Award for vegan cheese makers in Berkeley rescinded

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  • A Berkeley company was about to win top honors in a prestigious food competition for its vegan blue cheese until a change of rules led to a big stink. Andrea Nakano reports. (5-2-24)
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  • @MakinaDeMuerte
    @MakinaDeMuerte 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +367

    There's no way big wisconsin cheese cartel are going to let some vegan cheese take over the scene.

    • @blackpalacemusic
      @blackpalacemusic 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Exactly! 😂😂😂

    • @AllyTV1
      @AllyTV1 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +35

      Yeah, but it kind of backfired. This is just free advertising. I wanna try it now, wouldn't have known if they didn't get disqualified.

    • @meatpopsicle1567
      @meatpopsicle1567 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Um, more cheese is made in California, so that is a silly statement.

    • @MakinaDeMuerte
      @MakinaDeMuerte 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@meatpopsicle1567 Yeah? Well, maybe California
      should market it better because all Wisconsin is known for is cheese and serial killers. Maybe there's a correlation.

    • @Jeff250lbc
      @Jeff250lbc 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      First thing about Wisconsin cheese cartel is they have nothing to fear from chemical chunks of chemical.

  • @Lb-ri5wr
    @Lb-ri5wr 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +190

    Just wait until they find out peanut butter isn't actually butter

    • @pame4345
      @pame4345 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

      Or that peanuts aren’t nuts

    • @CCRoselle
      @CCRoselle 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

      Not usually much ham in a hamburger?

    • @NancyPancyLovezYou
      @NancyPancyLovezYou 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@CCRoselle😂

    • @Redneck_Hero
      @Redneck_Hero 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      Hotdogs don't contain dog......that I know of

    • @davidcooke8005
      @davidcooke8005 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Just wait until the find out 'I Can't Believe It's Not Butter' isn't butter.

  • @Anolaana
    @Anolaana 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +217

    Gotta say I feel bad for the guy. Weird that the rules got pointed out a week before the end of the competition on a technicality. The kokum plant certainly seems to be recognised in Indian cusine as safe, and like the company points out, they could have easily have submitted a substituted recipe.

    • @selanryn5849
      @selanryn5849 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      Or just don't use cosmetic-grade ingredients not approved as food safe in food. After that Daily Harvest tara flour debacle, it's just not worth the risk.

    • @dahawk8574
      @dahawk8574 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

      "just eat the real thing"
      ...said no cow ever.

    • @dahawk8574
      @dahawk8574 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      @Anolaana, this guy is capitalizing on his cheese being disqualified. Akin to the Streisand Effect, he gets far more free publicity this way. Colbert is the perfect example.

    • @andromedaspark2241
      @andromedaspark2241 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +42

      ​@@javiersblogfood intolerance is a big reason. Cheese/dairy sets off autoimmune issues in some people. Same with gluten or lots of other proteins, including animal. It's really not just vegans. You have no idea how nice it is to have fake Mac & Cheese when it's your favorite food but makes you deadly ill. Soooo glad these exist. Some are really good.

    • @starshine3588
      @starshine3588 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Well…like he said…he could have used cocoa butter so why didn’t he just use that to begin with. And just because India uses this Kokum plant in their cuisine doesn’t mean it’s safe….India still uses child labor and crams children in hot rooms to work…they also make fireworks and neither of those things are safe for their children. They also allow tons of people to ride on top and on the sides of trains…so I don’t really think India has safety as a first priority for their citizens.

  • @d.d.d.a.a.a.n.n.n
    @d.d.d.a.a.a.n.n.n 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +75

    I really want to try this. I'm so lactose intolerant I can't even eat most cheeses anymore, or even butter, and I miss good cheese more than anything else

    • @hefoxed
      @hefoxed 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Are you sure you're lactose intolerant and not allergic or sensitive to something else in milk?
      Lactose is sugar. Butter is fat with only trace amounts of lactose. I'm super lactose intolerant, but butter is fine and cheese is ith lactose pills is generally fine.

    • @d.d.d.a.a.a.n.n.n
      @d.d.d.a.a.a.n.n.n 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@hefoxed Yes, I have been lactose intolerant since I was an infant and do not have an allergic reaction to milk. I have been lactose intolerant for several decades and know about and use lactase pills, but they still don't protect me against all issues at this point and it's easiest to just avoid dairy most of the time
      I am also not the only lactose intolerant person to eventually become so intolerant to no longer tolerate butter very well, and it can be shocking how much butter is in a lot of baking. I am aware that it has only trace amounts of lactose, but I also react to some 'dairy free' creamer, and that's how I found out that some of those also contain trace amounts of lactose. I wasn't always so severely lactose intolerant and was a bit incredulous when I'd found out about a friend's partner who was unable to eat any dairy and thought perhaps it was an allergy. But now I understand

    • @lisasteel6817
      @lisasteel6817 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I started as lactose intolerant then moved onto milk protein intolerant which ruled out the last vestiges of happiness in dairy form. The struggle is real.

    • @deadbeatbrad5484
      @deadbeatbrad5484 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Try raw milk, or goats milk ❤

    • @d.d.d.a.a.a.n.n.n
      @d.d.d.a.a.a.n.n.n 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@deadbeatbrad5484 Lol, you clearly don't understand what I already wrote. Goats milk also has lactose in it, and I can only barely have tiny amounts of butter, so NO. Raw milk also has lactose, so also NO

  • @moniquep2760
    @moniquep2760 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +153

    Best advertising possible

  • @DarrellAdler-lw1hd
    @DarrellAdler-lw1hd 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +83

    This is awesome for those of us allergic to dairy but still want pizza and other things with cheese

    • @silentnot4812
      @silentnot4812 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      It isn’t cheese so you still aren’t eating cheese. Why pretend? Why not embrace plants as they are instead of pretending?

    • @Dewkeeper
      @Dewkeeper 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@silentnot4812because it tastes like cheese, and we like cheese. Are you thick in the head?

    • @bibianaguadalupeislasherre9880
      @bibianaguadalupeislasherre9880 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      Or those who are lactose intolerants.

    • @BigIndianBindi-jy1cz
      @BigIndianBindi-jy1cz 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

      @@silentnot4812 there's nothing wrong with pretending. if you can create tasty comfort foods without exploiting animals, why wouldn't you?

    • @meatpopsicle1567
      @meatpopsicle1567 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@BigIndianBindi-jy1cz Sounds like a First World problem, to me. Without chemical processing and artificial ingredients. this stuff is not possible.

  • @sbss924
    @sbss924 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +67

    Climax can use this video as free marketing. What great advertising for free.

    • @gigginbig3
      @gigginbig3 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Advertised how real cheese is superior

  • @chihauhaun
    @chihauhaun 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    This reminds me of the food theory MatPat did where he pointed out that the requirements for the Michelin Star favours French cuisine and excludes other foreign cuisines so almost all the winners are French restaurants. If anything this is just more evidence of food gatekeeping and it's going to make people realize how doctored/manipulated the information they are getting about food is. Also big dairy is a little scary.. the way they reacted when the government (of Canada- I'm Canadian so maybe it also happened in the States but I wouldn't know so I can't speak to that) tried to remove/lower the recommended milk intake on the food pyramid because it's not as good for you as the companies paying for their place on the food pyramid say it is... let's just say anything I say about them is alleged for safety

    • @TwisterTornado
      @TwisterTornado 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I love cheese, but...
      You know what else tastes specifically like BLUE cheese? Spoiled yogurt.
      There's something truly disgusting about the entire product, including people's denial about how much ESTROGEN, and other hormones, are probably in pregnant mammal excretions...

    • @w.reidripley1968
      @w.reidripley1968 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      So, TwisterT: any idea how estrogen might survive stomach enzymes digesting it?
      It would have to survive intact to affect the, ah, estrogen-sensitive.
      Since the Caucasian population has been consuming milk products since the Neolithic, it's pretty well shown to be unproblematic in anyone not lactose intolerant, by so wide a majority that lactose intolerance is more an outlier than a universal among Caucasians. (Milk products like cheese, maybe butter, and yoghurt; these keep.)
      "A little learning is a dangerous thing // Drink deep, or taste not, the Pierian spring" ---Pope
      See also _Milk,_ Mark Kurlansky

    • @TwisterTornado
      @TwisterTornado 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@w.reidripley1968 Yeah, thank you, creepy white man. You're why my adopted dad refused to understand my lactose intolerance. Yup, "some Native". Lots of "rural" people are.

    • @TwisterTornado
      @TwisterTornado 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@w.reidripley1968 Anyway, I was already answering the people who were worried about phytoestrogens surviving stomach acid...your point?

    • @TwisterTornado
      @TwisterTornado 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@w.reidripley1968 No one was speaking to you, r-pist Boomer.

  • @MeadowLandss
    @MeadowLandss 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    Kokum butter has been used in India forever, and it’s also a great skincare ingredient.

  • @eskallagrimsson
    @eskallagrimsson 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +67

    Reporter, "I don't know how you did it but you have the green, kinda moldy, marbling inside." Maybe by adding the green kinda moldy stuff when it's made? Lol.

    • @user-bv7mk8id5t
      @user-bv7mk8id5t 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Wait, adding it? But it’s mold, you don’t need to add anything. The way she said it, did sound a little dumb though. My response to the reporter would have been, -well it’s mold.

    • @eskallagrimsson
      @eskallagrimsson 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      @user-bv7mk8id5t they inoculate the cheese with penicilin when making it, that's how it's made. I just thought it was silly the way she put it. Like, of course it has it in there.

    • @jpaxonreyes
      @jpaxonreyes 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Your cheese has a nice cheesiness.

  • @sevenandthelittlestmew
    @sevenandthelittlestmew 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +44

    How is kokum not GRAS certified? It’s used in chocolate. 🤷🏻‍♀️ edited because iPhone autocorrected to Kokomo, because autocorrect is stupid. 😆

    • @joedirt1965
      @joedirt1965 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      GRAS is not a legal requirement to sell a food item. It's just big retailers will not sell non-GRAS food for insurance reasons.

    • @Tser
      @Tser 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Cocoa butter is used in chocolate, kokum butter is different. But Climax already switched to cocoa butter anyway. Kokum butter is used extensively in some places as food, though it does have some sensitization (allergenic) risks. It's just never been studied by the FDA.

  • @hotbluflame2933
    @hotbluflame2933 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +203

    So by dairy interests trying to keep them from winning, we’re getting to know that their product could replace the products of dairy interests.

    • @ajvintage9579
      @ajvintage9579 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Exactly!!! It’s glorious!!

    • @janefreeman995
      @janefreeman995 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@ajvintage9579There are many who have dairy allergies. Alternatives are a wonderful accomplishment.

    • @meatpopsicle1567
      @meatpopsicle1567 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ajvintage9579 It's toxic. The artificial plastic cheese industry is trying to eliminate choice, to force us to consume expensive artificial man-made products containing toxic ingredients that were not meant for human consumption. You can eat that crap, if you want, but do not dictate to others what they may consume just to protect your own sense of self-righteousness.

    • @rwincott251
      @rwincott251 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Streisand gonna streis

    • @meatpopsicle1567
      @meatpopsicle1567 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ajvintage9579 No. It's toxic and artificial. They're trying to feed us nothing but poison.

  • @dc100dc100
    @dc100dc100 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    The point of the rule is to make sure that the cheese can be legally sold. Without GRAS, you have to notify the FDA of the use of the ingredient and that could cause review and recalls.

    • @siiiiiuu7
      @siiiiiuu7 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Ok, but this was supposedly realized a week before the competition. A bit silly and understandably suspicious in the eyes of some

  • @sarahprice659
    @sarahprice659 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    “Kinda moldy “? It IS mold. Just, carefully crafted mold.😂

  • @mimimonster
    @mimimonster 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    If I’m eating something inventive and vegan, I would like it to be certified as generally safe to eat.

  • @chefdsal1
    @chefdsal1 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    Having the award rescinded is bigger for the cheese than winning it. They let vegan compete never expecting them to come close to winning.

    • @siiiiiuu7
      @siiiiiuu7 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Spot on

  • @vidalott
    @vidalott 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    Imagine, suddenly going blind, and still being able to taste food.
    Thanks Chef.

  • @LL-bl8hd
    @LL-bl8hd 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    Wow... I want to try it. 😯

  • @om-nj2hw
    @om-nj2hw 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +84

    The dairy, as is the meat, is a huge industry, and they hate , i mean hate the idea of plant based alternatives. Thats why they sue companies that use milk or burger in their plant based options, sayit confuses consumers, but is really abput fighting the plant based industry. Never underestimate peoples greed. Also as a vegan i have no intrest in things tasting like the " real" thing , i just want options that taste good, are healthy and don't involve the suffering of animals. I dont consider food based on death the epitome of ecstasy.

    • @suzannezoubeck5216
      @suzannezoubeck5216 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      If you're eating a whole food plant-based diet, that's great. If you're not, you're eating ultra-processed unhealthy vegan crap (as most of the vegans I know do...and I know a lot of them). The Climax website doesn't tell you the ingredients of what's in their products (and I say products because I don't consider it food) or tell you how they make this stuff. Consider reading the book Ultra-processed People: the science behind food that isn't food by Chris van Tulleken. ❤☮🌎

    • @joann5051
      @joann5051 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      ​@@suzannezoubeck5216Sadly even people who are eating meat are eating Ultra processed foods as well. So you can't just say vegan food is ultra-processed and it's bad for you. I do Whole Foods vegan as often as I can but being a working person it's awfully hard.

    • @suzannezoubeck5216
      @suzannezoubeck5216 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      @@joann5051 I CAN say vegan ultra-processed food is bad because it IS unhealthy. The video was about vegan cheese and not meat, so my focus was on vegan foods. Do I know that omnivores are eating ultra-processed food? If I read the book Ultra-processed People by Chris van Tulleken, I would (and I did), and I have no problem saying ALL ultra-processed food (the kind with multiple ingredients we can't pronounce and creation processes we can't do in a non-lab kitchen) is unhealthy. Ultimately though, eating anything is better than eating nothing (vegan or not depending on your proclivities), but the results you get from eating a WHPB (whole food plant-based) diet is not the same as the results you get from eating a vegan diet that includes (or is mostly) ultra-processed foods if your interest is in being alive and healthy for a long period of time (as well as being a vegan). If people are mostly interested in animal rights and don't really care about health, they'll often eat any vegan crap put in front of them. The industrial food complex is lined up and ready to make LOTS more tasty vegan crap (using industrialized salt, fat and sugar as the successful seductive incentives) that will be greenwashed as being better for the environment, and then either not exactly telling the truth or straight out lying about it being good for you to eat. I don't believe any of the well respected vegan doctors (Campbell, Barnard, Ornish, Fuhrman, etc.) will advise eating ultra-processed vegan foods over whole vegan foods. However, I get being time crunched and tired, etc., (right there with ya) so I know we're all doing the best we can at any given moment in time. It's challenging to eat healthy, vegan or not, but if one doesn't, there is a price to pay in terms of health so it seems worth it to do the best one can, and the more you do prep work and planning the easier it becomes. Health is wealth, and the healthy person may want many things but the sick person wants only one (to not be sick anymore). That said, I'd suggest buying the cookbooks (or at least getting them out of the library to check them out and decide if you want to buy): 30 minute Whole Food Plant-Based Cookbook: Easy Recipes with no Salt, Oil, or refined Sugar by Kathy A. Davis, Cook:30 by Jeremy Dixon, and Cook:30 2 by Jeremy Dixon (you can watch the tv show Cook:30 on TH-cam). ❤☮🌎

    • @user-bv7mk8id5t
      @user-bv7mk8id5t 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@suzannezoubeck5216so? Do you not eat processed foods? Dairy cheese is processed as well as meat. Most foods are. I bet you do eat a lot of processed stuff… So what’s the big deal and why do you care so much about what other people eat? As the maker of the climax cheese said (I agree the name is hilarious), they just want to coexists, why is that so hard for big dairy industry and big meat industry. Oh yeah $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$! Let people be.
      That cheese contest was clearly wrong. They should have never allowed them to compete if they didn’t want a non dairy cheese to win. But I bet they thought it would be a good laugh for them. Now who’s laughing, I know am 😂. As well as Steven Colbert show. Best

    • @suzannezoubeck5216
      @suzannezoubeck5216 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@user-bv7mk8id5t Never said I didn't eat processed foods (processed foods by strict government definition can mean cooking anything and not eating it raw), and I try not to eat ultra-processed foods (you know there's a difference, right?), which is what I WAS talking about. If you want to learn about the problem with ultra-processed foods read Ultra-processed People - The Science Behind Food that's not Food by Chris van Tulleken (or watch his videos on this website). In the world we live in, there's not much of an incentive to eat healthy (read the book Salt, Sugar, Fat: How the Food Giants Hooked Us by Michael Moss), and the majority of what's available in fast or casual food eateries isn't, though places like Panera, Chipotle and other chains are trying to clean up their menus.
      Why do I care so much about what other people eat? Oddly, enough...I care about people besides myself. For one thing, more younger people are getting colon cancer and the recommendations for preventing it is to lose weight and eat a whole foods diet...and that diet could help one lose weight (Yale School of Medicine doesn't stress vegan or not). Then there's diabetes Type 2 which is now a thing with children which didn't really exist with them until the obesity rates went off the charts (also related to what one puts in one's mouth). The book, The End of Diabetes by Dr. Joel Fuhrman recommends a whole food plant-based diet to be able to get off diabetes medication and basically be "cured" of Type 2 diabetes.
      So, I don't really care about this contest as much as my issue being with companies that are catering to vegans (who will eat pretty much anything with the "vegan" label) and others who are trying to eat either healthier or to help the environment. Companies like this are greenwashing their products when they're neither healthy, nor ultimately going to be the thing to clean up the environment (check out the book Defending Beef by Nicole Hahn Niman...it's not the cow, it's the how).
      And yes, the writers on The Late Show with Steven Colbert are very talented, and the "Meanwhile" segment has always been a fave of mine (though if I was him I wouldn't have eaten the Climax stuff...no matter how good the bit was). ❤☮🌎

  • @keitylerastrology
    @keitylerastrology 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I here for the puns 😂

  • @MickiFroGr8ness
    @MickiFroGr8ness 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    4:18 yes coexist! I'm not vegan but I have excema with dairy so alternatives is for others like me!

  • @XSemperIdem5
    @XSemperIdem5 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I miss blue cheese so I'll be on the lookout for this one if it's safe for anyone with a dairy allergy.

  • @Nenezilla
    @Nenezilla 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    As a vegetarian for 30 years, I'll never see vegan cheese be good.

    • @alasdairblackmore2592
      @alasdairblackmore2592 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I have, and I've been eating vegetables for 60years +... Vegan Cheese is good for the bin.

    • @Nenezilla
      @Nenezilla วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@alasdairblackmore2592 exactly where it belongs

  • @hermenutic
    @hermenutic 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    If it isn't animal based how can it fit the definition of cheese? Wasn't that distinction settled when margarine was invented and sold as a.substitute for butter?

  • @jackiefox7224
    @jackiefox7224 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

    Looking forward to seeing this on Canadian shelves soon!! 🇨🇦

    • @meatpopsicle1567
      @meatpopsicle1567 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Right next to the bugs and grass your lords and masters demand you should eat!

    • @waynemanning3262
      @waynemanning3262 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Can’t be classified as cheese without dairy in Canada

    • @blazingstar9638
      @blazingstar9638 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@waynemanning3262yeah but they’ll call it Chee’se or something 😎

    • @HillLeeHill
      @HillLeeHill 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@waynemanning3262 ​ @blazingstar9638
      Not true. Have you not ever seen the packs of "DAIYA Dairy Free Mozzarella Cheese Shreds" at the grocery store?!?!?!

    • @lisasteel6817
      @lisasteel6817 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I love all the defensive comments assuming people want to eat this cheese because they are hippie bug eaters and not because they are maybe allergic to dairy…

  • @wildlifegardenssydney7492
    @wildlifegardenssydney7492 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    They would have won ….yet the competitions organiser Good Food Awards…..changed the rules last minute…….😡😡😡😡

  • @BitKing_Ross
    @BitKing_Ross 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Mysteriously disqualified? It’s not cheese…

    • @GordonPavilion
      @GordonPavilion 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Actually, it is cheese.

  • @__...Sunshine...__
    @__...Sunshine...__ 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Hey, this is local company for me. I can't wait until next year when they start retail sales of their products.

    • @beardoodle9835
      @beardoodle9835 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Same! I can't wait for retail sale 😋

  • @Jeff250lbc
    @Jeff250lbc 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Can we see the list of ingredients? .

    • @hobibrowsing1168
      @hobibrowsing1168 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      No... better dont

    • @sgtbaker81
      @sgtbaker81 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      That would spoil the illusion.

  • @JenniferPChung
    @JenniferPChung 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Whao I wanna try it. I'm so curious cause the look alone🤯. Great job. And the competition. Brutal.

  • @kanders7391
    @kanders7391 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    There was one substance that was being used as an alternative flour & ended up making people very sick, but is sometimes eaten in south America. Tara flour that was used in Daily Harvest foods. It was in the news a couple years ago. Thats why the new rule exists.

  • @gtv6chuck
    @gtv6chuck 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    Cheese not made of milk is like trying to call a beer a wine. Even Velveeta is not legally cheese.

    • @FruityHachi
      @FruityHachi วันที่ผ่านมา

      peanut butter is not made of butter yet you have no problem calling it peanut butter

    • @gtv6chuck
      @gtv6chuck วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@FruityHachi It's made of peanuts. You are not going to see peanut butter in a butter competition. A pancake is also not made of pans.

    • @FruityHachi
      @FruityHachi วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@gtv6chuck you're changing your argument now since you lost
      your original argument was about the name, not about entering a competition
      if you don't mind peanut butter using the word butter, then neither should you mind vegan cheese using the word cheese
      and plant-based cheeses entered cheese competition in the past and nobody complained, since competitors were just making fun of vegan cheeses tasting awful

    • @gtv6chuck
      @gtv6chuck วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@FruityHachi Don't enter non cheese in a cheese competition. Don't enter a motorcycle in a car race. Don't enter a pancake in a cake competition. Don't enter peanut butter or butterflies in a butter competition. If you hadn't noticed, that is what this article is about.

    • @FruityHachi
      @FruityHachi วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@gtv6chuck go sign a petition then, instead of ranting on youtube

  • @whynot12321
    @whynot12321 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Just how I like my cheese. Scientifically formulated.

  • @DeltaEchoGolf
    @DeltaEchoGolf 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    There are so many levels of what vegan/vegetarian is. That you can add or subtract numerous items and still fall within the vegetarian spectrum.

  • @minionette5925
    @minionette5925 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Why don't they just get their own category? The Fake "cheese" category

  • @deannab9511
    @deannab9511 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +64

    They hate it when non-dairy cheese is better than the heart attack real cheese!

    • @user-bg2oi4bz3p
      @user-bg2oi4bz3p 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

      Real cheese is a healthy alternative to fake cheese.

    • @deannab9511
      @deannab9511 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@user-bg2oi4bz3p real cheese is extremely high in cholesterol and saturated fat, one of the highest in all foods. Do your research! Not healthy at all!

    • @deannab9511
      @deannab9511 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@user-bg2oi4bz3p not sure if you were joking

    • @user-bg2oi4bz3p
      @user-bg2oi4bz3p 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

      @@deannab9511 Contrary to pharma companies, cholesterol ingestion does not affect heart disease. Saturated fat is also no longer implicated by those that do not profit. Polyunsaturated fats - linoleic acid - omega-6 fats - vegetable oils are the worst substance to consume; worse than sugar. Unlike the highly damaged fats in vegetable oil, saturated fat is the optimal "clean" fuel.

    • @johngrayson3846
      @johngrayson3846 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      ​@@deannab9511 those are only issues for people with specific ailments. People thought sodium and fats were bad back in the day yet here we are. Now we know sodium doesnt raise blood pressure in normal people and we know that fats are actually healthy.

  • @nav662007
    @nav662007 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +47

    Excellent! Thank you for giving some good air time to this story on improvements in vegan cheese. I know a majority of Americans either do not support or are unaware of plant-based alternatives, but perhaps stories like this will help them see the light...🙂

    • @SheilaR.08
      @SheilaR.08 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I went to the company's site to see where to find the cheese. It's not available in my area yet, but I'll definitely be watching for it!

    • @spoonypoon7998
      @spoonypoon7998 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      All the plant-based alternatives are full of chemicals and cause cancer

    • @lisasteel6817
      @lisasteel6817 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@javiersblog If you’ve seen the toilet after I eat dairy and then the colitis flare up and the hospital admission, I guarantee you’ll change your mind on that.

  • @tammiep9628
    @tammiep9628 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I absolutely love cheese and I believe there’s room for vegan cheese specially if this taste that good. I would love to try it.

  • @selanryn5849
    @selanryn5849 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +35

    Velveeta has to call itself a "pasteurized prepared cheese product." Why does this stuff get to call itself cheese?

    • @yuppers1
      @yuppers1 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      They're not commercially packaged yet. The government won't allow it but this is about a contest

    • @blackpalacemusic
      @blackpalacemusic 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      I just love the fact a plant based product beat dairy in taste and texture. 😂😂😂 Better quality without the health risk.

    • @maryseflore7028
      @maryseflore7028 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@blackpalacemusic Are you sure it's better quality? There's Velveeta, and there's actual cheese. Two things, one is clearly better quality than the other.
      Plant-based cheese - okay, sure. But if you need 20 additional ingredients to turn plants into something resembling cheese, it's probably not the best thing for you.

    • @cherdnad2630
      @cherdnad2630 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      "Without the health risk"
      I don't think vegans really care about health. If they do, they wouldn't be eating overly processed plant based alternatives.

    • @nillyk5671
      @nillyk5671 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@maryseflore7028 I see you sell dairy products 😂

  • @jebrehbaker8613
    @jebrehbaker8613 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    All that science is gonna make it as expensive as cheese

    • @Lilboozibert
      @Lilboozibert 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      It's way more expensive than regular storebrand cheese.

  • @Chilos49
    @Chilos49 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    This would come from Berkeley 😂

    • @Pippi-Longstocking
      @Pippi-Longstocking 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      As a Cal graduate I can say you are right! Lol

  • @Trund27
    @Trund27 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +49

    The dairy industry is gargantuan and sadly has a lot of power. Eventually, we will all have to go plant based as the environment deteriorates.

    • @batcactus6046
      @batcactus6046 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      Actually, no.

    • @SheilaR.08
      @SheilaR.08 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      Yep. This smacks of a variation on the lawsuits against using words like mayo and milk in conjunction with vegan versions, as if anyone would be confused between soy milk and dairy milk. I've been veg/vegan since the 90s and wouldn't dream of going back to the SAD diet I grew up eating.

    • @BunnyMan-ec4xg
      @BunnyMan-ec4xg 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@batcactus6046actually yes. There is more biomass in cows on the planet right now than all other living animals combined. That's not sustainable.

    • @windyhawthorn7387
      @windyhawthorn7387 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      You can't go plant based as the environment crumbles. I don't think you understand agriculture at all. It takes more resources to produce crops. Especially on land not suitable for such things. Then it's all pesticides, fertilizer, GMO crops with crazy contracts. Newer farm tractors where your not allowed self repairs. Food companies run by Wall Street and want control over everything.

  • @prizegotti
    @prizegotti 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Kokum Butter probably won't get FDA approval, not for a while at least, as digesting Kokum Butter can cause skin irritation, and is typically considered a cosmetic/pharmaceutical ingredient.

  • @nillyk5671
    @nillyk5671 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This would save me. I'm not only lactose intolerant but allergic to dairy products.

  • @allenlj5165
    @allenlj5165 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    I hate that so many people see instances like this as fights between the dairy industry and vegans. In reality, plenty of people can benefit from alternative cheese products being on the market. Those who are lactose intolerant, those who have dairy allergies, those who might use the cheese for religious purposes, and to those who simply want to try something new. I hate how industries see these instances as "trying to replace them" when in reality the more options for consumers the better. It's like how when Margarine was introduced to the market as a butter alternative, the media went crazy promoting it, such as brands like Parkay. Now, Margarine and Butter coexist peacefully. But it seems we've gone away from the "marvel at the new technology" era and just worry about business prospects more than anything.

    • @brianackerman2226
      @brianackerman2226 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yet now we know margarine is unhealthy.

    • @allenlj5165
      @allenlj5165 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@brianackerman2226 True, however, in response other companies have come forward and healthier alternatives from margarine are now on the market. It takes someone to open the gate, and regardless if the first to come through is the best option, it allows others who might be better suited to come through next.

  • @CenturyHomeProject
    @CenturyHomeProject 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I would definitely try it. I’m not a vegan, but I like trying vegan foods. Sometimes I don’t wanna eat meat. I’d like to have a good vegan or vegetarian option available

  • @Nuttyirishman85
    @Nuttyirishman85 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    Why is fake cheese allowed to enter a cheese competition in the first place?

    • @wayneessar7489
      @wayneessar7489 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Praise cheezus.

    • @Nuttyirishman85
      @Nuttyirishman85 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@wayneessar7489 if you eat that stuff, jeebus is giving you the middle finger.

    • @nillyk5671
      @nillyk5671 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's cheese not fake cheese.

    • @Nuttyirishman85
      @Nuttyirishman85 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@nillyk5671 cheese is made from milk curds, it’s not cheese.

    • @FruityHachi
      @FruityHachi วันที่ผ่านมา

      because the organizers nor competitors didn't think they'd win, they let vegan alternatives enter the competition in the past and nobody complained since they were used for jokes, but this time when the alternative even surpassed dairy competitors that's why they ran into problems

  • @kenisaak3525
    @kenisaak3525 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Vegan cheese is not cheese!

  • @thomasfrazier3378
    @thomasfrazier3378 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    "Generally safe by the FDA". In other words, you shouldn't eat it.

  • @mylamberfeeties875
    @mylamberfeeties875 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    All food should be tested BEFORE sold the FDA should have tested it before they used it on the public or in restaurants

  • @onebridge7231
    @onebridge7231 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I’m thankful for all the vegans. More steak and real milk based cheese for me! 🤗

  • @armandocardona6975
    @armandocardona6975 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    as a lactose intolerant person cheese love. please hurry. I don’t even like the idea of eating cow nutrition for calves….

  • @juliepiemonte3268
    @juliepiemonte3268 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I prefer my cheese not come from a 3-D printer.

    • @FruityHachi
      @FruityHachi วันที่ผ่านมา

      you prefer your cheese with pus and estrogen instead

  • @mfranck1
    @mfranck1 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Vegan cheese is the best! We all know this company really won. Congratulations!

  • @nikolascagefreeeggs307
    @nikolascagefreeeggs307 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Streisand effect with cheese kind of.

  • @starcatcher3691
    @starcatcher3691 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Best marketing ever. Now we have heard about this cheese. Thanks dairy folks!

  • @Amm1ttai
    @Amm1ttai 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Sounds like the dairy farmers paid off the judges.

  • @macman1469
    @macman1469 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    The flavour has a subtle hint of Petri dish .

  • @Bonbon-C
    @Bonbon-C 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Tag Line - Disqualified for being too good!

    • @windyhawthorn7387
      @windyhawthorn7387 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Not really they didn't want an product that wasn't certified edible to win because they can't even sell it to customers...

  • @fukyuyuetoob7663
    @fukyuyuetoob7663 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    That one way to eliminate the competition.

  • @matthewhuszarik4173
    @matthewhuszarik4173 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love Blue Cheese I look forward to trying this one day.

  • @jonathanweir6084
    @jonathanweir6084 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The reporter being astonished by the mold in the blue was a sign she doesnt know a thing about cheese or food processing. It's like when people make tofu out any legume; lentils, pintos or whatever

  • @WelfareChrist
    @WelfareChrist 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    They made poor Andrea film that in a parking lot at 2am.

  • @jeffreydweeks
    @jeffreydweeks 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Just what we need. More processed food.

  • @gamingnerdgirlz
    @gamingnerdgirlz 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    if grass or this, cheese works for "lactose intolerance" people then this would be a great alternative.

  • @jamalrobinson8321
    @jamalrobinson8321 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    Just had a thought but is mold vegan? I mean it's alive. Thoughts?

    • @AC-cg6gz
      @AC-cg6gz 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

      it's a fungi and fungi is vegan because it's not animal or plant

    • @user-ik4xq9hm1x
      @user-ik4xq9hm1x 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      @@AC-cg6gz fungi is far more closely related to us than it is to plants. Slime molds can solve mazes.

    • @sweatyeti
      @sweatyeti 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

      The vegan philosophy is not about avoiding killing anything, it's about minimizing harm to *sentient* animals (beings capable of experiencing pain, suffering, and/or trauma). For some, this permits the consumption of oysters since they don't have an obvious nervous system, however many vegans will avoid oysters anyway. Since meat and dairy foods, leather, and other products that use animal testing all inflict pain, suffering, and typically end in the early death of the animals involved, vegans avoid paying for them.
      I hope that clears things up!

    • @colsonrizzuto7973
      @colsonrizzuto7973 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      🤦‍♂

    • @ajvintage9579
      @ajvintage9579 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Mold and fungus, aka mushrooms, are vegan, as is yeast.

  • @1ACL
    @1ACL 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Not fair!

  • @meltulip2822
    @meltulip2822 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This looks amazing, I definitely would love to try it.

  • @jhawley031
    @jhawley031 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    In fairness, id hope my food is GRAS certified.

  • @miimosa679
    @miimosa679 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Should be interesting to see if Chez Panisse uses it.

  • @carrie8751
    @carrie8751 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If they mark it organic they can’t use GMO’s which is the problem, the rinnet is the GMO in cheese.

  • @nae_petey_son
    @nae_petey_son 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wonderful presentation.

  • @pohanahawaii
    @pohanahawaii 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    🧀 Wow, I can't wait to try Climax! 😁

    • @w.reidripley1968
      @w.reidripley1968 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Have a little Climax.
      Makes it sound like it comes in a little wax-plastic red shell...

  • @katwashere194
    @katwashere194 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Awesome!! Now do cheddar!!

  • @sunshinelizard1
    @sunshinelizard1 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    This story took a long time to get to the point.

  • @LuisLopez2
    @LuisLopez2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Call It whatever you want, it isn't cheese if it doesn't have milk.

  • @MusicLoverJenny
    @MusicLoverJenny 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    They probably got a lot of pressure from the dairy companies, probably saying something like it’s not real cheese so it shouldn’t be included so they made up a rule.

  • @Amtcboy
    @Amtcboy 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If it’s not from dairy, then it’s not cheese.
    It just tastes like it.

  • @Santa-ny1yp
    @Santa-ny1yp 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The secret to a great vegan cheese is animal products.

  • @AzimuthAviation
    @AzimuthAviation 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sure looks like a 96th Bomb Wing patch on the chef's field jacket!

  • @ronin_user
    @ronin_user 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Rubber, and vitamins. Flavoring.

  • @barkingdog365
    @barkingdog365 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    If I were blind AND I couldn't see..

  • @mannyechaluce3814
    @mannyechaluce3814 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    We do need more highly processed food

    • @batcactus6046
      @batcactus6046 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      And more fake almost-food.

    • @SheilaR.08
      @SheilaR.08 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

      Plant-based cheese is not what's killing us in droves, unless you think that dairy cheese is, too. It's the ubiquity of ultra processed foods at every meal, every day. A largely unprocessed diet has room for the occasional treat, and this one is better for the environment and the cows.

    • @dahawk8574
      @dahawk8574 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      One of the most processed foods ever invented is... wait for it...
      Chocolate.
      Processed can be a most wonderful thing. Especially, as SheilaR points out, if you're a cow.

    • @Codemaster92163
      @Codemaster92163 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Processed =/= bad. Just like natural =/= good.
      Sometimes you just need to take things as they are, not how they've come to be. I'd rather eat a ham and cheese sandwhich (all processed) than eat a fly amanita mushroom found in the wild.

    • @blackpalacemusic
      @blackpalacemusic 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@dahawk8574Do you know the actual process of making chocolate or are you just repeating something you heard on the internet???

  • @monicarose2135
    @monicarose2135 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    Grass certified? Hmmmm…

    • @lissakaye610
      @lissakaye610 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      GRAS certified - Generally regarded as Safe

  • @kassiapencek6185
    @kassiapencek6185 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Hip hip hurray 🎉🎉🎉🎉 thank you for covering this!

  • @EdwardVGrimm
    @EdwardVGrimm 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    To the wise words of Wiz Khalifa: "First thing, If it's 'bout that 🧀, then I'm about it..."

  • @ELOAAMinistries
    @ELOAAMinistries 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The dairy industry won't need to worry if they don't improve QUALITY I won't buy it!

  • @Pippi-Longstocking
    @Pippi-Longstocking 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    I love Daiya vegan cheese. It’s so good! It melts and tastes and acts like real cheese. I’m not vegan but I love it.

    • @restezlameme
      @restezlameme 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Thank you for the recommendation! I'm not vegan but I'm always open to healthy alternatives

  • @Jeremvy
    @Jeremvy 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Excluded before the competition you supposedly won?
    Comfusing or sceptical?
    Won what? A qualifier for the actual contest?

  • @lisasteel6817
    @lisasteel6817 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’m very, VERY milk protein intolerant and I would do almost anything to get this company’s cheese in circulation in Australia. Our current options are not…edible.

  • @jennifershanks453
    @jennifershanks453 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I want some!

  • @TameraJacobs
    @TameraJacobs 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Cocoa Butter can be food grade. What do they think give chocolate is smooth texture?

    • @HiThisIsMine
      @HiThisIsMine 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      Kokum Butter

  • @ironox8480
    @ironox8480 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It's not cheese. Does not deserve an award for a cheese competition. No mystery, it's not cheese.

  • @NguyenVinhHang
    @NguyenVinhHang 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yay Climax Foods ❤

  • @brenttesterman3171
    @brenttesterman3171 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    WHY?!!?

  • @Lin10uson
    @Lin10uson วันที่ผ่านมา

    It is really something to see that people are upset about things like this because it just shows that they clearly don't care about people, like me, who are allergic to dairy and didn't find out until after living part of my life eating it on a regular basis like a normal human. Blue cheese is the only thing I want on my hot wings, and I have to go without it all of the time because ingesting it is going to send me the hospital. everyone always thinks things have to be so binary when having things be fluid is always the best option as it saves work, energy, hassle, end time.
    I am so excited for this!

  • @mariecampana8532
    @mariecampana8532 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    cheese is cheese like rice is rice😂

  • @toneenorman2135
    @toneenorman2135 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I can’t understand what they are saying. What was it that disqualifies them? “No grasses “? Thank you.

    • @cherdnad2630
      @cherdnad2630 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Using an ingredient that is not FDA approved. That kokum thingy.

    • @toneenorman2135
      @toneenorman2135 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@cherdnad2630 Thanks!

  • @dc9748
    @dc9748 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Who-da-thunk there would be such controversy in the fake cheese industry. The only good cheese is a cow cheese.

    • @supernova622
      @supernova622 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Well, a world famous French chef disagrees 🤷🏼

    • @espana86
      @espana86 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      This person forgot goat cheese exists.

    • @lisasteel6817
      @lisasteel6817 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      This person forgot allergies exist.

    • @espana86
      @espana86 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@lisasteel6817 You killed him😂

  • @ajvintage9579
    @ajvintage9579 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This was a cowardly move!! The cruel and environmentally destructive dairy industry is going away and plant-based alternatives are here to stay. This just proves what an impact the plant-based food industry is making.