FINALLY, a music teacher that's not totally full of himself and trying to tell me that' I'm gonna fail if I don't follow his 5-step formula to the letter. Thank you so much!
Honestly, the way you breakdown the three music forces makes way more sense to me than anything else I've ever read on music theory or production. I've been studying music on and off since the 5th grade over various instruments, but I've always been far more of a visual thinker. I've never considered seeing melody and harmony in terms of the subject and background of visual art; I always got lost trying to deal with music as its own thing and always got tripped up on the more advanced theory stuff. That stuff might be fun for hardcore musicians, but most of the time I'm just trying not to sound like an amateur when playing my own little section of music. And I think that's held me back from being able to get in deeper, because I could see the individual parts and the final composition but couldn't figure out how it all fit together. But now I'm starting to...
The chord progression from section B is the same which Porcupine Tree uses in "Collapse The Light Into Earth". You might compare it with the version from the video above to hear how not only melody can change a chord progression, but also the other way round. Also, Porcupine Tree uses a peculiar progression with 5 instead of 4 bars which one would expect. iii, IV, I are one bar each but V is stretched to the length of 2 bars, probably to give more weight to the suspended fourth (not belonging to the harmony) dissolving to the third of the chord. (belonging to the harmony)
This video is a rare jem. Its been like years, i just got on making music, i looked out for every video to learn music basic but still couldn't get that basic but here right in this video confusion about scale, melody, background was cleared. Hats off to you sir, Thank you for this jem ❤
Sir, I wanna say you are so great in what you do..i am washing dishes while listening to you and even i am not watching you i am learning…. I will watch and watch again… thank you and take care.
This feels like a paid musical course..like wow..Thank you sir very much! I'm an animation student but relies more on my musical skill, this really helpful!
BEAUTIFUL! I’ve been seeing you adverts on Facebook for months. This was so straightforward and understandable! You’re an excellent teacher and communicator! I’m subscribed and will definitely be coming back and sharing!
What a great video. Thank you so much for spending the time and effort to show us how things work. And the first melody even without the direction sounds beautiful. I definitely will re-watch several times to get a deeper "understanding". And last but not least… your real world examples like walking through a town looking at the ground or at the sky helped me really understand better…. Thanks SO MUCH!
Where has this TH-cam channel been all my life? I really enjoy your instructional videos and find them super helpful for my constant desire to keep learning. Thanks a lot!
Like everybody else here I watch a lot of TH-cam videos on music theory music production for this by far has got to be one of the most best videos I've seen😊 I will subscribe
Hey man, I make techno and this video made more sense than all the other shit I've come across the years I've been practicing the art of making music. Thank you, you provided what I was always seeking: mental models and structure applicable in the general case with examples of various cases. You rock! Thanks!
Wow, what a complete and qualified tutorial to compose music. I saw a lot of instruction videos the last years but yours is the masterclass! You really understand what you want to teach to us. And you are a perfect trainer! Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us!❤
One of the most useful videos on composition on TH-cam! Thank you Marc, your videos are always great but this one really helped me understand orchestral music in layers opposed to using the layers of the orchestra to stumble through a composition and hope it sounds good. ❤❤
Fabulous content Marc! Your teaching and analogies are great. People like you help us to learn music for free. Lots of love from my heart! Never stop this...
I've gone to bed very late because of watching this wonderful tutor, I've really acquired a lot of knowledge and skills and motivation in music composition thanks so much Sir.
This is a side bar. Not relevant to this video but to a film score. Just watched the Batman. Towards the end the main theme left me thinking and humming the March of Darth Vader. I realize with only 7 keys and modes. All music will over lap. But man was that almost and exact pull from John Williams. Wish you had an X account. Would have commented there. Love you Mark. Thank you for all you do! GODAN
It really helped and gave us a confidence. Thank you so much Please make a full video of how to compose from start to end with plugins. Mixing and Mastering.
Loved this. Top work & great insights. Being cinematic composition, icing on the cake would have been marrying the final piece to one of the video clips. Cheers Marc. Subbed.
Hi.... I am highly inspired by your music... I started learning piano but then eventually my interest in multi instrumental music evolved a lot... And hence right now i am working on my transcribing capabilities... Also i am wondering if i must sell off my digital piano and buy a midi controller because i feel the keys on a digital piano are not suitable to play everything... Would you help me with some suggestions/advice?
You know Man I have to congratulate you, I do not comment usually but you are so direct and good. Continue as you teach, may life teach other things to you 🎉
Great video! I am completely beginner to composing and know next door nothing about music theory nor how to create music. The three musical forces breakdown made everything much clearer. However, I got very confused towards the end after you finished the background and started working on ostinato. The direction notes seemed to be mostly in C4, background mostly in C3 and lowest parts of it being C2. Then you replaced background with onstinatos that also seemed to be mostly around C3, lowest parts being C2. You changed the piano background to strings, how? Then , when you play the complete piece (starting around 32.02 in video) the lowest parts of all notes (which seems to be new piano background since strings has "replaced" the C3-C2 area) are now dropped to C1. It seems that new background is between C1 and A1. Are those indeed piano notes between C1 and A1? How did you compose the new background (I assume it´s not just a matter of grabbing all the notes and moving all of them lower in scale as a group)? Also, in final piece I can see only 1 note per bar in piano background (all below C2), except one bar has clearly C2, G2 and E2. Also the final piece seems to be 18 bars long, not 16. What am I missing? Where are the "new old" piano background chords? Is there more in C2 and C3 than just the strings? I´m confused where are the piano notes "buried" when viewing the final piece , which are the string notes and why/how some of the lowest notes dropped to C1 octave(?). Maybe all this is explained in PDF, but FYI the page after signing up does not exist and I have not received anything via email after subscribing on your website. Please shed some light...thank you. EDIT: Received PDF with quite a bit of delay, however it does not clear my confusion or explain anything about what I asked. Please let me know if my questions make sense, thanks.
This video was so insightful! I've always wanted to learn how to start writing a music piece, especially for writing music for plays. I have a quick question; how did you change the background music to strings? How do you change your melody to other instruments?
Isn’t TH-cam fantastic? Excellent video. Of course, what we’d all love to see is a video of the likes of John Williams explaining what he does. There is the theory and the formulae and then there is…..mmmh, what is it?
I am so...this was very insightful and helpful but dang I'm a third of the way through and my mind is already malfunctioning but this has shown at least the of what I was missing when it comes to making music so thank you for making this video cause I seriously would have been lost without it. 😊🤯😤😩 I have a very long way to go it seems
Wonderful video!!! Very clear and full of original ideas and concepts. I am a professional pianist and a little composer :-) I found your teaching way and ideas invredible useful and simply marvelous!!! Thank you!!!
This was truly eye opening! Thank you so much for this. I do have a question. What about percussion? Does that count as movement? Or is that it's own separate thing?
Movement if its performing some sort of ostinato or something like this... But you could have a Marimba (which is a percussion instrument) performing a melody line... in that case it would be direction. Or you could have a soft timpani roll providing "background"... So it's not about what instrument... but rather what is it doing... I hope this helps
@@CinematicComposingThanks! I will admit that this advice is a little confusing, but it is much appreciated. It seems obvious that percussion is a whole nother animal, and I will have to study it further.
I feel like movement wasn't discussed enough in that real-world analogy. It's one of the "forces" that was the most eye opening for me and it was kind of left out.
Thank you Marc for this. Ive been trying to switch from being a ambient cinematic artist to more orchestral cinematic works. And its been quite challenging. But this really helped to see how film music is structured. Thanks again!
I used to write songs arranged produced 5 pieces and I play well 5 instruments but I am an old school guy. I need to learn for which one to use like cubase any software in how to use as very beginning for installation with MiDi keyboard guitar for the dummies cause I have very limited in digital computer things, you know what I mean, just explanations in ABCD. I know music and played 60s 70s 80s 90s songs in clubs hotels bars restaurants, recording in 4 languages, gospel songs as well.
Hello Marc, you are well educated and a perfect teacher, a good composer.. But my problem is not in composing, producing melodies!... What I cannot do is the substructure for my own melodies that I have developed; chord, aprg.. bass etc. How can I write chords to the melodies that I produce!.. What are your simplest methods in this regard!... Thank you.
Good question! You can change it as much as you want... but don't feel you have to change it a lot... some times you don't even need to variate it at all... just altering orchestration could be enough! ;)
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I almost didn’t click this video because I’m not a beginner but I learned a lot and better understand the things I already know. 👍
FINALLY, a music teacher that's not totally full of himself and trying to tell me that' I'm gonna fail if I don't follow his 5-step formula to the letter. Thank you so much!
Honestly, the way you breakdown the three music forces makes way more sense to me than anything else I've ever read on music theory or production. I've been studying music on and off since the 5th grade over various instruments, but I've always been far more of a visual thinker. I've never considered seeing melody and harmony in terms of the subject and background of visual art; I always got lost trying to deal with music as its own thing and always got tripped up on the more advanced theory stuff. That stuff might be fun for hardcore musicians, but most of the time I'm just trying not to sound like an amateur when playing my own little section of music. And I think that's held me back from being able to get in deeper, because I could see the individual parts and the final composition but couldn't figure out how it all fit together. But now I'm starting to...
The chord progression from section B is the same which Porcupine Tree uses in "Collapse The Light Into Earth". You might compare it with the version from the video above to hear how not only melody can change a chord progression, but also the other way round. Also, Porcupine Tree uses a peculiar progression with 5 instead of 4 bars which one would expect. iii, IV, I are one bar each but V is stretched to the length of 2 bars, probably to give more weight to the suspended fourth (not belonging to the harmony) dissolving to the third of the chord. (belonging to the harmony)
This video is a rare jem.
Its been like years, i just got on making music, i looked out for every video to learn music basic but still couldn't get that basic but here right in this video confusion about scale, melody, background was cleared.
Hats off to you sir, Thank you for this jem ❤
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You’re totally right but “jem” 😭
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@@BillyJohnson-js4kd Makes sense lol
@@finixmoon127 okay, so what should i do with your information make a kar, goitar, pianuo, mosic, droum... Phoenixmoun
Sir, I wanna say you are so great in what you do..i am washing dishes while listening to you and even i am not watching you i am learning…. I will watch and watch again… thank you and take care.
This feels like a paid musical course..like wow..Thank you sir very much! I'm an animation student but relies more on my musical skill, this really helpful!
great content it provides the essential components for a solid foundation.
the best ever TH-cam music teacher ever known so far. i dont think i will need further classes. thank you
Sweet Jesus. This guy is more than a technical expert, he clearly breathes music. Mind and soul among history's top composers.
Thank you so much, Marc! This is the most fun I've had interacting with music in a long while! This is perfect and its exactly what I was looking for.
I am a complete beginner and the 3 forces of music are a great basic to work with. Thanks for making it so easy to understand.
BEAUTIFUL! I’ve been seeing you adverts on Facebook for months. This was so straightforward and understandable!
You’re an excellent teacher and communicator!
I’m subscribed and will definitely be coming back and sharing!
This was super helpful. Thanks God bless you and anyone watching this.❤
What a great video. Thank you so much for spending the time and effort to show us how things work. And the first melody even without the direction sounds beautiful. I definitely will re-watch several times to get a deeper "understanding".
And last but not least… your real world examples like walking through a town looking at the ground or at the sky helped me really understand better…. Thanks SO MUCH!
This video we need to put our likes more and more. Because it's amazing
Where has this TH-cam channel been all my life? I really enjoy your instructional videos and find them super helpful for my constant desire to keep learning. Thanks a lot!
Like everybody else here I watch a lot of TH-cam videos on music theory music production for this by far has got to be one of the most best videos I've seen😊 I will subscribe
Hey man, I make techno and this video made more sense than all the other shit I've come across the years I've been practicing the art of making music. Thank you, you provided what I was always seeking: mental models and structure applicable in the general case with examples of various cases. You rock! Thanks!
Vous êtes incroyable, votre manière d'expliquer est originale, vous révolutionner la pédagogie d'assimilation, merci beaucoup
Wow, what a complete and qualified tutorial to compose music. I saw a lot of instruction videos the last years but yours is the masterclass! You really understand what you want to teach to us. And you are a perfect trainer! Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us!❤
You are an amazing teacher for real. I'll be following up your new contents. Thank you!
One of the most useful videos on composition on TH-cam! Thank you Marc, your videos are always great but this one really helped me understand orchestral music in layers opposed to using the layers of the orchestra to stumble through a composition and hope it sounds good.
❤❤
You are definitely an excellent pedagogue, Marc!
Wow, thank you, Pascal! I don't take your words for granted. It truly means a lot to me 🙏❤️
I really like your method of teaching music! It has been a while since I played, but how you explain compositions is terrific!
I always amazed by how much useful information you can fit in such small time
Wow, what passion and knowledge is transported here!
Fabulous content Marc! Your teaching and analogies are great. People like you help us to learn music for free. Lots of love from my heart!
Never stop this...
I've gone to bed very late because of watching this wonderful tutor, I've really acquired a lot of knowledge and skills and motivation in music composition thanks so much Sir.
I have learned a lot about how to tweak and create sounds with synthesizers but THIS makes it all CLICK for me.
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So much knowledge and great value in this video. Thank you!
Great lesson Mr. Jovani💯🙏🏾
Maraming Salamat, in English Thanks a lot.👍👏
Thank you for creating such wonderful videos and the great explanation
LOVE TO THIS GUY ❤
Excellent video. It has helped me to understand some very important concepts. Very well explained. Thank you!!!!!!
Brillant masterclass.
This is a side bar. Not relevant to this video but to a film score.
Just watched the Batman.
Towards the end the main theme left me thinking and humming the March of Darth Vader. I realize with only 7 keys and modes. All music will over lap. But man was that almost and exact pull from John Williams.
Wish you had an X account. Would have commented there.
Love you Mark. Thank you for all you do!
GODAN
Thank you so much sir for your efforts, Love from India.
Hi Marc, As a beginner this has been the best explained video I have ever seen it has now made me to understand the theory to write music.
It really helped and gave us a confidence.
Thank you so much
Please make a full video of how to compose from start to end with plugins. Mixing and Mastering.
Really you are a good Teacher❤
Loved this. Top work & great insights. Being cinematic composition, icing on the cake would have been marrying the final piece to one of the video clips. Cheers Marc. Subbed.
Hi.... I am highly inspired by your music... I started learning piano but then eventually my interest in multi instrumental music evolved a lot... And hence right now i am working on my transcribing capabilities... Also i am wondering if i must sell off my digital piano and buy a midi controller because i feel the keys on a digital piano are not suitable to play everything... Would you help me with some suggestions/advice?
Wow amazing teacher! 🙏🏽✨
You know Man I have to congratulate you, I do not comment usually but you are so direct and good. Continue as you teach, may life teach other things to you 🎉
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I watched and I feel enlightened.
Great video! I am completely beginner to composing and know next door nothing about music theory nor how to create music. The three musical forces breakdown made everything much clearer. However, I got very confused towards the end after you finished the background and started working on ostinato. The direction notes seemed to be mostly in C4, background mostly in C3 and lowest parts of it being C2. Then you replaced background with onstinatos that also seemed to be mostly around C3, lowest parts being C2.
You changed the piano background to strings, how? Then , when you play the complete piece (starting around 32.02 in video) the lowest parts of all notes (which seems to be new piano background since strings has "replaced" the C3-C2 area) are now dropped to C1. It seems that new background is between C1 and A1. Are those indeed piano notes between C1 and A1? How did you compose the new background (I assume it´s not just a matter of grabbing all the notes and moving all of them lower in scale as a group)? Also, in final piece I can see only 1 note per bar in piano background (all below C2), except one bar has clearly C2, G2 and E2. Also the final piece seems to be 18 bars long, not 16. What am I missing? Where are the "new old" piano background chords? Is there more in C2 and C3 than just the strings? I´m confused where are the piano notes "buried" when viewing the final piece , which are the string notes and why/how some of the lowest notes dropped to C1 octave(?).
Maybe all this is explained in PDF, but FYI the page after signing up does not exist and I have not received anything via email after subscribing on your website. Please shed some light...thank you.
EDIT: Received PDF with quite a bit of delay, however it does not clear my confusion or explain anything about what I asked. Please let me know if my questions make sense, thanks.
This video was so insightful! I've always wanted to learn how to start writing a music piece, especially for writing music for plays. I have a quick question; how did you change the background music to strings? How do you change your melody to other instruments?
Thank you for giving me this what i have been looking for so long. Everything I needed to know quickly to the point.
I have got a valuable knowledge, thank you so much.
What a great video , but i have question , what about fifth parallel? is it ok or needs to change plz guid me
One of the best video. Work on this video can be felt easily thank you.
This is a good video even i am not a beginner anymore but some things are good to refresh and train the knowledge :)
Thanks. You are a great teacher.
Isn’t TH-cam fantastic? Excellent video. Of course, what we’d all love to see is a video of the likes of John Williams explaining what he does. There is the theory and the formulae and then there is…..mmmh, what is it?
I am so...this was very insightful and helpful but dang I'm a third of the way through and my mind is already malfunctioning but this has shown at least the of what I was missing when it comes to making music so thank you for making this video cause I seriously would have been lost without it. 😊🤯😤😩 I have a very long way to go it seems
W😍nderful video brother.. Please keep posting more videos..
Thank you for this very interesting and thorough tutorial !
Wonderful video!!! Very clear and full of original ideas and concepts. I am a professional pianist and a little composer :-) I found your teaching way and ideas invredible useful and simply marvelous!!! Thank you!!!
Thanx for sharing
love this!!! Thanks!!!!
Ima just learn this
Best video ever
The ‘ah’ is so cute, haha, thanks a lot sir.
Wish i listened back then
I’m just going to hire someone to do it for me.
Thanks brother!
Bravo master !
This was truly eye opening! Thank you so much for this.
I do have a question. What about percussion? Does that count as movement? Or is that it's own separate thing?
Movement if its performing some sort of ostinato or something like this... But you could have a Marimba (which is a percussion instrument) performing a melody line... in that case it would be direction. Or you could have a soft timpani roll providing "background"... So it's not about what instrument... but rather what is it doing...
I hope this helps
@@CinematicComposingThanks! I will admit that this advice is a little confusing, but it is much appreciated. It seems obvious that percussion is a whole nother animal, and I will have to study it further.
Amazing Teacher!
Great info!
Thank you so much, this video really helped me!
Very amazing 🤩
I feel like movement wasn't discussed enough in that real-world analogy. It's one of the "forces" that was the most eye opening for me and it was kind of left out.
Thank you Marc for this. Ive been trying to switch from being a ambient cinematic artist to more orchestral cinematic works. And its been quite challenging. But this really helped to see how film music is structured. Thanks again!
one of the best lessons i've leaned.. its simple and very effective.. Thank you MJ.. its awsome!
if your not musically inclined should i invest in learning the piano?
I used to write songs arranged produced 5 pieces and I play well 5 instruments but I am an old school guy. I need to learn for which one to use like cubase any software in how to use as very beginning for installation with MiDi keyboard guitar for the dummies cause I have very limited in digital computer things, you know what I mean, just explanations in ABCD. I know music and played 60s 70s 80s 90s songs in clubs hotels bars restaurants, recording in 4 languages, gospel songs as well.
omg man at last i found you, thank you a lot
its crazy i do no. 2 first without any knowledge I thought u put the melody first lol..
Hello Marc, you are well educated and a perfect teacher, a good composer.. But my problem is not in composing, producing melodies!... What I cannot do is the substructure for my own melodies that I have developed; chord, aprg.. bass etc. How can I write chords to the melodies that I produce!.. What are your simplest methods in this regard!... Thank you.
Incredibly helpful. Beautiful work. Thanks for being so sharing.
Wow, really good explanation ! What is important for the chord progression in the B part ? How similar/different should it be from the A part ?
Good question! You can change it as much as you want... but don't feel you have to change it a lot... some times you don't even need to variate it at all... just altering orchestration could be enough! ;)
@@CinematicComposing Ok, thank you for the quick answer 🙏
very useful video thank you for your effort
Very good and interesting video!
Videos are so much better and educational
On the point! Watched till the end! There are a lot of hidden tricks and informations, thats very nice :)
Very well explained
This video helps me a lot to create
WOW and WOW! Thank you sir this awesome.
thank you Maestro...that got me started
This was great, thank you so much
Wow I've learned so much
Amazing Explanation !!
Thank you very much Marc
Hi, great video... I was wondering if the 3rd Ostinato is correct, it doesn't seem to follow the chord of C.
This is extremely helpful