The 80s Cyvermen are my all time favourite design. The clear chin is actually the best bit. Seeing the mouth move is subtle, but reinforces the fact they do have fleshy bits in there
I personally think the mondadian cybermen and the invasion cybermen are better the earth shock ones just sound like humans not cybermen the actors do a terrible job and sounding like how cybermen should do
I tend to prefer the 80's Cybermen too. People complain that they sound too Human and too emotional but I like that they're simply stoic and subdued in their emotions rather then devoid of emotion, it makes them more effective bad guys. Also, seeing the Cyber Leader's mouth move shows that they're cyborgs with fleshy bits and not mere robots.
@@FreeTheDonbas Pretty much. Also, they whine that these Cybermen are too emotional but I prefer them that way as they're still being logical, they're simply using subdued emotions as they see value in using them to an extent to achieve their goals. It's no different then when the Daleks created the Cult of Skaro and had its members become individuals to think like their enemies so they can devise ways to destroy them.
That’s actually pretty reasonable. These Cybermen aren’t just brains in suits of armour, there’s a mutilated and ‘enhanced’ human body inside there. Makes sense that their heights would vary.
Yes, they aren't robots off a factory line, they're converted people - so you'd expect variation (just like the Borg in Star Trek). You might even conceive of different types of Cyberman, an engineer for example as opposed to a front line soldier.
A lot of people give credit to David Banks and rightly so but Mark Hardy who plays his Lieutenant also deserves the same as the two definitely made the roles their own to even where Big Finish brought them back. And worth mentioning that Banks has written a number of licensed Cybermen works which he went on to voice
I remember this story on first broadcast. They managed to keep the return of the Cybermen totally under wraps, and right up to the final few seconds of episode one there was no hint of them. That sudden cut to two Cybermen at the end of episode "DESTROY THE. DESTROY THEM AT ONCE" and the superb new costumes made it one of the best episode closers ever. Remembered as perhaps th ebest Davison story, second only to Cave sof Androzani. The special effect of the Cyberman getting frozen into the melting door is amazing.
The Cybermen in Earthhsock were so awesome in Earthshock and also they were long overdue a comeback after Revenge of the Cybermen with Tom Baker in the 1970s
And at the hands of those he betrayed Humanity to. I like to think that the Cybermen were disgusted in their own stoic way at his selling out Humanity to them and were looking for an excuse to off him as each Cyberman is devoted to aiding their race in any way possible, sort of like what each Dalek is like. Basically, the Cybermen were better beings then Ringway.
I will say in the 1960s Cybermen stories apart from Tomb of the Cybermen it was jolly difficult to know which Cyberman was in charge of the Cyberarmy I think the CYberleader in Earthshock awesome as he was in billions of ways would have been better with his helmet like his handlebars painted black and also the Cyberliuetenant should have had his silver helmet sporting black handlebars to indicate he was secong in command of the Cybermen after the Cyberleader
Revenge of the cybermem has a leader with all back helmet other than the face. They could have done something like that for the leader and given the lieutenant just black handles. th-cam.com/video/CGoPcQPpHLo/w-d-xo.html the previous cyberleader
I had a life size 80s Cyberman. The working gun and everything. I got tired of him after a few years and broke him up and sold him on ebay. One of my biggest regrets. 😭😭😭
One of the worst things about this latter era of original Who is that all the companions (and Doctors to an extent) had costumes that stayed the same between every story. The Tardis must have stunk!
Peel my tangerines !!! I'm sorry but i just understood a Doom movie reference now... (In the movie, there is a point when an 'alien' gets trapped in a similar door)... Dr Who > anything.
The one major issue with this iteration of Cybermen was that for all the talk of lack of emotion they were actually extremely emotional in their speech and actions. Pride, anger, arrogance etc in just this clip alone
A classic in every sense of the word. It would have been more memorable if this was the last time the Cybermen appeared in the classic series rather than being brought in for the sake of it.
Cybermen don;t have individuality. He's referring to the fact that the Cybermen have encountered the Doctor many times. In fact earlier in the story the CyberLeader identifies the TARDIS - "I KNOW THAT OBJECT" and he and his second in command review historical archives that show previous Doctors; they know that he can change his identity and realise that although they've never encountered the Fifth before, it is indeed, the Doctor.
Funny seeing someone call these older versions. As I remember watching this when first shown. They were the brand new models! Some features which carried on to the reboot.
The Cybermen have fallen quite a lot sadly, they used to be sinister, smart, and dangerous. Now they are mostly robotic idiots, they just don't seem much of a threat these days. Hopefully that will change one day and they will be more like they were in the 60s. Not in looks just in how they are acted.
Huh: there's another Cyber Leader at 3:29. In most stories there's only one - I wonder if there's official canon on the ratio of Leaders (and Lieutenants) to normal Cybermen. As someone who grew up with repeats of the classic Doctor Who (on UK Gold) and always loved the Cybermen, it's interesting to compare the older versions to the more metallic post-2005 ones. I don't think the new ones are necessarily bad: I like how solid and armour-plated they feel in action scenes, but on the downside they do feel more like a robot rather than an augmented humanoid. I think the 80s ones did that balance of machine and ex-human pretty well, though in Attack of the Cybermen they were they're suddenly vulnerable to bullets for some reason, and the way to beat them - even for the Doctor - in Earthshock and Attack is mainly 'steal their weapons and shoot them with them' rather than out-thinking them.
There are several Cyber-leaders, one each for the various squads in The Five Doctors (as the same one can't get blown up more than once) but I never noticed the second one here - well done!
This episode when Aderick dies, is what ruined the innocence of the show for me when I was a kid, and stopped watching till the reboot. Was always of the opinion a companion Never died. This episode was one hell of an eye opener. Some of my friends stopped watching too, after they realized Aderic wasn't coming back.
That guy held up a gun the entire time and the Cybermen just didn't care. They already know he's not a threat, and only killed him because they needed a prop to show off their threat.
He was working for them. In the earlier scene they came to the conclusion that he had lied due to the damaged cyberman. They killed him because they thought he'd deceived them.
We don’t need a trailer for the Power of the Doctor anyway… a clip from Earthshock is much better. This episode from 1982 will be better than what Chibnall has written for us.
As iconic as Earthshock is, the cybermen here show too much emotion/humanity. Key examples? When the cybermen are discussing breaching the shield. They're not the emotionless beings they're supposed to be.
In all fairness, the original Cybermen weren't exactly emotionless either, moreso apathetic to suffering other than their own. Modern Cybermen also retain some emotions, though mostly in the form of aggression and frustration. There's also Mr. Clever, the Cyber-Planner that took over a little less than half of the 11th Doctor's mind, and he acted quite proud and egotistical. I think it's fine if they display such emotions since the main point is that they don't care about how far they've removed themselves from their humanity and how they're subjecting that conversion to others who don't want it or haven't opted in for it. I think their goal of conversion and their apathy towards humanity should come first, not a strict adherence to their lack of emotions.
“ The shield is now soft enough. Break through! “ “ Charges primed? Yes, leader. Fire! I should have realized. “ “ So. We meet again. Doctor. “ “ Reactivation completed. Excellent. Now you will see our strength. “ “ My army awakes, Doctor! “
I was a Taxi Driver for many years and some of my best customers and closest friends were prostitutes. One of them claimed to have known the Cyber Leader personally, although she didn't have anything nice to say about him. She did tell me that he was a very cruel and cheap customer. She also claimed to have known a couple of girls that the Cyber Leader completely " DESTROYED" their baby factories.
@@hopebgood I guess but the cybermen have evolved that’s why they are more machine in new who the ones in earth shock could come back but please get better voices as they suck
The 80s Cyvermen are my all time favourite design. The clear chin is actually the best bit. Seeing the mouth move is subtle, but reinforces the fact they do have fleshy bits in there
I personally think the mondadian cybermen and the invasion cybermen are better the earth shock ones just sound like humans not cybermen the actors do a terrible job and sounding like how cybermen should do
I tend to prefer the 80's Cybermen too. People complain that they sound too Human and too emotional but I like that they're simply stoic and subdued in their emotions rather then devoid of emotion, it makes them more effective bad guys.
Also, seeing the Cyber Leader's mouth move shows that they're cyborgs with fleshy bits and not mere robots.
@@FreeTheDonbas Pretty much. Also, they whine that these Cybermen are too emotional but I prefer them that way as they're still being logical, they're simply using subdued emotions as they see value in using them to an extent to achieve their goals.
It's no different then when the Daleks created the Cult of Skaro and had its members become individuals to think like their enemies so they can devise ways to destroy them.
Good because the earlier Cybermen models had the menacing appearance of teakettles 😮🤓😎✌🏻
Earthshock's cyberman march scene is so iconic and great, and the soundtrack of this episode is superb.
David Banks is the MVP of these 80s Cyber stories. So glad Big Finish brought him back for a few stories recently.
David Banks is great.
Banks was... excellent.
David Banks' Cyber-Leader is the best! He makes such a great villainous foil for every Doctor he comes up against
Nothing's greater than the old "so we meet again"
0:57 The Cyberman holding the detonator is like a full foot shorter than the others 🤖
That’s actually pretty reasonable. These Cybermen aren’t just brains in suits of armour, there’s a mutilated and ‘enhanced’ human body inside there. Makes sense that their heights would vary.
Smol Cyberman. Pint Sized Cyberman.
Yes, they aren't robots off a factory line, they're converted people - so you'd expect variation (just like the Borg in Star Trek). You might even conceive of different types of Cyberman, an engineer for example as opposed to a front line soldier.
A lot of people give credit to David Banks and rightly so but Mark Hardy who plays his Lieutenant also deserves the same as the two definitely made the roles their own to even where Big Finish brought them back.
And worth mentioning that Banks has written a number of licensed Cybermen works which he went on to voice
"The Carbonite Manoeuvre! Well done, Doctor" ;)
I love the Cybermen and Earthshock is one of their best stories.
My army awakes! DOCTOR!
*awaits
(Looks at the army) (doctor who closing music)
A man of culture I see
I have a fondness for the floppy sets 1:09
One of the best Doctor Who stories. The pace of Earthshock still holds up today.
Heck of an achievement for a multi-camera studio. Didn't director Peter Grimwade specify nearly twice the number of shots as a normal story?
3:48 the look on the Doctor's face, OH SMEG!!!!!!!
I remember this story on first broadcast. They managed to keep the return of the Cybermen totally under wraps, and right up to the final few seconds of episode one there was no hint of them. That sudden cut to two Cybermen at the end of episode "DESTROY THE. DESTROY THEM AT ONCE" and the superb new costumes made it one of the best episode closers ever. Remembered as perhaps th ebest Davison story, second only to Cave sof Androzani. The special effect of the Cyberman getting frozen into the melting door is amazing.
The Cybermen in Earthhsock were so awesome in Earthshock and also they were long overdue a comeback after Revenge of the Cybermen with Tom Baker in the 1970s
The greatest Cybermen story of the entire series! - Chris
5th Doctor is styling with that celery
Hey, I'm the doctor. I can save the universe with a kettle and some string and look at me, I'm wearing a vegtable!
Brave choice, celery. But, fair play to him: not many people can carry off a decorative vegetable😎
Beryl Reid talked about it on This Is Your Life. Think she said she wanted to bite it?
1:51 Ringway's comeuppance.
And at the hands of those he betrayed Humanity to. I like to think that the Cybermen were disgusted in their own stoic way at his selling out Humanity to them and were looking for an excuse to off him as each Cyberman is devoted to aiding their race in any way possible, sort of like what each Dalek is like.
Basically, the Cybermen were better beings then Ringway.
The CYbermen in Earthshock were billions of times better than in Revenge of the Cybermen with Tom Baker
Great set of episodes. they need to bring 1980's cyberleader back for sure
A truly chilling story.
The Cybermen were almost unstoppable.
Boxers during a Face off: Im gonna give you two eyes more black than your face and gets pushed by the opponent.
Meanwhile, in Earthshock: 1:30
Easily the best Cybermen episode
Now those are badass Cybermen!
I love Cyber Leader's voice (David Banks).
The fact that Adric was the cause of a great extinction event on the planet earth.
at the time the `fused`cyberman special effect was next level.
"We meet again, Doctor." This is one of the better stories of the Peter Davidson Doctor Who era.
I rally want to see David Banks play the cyber leader once again
I will say in the 1960s Cybermen stories apart from Tomb of the Cybermen it was jolly difficult to know which Cyberman was in charge of the Cyberarmy I think the CYberleader in Earthshock awesome as he was in billions of ways would have been better with his helmet like his handlebars painted black and also the Cyberliuetenant should have had his silver helmet sporting black handlebars to indicate he was secong in command of the Cybermen after the Cyberleader
Revenge of the cybermem has a leader with all back helmet other than the face. They could have done something like that for the leader and given the lieutenant just black handles.
th-cam.com/video/CGoPcQPpHLo/w-d-xo.html the previous cyberleader
Cyber Leader: It doesn't matter who we are, all that matters is our plan!
I had a life size 80s Cyberman.
The working gun and everything.
I got tired of him after a few years and broke him up and sold him on ebay.
One of my biggest regrets. 😭😭😭
I love that they do the dramatic batman turn
I don't think adric is as bad as what people make him out to be
This is one of his better appearances to be fair. In four to doomsday he's insufferable
He was best in his last story... in some stories he is still unbearable.
Never was fond of the Adric character.
However, he was 10x better than Turlough!!😁
@@willhorting5317 oh god turlough is one of my least favorites
One of the worst things about this latter era of original Who is that all the companions (and Doctors to an extent) had costumes that stayed the same between every story. The Tardis must have stunk!
Peel my tangerines !!!
I'm sorry but i just understood a Doom movie reference now... (In the movie, there is a point when an 'alien' gets trapped in a similar door)... Dr Who > anything.
EXCELLENT!
The cybermen were so posh and outspoken back then compared to the nowadays series 😂
The one major issue with this iteration of Cybermen was that for all the talk of lack of emotion they were actually extremely emotional in their speech and actions. Pride, anger, arrogance etc in just this clip alone
A classic in every sense of the word. It would have been more memorable if this was the last time the Cybermen appeared in the classic series rather than being brought in for the sake of it.
Doctor who de las mejores
A pity Eric never wrote a sequel to Earthshock for the next season after this . After all , the cyber fleet was still out there ..
Ah that moment when you peel the plastic wrap off your new Cyberman ...
Still not sure what the Cyber leader meant when he says "SO.. WE MEET AGAIN DOCTOR"...
Cybermen don;t have individuality. He's referring to the fact that the Cybermen have encountered the Doctor many times. In fact earlier in the story the CyberLeader identifies the TARDIS - "I KNOW THAT OBJECT" and he and his second in command review historical archives that show previous Doctors; they know that he can change his identity and realise that although they've never encountered the Fifth before, it is indeed, the Doctor.
Funny how the exploded pieces of barrier look like painted bits of wood.
The see-through jaws are just off.
Nah, perfection.
@@dr.feelgoodmalusphillips2475 yeah, it shows that their cyborgs, not robots. It might even be better if it was transparent, not just translucent
My army awakes, Doc-TOR!
Love this epy
Huh. Just realised that these cybermen have literal glass jaws. Or at least, their helmets do.
Shows the decayed jaw underneath.
Brilliant
I love looking at the older version of all the villains such as the cybermen and seeing just how far they have come
Funny seeing someone call these older versions. As I remember watching this when first shown. They were the brand new models! Some features which carried on to the reboot.
They were BETTER here
The Cybermen have fallen quite a lot sadly, they used to be sinister, smart, and dangerous. Now they are mostly robotic idiots, they just don't seem much of a threat these days. Hopefully that will change one day and they will be more like they were in the 60s. Not in looks just in how they are acted.
@@annapocalypsezero4719 yes. They need to start wearing accordions and ski masks again.
Nuwho cybermen are terrible. No where as near as good
the best peter davidson storey x
So there are 4 cyberleaders? They really should have stuck David Banks at the back.
I think the other 3 Cyber-Leaders were sent to the Death Zone along with their squads.
Nostalgico demais
Dear doctor who i was wondering if i can make my own doctor who show with lego where i am the 16th doctor bc i dont want to be copyrighted
I admit, it doesn't look good for humanity, but of course we know that the Doctor defeated the Cybermen, because we're here talking about it.
Huh: there's another Cyber Leader at 3:29. In most stories there's only one - I wonder if there's official canon on the ratio of Leaders (and Lieutenants) to normal Cybermen.
As someone who grew up with repeats of the classic Doctor Who (on UK Gold) and always loved the Cybermen, it's interesting to compare the older versions to the more metallic post-2005 ones. I don't think the new ones are necessarily bad: I like how solid and armour-plated they feel in action scenes, but on the downside they do feel more like a robot rather than an augmented humanoid. I think the 80s ones did that balance of machine and ex-human pretty well, though in Attack of the Cybermen they were they're suddenly vulnerable to bullets for some reason, and the way to beat them - even for the Doctor - in Earthshock and Attack is mainly 'steal their weapons and shoot them with them' rather than out-thinking them.
There are several Cyber-leaders, one each for the various squads in The Five Doctors (as the same one can't get blown up more than once) but I never noticed the second one here - well done!
There are tons of cyber leaders but when one dies they download the rank and data into another one and they get promoted it’s a simple and easy tactic
"Robots" Exactly. Clunky robots.
@@hopebgood Robots in moonboots.
This episode when Aderick dies, is what ruined the innocence of the show for me when I was a kid, and stopped watching till the reboot. Was always of the opinion a companion Never died. This episode was one hell of an eye opener. Some of my friends stopped watching too, after they realized Aderic wasn't coming back.
Actually Katarina died in the tnrure of the First Doctor. Liek Adric, she sacrificed herself. NewWHo has killed off way more!
This is before New Who made Cybermen look like wind up toys.
Back when Cybermen were scary
And This is why I'm such a good leader:)
Back then the Cybermen were such diva's!
That guy held up a gun the entire time and the Cybermen just didn't care.
They already know he's not a threat, and only killed him because they needed a prop to show off their threat.
He was working for them. In the earlier scene they came to the conclusion that he had lied due to the damaged cyberman. They killed him because they thought he'd deceived them.
@@IAmPegasus It served him right for betraying Humanity to the Cybermen.
We don’t need a trailer for the Power of the Doctor anyway… a clip from Earthshock is much better. This episode from 1982 will be better than what Chibnall has written for us.
🤦🏻♂️
Earth shock is not a good episode the cybermen fail at being good terrible design and terrible voices and acting
@@aaronvasseur6559 and yet the story is beloved and is highly popular. Weird that
Nice
Would love to see a New Who where the actual 80s David Banks Cyberleader gets "uploaded" into a modern Cyber-body 😎😎😎
"So we meet again Doctor" David Banks was great at playing The Cyber Leader
As iconic as Earthshock is, the cybermen here show too much emotion/humanity. Key examples? When the cybermen are discussing breaching the shield. They're not the emotionless beings they're supposed to be.
In all fairness, the original Cybermen weren't exactly emotionless either, moreso apathetic to suffering other than their own. Modern Cybermen also retain some emotions, though mostly in the form of aggression and frustration. There's also Mr. Clever, the Cyber-Planner that took over a little less than half of the 11th Doctor's mind, and he acted quite proud and egotistical.
I think it's fine if they display such emotions since the main point is that they don't care about how far they've removed themselves from their humanity and how they're subjecting that conversion to others who don't want it or haven't opted in for it. I think their goal of conversion and their apathy towards humanity should come first, not a strict adherence to their lack of emotions.
earth shock is the first Doctor Who i watched
“ The shield is now soft enough. Break through! “
“ Charges primed? Yes, leader. Fire! I should have realized. “
“ So. We meet again. Doctor. “
“ Reactivation completed. Excellent. Now you will see our strength. “
“ My army awakes, Doctor! “
I was a Taxi Driver for many years and some of my best customers and closest friends were prostitutes. One of them claimed to have known the Cyber Leader personally, although she didn't have anything nice to say about him. She did tell me that he was a very cruel and cheap customer. She also claimed to have known a couple of girls that the Cyber Leader completely " DESTROYED" their baby factories.
Emotionless man-machine hybrid acting out of desire of revenge? Urh...
Emotional supressors must be malfunctioning
Isn't Power of the Doctor like, 3 weeks away. Shouldn't there be a trailer by now?
Don't know. Don't care.
@@frankshailes3205 Yea, but a lot of people care.
@@BaronMartin About a trailer?
@@frankshailes3205 yep
@@BaronMartin Fans are going to watch anyway.
They shouldn’t have made a door out of paper 📄
Power of the doctor trailer please. This is excellent so will power of the doctor we just need that final trailer
DELETE 🤖
Not Delete. *EXCELLENT*
These are the worst cybermen lol the actors are not even trying to sound menacing or like technology has taken over
I prefer these Cybermen to the clunky ones we get now.
@@hopebgood I guess but the cybermen have evolved that’s why they are more machine in new who the ones in earth shock could come back but please get better voices as they suck
Nice