MAJOR updates for 3D in After Effects!
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3D models are starting to feel like a natural part of After Effects, and the updates just keep coming! 3D model import has been possible in the beta version of After Effects for a while now, but the dev team is really pushing what's possible lately. In this video, I'll show you how to work with 3D models in After Effects, and how to use features that were recently released. Image-based lighting with HDRIs, voxel-based shadows, and the new Adobe Standard Material is making 3D much more interesting in After Effects.
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Chapters
00:00 Intro
01:11 Getting the beta version of AE
02:05 Revopoint Inspire 3D Scanner
02:49 Prepping the Models
03:23 Importing
05:11 Working with 3D Objects
07:49 Environments & Lighting
09:50 Adding a Background
11:34 Renderer Options
13:57 Shadow Box Size
15:07 Custom Mattes
17:31 Matted Adjustments
20:06 What do you think?
Wow, this video got some serious responses from you all! I'd like to say just a few things.
Firstly, thank you for not directing your frustration at me :). I am doing my best to present the information and show how you could able to make use of it. I do agree with a lot of the frustrations that have been brought up, and fully admit that basically any alternative is a better choice for 3D work than this beta feature which is very much a work in progress.
I'm generally a very optimistic guy, and I've been using AE long enough to remember non-dockable workspace panels. I've been seriously impressed by how far it's been pushed as a software and what's capable using it now versus when I first started using the program. At the same time, it's incredibly frustrating to have to rely on third-party tools to make AE tollerable to work with.
Every piece of software is going to have downfalls; every program crashes, is missing a feautre, or does something absurdly complicated for no apparent reason. But the fact that AE has virtually zero competition in the scope of it's application makes it difficult for me to be pessimistic. Yes there's Cavalry, but that's not going to replace compositing work. Yes there's the Grease Pencil in Blender, but that's not going to replace text animators and shape layers. Yes there's Resolve, but I use AE for more than just VFX and compositing.
If there were an alternative that could do all of the things I use AE for, I'd be much less likely to stick with Adobe. Learning softward like UE5 and Blender for FREE is making it difficult to be satisfied with some of AE's pitfalls, but I've made a career out of working with and teaching others how to use After Effects, so I won't be jumping ship any time soon.
One final note! I realize how hacky the Calculations matte layer technique is, but that's exactly what it is -- a hack! This is a beta feature of After Effects, and it will not be long before that hack is completely uneccesary. I showed it to teach a technique, and to make use of a beta feature that is not ready for primetime yet.
Keep being awesome, and thanks for all the comments.
This is such a life saver tutorial, especially the workflow bit. I was hesitant to jump into this cos of fear of it being too buggy but I am ready to take the plunge after this tutorial, thanks Jake!
Jake muchas gracias por informarnos acerca de esto y mostrarnos tu habilidoso workflow.
I'm totally mind blown with this new 3D capabilities in AE & the way you presented it is just perfect, I loved it.
Very exciting. Thanks for your showing your workflow jake. Really helpful. Thanks Jake for always doing amazing and helpful videos!.
Very exciting. Thanks for your showing your workflow jake. Really helpful
It was amazing, thank for this overview
Pretty nice -- when I switched to using 3D plugins in After Effects several years ago it changed my work fundamentally. This will really game changing once they incorporate 3D deformations, reflections, or the appearance of PBR materials. One thing to note about Element which I think most people forget, is that it was designed to be a 3D particle/flocking/morphing animation engine, not so much a full 3D scene designer.
Jake! this is beyond my ken at the moment - and not at all what I want to do as an artist - But that you are here - everyday(ish) - with the goods and the explanation and the energy is what makes this community The Thing. Thank you for what you do and all that you give. Many many many of your videos have improved my understanding of AE and desire to learn much more - technically and artistically - Much Thanks!
this is interesting but to be honest I just wish Adobe would properly re-code After Effects instead of adding more stuff to make it slower and even less stable
there are plenty of decent options when it comes to 3D Mograph/Animation but no decent alternative when it comes to 2D Motion Graphics
In my opinion Apple Motion is a pretty great alternative to AE, you should give it a try. You can do most of the things you can do in AE with it. The only downside is its plugin ecosystem which is really poor.
…also Motion has had 3D model import since a long time! 😊
i couldn't like this comment more....how long did it take adobe to fix layer masks? ten years? why becuase they cant change one line of their code without breaking their old legacy software. they need a complete rewrite.
@@julienriesen3535 it's only available for MacOS so it's not viable as long as Apple keeps gatekeeping it
many like me prefer to have good hardware at a decent price instead the overpriced stuff that Apple sells 😬
Take a look at Cavalry, total focus on 2d motion graphics. I use both AE and Cavalry for motion graphics but some things that takes a couple on minutes in AE to prep and do, takes like a second in Cavalry when you learn the layout.
I'm shocked that Adobe just have implemented that which Element 3D was able to do 10 years ago. Just goes to show how talented VCopilot team is!
I was never able to get my head around Element 3D so I went straight to C4D and never looked back. But I just tested AE's new 3D feature, for simple animation and textures it's pretty damn good. If AE can implement more texture control then I can see myself using this a lot.
Or how lazy AE team is
@@polystormstudiome too. The tutorials were very vague and there was no support.
I have to say, E3D from 10 years ago still looks better than this!
I still prefer element 3d because of its amazing shading abilities, and environmental abilities
Amazing work Jake as always thanks for this tutorial
Super happy to see this, i only wish it was sooner! Testing it out now :D
Oh man, you saved my day. Thank you very much!
Wowww, this is big news! Appreciate having your videos as my After Effects news source, always excellent.
Oh man! This is awesome! Exciting stuff, especially for someone like me who's trying to introduce 3D to my workflow. Great video! Thank you bro.
thank you please keep going... I like how you go deep into it thx again
I have been waiting 20 years for this.
thanks for this video! it helped a lot
I do a lot of animations with cameras within AE to show maps on a virtual table. I’m so excited to be able to introduce the odd 3D element like a compass or something say on the table.
Yes! That's a great application.
Great overview. Thank you.
Thanks. I will need to play with this. Downloading the beta right now.
That “Calculations” is probably the best thing I have learned from AE in years (been also years since I have used it)… so many times that I just ended up pre-comping, duplicating and whatnot just to get exactly what Calculations does 🤦♂️
Calculation is a magic trick, thanks for that!
Thanks Jake for always doing amazing and helpful videos!
Right back at you!
Three of my fav creators dropping videos all at once! Sleep can wait!
Haha been a busy hour for motion design! @@lukegordonharris
Awesome. Thank you
Good luck with 3D in after effects.
Have this in mind: Native layers like "Shape layers" in 2D take insane amount of computing power to work on Full reso preview. Now imagine all that in 3D.
Believe it or not the 3d models perform better in mercury 3d than shape layers do in the standard renderer.
What potatoe are you working on?
Excellent!
Mh. Just stumbled into this video and what I noticed is that your studio / head lighting is really well done 👌
Hey, thanks!
Wonderful
Great overview Jake! Still not entirely sure when I'd be using this sort of half baked set of features from the AE team but neat nonetheless. Excited to see where we are in terms of development on this in the not too distant future
This is a very welcome addition, but Element 3D is still king if you ask me. Much faster render time + custom texture from a composition + instancing ability + ability to break down model into pieces etc etc
The dream would be for Adobe just to buy and implement E3D
Why would that be a dream? Video copilot is doing a great job with the integration, I think Adobe would ruin it to be honest
@@jppelc8594 kind of agree with that. Adobe can easily ruin a great product by intoducing it's code and "features" which nobody needs, thus making it work as unstable as AE. Currently if your AE crashes there is a good chance E3D will hold things together just long enough so you can save the project xD
Onse Skype was the king of voice chat. Then Microsoft bought it...
Amazing!
Thanks Jake! Great breakdown of the new 3D features in AE! It’s great to know the developers at Adobe are working so hard on this. It does feel like this version is just the very beginning. Does this mean the Cinema 4D renderer becomes obsolete? I’m wondering whether you would ever need to switch from Mercury 3D to Cinema 4D renderers, or whether they just duplicate each other. Also, where does the default HDRI live? I noticed before you imported your own HDRI there was no layer for the default HDRI. What if you want to make adjustments to the settings of the default environment? How do you access that?
Also, I’d love to see a tutorial from you where you light a 3D model using AE lights, not an HDRI.
Great overview, Jake!
Thanks bud!
Спб огромное за урок - ваш труд - очень интересно. Начал недавно изучать AE и пока что не очень понимаю все /с большим трудом/, но уроки очень нравятся. Низкий поклон вам;
Thanks Jake!! you have some of THE BEST after effects tutorials! Even Skillshare doesnt compete 🔥🔥🔥✊✊
Thank you! Though a lot of my teaching is on Skillshare :D
whaaat? Ok now I feel dumb LOL - Im going to look for it
now hahaha @@JakeInMotion
the best part was calculation which was i never knew . thanks for that for creating matte . rest is in developing phase and it good to know
Hey! Impressive lights in your room.. it's like to see a 3D art!
That calculations trick is 🔥!!!!
It's such a useful hack!
@@JakeInMotionThat calculation trick is very interesting indeed. I wonder if this isn't actually the workaround way to apply masks on 3D layers without the need to have the mask aligned to the very same z-space pixel position than the 3D layer.. Might sound confusing tho
I'd been using Compound Arithmetic to achieve the same. Calculations has more options, but I feel like those aren't needed here - is there another advantage I'm not thinking about?
CA also saves you the trouble of adjusting the second layer's Opacity, at least.
Sometimes when working with 3D its frustrating when I want to do a small thing (like adding a photo of a cherry to the ice cream) and I have to do so many tedious steps(like importing a plane, adding a material, making sure the size of the image matches the plane, adjust the orientation and so on) and I wished there would be a feature where I could just import a png and place it there. After Effects is already good with 2D layers, I think if they develop 3D features that could produce even decent renders, it would make AE so powerful. I don't know of any tool in the market that has a better 2D 3D workflow transition than Blender(With its Grease Pencil). Let me know if you guys know of any better tools for this. Thank you Jake for explaining these features.
excited to try it out!
Let me know how you like it!
This is exciting I use blender and wanted to use element 3d but never got around to learn it, but now probably i don't have to it would be cool to just use after effects for that.
Awesome, thanks
Great content !!!
I used to play with Element 3D almost 7/8 years ago. Still a killer tool
Indeed and I’m still using it.
thank you bro
Integrating with substance will be great feature in future.
Although this is great, I think it’s absurd that the AE team spends its time on these kind of things. As if the software is mature… meanwhile a lot of the basic things don’t work or are annoyingly complicated. Timeline folders? That’s way overdue right? How about a normal way to loop a layer without having to go ‘enable time remapping > shorten by one frame > option click on a stopwatch > write a case-sensitive expression that you always forget’… I mean, how can you explain that to anyone… the software is made by developers, not by designers. There’s still no real alternative (mainly because of the plug-in ecosystem), but jeez, I would switch in a split second.
Timeline folders are pre-compositions
@@TheKoolcat but you can’t fold out precomps in your timeline, they’re a separate composition. I just mean groups like in the photoshop layers panel, or any other timeline video editor. Being able to collapse and expand several layers to tidy things up. You know what I mean.
Hello Dear
Do You Have Any Courses Connect Between 3d Models And After Effects?
Your Explanation Is Beautiful👏
Awesome feature
Il marche super bien mrc encore une fois
Wowwww. This is awesome.
Great Update ✅
Hi there! Between this video and your Blender+ChatGPT videos, out of curiosity: what's your workflow between Blender and AE? More precisely, do you just send out models and camera/light information to AE, or do you do all your compositing in the 3D app first? I'm curious to what the workflow of someone that navigates AE with his hands tied to his back looks like.
If not enough to entice you to make a video on it, do you have any resources to recommend on this topic?
Thanks!! :)
So informative .. but I stucked in a point, how could I make the shadow of the 3D object appears when I use camera tracking (shadow catcher)?
it will be kind if you can give a little help.
It sounds new Amazing added features to AE. Hope this 3d feature will encourage AE users to use it❤
Nice...just wondering if the AE beta supports animated 3D models like character animations
If you have Adobe After Effects you also have a basic Cinema 4D app included.
Hey Jake! great tut.
Does anyone know if you can import an animated 3D file into AE, for example using the Mograph effectors in Cinema 4D as of now looks like you have to do the animations in AE.
That was amazing. Liked and sub’d. Thanks for sharing!
Question: if I install an Adobe beta app, do I/can I delete the full version so I’m not taking up unnecessary disk space?
You can have both installed at the same time. I wouldn't recommend uninstalling the public version just in case you start to get crashes on the beta version.
@@JakeInMotion good point. Thanks 🙏
Bro, do you have a phd in After Effects release notes or what? Thanks so much. Excited to use this.
Yes yes really cool. But i'm morr curious what transition you used at 1:08 from far to close up :D Looks really cool. It's not a straight zoom in but rather a slight perspektive change, isn't it? :)
Nope, just standard scale and position keyframes :D. It probably looks different because I physically leaned towards the camera at the same time.
Its looks like a dolly zoom/vertigo effect. Can easily be made
So happy it took Adobe 846,992 yrs to make an actual feature update. On any app, at, all.
This could potentially be a great thing. I used Element 3D for years and it was great for 3D text and and 3d objects when you are going to have a ton of revisions and a million versions that have to be done quickly. But it has become so buggy as to be unusable. I have been looking for an alternative ever since. Round tripping to C4D just to change text gets cumbersome. The Helium AE plugin doesn't seem that flexible yet from the demos I've played with. So I really have my fingers crossed for this.
It'll be slow because it's in AE. Have a look at Notch if you do a lot of 3d motion graphics.
Have you tried it? I did a test on a simple phone but I have no complaints about the render time, even with force motion blur. @@casinowilhelm1517
My Main Man Jake does it again 👍🏿
i do wanna use AF only as a real time render but then again UE4 /5 can be used for the same too
Clearly After Effects will never replace Blender or C4D. But even still, this new feature might be a great option when the workflow needs to be a little faster than a full traditional 3D pipeline.
Absolutely!
After Effects 24.1 (official release) now supports 3D models natively. It was released today.
Blackmagic Design recently added USD support to DaVinci Resolve 18.5. How does it compare to Adobe's recent changes? Can Blackmagic Design keep up? The main reason why I like DaVinci Resolve is you only pay once and you get to use it forever, including updates. Adobe is by subscription only, and a single year subscription is more than a lifetime license for DaVinci Resolve.
Finally... I'm waiting for this since 2012 element 3d release
It is good anyway should include this from years even I am using top 3d software but this is just time saving!
The 3D bin tooltip you spoke about, has that always been the case in Classic 3D as well? It's a great tip
I'm not sure when it was added, but it is part of the public AE 2023 version.
it'd be good to see how to integrate this workflow with classic 3D stuff like motion design elements. Are we having to pre-render these and then switch renderers to integrate it into a longer form explainer for instance? is Mercury just a Classic 2.0, making Classic no longer needed? Would be great to get some clarity on that
All standard 3d layers (2.5d) still work in mercury, they just don't support the HDR lighting or shadow casting/receiving yet. I bet you the dev team is working on that though and I hope mercury 3d becomes the standard engine.
@@JakeInMotion Sweet, sounds like a major step up. E3D is showing its age now with every graphics driver killing it a little more. Excited about this!
Fantastic
Just WOW
This is nice, I can see this getting some limited use, good for animatics that need to look a bit clearer for the imagination inclinded.
So far it looks like an experimental feature. Bringing back the capabilities of the old ray trace - real reflections, refractions, camera defocus, etc., and it would be a useful working tool.
And for now it will work for 3D titles, it’s more convenient than the element3D and quite fast.
Super useful for scenes with simple materials and lighting-minimal round trip. Interesting the supported model type is a web centric format. 🤔
It should be noted GLTF isn’t a format you’d like to use if your materials need multiple reflection bounces and transparent/refractive surfaces are a no go.
About damn time Adobe! Great walkthrough btw. Element 3D hasn't been properly supported for a while now and has been getting more and more buggy as I got new CPUs and GPUs. You would expect better hardware to make a 3D plugin work faster but no....and the updates to the plugin have been abysmal (if at all). This is a small step forward for Adobe but an important one. I don't expect Cinema 4D + RS quality or the a full suite of Cinema's options. But is it really that difficult for them to let you make a few primitives that cast shadows?
This is such a big update for AE
i just want an update to element 3d lol
Don't hold your breath 😆
Only if the lord Andrew Kramer would listen xD
id say just learn blender or C4D and do it from then haha... the current workflow of this native 3D in AE is unintuitive
It has a long way to go for sure. And yes, you should know how to use a true 3d package. BUT if you could pull off a shot in AE without having to render out of Blender or C4D, I think having the option would be great.
Me too, it’s sad that AK just totally abandoned it I’m sure there’s more into the story but soon AE probably won’t support it anymore.
a great future is commingg
this looks like it could be great for simple 2.5d style 3d animation. Hope Adobe does more than this though
Im importing GLB files that have textures from blender but the textures aren't showing when I import to After Effects, please help.
did you find a solution? i’m experiencing the same thing
they will connect this with substance modeller, conencting 3d to 2d with adobe subscription.
Convoluted process. Is 2023 I would expect a much more streamlined workflow.
Am I missing something or is Adobe Stock 3D assets only for Dimensions which needs a separate subscription that the CC?
when i import the 3d model into after effect beta and creating composition, not seeing my 3d model help
Is there anyone trying to import 3D objects with Cel shade material and shade and toon render setting? The cel shade material didn't come with the import. I have already exported them in obj and glb file type.
theses changements are still not available for after effects without the beta of 2023 and 2024 ?
Still tryoyto figure out why I am missing the Send to After effects option. Only send to ps for me
How did you export your glb models from blender? My material and texture isn't included with the model.
did you find a solution? i’m experiencing the same thing
@@ErinPhoebe my solution may not be yours but it turned out my problem was that I had multiple places on my mesh that I needed to attach my texture to. It would either export my model with a partial texture or none at all.
Doesn't glb/gltf files also support baked animation keyframe data? Does that also come into AE successfully?? That would be crazy cool...
It does, but the beta is just taking the first frame of anything animated right now. It can pull light and camera data though!
@JakeInMotion dang... would be so cool if one could use specifically all your Blender 'animation' curves & tools & whatnot and just render & comp in AE.
I've tried bringing a GLB file in and in doesn't work, AE 24.1 and on the beta, pls help.
It just shows a black composition, I can see the outline, but none of the 3D models are shaking. Any help would be great.
It's gonna make easy vfx easier... Nicee
Hi, Why I can't opening GLB objects in After Effects and beta? I'm using last versions and I was opening in Beta since 2 months ago. Please help me this about :(
Thank you for the excellent video! 🙌 However, when I attempt to use it, the screen goes entirely black in After Effects. Is there anyone who might know the reason behind this? I'd greatly appreciate some assistance 😄 I'm eager to dive in and start exploring with this!
Making sure your GPU drivers are up to date is where I'd start troubleshooting!
nice
If you're going to need other 3d software to export glb, why not render it there instead of fighting with after effects 3d renderer?