This "Accu" series seems to be the next evolutionary step from the Edge series - a line that was already marketed to be the most accurate rival. Hence, it makes sense that these blasters get great accuracy, even with old fashioned rival rounds. What I am wondering is if the new accu-rounds improve the performance of older rival blasters at all.
@@dgresham2729 I brought it up because it basically carries over. They were pretty much the same on the Pathfinder. I've tried them in my Kronos and didn't notice them being any more or less accurate, but I don't have a chronograph so I can't say what the FPS is.
Agreed, as well as some older springers. Like the Hades or Artemis that were the notorious inaccurate ones. Or at least they seemed less accurate than others. I would like to see if the rounds are truly better or if there is something to the “optimized” barrel.
@@cside19 I will disagree that the Hades is especially inaccurate, but it is also probably a great one to use anyways, since it's probably the highest capacity springer
The thing with the grouping test is that, all the best shots with accurounds were all on the same area. the best shots with og rival were all around the head.
Could be the larger NERF logo on the newer rounds screwing up the trajectory; nice branding but fails the common sense test and what these rounds aim to do... Agree the OG Rival rounds look like a more consistent group.
@@jaydad1227 bought the Pathfinder and fired a bunch of OG and new balls down my apartment hallway. OG definitely is better. New ones tend to backspin too much and overshoot
Do you think that the new rival rounds would affect the older rival blasters accuracy? Or is it just the new barrel of the fate that makes both round equally good
So sleek!! I can’t imagine what this would look with painted!! Maybe like a red fade that would be awesome. Also, is NERF finally paying attention to us now!?
- Price - Ergonomics - Auto breech opening - Literal Firestrike internals (yes, there's a catch with a catch spring!) - Easy short dart modding (shoved 6" of Kuryaka Barrel into mine and it hits 150-160FPS~) It's a win! Got the Pathfinder inbound too, hopefully more stock mods and more grip options beyond Drac's offerings pop up as well~
putting a single steel bb in the middle of rival rounds has done well for my outdoor accuracy. not sure if it'd be allowed at events or whatever but my friend and I shoot each other with them and it doesn't feel different, just seems to help for straight shots at longer distances.
I prefer the look of the knockout but it’s hard to argue with results! Great blaster. The black side fins it has are a tad long in my opinion but goodness does this thing perform
To me, and i have pretty small hands because im a child, the Nerf Elite 2.0 Slyshot had one-of-the BEST feeling grips of all time. Literally, i bought it for four bucks because it looked cute and then i held it and i didnt put it down for the entire day. Thats how good.
@@The_Soviet_Cat_2233 There were rumors that a planned line for 2018 is about revamping the entire Dart Tag line to be on par with today's standards It obviously never went anywhere but recently leaks of a new logo for it has been released, and one of them showed a theoretical NERF HALF DART
@@boid9761 NERF HALF DART? Oh boy... I hope those rumors are true, because we don't have dart zone over here and a 40 dollar shipping makes it kinda not worth it.
The Fate is unironically one of my favorite Rival blasters. I never liked the Knockout as much as a lot of people, but the Fate is one of the comfiest and easiest blasters to load for me.
I'm glad Hasbro is supporting someone like you, that consistently works hard to put out videos. Given the breach looks/functions like the Flex, can you fit 2 rounds in it for a shotgun shot? (Or is it even worth it, if it's so accurate?)
The only thing that sucks about Hasbro doing “plastic-free packaging” is with Transformers now being in open-window boxes. …which means they’re easier to steal, as people can now just tear the figure out, leaving an empty box on the shelf
From an outside perspective, it seems like the accu-rival rounds are just another Hasbro Gimmick and the blaster itself is what makes the line more accurate, not the rounds. The grouping of original Rival rounds was better than that of these new "more accurate" ones.
When saying original rival flies off after a certain distance, shouldn't accuracy testing be done at longer ranges then? Rival was always pretty good at shorter ranges. Just something I thought. Accurival might be more significantly different at longer ranges. Edit: I said range a lot 😂
Thanks for the testing my dude! I just bought two of these on Prime for under $5 a pop. Kind of funny how the gun doesn’t seem to want to shoot the head, but will group tightly all around it 😂
I found thar I needed a little bit of upward pull on the t to get the barrel to release. Every time it failed was when I was trying to be careful to pull ot parallel to the shell.
Basically a knockout but the plunger placed on the horizontal position, and you can duel weld if you have another one, also it can use any rival balls, and even can take a k26 spring. So looking forward to getting one of these for a decent price, unless you’re looking for a good deal at Walmart via rollbacks.
Having a couple thousand rounds new in box ready for battle when covid is over and I'm at 10:30 sweating. I sure hope the old rounds are just as good. Yyyyyesss!!! Looking good! (keeps watching) 15:12 He doesn't think there's a difference!!!! YEEEESS!! Thanks, Walcom!
@@WalcomS7 Haha, trust me, I was just hoping for some sort of justification for buying my rival rounds and I got it. Doesn't have to be good methods XD
if you put a return spring and a cath like a "slide relise" i think you could be able to like, prime the blaster put a round in and relise that "slide lock" to close the breach
In my knockout the first thing I did was opened it up and removed the spring for the muzzle so I just had to unleash the latch and tilt the blaster back to close it
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I’m no genius but wouldn’t the new round be even more accurate if there wasn’t a big nerf logo molded on it? I get branding, but you’re not getting the full potential right? Maybe it’s not a big deal
The reason that Hasbro does not just switch completely over to the Accustrike line is because the Accustike darts cant shoot as far. Also, with having more lines Hasbro makes more profit off their blasters(*main reason) It would be cool if nerf made a Accustrike line (possibly rival?) that would shoot just as far but also remain as accurate as the current Accustrike darts. Although considering the profit Hasbro gets that is not very likely to happen.
I like this line a lot. I like the power of the pistol, seems it shoots harder than the usual Rival springers. I am happy Hasbro continued with new Rival blasters. The new ammo does not seem more accurate than the old one, but I like the way it looks. Also, the optimized barrel claim seems a bit silly, don't you think so?
After using primarily adge and accu rounds, I'm covinced that the accu rounds may carry a bit more distance but they aren't more accurate, they are more predictable (if that makes sense at all). This series of rival blasters, however, do seem to shoot more accurately with any rival round, I think the "specialized barrel" might reduce wind turbulence with small pinhole vents near the muzzle. All things considered, the accu rival rounds are improved if not necessarily in accuracy, mainly because of the membrane that doesn't seem pick up as much dust, dirt and moisture. My original 3 that came with the fate are still practically like new.
I’m not sure do you notice, everytime when hasbro release a new line starting from the last year, theres only three blasters like mega xl, hyper and this new line……. What’s happening?
So was away from the hobby for a bit and picked up a couple of Fates for $10. Wow! This thing is sweet for $10! Great ergonomics, still Rival performance. I don't know if it is quite a worthy successor to the Knockout (probably my favorite pistol platform), but it's darn good! So much cool mod potential. I think giving up a bit of plunger volume for the grip ergo was worth it!
Nice to see Rival rise, Rise! Nerf been in a slump lately nice to see them picking up pace again. I'd prefer basic release of a Jolt, Triad and Firestrike versions, muh bread n butter atleast in the first wave.
I mean I don't know ~what~ I was hoping for with it but I kinda don't like that its basically a single shot while being rather chunky and sizeable for what it is
I've watched 5 or 6 of your videos tonight and I subscribed because I like how you approach these reviews and such. However, I think there's a huge flaw in your testing method for this one. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you don't seem to be accounting for the increased accuracy/better grouping you will naturally get the more you practice in that session of testing. In other words, since you fired the blue ammo first, and then the yellow ammo, your increased accuracy with the latter could just be the result of having 10 rounds of practice with this blaster that you didn't have with the blue ammo. In the future for this kinda test comparing ammo I'd recommend switching back and forth more (so like 5 blue, 5 yellow, 5 blue, 5 yellow, 5 blue, 5 yellow) so there's a bigger sample size to draw conclusions from. And maybe have 2 targets set up, one for each ammo type? I dunno how expensive those targets are so that might not be worth it haha, but it might make each ammo's performance easier to track. Just my thoughts as a life-long but very casual Nerf enthusiast🖤
The thought did cross my mind and I wish between tests I would have swapped the order, but repeating it since then (and knowing I'm doing another video anyways), I still haven't come to a clear conclusion that these are superior in terms of accuracy (and I feel the outside flight path/range tests corroborate that). In the follow up video, I'm going to include data points from other shooters as well. I just need a break from Rival for a while.
I don't understand why Nerf keeps coming out with pistols that aren't better than the Kronos. For an extra $5-$7, you have a pistol that can hold 5 rounds.
I may get the Fate at some point just for plinking. The Vision is highly unlikely. Pathfinder looks great! Unfortunately I don't have any spare magazines and the one that came with it has a weak tab on the top. Will decide to randomly open and launch blue balls all over the place when attempting to load or put it in the magwell. Also had some glue on it for no apparent reason.
Those blue balls (giggidy) from your discription anyway seem closer to the x shot chaos rounds. The smooth barreling in these new ones along with having good sights look to at the very least not hurting the accuracy. The barrels of my Hades definitely have too much going on, and the cylindrical shape along with it's vertical grip can lead to it being held less than perfectly level... Which is what I have always attributed to it's off centre shots when compared to other rival blasters like the Roundhouse.
LOVE HOW I UPLOAD THE VIDEO AND DIDN'T NOTICE THAT OBVIOUS EDITING ERROR @#$*I. Doesn't change the overall video at all...Almost there. I'm one dude.
I'm three groundhogs in a trenchcoat.
wazzup walcom!
@@homelee665 I love you so much.
I didn’t even notice it!
lol doesn't matter, love your work, Cam. You are my fav youtuber, and i watch everything you post right away.
This "Accu" series seems to be the next evolutionary step from the Edge series - a line that was already marketed to be the most accurate rival. Hence, it makes sense that these blasters get great accuracy, even with old fashioned rival rounds. What I am wondering is if the new accu-rounds improve the performance of older rival blasters at all.
Pretty sure they would
@@boid9761 I've yet to see anyone actually test them in other blasters.
In Drac's Pathfinder review he used both the accu rounds and standard. They performed almost identically aside from standard had some lower FPS.
@@swolpertinger5004 I want to see if the accu-rounds perform differently in OLDER rival blasters.
@@dgresham2729 I brought it up because it basically carries over. They were pretty much the same on the Pathfinder. I've tried them in my Kronos and didn't notice them being any more or less accurate, but I don't have a chronograph so I can't say what the FPS is.
I feel like you should test with a flywheel like perses, that way we can get more results about the consistency of the new ammo
Agreed, as well as some older springers. Like the Hades or Artemis that were the notorious inaccurate ones. Or at least they seemed less accurate than others. I would like to see if the rounds are truly better or if there is something to the “optimized” barrel.
I would imagine it would be really really good
What about some bad blasters lile the Helix?
@@boid9761 I wonder what difference you would see using the new rounds with the curve shot feature. If any.
@@cside19 I will disagree that the Hades is especially inaccurate, but it is also probably a great one to use anyways, since it's probably the highest capacity springer
The thing with the grouping test is that, all the best shots with accurounds were all on the same area. the best shots with og rival were all around the head.
Could be the larger NERF logo on the newer rounds screwing up the trajectory; nice branding but fails the common sense test and what these rounds aim to do... Agree the OG Rival rounds look like a more consistent group.
@@jaydad1227 bought the Pathfinder and fired a bunch of OG and new balls down my apartment hallway. OG definitely is better. New ones tend to backspin too much and overshoot
More aim assist on the og rounds
Do you think that the new rival rounds would affect the older rival blasters accuracy? Or is it just the new barrel of the fate that makes both round equally good
@qtsssim k thanks
i cant get over how stylish they look please god hasbro keep this aesthetic
0:59 And that's why Rival works better for close range blasters like shotguns and maybe automatic blasters as well.
So sleek!! I can’t imagine what this would look with painted!! Maybe like a red fade that would be awesome. Also, is NERF finally paying attention to us now!?
we just need a fate with a laser, and it becomes literally a rival nitefinder
did you mean nightfinder? sorry to be 🤓 but i dont want you to get butchered in the replies
@@bred007 It's always been named the Nite Finder, not Nightfinder.
@@D4rkcjinsc2 sorry then
AHEY MODDERS!!! we have a job for you...
- Price
- Ergonomics
- Auto breech opening
- Literal Firestrike internals (yes, there's a catch with a catch spring!)
- Easy short dart modding (shoved 6" of Kuryaka Barrel into mine and it hits 150-160FPS~)
It's a win! Got the Pathfinder inbound too, hopefully more stock mods and more grip options beyond Drac's offerings pop up as well~
putting a single steel bb in the middle of rival rounds has done well for my outdoor accuracy. not sure if it'd be allowed at events or whatever but my friend and I shoot each other with them and it doesn't feel different, just seems to help for straight shots at longer distances.
I prefer the look of the knockout but it’s hard to argue with results! Great blaster. The black side fins it has are a tad long in my opinion but goodness does this thing perform
I like the who not having to pull down and slap it back up. It takes four steps to fire the damn blaster.
Great attention to detail using fresh rounds. Thank you for the extra bit of excellence on top of all the other upgrades you've done recently.
Man, I wish we could get these blasters in Europe.
US Master race B)
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French Amazon has the Nerf Rival Vision avalible so som of them have made it over the pond
@@Iazibones Europe Asia Master race B)
To me, and i have pretty small hands because im a child, the Nerf Elite 2.0 Slyshot had one-of-the BEST feeling grips of all time. Literally, i bought it for four bucks because it looked cute and then i held it and i didnt put it down for the entire day. Thats how good.
I love how no one noticed the OTHER ACCUSTRIKE RIVAL GUN😂, literally on the desk next to him in the demo range👆🏽
I'm now tempted to pick up a pair of Takedowns with that lever-action mod and a bunch of the new Rival rounds.
As someone who has this gun I have never owned a nerf gun where the sights are actually useful. Great blaster
Having finished the video, yeah I'm going to want a couple of these.
I still can’t believe that nerf is making advanced blasters…like actually improved from prior models
This, and the rumors of Dart Tag Pro basically means that Hasbro is starting to pick up speed
Dart Tag Pro? Tell me more about that!
@@The_Soviet_Cat_2233 There were rumors that a planned line for 2018 is about revamping the entire Dart Tag line to be on par with today's standards
It obviously never went anywhere but recently leaks of a new logo for it has been released, and one of them showed a theoretical NERF HALF DART
@@boid9761
NERF HALF DART? Oh boy... I hope those rumors are true, because we don't have dart zone over here and a 40 dollar shipping makes it kinda not worth it.
The Fate is unironically one of my favorite Rival blasters. I never liked the Knockout as much as a lot of people, but the Fate is one of the comfiest and easiest blasters to load for me.
I'm glad Hasbro is supporting someone like you, that consistently works hard to put out videos.
Given the breach looks/functions like the Flex, can you fit 2 rounds in it for a shotgun shot? (Or is it even worth it, if it's so accurate?)
Finally. A rival nitefinder.
The only thing that sucks about Hasbro doing “plastic-free packaging” is with Transformers now being in open-window boxes.
…which means they’re easier to steal, as people can now just tear the figure out, leaving an empty box on the shelf
4:06 Coop772 fans: *dies from funni*
No likes and replies? Lemme fix that.
The boss battle music really makes this one of my new favorite nerf channel.
those are some accurate balls...
From an outside perspective, it seems like the accu-rival rounds are just another Hasbro Gimmick and the blaster itself is what makes the line more accurate, not the rounds. The grouping of original Rival rounds was better than that of these new "more accurate" ones.
Your wall is crazy. Nice to see people keep boxes. I use to but adulting gave me no space with all the things I do.
I'll be shoving the new Bawls in my perses to see if there's any difference
FYI, I posted some Nerf Memes on Walcom’s Discord that had actual live rounds in them, and I’m sorry for that.
I put in a SSWI full length darts barrel on my Fate and now can front load both full length and half length darts easily.
This blaster has a potential to be a mag fed carbine
denser with increased dimpled area like a golfball for less drag might be the reason
I just picked one of these today for $10 at Walmart and am going to convert it to short dart and possibly mag fed
I like the open face boxes. You can try the grip before you buy
When saying original rival flies off after a certain distance, shouldn't accuracy testing be done at longer ranges then? Rival was always pretty good at shorter ranges. Just something I thought. Accurival might be more significantly different at longer ranges.
Edit: I said range a lot 😂
Thanks for the testing my dude! I just bought two of these on Prime for under $5 a pop. Kind of funny how the gun doesn’t seem to want to shoot the head, but will group tightly all around it 😂
I found thar I needed a little bit of upward pull on the t to get the barrel to release. Every time it failed was when I was trying to be careful to pull ot parallel to the shell.
Hasbro's marketing department in overdrive. Not gonna exchang my knockout for this.
Basically a knockout but the plunger placed on the horizontal position, and you can duel weld if you have another one, also it can use any rival balls, and even can take a k26 spring. So looking forward to getting one of these for a decent price, unless you’re looking for a good deal at Walmart via rollbacks.
Great vid. Good review WOW on hasbro sending to you. I personally am excited about this line. Especially the pathfinder.
Having a couple thousand rounds new in box ready for battle when covid is over and I'm at 10:30 sweating. I sure hope the old rounds are just as good. Yyyyyesss!!! Looking good! (keeps watching) 15:12 He doesn't think there's a difference!!!! YEEEESS!! Thanks, Walcom!
I would take my testing with a considerably amount of salt. I am an idiot and my methods are flawed.
@@WalcomS7 Haha, trust me, I was just hoping for some sort of justification for buying my rival rounds and I got it. Doesn't have to be good methods XD
That guy is gonna make such a cool inline half-dart 'snub-nose' cyber-shotty!
I want a BLASTER that shoots FOAM rail-road spikes.... that's what I want !!! (This one will do for now) I like it !
27th I like the nerf accu-strike line it looks snazzy it is cool and has a new snazzy colour scheme I’m probably gonna buy the vision and pathfinder
if you put a return spring and a cath like a "slide relise" i think you could be able to like, prime the blaster put a round in and relise that "slide lock" to close the breach
In my knockout the first thing I did was opened it up and removed the spring for the muzzle so I just had to unleash the latch and tilt the blaster back to close it
Would be interesting if you clamp the blasters down for the comparison
12:37 nice
Looking forward to your review on the vision, hope it's at least as good as the fate.
I can't wait until I get my brass mod for the Fate! Also ordered more accu rounds!
Remove the safety thing in the plunger tube, give it a elite barrel, load a half dart in it will shoot upwards of 200ft pretty much stock
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I love how the new line of rival look
I’m no genius but wouldn’t the new round be even more accurate if there wasn’t a big nerf logo molded on it? I get branding, but you’re not getting the full potential right? Maybe it’s not a big deal
The reason that Hasbro does not just switch completely over to the Accustrike line is because the Accustike darts cant shoot as far. Also, with having more lines Hasbro makes more profit off their blasters(*main reason) It would be cool if nerf made a Accustrike line (possibly rival?) that would shoot just as far but also remain as accurate as the current Accustrike darts. Although considering the profit Hasbro gets that is not very likely to happen.
i got two at ollie's for 5$ each, truly a steal for such a nice blaster
I like this line a lot. I like the power of the pistol, seems it shoots harder than the usual Rival springers. I am happy Hasbro continued with new Rival blasters. The new ammo does not seem more accurate than the old one, but I like the way it looks. Also, the optimized barrel claim seems a bit silly, don't you think so?
After using primarily adge and accu rounds, I'm covinced that the accu rounds may carry a bit more distance but they aren't more accurate, they are more predictable (if that makes sense at all). This series of rival blasters, however, do seem to shoot more accurately with any rival round, I think the "specialized barrel" might reduce wind turbulence with small pinhole vents near the muzzle.
All things considered, the accu rival rounds are improved if not necessarily in accuracy, mainly because of the membrane that doesn't seem pick up as much dust, dirt and moisture. My original 3 that came with the fate are still practically like new.
Weird rival gets an Acustrike ammo all these years later when all the other lines have lost theirs...
Very cyberpunk look with these blasters , I love it
Imagine the perses plus the new accu rounds
Turn this into the M6D magnum from halo.
here I am just " hey I have that shirt!"
My seeing eye dog whispers in my ear that every rival round I shoot across the field is dead on target. He'd never lie to me.
I’m not sure do you notice, everytime when hasbro release a new line starting from the last year, theres only three blasters like mega xl, hyper and this new line……. What’s happening?
Idk
blaster go spinnnnnn!
Great video, Walcom! Desperately, eagerly awaiting your review of the Vision!
Walcom, did you see the direct? Seems relevant to your shirt
Very relevant
Complete coincidence, but I did skim through the direct while editing. Some neat things, most excited for Xenoblade 3.
@@WalcomS7 aye! I'm excited for Xenoblade 3 too
I need another shotgun in the accuracy series
So was away from the hobby for a bit and picked up a couple of Fates for $10. Wow! This thing is sweet for $10! Great ergonomics, still Rival performance. I don't know if it is quite a worthy successor to the Knockout (probably my favorite pistol platform), but it's darn good! So much cool mod potential. I think giving up a bit of plunger volume for the grip ergo was worth it!
Nice to see Rival rise, Rise! Nerf been in a slump lately nice to see them picking up pace again. I'd prefer basic release of a Jolt, Triad and Firestrike versions, muh bread n butter atleast in the first wave.
I love the looks of the blasters
Fyi, apparently older Rival 12 round magazines don't work well with the Pathfinder.
I'm excited for this!
Thanks Walcom!!
they should make it so the bullets curve a bit upwards for more distance
I mean I don't know ~what~ I was hoping for with it but I kinda don't like that its basically a single shot while being rather chunky and sizeable for what it is
Ooooooh the splatoon shirt is back
Very nice, I forsee many kits for that thing
I've watched 5 or 6 of your videos tonight and I subscribed because I like how you approach these reviews and such.
However, I think there's a huge flaw in your testing method for this one. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you don't seem to be accounting for the increased accuracy/better grouping you will naturally get the more you practice in that session of testing.
In other words, since you fired the blue ammo first, and then the yellow ammo, your increased accuracy with the latter could just be the result of having 10 rounds of practice with this blaster that you didn't have with the blue ammo.
In the future for this kinda test comparing ammo I'd recommend switching back and forth more (so like 5 blue, 5 yellow, 5 blue, 5 yellow, 5 blue, 5 yellow) so there's a bigger sample size to draw conclusions from.
And maybe have 2 targets set up, one for each ammo type? I dunno how expensive those targets are so that might not be worth it haha, but it might make each ammo's performance easier to track.
Just my thoughts as a life-long but very casual Nerf enthusiast🖤
The thought did cross my mind and I wish between tests I would have swapped the order, but repeating it since then (and knowing I'm doing another video anyways), I still haven't come to a clear conclusion that these are superior in terms of accuracy (and I feel the outside flight path/range tests corroborate that). In the follow up video, I'm going to include data points from other shooters as well. I just need a break from Rival for a while.
I don't understand why Nerf keeps coming out with pistols that aren't better than the Kronos. For an extra $5-$7, you have a pistol that can hold 5 rounds.
I think the color scheme could be better, but they do look awesome
I may get the Fate at some point just for plinking. The Vision is highly unlikely. Pathfinder looks great! Unfortunately I don't have any spare magazines and the one that came with it has a weak tab on the top. Will decide to randomly open and launch blue balls all over the place when attempting to load or put it in the magwell. Also had some glue on it for no apparent reason.
So it's I rival nightfiner of firestrike or that elite 2.0 type of blaster with that prime
As pistols go, I'll take my hyper 40
I love your channel.
Can they just re-release the perses, I can't find one for decent price anywhere 😭
My nerf fate only got 2 balls instead of 3 balls
Just an hour ago I thought of Nerf and said: Ye Rival's dead
Me later: *gets slapped in the face with this vid*
Ive got a vision on pre order, been awhile since i got a nerf branded blaster
Those blue balls (giggidy) from your discription anyway seem closer to the x shot chaos rounds. The smooth barreling in these new ones along with having good sights look to at the very least not hurting the accuracy. The barrels of my Hades definitely have too much going on, and the cylindrical shape along with it's vertical grip can lead to it being held less than perfectly level... Which is what I have always attributed to it's off centre shots when compared to other rival blasters like the Roundhouse.
May I know what digital target board are you using? Where can I get 1?
This blaster looks sick!
Hopefully we can get accu ammo standardized, same for the plastic free packaging
Hopefully normal accustrike returns at some point.
wonder just how heavy these can go.
Jolly Rancher Water!
Haha Lucha bought that and the box was convenient for picking up and holding rounds
I have mixed feelings since we already have the kronos
The Fate reminds me Star Wars blaster.