Bills fall to Jets in OT behind Josh Allen’s 4 costly turnovers | NFL | SPEAK
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- Josh Allen had 4 turnovers in the Buffalo Bills’ MNF OT loss to the New York Jets. Emmanuel Acho, Joy Taylor, LeSean McCoy, and James Jones debate if their opinion on Allen has changed after this disappointing performance.
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🤔💭He is just a bigger Blake Bortles😳😳😅😅😅😆😂💦 Lady and gentlemen
Josh doesn't play for America's team
Give josh that same energy y’all give dak, Preciate it acho
Why? He’s better, he don’t deserve the same energy!
@@jamesfunderburk9495 Except he's not. He's been no closer to a SB than Dak has, but cause he's white, y'all fanboys love to hype him up.
@@sonikspeed19big facts 👍🏽
@@sonikspeed19the eye test and even cowboys players would rather have Allen than dak 🤷🏾♂️. U tried it tho , I’m black so keep color out just straight stats .
Apples and oranges bro. C'mon
Joy was gold this segment. The uncle Rico reference 🤣
And ‘Thursday you have to eat what you got in the fridge’
She really said no pause😂😂
@@Waynetoppop2011she said no no pause but she did it for the men - 🙄
@@vainglorious101she finds josh attractive
@@kinocodner4307Lmfao please go talk to a woman before you spew garbage
Joy talking about eating what you got in the fridge before that next check comes hits a little too close to home for me 😂😂😂
That line was too real
Ppl am I right
😂 lets me know Joy ain't always been celeb Joy ... respect the grind
Dude a turnover machine. Not just ints either. He fumbled the game away on a sneak against the Titans on national TV a few years ago. And had a key goal line fumble against the Vikings in that game last year. Incredibly talented, but also incredibly flawed smh
Shady and Joy are useless analysts. Why are they on TV?.......................
He didn’t fumbled he tripped and fell short of the first down , last year he fumbled the QB sneak to the Vikings @home
@@darwenfrankie5935 Just went back and watched, you're right about the slip. He still has to tighten up tho
@@rogerstith8075 I agree our window 🪟 getting shortened year by year . Thankgod our defense keeps us afloat + when he’s ON he’s ON . Just need it to be consistent
@@gmog7857idk they always trash
I just came here to hear McCoy talk about all them PICKS Josh Allen threw, like he does Dak. Keep that same energy
mccoy shouldn’t be on TV. he’s garbage
He rides Josh’s meat and yet Josh has no idea who shady is hahaha
Same with mahomes and Brady who literally never mention him or his influence on the team 😂😂😂
@@mikehatten5738 yeah he’s definitely propped up. I never thought he was that great. They love to throw in 2x SB champ in his name but real ones know he wasn’t a factor in either one..
But Dak wasn't great neither his defense made him look good so it ain't like Dak great once that defense plays a better offensive team and force Dak to be the reason they win he will look the same way!!
@@justinlong5589 first of all, it was a monsoon when Dak played week 1. They play a better defense (Jets) week 2 in a dome in Dallas. Come holla at me then. ✌🏽
She said, "no pause!"
LMAO!
They trash Dak...but Allen been giving up the ball since he came in the league!!!! Cmon....!!
Dak sucks period.
Allen was playing against a top 3 defense with undoubtedly the best secondary in the league. They are disciplined enough they aren’t gonna miss those bad throws. Dak does it with a cake walk nfc schedule every single year. It’s not the same
@@jaydendecena7985I am a Cowboys fan that hate Dak but outside of last year Dak is really not a turnover machine. Josh Allen has done this for years. He in Dak has the same problem. They both can win a lot of regular season games but they are not championship level QBs.
Dak is worse and been in longer allens playoff records and stats are better also that's a fact Dak can't touch Allen even with the turnovers
@@robertschoelerman7496you watched josh allen turn the ball over consistently every year and still say he’s better than dak because he “almost” beat patty mahomes. Yall casuals make my head hurt 😭
That Uncle Rico take was priceless 😂😂😂😂
That's why I mess James Jones he speaking facts
James Jones specks the truth, he doesn’t fan out on players like Shady.
Except when you talk about his boy Rodgers.
@@mcknzbrnqmnhnI mean Rodgers is a Great🤷🏼♂️
Wtf? Shady speaking truth too?? Josh is a winning Qb. That's a statement. You WILL go to the playoffs with that Qb
@@rayromo2470 and not stand A chance to win a SB 🤣
Diggs was NOT trippin. He knows Allen ain’t it. 😮💨
Is he better than the last QB Diggs had?
Sad
@@Bageeta20x20 cousins vs allen is debatable tbh
Facts!!!!
@@Bageeta20x20 Josh looks real Kirk-ish some nights.
Allen is more turnover prone than Dak is...
Exactly
Dak had one bad year vs. Allen's pizza delivery service.
@@veezouptown4148two games =/= 5 seasons. Is it that hard to comprehend?
@@UnexpectedWonder😂😂😂😂
@@veezouptown4148you’re right and it has nothing to do with the niners because they have one of the em worst defenses in the league
No pause is crazy 🤣🤣🤣🤣
She’s a hetero cis gendered female.
😂😂😂😂..
@gabeshort1071 bruh it was just a joke no one expecting them to say pause
She’s a female dude put 2 and 2 together!!
@@mr.dreammaker2486being a female don't matter in the pause game it doesn't have a gender she tried to pull the whole table into how big a guy is shady had a right to pause ⏸️ that
SHADY! His defense WINS GAMES! Top 3 for the last 3 years!
Thank u
Mahomes with that defense would've won 3 straight Superbowl.
They Didn't win in that Divisional round when he was carving KC though, they lost it
@@allentheskywalker they would have NEVER been in that game without THAT DEFENSE
@@hitek9too255the same defense that let josh allen down in 13 seconds? Right
Shady you said when Dak throws picks he's killing his team yet he has 61-36 win loss record, since he's entered the league he is 5th in wins. And he's won games while turning it over, but Josh Allen is not killing his team?? Make it make sense bro
303 divided by 19 is about 16. These are Brett Favre's career INTs divided by the number of seasons he played as QB1. So throughout his career he averaged about 16 INTs per season then tack on his fumbles lost (about an average of 4 per season). So this is about 20 turnovers per season.
I've said from the start Josh Allen is Brett Favre 2.0 with running ability (and no fraud charges). There'll be sky high highs and very deep lows with Allen just like with Favre, this is just the price you pay for a player like this, he'll give you the most epic wins and most soul crushing losses.
You know what? You just might be right.
I’m hearing a lot of excuses! Cowboys finished 12-5 last year with Dak leading the league and now turn overs don’t matter when you win… Josh throws them postseason as well
Exactly
Yea big difference between Dak and Allen. Cowboys fans so delusional. Yes picks are bad but Allens best is >>>>>>>>Dak
@@nicholasstewart8102stop it. Obviously not.. has he been to a super bowl?
@@mikellbull Dak has 2 playoff wins in his career and hasnt sniffed a conference championship. If you want to compare that than Allen is still waaaaayyyyy better lmao! Allen had a perfect QB rating in the playoffs to Patty Mahomes in the AFC championship game. Cowboys fans dumb and delusional. Special combo right there
@@nicholasstewart8102 That was 2 years ago. What did he do last year in the playoffs on their own home field?? Lost to the Bengals and played terribly
One thing I don't like about shady... he is too bias about the teams and teammates he's played for
💯
Bruh his argument was so wack pol
@@boogidwnej179 Saying Josh Allen turnovers produce in wins
James killed this take and was 💯 right
Allen is this generations Philip Rivers of the East , he can do most of what the best can do but makes crucial mistakes along the way
Amen brother.
Brett Favre
Don't Insult rivers like that....Allen is not as good as rivers
@@aaronclay4665Year 3 and 4 he was 100 times better than Rivers.
@@BrunoJawsstop it😂
Joy is awesome she makes the show
Joy hits the point that i don't see many talk about. Why is he running so much. Why are you trying to hurdle dudes at every opportunity. That hurdle he did whem he is 5 yards away from a first was my biggest WTF moment of the night for him. A 240 lb man falling ~5 feet to the ground is brutal on the body
Alot of people talk about him running so much and wish he run less and that they need a running game in the back field. I've heard a bunch talk about it the past couple of years and they are right
Joy is having fun today with her takes
that uncle rico take, i took screen shots of those expressions to make a meme out of LOL. Its pure gold
That was the absolute best 😂
It’s amazing how Shady makes excuses for Josh Allen yet attacks Dak. Dude we can see right through your cowboys hate and it’s pathetic.
He defends his josh allen all the time
Have you ever listen to Micheal Irvin criticize Dak.. Shady is a Bill(eagle chief) just have to understand who the analyst is.. Go watch Skip praise your Dak.
It’s the way Acho talk for me…Animation at its finest….
😂Fr bro he mad animated but im use to it now
Idc what anyone say Joy Taylor is the best female commentator
Mina is better. Joy states the obvious and doesn't provide much insight. Mina gives takes and backs it up with facts and numbers.
Yeah early in his career Carson Wentz loved to run through Defenders( I remember the one against the Panthers on the goal line) and we in Philly loved him for it but look how badly his body has held up
This current line up is excellent.
Joy actually got me with that Uncle Rico line 😂
When Joy said wait till Friday and eat what you got in the fridge, I shed a tear
Shady and James be lowkey going at it seems. Shady is so combative with James for no reason 😂
Because he don’t respect him as a player
He was like that with Dave Helman too. Just atttacks anyone who doesn’t agree with obviously wrong takes
The topic didnt make it better. Shady is already sensitive about the team and players hes played with/for.
How can he not respect James, he actually contributed to his Superbowl ring, am confused if thats the case.
Is shady gone give his boy the same treatment as Dak? Lemme see
The answer is nope. He said it’s cool if Josh Allen turns over the ball because he wins games. Like Dak and the Cowboys isn’t constantly 12-5
ALWAYS HERE FOR THE BEAUTIFUL BRILLIANT JOY TAYLOR 💎😍👑
JOY is boring
JOY IS TOP 3 ANALYSTS IN TV❤
I’m old enough to remember the beginning of last year when Acho and Shady said Josh Allen was better than Mahomes.
This game isn’t an anomaly-this is who he is. He had one great season in 2020 and a good playoff run in 2021 and everyone thinks that’s the guy they’re getting and not the one from the other 4 seasons. He makes bad decisions and he’s too reckless. And yeah, Bills fans will tell you “He accounts for 87% of the scoring!” Great-is that because he has to though? Or because he’s reckless and makes bad decisions? “Oh, he only has one receiver!” Fine, his receiver is as good at the position as Kelce is at right end and Dawson Knox is as good a tight end(or better) as Juju is a receiver and Mahomes won a superbowl. Plus, he always has at least a top five or top seven defense. “His O-like isn’t great…” Joe Burrow took the worst O-like in the league to the superbowl.
This is who he is 🤷🏻♂️
Joy is one of the best analysts on TV
Josh is a bit too aware of his talent, it makes him overestimate what he can do in some situations. I don't think it's premeditated, It's subconscious. He thinks he can throw it further and more accurately than he actually can, or that he can run over most people. I think he needs a sports psychologist, he has to learn when/how to hold back a bit.
This is the problem when the coach who gets you going miles on and you have the defensive minded head coach still with you.
Josh Allen lookin like Prime Tony Romo
Bills "window" never existed, last night was normal Josh Allen. You are just afraid to admit it lol
So, no.. McCoy didn’t give Josh Allen the same energy. And his excuse is Josh Allen usually wins games. So does Dak. This man pure goofy
I’m eagles Fan I agree,Dak = Allen same player
He bias he will never critique Josh Allen
Love Joy and Acho's energy! Best show in my opinion!
Stephon Diggs need to request a trade and try and get to Kansas City before he waste away any more years of greatness with Josh Allen as his QB. Josh not that dude.
As a bills fan I never seen a QB throw some many ints, yet I still love the man WTH
Your a fool then... Allen was never good, he is a poor man's Lamar Jackson...
I mean he is avg with some very high highs SOMETIMES....dude is a product of his environment, Diggs left avg Kurt cousins to be with a better qb, but he just went to a bigger Kurt....Allen is avg
You have no choice but to love him as a Bills fans cause he not going nowhere no time soon. Yall have to live with him.
@@postmastersgt1670hes had chances but the defense isn't great in the playoffs.
@@postmastersgt1670so which Qb on ur team? Lamar, Dak, Daniel Jones? Hes a better Qb than all of them combined
She dropped “uncle Rico” hilarious 😆 Josh Allen is terrible. Something is mentally wrong with him, he needs help. The couching staff in Buffalo is horrendous. Terrible offensive scheme. They all need to be fired immediately
👀Josh really looking like Carson Wentz 😳
Naw don’t put that jacket on him yet🤣 but if he keep this up u gotta point
Josh Allen=jay cutler
Lol don’t be scared to criticize Josh, he was doing some dumb things last night, don’t try to save him b/c he’s one of your fav QBs
Glad James Jones cooked Shady on this segement. Shady always defends eagles, chiefs, and Bills, Josh Allen already leading the nfl in picks
Stephon Diggs went the same distance in the playoffs with Case Keenum. The man was anointed without accomplishing anything great. Stats and good games against bad teams
Yes the best route runner in the NFL is bad, i don't know if you noticed this but WRs can't carry teams to Super Bowls. How many picks did Diggs throw last night? What team is Keenum starting on? Yeah..........
White Qb privelage him, burrow and Herbert all get tossed in conversations prematurely whîle Tua, Lamar, hurts,dak all get the opposite treatment
@@ahmedegal6808exactly
@@ahmedegal6808facts
@@ahmedegal6808 Burrow has been to a Superbowl and AFC title game in back to back years with no line. Dak, Tua, Lamar haven't been there
The best part of this conversation, was when Acho said that Josh plays down to the level of competition. I thought i was the only one who saw that.
acho is right. people cape for josh allen way to much. if this was dak prescott we would talk about this for the next 3 years
Call me crazy but I still don’t believe they giving him enough 💨
Dont none of these QBs get Lamar Jackson energy
None of them
@@reignsupreme7686 bro it's crazy they get passes for there Ls
@@jimbean3671 and he gets hate for winning....I just smh
Brett Favre wasted a ton of good teams in his career being a 'gunslinger'. Also hung a ton of great receivers out to dry.
Diggs not left out to dry tho . His stats increase each year
All these dudes are no where near Mahomes.
Where's the smoke for QB Josh Allen? Don't give him a pass? He has turned the ball over more than Dak Prescott. And I'm calling it. The Bills will not make the playoffs this season. MARK MY WORDS!!
James Jones has been a great addition to this show much needed
😂 that uncle rico line was money
Shady was on his knees the whole segment sounding dumb he even lied about Allen winning games despite the picks last game Allen played he threw picks in the playoffs and they lost !! Using TEAM record to justify a QB plays is elementary dumb Stop playin defense n keep it real
Now it's about regular season wins not Ints now.
When Dak still won back to back 12 win seasons but it's the picks goh Shady
Why do they talk like he's going against Wilson directly? He's going against a good Jets defense.
The Uncle Rick reference was gold.
✨Joy✨ really was shining this segment, love her energy 😂 make me wish I grew up w/ er have me in stitches sittin on the stoop talkin sports
Acho is the man. He is the best in the nfl imo.
Allen clearly loves to launch the ball deep so like why doesn't buffalo go out and get this man a deep threat? They got diggs and said "my job here is done" like go get this man another elite receiver or something
This is a really good debate on Josh Allen. Here’s my take - the Jets have an unbelievable defense and we’re in week 1. Defenses will always have an advantage over offenses in week 1. Josh is going to be just fine - like Joy. Great takes from a the panel. Love this show 🔥💪🏼
Except this is nothing new with Josh… turnover machine
The Jets were built to stop Josh Allen.
😂😂naaaa bro. This the 2x in a row we saw this dude completely choke on national TV…
I haven’t forgot him completely dissapear Vs the bengals last year in the playoffs.
Joy Rocks.. good point of view.
Josh Allen trying to outshine Dak Prescott in the TO department 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
Research instead of listening to these clowns he always was Dak has played 98 games with 65 Ints Josh has played 78 games with 63 Ints you do the math
He’s been outshined him in T0?😂
He has the most turnovers at 83, Dak is at 55. Y'all don't give him the same energy, is this a race thing? He has Stefon Diggs a Top 3 WR, Dak never had that and has the same TDs, CMP %, yards etc
Uncle Rico haha
Good reference joy
"I bet i could throw a football over dem mountains"
Acho is forgetting that Buffalo's defense doesn't show up in the playoffs.
The bills scored 10 points against the Bengals last year in the playoffs. Josh Allen and the offense didn't show up.
@@m42679 That's only last year. In the 8 playoff games that he has played in, Josh Allen has a passer rating of 99.6 while throwing 17 TDs and 4 interceptions. The Buffalo's Bills' defense usually ranks near the top in opponent's PPG during the regular season; but in the playoffs, they have given up 38, 42 (vs KC), 31 (vs Miami). They've also given up 24 (vs IND) and 27 (vs CIN); but I understand how hard it is to stop teams from scoring in today's NFL, so I don't consider those too bad. Although Josh Allen has his flaws, there have been play off games where he played well enough for them to win, but his defense let him down.
So you can lead the league in interceptions since joining the league and be a top 3 qb?!? 📝 🧐
That wild 😂😂 that man not top 3 or 5
Same with a certain QB in Cincinnati. But stop lying you have Allen and Burrows all the praise
They literally won’t even talk about that browns bengals game have you seen anything on it?🤣🤣 worst show on tv
@@kdubs928 nope ,not one take … that’s interesting but they need their new Brady .
You see Joy and Acho when he said A$&??? 😂😂
Shady: woooaahhh
Joy: pause…
😂😂😂😂😂
She said no pause lol she knew what she was sayin
The cold blooded hate Dak gets is beginning to become ridiculous like it's ok to throw picks cause he Josh Allen & has showed flashes of thing's when Dak show the same but may lose do to receivers running the wrong route, dropping the ball, or can't catch for it to go to the defender & it's all on Dak I say BS now since Dak plays that same team Sunday guy's be sure on Monday to give him his Flowers it's going to be telling whoever read this much better precises throwing coming from Dak to his receivers. & that what y'all didn't get to see when they vs the Giants you will see at home vs the Jets
Shady with captain America Shield 😂
Ppl gotta give jets defenses credit tbh
Facts
As a Ravens fan, they aren’t giving the jets enough credit imo..of course josh played terrible and is a turnover machine, however regardless of his play this jets Defense is legit
Exactly, Joy saying the Bills are a better team even with Aaron Rodgers.
Really did she not watch the game? Acting like the Jets didn't just rush 4 linemen almost every play and get pressure almost every play. Or that Breece Hall averaged 12 yards a carry. Or that the Jets special teams returned a punt for a TD.
If they had Rodgers the Jets most likely would have blown them out.
@@someguy9301 Faxx💯 they woulda got waxed if Hot Rod didn’t have that injury, but sheesh I didn’t know Breece had a 12yd per carry avg that’s insane lol
@@Riifromthe3 yea 10 carries for 127 yards. And 1 catch for 20 yards.
@@Riifromthe3, the 1 catch was at the line of scrimmage. He took it 20 yards.
Game wins is a team effort Shady
Josh Allen threw the same amount of interceptions as Dak last season yet all we heard about was Dak, and they still praised Josh Allen even after their early playoff exit last season. Give the same energy. Josh Allen is good but highly overrated. While Dak is underrated and disrespected. Allen will lead the league int’s this season, watch.
Both Josh and Lamar got to prove there players that are able to lead there team to a superbowl.
Yeah they are both trending down. Lamar's passing numbers have been very mediocre for 2 years along with injuries and Allen is a turnover machine.
Lamar is better than Allen, the Bills have a better team.
Because Lamar and Josh Allen have the same level of supporting cast ??😂😂
@@Youbenosybro That’s the problem in the NFL guys like there’s gets pay a lot but the teams can’t build around them.
@@trueson5351Lamar is trash doesn’t matter how many weapons he’s a running back masquerading as a quarterback 😂
Josh Allen looks much slower runs with less power than previous years. He reminds me of Cam Newton when his body started breaking down. The hits are adding up fast and taking its toll but his mindset is like a pitbull he ia fearless.
Yea, he not gon last playing like that… and let’s be real, I know cam and josh are around the same weight and height but cam was pure lean, muscle. I don’t even expect Allen to last as long as cam did
Shady is easily the most ridiclious part of this segment. The fact that this man has been on this show burying Dak Prescott for the same thing, but gives Josh Allen a pass. Jeesh.
The disrespect to the Jets defence is absurd here.
For real NY jets defense is legit 💪
I fast forward through Acho whenever his mouth is moving!
It really shows how no one even comes close to Mahomes right now
Josh Allen is just Jameis Winston with a Hellcat engine.
So the Jets defense gets ZERO credit? These people are FOOLISH especially that 👩
Yo beard got diamonds in it lol
Josh is always trying to make those big plays because he knows he can. He's missing out on a lot of smaller plays that are easier and safer.
Just like Wentz. He'll sacrifice his body for the big play, but it's the in-between that's costing the games.
Allen is roller coaster. His highs are so wild, he looks like a hall of famer.. his lows look like, well they look like last night.
James Jones speaking the truth 💯
Josh Allen was NUMBER 1 for MVP for the first 8 weeks last season. lighting teams up won agaisnt the Chiefs and Ravens in close games. He got injured and took a big loss against the jets and it went a little downhill from there. The Jets are starting to become his kryptonite and thats ok. He has another game against them. The division games are always going to be tough. Ask the Chiefs when they go up against the broncos, ask the Bengals when they go up against the Browns. Bills fans loved seeing seeing their team blowout the Dolphins and Jets well now those teams are getting better, they're tired of getting blown out. So buffalo just has to adjust. Blueprint was in the first half for Josh. He will see it. Its ok to have a couple bad games just dont have them in the playoffs Josh. I know he'll be good. Let all the people waiting for Josh to become a bad qb keep hating, bc they're gonna have to wait forever.
Yea Brett went to two Superbowls but they failed to mention he won his first with a Superteam that had the number 1 ranked offense and defense that was filled with Reggie White, LaRoy Butler, Andre Rison, Keith Jackson, Mark Chumura, etc while beating a mediocre Patriots team.
Joy said "No pause" 😂 after that big boy comment
this dude Terry Crews Jr. is so animated for no reason
As a jets fan I have to go with Shady. Josh is still a top 5 QB. He will bounce back. I get he has his the defense but the jets ran all over that defense. Bills all together have to play better not just Allen especially with the whole AFC being stacked.