Today's NEW strategy (clickbait explanation): Full info under "read more" to avoid spoilers, but this style reminded me of the American Hero Neeb when he was dominating Zerg with his aggressive opener into macro Protoss vs Zerg! MaNa's One Two Punch - working title: Void Ray scouting denial into a very quick 3 base Chargelot timing with +1 (helps a ton against Ling/Roach). Followed up with 2+ Robo Immortal to counter the inevitable Roaches while aggressively expanding. Still has options to go Phoenix or Storm (or maybe Collosi) if Zerg ends up heading for Mutas or Hydra instead. I don't think it will work everytime, but obviously is super strong against Zergs who are almost trained to be dealing with Blink or Archon timings instead of the quick chargelots. Reynor gets bamboozled by MaNa's "greed" without realizing he's building an attack behind it! Thanks for watching, make sure to smash the like button and we will feed Jimmy sometime next week!
I like how non-standard Mana plays. Mid fight stasis, zealot based strats, mass immortals. He won with creativity rather than perfect macro and tempest disruptor kind of play
Reynor kinda threw those two games, especially the last one where the last fight he lost his 13 clumped together Lurkers that were all alone without any protection. And another big fight earlier when he tried to end the game and 50 lings got static fielded, plus fighting through a narrow point into a concave. Oh well shit happens I guess
Game 1 I just saw a 4-base early void ray into chargelot timing into immortal/archon push into losing all the chargelots and getting the archons caught behind the immortals. Damn MaNa that was rough!
Coming back to SC2 after two years off, and it is good to see names I actually know. Mana was my favorite back in the day, partially because he actually beat the AI, but also for his blink stalker/disruptor play. So glad he is making a mark again.
For a second, I saw only Reynor's card and thought "Oh is he trying out protoss again?" Only to be surprised and see MaNa. This is going to be a fun vid!
Apparently his account was hacked and he's in the process of recovering it. Terrible timing (unlike his builds in this series). Bookmark it here: th-cam.com/users/manaesports should be back soon™
Finally Winter named the real issue with PvZ which is criminal lack of build variety. For comparison, in PvT there are 6 of just openers which all have different - and viable - follow-ups.
Tryna avoid spoilers with this comment, so ill be a bit vague. Not to detract from the winner of game 3, who played excellently, but I think a lot of that win at the end was more the other player snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. A couple of micro errors led to the loss of the most vital chunk of the army, not using a buffer for the long ranged units, not making proper use of the spellcasters. In all fairness, there was a lot of shit going on, so he had reason to be distracted, trying to micro across effectively 4 bases simultaneously. So props to the attacker for excellent splitting of units to hit multiple locations and chase down scattered army elements. Also excellent decision making, recognizing that he was in a position to win after catching that big chunk, and knowing he didn't really have the luxury of backing off. It was a gamble to press the attack, since if his opponent pulled it together the game would immediately end, but he clearly knew it was do-or-die at that point.
@@ashtonsmith9682 cope dude. his mid/early game play is amazing. And he is still incredible with lurkers. He is intentionally trying new lategame strategies sometimes they just look a mess though like this game. Sometimes yall forget these people arent like constantly learning/developing?!
@@coololi07 he isn't experimenting. He just isnt good. He won because of imba mid game bane spam that pinned protoss to 3-4 bases while zerg could easily take 5-6. His late game play is atrocious and that is why he cries that toss is imba all the time. He isn't close to serral level. and he still plays zerg which is the strongest race by far even with all the zerfs.
Kind of hurts to see mana float over 1k when severely down in army supply. I first noticed it in game 2. I wonder if that could have turned game 2 around, though that split roach ravager army was very scary...
Love the videos, thanks for the countless hours of entertainment. Has anyone actually looked at this guy up close? Just hard to believe the amount of subs. Keep em coming :P
36:28 how cool would it be if immortals could toggle between long range and close range attack? Perhaps when long range mode is active, barrier is disabled and attack speed is a bit slower.
I think Protoss just needs an anti-air unit that comes out of the robo... immortals & collosi are great but they just cannot deal with medivacs, vikings, and vipers. Stalkers are just not a good unit but they're still protoss's only ground to air option
Today's NEW strategy (clickbait explanation): Full info under "read more" to avoid spoilers, but this style reminded me of the American Hero Neeb when he was dominating Zerg with his aggressive opener into macro Protoss vs Zerg!
MaNa's One Two Punch - working title:
Void Ray scouting denial into a very quick 3 base Chargelot timing with +1 (helps a ton against Ling/Roach). Followed up with 2+ Robo Immortal to counter the inevitable Roaches while aggressively expanding. Still has options to go Phoenix or Storm (or maybe Collosi) if Zerg ends up heading for Mutas or Hydra instead.
I don't think it will work everytime, but obviously is super strong against Zergs who are almost trained to be dealing with Blink or Archon timings instead of the quick chargelots. Reynor gets bamboozled by MaNa's "greed" without realizing he's building an attack behind it!
Thanks for watching, make sure to smash the like button and we will feed Jimmy sometime next week!
Protoss vs Zerg is my favorite matchup to watch you cast
Can you link the sound track you use for these casts?
Change my name on super pylon+ to big Jiggy please 😊
why are you talking like that?
Damn. That last fight in game three was a masterclass - army composition, positioning, and micro all coming together in a devastating reversal, 10/10
47:58 "AND I SLAUGHTERED THEM LIKE ANIMALS"
5:34 Best "Oh No." I've ever heard from Brenda
I like how non-standard Mana plays. Mid fight stasis, zealot based strats, mass immortals.
He won with creativity rather than perfect macro and tempest disruptor kind of play
Special tactics. Make base and defense it (c) WhiteRa
Honestly, I didn't expect MaNa to prevail. Don't get me wrong, he is a great player, but Reynor is a fucking beast. Well done!
Reynor kinda threw those two games, especially the last one where the last fight he lost his 13 clumped together Lurkers that were all alone without any protection.
And another big fight earlier when he tried to end the game and 50 lings got static fielded, plus fighting through a narrow point into a concave.
Oh well shit happens I guess
"what a clusterfuck this fight is" my thoughts exactly XD
3 voids w/ 100+ combined kills. Unsung heroes...
Game 1 made me see why Winter gets so mad when Toss players lose their Oracles early
War of the Worlds death ball xD
was looking for this comment 🤣‼️
Was very impressed by Mana in this series! I think game 3 was a bit of a throw from Reynor but the way Mana capitalized on it was fantastic
13:30 7 ULTRALISKS on the way haha
After watching the latest Dark game against Hero, Reynor feels like bronze league heroes.
Game 1 I just saw a 4-base early void ray into chargelot timing into immortal/archon push into losing all the chargelots and getting the archons caught behind the immortals. Damn MaNa that was rough!
Coming back to SC2 after two years off, and it is good to see names I actually know. Mana was my favorite back in the day, partially because he actually beat the AI, but also for his blink stalker/disruptor play. So glad he is making a mark again.
God damn, at 42:49 of game 3 it was 13 army supply for Mana vs 80 of Reynor. What an absolute BEAST of a comeback.
I love the Zealot play honestly. Maybe not for every game but its so nice to see them pulling this much weight.
For a second, I saw only Reynor's card and thought "Oh is he trying out protoss again?" Only to be surprised and see MaNa. This is going to be a fun vid!
even tho the void rays did get put on the back burner; they put in a lot of work this series. a banger of a series.
The Neo New Really-New-Since-Last-Week Meta.
42:50 Only a zerg can be up 80 supply, nearly doubling that of their opponent, and still somehow lose the game LOL
Nah, that's because stuff was in production. By the actual engagement, the army supply was very close.
That winning attack and composition in the last game was insane.
Mana"s youtube channel down?
Wait what?
It got hacked. He’s working on getting it recovered
Apparently his account was hacked and he's in the process of recovering it. Terrible timing (unlike his builds in this series). Bookmark it here: th-cam.com/users/manaesports should be back soon™
@@WinterStarcraft epic phrasing. My day just got a little bit better! Have a nice sunday!
Finally Winter named the real issue with PvZ which is criminal lack of build variety.
For comparison, in PvT there are 6 of just openers which all have different - and viable - follow-ups.
YOU! SHALL! NO-oh no what are those??
manas prism game is beautiful to watch. what a series
Tryna avoid spoilers with this comment, so ill be a bit vague.
Not to detract from the winner of game 3, who played excellently, but I think a lot of that win at the end was more the other player snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. A couple of micro errors led to the loss of the most vital chunk of the army, not using a buffer for the long ranged units, not making proper use of the spellcasters. In all fairness, there was a lot of shit going on, so he had reason to be distracted, trying to micro across effectively 4 bases simultaneously.
So props to the attacker for excellent splitting of units to hit multiple locations and chase down scattered army elements. Also excellent decision making, recognizing that he was in a position to win after catching that big chunk, and knowing he didn't really have the luxury of backing off. It was a gamble to press the attack, since if his opponent pulled it together the game would immediately end, but he clearly knew it was do-or-die at that point.
wish we got a mirror match a little more. They are very interesting to me.
Very exciting series, great to see MaNa featured. What a fight!
This fight was titanic.
game 1 was so weird it felt like reynor had no plan once he actually got to hive tech
almost like he never was actually that good and only had a good win in zvp from spamming OP banes that toss has no counter for.
@@ashtonsmith9682 You do realize that Reynor is a former world champion, right?
@@ashtonsmith9682 cope dude. his mid/early game play is amazing. And he is still incredible with lurkers. He is intentionally trying new lategame strategies sometimes they just look a mess though like this game. Sometimes yall forget these people arent like constantly learning/developing?!
@@coololi07 he isn't experimenting. He just isnt good. He won because of imba mid game bane spam that pinned protoss to 3-4 bases while zerg could easily take 5-6. His late game play is atrocious and that is why he cries that toss is imba all the time. He isn't close to serral level. and he still plays zerg which is the strongest race by far even with all the zerfs.
Finally some Protoss deathballs. Missed those.
I am proud how well my compatriot MaNa acquitted himself in this truly Epic Showdown !
Kind of hurts to see mana float over 1k when severely down in army supply. I first noticed it in game 2. I wonder if that could have turned game 2 around, though that split roach ravager army was very scary...
"Jimmy?!" We could all use Jimmy's voice in our heads. The world would be a better place.
im happy to see mana win vs reynor. imo mana is underrated
Remember when they told us if you just keep pressure on zerg and force them to make units, they won't be able to get their economy going?
wow i said "i cannot believe this game" for each game
Big ups
Fantastic video as always Winter, but this Mana player has made it even better, hope to see more of them soon! Hi Jimmy!
You're one of my favorite casters
Love the videos, thanks for the countless hours of entertainment. Has anyone actually looked at this guy up close? Just hard to believe the amount of subs. Keep em coming :P
Production units with an upgrade to switch them to ranged units but only mine half as fast? Is this possible?
36:28 how cool would it be if immortals could toggle between long range and close range attack? Perhaps when long range mode is active, barrier is disabled and attack speed is a bit slower.
I think Protoss just needs an anti-air unit that comes out of the robo... immortals & collosi are great but they just cannot deal with medivacs, vikings, and vipers. Stalkers are just not a good unit but they're still protoss's only ground to air option
@@yugonostalgia8961 TECHNICALLY sentries also have a ground to air attack HAHAHA
@@kainakrit9311 Triumph of the tickle-beams!!!
cant believe that 3rd game comeback
Mana's micro was something else!
,,Voidray rush imba or bad?" - Carmac
Mana link in description no work :(
I was subscribed and the channel disappeared 😢
The amount of juggling protoss has to do during a fight to stay relevant is insane while Zerg just right clicks
It's crazy he won game 3 like that
Why wall off with gateways when you can wall off with stasis lings?
cuz second time zerg will use one zergling to activate it
Holy shit these were amazing games.
Games like this make me log in
Ty winter. It did make my dad just that much better.
Immortals are so fuckin' cool man. I wish we could see more of those things at higher levels.
how to beat zerg with protos? 600 apm with perfect oracle and prism micro during 12mn fights. EASY.
Why don't Protoss players go for +3 shields? I rarely see it.
Anyone can be a Scientist. Just like Reynor.
Crazy good series!
Another stellar commentary
wtf did he do with those broodlords unprotected
Go Grzegorz :)
What a twist!
Still like the intro, keep up the great casts :)
Waiting for Jimmy to low-ball with a triple digit number
Actually... Does Parasitic Bomb damage Collosi?
Thank You
Om nom nom
never seen stasis ward abuse like this before. beautiful.
Mana finally get rewards for his zealot only challenges :))) his zealot timimg amd warp prism micro is god tier :)))
That was awesome
man i need the protos build order
I feel like a couple Colossus would have helped
poor Mana got hacked, hope he gets back online soon
I like your videos automatically now. Well done for the polite requests.
My life for hire!
My day is now a little bit better. Thank you.
PS: Mana's link doesn't work.
There's no MaNa HS card
lol mana's channel link is 404
Protoss looking more viable vs top Zerg than mid-tier terran
this has been my build for like a year. its just i dont do it as well
Lol mana ist not a top 25 player from the world, maybe from Europe, but definitely not from the world.
Not first
Wooooooo first
Never posted a first. I know nobody cares. Lol
beat me by 20secs
Me by a full minute.@@villz1267
We care!
Lol every vid "new strat crazy omg" ... 16 hatch macro
Unreal, what a slug fest
why is no videos actually go over the build order all they do is talk about bullshit the whole video
I wish you didn't have to make such misleading thumbnails
That's why TikToks setup is better
Garbage.
I had to watch this at 2x speed just to muster through 1/2
so bad