character stronger. I played solo only and had a great time with it.
Division 2. Every time I go back after playing other games I'm like "dang, this is a good game." Lots of build possibilities and if you haven't played it yet there is a ton to explore.
Conan Exiles has no right to be as good as it actually is.
Automatron: New companions, New enemy factions, new Mechanics (Pun not intended) make your own robots, I read Emil say that Shattered pants is qoute on qoute "akin to Far Harbour" well, I think that DLC is substantial and in my opinion their highest quality output in the past several years and this is nowhere near that level it's not even close to Automatron.
I have a video on him coming out tomorrow. The man has made my life so easy but the amount of rubbish he’s been spouting recently lol
Bold of you to assume Bethesda cares. They haven't for years. Look at any of their recent releases, look at Fallout 76, look at their stance towards criticism; they ignore it. Look at how they treat Fallout fans, Todd is fine with Fallout fans not receiving another game for twenty years. What amazes me, is that Microsoft, or Phil Spencer is seemingly happy letting these utterly incompetent people sit on two highly valuable properties, in Fallout and Elder Scrolls. Properties that Microsoft paid for to own, to profit from. But they're not. Not like they could.
I have always argued to anyone who is not a gamer that this hobby, apart from the high upfront cost, is one of the best cost to time hobbies on earth. How did they make content that is more expensive than just watching a movie in the theater.
The difference is Hearthfire etc was actual EXTRA content for Skyrim.. while this "DLC" was *clearly* meant to be regular/base game content for Loadingfield that developers carved out to sell back to the players for another $30. Shameful!
Bethesda is stuck in the past and too set in their ways.
Shattered space made me give Starfield another chance after being disappointed with it last year.
But I modded it with the great StarWars Genesis modlist and I feel thats what Starfield always wanted to be :)
Plays great, still engine and design limitations like 900 needless planets and a cluttered galaxy map and lots of loading screens remain.
We need a mod that removes every generated planet and only keeps the ones with handcrafted content that are accessable in a neat list/ overview :)
Great video AVV!
Thank you so much! That honestly means so much! I hope to keep improving through feedback in the comments!
Starfield has a skeleton crew, guaranteed. All hands are on deck for ES:6, which doesnt matter. Since they're so out-of-touch, it's probably going to be the lamest one out of the series.
Idk man, Todd’s baby (he’s been itching to make a space game for awhile) has a skeleton crew? I honestly doubt they’re even working on ES6, like i wouldnt be surprised
Is there anyway to see when the voice acting for Shattered Space was completed? It honestly felt like it was something that got cut from the base game rather than something new like most DLCs. And I just heard you say that I'm not alone in that feeling.
Phantom Liberty and the 2.0 update genuinely transformed Cyberpunk from a game I enjoyed into one of my favourite games of all time. Shadow of the Erdtree is basically a sequel disguised as a DLC. This is just embarrassing on every level.
Cyberpunk 2077 I have done many videos on. It was such an honest attempt to right their wrongs after the launch. I know a lot of people are mad at CDPR because of the whole Sweet Baby thing, but they have done nothing but show good faith in my opinion. They clearly care about their fans and give 110% to make things right. Cyberpunk 2077 is a fantastic game!
I’ve put more time into Skyrim and Fallout 4 each than Starfield. I wasn’t planning to buy this DLC but kept an open mind, think I’ll get back to catching butterfly’s and and shouting at dragons
If you didn’t love starfield you won’t love this. I would rather play Skyrim…in fact that’s what I’ll do right now lol I’ll meet you at the winking skeever!
It was actually Rockstar that started that not CDPR. Ballad of Gay Tony and Lost and the Damned were essentially TWO entire games for GTA IV
That is absolutely true! They really did do that and they deserved a recognition for that! I should have put that in the video! Those were two awesome DLCs and I remember they actually sold both as a whole game without the base! Good shout bro!
I apologize if my speech is misunderstood by many. I am a Russian speaker and do not know English well).
In general, the longer I play Shattered Space, the more I don't understand all the negativity around DLS and such a low rating of the expansion. I don't understand even more than I didn't understand most of the negativity towards the base game (such a tautology).
The addition is very, very good.
The atmosphere (the most subjective thing) went with a bang for me. Inon Zur has written quite a few new excellent ambient, full of cosmic mysticism and occultism. In combination with local design, an abundance of various kinds of obelisks of bizarre shapes and sanctuaries, the surfaces of which are streaked with various kinds of hieroglyphs. All this breathes a Lovecraftian atmosphere. Bethesda loves to make references to its universe, here I fully agree with the tastes of the studio's artists. "Ph'nglui mglv'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh vgah'nagl fhtagn")).
A well-designed map and I did not experience problems with moving around the map on the Buggy (probably it is worth playing the game, probably it is worth learning and adapting to the peculiarities of transport and landscape in order to feel like a fish in water behind the wheel? A lot of new locations with a ton of interactive stories, Easter eggs, notes, audio recordings that help to understand the history of this world. Many locations are very pleasing with their elaboration and scale, yesterday probably about 1-1.5 hours I explored an underground farm (well, and its above-ground part), a bunch of notes, audio recordings, which as a result clarified the history of this location well, and some kind of quest appeared in the journal related to the characters who worked on this farm, and such a frail pack of enemies. The DLS perfectly conveys the classic mechanics of exploring the world in the spirit of Bethesda: you climb somewhere higher, look around, and see some.
There is a good quest aimed at exploring the world in an extremely classic style, well, Morrowind fans should have enjoyed it (Or are many only verbal fans of Morra, because respected uncles say that this is the Magnum opus of the Arbors and their opinion should be unconditionally broadcast everywhere, and they themselves have not really touched this creation?). The Path of Redemption: you just read the book and the path described in detail in it, follow this path in search of the right shrines, along the way finding a lot of new locations and stories. And in general, the quests in DLS are very good, I have not completed everything, but what I have already seen leaves positive emotions. The same quest with a dementia grandfather and a ghost following him in a ruined orphanage, if you are not one of those who just fly forward for loot, then you will see a close connection between these quests. The beginning of the dls itself was very intriguing, but after spending 5 hours on it, I didn't really touch the main plot, leaving it for later. I haven't touched it so much that I still can't buy anything from local merchants.
But no, everyone listens to their favorite bloggers and collapses the rating of the add-on to the point of absurdity, justifying themselves with a small number of weapons and armor and the lack of new parts for the ship... point-blank not noticing a lot of good quests, a variable story, a well-developed map and a bunch of new, diverse entries.
Suddenly, there were not enough guns for everyone in the game... Willy-nilly, you will believe in the schizophrenic conspiracy theories that some people who went here and there express in the comments, that competitors are deliberately sinking the studio...)) Well, many people believe in a manual comparing some game that needs to be sold with Mass Effect 2. It's time to believe about the manual of the wretchedness of DLS because of the number of weapons and armor🌚 in it, and to dump on all other aspects of the add-on what kind of objective (NO) - Boring.....
Bethesda can't win at this point. They have disappointed many people, and many youtubers get million of views just thrashing them.
I really loved Shattered Space. The style of the setting and atmosphere are very immersive. The fact that it’s quite dark and almost sinister feeling is great. I like the story too. I really enjoyed my play through
😂😂😂 Bethesda fan boys will never seize to amaze me . Todd will shii in their hands and they will clap for him.
For the price of the Shattered Space DLC, you could purchase one or multiple high quality indie games depending on the price.
Bethesdas pricing is a joke, Shattered Space is a $10 DLC at best lol, but probably more like $5 when compared to all these other game DLC's.
Totally agree and that’s what upset me the most! I feel so burned from it. I just picked up xenoblade chronicles 3 for $20 and it’s 120+ hours so I feel like my money was misplaced here. Also, apparently xenoblade have DLCs for $10 that are 120+ hours of content. This is the new world of DLC and Bethesda are just not in the same ball park but what’s worse is they believe they are!
18 years after Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion, they have launched a new hit: Bethesda 2024: Oblivious ...
Cut content, polished and repackaged to be sold as DLC is something of an insult to the intelligence of the players in my view. But that’s been the bass ackwards model Bethesda has obtusely clung to with Starfield since its inception.
Instead of coming up with a great story and a compelling protagonist to play as, in a universe populated by other compelling characters, with a world that has internal logic and makes sense, Bethesda thought the, “ambition,” of giving us 1,000 planets and dealing with the technical difficulties that presents would win them a medal or something.
They didn’t even achieve that goal, which is why all the loading screens. And they expect Modders to fix it all for them, whilst charging players for that privilege! And if you play on XBox you’re stuffed.
And any constructive criticism is met with either flat out anger or passive aggression. Their chief story writer didn’t even KNOW that ALL stories begin with the protagonist and the characters FIRST! You build your world around them! They just came up with a sterile bunch of loading screens and badly animated, barely varying creatures to catalogue; starting on a planet which is the home base for these, “explorers,” who have not even, “explored,” let alone catalogued and recorded, all the wild animals and plants that are LITERALLY on their DOORSTEP!
This game makes me so angry! It could have been great! If they’d just hired a half decent WRITER! This game is illogical, childish, patronisingly, offensively, “inoffensive,” and populated by characters who make no sense, break the internal logic of their universe with every other sentence and only get in the way of you take them anywhere!
Such a wasted opportunity and an exploitative business model deserves to flop.
IMO most likely Todd surrounds the team with positive reinforcement people. There are actually people that praise Starfield as a very deep game and think that the 97% of bad reviews are people with no imagination. You place Emil around these people and he will pump and grind out masterpieces for these people. I am ok with this as to each their own but for me I will not even reinstall it to try out the DLC. The base game just angers me.
Big is NOT better, quality immersion is .!
Get rid of the wokists running the agenda at Bethesda and get back to what you did best previously.
No Planet to atmosphere to space content without loading screens is what players want and not the shit they continue to pat
themselves on the back for .
I doubt the Dark Brotherhood questline will be saturated down to an soft argument with a fairy god mother .
Fallout 6 will be be about a UN mandated french crossdresser tip toeing through the rainbow tulips .
Let the player friggen decide what is their moral obligations are and play how THEY want to play, instead of being railroaded by the useless woke nutjobs you've hired.
Get your shit together bethesda !
I’ve responded to your other comment but bottom line is I totally agree!
Well crafted vid… totally agree 👍🏻
Thank you very much! It’s sad to see your icon as the thumbs up fallout character because it’s a sign of Bethesdas better days. The fall from grace is hard to watch
Emil is literally in a mindset of "we can do no wrong".
Yup! He’s done approximately 8 separate interviews new and he’s living in cuckoo land lol
With its flaws, Shadow of the Erdtree was one of the best experiences I’ve had in a media medium and it came out not 5 months ago. I want whatever Emil is smoking because he is not existing in this reality
I am doing a video on him Sunday! He honestly deserves his own video lol
I've not played the DLC yet, it's in my library but I didn't have to pay the $30 for it and it'll remain in my library untouched, I was never a fan of Va’ruun to began with, when it comes to reviews I use them to base my purchase decision on for instance a product just like when I shop for an item on Amazon, if I see a huge about of negative reviews on an item I tend to skip past them, when I do my search and see the countless negative reviews on this DLC well that speaks volumes.
Bethesda will be the next in line after Ubisoft at this rate. Looks like the gaming industry caught too many nasty illnesses over time and now needs to sweat it out, so a new era of gaming can start. It's just like with atari and E.T.
I am so glad I didn't play Starfield, I had it on my wishlist for sometime but dropped it eventually after reading all the bad reviews.
Great video. Bethesda needs to be pressured into either A. Making great games again or B. Letting a more competent developer like Obsidian (Fall Out New Vegas anyone?) make some games with their IP’s. They hoard their beloved IP’s while squandering their fans trust & money on nonsense like Fallout 76 & Starfield. 2 bland, soulless, boring, crappy games. Imagine a timeline where they didn’t do that, and instead made ES6 (what their fans actually f-cking wanted) and embraced the best aspects of Fallout New Vegas into their subsequent games. The missed opportunity is staggering. We should stop giving this company money until things change, I for one have made that decision already. I’ll be over here playing Elden Ring, Baldur’s Gate 3 & Cyberpunk 2.0 & other great games and will only support Bethesda when/if they get their sh*t together
Most of us aren't asking Bethesda for a masterpiece. We just want a competent game.
Bethesda has only delivered disappointment and boredom with Fallout 4, F76, and Starfield. Ok Fallout 4 was almost playable after a billion mods but still it was a mediocre Fallout game.
I actually liked all Fallout 4, F76, and yes I liked Starfield... but they feel abysmal compared to my first time playing Morrowind and Skyrim.
hint: bethesda it's your DEI hiring policy, they suck at their jobs
I’m gonna do a video on the DEI one day soon. I don’t know anymore. It’s just like they lost their way and keep going that way. They just don’t seem to be the same company anymore. Fallout 4 was the first game I played by Bethesda that I didn’t love. It was okay, but not what I expected. Imagine telling me back then that I would end up getting two worse games afterwards lol
@@AVVGaming1 and I guarantee all of us really wanted to like the newest games, like I even tried hard copium - but we can only pretend for so long because they really don't have the same quality as previous older titles.
It's simple really, the previous Bethesda games were developed by gamers and the recent Bethesda games were developed by NPCs who think working in the gaming industry is probably gonna be so cool they can't wait to tell their friends by posting a video on tiktok. I mean just look at the inventory UI in Starfield, what a pile of garbage design, a gamer would never make such unintuitive trash.
@@RektemRectums and what makes it worse is that they do interviews saying starfield is their best game. They argue with valid criticism. They say so many bad things about their players, I’m going to save it for my next video about Emil because there is so much to cover. It’s so tough to watch though
@@AVVGaming1 I hope you'll agree with this but I believe Bethesda's Creation Engine is not the problem. I know a lot of people think it is. The evidence is how Starfield was actually playable on release. It wasn't perfect but I rarely saw any complaints about bugs, the complaints were mostly about Starfield being boring and NPCs staring problem. Another evidence is how Obsidian took Bethesda's engine and created the amazing New Vegas. The problem is Bethesda themselves, just devoid of talent.
Every game engine is derived from an older one anyway.
"Money over self-respect." Nailed it. I was a Bethesda fan for quite some time. But no more. Starfield opened my eyes to the fact that Bethesda lacks the ability to make fun and engaging games. I am done with anything Bethesda.
Maybe some remember the time when Add-Ons were whole games by themselves, such as the expansions of Dawn of War, or the old Warcraft and Starcraft games. Funny to think of big companies believing they're living in a bubble where only they exist.
Very fair. I actually loved Starfield. I had zero expectations, and it blew me away. I played a few hundred hours before I was done and moved on. I was always going to return for DLC.
I had really high hopes for Shattered Space. It looked like it would be scary (i love Dead Space), and when they said "hand crafted" i was imagining a fallout map full of stories and depth and grit. Certainly a whole year and 30 dollars was enough for that.
The last DLC i bought for 30 dollars was the Tales of Arise expansion. It was wonderful. It was 20ish hours more of great story, exploring what happens in a world still healing after the 'hero' ends the 'big bad'. And they actually redesigned every city in the world, to show the change and new issues, when a whole culture is released from slavery, so i could see how my hero's journey changed everything. It was so good.
Shattered space was... well... i guess it was more starfield. They added a major city, on par with Akhila or Atlantis or Neon or the Key. With its own similar faction questline and similar amount of side content. So i would place its "value" around 15 dollars (a bit less than a quarter of the base game).
I took my time with it, exploring all the stuff outside the city. There are good little surprises and side quests. But... i dunno. I wasnt hungry for more. The writing was just really dry. It was hard to care about anyone from varuun. Its passion thats missing.
Sometimes i play games that are 10-20 years old. Being dated really doesn't matter when the writing is stellar and the stakes are high and i fear for characters. Look at the old resident evil (biohazard) games, or chrono games, or final fantasy 6/7/8. They look rough theae days.
But, OH, the stories they tell!
Its impressive how much Emil writes. But a whole team of passionate writers are needed to offer sprawling epic stories with truly different characters.
Note - When Oblivion came out, a lot of us were disappointed that we went from the crazy but believable world of Morrowind to a generic European fantasy setting. Shivering Isles was a direct answer to 'this world is too bland.' THAT'S the difference - in 2006, Bethesda listened to player concerns, took them seriously, and gave us gorgeous DLC that mixed things up a little. Skyrim trended toward some of the simplification woes we have discussed a lot, but the Dragonborn DLC, beside giving us a new story, was a love letter to Morrowind, and gave the players a million Morrowind references and assets to love and mod. They used to work WITH us. Now they're like Blizzard, telling us if we don't like the content there's something wrong with us, not the content.
I confess: the main story and some secondary ones (the faction, for example) are very good in my opinion, even if the execution is a bit questionable. The DLC, however, in addition to everything that was said in this excellent video, provided the first two "trophies" and that's it. Even after finishing the other activities, no other ones were provided. Regrettable.
I'd also point out that, with a smaller team and smaller budget, Obsidian put out a far superior Space-based RPG than Starfield, & then followed it up with 2 very solid Expansions IMHO.
I've done a video on it! Starfield vs Outer Worlds who did it better? And the clear winner, according to the comments, is Outer Worlds. Just waiting for TOW2 now!
As the head of a tiny studio, I plan to avoid this sort of situation.
@@Incog-e1z what’s your studio? I’d happily do a video on any of your games for free! In fact I think getting a video from the perspective of a small studio would make for a really good video! Would you be open to discussing that?
@@AVVGaming1 Totally. Have you attached an email to your TH-cam account? I’d post mine but TH-cam keeps deleting my comments.
@@Incog-e1z yes it’s on there! Shoot me a quick email and we will sort something out
@@AVVGaming1 Sounds good.
@@AVVGaming1 Just emailed you.
9:38 Didn't see that one coming! Nice!
Haha have you played it!? It’s going to be amazing!
@@AVVGaming1 Yeah Farming like a no life in the Sidequest dungeon made it to lv35
@@Mauditduparadis hahahaha I’ve got it on the way on it’s release date. My kind of game. In fact, Japanese games recently have really been my go to! Just finished xenoblade 3 and now on ff7 rebirth. Then I’ve got this one. So many games coming out.
@@AVVGaming1 Have fun
They think about it probably more than any other studio... Than maybe they should 'contemplating' less, and do actual work slightly more... Contemplating... good one. From what we've seen, only thing they do is... MEDITATING....
Shattered Space had the most boring premises i'd ever seen in a Bethesda game. BTW you can't even side with the evil faction, if you do you simply die without any sign, warning, or animation at all, and the game just reloads your most recent save.
We have heard everyones complaints, and after careful consideration...
Determined you are all wrong.
Bethesda PR Department
Emil sounds incredibly out of touch
Emils comments show you just how oblivious they really are. The quality of Phantom liberty makes shattered space look like an embarrassment. I wish Todd Howard would come to his senses, but it's looking like we won't get a proper modern-day AAA Quality Fallout or Elder Scrolls until he retires.
dlc is included in gamepass. but you are 100% Right, keep it up
Sometimes, when money comes through the door, talent goes out the window
Metallica, I mean Bethesda is a good example
For all those people who complain about the price.... it's on you guys you should have known this ...this is not news to anyone who has been in gaming for more than a few years.. you should do your research first before you buy s***
@@rave1704 absolutely spot on! I am not so much complaining that I spent the money, and truth be told, if I didn’t have a TH-cam channel I wouldn’t have gotten it lol I wanted to do a video on it hoping I could do a “Bethesda show signs of improvements, es6 stands a chance” video, but unfortunately this was the video I made :( but I really think nowadays we can wait until after a game comes out before jumping the gun