Stephen A. & Dan Orlovsky GOT AT IT about Josh Allen’s trust levels! | First Take

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  • On First Take, Stephen A. Smith, Kimberley Martin and Dan Orvlovsky talk about the latest from around the NFL.0:00 Do you trust Josh Allen?
    1:30 Stephen A.’s disappointed
    4:50 Dan Orlovsky’s take
    7:00 Dan loses his cool!#ESPN #FirstTake #espn #StephenA
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  • @EightchMaDogofLa_
    @EightchMaDogofLa_ 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +303

    "You wasn't capable of wearing that suit 2 years ago...THINGS CHANGE! "💀💀💀 that had me crying

    • @Armusah
      @Armusah 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      That has me crying too! 😂😂

    • @patricktuggles4815
      @patricktuggles4815 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Right 😭😂😂😂

    • @charlettemcrae759
      @charlettemcrae759 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I cried when he said that!😂😂😂

    • @derrellbarron3890
      @derrellbarron3890 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Crying laughing hard. 🤣🤣

    • @EightchMaDogofLa_
      @EightchMaDogofLa_ 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 to all y'all commenting and liking thank you much love hilarious ESPN definitely jumped some levels shifting and Addition of Shay Sharpe its a different kind of energy

  • @Bobbytheman98
    @Bobbytheman98 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +254

    Josh Allen had to throw 3 INTs, a fumble and lose just for ESPN to stop talking about about Dak

    • @gdc6153
      @gdc6153 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      And you just brought him up again 🙄

    • @vicktor374
      @vicktor374 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Even tho Allen has more turnovers than anybody

    • @Jason09_
      @Jason09_ 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Dak will do the same on Sunday 😂

    • @aboogeytheboss5043
      @aboogeytheboss5043 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Jason09_your nothing but a cowboy meat rider let’s be honest

    • @Bobbytheman98
      @Bobbytheman98 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@Jason09_ didn’t know we had god I’m the chat

  • @keljerel
    @keljerel 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

    Kimberly stood up and was the exact same height as she was seated. 😂

    • @JoseAguirre-gj5nv
      @JoseAguirre-gj5nv 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah but she’s seemed annoying

    • @KJELITE01
      @KJELITE01 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Quick lil check by Stephen a. Notice molly knew it wasn’t her place to stand in that one that was a man’s debate

  • @17js
    @17js 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +338

    This debate just elevated First Take 😅. This was amazing, shoutout to Stephen A and Dan 👏🏻

    • @natem2461
      @natem2461 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      Kimberly is actually a really good part of first take.

    • @Yurrrrrtfyurrr
      @Yurrrrrtfyurrr 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      She so annoying wym 😭

    • @jarius9145
      @jarius9145 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Yurrrrrtfyurrr How

    • @geronimoflair
      @geronimoflair 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Yurrrrrtfyurrrlmaoooo

    • @rafaelisslaam1894
      @rafaelisslaam1894 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      she's fine so she gets a pass just like Molly@@Yurrrrrtfyurrr

  • @jordan12118
    @jordan12118 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +111

    Nick Wright said it but y’all be giving Josh Allen more credit for losing that 2022 playoff game than y’all do Mahomes for winning it. He didn’t get a ring for that performance they lost

    • @jctslice
      @jctslice 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Nick wright isn't credible regarding any threat to his favorites. He's always gonna find a way to cut them down to prop up/protect his favorites

    • @Mr.Martin1996
      @Mr.Martin1996 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      ​​@@jctsliceTrue, but he's still has a point regarding Josh Allen. Everyone gives him more credit for losing to Mahomes or any other teams, than giving Mahomes credit for winning his second Super Bowl or his 3rd AFC Championship lol
      Nobody is discrediting him as a great Quarterback, but the mistakes are just so awful that it makes everyone look at Nick Wright as if he was partially telling the truth.

    • @jamesbb4
      @jamesbb4 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      ​@@jctsliceNick was and is Wright about Josh Allen. Get over it

    • @jctslice
      @jctslice 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Mr.Martin1996 he may be right, but I'm not listening to it coming from a flagrant chiefs homer lol. If broussard said it, I'm good with it because he's objective

    • @Mr.Martin1996
      @Mr.Martin1996 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@jctslice I don't even agree with most of his Chiefs takes, coming from a Chiefs fan myself, but at least he's consistent with his takes than Skip is lol
      But I do agree with Broussard being objective though.

  • @Disused191
    @Disused191 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +134

    Dan standing up like he’s defending his WIFE 😂😂

    • @jonmolina948
      @jonmolina948 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      They should’ve moved the table and threw down. Imagine Shannon standing up. I bet everybody else would sit back down.

    • @jermainewright4517
      @jermainewright4517 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      ​@@jonmolina948In a nanosecond 😂😂😂

    • @cjfrm3658
      @cjfrm3658 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      ​@@jermainewright4517 Why we standing up unless we moving furniture?

    • @htdubski23
      @htdubski23 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He was the same about wentz😂

  • @loststoryproductions
    @loststoryproductions 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +299

    Stephen A is a comedian 😂

    • @naklovesjesus3204
      @naklovesjesus3204 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      😂😂
      Absolutely.... Stephen you okay
      0:10

  • @kevinrobinson7843
    @kevinrobinson7843 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    She said 1000% after how he played Monday! Crazy work

  • @MuadhRazaque
    @MuadhRazaque 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +233

    josh allen could throw 10 interceptions in a game and Dan still wouldn't bat an eye.

    • @naklovesjesus3204
      @naklovesjesus3204 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      New Carson Wentz.... It's his bay 😅

    • @DuckFanDane
      @DuckFanDane 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That’s not true, but he had a bad game that’s true or it’s just funny how we want a dog, Josh Allen but no one wants to talk about Joe Burrow, who had a horrible game too but Josh Allen has one turnover prone game against the best defense in the league and we want to attack him

    • @adamant1015
      @adamant1015 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ⁠​⁠​⁠@@DuckFanDaneburrow had one bad game. If I’m not mistaken Josh Allen led the league last year in turnovers, and I know for a fact he lead the league in red zone turnovers. He’s making mistakes that he shouldn’t be making at this point in his career and it’s alarming. This is not one game. This is Josh Allen for over a full season now.

    • @kleatise52
      @kleatise52 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@DuckFanDane”one bad game”
      He turns the ball over repeatedly. Since 2020 he leads the league in turnovers. Last year he did. He’s also a touchdown machine to be fair. Good with the bad, but he’s for sure worse than mahomes and burrow

    • @robertsuchy2369
      @robertsuchy2369 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Well it's the same guy who ran out the back of the end zone so not surprised 😂

  • @ChrisJerico2
    @ChrisJerico2 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +376

    Dan defending a turnover prone QB who costs the team games. Football is definitely back yall!

    • @Marcus_shawn
      @Marcus_shawn 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

      But has a problem with dak😂 but will defend Carson Wentz,Derek carr and Josh Allen

    • @mainenba1624
      @mainenba1624 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

      Because Dan was a turnover prone QB😂😂😂

    • @Marcus_shawn
      @Marcus_shawn 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ​@@mainenba1624😂😂😂 sounds legit

    • @Zenigundam
      @Zenigundam 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@mainenba1624 I don't personally like Dan Orlovsky, but when he was at Connecticut, he was arguably the best QB in the Big East. Don't disrespect someone who did something that you were incapable of doing.

    • @slimvickins5059
      @slimvickins5059 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Enjoy your week 1 dogging a guy for a single bad game playing what could be the best defense in the league on the road when they were extra motivated to pull out a win for their injured QB. When Allen inevitably is a Top 2 QB after a few weeks, come back with that energy.

  • @niiick_
    @niiick_ 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    stephen a clutched up the 2v1😭

  • @kacornish1
    @kacornish1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +389

    It’s not about talent, it’s about trust… If you trust Josh Allen to get to a Super Bowl right now, you have NOT been paying attention.

    • @johnathanfernandez6836
      @johnathanfernandez6836 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Nah he’s over trusting lmao

    • @crustybs46
      @crustybs46 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      if you think that i really dont think youve been paying attention. number one scoring offense in the last three years and top three in epa/play on a team thats won more games than everyone not named the chiefs.

    • @Sebastian-in4po
      @Sebastian-in4po 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      @@crustybs46and what has he done in the playoffs

    • @williethekidd2121
      @williethekidd2121 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      @@crustybs46all of that is null & void when it comes to the post season. Josh Allen seems to make the dumbest mistakes at the worst possible time in the playoffs. He tries too hard to play hero ball & it backfires more times than not. Don’t believe me? Just watch the game against Cincinnati in the divisional round

    • @kurooben1639
      @kurooben1639 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      gotten to an afc championship game, beat the patriots scoring a touchdown on every single drive and not punting, having a stellar performance against kc on par with mahomes and losing because the defense gives up a fg with 13 seconds left and capitulates in overtime@@Sebastian-in4po

  • @tyronegriffith473
    @tyronegriffith473 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +83

    😂😂😂😂 first take has moved up levels loving it

    • @spitzrealist86
      @spitzrealist86 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      It’s Stephen A bruh 😂😂😂pure entertainment

    • @tyronegriffith473
      @tyronegriffith473 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@spitzrealist86 I may be wrong but am thinking Shannon has a huge impact on that also

    • @KJELITE01
      @KJELITE01 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@tyronegriffith473everyone has to step up their game. He’s changed the energy BTS, some people’s aura just does that

  • @Jumpman2109
    @Jumpman2109 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    9 of those 14 TDs came in 2 playoff games. Diggs went the same distance in the playoffs with Case Keenum

  • @camadams8462
    @camadams8462 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    I made a face when she said 1000% too SAS she tweakin 😂😂

    • @RackzTheGeneral
      @RackzTheGeneral 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      She definitely Tweakin😂😂😂if he told her "you should be drug tested immediately " I would've died

    • @rjgraddy11
      @rjgraddy11 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bro she straight up glitched

    • @camadams8462
      @camadams8462 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@RackzTheGeneral I stg 🤣

    • @camadams8462
      @camadams8462 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rjgraddy11 sum wrong with shordy 😂

  • @MarquesHardison
    @MarquesHardison 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +63

    84 total turnovers with five years in the league… but he’s ELITE…

    • @duvaltilwedie904
      @duvaltilwedie904 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      Not just elite, we can’t even bring up the turnovers or they’ll act like we have no idea what we are talking about.

    • @MarquesHardison
      @MarquesHardison 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@duvaltilwedie904yet ESPN wonders why their ratings are tanking: Constant narratives being pushed that are regularly debunked.

    • @mrgetitdone85
      @mrgetitdone85 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      It’s insane how much he turns the ball over!!

    • @Mystery1140
      @Mystery1140 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Over last two years
      Josh allen 29 ints
      Mahomes 25 ints
      Burrow 26 ints
      Lol

    • @mrgetitdone85
      @mrgetitdone85 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@Mystery1140 add the fumbles

  • @og_mante5138
    @og_mante5138 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    She said Josh Allen is the reason we thought they could win a SB. It was Von Miller before he got hurt. Josh Allen is gonna be the reason the Bills can’t make it to a SB

    • @derrondowdy4373
      @derrondowdy4373 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Please stop lying

    • @og_mante5138
      @og_mante5138 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@derrondowdy4373 He’s one of the most talented QBs in the game but he makes poor decisions. Till he fixes it, only thing the Bills winning is a seat on the couch on SuperBowl Sunday.

  • @kevincarter2364
    @kevincarter2364 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    These dudes just stood up I hollered 😂💀

  • @reallife0728
    @reallife0728 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    THE SLURPAGE OF JOSH ALLEN IS SO CRAZY THEY IGNORE THE FACT HE HAS THE MOST TURNOVERS FROM THE QB POSITION SINCE 2018...

    • @danielventura8118
      @danielventura8118 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He has the most touchdowns since he entered the league…..

    • @sirhoopalot1125
      @sirhoopalot1125 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@danielventura8118yeah with his legs 😂 he’s a qb and never thrown 50 tds

    • @Justin-oi7jt
      @Justin-oi7jt 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@danielventura8118 Most TDs and most turnovers since entering the league isn’t a good stat, especially if the team is blowing games because of turnovers

    • @danielventura8118
      @danielventura8118 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Justin-oi7jt his team is also winning games because he is throwing and running for touchdowns

    • @Justin-oi7jt
      @Justin-oi7jt 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@danielventura8118 yes but does that happens when it matters? Like in the playoffs

  • @Marcus_shawn
    @Marcus_shawn 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    Look at how the media talks about Allen vs Dak.... Dan said all last week "yall got me defending Dak" ...but will defend josh Allen and Derek carr...not a dak fan but he's not a high turnover qb yet the media trashed him all off-season when all turns the ball over more than Dak does yet nobody says anything

  • @kyletemplin9318
    @kyletemplin9318 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    crying that they both stood up

  • @Ree726
    @Ree726 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Debates with Dan and SAS be having me crying 🤣

  • @FinzTalkzTV
    @FinzTalkzTV 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +59

    I gotta be in the twilight zone or something here. Watching Stephen A so vociferously praise and defend Tua this segment after making snide remarks about his arm strength all these years is definitely a trippy experience. Idk how to feel about it as a fins fan 😂😂😂

    • @philthyrich007
      @philthyrich007 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      To be fair he is talking about this year

    • @FinzTalkzTV
      @FinzTalkzTV 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@philthyrich007 I know it’s still weird. I don’t like it 😂😂. Feels like some reverse psychology bs lol

    • @swordinvictus
      @swordinvictus 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      He's good at jumping on waves

    • @thebestever160
      @thebestever160 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      at least you’re shameless & don’t know enough to admit you’re a Sardines fan - congratulations

  • @charlettemcrae759
    @charlettemcrae759 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    This is one of the best debated topics I’ve heard on this show in a minute. 😂

  • @kingpiniv
    @kingpiniv 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +258

    I kept saying all offseason that the Jags would pass the Bills as the 3rd best team in the AFC and people thought I was crazy. This is why. Josh Allen is immensely talented, but these mistakes are killers.
    The Bills had no business losing that game

    • @Thedominatormma
      @Thedominatormma 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      S

    • @Thedominatormma
      @Thedominatormma 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😊dd

    • @Zenigundam
      @Zenigundam 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Drafting Trevor Lawrence was the game changer. Delusional Jet fans wanted to downplay missing out on him, "We don't even know if he'll be good in the NFL." There are some things that are certainties. I don't think there's even been more of a guarantee in NFL history than Trevor Lawrence being a star QB.

    • @Mystery1140
      @Mystery1140 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      The jags Almost lost to the colts lol

    • @kingpiniv
      @kingpiniv 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@Mystery1140 The Bills lost to Zach Wilson lol

  • @Intimigator
    @Intimigator 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Stephen A got called out for speaking out of both sides of his mouth 😂

  • @WrestlingIsReal649
    @WrestlingIsReal649 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +188

    Imagine if Lamar Jackson did what josh Allen did Monday night this wouldn’t even be a argument
    😂😂😂

    • @Yorkwoods44
      @Yorkwoods44 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Lamar has the exact same career INT rate as Josh at 2.3%, Josh just has way more pass attempts so his overall numbers are higher. Allen is a guarantee for 5,000 yards & 40 TDs, Lamar puts up nowhere near that

    • @LilJJ010
      @LilJJ010 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Lamar had 2 Turnovers against the Texans

    • @trecobin3673
      @trecobin3673 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

      @@LilJJ010Lamar won.. they lost to Zack Wilson because of josh allen

    • @colinedelman6392
      @colinedelman6392 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Josh Allen is Cam Newton who will never win mvp or reach the Super Bowl. The stupid hits he’s taking now will add up soon.

    • @slimvickins5059
      @slimvickins5059 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Imagine Lamar being an actual good QB.

  • @savon34434
    @savon34434 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Dan should be on the show everyday. He one of the only guys I know that can actually check Stephanie A Smith when he does that thing he do

  • @CWDATRUTH1911
    @CWDATRUTH1911 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Stephen A is right this time. No one is saying Josh isn’t a very good QB it’s just there are other guys with teams that have improved that we all should trust more based on what we have seen of his performance in big moments. Honestly he reminds me of the AFC Dak Prescott. ALL WORLD statistics, can’t win the big games when needed.

    • @brouhaha3722
      @brouhaha3722 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      NO, its more SAS trying to find any reason to knock Allen off his pedestal because he knows Allen is a lot better than his favourite "boys" (as he calls them) like Jackson, Hurts, Mahomes, and will hate to admit that,

  • @Donaldjonald2
    @Donaldjonald2 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Love seeing Stephen A shut Kimberly up😂

    • @Yurrrrrtfyurrr
      @Yurrrrrtfyurrr 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Ong she be all attitude and no facts at all 😭

  • @MKFearon
    @MKFearon 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    This was a good debate. When they stood up, they were going at it while being respectful. Nice one Dan and SA.

  • @jordan12118
    @jordan12118 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    “I did not I was in the suite”😂

  • @xLegendaryPete
    @xLegendaryPete 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    The fact is, since he has come in the league in 2019, Allen has the most turnovers as a quarterback. 😅

    • @crustybs46
      @crustybs46 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      2018*, and great. now look at TD's, epa/play, wins, yards, points per game...

    • @prolific1518
      @prolific1518 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ​@@crustybs4662% career completion percentage with a top 5 WR

    • @crustybs46
      @crustybs46 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @prolific1518 he has a 65.3 percent completion percentage since stefon diggs has been in the picture and a top 5 average depth of target in that time-frame making that percentage even better

    • @jalilcook5113
      @jalilcook5113 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      He's overrated, just say it y'all. Not hard

    • @sonnydaze2381
      @sonnydaze2381 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@jalilcook5113opinions are like. . .

  • @GuessJess
    @GuessJess 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +99

    Not a Bengals (or Bills) fan, but in fairness, Joe had a calf injury that made him miss most of training camp and preseason (like last year’s appendectomy) so I’m fully expecting him to bounce back at some point this season when he shakes the rust off. I do NOT trust Josh Allen to stop trying to play hero ball and ruining his team’s chance of winning a championship. He’s definitely missing the guidance and discipline that Brian Daboll was giving him.

    • @colinedelman6392
      @colinedelman6392 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Yeah, that’s crazy, he will never change. Bills receivers are always open but he’d rather go 70 yards down the field

    • @xguudaxcoax4560
      @xguudaxcoax4560 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Being a fellow non biased fan I appreciate your breakdown.

    • @sirhoopalot1125
      @sirhoopalot1125 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      All I heard was excuses if Joe was that guy he would’ve done better

    • @GuessJess
      @GuessJess 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sirhoopalot1125 fair enough… I still trust him more than Josh Allen!

    • @sirhoopalot1125
      @sirhoopalot1125 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GuessJess oh most definitely most definitely

  • @jonmolina948
    @jonmolina948 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    0:08 The look on her face. That’s the only time I’ve seen Stephen A trying to not get caught being snide.

  • @peterhoran6787
    @peterhoran6787 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I literally just watched a clip on Get Up of Kimberley Martin roasting Allen to the point she was standing up out of her chair and then literally in the next time slot she's singing his praises..this is why it's so hard to tune in to these shows on a regular basis.

  • @benimarushinmon4073
    @benimarushinmon4073 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Dan let’s his feelings get involved with every debate lmao

    • @Vincent-um9pi
      @Vincent-um9pi 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And that's a good thing.

    • @tigerhoods7927
      @tigerhoods7927 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lol you can tell he’s an emotional dude

  • @abizar3660
    @abizar3660 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

    This is problem with Dan. They are looking at Allen at his best, but Allen at his worst has been the reason they lose. Tua, when healthy, is to be trusted. Lately, Allen has shown he cannot be trusted.

    • @danielventura8118
      @danielventura8118 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Tua at his best will always lose to Josh Allen at his best that’s why

    • @sirhoopalot1125
      @sirhoopalot1125 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@danielventura8118that’s cap if the Dolphins had Tua last year they beat Buffalo you buggin

    • @RyuujinLetum
      @RyuujinLetum 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@danielventura8118 not a fan of either team. But if Tua was healthy they would've won the East

    • @Maidandthepocketwatchofblood
      @Maidandthepocketwatchofblood 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@danielventura8118Stop drinking the kool-aid and open your eyes.

    • @DuckFanDane
      @DuckFanDane 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No, Dan is looking at the full picture and everybody else like SAS is looking at his words and acting like that’s why he does every single week. Dan is saying he does this sometimes but more often than not. He is fantastic and he has a great record in the playoffs. Everybody in the media is talking about the bad but the fact is on the regular. He’s one of the best three quarterbacks in the NFL

  • @jonathanwilliams0824
    @jonathanwilliams0824 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Preach Dan!!!!!! Y'all better listen to Dan Orlovsky!!!!

  • @Jafiki
    @Jafiki 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    Dan wants Josh Allen to be great so bad lmao 💀

    • @Mystery1140
      @Mystery1140 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      He is great

    • @johnbennett1729
      @johnbennett1729 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Allen is great you morons are ridiculous

    • @Xavier11870
      @Xavier11870 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dan wanted Carson Wentz to be great remember that😂

    • @johnbennett1729
      @johnbennett1729 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Xavier11870 Allen is great

    • @Xavier11870
      @Xavier11870 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@johnbennett1729he’s not anymore 😂

  • @Ao-goat
    @Ao-goat 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    SAS cooked them both lmfao 😂😂😂

  • @CLS_7301
    @CLS_7301 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    Nothing wrong with taking Tua he’s upside crazy. Josh Allen leads the league in turnovers since he got drafted that’s a issue.

    • @danielventura8118
      @danielventura8118 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Tua also has an amazing offensive coach and a way better team around him

    • @jabaricrewsellis8740
      @jabaricrewsellis8740 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I hope Tua makes it thru the whole season.

  • @kel12121
    @kel12121 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Stephen A clearly won this argument

  • @balbenry2239
    @balbenry2239 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is one of the best episodes/segments in a while. 🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @suppercalholl1
    @suppercalholl1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    Stephen A , got them jokers up off him!!!!!!😂

    • @BuuhBlocks
      @BuuhBlocks 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So you think if youre extra loud then you must be correct lol? Why do you think Stephen A said we dont need to bring up any tape lmao. He constantly talks about how certain players havnt won in the playoffs

    • @sirhoopalot1125
      @sirhoopalot1125 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@BuuhBlocksAllen hasn’t even been to the sb and Mahomes has 2 foh

    • @tmc31390
      @tmc31390 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BuuhBlocksStephen A definitely said players need to win playoff games, but the question was “Can Josh Allen be trusted to get Bills to Super Bowl?”. And Stephen A answered that question… and for those who think he’s incorrect clearly has not been watching the Bills in the last two postseasons.

  • @Jay24962
    @Jay24962 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    “sit down, you’re too short for that” 😂😂

  • @ochohunchoz8756
    @ochohunchoz8756 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great show

  • @kcakiid
    @kcakiid 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    They just be on first take HAVING FUN lol and I love it.

  • @isaacberry389
    @isaacberry389 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I’m ngl Sas really held his own on a 2v1😂😂😂

  • @liu_kang_kicks2349
    @liu_kang_kicks2349 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    4:54in the suite wit Justin Timberlake 😂😂😂

  • @ericfrom8508
    @ericfrom8508 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    best debate they’ve had on this show in a while bravo

  • @johnniemcfadden1840
    @johnniemcfadden1840 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Keep that same energy with Josh Allen with the INTs just like how y'all do with Dak when he throws INTs and I'm not even a Cowboys fan

    • @spitzrealist86
      @spitzrealist86 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s all Stephen A is really saying. Dan giving Allen a pass but going in on dak is malarkey

    • @lorneglennii
      @lorneglennii 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you bro, I appreciate you calling it down the middle.

  • @RackzTheGeneral
    @RackzTheGeneral 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    My boy Stephen A Got The W on this one and it was a handicap match lol

    • @spitzrealist86
      @spitzrealist86 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      😂😂he killed them both 😂😂😂Molly just witnessed two murders

    • @Mystery1140
      @Mystery1140 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Over last two years
      Josh allen 29 ints
      Mahomes 25 ints
      Burrow 26 ints
      Lol

    • @RackzTheGeneral
      @RackzTheGeneral 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@spitzrealist86 😂😂😂facts Molly a witness now Stephen A on a roll

    • @philthyrich007
      @philthyrich007 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Smackdown vs Raw

    • @abc_12333
      @abc_12333 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Mystery1140 FUMBLES are turnovers too!! Learn football please.

  • @nevillecoley4976
    @nevillecoley4976 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    How can you trust a player that gives the ball away so much !’

    • @theshawshankinception1220
      @theshawshankinception1220 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Because he can single-handedly win any game. Because he’s a top 2 QB in the NFL. Because he’s an alien. Because he’s clearly the guy.

    • @nevillecoley4976
      @nevillecoley4976 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@theshawshankinception1220 and in the same breath he can single handily lose the game because of 3 interceptions and a fumble or two and I think he has elite talent but trust him naw I don’t

  • @camronmatthews23
    @camronmatthews23 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great debate/segment

  • @SuperMaine850
    @SuperMaine850 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    I think defenses are starting to realize shutting down Diggs will slow Josh’s production. Josh Allen was not putting up great numbers until Diggs got there.

    • @philthyrich007
      @philthyrich007 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Plus the only OC he had success with is gone too

    • @johnbennett1729
      @johnbennett1729 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Moron Diggs had 11 receptions and over 100 yards

    • @Sebastian-in4po
      @Sebastian-in4po 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@johnbennett1729and they lost. You wanna keep over targeting diggs and look what happened. 3 INT . Cope

    • @danielventura8118
      @danielventura8118 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Sebastian-in4pohe didn’t over target him lmao 😂

    • @jayroterry8405
      @jayroterry8405 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@danielventura8118he did

  • @johnboy1760
    @johnboy1760 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Josh Allen absolutely has the talent to do it, but he’s inconsistent. He is the modern day Brett Favre. He can dazzle you as he did in his shootout with Mahomes in that AFC championship game, or he can crush your chances of winning with sloppy picks.

    • @Cyx318830
      @Cyx318830 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Favre went to 2 Super Bowls and won one of them, while Allen made it to the AFC title game in 2021 with a shallow AFC pool. At their respective peaks, I'm taking Favre everyday of the week over Allen to lead my team to victory

    • @clarkli2936
      @clarkli2936 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Stylistically, I can see the comparison to Favre but Favre won a SB. Josh Allen is trending in the wrong direction right now

  • @gdc6153
    @gdc6153 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Josh Allen just wants to hit people. He thinks he's a linebacker 😂

  • @416TeamNoSleep
    @416TeamNoSleep 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fire episode

  • @chem1282
    @chem1282 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love this!

  • @walkoff2
    @walkoff2 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    WHAT A FLEX BY SAS!

  • @TheGrimReaper13Seconds
    @TheGrimReaper13Seconds 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    Allen has regressed the last two years. Most turnovers by a mile out of the “elite” QBs. High highs but super low lows. Overrated in the big moments. That 13 seconds ruined him and Dabs leaving

    • @sidekickht
      @sidekickht 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He was perfect in that game tho so wym?😂😂 ...13 seconds was in that defense. Last time I watched a bills game he wasn't on defense lol

    • @ishyameru6232
      @ishyameru6232 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@sidekickht So why has he lost 4 overtime games since then

    • @sidekickht
      @sidekickht 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ishyameru6232 Go re-read what I wrote bud. I ain't a bills fan, but I saw that 13 sec game and I addressed what that man said specifically. Don't get to confused.👌🏽

    • @RS-bl4zo
      @RS-bl4zo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      His oc left to ny

    • @TheGrimReaper13Seconds
      @TheGrimReaper13Seconds 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sidekickht he leads the league in turnovers the last few years

  • @Cato5_0
    @Cato5_0 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love this trio!

  • @QuincyMThomas
    @QuincyMThomas 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had to like this. Well done

  • @kwasiharris4859
    @kwasiharris4859 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great television 👏👏👏

  • @isthatdave55
    @isthatdave55 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Stephen a tore the whole panel a new one
    Excuse me Excuse me you didn't even have the Dolphins winning the AFC East
    I had AR-12 and the Jets SINCE YOU WANNA LEAVE THAT OUT. Got dog SAS you was on one

  • @sportsfantastic361
    @sportsfantastic361 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is why we need a running game to be able to give Allen that support or to help work him n the game or to kinda stop the bleeding

  • @PhoenixEnt100
    @PhoenixEnt100 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love it 😂😂😂

  • @joshthegreatestone
    @joshthegreatestone 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    If you take Stefon Diggs away from Josh Allen, he’s essentially Carson Wentz 2.0

    • @abc_12333
      @abc_12333 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      A running Carson Wentz

    • @dropssky
      @dropssky 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Carson Wentz with 10 extra STR

  • @ZTK05
    @ZTK05 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Diggs is never happy unless he's getting 10+ targets a game. If you think Allen is a top 5 QB and can't take his team to a SB then something is wrong. If he's a top 5 QB then he definitely has the ability to be a SB winning QB.
    SA said he trusts Tua more than Allen then immediately back tracked when Dan questioned him. Then he says he doesn't trust Tua, he trusts Hill and Waddle. This was a debate about QBs not talent around them.
    As a team I like Miami more than Buffalo. When we're talking QBs I'll take Allen before Tua.

    • @RS-bl4zo
      @RS-bl4zo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Allen keep forcing it to diggs n turnig the ball over

    • @tmc31390
      @tmc31390 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Josh has top 5 talent, but having the most turnovers since he’s been drafted can’t be ignored. People have dragged Jameis Winston for his turnovers, they’ve dragged Dak (and he’s not as turnover prone as people want to believe), and it’s time we have that same conversation about Allen.
      And To be fair to Tua, his biggest issue is his availability, but he’s showing that he can hang with Allen. As someone else said in another comment, defenses have figured out that you can neutralize Allen’s passing by locking up Diggs, and they’re right.
      Also, I’m going to say it… I remember saying to my peoples during that Bills/Dolphins playoff game that the Bills were getting knocked out by the Bengals. They struggled with a Dolphins team without Tua… and that’s what end up happening: Burrow and the boys knocked them out on the ROAD.

    • @ZTK05
      @ZTK05 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tmc31390
      I wouldn't say defenses have figured out Allen. Over the past couple seasons Davis has given up yards due to his inconsistent catching. Plus Buffalo has always struggled running the ball with their backs, that makes them one dimensional.
      Allen's talent makes me trust him more than Tua. Tua doesn't have deep ball accuracy. Notice how most have his yards come from Hill or Waddle running after the catch.
      I'm not saying Tua isn't talented but he's being carried by two top level receivers and a good HC.

  • @gurunabil2010
    @gurunabil2010 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    "Because he's throwing to Tyreek Hill!" should've ended it there lmao

  • @KJELITE01
    @KJELITE01 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    First take been lit😂😂😂 vibes different

  • @Kipmoney_
    @Kipmoney_ 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The film doesn’t lie. How can you say Allen is capable of this & that and hasn’t accomplished any of the things they trust him to do. Hilarious

  • @pL_01
    @pL_01 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I’m actually enjoying watching first take these days 👍 would like even more if we had Shannon Sharpe on 5 days a week. Don’t remove any other guests just have uncle sharpe on daily

  • @TLR1988
    @TLR1988 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Lol I like how she checked Stephen about that collar choke and he still kept going lol. I love when they disagree but can still keep the show going w/o showing anger over opinions.

  • @MarkJackson-od3fi
    @MarkJackson-od3fi 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Shannon not being on every day is criminal
    Also Kimberly ALWAYS seems sleepy...like she finna nod off..or her brain is buffering

  • @andref9663
    @andref9663 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Dan and Kim sound ridiculous. Why would you trust Josh Allen when since last season, he has 30 interceptions and fumbles? He has not been great for 90% of his career. He was below average his first two years, good for two years with Daboll, and then bad last year with all the turnovers. You can't be a great QB if you rely on one coordinator to be great.

    • @johnbennett1729
      @johnbennett1729 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Absolutely ridiculous he was elite for three years in a row moron

    • @juiceloose2462
      @juiceloose2462 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He wasn’t bad last year

  • @krazikiddkash
    @krazikiddkash 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Lol 😂 let dak or Kirk or cousins or jalen hurts turn the ball over that many times they would crush them but it’s okay for Josh Allen

    • @princecheck11
      @princecheck11 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      exactly literally any of those 3 would be getting set on fire by the media at least SA waken up

    • @sonikspeed19
      @sonikspeed19 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He's the Media darling 3-4 years in a row now. They can't turn on him cause that would mean admitting they were wrong. Allen is what Trey Lance was going to be in the Niners. Came from a small school, had little experience but high potential, very inaccurate and makes bad decisions. But the Media killed Trey while they suck up to Allen. Color me surprised.

  • @Sir_Cates
    @Sir_Cates 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yeahh Dan!! This is why I love Dan on the Show. He gets on Stephen A. 😤🤣

  • @jemane7757
    @jemane7757 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    These guys are hilarious lol😅

  • @tristanturner972
    @tristanturner972 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I'll take Tua to the superbowl over josh allen hands down. Chiefs fan

    • @joebuffy1840
      @joebuffy1840 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Tua was always accurate. The only thing is health. Josh wants to play like Superman.

  • @tristanturner972
    @tristanturner972 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I'm so tired of these josh allen d riders bro like it never stops. He isn't as good as you think he is. He is talented but he will not take them to the super bowl unless he foxes his issues. He is the Russell Westbrook of the NFL

    • @zack1610
      @zack1610 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Brett Favre 2.0

    • @joebuffy1840
      @joebuffy1840 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cam Newton 2.0

  • @noelrivera6058
    @noelrivera6058 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This debate was 🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @deontaedavis9426
    @deontaedavis9426 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    good answer

  • @OGMillyMillz_
    @OGMillyMillz_ 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Can you trust Steven A’s barber?

    • @RayMon504
      @RayMon504 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      LMFAO.

    • @whoishim2998
      @whoishim2998 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Kinda bro been doing gods work with SAS hairline 😂😂

    • @martaviouspaul7117
      @martaviouspaul7117 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂😂😂😂

  • @andrewroling8111
    @andrewroling8111 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    83 picks since 2018. Funny how they never brought that up.

    • @natehenry2980
      @natehenry2980 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      60 picks. 83 overall turnovers when you include fumbles

    • @andrewroling8111
      @andrewroling8111 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@natehenry2980 you’re right I should’ve said turnovers. Good looks on pointing that out.

  • @neomafabatho72
    @neomafabatho72 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was great 😅😅😅

  • @montezdawkins6624
    @montezdawkins6624 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great Discussion Steven A an Dan 💯💯got me tuned in😂😂

  • @jong6779
    @jong6779 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Yo Dan!! The type of mistakes that Josh Allen does is what has held the Bills from going to the Super Bowl. Yes, he is a great QB, but that 90% that you are talking about has mainly been during the season. What matters is playoffs- Josh hasn’t taking the Bills to Super Bowl. if he doesn’t correct some of those mistakes (like in week 1), he is gonna get crushed every time - especially in the playoffs.

    • @crustybs46
      @crustybs46 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      josh allen has the same ammount of post season INT's as joe burrow does having played 1 more game than burrow.

    • @mrgetitdone85
      @mrgetitdone85 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@crustybs46how about fumbles?

    • @crustybs46
      @crustybs46 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@mrgetitdone85 2. And one came a game they won and scored 34 points in. So again. He's had one actual bad mistake game in the playoffs in his career, a game which they won.

    • @jong6779
      @jong6779 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m guessing you are Bills fan. No shame in that. I’m just stating the facts! Look, Joe Burrow has taken the Bengals to the Super Bowl, AND being a underdog throughout the playoffs. He didn’t win but he’s been there, with less talented team than the Bills.

    • @jong6779
      @jong6779 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think Josh Allen needs to tweak his game a little bit. That’s all

  • @raniasaad8772
    @raniasaad8772 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    why does allen get slack but dak doesnt? dak has by far less turnovers in his career than allen, yet dak gets blamed much more. its actually ridiculous

    • @princecheck11
      @princecheck11 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Bc one plays for dallas & the media wants Josh allen to be the best qb in the league to help w their narrative’s

    • @Marcus_shawn
      @Marcus_shawn 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Cause one is white and one is black 😂

    • @swaglord1522
      @swaglord1522 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why do u post questions like this if u think u already know the answer

    • @jordansmith4758
      @jordansmith4758 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you!

    • @melanatedgod5337
      @melanatedgod5337 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You already know.

  • @syherbo5655
    @syherbo5655 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love how molly is always there to make sure it doesnt get outta hand, long as she doesnt talk sports i love her on the show, best moderator in her field

  • @lucasongaming554
    @lucasongaming554 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I thought the video froze at the beginning lmao lady was stuck! That was good lol

  • @elliotb1795
    @elliotb1795 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Not every quarterback who has won a superbowl is great, and not every quarterback who hasn't won one is bad.
    Josh is a great quarterback who had to shift his style of play to a run style because his offense and receivers couldn't get it done in the traditional sense. And I think it's made him take 2 steps backwards in terms of his development up to this point.
    Just gotta get him back on the right track and be a passer again, not some guy who gives 1 look then tucks the ball in and runs.
    Look, if we gave up on every guy because he didn't win a superb owl in the first few years of his career, there'd be no sport.
    It's nonsense to think otherwise.

    • @jamesbb4
      @jamesbb4 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What you say is true, but partially, because of this show, people don't do that anymore. If you don't have a ring, you're trash, and if you do have a ring, they move to you're not better than the guy who has more. I personally think Josh allen is good but extremely overrated same as Herbert. They for some reason get passes other qbs don't get.

    • @abc_12333
      @abc_12333 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But Josh Allen's Superbowl window is short. Most likely 4 years because he takes too many hits when he runs. He will become today's Cam Newton soon.

  • @swaglord1522
    @swaglord1522 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Brett favre won a superbowl 🤷‍♂️ wouldn't bet on Josh Allen but ya never know

    • @kingg_shuffle3513
      @kingg_shuffle3513 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That was before he was a turn over machine and also when he won they had a solid running game buffalo does not have a good running game

  • @AliFrankTheTank
    @AliFrankTheTank 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    He fallin out that top 5!!! ahah

  • @nybone24
    @nybone24 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    “You are too short” haha

  • @yung5hun440
    @yung5hun440 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dan looking like an accountant for the Mafia wit them glasses on😂

  • @renerivota952
    @renerivota952 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    “ we’re right here “ lmao 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @MultiKushie
    @MultiKushie 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    He’s on the Madden cover. I wouldn’t trust him either 😂

  • @Krazy.Kulture
    @Krazy.Kulture 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    She tries to stand too 😂😂😂