Been on Gnome forever... literally! To the point that to an extent for me "Linux == Gnome"! How do you feel about Ecosia's new "privacy policy" change?
Sooo what's the point of having all these "Virtual Desktops" ? I've only ever used Win98-SE, XP, 7 &10- 21H2, Support has ended &I'm gonna have to Update to 21H3 @Least, Or switch to ELEVEN ??? FUkK THAT SH1T o_0 Now getting REALLY interested in Linux for the first time... I'ma let it update &stick with it for awhile longer, But in my heart- I AM OUT :D BYE ^_^
I respect your perspective. You convinced me to give Gnome serious consideration for the first time in a decade and I'm really enjoying it. I know you are toying with NixOS. To switch from KDE to Gnome I commented three lines in my configuration.nix, added two, rebuilt, and was presented with the gdm login prompt, no reboot. After login everything was as I left it so to speak. So fast and smooth. Sadly they don't have 45 yet, but 44 is damn cool to work with.
Even if the improvements made in Gnome Software are small, I say that they are huge changes since they significantly improve the UX for less experienced users. It's features like this that Linux is desperately missing.
Agree! But what is this compulsive focus on "beginners" in Linux? It sounds as if we're still fighting Windows 95. Linux lost the Desktop war when it tried to convince people that it's "also" friendly and easy to learn. All that's needed to frustrate a Beginner is that Linux is "different". It has to be different to be worth to be there, so let's forget about beginners vs. "us" and just applaud when somebody does something that works well for US. I also do not agree that Linux is desperately missing much of anything. It seems to have too much. Just look how systemd streamlined Linux distro's. I'm an old school UNIX guy, so I really should hate systemd, and I do hate change. But now that we have it (it's still new to me), the word "Linux" has more meaning again. At the same time, it became less UNIX, but less diversity is worth it. I keep switching back and forth between Linux, Windows and Mac, having spend about 10 years with each of them. The last switch was from Mac to Linux and despite the fact that it was difficult to retrain my fingers and hands this time, I actually didn't miss anything, except perhaps that Mac uses CMD, so that I can use CTRL freely in the shell without having to muddle with key mappings. I don't know what people are talking about who say that Linux has a bad UX. It looks good overall, it's perfectly usable and even ergonomic, at least if you're willing to adapt your habits. There are some flaws and annoyances, but you find similar or worse on both Mac and Windows. Also, what does it mean when you say Linux and then ignore KDE and the 50 other UI paradigms?
@@michaelutech4786 I agree with your point. For me, lack of proper third party app support and a standard dev sdk and package manager (across all distro) are my pain points with linux
@@avhiro Yes, these are certainly a pita. But then again, if you develop for iOS, API's change so much from release to release that you have to keep writing major updates every two years on top of the usual maintenance work. How many different Windows UI frameworks are there which are still supported? How many are dead and people stick to them because a rewrite is too expensive? Software delivery for Linux is a catastrophe. But commercial software that comes as packaged native app is a rarity these days. For my use case at least, I barely notice the change from Mac to Linux other then some muscle memory that needs to fade with time. I'm actually utterly happy to be back to Linux and getting rid of all the corporate guidance I had to endure from Apple and before that from MS. Don't get me wrong, I liked to work on both Mac and Windows, but they have their own ways to annoy their users no less than Linuxes.
I don't know if this is common knowledge, but you can switch workspaces by holding the super key and scrolling the mouse wheel. I use it all the time on my desktop. I haven't seen anyone else mention it for some reason.
As a 125%/150% display scale user I'm quite excited about the possibility of using gnome on my laptop, I switched to plasma because how blurry and awful Gnome was with fractional scaling despite liking Gnome's trackpad gestures far more than Plasma's.
Gnome 45 fixes the only serious issue I had with Gnome. Mouse usability. Now that the indicator allows you to scroll to switch desktop Gnome is finally efficient to use with your mouse. It's become a god tier desktop.
damn I've been using a left-side dock?/panel? that has had the ability to do this since forever, mimicking Ubuntu's version. Sorry you never found it before haha
@@scally9341 Giving me weird vibes that you just assumed I haven't found extensions before. I don't like having a dock or panel but I've been using an extension to enable scrolling on the top panel for years, but now its just natively built into gnome, that's worth celebrating as it improves usability hugely
das true, but you gotta use your keyboard for that, I'm talking purely just mouse movements like with a "normal" desktop like Windows or Mac, now you can do the same with gnome too in a quick way @@qlx-i
The main thing keeping me from liking Gnome is the lack of an official compact theme. I can appreciate the philosophy of libadwaita, and I think the default neutral color schemes are really nice, but it would be so much better if it also had a compact version. There is just so much wasted white space.
@@luca4870 I'm already using a 1440p display. The main reason I got it is so I can fit more on the screen. Having large apps that waste a lot of space defeats the whole purpose.
for me, the fractional scaling alone is a huge improvement since the performance decrease when using the laptop screen vs an external monitor is very noticeable
GTK apps are still going to be rendered at 2x and scaled down to match the requested scale though, right ? I don't understand the difference between this and the fractional scaling that was already available by using a dconf tweak
I jump from Linux Mint to Fedora in 2021 just to experience 'the real' GNOME and never looked back. Before that I've used GNOME on Mint for about 6 months. I think If you tend to constantly switch between apps and workspaces on your PC, there's no other DE more convenient than GNOME.
Great Job. But I agree! There's no reason to defer accent colors anymore. Just implement it for RMS's sake! I'm also dying to see some implementation of GNOME envisioned auto-tiling/mosaic feature!
Yeah I don’t I seats don’t the reluctance. It feels like they get hung up on small details, and thus completely miss out on a feature that really makes their whole ecosystem better. People wouldn’t complain as much about libadwaita/ theming if they could just set a color
@@TheLinuxEXP In the end I think GNOME devs were right about libadwaita as a tool to create a consistent and distinctive look for GNOME. But as the Gradience extension showed, it's actually possible to customize GNOME without making it unusable. I think GNOME devs shoud aknowledge this and give some kind of freedom to their users... remember that there's a COSMIC overhaul just around the corner!
The main issue right now is to work out how to avoid e.g. mixing up destructive actions with suggested ones when red is chosen as an accent color. This is being worked and progressed on, so just be patient :)
I'm happy with the Activities button change so I don't need any custom extensions for that functions and the new Nautilus layout although I don't like they move the hamburger menu. But I still waiting they add the fully functional tray icon to the panel (not the background apps indicator in the quick settings like in the GNOME 44) as default. And I hope the accent color can adapt the color based on the wallpaper and can change the color of the folder icon too.
I was always a window manager only user, my x server broke and i had to use Wayland Gnome and I have to say with just a bit of customisation and shortcuts it can be a very functional minimal desktop and i really do miss finger gestures on laptops
If you want gestures on a wm, you can use libinput-gestures to run a custom script whenever a certain gesture is invoked, I don't think you will be able to get any cool animation while you slide like gnome does tho
@@gljames24 i disagree with the dash to- extensions, that fundamentally changes gnome's workflow. But they should definitely make it easier to access the dash with a mouse
@@raidev_They need to make it easier to use with a touch screen as well. They could make it autohiding. Oh, and add proper font scaling and the minimize and maximize buttons.
@@cameronbosch1213 oh yes definatly, i thought it would be great on touch until i tried it. Swiping up from the bottom should open the activities, not the keyboard. The only way you can do it rn is 3 finger swipes which is not comfortable
There's a few reasons why. First, it doesn't matter that Ubuntu implemented it. Their method is rather hacky, for gtk3 apps they ship a separate theme for each color. Second, there was no Freedesktop portal for accent colors until very recently. That means that even if Gnome had accent colors, that accent color wouldn't be used in other toolkits because there was no standardized way of picking the accent color. Third, some Gnome folks are really ideological and just do not want them. There's also some concerns about contrast and accessibility. It takes work to pick colors that work well, aren't confusing, and that will always have good contrast.
The main issue right now is to work out how to avoid e.g. mixing up destructive actions with suggested ones when red is chosen as an accent color. This is being worked and progressed on, so just be patient :)
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This sounds very good, my only problem with GNOME is just that maximized windows's title bars don't merge together with the header bar into one bar, leaving more space for the window and the menu bars are not either up there. Otherwise it's almost what I like so much with the Unity desktop.
"Just Perfection" extension can fix that, give it a go, you'd have to customize it a bit but if you check off the Panel button it will remove the header, in other applications such as Libre Office I just fullscreen that shit and good to go
@@lorenosborn9862 But it doesn't fix the problem I have with GNOME, wasting a lot of vertical space with a very high title bar and a header bar on top of that. Which is far from optimal with today's 16x9 screens.
Is that Fractional Scaling part accurate? I thought fractional scaling like that had to be incorporated at a toolkit level, and GTK4 still didn't support it officially? And saying that they'll render at your native resolution isn't exactly true anyway because xwayland apps are still rendered at 1x and scaled up on GNOME 45
GTK4 supports fractional, but it's still disabled by default, and under an experimental flag. Mutter supports fracional scaling for many years now, but it's also disabled by default, and under an experimental flag. I don't really understand what Nick's point was about.
All I want is for windows to stop opening at the top left of the screen, they should remember their last open location like MacOS/Windows, frustrates me a lot...
These reviews are always excellent. I'm planning on finally moving from MacOS to Linux on the old Mac with Ubuntu 24.04 LTS because Gnome's last couple of releases will offer the desktop experience I need. Hopefully 24.04 LTS will get at least Gnome 45.
The scrolling through the new 'Activities' button is really nice. Previously you could do so by using the doted 'Show Application' in the lower corner, which was far less discoverable and useful. The 'desktops' feature is now really leading the pack compared to any other OS.
Meh... i'm coming to the conclusion that Gnome just isn't for me. I love it's default clean look. you can make a beautiful looking desktop with Gnome. But that's where it ends for me. While it looks good, the overall UX is just poor in my opinion, especially when compared to other Desktops like KDE or Cinnamon.
I think whether it's the best DE depends on the browser you use and how you use it. On many DEs, you can drag it to the top and then quickly move a tab way to the left. On GNOME, you have to move it slowly if you can't control your mouse well
I really appreciate the "Search everywhere" button. As someone who's recently switched from Windows and totally used to just doing things in the filesystem directly through File explorer, its still really hard to find certain files or install locations i had to look for in Linux and its honestly still really confusing "Folder system layout". Getting it earlier would've saved me a lot of annoyance already.
9:40 Wait, wait, WHAT? Am I seeing this right in GNOME Software? The Flatpak of OBS is no longer being updated at all? Didn't OBS say themselves that the Flatpak version was the recommended one for Linux users?
@@TheLinuxEXP I've gone to OBS Studio's official webpage, and for Linux, they recommend installing it as a Flatpak with a huge white button to download it from Flathub, so I guess GNOME Software or something in-between GNOME Software and Flathub is wrong? This is quite confusing, but I guess that there is nothing to worry about when it comes to OBS *not* being updated. Another thought of mine is that maybe GNOME Software checks for a specific amount of time since the last update was pushed to a Flatpak, and says that an app is unmaintained if it exceeds this pre-set amount of time, which would be absolutely stupid.
OBS Studio's Flatpak is still very much 100% supported and published by the OBS community. Not sure how that banner showed up in this video, I cannot reproduce it locally. GNOME Software doesn't do any checks for update times. It's probably just a bug somewhere in GNOME Software.
Looks like some really good stuff in GNOME 45. I use GNOME as my desktop and I really like it, and it runs pretty well on my system. Excellent video as always.
Nvidia holds an 84% market share in Desktop and Laptop GPU's. Why do Linux TH-camr's still pretend like we don't exist and that there's no reason to ever use x11 over Wayland? Wayland is still bad on Nvidia, especially for gaming. Not because of an opinion. Not because I want it to be (Trust me - I don't). But because it simply still is. It's getting there, and I love that. I have an Nvidia laptop on Arch I use to test all the patches and beta Nvidia drivers, etc. I follow it closely because it affects me. But my main Nvidia machine for gaming will still be using x11 until the forseeable future.
Muy sencillo porque este no sabe de lo que habla, sólo hace videos para meterte 2 anuncios, de los peores Linux tubers para mi gusto, casi empatado con Chris titus
Wait I just watched a video where you said KDE was your favorite. lol Good video and review sir, I appreciate your content and have shared a lot of your content with my Linux friends.
Regarding Nautilus: I still wish that the Gnome Team will bring back type to navigate just like it is implemented on all other operating systems and desktop environments... and on earlier versions of Nautilus.
can you do an update on wayland? Like what's the status of all the problems. E.g. 2 Monitors with different scaling. Blurry electron apps. Do we still need wayland flags for chrome? Does teams work? etc. That would be super helpful. Especially since many distros plan to remove x11. My private desktop runs like a champ with wayland. On the business notebook it's a struggle.
I may not always agree with the decisions the Gnome team makes, but I have to say, Gnome 45 looks good. At least on paper. I still can't wrap my head around their refusal to implement accent colors and full vrr support, like on basically any other OS. These are bog standard features for 2023, it's not 2010 anymore. Anyway, I still prefer Plasma on my desktop, I feel like it works better with either a mouse or a keyboard (Gnome really needs both at the same time on the desktop to be a smooth experience IMO) and the customizations are still endless. But with that said, I have switched to Gnome on my laptop (a 2020 Asus Zephyrus G14, running Garuda Linux) and it's been amazing, honestly. Even if nothing else was better than Plasma, how you can navigate the UI using the touchpad gestures feels so seamless and effortless and like the future, it's not even funny. Absolutely puts Windows to shame, and IMO even beats MacOS mostly (needs a bit of setup with extensions or Touche to do that though). I really, really want to try Gnome on a laptop with a proper touchpad (the one on mine kinda sucks, mostly 'cause it's small) and with a touchscreen. Something tells me Gnome on a touchscreen device will be brilliant.
Gnome 45 is looking great. No big sweeping changes here, but a lot of refinement here. The new activities button in particular is looking very slick and the new full height sidebar might just convince me to give putting the window button on the left hand side for once. I come from Windows, so having the buttons on the right is something I'm used to. The end of life warning is something I wish other app stores would start doing. I recently ran into an Android app that went EoL, which was frustrating. Seeing goof fractional scaling finally arrive in Gnome is making me happy. Now I'm hoping VRR support gets merged into Mutter soon. It's really coming together now.
@@TheLinuxEXP I'm sure it works fine with some apps. I don't get to choose though. I have to use the comms app for my company and I tried every hack on google over several months to make it work reliably and it just won't. It's embarrassing to be leading a call and you can't share your screen for reasons unknown. Then everyone starts blaming your use of Linux when in reality they are restart Windows several times a week because stuff stops working. BTW, saying "It works for me" is a sorta gaslighting statement. I know you 100% don't mean to gaslight, but that's how it makes people feel.
"if your theme has poor contrast between your active and inactive windows..." - you mean, if you use GNOME right? The contrast is so poor and windows don't even have a title bar you can focus on! If you disagree, please go to 2:48 and tell me if you can - at a glance - figure which window is active? This is the dark theme, the default light theme has even worse contrast - see at 5:05.
I disagree with your sentiments as I am very critical. My displeasure comes from the fact that Linux is not a toy and catering to anyone's fancy is not what Linux is about. I commend Gnome for allowing users to switch desktops by directly scrolling on the top left corner now rather than requiring a plugin or using touchpad or keyboard shortcuts !! Good Job Gnome team !
Thanks for this great overview! When I came back to Linux in 2019 after 10 years on Mac it felt like a step down. But with these last few GNOME versions, I think we now actually have a better desktop experience than macOS. So grateful for the devs who put all this work into GNOME.
@@stevequilala It‘s highly subjective and dependent on the user‘s specific use-case, but for most things that matter to me (as a dev, admittedly) Linux with GNOME blows Mac out of the water. What‘s missing is a good platform/ecosystem and better vendor support.
The only thing I don't like about gnome is having to use extensions for basic functionality like a system tray. Removing that is user hostile. Other than that, it is great.
System Tray is not necessarily "basic funcionality" though. It is not essencial for me and many users, while it needed for you and many other users. But it is not a basic featuee.
System tray? What is it? Last time I had something like this on Windows about 12 years ago... I don't miss for some legacy solutions, but there is a lot of good extensions which bring some well known functionality into GNOME. The most disadventage od this DE is a computing power consumption :F It looks very light and smooth, but it isn't. For the default settings I feel like of "animation speed" control, because from many people I heard that it's just too slow by default.
First, gnome, please complete your terminal before literally anything else 🙏 I installed gnome once, thinking it's actually cool, just to realize its terminal doesn't let you customize anything at all, and you can change your default terminal to take its place. Totally showstopper to me who lives on the terminal 80% of the time
@@luca4870 Console should be used for beginner focused distros. For those that want a replacement for the older GNOME Terminal, I think Black Box should replace it, as Terminal isn't GTK 4 and not LibAdwaita themed. TL;DR: Console for beginner user-focused distros, Black Box for intermediate and advanced users.
I recently switched to Hyprland (a Wayland tiling window manager) and my own setup, but I just love GNOME sooo much! If only it was a tiling window manager... I'm still kinda considering switching back to GNOME...
Set 'focus on hover' (do not select 'raise when focused') Fling the mouse over whatever window you want to use, anywhere over the window it really doesn't matter, and start typing No need to click anything, or remember what's up or down It feels like your just kinda pointing your finger at whatever you want to type at and the computer figures it out without having to move any windows around
Glad to see that tweaks is now in settings, it is a lot more convenient. Backlight keyboard controls are also good - a lot better then getting a massive driver app shipped with your preloaded OS that you may or may not use :/.
@06:19 Been trying to get some gnome love but tracker kills me everytime on my laptop sitting at 100% cpu for hours on end killing my battery and this on a fresh install - Nobara. I have yet to find an indexer that isn't so buggy. I need to test Nautilus because current versions are horrendously slow when copying lots of small files 7mins vs 3-4 seconds in Dolphin or rysnc. Progress bar bug...I do miss Krunner though...nothing comes close.
At least i will enjoy with extensions:D when debian gets gnome 45 i am sure all extensions will be there and functional lol..very nice video about gnome 45 !! Now custom gtk themes will finaly have smaller sidebar, more similar to mac..and of course i like more coverage of UI elements in gnome 45 it feels more complete...accent colors dosent bother me cause i never use default libadwaita theme...it looks ok by default but nord and some pastel green color will def. make a better choice...i tested light teme at night it burns my eyes..dark theme has very bright fonts..they should consider some color scheme not only accent colors..
@@raidev_ each debian version has 5 years of support, even more..it can be calculated what version of gnome it will have..but that version will be stable along with kernel for sure..
Truth be said nothing beats Gnome when the discussion of what is the best Interface in Linux. It's the only one that is both aesthetically pleasing and consistent.
1:25 - I'm on GNOME 43 and you can switch between desktops with a mouse too (although I've set shortcuts on my kbd like Win+1/2/3/4, as I prefer it). For example. If you're looking at a Desktop you can hold Win key, then scroll with the mouse and it will switch between desktops. Or, you can touch the Activities and then directly scroll with the mouse for the same effect.
I love gnome. Being a long term macOS and windows user, gnome under fedora gives me such a fast, responsive and well polished experience, it’s amazing. I can finally spend my systems resources on my work instead of just running the operating system (windows was always eating up 16GB of my RAM and was still slow), so that’s a welcome change. Can’t wait for the next fedora release brining in a new kernel release and gnome 45!
GTK apps are still going to be rendered at 2x and scaled down to match the requested scale though, right ? I don't understand the difference between this and the fractional scaling that was already available by using a dconf tweak
Does the update to Mutter mean that translucent theming will be supported? Historically, most people seem to install a fork of mutter called mutter-rounded to get translucent theming in Gnome, but it doesn't even support Gnome 44 yet. Anybody know?
Re: Accent colors - it is very unlikely these will make it into GNOME 46. GNOME Shell MR 2715 is still open and has been stalled for 5 months already and is currently unmergable, and the same goes for almost all of its dependencies. There is apparently reluctance in the GNOME dev community to give users the option to make desktops "unpretty" (as per some subjective beauty standard that GNOME devs pretend to agree on). Brodie Robertson has done a length video about the subject not a long time ago.
One extension that might be permanently broken is Material Shell the dev is working on turning it into a window manager to make development/maintenance more manageable
I am really happy to see the Linux community finally coming around to liking GNOME. It wasn't so long ago that mindlessly hating on it, was just the normal and cool thing to do. But when I heard the reason why, it was people saying that it's too much like MacOS (as a gal that is currently stuck on a Mac... *god, I wish that was true* ) and it was generally just a complete misunderstanding of what it wanted to be, people, talking about it, being a touchscreen interface, and so on, when it never really was back then (ironically, it's now growing more and more into that). I've loved gnome for a long time, and I feel like it's finally getting the praises it deserves. And that makes me happy. I'll grant you this, it also helps that the team polished it a bit, especially performance, wise, it took a while to get there, especially in the GNOME 3 days, but still.
As someone that was a long time GNOME user that finally switched to Plamsa like a year ago this is really weird to see, because i feel completely differently about it. I started with GNOME 2 on Ubuntu around 2012 and always found it weird that so many people were bashing it throughout the years, especially beginnig with GNOME 3 and I always defended it, even though I thought GNOME 3 (and following) was only really usable with the Dash-to-Panel extension. (And i still think that! The stock panel is utterly unusable to me ) I switched to Plasma about a year or so ago when the GNOME devs made it clear that they want to competely abandon themeing i favor of libadwaita and basically restrict customization. After years of defending GNOME that was the final nail that made me switch. So it's really weird to me that after years of bashing it NOW everyone is praising GNOME when they basically turned into the Microsoft of the Linux world in terms of customization.
@albion_i Cinnamon seems to be stagnating and has still yet to work on Wayland support in 2023. Even Xfce & LXQt are further along than Cinnamon. And Cinnamon feels redundant when KDE Plasma & Xfce exist.
@@cameronbosch1213 I tried to install plasma on mint but it kept fucking with the login screen so is didn't use it. I'm not familiar with Wayland so I don't fully understand, I still like Cinnamon.
@@albion_i Yeah, try Tuxedo OS instead of Mint. It's basically the same thing as Mint (no Snaps, flatpaks out of the box, and a stable LTS base) but with KDE Plasma and a rolling KDE base and kernel versions.
I can't agree with your pov on the nautilus back/forward buttons. They are good in that panel, yes they limit space, but it's easy to understand for a user, that going back/forward will only affect the right side of the panel.
Glad that the keyboard backlight controls got added. Newer macbooks don’t have hardware backlight controls, so for a while there was just no way to change the backlight if you were using gnome
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Been on Gnome forever... literally! To the point that to an extent for me "Linux == Gnome"!
How do you feel about Ecosia's new "privacy policy" change?
Sooo what's the point of having all these "Virtual Desktops" ?
I've only ever used Win98-SE, XP, 7 &10- 21H2,
Support has ended &I'm gonna have to Update to 21H3 @Least,
Or switch to ELEVEN ???
FUkK THAT SH1T o_0
Now getting REALLY interested in Linux for the first time...
I'ma let it update &stick with it for awhile longer,
But in my heart- I AM OUT :D
BYE ^_^
I respect your perspective. You convinced me to give Gnome serious consideration for the first time in a decade and I'm really enjoying it.
I know you are toying with NixOS. To switch from KDE to Gnome I commented three lines in my configuration.nix, added two, rebuilt, and was presented with the gdm login prompt, no reboot. After login everything was as I left it so to speak. So fast and smooth. Sadly they don't have 45 yet, but 44 is damn cool to work with.
Even if the improvements made in Gnome Software are small, I say that they are huge changes since they significantly improve the UX for less experienced users. It's features like this that Linux is desperately missing.
Yeah, I'm no beginner but I still prefer them
Agree! But what is this compulsive focus on "beginners" in Linux? It sounds as if we're still fighting Windows 95. Linux lost the Desktop war when it tried to convince people that it's "also" friendly and easy to learn. All that's needed to frustrate a Beginner is that Linux is "different". It has to be different to be worth to be there, so let's forget about beginners vs. "us" and just applaud when somebody does something that works well for US.
I also do not agree that Linux is desperately missing much of anything. It seems to have too much. Just look how systemd streamlined Linux distro's. I'm an old school UNIX guy, so I really should hate systemd, and I do hate change. But now that we have it (it's still new to me), the word "Linux" has more meaning again. At the same time, it became less UNIX, but less diversity is worth it.
I keep switching back and forth between Linux, Windows and Mac, having spend about 10 years with each of them. The last switch was from Mac to Linux and despite the fact that it was difficult to retrain my fingers and hands this time, I actually didn't miss anything, except perhaps that Mac uses CMD, so that I can use CTRL freely in the shell without having to muddle with key mappings. I don't know what people are talking about who say that Linux has a bad UX. It looks good overall, it's perfectly usable and even ergonomic, at least if you're willing to adapt your habits. There are some flaws and annoyances, but you find similar or worse on both Mac and Windows. Also, what does it mean when you say Linux and then ignore KDE and the 50 other UI paradigms?
@@michaelutech4786 I agree with your point. For me, lack of proper third party app support and a standard dev sdk and package manager (across all distro) are my pain points with linux
@@avhiro Yes, these are certainly a pita. But then again, if you develop for iOS, API's change so much from release to release that you have to keep writing major updates every two years on top of the usual maintenance work. How many different Windows UI frameworks are there which are still supported? How many are dead and people stick to them because a rewrite is too expensive?
Software delivery for Linux is a catastrophe. But commercial software that comes as packaged native app is a rarity these days. For my use case at least, I barely notice the change from Mac to Linux other then some muscle memory that needs to fade with time. I'm actually utterly happy to be back to Linux and getting rid of all the corporate guidance I had to endure from Apple and before that from MS. Don't get me wrong, I liked to work on both Mac and Windows, but they have their own ways to annoy their users no less than Linuxes.
Keep in mind that there are way more changes to it, nick just had to focus on one. The safety dialogue, has been completely revamped for e.g.
I don't know if this is common knowledge, but you can switch workspaces by holding the super key and scrolling the mouse wheel. I use it all the time on my desktop. I haven't seen anyone else mention it for some reason.
I didn’t know that!
Nobody knows that because gnome fails the most basic gui tenant, discoverability
As a 125%/150% display scale user I'm quite excited about the possibility of using gnome on my laptop, I switched to plasma because how blurry and awful Gnome was with fractional scaling despite liking Gnome's trackpad gestures far more than Plasma's.
Yeah. Even GTK it self (Adwaita Demo in gnome-nightly with GDK_DEBUG=gl-fractional) is a blurry mess.
Just change font scaling in tweaks
@@limpa756 Unfortunately I need to set multiple DPIs which only works with Wayland scale-monitor-framebuffer.
@@Kimiblock and now you know why fractional scaling on the GTK GL renderer is in an experimental state.
@@oro6768 Ironically Adwaita demo under KDE works fine :)
Yay supported fractional scaling! Now I can use my 1440p display at 150% without being annoyed!
I really like all the polish and the tweaks ... they're doing such a great job!
I like the Polish too, but I wish he'd pronounce "gnome" correctly. ESL is likely the problem.
I like to respect and appreciate GNOME from a distance, as i much prefer Plasma's look and feel.
Gnome 45 fixes the only serious issue I had with Gnome. Mouse usability. Now that the indicator allows you to scroll to switch desktop Gnome is finally efficient to use with your mouse. It's become a god tier desktop.
damn I've been using a left-side dock?/panel? that has had the ability to do this since forever, mimicking Ubuntu's version. Sorry you never found it before haha
You can use the hot corner and mouse scroll wheel to switch workspaces.
@@scally9341 Giving me weird vibes that you just assumed I haven't found extensions before. I don't like having a dock or panel but I've been using an extension to enable scrolling on the top panel for years, but now its just natively built into gnome, that's worth celebrating as it improves usability hugely
You could do that with Super + scroll anywhere already if i'm not mistaken
das true, but you gotta use your keyboard for that, I'm talking purely just mouse movements like with a "normal" desktop like Windows or Mac, now you can do the same with gnome too in a quick way @@qlx-i
The main thing keeping me from liking Gnome is the lack of an official compact theme. I can appreciate the philosophy of libadwaita, and I think the default neutral color schemes are really nice, but it would be so much better if it also had a compact version. There is just so much wasted white space.
It does feel a bit chunky
upgrade your display! it feels perfect on my desktop at 1440p and even on my smaller laptop at 1080p...
@@luca4870 I'm already using a 1440p display. The main reason I got it is so I can fit more on the screen. Having large apps that waste a lot of space defeats the whole purpose.
And 720p screens are still a fairly common thing, especially on lower-end devices and second-hand computers.
@@mmbb1645 a 720p laptop probably doesn't even have the power to run gnome at this point tbh, but hey i'm all in for more settings in gnome.
for me, the fractional scaling alone is a huge improvement since the performance decrease when using the laptop screen vs an external monitor is very noticeable
GTK apps are still going to be rendered at 2x and scaled down to match the requested scale though, right ?
I don't understand the difference between this and the fractional scaling that was already available by using a dconf tweak
GNOME is an absolutely fantastic project. Took me a while to get used to it but now I never want to use another desktop environment.
I jump from Linux Mint to Fedora in 2021 just to experience 'the real' GNOME and never looked back. Before that I've used GNOME on Mint for about 6 months. I think If you tend to constantly switch between apps and workspaces on your PC, there's no other DE more convenient than GNOME.
Great Job. But I agree! There's no reason to defer accent colors anymore. Just implement it for RMS's sake! I'm also dying to see some implementation of GNOME envisioned auto-tiling/mosaic feature!
Yeah I don’t I seats don’t the reluctance. It feels like they get hung up on small details, and thus completely miss out on a feature that really makes their whole ecosystem better. People wouldn’t complain as much about libadwaita/ theming if they could just set a color
@@TheLinuxEXP In the end I think GNOME devs were right about libadwaita as a tool to create a consistent and distinctive look for GNOME. But as the Gradience extension showed, it's actually possible to customize GNOME without making it unusable. I think GNOME devs shoud aknowledge this and give some kind of freedom to their users... remember that there's a COSMIC overhaul just around the corner!
The main issue right now is to work out how to avoid e.g. mixing up destructive actions with suggested ones when red is chosen as an accent color. This is being worked and progressed on, so just be patient :)
If you had me choose I would take the tiling waaaay before accent colors
I'm happy with the Activities button change so I don't need any custom extensions for that functions and the new Nautilus layout although I don't like they move the hamburger menu.
But I still waiting they add the fully functional tray icon to the panel (not the background apps indicator in the quick settings like in the GNOME 44) as default. And I hope the accent color can adapt the color based on the wallpaper and can change the color of the folder icon too.
I was always a window manager only user, my x server broke and i had to use Wayland Gnome and I have to say with just a bit of customisation and shortcuts it can be a very functional minimal desktop and i really do miss finger gestures on laptops
Honestly, they need to just add in the top extensions like dash to panel/dock and some of the settings in tweaks back in and Gnome would be perfect.
If you want gestures on a wm, you can use libinput-gestures to run a custom script whenever a certain gesture is invoked, I don't think you will be able to get any cool animation while you slide like gnome does tho
@@gljames24 i disagree with the dash to- extensions, that fundamentally changes gnome's workflow. But they should definitely make it easier to access the dash with a mouse
@@raidev_They need to make it easier to use with a touch screen as well. They could make it autohiding. Oh, and add proper font scaling and the minimize and maximize buttons.
@@cameronbosch1213 oh yes definatly, i thought it would be great on touch until i tried it. Swiping up from the bottom should open the activities, not the keyboard. The only way you can do it rn is 3 finger swipes which is not comfortable
8:11 nooo don't kill your cat 😭
Hahaha I would never!
@@TheLinuxEXP yayyy cat is saved 🎉
I'm suprised they haven't added accent colors considering Ubuntu has had them implemented since 22.04
Yeah, it’s quite baffling
There's a few reasons why.
First, it doesn't matter that Ubuntu implemented it. Their method is rather hacky, for gtk3 apps they ship a separate theme for each color.
Second, there was no Freedesktop portal for accent colors until very recently. That means that even if Gnome had accent colors, that accent color wouldn't be used in other toolkits because there was no standardized way of picking the accent color.
Third, some Gnome folks are really ideological and just do not want them. There's also some concerns about contrast and accessibility. It takes work to pick colors that work well, aren't confusing, and that will always have good contrast.
@@that_leaflet I see, I was just making a slight comment that wasn't really a giant issue because I'll stick to ubuntu anyways
@@that_leafletThat's the problem with GNOME; some of the developers are terrible people and should not be running GNOME.
The main issue right now is to work out how to avoid e.g. mixing up destructive actions with suggested ones when red is chosen as an accent color. This is being worked and progressed on, so just be patient :)
Another thing I'd like to see is a native way to have the top bar on more than one screen.
Can't wait for this update! Looks great!
* Plasma updates *
My feed: "KDE Plasma is Now the Best Desktop Environment!"
* Gnome Updates *
My feed: "Gnome is Now the Best Desktop Environment!"
* System76 releases a new screenshot *
My Feed: "Cosmic -Is- Will Be the Best Desktop Environment!"
Please just let me enjoy what I have for a minute, LinuxTube. I beg you.
Just wanted to say that I appreciate the little jokes you put in while using apps. You are seen.
Thanks 😁
yeah that cat sacrifice event in the calender was funny
Me too!
I really appreciate the stuff you do, keep it up Nick!
Gnome is good, but call me old-fashioned I like the menu at the bottom. 😊
This sounds very good, my only problem with GNOME is just that maximized windows's title bars don't merge together with the header bar into one bar, leaving more space for the window and the menu bars are not either up there. Otherwise it's almost what I like so much with the Unity desktop.
"Just Perfection" extension can fix that, give it a go, you'd have to customize it a bit but if you check off the Panel button it will remove the header, in other applications such as Libre Office I just fullscreen that shit and good to go
Check the Unite extension, it may do some other stuff that you may not want but you can toggle them off in the extension's settings
@@freeeeplaySadly the Unite extension produces a lot of upgrade errors.
Just 'double-click- on the title bar and it will toggle the maximize to a smaller window.
@@lorenosborn9862
But it doesn't fix the problem I have with GNOME, wasting a lot of vertical space with a very high title bar and a header bar on top of that. Which is far from optimal with today's 16x9 screens.
Is that Fractional Scaling part accurate? I thought fractional scaling like that had to be incorporated at a toolkit level, and GTK4 still didn't support it officially? And saying that they'll render at your native resolution isn't exactly true anyway because xwayland apps are still rendered at 1x and scaled up on GNOME 45
GTK4 supports fractional, but it's still disabled by default, and under an experimental flag. Mutter supports fracional scaling for many years now, but it's also disabled by default, and under an experimental flag. I don't really understand what Nick's point was about.
All I want is for windows to stop opening at the top left of the screen, they should remember their last open location like MacOS/Windows, frustrates me a lot...
These reviews are always excellent. I'm planning on finally moving from MacOS to Linux on the old Mac with Ubuntu 24.04 LTS because Gnome's last couple of releases will offer the desktop experience I need. Hopefully 24.04 LTS will get at least Gnome 45.
The scrolling through the new 'Activities' button is really nice. Previously you could do so by using the doted 'Show Application' in the lower corner, which was far less discoverable and useful. The 'desktops' feature is now really leading the pack compared to any other OS.
Meh... i'm coming to the conclusion that Gnome just isn't for me. I love it's default clean look. you can make a beautiful looking desktop with Gnome. But that's where it ends for me. While it looks good, the overall UX is just poor in my opinion, especially when compared to other Desktops like KDE or Cinnamon.
I think whether it's the best DE depends on the browser you use and how you use it. On many DEs, you can drag it to the top and then quickly move a tab way to the left. On GNOME, you have to move it slowly if you can't control your mouse well
I really appreciate the "Search everywhere" button. As someone who's recently switched from Windows and totally used to just doing things in the filesystem directly through File explorer, its still really hard to find certain files or install locations i had to look for in Linux and its honestly still really confusing "Folder system layout". Getting it earlier would've saved me a lot of annoyance already.
what's IMO? sorry not good with acronyms
In my opinion :)
@@sandeepv3858it MUST opensource
also IMHO means "in my humble opinion"
@@TheLinuxEXP thank you
thanks!@@mortezamohammadimortem4808
9:40 Wait, wait, WHAT? Am I seeing this right in GNOME Software? The Flatpak of OBS is no longer being updated at all? Didn't OBS say themselves that the Flatpak version was the recommended one for Linux users?
Not sure, that felt weird to me as well
@@TheLinuxEXP I've gone to OBS Studio's official webpage, and for Linux, they recommend installing it as a Flatpak with a huge white button to download it from Flathub, so I guess GNOME Software or something in-between GNOME Software and Flathub is wrong?
This is quite confusing, but I guess that there is nothing to worry about when it comes to OBS *not* being updated.
Another thought of mine is that maybe GNOME Software checks for a specific amount of time since the last update was pushed to a Flatpak, and says that an app is unmaintained if it exceeds this pre-set amount of time, which would be absolutely stupid.
OBS Studio's Flatpak is still very much 100% supported and published by the OBS community. Not sure how that banner showed up in this video, I cannot reproduce it locally. GNOME Software doesn't do any checks for update times. It's probably just a bug somewhere in GNOME Software.
@@GeorgesStavracas Most likely. Thanks for checking it out.
They finally realised Flatpak is a garbage lol.
Always happy to see GNOME improvements.
I don't use vanilla Gnome ( using Pop ) but this was a great video covering Gnome changes 👍 I look forward to when you can compare Gnome to COSMIC.
Perfect timing as I have just started to use Debian for the first time and I am using it with Gnome as vanilla as I can bear.
Looks like some really good stuff in GNOME 45. I use GNOME as my desktop and I really like it, and it runs pretty well on my system. Excellent video as always.
I love Gnome, maybe because of Ubuntu, but I really love it, it's just perfect 😍
Nvidia holds an 84% market share in Desktop and Laptop GPU's. Why do Linux TH-camr's still pretend like we don't exist and that there's no reason to ever use x11 over Wayland? Wayland is still bad on Nvidia, especially for gaming. Not because of an opinion. Not because I want it to be (Trust me - I don't). But because it simply still is.
It's getting there, and I love that. I have an Nvidia laptop on Arch I use to test all the patches and beta Nvidia drivers, etc. I follow it closely because it affects me. But my main Nvidia machine for gaming will still be using x11 until the forseeable future.
Muy sencillo porque este no sabe de lo que habla, sólo hace videos para meterte 2 anuncios, de los peores Linux tubers para mi gusto, casi empatado con Chris titus
I only use Nvidia GPUs and I run Wayland. You don’t need X11 for Nvidia anymore.
Plus Wayland is missing useful automation tools like, xautomation and xdotool.
@@TheLinuxEXP You clearly don't game
Gnome is better than any other Linux DE, MacOS and Windows. It’s just the best.
Wait I just watched a video where you said KDE was your favorite. lol
Good video and review sir, I appreciate your content and have shared a lot of your content with my Linux friends.
Every distro hopper's dilemma is that they never know which distro is their favorite 😉
Regarding Nautilus: I still wish that the Gnome Team will bring back type to navigate just like it is implemented on all other operating systems and desktop environments... and on earlier versions of Nautilus.
Agreed, I use Thunar on my system for this exact reason.
can you do an update on wayland? Like what's the status of all the problems. E.g. 2 Monitors with different scaling. Blurry electron apps. Do we still need wayland flags for chrome? Does teams work? etc.
That would be super helpful. Especially since many distros plan to remove x11. My private desktop runs like a champ with wayland. On the business notebook it's a struggle.
Have been running teams on Wayland for at least a year I think, it's okay for what we do. Besides the fact that it is teams.
I really like gnome. Its clean and funtional. The only thing that is keeping me from gnome is lack of VRR support.
There is a Copr package in Fedora that is compiled with the VRR beta fixes, works fine most of the time haha
As an Algerian I love the "Algerian Dinar to Algerian Dinar" in the calculator app. 😁😁
Gnome + Flatpak is my favorite OS, it doesn't matter the distro I'm using, as long as I can use both, I can have the same experience always
Dear friend, you forgot to mention that Evince has been ported to GTK 4. It was a huge task for maintainers.
I came from Mac to gnome and I love it I might not even go back lol
Damn it Nick.. now I want to install Fedora 39 beta. It's all you fault if it goes wrong 😉
I may not always agree with the decisions the Gnome team makes, but I have to say, Gnome 45 looks good. At least on paper. I still can't wrap my head around their refusal to implement accent colors and full vrr support, like on basically any other OS. These are bog standard features for 2023, it's not 2010 anymore. Anyway, I still prefer Plasma on my desktop, I feel like it works better with either a mouse or a keyboard (Gnome really needs both at the same time on the desktop to be a smooth experience IMO) and the customizations are still endless. But with that said, I have switched to Gnome on my laptop (a 2020 Asus Zephyrus G14, running Garuda Linux) and it's been amazing, honestly. Even if nothing else was better than Plasma, how you can navigate the UI using the touchpad gestures feels so seamless and effortless and like the future, it's not even funny. Absolutely puts Windows to shame, and IMO even beats MacOS mostly (needs a bit of setup with extensions or Touche to do that though). I really, really want to try Gnome on a laptop with a proper touchpad (the one on mine kinda sucks, mostly 'cause it's small) and with a touchscreen. Something tells me Gnome on a touchscreen device will be brilliant.
Gnome 45 is looking great. No big sweeping changes here, but a lot of refinement here. The new activities button in particular is looking very slick and the new full height sidebar might just convince me to give putting the window button on the left hand side for once. I come from Windows, so having the buttons on the right is something I'm used to.
The end of life warning is something I wish other app stores would start doing. I recently ran into an Android app that went EoL, which was frustrating.
Seeing goof fractional scaling finally arrive in Gnome is making me happy. Now I'm hoping VRR support gets merged into Mutter soon. It's really coming together now.
"X11 for some reasons" yes, because screen sharing is dogshit on Wayland.
It works fine for me
@@TheLinuxEXP I'm sure it works fine with some apps. I don't get to choose though. I have to use the comms app for my company and I tried every hack on google over several months to make it work reliably and it just won't. It's embarrassing to be leading a call and you can't share your screen for reasons unknown. Then everyone starts blaming your use of Linux when in reality they are restart Windows several times a week because stuff stops working.
BTW, saying "It works for me" is a sorta gaslighting statement. I know you 100% don't mean to gaslight, but that's how it makes people feel.
Excellent video. Thank you!
"if your theme has poor contrast between your active and inactive windows..." - you mean, if you use GNOME right? The contrast is so poor and windows don't even have a title bar you can focus on!
If you disagree, please go to 2:48 and tell me if you can - at a glance - figure which window is active?
This is the dark theme, the default light theme has even worse contrast - see at 5:05.
I disagree with your sentiments as I am very critical.
My displeasure comes from the fact that Linux is not a toy and catering to anyone's fancy is not what Linux is about.
I commend Gnome for allowing users to switch desktops by directly scrolling on the top left corner now rather than requiring a plugin or using touchpad or keyboard shortcuts !!
Good Job Gnome team !
I'm now to Linux distros! Why I'm seeing Fedora logo instead of Gnome logo in 'about' settings section? 🤔
Thanks for this great overview! When I came back to Linux in 2019 after 10 years on Mac it felt like a step down. But with these last few GNOME versions, I think we now actually have a better desktop experience than macOS. So grateful for the devs who put all this work into GNOME.
“Better” is a stretch. Linux is a lot better than it used to be, but nowhere close to the level of polish of macOS
@@stevequilala It‘s highly subjective and dependent on the user‘s specific use-case, but for most things that matter to me (as a dev, admittedly) Linux with GNOME blows Mac out of the water. What‘s missing is a good platform/ecosystem and better vendor support.
The only thing I don't like about gnome is having to use extensions for basic functionality like a system tray. Removing that is user hostile. Other than that, it is great.
Other than this (📃), it is great!
System Tray is not necessarily "basic funcionality" though. It is not essencial for me and many users, while it needed for you and many other users. But it is not a basic featuee.
I don't miss the system tray, but needing an extension for a random shuffle of the desktop background image is a bit weird.
System tray? What is it? Last time I had something like this on Windows about 12 years ago... I don't miss for some legacy solutions, but there is a lot of good extensions which bring some well known functionality into GNOME. The most disadventage od this DE is a computing power consumption :F It looks very light and smooth, but it isn't. For the default settings I feel like of "animation speed" control, because from many people I heard that it's just too slow by default.
@@szmonszmonindeed I don’t know why this gets brought up again and again while that is the least of gnomes many many problems
This may make me switch from Plasma.... Hek, it's so pretty 💜
IMHO, KDE Plasma is the best desktop environment. Gnome Desktop is good but managing shell extensions is a mess, which keeps me away from it.
Gnome needs a fuck ton of extensions just to do what plasma do out the box with much less ram
Exactly! Gnome need at least 10 extension to be usable for me and customizeable, whereas KDE Plasma has everything I need out of the box.
I can't get over how happy I'm that Wayland fractional scaling is fixed
Well, in gnome 43 I felt cursor's hungs on even relatively small loads, in 44 version it's a way better. And I am happy to hear that now it's solved.
First, gnome, please complete your terminal before literally anything else 🙏
I installed gnome once, thinking it's actually cool, just to realize its terminal doesn't let you customize anything at all, and you can change your default terminal to take its place. Totally showstopper to me who lives on the terminal 80% of the time
There are plenty of other great GNOME terminals, like Black Box :) But yeah, Console is barebones
@@TheLinuxEXPYeah, Black Box is awesome. It should really replace Console.
@@cameronbosch1213 console is great for most people just install another terminal if you don't like it.
@@luca4870 Console should be used for beginner focused distros. For those that want a replacement for the older GNOME Terminal, I think Black Box should replace it, as Terminal isn't GTK 4 and not LibAdwaita themed.
TL;DR: Console for beginner user-focused distros, Black Box for intermediate and advanced users.
If you mostly use terminal, why you don't use a tiling window manager?
Event: KILL MY CAT
"Serves him right for playing with my 40K minis while I was sleeping"
Your timed upload is (kinda) ruined by the gnome infra outage 😅
Hahaha yeah it sucked to finish the video… lacked a lot of info to confirm a few things…
Now really, there is no reason not to use linux instead of windows it's so beautiful with gnome, ok if you want to play games you still need pc
I recently switched to Hyprland (a Wayland tiling window manager) and my own setup, but I just love GNOME sooo much! If only it was a tiling window manager...
I'm still kinda considering switching back to GNOME...
Actually looks awesome and seems smoother. But I will stick to Plasma :) Nice video
Hmm I don't really like how the burger menu is on the left in some places and on the right on browsers, etc.
Set 'focus on hover' (do not select 'raise when focused')
Fling the mouse over whatever window you want to use, anywhere over the window it really doesn't matter, and start typing
No need to click anything, or remember what's up or down
It feels like your just kinda pointing your finger at whatever you want to type at and the computer figures it out without having to move any windows around
Hello Sir..wonderful and informative channel. What distro was this ?
gnome os, its basically just a place where gnome team puts all things they want to test publicly, its not recommended for daily driving
Yep, GNOME OS, don’t use it as a daily driver, it’s really just meant for development and preview
Very polished DE I must say
taskbar > dock though
and the top bar takes away the infinite vertical size of tabs and such
Glad to see that tweaks is now in settings, it is a lot more convenient.
Backlight keyboard controls are also good - a lot better then getting a massive driver app shipped with your preloaded OS that you may or may not use :/.
1) they should replace files (nautilus) with nemo. Nautilus lacks of every feature that all the rest support. It's just painful and neither fast
Nemo is better but not by a lot.
@06:19 Been trying to get some gnome love but tracker kills me everytime on my laptop sitting at 100% cpu for hours on end killing my battery and this on a fresh install - Nobara. I have yet to find an indexer that isn't so buggy. I need to test Nautilus because current versions are horrendously slow when copying lots of small files 7mins vs 3-4 seconds in Dolphin or rysnc. Progress bar bug...I do miss Krunner though...nothing comes close.
GNOME now regularly adds new features rather than removing useful features. Hell has frozen over.
Nah they borked Super+Grab Window+Scroll to move workspaces to other workspaces.
At least i will enjoy with extensions:D when debian gets gnome 45 i am sure all extensions will be there and functional lol..very nice video about gnome 45 !! Now custom gtk themes will finaly have smaller sidebar, more similar to mac..and of course i like more coverage of UI elements in gnome 45 it feels more complete...accent colors dosent bother me cause i never use default libadwaita theme...it looks ok by default but nord and some pastel green color will def. make a better choice...i tested light teme at night it burns my eyes..dark theme has very bright fonts..they should consider some color scheme not only accent colors..
debian won't get 45, by the time there's a new version we'll be on gnome 53 or something
@@raidev_ each debian version has 5 years of support, even more..it can be calculated what version of gnome it will have..but that version will be stable along with kernel for sure..
I dont use gnome anymore. But I think gnome is definitely going the right way. Gnome is/should be the first experience a new user has with linux.
Truth be said nothing beats Gnome when the discussion of what is the best Interface in Linux. It's the only one that is both aesthetically pleasing and consistent.
Agreed!
1:25 - I'm on GNOME 43 and you can switch between desktops with a mouse too (although I've set shortcuts on my kbd like Win+1/2/3/4, as I prefer it). For example. If you're looking at a Desktop you can hold Win key, then scroll with the mouse and it will switch between desktops.
Or, you can touch the Activities and then directly scroll with the mouse for the same effect.
Gnome still has no way of controlling scrolling speed out of the box.
Is there an extension to even do that?
@@AvWijk85 No idea.
Finally that stupid activities button will be gone!!!!!
I love gnome. Being a long term macOS and windows user, gnome under fedora gives me such a fast, responsive and well polished experience, it’s amazing.
I can finally spend my systems resources on my work instead of just running the operating system (windows was always eating up 16GB of my RAM and was still slow), so that’s a welcome change.
Can’t wait for the next fedora release brining in a new kernel release and gnome 45!
GTK apps are still going to be rendered at 2x and scaled down to match the requested scale though, right ?
I don't understand the difference between this and the fractional scaling that was already available by using a dconf tweak
Does the update to Mutter mean that translucent theming will be supported? Historically, most people seem to install a fork of mutter called mutter-rounded to get translucent theming in Gnome, but it doesn't even support Gnome 44 yet. Anybody know?
"...you'll not get to enjoy everything that it breaks"
someone slap this guy for calling locked down gnome good.
Hmm now we need dynamic triple buffering.
Yeah, they didn’t add it yet, I think it’s still considered too buggy
I was going to check the merge request but half of gnome services are down right now...
Ubuntu lo trae implementado, debían también, tienes un repositorio para instalarlo en aur y en fedora
@@d.paradyss8791 yeah I tried it but there are bugs
Re: Accent colors - it is very unlikely these will make it into GNOME 46. GNOME Shell MR 2715 is still open and has been stalled for 5 months already and is currently unmergable, and the same goes for almost all of its dependencies. There is apparently reluctance in the GNOME dev community to give users the option to make desktops "unpretty" (as per some subjective beauty standard that GNOME devs pretend to agree on). Brodie Robertson has done a length video about the subject not a long time ago.
I'm happy for GNOME
But still waiting for COSMIC, even though I've settled on Tuxedo OS for now
Where are the buttons to minimize/maximize a window?
Is no one wondering why the keyboard backlight slider doesn't have an icon on the left indicating what it does? It's a strange oversight.
One extension that might be permanently broken is Material Shell the dev is working on turning it into a window manager to make development/maintenance more manageable
it was weird that that was an extension in the firs place
I am really happy to see the Linux community finally coming around to liking GNOME. It wasn't so long ago that mindlessly hating on it, was just the normal and cool thing to do. But when I heard the reason why, it was people saying that it's too much like MacOS (as a gal that is currently stuck on a Mac... *god, I wish that was true* ) and it was generally just a complete misunderstanding of what it wanted to be, people, talking about it, being a touchscreen interface, and so on, when it never really was back then (ironically, it's now growing more and more into that). I've loved gnome for a long time, and I feel like it's finally getting the praises it deserves. And that makes me happy. I'll grant you this, it also helps that the team polished it a bit, especially performance, wise, it took a while to get there, especially in the GNOME 3 days, but still.
As someone that was a long time GNOME user that finally switched to Plamsa like a year ago this is really weird to see, because i feel completely differently about it.
I started with GNOME 2 on Ubuntu around 2012 and always found it weird that so many people were bashing it throughout the years, especially beginnig with GNOME 3 and I always defended it, even though I thought GNOME 3 (and following) was only really usable with the Dash-to-Panel extension.
(And i still think that! The stock panel is utterly unusable to me )
I switched to Plasma about a year or so ago when the GNOME devs made it clear that they want to competely abandon themeing i favor of libadwaita and basically restrict customization. After years of defending GNOME that was the final nail that made me switch.
So it's really weird to me that after years of bashing it NOW everyone is praising GNOME when they basically turned into the Microsoft of the Linux world in terms of customization.
I don't get it, is OBS flatpak being discontinued or gnome software over reacting to a lack of recent updates?
Can you review the avdan OS? I looks great and I want to try it but I have some doubts. Thank you.
I'm a beginner and have only used gnome stock but I prefer the environment that mint uses. I belife it's called cinnamon
I don't like Cinnamon.
@@cameronbosch1213 how come? And is gnome better than cinnamon ?
@albion_i Cinnamon seems to be stagnating and has still yet to work on Wayland support in 2023. Even Xfce & LXQt are further along than Cinnamon.
And Cinnamon feels redundant when KDE Plasma & Xfce exist.
@@cameronbosch1213 I tried to install plasma on mint but it kept fucking with the login screen so is didn't use it. I'm not familiar with Wayland so I don't fully understand, I still like Cinnamon.
@@albion_i Yeah, try Tuxedo OS instead of Mint. It's basically the same thing as Mint (no Snaps, flatpaks out of the box, and a stable LTS base) but with KDE Plasma and a rolling KDE base and kernel versions.
That's funny, because like 6 months ago, Plasma was your favourite. :P
I’ve been using GNOME for more than a year now, so, no ;) I always liked Plasma, but never as much as I like GNOME!
I can't agree with your pov on the nautilus back/forward buttons. They are good in that panel, yes they limit space, but it's easy to understand for a user, that going back/forward will only affect the right side of the panel.
That’s never been the issue, it’s not confusing at all. It’s just totally space inefficient.
@@TheLinuxEXP It's just a bit more spacial
Glad that the keyboard backlight controls got added. Newer macbooks don’t have hardware backlight controls, so for a while there was just no way to change the backlight if you were using gnome