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Great stuff man and thanks for sharing. You made some great points and I’ve seen some of the same things in my peers re having low levels despite eating animal products. I’m a 5-year vegan, and been running for 3. While I’m nowhere close to elite, I can firmly state that a plantbased diet is sufficient to fuel my efforts.
Your blood i easily in the top 1% percentage of top tier athletes (i’v crossed/meta analyst many). I was actually waiting to see your CRP and ALT/AST levels. I doubt nutrition is a factor in any case or problems you might be stumbling on to lately. Recovery problems also may be metabolic (adrenal/thyroid), stress related or training/rest related.
You rock! and i would like to thank you for being a long time inspiration and just down to earth real.
Hey! I'm curious as to what you mean exactly? These are pretty normal labs to my eye.
Hey Sage, your haircut makes you look all grown up. Great info that your tests came out well, Sir.
I am an endurance athlete and an MD, so perhaps my perspective has some value. There is a lot I would like to say, but I will limit my comments to just two points. First, a basic tenant of medicine, learned in medical school and unfortunately forgotten by many doctors once out in practice, is that we treat patients not numbers. I can't tell you how often I see a patient who is distressed over a blood test result, a number, and yet they have zero clinical signs or symptoms related to that abnormal result. Test results really only have significance as they relate to the history and exam of the particular patient in front of you. Another point worth mentioning is that if a blood test gives a correct measurement 95% of the time and if you get 20 different blood tests statistically 1 of them is likely to be erroneous.
So you're not a sports doctor then and your opinion is basically worth no more than the man in the street. Homework for you doc, look up "marginal gains".
Yeah Sandi (using another service) had an error trip in her B12 test. Could've been because she didn't fast though. I'm certainly not immune to the possibility of lab error. There seems to be a mix with what MDs are trained in - in terms of nutrition (since there is such a vast amount of information needed to practice general medicine)...also may depend on where you got your degree from? Thanks for the comment!
ironman tooltime orthopaedic spine surgeon here with a sub-speciality in sports medicine as well. Not sure if you were trolling but I agree with Kenneth. The only thing I would add is 1. You don’t need to be a sports doc to read and comment on blood work. 2. I would only add that ultimately and obviously we all have different bodies. If you feel like something is off get blood work done but I personally think this is only useful if you have a baseline. I think Kenneth mentioned this or worded it differently. Similar to a concussion in football when someone has a concussion, the baseline is vital if not crucial to evaluate the changes and progression in conjunction with the patients symtpoms. A post concussion evaluation is almost useless in the sense that you will never be able to tell when at peak performance unless if preliminary tests are done. Otherwise your just guessing. Also I would be cautious of doing any online test or any service you have to pay for etc you have no idea who is running the site and truly where the information is coming from.
@@ColdPlungeCam for the record I know someone personally up high at the company (AthleteBlod test) and they are quite educated and experienced (they were also a very high level runner themselves). Some really smart people working there. I can see that there is some "relative to baseline" importance as you mentioned. It's like with the bio passport that they use to help catch dopers....there is a certain amount of individual variation as well as some risk for test error/variance.
Nice haircut, sir!
Mike Wagner convict haircut.
Thank you for sharing Sir. Pro level need to fine tune...and you, you do any surface any distance so tough to spot trends. Glad your having fun❣️
Thanks for finally saying what needed to be said. Humans cant simply go from being a fast and flat marathoner to mountain runner and toggle back and forth without being relatively weak (compared to their potential) at both. Take some time and focus on one or the other! Sport specificity is king, and running 5 min/miles for a marathon has very little carryover to races that have a lot of vert and gradients steeper than 10%. There is a reason Jim Walmsley can destroy states but DNFs from UTMB, and likewise why Killian can dominate mountains but would get trashed in a major road marathon. Despite both being "running" to me they are entirely different sports.
nice video, Sage!
blood glucose at 90 might be considered a little high, as 65.0-99.00 is the normal reference range. Personally, I feel that low 80s would be better. Over 99 is pre-diabetes. What do you think ?
Great video I really want to get a blood test now to see where I’m at I’m also a vegan runner
your energy is great like always man keep it up!
Love ur vids man. Keep up the great work
Cardiac nurse here - liked your breakdown of these labs. I'm not an endurance athlete, but a fitness hobbyist and enjoyed what you said about running/lifting/Hoka....that's exactly me. Probably need to have a better diet, less beer though. Thanks for the vid.
Nurse... lol 😂
@@tdurden9532 what's wrong with that? Nurses get a lot less attention than they should!
How much does alcohol affect your body over all I maybe have 2 beers a night I weigh 150 I'm 5'8" but I just feel worn out a lot of mileage is around 70-80 mpw but I do have Hep C do you think I should have blood work done ? Thanks for all you do nurses do rock
@@tdurden9532 lol?
@@jordantucker2442 I guess two beers a night isn't bad if the weight stays off. I'd get LFTs yearly at least with an annual doctor check up just to keep an eye on your overall health.
Thanks for sharing Sage, very interesting
I just gotta say, your hair looks really good!
Very interesting. I have genetic haemochromatosis and store iron ...so i give blood donations to maintain safe levels and always know what in my blood. In a way I am glad i have it as I would be too lazy otherwise.
i find it takes me longer to recover after races than most others unless I get all my levels in that optimum range. So getting things right is important for both training, race day and afterwards.
Owen F you’ve been scammed by vampires.
At 16:45, it shows that ideal health milage range is less than 60 miles per week. I'm 52, and for example, I ran 68 miles this past week. I want to keep increasing, but I'm starting to "feel it". I think I'm going to heed your advice and keep it at 60-ish.
As always, enjoyed the video!
That's for weaklings like yourself. I do 100 miles a week
Nice video Sage! Funny fact: In Europe and South America (I don't know in other parts of the world) a glucose level of up to 110 mg/dl would be considered normal. In the USA it is up to 100 mg/dl.
Awesome video, I have long waited for such an open analysis of blood test result and kudos to you Sage for being so open and honest! For starters, I know of athletes, who run ultras 100+, 200+km and they claim a vegan lifestyle, while boasting they do not take any supplements (B12 and/or iron) and not only because of your video but I cannot agree with such misleading statements. Here are my learnings - having adopted a vegetarian life stype for some time, balancing between work, family and running at approx 100km a week (but with at least 50% coming from mountain running at 1000-2000m altitude), I developed anemia and initially hemoglobin was at 116 (normal range 140 -180 for male), B12 was at 169 (here normal range starts from 159 - ). I did take an iron supplement for 1 month and while taking it was able to actually train and do almost 90km/week (50 +miles) however, did not manage to accumulate any ferritin and hemoglobin only edged up a little after 1 month of supplementation. On the other hand, once you fall below range for hemoglobin, iron levels, hemoglobin restoration happens at a very very slow pace, it only creeps up slightly no matter what you do (hence it is very important not to fall below the min for the range). Then I switched doctors and my new one preaches eating a raw balanced diet - so along with veggies, fruit, I eat liver (you boil water, remove from hotplate and then throw in liver for 30sec only), marinate fish (marinate is only from lemon, celery, red beet, onion, etc), raw egg yolks 6-8 per day (you wash the outside of the egg, then remove the egg white, use only the yolk). Now theory is that if you process meat, yolks, liver, fish at high temp, this is when meat becomes toxic, poisons you and builds up cholesterol (bad one). It took me around 5+ months from discovery of anemia, with loads of loading and loads of eating liver, raw yolks and raw marinated fish (along with smoothies from greens etc) and 5 months later my hemoglobin got to 141 (min 140 - 180max), hematocrite is 44%, B12 is at 400, folate at max, vitamin D at max (you also get it from fish and I do a lot of sun bathing), all the vital minerals and vitamins are normal to high, cholesterol (bad) is mid range (despite eating so much liver, raw yolks), billirubin is on the low end. My case in point - I understand I have more to accomplish as far as hemoglobin, but only on DIET alone I was able to achieve more compared to supplementation (while training at the same time). I also took for 1 month a B12 supplement in the beginning but with supplements I notice they saturate your lab results, but after you come off, then it dips, from liver I was able to get much more B12 and sustain it over time. To summarize my own experience, my body reacts much better to food (raw food) compared to supplementation. This is not to say I condemn supplements, I will use them very wisely and moderately (e.g. iron and B12), and I will strive to get as much as I can from eating a balanced, raw food diet. And bottom line is I feel much better now, I was able to finish a 76km mountain race with 3000m + gain, 6 months from discovery of anemia in just under 10h which is not stellar for sure, but compared to where I was...
I would feel sick if I ate liver and eggs yolks and raw fish. I haven't eaten any organ meats at all in my life and no red meat or eggs in 7 years, and very little before that, and my ferritin has tested as high as 300
Lookin' sharp, Sage.
Coming from a nurse practitioner who regularly evaluates blood from my patients, your blood tests all look pretty great. Yes, vitamin D is a little on the low side, but I wouldn’t conclude this is impairing your performance. You could take a vit D supplement 1000 units everyday or just take 5,000 units 1-2 times weekly. Iron and b12 also are fine.
@@holyholyholy7773 Yes there are. Vitamin D3 supplements that are derived from lichen are vegan. Look up vegan vitamin D3 and you'll see
wow I have been watching you and your wife's videos for like a year now on and off,, I love to see Colorado running...but the fact that you are vegan that is extra plus...as I am too...runner vegan
They got married??!
ironman tooltime oh I don’t know I just assumed...
Don't forget to put the link to Sandi's channel in the description.
thanks for the reminder!
Great Informative video Sage!
Excellent video Sage, 👍
Great to see you keeping it open and out there. Maybe the "you have to eat meat to be successful" bunch might pipe down a bit now. Just to add I do eat meat myself. So after looking at your results, which as mentioned shouldn't be the be all and all, but have highlighted issues, have you thought about your next direction, in regards to "Any surface any time"
Isn't too much iron is really bad for you ? It's a pro-oxidant. It will cause oxidative stress in your body - fatigue, inflammation, organ damage.
yeah I said that in the video...it probably causes cancer also. Too much or too little of anything is "bad for you" so you have to take/ingest the right amount and keep your levels of these things in check.
Awesome. I'm preparing for my first marathon. I should still do this??
Zach Bush MD would say jumping in lake/creek after running would help your magnesium...Vitamin D is hard to manage since you are an endurance runner and outdoors alot. B2 supplements are needed since riboflavin helps with Vit D/B-12/B-6 and other key methylation processes and running/sunlight exposure make you need lots of B2. Thanks for sharing. I'm alot older than you and have amped up my b2 and cdp-choline and 80+ miles a week and my labs are always great. Your kidney markers are outstanding considering the training you are doing, you must have hydration locked down. Veggies are full of healthy fiber and water, so kudos to eating veggies, I do minimum of 9 cups a day of veggies and 2 cups of berries.
Interesting... thanks Sage. ✌
Sounds like you are re-positioning the weekly efforts finely.
Ever consider taking a beer break, detox, flush, reset the microbiome for better absorption?
Of course I dont believe beer is bad for you, but have experienced the joy of a super-clean gut, there's really nothing like it.
Cheers.
Sage would liked to have known what your SHBG and free testosterone is ?? and do you find the high milage is increasing your SHBG resulting in a lower free testosterone ?
Interesting video thanks for sharing 👏
Good stuff!
thanks
Sage, while I agree with you that most all professional athletes are using supplements I also agree that it is possible for the average person to find all the nutrients they need solely from the foods they eat. I feel that what most people neglect to consider is that being a finely tuned professional athlete requires a great deal more energy and nutrients than the average person requires. Thankfully, we have supplements to bridge this gap.
the average person (at least an average American) eats a pretty non balanced diet IMO though. Actually they eat a rather unhealthy diet. There is no concept of balanced nutrition and many "fad" diets to lose weight and such. Sure, they may get by without pushing themselves really hard in physical activity/sports though. I wouldn't notice if I was low on B12 or iron if I didn't run hard ever. I feel quite healthy and fit in day to day (normal) life!
Vo2maxProductions the fad diets drive me nuts... they’re so unnecessary...
peace of mind....good stuff.
(if you up Vit D...you may want to take MK-7, guides the D where it is needed most.) You probably know that but if not.
"guides the D where it is needed most" - that's what she said.
Is there a version of this blood testing company for athletes in the UK?
No results for cholesterol? Is it not tested as it's not important for performance or did I miss it in the video?
Your RBC is quite low if we respect you train high altitude, i have 530, living and training 200m above sea lvl. Do you know your bilirubin lvlvs?
ok, can see bilirubin 6:20 now
When I lived at 8600' one summer I tripped a Hematocirt of 48-49. The RBC is hardly ever over 5.0 for me. Hemoglobin has also gone up into the 16s with some more high altitude stuff...RBC is not the end all
@@Vo2maxProductions Guess genetic variations, i can have rbc 550 but hematocrite still around 45(i have quite low hemoglobine lvls)
Which panel was that one? The Gold Panel?
Sage, stop constantly justifying your diet. Sometimes ppl just have to do their own research to dispel their inaccurate views
Hi Sage, off topic question here. Have you had I.T Band issues on the outside of your knee? If so do you have any suggestions on how to fix the issue before it becomes chronic?
Strengthen your hips, warm up with side leg swings and don't foam roll it: it's a tendon.
Which B12 supplement do you take? I'm a vegan ultrarunner, too, but have never taken a B12 supplement. I might try that out.
Usually its something like cyanocobalamin...although I've done methyl before as well. There are many vegan brands (these are chewable tablets...they have sublingual as well) Usually its like 1000mcg-2000mcg as you only absorb a fraction of it. For sure it is smart to get B12 levels tested as being low is really bad for you!
I have pernicious anaemia (really annoying!), so I inject cyanocobalamin every month, but I recently tried methylcobalamin sublingual tablets, and I have to say, the first day at least, I did notice I had absorbed something. Cyanocobalamin is the artificial version of B12 which is released more slowly, methylcobalamin is one type that is used directly in the bod body without first having to be broken down.
And yes, deficiency is awful, the first injection I got a few years ago made me nearly pass out because my levels were so low, and I had electric shock sensations in the nerve endings in my feet and hands, like when it's cold and you touch a metallic door handle and give yourself a shock! But yes, you don't want this deficiency, the symptoms are unbearable.
Eye opening and mixing up my mind about Vitamin D as I'm next to albino and been avoiding sunlight since 1980's. Always thought Vitamin D rich foods would be enough but is it..?
Most people in the world should be able to get all the vitamin D they require from sunlight, so it should definitely be your number one source of Vitamin D. (Except for in the winter months some places, where the sun just doesn't contain enough UVB. This is where you should eat fortified foods and/or supplement.) Just take care so you don't get burned, but do allow for some skin exposure without sunscreen as well, as it tends to stagnate vitamin D conversion in the skin.
No difference between sunlight and diet derived vitamin D. Cod liver oil is great and your liver can store Vitamin D for at least a month.
@@RowOfMushyTiT Don't see why anyone would swap a few good minutes under the sun for a spoon of awful cod liver oil, but that's my take on it..
Ok maybe i flaked out no cholesterol test ?
Do you take creatine? Is it legal for long distant professional runners. Do you think it is a form of cheating for the local 5k runner?
Creatine is great for short burst energy like weight lifting or sprints. Unlikely to help for medium distance and especially not for long distance. You carry too much water for it to be beneficial and your efficiency will suffer. There's always more to it than this simplicity as it has multiple effects but overall it seems unlikely to help and isn't a commonly used running supplement for the water weight reasons.
Thanks, I find it helps me recover from hard work outs. I had not considered the water weight gain as a negative for efficiency. I have been using it fro my build up to 30 miles per week with weight lifting.
Long time!
Blood test: lettuce, onion, tomato
A word of advice from an old man, & greetings from the land of Aus: I've been running for over 50 years, I'm 69. Way back then I'd run 6 days and 100+ miles every week. Not so much now, but I can still run 5K in 23mins. 10K in 55mins. I have a resting HR of 55 & a Max HR of 190. I'm a vegetarian. If I listened to all the "advice" I get from totally unqualified people, and there are many, I'd weight 200lbs (I weigh 140), be sitting on my bum watching 'Days of Our Lives', (I don't watch TV) and I'd be taking 20 different prescription drugs (I don't take any). Listening to Sandi's advice, or maybe that of your fellow elite cohorts may be wise, but ignore the rest and forgive them, they know not what they do 😃
First view
Sage would have destroyed the challenger games....
Dude did u get an eyebrow tint 😳
I have no idea what that is....
Vo2maxProductions 😂
Sage, have you calculated your training intensity ratio based on HR in the book 80/20??
Jeff Riddle he’ll not respond to you.
Nice commercial
Lol 7:16 .......
No one runs 100 mile weeks "drug free" without ending up injured. The top of the sport is so competitive the word "drug free" might as well be a fairy tale. It's essentially required to be "elite" in the sport unfortunately. The very fact he makes such a point to try an emphasize he doesn't do drugs smells fishy to me.