A First Look At Fedora 36 i3 Spin (If I Get It Installed)
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- Fedora 36 has been released and instead of looking at the flagship GNOME edition of Fedora, today I'm taking a first look at Fedora 36 i3 Spin. Fedora i3 would make a perfect starting point for those wanting a minimal Fedora installation where they want to build their desktop from the ground up.
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Yes, I missed the 'liveinst' instructions in the terminal. But I think many if not most users would miss this, because why would I open a terminal and expect to find instructions on how to launch a GRAPHICAL installer? I wouldn't. The real problem is there are no instructions referring to 'liveinst' anywhere on the Fedora website. I don't think anyone would look for instructions on launching a GUI app in a terminal. I mentioned that this distro seems more like an automated spin with vanilla i3 thrown on top of Fedora. If this distro has any real devs though, they need to seriously add some documentation. And they need to add an easier to find launcher for the installer, or simply have the installer autostart in the live environment. Or create a simple welcome application that autostarts and points to the docs and the installer.
I lucked into finding the liveinst. Opened terminal to check uname -r and then was confused why the terminal was so chatty on first open.
It's definitely tucked away, but with that said this is exactly what I was hoping for with a super minimal i3 fedora setup.
wasting 8 min just because u didn't read the instruction.
Not to argue or anything, more just listing personal experience. The first thing I would have done was open a terminal.
Just out of instinct really. Ctlr+Alt+T -> ls is the first thing I do on any new machine I'm on.
They prolly should have set the terminal as an autostart if it's that important tho.
@@pako4555 more like wasting 8 minutes because there are not a 20-30 line of Readme.txt file shown on first login in live and/or installed Fedora.
And autostart a terminal.
That is basically the minimal one would expect the installation should start with.
Minimal installation is fine, it definitivt have a place in the Fedora world. That isn't the problem.
As comming from another minimal distribution, I need something to get started and understand the Fedora i3 disto.
very frustrating that you didn't see it at the top of your terminal. i was almost yelling at my screen LMAO.
you should probs actually install this to see what it's like on startup instead of just being stuck in the live install for 20+minutes.
2:55 DT, it literally tells you the command to open the installer when you open a terminal :)
exactly, I was confused as to why he didn't see it when he opened the terminal at least 3 times
lmao huge L for dt. my man is thinking too hard to just slow down a second and read
Thats not the point. A professional Distro like Fedora should atleast have some documentation on its installation page. Also noticed "liveinst" is not in quotes. Is someone to type "liveinst" or "liveinst and press enter". Any why can't they call it "liveinstall" the full word ? What value do they get by omitting 3 letters ???? This such a lackadaisical spin, which seems to be the product of a junior developer sitting around and twiddling his thumb. The Anaconda installer is a pain in the ass, why cant they use a simpler installer
@@Little-bird-told-me
Window managers are about minimalism. "liveinst" has less bloat than "liveinstall".
@@davidturcotte831 why use a gui installer if you have to use the terminal...
Disk setup failed because it was automatically selected, so when you clicked on the disk the first time around, it deselected it. For the password you had to click done twice, because on the first click it gave a warning for the weak password, which you had to confirm with the second click. The placement of the warning at the bottom is unfortunate. Fedora is working on a revamped UI for Anaconda, though, which I'm excited for.
Also, you need to click twice at 'Done' if you do not provide a strong password.
it is just bad UX choices... ngl
:) and good they are reworking on it...
When do you think the next major anaconda release would come in?
Probably why my installed failed. I just got a blinking cursor and couldn't tty so i flashed manjaro
Edit: It was fedora 35
@@ShaunakHub But dt provided a “strong and compliicated” password. lol. are u saying dt lied to us? lol. I found that part funny too. poor Anaconda. it tries very hard to say what’s going on. I think the messages being at the bottom of the screen while the done button is at the top is why dt mybe didn’t see it
3:48 Terminal said to type 'liveinst' to begin installation. How didn't you noticed that
😆😁😅
exactly what I was thinking lmao
I appreciate DT’s coverage, but moments like this really isn’t a good showing, I was cracking up staring at the instruction, it’s right there dude!
I do admit I have moments like this, but it’s still hilarious regardless even when it happens to me.
He was channeling his inner Linus Tech Tips and not paying attention to what he was looking at.
@Glizzster new Linux users aren't going to be using the i3 spin or indeed Fedora at all lol
3:15 💀💀 HOW LONG IS IT GONNA BE BEFORE HE SEES IT
You had to press done twice when creating the passwords because they were too short.
Look at the bottom of the screen when you're making the passwords and it actually says "password too short, you'll have to press done twice to confirm it"
It physically hurts watching this
fedora's whole gimmick is that it ships with any desktop environment straight from upstream. even gnome is the vanilla gnome and nothing is changed so it is logical that even their i3 spin would be the default experience you get with i3
Exactly ! Fedora project can be summed up in one page. All they have is a flashy website
@@Little-bird-told-me Debian also ships the desktop environments vanilla and i like it, there are users that only want the default experience and they would like to customize themselves.
That could apply to ALL distros if that is your way of thinking.
omg this was painful - it literally said on the terminal to type "liveinst" and press enter.
3:53: You will note at the top of the terminal window it says entering liveinst and hitting Enter will start the installer.
9:11 Pretty much everyone who tries to install something using Anaconda inadvertently de-selects the pre-selected disk :D
Anaconda is an abomination. I quit using Fedora for the same reason. Other one being dnf
when you opened up the terminal, it literally told you that you have to run liveinst
Fedora never customizes any DE, it is always the vanilla - even Gnome/ KDE is vanilla. And that is what I and many users of Fedora love about it 🙂
In Arch Linux you have the same vanilla DE or WM when you install them to the system, and after that you need to manually config them as in Fedora, Arch are the same.
@@cristiandolinta5673 except arch is way superior
@@cristiandolinta5673 except that arch does not have out of the box selinux :(
@@arnavgrover4631 And 10 other hilarious jokes you can tell yourself.
@@Sjoerd1993 lmao . Arch is lightwirght, minimalistic, has a better package manager, has an aur and has a wiki for literally everything u need. u dont even know what ur talking about
DT
It said "vim: command not found"
Not that the folder doesn't exist...
Yes, the folder probably doesn't exist, but it's not a correlation...
He really got to start reading what's being prompted in the terminal. It makes me wanna scream at the screen. But it's also kinda funny to see him struggle.
need more sleep perhaps.
You don't get fedora for a crazy customised setup. Fedora uses a vanilla desktop paired with new technologies.
Thank you for covering a spin! I wish more people would! They do theme and modify some of their spins, such as Cinnamon.
Just installed this spin on Virt-Manager to use only for shopping! I was excited cause this version is great on resources in a VM. I am a KDE fan but for shopping this 'diet fedora' works great! Very happy. At the end of any Fedora installation I just manually reboot. Agreed Fedora does have to work on the wording in the installation sequence. Awesome video/s I learn SO much from your content!
I run Fedora with the Cinnamon desktop. Really the taskbar plus a few desktop icons (I know - looks a bit like Windows) works great for me. The workspace switcher actually is pretty cool, IMO. I don't have a standard keyboard with a Windows key, so that's a problem for me in Gnome. I started with Linux Mint but switched to Fedora because I am a developer, I just didn't like waiting for a long time for updates to the kernel, etc. Funny thing is I loved the graphical update program in Mint, but quickly came to like dnf and how it shows updates in the terminal. I don't miss the idea of a "software store" at all - it's just so easy to figure out what packages you need anyway by searching Google. Mostly Fedora has worked well for me, though after the 36 upgrade I had a few hard freezes. There were some updates and I'm waiting to see if I'll still have those.
3:49 read the first line DT
I’m surprised you published this video because it’s kind of embarrassing. But I guess it’s also good to show how even experienced Linux users are dumb sometimes.
I dont think, Anaconda or any (major) linux distro is difficult if you start to read and pay attention to what's written!
I think the only thing to possibly add is that the i3 spin is based on the XFCE spin. So configuration should work via XFCE settings apps and such, and you should also get Thunar and other XFCE-family applications out of the box. In theory (I haven't tried it) you should be able to open the XFCE settings app for wallpapers and make all your adjustments there.
However I do share your sensibilities with TWMs - all respect due to the devs and people who love i3, but I find it clunky and unergonomic. Perhaps that's because I got heavily into XMonad back in the day and the autotiling experience is just so nice and easy by comparison. At least for me. I wish rather than an i3 spin it was more like a "tiling" spin with a few lightweight GUIs at or near install-time for selecting which tiler you want to use. I'm thinking something like gnome-initial-setup that runs when there are no user accounts, same thing - install, reboot, the initial-setup app runs and then you can pick i3, sway, awesome, XMonad, etc. Would be nice.
It is based on the xfce spin but it haven't everything. Thunar is there, but I'm pretty sure xfce setting is not (need to double check).
9:50 as a new Linux user which just switched to fedora kde this week can agree, it's one of the most annoying installers I've had
Luckily they're working on a redesign. I hope they actually make something cool this time
@@CupoChinoMusic I refuse to use Fedora until they change that installer
They could switch to Calamares. Its a simple, straightforward installer. Just a few steps and you’re done.
You have to select "done" twice while creating user and root accounts because the passwords are too short. There was a warning message at the bottom of the screen.
to be fair they could've place the warning at the top so you wouldn't miss it
@@dang-x3n0t1ct lol thats what i was gonna reply but i found yours!
@@dang-x3n0t1ct yeah but then it wouldn’t fit with the whole aesthetic. That’s why it’s a sort off yellowish color. I think that f37 will feature a rewritten anaconda.
@@dang-x3n0t1ct or at least near the field you enter the stuff. Where you usually is focused on.
This one lovely distro
If you choose a insecure password, you have to press 'Done' twice. It says so in the bottom bar.
I agree that the warning is to subtle. Maybe they should make it flash or something.
The goal is for you to NOT use a weak password.
@@linuxninja exactly. Thats why the warning should be more visible
It didn't let you reboot without sudo because it was still setting up some kernel modules, it will probably set them up on boot but you will have to wait in a black screen, I wouldn't run it with sudo there was a reason it didn't allow you to.
i3wm has always been my favourite. Although I think that EndeavourOS i3 spin does a great job in getting a good config out of the box. Of course Fedora ships with vanilla mostly but i3wm is something that the average user would appreciate. And if you actually want to rice it yourself, you can delete the config and do it! Either way, great video as always! Keep up the good work!
The problem, as I see it, isn't the choice of installing a minimal i3wm.
It is the lack och a simple Readme.rxt file that is shown during installation and maybe the first boot and login.
A file which explain the that what is needed to get started, that it is a minimal installation and how to get some more stuff installed.
Maybe with an URL or two to more information.
9:22 when you clicked the disk it actually deselected it beacuse, if you have only one disk, it will select it by default. So basically you would just go to that page and click done without changing anything.
Which is simply a stupid design decision. If there's only one disk, it should just set those defaults automatically rather than demanding you enter that submenu before allowing you to continue the installation. A user is either going to know what they want in terms of partitioning or they're not. If they do, they're going to enter that section anyway. If they don't, there's no reason why they should touch anything in there, so forcing them look at it makes no sense and simply creates confusion. Anaconda sucks, and I think that's now been acknowledged even by the Fedora team.
@@CaptainKenway I think that a user that doesn’t know about disk partitioning will think that this action will not replace their OS. It’s good the they do it like that. Actually, anaconda is my fav installer 🤣.
@@PapasFilms Really? It's IMO the worst. It is sooo complicated. What I want from partitioning is: Clean install - Install besides current OS - partition manually. And unter partition manually I want an option for creating the partitions I need and I don't want to type the mount point manually. How do I know, that I need a boot/efi/whatever partition?
@@GreatOne0815 you don’t have to type it manually. It’s a drop down (at least it was last time I used it)
I think they should keep this as advanced installer and also add another simpler option. (I do think that the current is extremely simple though)
@@PapasFilms @ @Michael Kehm Anaconda is your fav installer. Dude what are you smoking ? Anaconda is the worst installer in the world. Calamares is atleast two orders of magnitude better. I don't use Fedora 'cause they use Anaconda, I hate it so much
I think it's common to see a lot of arch linux users struggle with fedora. And I'm saying this out of experience. All my arch linux friends either hate Fedora or cannot get around with it. It probably because of the basic workflow, release cycle package manager and finally... A different approach to having a work done.(like anaconda workflow).
Coming from Arch, everything feels very nice except for the installer
I enjoy both for different reasons, but you have a point. Pacman is great, but dnf has some really nice things. Fedora is ‘almost’ rolling, a nice middle ground between static and rolling.
Fedora is a quasi rolling distro. Arch is more like set it and forget it, you need to set it up only once it doesn’t force you to update it when a new version comes out like with Fedora.
@@NormanF62 I have used arch for 16 years. Arch forces you to update daily or weekly or monthly, could you please tell me how you could install only security updates on arch without updating everything? In fedora there is the dnf up min and you can choose to install only security updates. In other words unlike arch you are choosing ,how much are you rolling.
Arch is aggressive rolling release without channels ,and you have to update constantly, one correction in fedora you haven't to update when every release comes out ,you can stay on release for up to 13 months if you want to slow down or more stability. You have choice, i know a lot of users that they aren't running the latest release, they are always staying one release behind.
I am running it, but am curious about installing the i3 edition. I have tried it in a VM, but man, it is very minimal. I need to get to learn more about configuring i3. Thanks for the video Derek!
Well, you proved that all of us are smarter than any one of us. Really, I've found help when I needed it and that is a very good thing about the Linux community. I just hope I can give some back in the future.
For the installer problem, the disk that has the checkmark on it is the disk that's selected. When DT clicked on the disk, it actually deselected it, which then gave him the related message. When he clicked it again he reselected it and that's why it worked; you can see the checkmark back.
Is it ideal? No, based on how often I've seen folks struggle with this part of the installer. I just wanted to spell out what was going on in that moment.
7:06 - yeah, they're typing liveinst to start the installer because literally the LINE AT THE TOP OF THE TERMINAL WINDOW says "Please type liveinst and press Enter..." They didn't get that instruction from some obscure source; it is on every terminal window you've opened. The first time I ran this edition I saw that first line and ran it. And I'm a noob, comparatively speaking.
11:49 - Fedora installer didn't say it would reboot the machine, it instructed you to reboot the machine. You have to reboot the machine. I know, it's not as intuitive as Calamares, which conveniently includes a Reboot Computer checkbox.
With a too short password you have to press Done twice.
I really wanted to try out fedora in virt-manager but somehow the installer works but is extremely slow, to the point where one click takes 5 minutes to do something, making it impossible to install. Interestingly i had the same issues even in the text based installer. Does anyone have a clue on how to fix it? Trying on vanilla Arch with qemu and virt-manager installed according to some Arch install guide. Pop-os works flawlessly so my setup does not seem to be completely messed up. Never seen any other installer than fedora act up like this before.
11:10 - yes, that is twice you had to click Done because the instructions at the bottom plainly stated you would have to click Done twice to confirm using a 2-letter password for your account.
Nice review DT! I also stated in my recent video where I recently review Fedora 36 about how Nvidia should be open source and make the things work, with much easiness!
P.S: the channel is in this profile, for whom is interested!
thanks, I'm never going to touch this in my life
I cant help it but Fedora had always this dry, clean professional feel to me. Maybe its because of the light blue accent colours but it always feels professional. Although I never got warm with the 6-13 months support, as I am a LTS guy 💪😄
That’s why you want Rocky Linux or Alma Linux upstream. Get a desktop with ten years support. Software isn’t going to be the latest and greatest but you expect it on an enterprise grade distro. If you can’t live without it, stick with Fedora.
Always good to see some different spins of Fedora. I really like gnome on my laptop with a toutchpad, but when I sit at my desktop gnome has just never felt right to me. I just downloaded and installed the Fedora Cinnamon spin yesterday.
lxqt is quite good also
They’re not as well known as the Ubuntu flavours. I would like to see the developer behind GeckoLinux come out with a customised Fedora distro featuring various desktop environments. He’s already done it with Debian with Spiral Linux. Fedora with prerequisites installed out of the box ready to use for new and power users.
damn, i just install fedora i3 today, then installed dwm. running smooth.
9:15 - the disk had the checkbox on it when you went in there indicating it was already selected. When you clicked it, you deselected it, which is why at the bottom of the installer screen it says "No disks selected: please select at least one disk to install to."
If you are going to look at Fedora, you should check out Fedora Silverblue (or the KDE version). That is one of the most innovative distros currently under development.
The reason i3 uses jkl; instead of hjkl is super+h points the next window in horizontal direction (super+v for vertical).
I changed mine to hjkl for switching/moving/resizing windows and ; and n for splits and tabbing/stacking
@@keyboardwarrior6296 Yes, easy enough to change. Or just use the arrow keys.
I like it that way too
One nice thing about i3 is that the move to wayland should be relatively smooth thanks to sway.
that's a very strong and complicated password ....
lol. click-click!
Daily driver is Fedora 35 KDE version. Waiting before update.
14:37 - It is vanilla i3. If you want something more polished, I would recommend the i3 configuration used by the ArchLinux GUI installer. It's pretty good, and I think it uses Kitty for the TE and Rofi for the run menu.
I have done Linux Mint, LMDE, Lubuntu, MX Linux...I have an old Thinkpad e530 that's 10 years old. I would love to learn about Fedora Lxqt but don't know where to start.
Did you ever try Regolith? That's a good pre-configured i3 distro
10:29 - The password is too short. You will have to press Done twice to confirm it. That is what is shown at the bottom of the installer screen.
i3 is life!
Upgrading to Fedora 36 messes up Nvidia drivers.
Removing drivers and re-installation required via command line on kde plasma atleast.
Black screen lingers after re-install but fixes itself after 1 - 3 mins.
9:24 - It didn't say 'no disk detected', it said no disk selected. Because you de-selected it previously. If you have one disk, Anaconda will select it automatically.
I installed the Fedora Bspwm spin on real hardware .... and I like it.
Maybe someone else already mentioned this: When setting a very short password for the users, the installer adds an infobar at the bottom that says: “The password is too short. You will have to press Done twice to confirm it.” Irritated me also, when I installed Fedora the first time. The anaconda-installer is a bit unusual, but it works.
Yep. It’s just way down at the bottom of the screen, while the done button sits always at the upper left.
Vim is installed in Fedora - but you have to call it with "vi" for some reason. If you type "vim" it will tell you command not found.
Way to make a simple installation needlessly complicated.
I haven't used a WM since xmonad back in 2012, and even I was able to install Fedora i3 to test with zero googling, in minutes.
What the heck DT?
PS: Yes, it's vanilla i3. Just as Gnome is shipped vanilla. Fedora users value sticking close to upstream.
That is fine.
But why not show a short Readme.txt when booting the live and there explain this?
And maybe rhere show a handful of useful URL
@Glizzster but it literally doesn't tell me anything why and how.
And how hard would it be to start a graphical program that show a README.txt file?
But who cares? I will not try it anyways.
I tried it with 35. But i wish they make "official" pure Wayland/Sway (witout XWayland bloat) spin. In the end i just went minimal server + Sway road.
my man cant read lmao, this video was harder to watch than the others, please dt open your eyes for the next video lmao
Tried dualbooting Fedora Kde spin on my main pc and it completely broke my grub configuration. I don't know how to setup grub manually so it was a pain to restore it how it was. I really want to try Fedora, I guess for now it's just better to install gnome Fedora and install kde on top.
I had done the same, dont remember how but restoring grub is weird on fedora, you have to reinstall grub packages using dnf
That's weird, I remove my old kubunto to switch it for Fedora i3 35, and after installing Fedora in that disks where Kubuntu was, it detected my Windows 10 in the other disk and automatically added it to my Grub (Something that I couldn't make possible with Kubuntu, despite copying and pasting some commands from internet during that time). Maybe it was because they were in completely different physical disks?
@@Zakaros1000 yes, but other installers (such as calamares) did recognize my bootloader on the nvme ssd while i was installing on my hdd. The kde fedora installation failed (bootloader error) and left me with a "GRUB RESCUE" screen after rebooting.
Hi, do a video about LXDE spin as well. Thank you
"strong and complicated password" - DT in every video he has to put a password in
then u hear “click click [enter]” lol
@@zspeaksoftlylove yep lol
Hey DT, why not use the variety wallpaper changer? It already has a hell ton of wallpapers, so you don't need to go around and download anything.
Oh, thank God it is not only me that hates the installer..
Not sure what other TH-cam Channels about Linux you follow, but I have seen videos about the different spins out there.
Not sure why the installer gives you so much trouble. It's pretty simple. If the drive has a check mark on it, it's selected. What I would do is install gnome Fedora and then install the I3 tiling manager and reboot into it. I run Fedora 36 Mate on my main machine and Fedora 35 LXQT on my old laptop. I just added the respective desktop environment after gnome was installed. Then I remove the gnome desktop environment, which will remove all the gnome specific apps that you hate.
I have massive issues since the early Fedora 36 Betas and the actual final release with the graphical installer on VMware. The thing just wont work. I blamed it on my bad skills to fix shit and carried on with Regolith - thatś an awesome i3 centric distro.
The super key is the Microsoft flag key, right?
Usually, but not always. Depend on the haedware. But yes, usually the Window flag key on old MS Windows computers.
Depends on your keyboard's keycaps.
@@AndersJackson I mean most keyboards still come with this key
@@heroe1486 not mine. It got a black diamond. It is a Sun Type 7 keyboard. Nor do my Mac keyboard have a Windows symbol.
@DistroTube
i been on fedora cinnamon for longest time now .
I tried the Gnome version and it was flawless. I just hate Gnome. It is pretty, but I just find so many things that I can't do with it, but I can do with KDE. So, I tried to do the KDE spin of Fedora. I had problems installing, but finally got it to run. Maybe one time out of 3 or 4, it would give me an Anodai crash and idbus errors as soon as the DE loaded. I really expected Fedora's KDE spin to be just as flawless as their flagship. I was wrong and I am back on Arch this morning.
Same. I don't like Gnome, but I find it to be the most stable.
The KDE install freezes but continues after parient waiting, in my tries. But still...
There is a Fedora Everything package.
It is a 670mb image. You'll download the distro during the boot install instead of the normal method (pre-made to USB).
The target machine needs a lan connection.
It comes with options to install any DE you want. You could install KDE from there. Although it's still Anaconda, this method seems more stable.
Or you could use the Minimal install option which does not install a DE with Fedora. I'm sure as an Arch user, you'll know how to handle it from there afterward.
5:34.
Read the first line in the terminal type "liveinst"
I noticed in your video and most other people's videos that review fedora with the anaconda installer that the people don't have the checkmark on the disk in the portion of choosing a disk, which is why it fails.
Im installing fedora right now. Im trying Linux again.
Reading the notes at the bottom of the installer screen will likely remove some of the confusion with the Anaconda installer. I agree, it's not super intuitive, but I've used it multiple times and it works well each time. But yeah, it's not Calamares.
It's also having the DONE button in the top left.... never seen that before. Ive been installing Linux for decades and this installer still threw me off a few times before I managed to get it right.
Endeavour i3 comes with a mild customisation.
seems like not getting older installations to work was a skill issue
If there is no doc of any kind for a public software it is basically garbage
The Fedora documentation clearly states that their 'Spins' are not officially supported by Fedora. Yes, it would be nice to have more documentation for them, but they're not from the official Fedora organization.
I upgraded to it, and it’s great!
Regolith did it well. they use to have the beginnings as the background image
I like you content - you do a great job. Now I have to question why screw around with VMs, you SURELY have a spare PC laying around and a HDMI capture card or dongle laying around. Why not use bare metal when you do these types of videos???
Tiling windows managers are soooo hard to setup, I am good with my desktop environment which works without so much setup
I installed fedora or a few days ago in my main dev box
sudo dnf install eyes
rm fedora*i3*.iso
I don't use WMs, vim, emacs, etc.
But to J K L ; makes more intuitive sense to me.
Hey DT, just for fun try to install dtos to this fedora i3 vm.
dtos is an arch linux installation script and uses pacman to install stuff. So it would not work with rpm.
Running Anaconda directly doesn't actually work. The only time you run Anaconda directly is on the netinstall/server image, which it runs automatically.
Alt D opens the D-menu bro. It doesn't use Rofi.
9:41 - Now it works because you un-did what you did on the Installation Destination screen from before.
One of Fedora's main tenets is not to mess with DEs. They develop the core system, and use 100% vanilla DEs, always.
I certainly appreciate that when it comes to GNOME... so many distros mangle GNOME OOTB
what do you think of the Nobara project, red hat, lutris and creator of proton made it.
@@samyt681 This is the first I am hearing about it. But it does sound like something their is a potential niche for. It really depends on if it ends up being a further layer of stability, checking, and fixes, or just another area where bugs and problems and creep into the OS. I know for me getting flatpaks working was nto as seemless as it should of been, II think I just ended up needing a restart, but I was confused for a little while their. and most off all I remember needing to lookup and and instrall some random codex to get vidoes to play correctly on FF. I sort of expect when I install FF on a modern computer that I can use it to browse the entirtly to the web, and not have large swaths just not work right until I type some random charaters into a terminal.
But overall it sort of sounds too ambitious for such small changes. Like just maintain a wiki and a automation scrept, why create a brand new distro when all you want to do is install a dozen tiny packages?
@@samyt681 if you don’t want to install third party repositories and that stuff, there exist distros that will take care of it for you, like Nobara, out of the box.
I wanted to try fedora but even when they still supported legacy bios, the installer was very broken, now is not even supported so I couldn't install it. I prefer Arch anyway so no big deal.
that is not true. the whole "removing BIOS support" thing was a *proposal*. anyone can say "hey fedora, do this" - it doesn't mean that the fedora community will actually agree and let the change happen. of course, clickbait youtubers and tech media decided to run with it as if it was actually happening 🤦don't believe the hype
@@babyboomertwerkteam5662 oh my bad sorry, but it is still broken on all my machines, I tested on 3 with legacy bios and anaconda was just a black screen all 3 times so...
Anaconda is as old as Red Hat which goes back a long time.
Let's not mention that in spanish keyboard the semicolon is right from the M imagine how much worst that is :D I understand the reasons of why they go with those keys, but still.
A comment, one of the best advises I ever had was, "Read the whole screen". 🙂
Fyodora = Russian for Theodora (in Russian, e = [yo]) The hat was named after Princess Fёdora.
You know it's real Linux because it's so obtuse that a Linux channel has a hard time figuring out how to install it
14:06 I'm pretty sure they do it the same way that arco linux does it (at least for BSPWM that I use). They start off with XFCE remove some of its components to reduce bloat and then install the window manager.
CLI installation + good documentation > garbage like that where you have to guess stuff