‘The Boys’ Eric Kripke on Writing to Actor's Strengths and Ignoring the Trolls | Showrunners Sitdown
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 มิ.ย. 2024
- 'The Boys’ Showrunner and Executive Producer Eric Kripke breaks down the on-set antics, writing to the actors’ strengths, ignoring the trolls and expanding the 'Boys' universe in this exclusive interview.
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I’m glad Starr is getting the love he is but people need to but some more respect on Karl Urban’s name. He doesn’t always have the same huge set pieces as Homelander but he steals every scene he’s in and plays such a devastating complicated character with ease. Such a brilliant nuanced performance.
karl urban is amazing!!!
Yes! So true. Love Karl
He's been been in more than a few MOVIES, not series.
Too typecast, though. Not always of his choosing. Here he gets to be big and tough and stupidly funny and sensitive. it's usually either or.
the title lmaooooo
EDIT: They removed the original title that said: 'The Boys' Eric Kripke on Not Wanting to "Make Edgelord Material for Incels"
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literally insane 😭
the way majority of the fandom are stigma male teenager boys 😭😭😭
@@mmmmnhhh 'stigma' 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Stormfront did this
@@mmmmnhhhLigma
It’s refreshing to hear Eric say that you don’t have to watch Gen V or The Boys to know absolutely everything, both are great shows on their own and it’s nice catching the small detail about Godolkin here and there
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And judging by the trailer we‘ll see Cate and Sam this season as well. It’s probably going to be a little confusing if you don’t have any context from Gen V
@@illogical001 fr. in the end of the day, watching GEN V felt more complete to THE BOYS universe. It's like watching BETTER CALL SAUL after BREAKING BAD.
Disney could've benefited from his advice with their star wars universe. No causal or new fan is watching 10 seasons of cartoons to understand an 8 episode series.
even if he said that, it seems dubious now, cause you kinda have to if you care about to know what is going on
It’s great they finally referenced the comic version of the ending and directly spoke with the showrunner. I was really hoping for this!
This guy comes up with the most insane shit and I respect him for it, ngl. As someone who was also into supernatural, I love this show.
Insane shit is one way of putting this guy's ideas...
Confused as to who interpreted the narrative as right wing.
ikr? even in season 1 they made fun of Christian rallies and them saying being gay is a sin
those who lack media literacy and thinks the show is laughing with them, not at them.
I dont think a single person believed it was a right wing show, alot of people just believed it was more profound than liberal talking points. The right wing jokes and dissection of the flaws in right wing views were great but it never felt forced and were kept very lighthearted and actually funny. Not to mention it never took the place of the actual plot of the show, being sure not to overshadow the character's motives and conflicts along with the actual corruption of these celebrity type superheroes. Season 4 threw that out the window with sterotypical insults about the right's views, never once acknowledging any of the countless problems the left also has while actively taking up screentime for a near neverending joke about republician media. Meanwhile liberals are the attacked and are righteous protestors and activist. A better writer and a generally more intelligent person would have just taken a more neutral stance, both of these viewpoints are literal extremes when put in their entirety and allying yourself with an extreme is never good because your subject to the flaws of said extreme. Plus people exist on both sides of the spectrum for a reason, both sides are fairly complex and are deserving of some level of acknowledgement and understanding. Basically this dude is just another liberal leading to boring and unintelligent writing, its like if a christian made a movie glamorizing christianity without acknowledging any of its many wrongdoings while making fun of every other religion.
@@xxrieanrinei4922they’ve been throwing stereotypical jokes at everyone like come on… blm burger… black at it. They’ve never stopped making fun of the left u just find more issues with the corporate left than the literal right
@@NONAM.E00 "corporate left", Blm burger insults an already widely disliked movement and the corporate world not leftist views, that's the difference. Every right wing joke is a mockery of the right's principles, the show is politically skewed and basied. The showrunner basically admitted to this himself when he said his views are directly put into his work.
I don't think he has a choice whether or not it's political. It's just the most sense-making way to write superheroes if they actually existed. Super-powered celebrity cops who get corrupted by power and adoration and skew to right-wing ideology to maintain that power, and it's never enough because they're trying to fill a whole they made themselves.
only right wing ideology? and not evil superhero celebs spewing left wing ideology?
@@austincha8006don't you know that you have to be right winged to have power, duh! That's why msnbc and cnn are so right wing. And why Joe Biden is using his right wingedness to cause inflation. And also why Disney uses their right wing power to force an agenda in every facet of their media. God politics suck. If only people would think for a moment without labeling each thought a color.
Did you miss Stormfront whole ark in season 3, or did it completely fly over your head? @@austincha8006
@@austincha8006 We mainly see fake left from the evil or corrupt, like Vought pretending to care about race and diversity, Neuman pretending to actually give a shit about the left she's representing politically etc.
@austincha8006 what? Anti gun hero??? Pro abortion hero??? Pls explain
Antony was the perfectly cast for Homelander and I don't if anyone else could play him. I remember watching the first few seasons and being very uncomfortable any time Homelander popped up on screen.
Also
I think it's very weird that anytime I'm watching a clip from the show and people just keep talking about Erin. She won't even be in the clip and still find a way.
I totally agree! I wish people would leave Erin alone. I’m glad she has learned to ignore those comments, but they should’ve never been there in the first place. She deserves better.
@@breebiebreeb she definitely deserves better.
@@Zeru68 a better surgeon maybe
@Trump4prez-ho9cb not even. We've seen them cast different people to play the Joker in live action and learned that not just anyone could play him. Jared Leto was terrible.
@@saberhap2639 cringe
Thank God for this man for making supernatural and the boys universe ❤
CW ruined Supernatural by making it go 10 extra years and destroying the lore and characters. They betrayed Kripke on that one cause he felt out said 5 years was his only version of the Supernatural story and season 5 is the true ending.
@@2Good2BeTrue45the first 5 seasons >>
Eric Kripke is a national treasure, please protect this amazing human being at all cost. He had my admiration with Supernatural (seasons before the leviathan story arc) and now with The Boys and Gen V. Marvel may need his level of writing brilliance to fix what they broke in the MCU.
@@joesephovide2942 is this satire?
Dudes a good showrunner
The master of gaslighting
The boys is forever iconic
Nice job with this interview! As a big fan of the first 5 seasons of Supernatural and now the Boys, I’m realizing Eric Kripke is simply the man 🤩
Considering the most recent interview concerning episode 6…. The call is coming from inside the house, sir.
That was so gross
I canceled my prime. Absolutely heinous.
What interview?
@@phone5579 Variety
The interviewer is soo professional tho, love them
He comes across as genuine, ethical & kind. I haven’t given a lot of thought to the man behind the curtain before now but this was really cool to watch.
I loved Supernatural so much for those first seasons and though Eric had created a really fuck gritty world that could also be goofy and hilarious at times. I'm so proud of where he is now in his career and that he's had so much success on this show.
Really solid interview!
Great interview!
watching this interview really appreciated me more for the interviewer she really knows what the show is about and also did her research with the deviation from the comics props to variety for this wonderful interview!
This is so nice, thank you!
Great interview.
Keep up the good work. I love it!
Great interview!! 👍🏼
I like the fact, that he says out loud, that no one should root for the psycho Homelander! So many men like this character and he is the worst. As are Tyler Durden, the Joker or Travis Bickle, but there are so many men, that think they are cool and rolemodels...
This is due to media literacy issues and ability to deeply interpret a story played out in front of them, to derive what these stories actually mean and how that can inform how one goes out into and behaves in the world. Stories are more important than we think
They are cool and interesting and complex and I would also say compelling in ways your more purely ethical type of characters can be because they actually represent true human nature were as heroes tend to represent a fantasy or wish for what we want to be as people.
That is why they are so good at holding up a mirror to what we are and yes on a more basic level tend to also be more fun because bad people characters are often allowed to be a little more fun because they are not being held up as role models.
No sane person would think of Homelander as any kind of rolemodel. We do appreciate a good villain in stories that is true, but that doesn't mean we want to be like them, at least most of us don't. Those people you talk about are not men, they are children.
i mean they’re cool but i wouldn’t root for them
Tyler Durden is God
This was a really good interview. I absolutely love this show and everyone involved does a fantastic job!
Cool interview 👍
I'm loving her questions
Eric Kripke has always been a good one. Supernatural was amazing.
Also, you can tell by the quality of the people that work for him too or have worked for him. The Jeffrey Dean Morgan's of the world, Jensen Ackles, The Boys cast.
Supernatural seasons 1 to 5 (the story he created, wrote and ended with season 5 was amazing, seasons 6 to 15 was pure fanfiction and killed the show)
This guy is cool and knows what he's doing. Season 4 has just been ok to me so far but it's only just started and i have faith in Kripke to bring this story home.
the first season was the weak one imo
@@auntisthenes2754 to each his own, I loved season 1 but the show has evolved so much since then I think. Homelander looks totally different in season 1 his hairstyle is a bit different and he looks quite a bit younger than he does now lol. I love that he looks older now though seeing as homelander is struggling with his age in the new season.
@@GhoulReviews Season 3 was a blast, pun intended ! i'm afraid they can't top that. So far so good but slow, it's got to blow somehow.. next season if it doesn't. Soldier Boy perhaps should have been kept in reserve. Oh, that's where he is..Some hope yet.
@@auntisthenes2754 season 3 is the best season for sure. Soldier boy will be In season 5.
@@GhoulReviews I don't know if a tour de force is required. It was enough guilty pleasure to see him appearing in dreams in Gen-V!!!
getting him out of his slumber is a cheap move. Possibly a divine move too. The creator's ultimate wild card.
Eric Kripe is ironically not too different from the mentality of Vought and it's employees. Which is why he can write about them so well.
Great interview and a fab start to the season!
Came for the fun dark-hero gore… stayed for the characters!
Guess bro took those "literally me" Homie memes a little too literally.....
It is blasphemy that Anthony hasn’t won an Academy Award yet! IT’S SHAMEFUL THAT HOLLYWOOD DOESN’T TAKE SUPERHEROES TV SHOWS AND FILMS SERIOUS.
You mean Emmy for television. Academy Award is for movies.
@@micahjohansson7573 Emmy is an tv academy.
@@ineshadixon1377”an” comes before a vowel sound, ”tv” does not begin with a vowel sound.
Whys the audience score going down?
Because they're showing frenchie like guys and people don't like that their political nature is being made fun of. They're realizing they're being made fun of and not liking it. Plus apparently someone just can't be gay in a show
@@juliandavis9711it’s not that Frenchie is gay, it’s that the love interest came literally out of nowhere and feels forced, plus everyone thought he and kimiko were going to be a thing
@@onesaucynougat7471 Wasn't it established that they weren't gonna be a thing last season?
@@juliandavis9711 people still really wanted it to happen
@@onesaucynougat7471Huh how weird that there's backlash when it's a gay relationship and none when frenchies sexuality was explored for 3 whole ass seasons so far.
I wonder why.
Dont change the ending!!!!! You can make it pretty gut wrenching (not talking about the clone thing, that can change)
Congratulations Kripke, it's very possible I despise Firecracker more than Homelander. You have finally pushed a personal red hot button and we both know you are not sorry! 😖😩😮💨
Yeah.......I still love the Boys💞
So Sister Sage is basically the Cassandra complex personified. Ok
Which is exactly wgat the og comic is in hindsight
He is so well spoken
Ignoring legitimate critiques*
Yeah loved this and Supernatural series.😁 Also helps that both Butcher and Homelander are kiwis like me.😁
FIRE🖤
Eric seems like a real one. Unfortunately, like Zack Snyder-cool guy, but draws the most annoying and horrible fanbase
Disappointing take, honestly. For years, people tried to paint Snyder as a Rand-obsessed fascist. The same brush was used to uniformly paint his following in the then-prominent entertainment blogosphere.
Not only is Snyder none of the alarmist labels he was accused of being, but so goes for the plurality of his fans. What you will find upon a more honest assessment is that the American exceptionalism that courses through the cultural DNA of Superman and his offshoots, such as Homelander, is understandably party to some subscribers of fundamentalist thinking. Even activism behind the Snyder Cut, which was increasingly proven to be a fact-based fixation, was a reaction to disinformation encouraged by the studio establishment. It is a profoundly reductive habit to simplify both individuals and highly diverse groups into a single undesirable and glib sentiment.
I'm not sure for how long the quality can be kept up tbh. I mean gen v is an incredible spin off.
But even that shouldn't be stretched out for too long.
And now theres a the boys mexico in the works?
NGL, I have enough of super heroes after the boys season 5s hopefully really brutal and satisfying end for good!
Great interview, by someone whose name is a mix of auteur and author
I like this Eric Boys man dude
Not mentioning JDM with the list of supernatural actors is a crime 😂
It's kind of funny that he didn't give props to the comics having the presidency storyline. (Edit) hes a great show runner and everything. Love the show, but just strange and strange the interviewer asked like they dont know how they came up with the storyline?
Maybe they're trying to create false hype??? Yes the showrunners change things around but you can still see parts of the comic shine through.
Sister Sage able to save all of mankind? She's a colossal misanthrope lmao
Before Homelander met her she just wanted to be left alone. I cant tell how much the current misanthropy is a real behavior or a survival tactic.
@@davyhotch it's both
Never saw an interview with Eric, but I definitely like him. Love the boys, and love how he stood up for Erin!! Fuckin weirdos online I swear..and I hope I’m one of the “good” fans lol.
0:09 can't wait to say this to my buds 😂
I can see the fear in Eric's eyes when he talks about the universe of The Boys expanding, it'll most likely end up like the MCU or worse Star Wars...
He went from a great writer from season 1 to a idiot in season 4
Just finished watching Gen V...
Didn't know that guy died, rip bro.
I live in South Africa and glad I can't understand the fuss about this great show.
Wait what is The Boys Mexico
Eric Kripke kinda looks like Mike from Breaking Bad if he was young
>unironically using the word "incel"💀
RIP CHANCE
Antony getting a Emmy this season stg
I'd like to see EK direct/write a feature horror movie for the big screen.
As soon as you announce that it’s political and to “go watch another show” it’s a red flag for a shows future
Someone needs to check this guys hard drives and search history
Why does this dude seem to think 99% of americans think homelander is a genuinely good person ? Literally every single sane person on earth can instantly realize homelander is a monster
Unfortunately they think he is doing the wrong thing for the right reasons
It’s a BS statement. I haven’t seen anyone in my life or on social media ever seriously say Homelander is a hero. It’s just him trying to validate politicizing the show. Just listening to him in this interview, he makes it very clear that politics has been injected in to the show.
@@Roach22 He says with words out of his mouth that the comic itself is highly political in itself, just from a different era. And the show makes fun of both ends of the American political spectrum
@Roach22 I've definitely come across some people who definitely like homelander a bit too much to put it lightly. And someone who is basically homelander without the powers, truly despicable person, however it definitely is a vocal minority more than anything
@@brade7022 With over 8 billion people in the world, there has to be at least a few psychos. I guess it comes down to whether people like the person you know is the exception or the rule. Though, I wouldn’t be surprised if a significant majority of those “Homelander is a hero” fans are just seeking attention.
Kripke did Frenchie and Kimiko dirty 💀
not really if you payed attention last season you would have realized that frenchie and kimoko's relationship had a weird dynamic due to how they met and what they've gone through and they are more like uncle and niece or brother and sister plus frenchies past coming back to haunt him has been a recurring theme for his character and it's important for his story arc so introducing colin is not "doing him dirty."
not at all actually
i like that they aren’t dating. men and women can just be really close friends without any romantic feelings between them. media doesn’t show that a lot of
@@nattyism I agree with that, but they destroyed the chemistry they previously had and just suddenly introduced a random black homosexual person. It seems odd if u ask me
@@happy-but-depressed it isn't odd. it makes sense but people don't understand media literacy. it was very obvious what was going on with frenchie and that dude and that it wasn't going to last. this entire season was about the characters confronting their past and frenchie was a part of that
I consider homelander as my idol
Plus he can literally overcome nukes so i dont know how hes weakest character
physically he is the strongest character but mentally he is rather weak considering his severe insecurity to be loved and revered as well as his deteriorating mental wellbeing leading him to become more unstable and unhinged.
I still felt like everything happened abruptly. Similar to what would happen in a soap opera. Whereas Breaking Bad sprinkles hints throughout the seasons. Building a story as a whole. There was way too many things that happened in the 4th season that I feel would make more sense if there were hints throughout all the seasons for such dramatic scenerios to happen in the 4th season. It just felt rushed -- slapped on. As if they ran out of ideas after the third season. Especially the first episode of season 4. Compare it to invincibles. They did a much better story telling job.
Actually Homelander was behind the scene waiting to laser Eric if he said something he didn't like...its true ask Ashley
Eric Kripke is a genius and based!!!
🤝
The title is completely valid. Theres always a risk of bevoming edgy for no reason
Did he j say butcher is Irish?
Honestly I’m glad to hear that Kripke really cares about his show
The problem is in the show you gave Homelander like a sad backstory. He still a shit human being but you know where that comes from he was tortured as a child and he’s funny so it’s kind of hard to completely hate him I completely fear him
stunning and brave, with the fantastic marketing campaign that is based on pure gaslighting
Billy is supposed to be Irish? Wth I thought I saw an English flag in his flashback and I thought Karl Urban was just doing a bad cockney accent
he meant that Garth Ennis is Irish and has a batter reference for Butcher from experience, so Eric makes sure to consider Garth's wishes in writing the character and his dialogue
oh no duh, thank you for clearing that up
Beluga aahh forehead
wait Butcher is supposed to be British? I was 100% certain he was supposed to be Australian.
I highly suggest reading his latest interview and what he said about the dark and troubling events of S4 E6 before giving him such high praise. I find it highly inappropriate of him - someone who has such a successful career in show running and writing - to find such dark themes to be "hilarious".
Idgaf about american politics, im not from america, so my hope is, you just write a good show with interesting characters and stories.
It’s an American show made for an American audience.
@@jazzingirl *made for a global audience... Steady on there Homelander
@@jazzingirl Then why does it air globally?
@@jazzingirlcue Amerika by Rammstein jeezo
he never said u should care
I would love to work in this show. I have a great idea: a super trio composed by Cocaine Cole, Bob Weed and Whiskey Woo.
Cocaine Cole would be all made of "white sugar" and have a powerful attack like a cocaine tornado that induces a massive overdose. He can die after Soldier Boy and Homelander get bored of him and sniff all of his body just because they want to feel like... father and son.
Bob Weed have lungs made of Marijuana and his breath could relax and induce all the effects of Marijuana, like ansiety and paranoia. He can be the leader of the trio, a great friend of Firecracker and a complete cynical guy. He can be killed by Butcher and some old group that seeks marijuana just for medicinal purposes...
Whiskey Woo, a man that can piss whisky and has tears of beer. With a pack full of empty bottles and his lighter he is like a walking cocktail molotov factory. Women and men love his "golden shower". His massive stupidity and pyromania don’t know limits…
Fucking Diabolical...
Coming from an interviewer and interviewee looking like the incels themselves beautiful video
“I’m really scared of becoming what we’re parodying” 2 seasons too late brother 😂
Please explain why? 😭
Good to hear that show won't follow comic's ending
"He's giving very George Bush speeches"
The comics is written interely during the Bush administration and everything surrounding it. I think the show, has much they have been loving puking fun at current American politics, they should focus more on having variety in its satire by mock other stuff. Yes, the world is acclaimed to be political but it doesnt have to inherently focus on Trumpism, alt-right stuff and put the superhero/celeb agenda has a back burner. I thnk that's why this season people are being exhausted about it because its more of the same and the same arcs. He compares South Park with The Boys but from what i can recall through the years of South Park, they have tackled other issues than political stuff and how that they has made become more consitent through the years. They dont just stick with one sub-theme and try to desconstruct it but do more than that. Its not really a valid argument when we know S1 of The Boys wasn't just trying to be politcal.
Well apples and oranges mofo
What show have you been watching? It makes fun of every side.
@@CharismaSpencer LOL no
From day one the superhero angle has been a criticism of capitalism, which is definitely a political position….
@@CharismaSpencerFor someone who's not an American, seeing the progressive people focus on Trumpism all the time is not fun because satire is a endless field and American politics isn't just the one theme to focus.i have not seen them tackle AI stuff yet and its been something on the rise everywhere in the world.
Eric Kripke is my new favorite person
This show proves that aslong as the storytelling and plot/writing is good it doesnt matter if its woke or not 🙏🔥
This season is peak except Frenchie and Kimiko thing, he ruined their arc fr.
my read anyway. honestly it's nearing whatever they're going to do to match Frenchie and Kimiko breaking off to try not doing anything but living life part of the arc of the comics before the series ended the way it did.
This is the most relevant show on TV right now.
House of the dragon
Girl, it’s a fictional show
Love his fear of how one story depends on the other n not giving his audience homework but as someone that watches all 3 of the shows it makes so many moments(big or small) more interesting or adds replay value
Im tired of this dialog that edgy is incel. The super heroes are celebrity analogs. Celebs lie, cheat, sa, pedos, fraud, politics corrupting, etc this all happens daily in real life why would showing what literal gods in that same position doing the same to an extreme be edgy. Its wierd that the show is so tame. Heck people should really read the books without the sticks up you know where to see it wasnt that edgy.
Its an overused word and misused constantly.
Unfortunately, this is what happens when you take media from a niche genre and make it more accessible to a large and profitable but also loud and sensitive audience, and why gatekeeping is a thing... An IP with darker elements going mainstream typically means it has to lose its originality and spark in some way and adjust to appeal to those who probably wouldn't have enjoyed it in its natural state in the first place, and those of us who could consume the source material _and_ find enjoyment in it must suffer the consequences...
I think it's time to change the title to Homelander, because I frankly don't really care about the Boys. Homelander is much more interesting as a character.
Especially after watching episode 4 of the newest season. I can’t wait to see what he’s going to do in the next episodes to come
The guy has such a negative opinion of people on the right
As he should. They’re awful and gaslighters
@@redcomet0079lmfaooo as if the left doesn’t do the same.
@@skyofthelivingdead I’m sorry genius, remind me again, who was found guilty of 34 counts? Because it wasn’t a democrat. 🥱
@@skyofthelivingdead *no response & crickets* 🤐🦗 typical Trumplican trolling 101
@@redcomet0079I mean, both left and right leaning figures have gone to jail or have been investigated by authorities in the past and present. And there's people on both sides who complain about corruption in court(and judges) all the time. I get what your saying but still.
Pff I don't care about his agenda but come on, his satire is not only against one side of the spectrum and there must also be an economic interest in giving a certain message. In other words, the intention he has with the program responds to the culture we find ourselves in.Don't get me wrong, I love the show although I think Frenchie and Kimiko's plots are the weakest in the show, as are Marius and Cosette in Les Misérables, but my point is that he is not doing anything brave or critical when he just repeats the same speech from all companies.
I guess I’m an incel for not wanting to see a dude who can multiply himself run his own human centipede.
You know full well what type of incel he's referring to
don’t be dense
Are surprised this show would do something like that? The Boys already did a bunch of nasty sh*t in the last 3 seasons.
@@starsomendid you not realize this show is making fun of perverse people the whole time? I'm surprised you didn't figure that out. Kinda embarrassing...
@@7DAYSOFOPENINGNIGHTS it really isn't. If anything it makes fun of people who abuse power or carelessly misuse it. The show is pretty sex positive
Props to Kripke for being a real one the guy genuinely says what he wants and doesn't give a fuck about who it offends.
Speaking what "everyone" feels isn't exactly as edgy as you think it is
Meanwhile Kripke gets offended when people call his show utter garbage. Double standard much?
He holds the same position as every corporation on the planet, very edgy
He's really going out on a limb saying what 95% of what every corporation and media group says. Wow. How brave.
@@WillJ3ll0 lol exactly
you can tell he tries very hard not to include things in his show that will offend certain people
hes just another guy for the corporations
added a b1ack woman as a social commentary because b1ack women are invisible? lol
more like the average man is invisible but that would go against their agenda
If the goal was to not make homelander a relatable character the failed miserably
Homelander is a murdering psychopath but if you find that relatable that says a lot about you 😬
@@sydwhatley your surface level character analysis is impressive
I think that's just a you problem
@@JRDBrennan the ability to empathize with him is fair, relating is a step too close to the edge though.
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50 year old man talking and writing the way he does
He’s a creepy dude