RAPTOR KNIGHTS of the EBON CLAW - Dark Elves vs. Empire - Total War Warhammer 2 Multiplayer
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ธ.ค. 2024
- In this Total War Warhammer 2 multiplayer game, the Dark Elves field a cavalry heavy build as Malekith the Witch King, Cold Ones and the Dreadknights of the Ebon Claw face off against Balthasar Gelt and the power of Demigryphs, Reiksguard, and Empire faith, steel, and gunpowder.
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kinda supried you havent talked about the imdb malus darkblade lord leak yet
i already made a full video about his lore, playstyle, and possible implementation in 2017. it would be redundant for me to make another video about him, and then ANOTHER if/when he gets officially announced. ill just wait til they announce the FLC lord and make a video then
whats your twitch channel?
same thing. milkandcookiesTW
Wish empire infantry didn't suck so bad doesn't really make sense lore wise ether
Oh ur in this one Indy? hell yeah Milk for the milk god Cookies for the cookie throne!
I really hope CA gets more involved in the cinematic aspect of their games. So much potential
Gobbo is gonna wipe the floor with his competition...mark my words
Though I’d love to see my (slightly) underdog boi Indy to beat Gobbo or Jon
what did you think of the tournament?
@@milkandcookiesTW You used 3 Centigors so you deserved to lose.
Awesome another tournament from CA. Supporting u Indy ma man.👏👏👍😍
Great vid!! I would also really like to see Lizardmen vs. Beastmen
We need more FOR SIGMAR
Great showing in the tourney indy, would love to see u in more of them
yeah ill see what i can do. it was definitely fun!
I need sleep
Great cinematics!
Good luck to you in the games.
Surtha Ek legendary lord confirmed
Can you do another dwarf vs SKAVEN battle
sure mate
Does Soul Stealer heal scale with damage dealt? I always thought it was a set heal.
I never see siege weapons - are they not allowed?
That...is exactly when/why CA is giving us the new LL Malus Darkblade, to boost up cold knight. Just imagine it. The Witch elves was the MVP there actually.
i think the beast way to nerf the druchi is to increase the amount of kills needed for murderous prowess to activate by 20% maybe 30% cause it always activates mid battle and they just kill everything before the enemy can get value for their troops and nerf the ap on dark shards so there's an actual reason to bring shades
Yes and damn Yes!!
I never understood why such low tier infantry would have ap...no other basic ranged unit gets it. Also, 30% seems fine and they could also shorten its duration. MP just turns the entire army into beasts...
Then why not buff Martial Prowess as well while you're at it?? Why on earth would you decrease the strength of a CROSSBOW bolt based on the person who fires it? It's like you and me firing a gun and yours suddenly becomes an AP railgun. Please just stop asking for debuffs to the Druchii and instead ask specifically for BUFFS to other factions. High Elves having absurd Martial Prowess for the entire duration of the battle right from the start and that's not a problem? You do realize that for Murder to proc you actually have to kill units? It's like based on roughly greater than 50 percent of total BODIES on field. So go 6 HYDRA s and I guarantee you'll only see MM only at the end. Because even the Druchii player needs to contribute. The reason the Druchii are so strong?? Because they have a good core philosophy. There are no heals; it's all-out offense which goes towards filling that Murder meter. It's also lotta AP. Frankly for the descendants of fallen Nagarythe, the sons of Aenarion's land it's ok. From a gameplay perspective this race is gonna SUCK ASS against the Ogre Kingdoms. Because then... That Murder Meter will need to be triggered by the deaths of mostly YOUR Druchii troops. The Murderous Mastery is ofc going to trigger. Ofc. Work out the math man. It's going to trigger. So it absolutely isn't fair to make sure that ALL of Skaven, Asur, Lizards get their battlefield mechanics ALWAYS but Druchii don't. What MM does is different if the Murder Meter is filled up with more of YOUR troops than the Enemy's dead is it helps you to even the fight a little. On the other hand if it's made up of mostly your enemy's dead then the Druchii have already won and it just speeds up the process. Please look at it objectively. Please. I know I'm speaking as a Druchii lover, but honestly? Their motto of unceasing unrelenting offense is kinda neat. And their entire combat philosophy feeds into that. Do note none of this was meant to be offensive in any way and I apologise in advance if it causes any.
I wasn't calling for weakening their dmg at all :) I think that their core ranged units are insanely good compared to their price (shield + ap missiles on your weakest unit is really strong) and I'm fine with the boost by MP but I think it lasts way to long because the melee fights are decided so quickly. I'm a druchi lover too, but compared to their counterparts in the HE army their units are too strong. Their basic infantry line is either cheaper or stronger than the HE part because they need to make up for their martial prowess/martial mastery, but that buff is lost when the unit drops below half and then the DE line is already stronger even without the murderous prowess buff.
Your point about nerfing and buffing is really weird. You buff/nerf according to the balance in the game. If there is one faction that is considered to be the strongest by 90% of players than it makes no sense to buff all others, because its gonna take forever. Now I know that DE aren't unbeatable, but you can't seriously think that they aren't the best faction in the game, especially as a DE lover. To beat DE you almost always have to make less mistakes than your opponent. When you're both evenly matched as players the DE one should win most of the matchups.
So basically I'm fine with most of it, but i would suggest they "nerf" the standard DE units to the same lvl as the high elf milita in melee, lower the ap dmg on crossbows (but keep the overall dmg the same) and cut the duration of murderous prowess by 20-25% :D
I agree with all your points except that buff/debuff part. The reason? Logically the DE roster should be the strongest, both from a lore standpoint and a tactics/TT standpoint. So none of us will have any problem I think if the DE are just ONE of the factions at the top. Here's the niggle. Come next patch, CA is gonna change up the unit stats of all rosters anyway. This means all factions are gonn get buffed or changed with Lizard and the Loser DLC pack and the DE are the only one getting nerfed. That seems... unfairly unbalanced. This is basically the Sparta of ancient times, if HE is Greece. The Normans to HE's Englaland. I disticntly seem to remember everyone LIKING the fact that DE was a top dog faction back in 8th. Do correct me if i am wrong. Half of everyone hated the Khaine books though what with God of Cinder Mallykitten.
@@anirbanbhattacharya9185 the druchi don't need murderous mastery to win tho all their units are at least decent for their price and are decently versatile and only have a bad air force pls murderous mastery is better then any buffing spell in the game effects every unit and lasts the longest sure your units will die before it activates but they'll destroy any unit that's the same tier as them
Whenever I see cav that far in druchi line I get so annoyed that they don't get chillwind and pancaked.
is the cinematic(dont remember the name) mode for multi-player gona release before the tournament
the spectator mode? no dont know when thats coming, maybe with the next big patch
@@milkandcookiesTW seems strange they haven't released it yet considering they started supporting tournaments
I don't know who to root for in the tournament, I like you all, I guess I'll just vote for the factions I prefer.
Oh man, searing doom being effective against sister of slaughter than dreadknight hurts my lore bone :S
Support you hope you win the ternement
Reiksguard, Gelt and two pistoliers defeated coldone knights .
zintlers reiksguard by themselves will defeat cold one knights. the others just made it more lopsided
which are the beginner factions ? for mp ?
lizardmen, dark elves, dwarves are pretty strong.
You'd want to choose the factions that are less micro intensive and don't depend as much on combined arms so to speak.
So choose factions like Lizardmen where you can get dinos and decent infantry, or Chaos/Norsca or maybe Beastmen and Dark Elves a little later on.
Factions like Empire, Skaven, Bretonnia and High Elves require a fair bit more though in utilizing combined arms and micro and can be more challenging for newer players.
And the Dwarves can be challenging because of their lack of mass stopping and mobile units and thus the urge to go too defensive (ie noob square, corner camp, defensive geometry etc).
What about dark riders with repeater crossbows?
well what do you expect from a bunch of mon’keigh?
Mon'keigh is a 40K thing. Elves in fantasy just use the word human or slave.
I expect they'd spank your pointy little ass
RIP JonTaun
I don't even see the dread knights using their maces. I only see their mounts attacking. Weird
same with demigryphs i think, pretty sure only their mounts attack
@@milkandcookiesTW - Really? That is super lame and quite lazy of them.
time is money and i dont think its CA i think its sega :/
Perhaps
It sounds like Dark Elves have clear cut objective ways to pound The Empire whereas empire players are to use something as ephemeral as mind games.
Even when referencing soothsayer you mention Dark Elves "almost lost".
Nerf this faction for the love of all that is good.
and Dark Elves certainly do need a slight nerf or two, BUT "X faction struggles in a matchup against Y faction" is NOT a valid reason to nerf a faction in and of itself. Total War Warhammer 2 is heavily matchup dependent, and every single faction in the game has advantageous matchups and matchups where they sometimes struggle. Thats just the nature of a game that has this much variety and so many different playstyles and races.
At the average skill level, Empire has all the tools they need to win in this matchup, and win convincingly. Soothsayer is one of the best players on the planet, so he's not exactly representative of the population of this game lol
milkandcookiesTW You know what, that's a pretty fair and reasonable rebuttal. You're right.
This empire build was just weak... Pistoleers almost never worth their 500 gold cost which is a lot! Watch the first few volleys in this game it's depressing.
Not to mention just one group of crossbows would have absolutely shredded those pistoleers, they die so fast it's almost hilarious actually.
Also his lord micro was kinda poor, and he didn't bring a single artillery...
This is not a good showcase of how the empire wins.
That crucial fight on the left ( where the Ebon claw fought first) Gelt should have been there to use final transmutation, just that simple. Instead as far as I can tell he was way on the other side dealing with that one group of cold ones, that just an insta loose.
pistoliers were used well this game though? they helped crush the cav fight on the left flank, and in combination with plague of rust they did a LOT of damage. most of their kills were on elite cavalry, they absolutely paid for themselves this battle. they can definitely be zoned out by Dark Riders with Repeaters though
I'm incredibly sceptical wether or not they did much damage in that fight. Before plague of rust went down the cold ones were already at 2529 (min 6:16 ) and one volley took 300 health off, so that meagre since some of that damage could have been the reiksguard crushing face.
So imagine instead of two pistoleers another reiksguard at that flank, 1K gold vs 1150, a pincer by reiksguard would have melted those cold ones, and they wouldn't even have needed the overcasted plague of rust, as the mere charge brought them to half health, a rear/side charge of another group would have melted and routed them.
And while the reiskguard were still fighting the pistoleers were already shooting at the oncoming group of cold ones, the 90 armor, shields forward group... (min 7:20)
And by min 7:22 the cold ones are routing, imagine what a rear charge would have done.
And at min 7:39 you can see what 5-6 volleys have done to the oncoming group of cold ones... Next to nothing.
And Gelt is at that flank which it horribly misplaced when the real fight is about to begin.
Outriders or just about any other cav would have been better here.
At min 8:48 you see a 25% health Zintlers, two pistoleers and Gelt dealing with one group of cold ones.
He used another overcasted plague of rust and the two pistoleers are half ammo and have barely done any impactful with that ammo.
At 12:45 we see the pistoleers shooting spearmen from the front... So again total waste, those guys have silver shields!
And they further empty their ammo into a group of spearmen that has 10-15% of their health left, again a waste...
They might have an all right number of kills, their actual damage is low and was vs non important targets.
So yeah I'll respectfully disagree that they did anything, it was Gelt and Zintlers that faced of vs two cold ones, something that lost him the game, not having Gelt around to absolutely punish that blob with final transmutation.
Nice but I don't care -
I'm so sick of Dark Elves. OP trash. Junk. Empire definitely needs a huge buff, damn it.