Should opinions change about Josh Allen after Bills 27-24 loss vs. Chiefs? | NFL | SPEAK
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- Emmanuel Acho, Joy Taylor, LeSean McCoy and James Jones reflect on whether their thoughts of Josh Allen have changed with the Buffalo Bills 27-24 loss to the Kansas City Chiefs.
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No
This is the worst Chiefs offense, not the worst Chiefs team.
Right
I believe this team is better than the 2022 sb championship team. Eliminate the stupid drops, and Chris jones not sitting out and this team might be 15-2 or 16-1.
ehh... Idk 2018 is close but the offense was definitely FAR better that year. The defense is FAR better this year. Its definitely one of the 2 worst teams, atleast statistically.
Is it the worst Chiefs offense???
They only punted once in this game. Maybe it's the Bills who had a decimated D-fence then...
That's essentially the same. Worst overall team, because the offense has been holding the team back. 10-7 record, worst in the Mahomes era. Least amount of PPG and YPG in the Mahomes era. These are things that only the offense is at fault, but enough to drag the whole team down.
This is also the best Chiefs defense in the Mahomes era though, so it looked very worrying for us Chiefs fans that the offense is wasting our goooooooood defense during the regular season.
yall crush certain guys for not getting it done but constantly give Josh a pass every year
This isn’t golf, josh can’t throw, catch, run, and kick balls.
exactly anyone else the would talk for days on why they can't get it done regardless of what happened when it's Josh Allen they have every excuse for him
@@promotechs2540 reasons not excuses.
well they need to give those same "reasons" to other QBs when they talk@@michaeldipaola1313
@@michaeldipaola1313can’t run yet his running game is part of what kept the bills in the game against the chief’s ???
It's a proven fact at this point that no matter what the form of the Chiefs is in the regular season, Mahomes and co turn up in the playoffs. Crazy to think that since becoming a starter, Mahomes never settled for anything less than an AFC championship game.
Win or lose against the Ravens, Chiefs already made everyone in the Kingdom proud.
Facts
Mahomes was Alex Smith in that game...Kelce was wide open on a TD ...the NFL is national fixed league anyway
Bet money
@@DeportillegalAliens why are you listening to nfl pundits if the league is rigged then?
@@DeportillegalAlienskeep coping
Shady excuses and refusal to be objective is funny at this point
He a CLOWN
Naw it’s not funny anymore
Meatball head is nothing but a stuttering fangirl. He has more excuses than somebody going to jail for the athletes/teams he likes but he's super critical of the ones he doesn't. He's a fraudulent sports analyst. He has no objectivity.
He can’t be objective w Allen cause that’s his boy
Immature
How its okay for josh not to beat mahomes but lamar has to beat mahomes to prove something to you shady?
Exactly, and we don’t even play the Chiefs like that anymore.
@@trupoet089 remember people often discredit Eli for anything. Look at how shady spoke about him and defended Allen as if Eli hadn't won two by his 6th year. Both against Brady.
Ravens fans are becoming like bucks fans
Dak can’t get to the nfc championship against a weaker conference with a stacked team. Josh Allen is up against Mahomes every play offs. It’s different…. it’s different
Lamar doesn't have to beat Mahomes he just needs to start winning in the playoffs. 2019 #1 seed and done in 1rd. He has a bad playoff record. Now that he's advancing to the AFC championship and has 1 confirmed MVP with a 2nd on the way people will not be as questioning of his greatness.
Don't ever forget that Shady and Acho both chose Josh Allen over Mahomes before this game LMAO
no Shady didnt?? He was very vocal about mahomes winning
No he chose the Bills! He straddle the fence@princecheck11
Exactly
@@princecheck11 Nah, there was a graphic bro in live TV, not in youtube that had a head to head of Coach, QB, Offense, Defense and x Factor. Both Acho and Shady chose Josh Allen as the QB
It's funny how Acho gave the same take on Josh Allen that Shady gives on Dak
Because Josh doesn’t believe in that top 2
@@TyAintGonEatNoiHopbelong* but you right tho
Because he knows that josh won't do it
Its also.funny shady does the.same.to.dak tho
lmao yeah he does actually@@TyAintGonEatNoiHop
The media has tried for years to put the qb crown on Allen. And we make excuses everytime they lose. At some point, there are no more excuses to use
All I see from the National Media is Allen throws too many Picks... He is inaccurate... Makes dumb decisions....
When he loses in the Playoffs he isn't clutch or see he isn't good... But only Mahomes has more TD's than Allen in his first 10 games... And it seems that only Mahomes can beat him too.
Who? Everybody seems to unanimously agree its Pat.
@@answeris4217Joe Burrow did it also
What? The media been calling Mahomes the goat since like his 2nd year starting, you can't crown Allen, Mahomes already has the golden boy title.
@@user-lt1fx2he5s Did you watch that game... The Bills didn't play that game... I mean they were physically there but they were spent.
Not saying that Burrow can't win against Josh... He sertainly can but that game wasn't a contest... The entire team had their mind in a different place.
The Hamlin dying on the field thing was real and it effected the team the entire way through remainder of the season.
The score was 27-24 the entire 4th quarter lol, if this was Herbert or Dak this show would be going crazy. 😊
Did you watch the game???
FYI... Herbert would need to reach the Playoffs... And Dak would need to play better in the Playoffs... Josh has double Dak's TD's in the playoffs and almost half his INTs.
@@answeris4217and yet he only has 2 more wins than Dak in the playoffs and as many losses as Dak in the playoffs
@@answeris4217 yeah I did the score was 27-24 and he put up zero points the entire 4th quarter
@@user-lt1fx2he5show many more TDs thank Dak as well, how many less turnovers, in how many less years as a starter??? Why don’t you add those ones up too chief
@@user-lt1fx2he5s2 more wins are a lot considering it's the playoffs
I don’t know how Josh could get all this credit, but be held to no standards.
What’s wrong with the credit he gets?
Um, because Josh is the bestest there ever was forever. That's why he's already won 3 mvps, 4 Heismans, 6 golden boot trophies, the Cy young award, 7 superbowls, and 3 rookie of the year awards. Duh. At least that's what I infer based on media coverage.
How isn't he held to no standards? Elaborate
@@jml5100least delusional bills fan
@@jml5100 what? That makes no sense to me.
Trent Dilfer won a Superbowl. The reason Football is so fulfilling is it's a team game, the better team wins. Chiefs were the better team in all three phases.
The leagues and media love making it about the "stars". The Jordan complex. No one likes giving Scottie credit or role players
Say it again.
@@dranelgrim Jordan also stepped up when the game was on the line no disrespect to Scottie or the role players
Trent Dilfer also had Shannon Sharpe a good running game and an elite defense led by Ray Lewis and all he had to do was not turn the football over
@user-lt1fx2he5s the point of this thread is that it takes a TEAM
Oh if it had been Dak his whole narrative would have changed foh. Allen aint no different than Dak foh Shady
Allen didn't lose the bills this game. Dak threw a pick 6
💯
Boy please, taking josh over dak all day errday.😏
Facts
@@kaza_family5950Josh definitely lost that game
The josh allen excuses smh..if it is lamar he would be killed
We know what it is lol
Josh allen has never played as poor as lamar has in a playoff game. Learn to differentiate between individual play and how he contributes towards the win and the team's overall play which in buffalos case contributes to a close loss.
Ill give u some names: Diggs, Sherfield, Terrence, McGovern and everyone on defense except Rousseau and Dodson. Them collectively is why the Bills lost. Not allen who did more than enough to contribute to a win.
@user-bv9yy4rc8z the conversation would be "see, Lamar can't get it done in the playoffs"
@@user-bv9yy4rc8zLamar never will have 20 something turnovers either....Josh is not on Lamars level
Facts but he not better than Josh Allen ??? 😂 Makes no sense
It’s crazy how most of them would pick Allen over Jackson but all he has did is let his team down and win divisions it’s the excuses for him but none of it it for Jackson 🤦🏾♂️😔
Lamar will take the ring and Allen can take their crown
Cmon big bro you kno2 what it is man they never wanted Lamar as a QB so he breaking the mold. They will always make up excuses for Josh Allen regardless of how he play. Allen has the most ints out of all QBs since 2018 but yet he get a pass everytime
@@phamilyg3577 and the most touchdowns
@@jzdust1LJ wins 75% of his games G in a better division then the AFC East
The defense played shifty we had 3rd stringers
Shady didn't mention the fumbles Josh Allen had , why is that !!!!
never does
Didn't cause a turnover so it doesn't happen. Same with Mahomes or anyone else really.
What a horrible and stupid take.. if my aunt had a balls she would have been an uncle.
Remember they work for a white Network they can't go in on the white boys just like Steve in the rest of the clowns that's why I go to the TH-cam channels where they give him the business at
This is hate. Its like counting an "almost interception" its not a turnover so it doesnt matter.
No way shady think Josh better than Lamar😭😭😭
He is
@@austin_madore9417u sound stupid 😂😂 20 turnovers every year 😂😂 brett farve jr
@@nenola504 Josh Allen is 6’5” 240 lbs more athletic, more psychical, stronger, and a better arm. Brett Favre was never on Josh Allen level.
Josh is better than Lamar
@@hurleygonzalezso he’s just a bigger Favre🤣🤣
Wait, am I hearing it wrong or are they forgetting that Lamar beat Mahomes already in 2021
Talking playoffs brodie
Playoffs cuh we know Lamar had the good game back n forth game but playoffs even know Lamar mostly been hurt
LJ is 1-3 against Mahomes....not something to bring up kid.
Yeah once off a fumble from CEH. Mahomes has owned the ravens for years.
The Raiders finally beat Mahomes in 2023, and they are all at home on their couches. This is the longest Lamar has gone without getting injured and screwing his team over. Heck, the Broncos beat the Chiefs this year. A single defeat does not set a precedent or show one team has a weakness to another. Wouldn’t hang my hat on that ‘21 win.
I agree with Acho. The word “GREAT” gets thrown around too loosely. Josh can be Super Talented, but GREAT has to be earned.
First player in NFL history to have Four Seasons with 40 touchdowns. One of his many n f l records
His stats are great through his first 5 years other than interceptions. But it's still not even close to his touchdown. Interception ratio in his career.
@@mikepannucio2315😂With the most turnovers in 5 years boy you want it to be sunny and there’s too many rainy days. He’s good for at least 20 turnovers a year almost. So what’s the point of having a total of 40 touchdowns if you’re giving the other team half of it back. You sound slow.
@@lees5953 Mahomes had 19 interceptions in his last MVP season.
Everyone acts like Allen is the only one turning the ball over
@@mikepannucio2315he leads the league almost every year though. That isn’t the same as having plenty of turnovers. He is good. Top 5 easily. But when it comes to being great, there’s levels. Burrow has made the bowl, lamar has 2 mvps or will and then there’s the king, mahomes with everything. If burrow or lamar aren’t considered greats, Allen isn’t close.
almost like there aint 52 other players on the team that need to pull there weight...
You didn’t play in either superbowl! In your own high pitched voice “that’s the truuuth!”
Josh is better than Lamar ? Are we crazy ?
He is, Lamar has a better team
@@dereklasker5350idk a 2 time mvp might be worse than someone who didn’t even make an all pro team, let’s not forget the turnovers either
@@dereklasker5350 two time mvp
All pro
Lol okay
@@dereklasker5350Allen has lead the league in turn overs for the last 3 years!
@@tysmith2138 Allen’s turn over percentage (what actually matters when discussing turnovers) is middle of the league, first of all. Second of all, even considering the turnovers, he is statically so good the other 98% of the game that it does not matter
Really???? Josh is better than Lamar? How, how , how? 2 MVPs for Lamar AFC championship for both, much better win percentage for Lamar. Apparently the bias will always continue against Lamar no matter what he does and it isn't fair.
Josh does everything Lamar can do but better.
@@luiscruz3261Like win an MVP?
@@luiscruz3261bro that’s just a lie.
@lucasd5304 MVP in NFL is given.
Of course because he don't fit the standard look of the prototypical QB
shady always got them kneepads for josh
Cho said Josh is better too.
Joy “I’m with Shady” Taylor will never be 100.
Too much fixation on QB's. If your defense is good enough to disrupt the QB his team will lose.
Ironically, the same play that cost the bills the game is the whole reason Andy got a defense to solve a shoot out. It's hard to paint a picture on QB's by themselves, cause you have people that supports them. The most common way to judge greatness is how they performed under pressure and did they win in the end. Also how often did they do it. It's like on the movie Rocky Balboa. Unless you went to battle with a great opponent and won, it's not considered great. Especially, if you was against the odds to do it. So the question is, how many straight test battles had any quarter backs had to reach that? How many quarter backs can go 13 secs and tie a game. Plus, QB's are always going to be tied to their coaches. It's the luck of the draw.
Nah Shady gotta get outta here....he was riding Allen all year now he at home
Problem is you keep moving the goal post for him. You slaughter guys like dak and since he puts up numbers he gets a pass. To be fair, peyton beat tom in the afc championship and won the superbowl in the same time frame these two are playing each other. not a good comparison.
Yep. They give Josh excuses and passes every year for the same result. Yet Dak they crucify him.
Dak threw 2 INT's one for 6 against the 7th seed.... Won 2 playoff games in his entire carreer.
Josh threw 4 INTs in the playoffs his entire career so far and has 28 total TDs in the playoffs... Oh and he only once lost the first game in the playoffs.
@@answeris4217Yet he’s 0-3 in the divisional round and 0-2 at home
@@answeris4217 if he's so great why can't he ever make it to the Super Bowl? Seems like there's always an excuse for his playoff failures.
9 fumbles as well. Don't know why you left that out.
@@bamfordblue6853 Because he loses every year to the team who wins.
Josh cannot do everything, his defense let him down. All the defense had to do is stop them a couple times in the first half.
Yes they should. This is the 4th straight season that Josh has led Buffalo to the playoffs only to get kicked to the curb by Patrick or Burrow. He’s overhyped before the regular season only to be booted come playoff time. I think Josh is an awesome qb, but he never delivers on the hype he gets
Josh Allen Failed in the Clutch = 2 Minute Drill !! Make the Right Reads & Make the Right Plays! Take the Short 10 yard Completion, & Not the Endzone Shot!
He didn't miss the field goal
@@jmc2204He missed a wide open receiver
I don't know what more you want from Allen. He is first in the league in EPA in the last 2 min. Ahead of Mahomes. When corrected for drops, he has the best EPA in the league, and his receivers get the least separation of all QBs. 1st in yards. 1 in touchdowns. One of the Lowest turnover worthy play rates in the league. Better than Mahommes # and best of his career. Last night he accounted for every score and the vast majority of yards.
Green Bay has drafted 6+ WRs and tight ends in the 5th round or better since Love has been drafted. Bills drafted one and is spending all their money on defense. The #1 receiver he does have disappeared.
Last night was not perfect, but he has his #1 receiver dropping 50 yard dimes, not to mention other huge drops by Sherrield. His defense couldn't stop anyone, to the point that McDermott tried a fake punt to keep the ball. His kicker is having a down year and bad game. He can't play defense, catch his own passes, or kick as well. He also has to play against his own coach's game management. 3 times this year the lead he gave got blown by McDermott.
Yet despite all the challenges this year, his numbers were closer to MVPs of years past than anyone else.
I like the Chiefs and Mahommes is great. If it wasn't for Taylor Swift distracting from the game ,I would root for them. But Allen does more with less and is held to a standard no one else is.
@@michaeloneill1360He literally has the best EPA in the last 2 min this year.
As a Giants fan I'm confused. If making it to the super bowl itself is such a high accolade then I think they need to reevaluate their recent opinions on Jalen Hurts as he definitely made it to one and came close to winning. As for Brady and his compatriots it's a bit of a toss up because on one end, it took Peyton 9 years, on the other it took Eli less years than it took Allen on fact Eli won two by this point in his career. Many make arguments about that first super bowl being the giants snatching victory from defeat but no one argues how good that second Superbowl team was overall. Accolades are accolades. I think Allen will get there and he is great but he and his TEAM must find a way over the hurdle. It's not all on him. Just like it isn't all on any one QB. Too often people forget that.
Tell Cowboys fans that 🙄 Some of their fans swear to God and his son Jesus that Dallas wins or loses SOLELY because of Dak Prescott. Those nit wits saw him play this year with one receiver to talk about (Cee Dee Lamb) and no running game and they STILL blamed him 100% for the team's failures totally ignoring it is a TEAM effort. Mind blowing to say the least.
Your right everyone blames josh .the defense did not show up.
Josh's guys simply didn't show up. Too many dropped passes
Stop saying josh allen is better than lamar when josh literally aint done sh*t to prove it
Look at their playoff stats. Josh is a significantly better performer in the playoffs than Lamar. He consistently scores more TDs and yards than Lamar in the regular season.
he's been in more playoff games as Lamar was injured for two seasons so I would hope he has more TDs he also has alot more interceptions overall probably more than most QBs of his era. And how is he a better performer when he has never made farther in the playoffs than Lamar even with that fact he had 2 extra seasons to do so@@SlimTim222
How has lamar proved hes better when he hasnt gone as far until this year😅
look up the individual historical records he has broken and has more individual achievements@@carbon.the.christ5626
@@SlimTim222That’s such a nonsensical way of looking at things. Both Jackson and Allen came in the league the same year 2018. Jackson made the playoffs Allen didn’t. Jackson didn’t play well. Of the 7 TO they consistently talk about at least 3 were in that game. So Jackson is dinged for playing better than Allen and getting his team to the playoffs.
Then Allen wins his division gets a home game against probably the 7 or the 6 seed. The 7 seed first win was vs the Cowboys this year so he is getting easy competition (The Steelers we’re garbage and didn’t deserve a playoff spot). Jackson twice gets the bye so no bad 6 or 7 seeds.
Jackson has played two whole seasons and won MVP both times. The two injury years his team was winning the AFC or was second to KC. Assuming Jackson loses they both got to one championship game and Allen has lost more times in the divisional round as he has played more times there.
I remind you. Every single time Peyton went to the Super Bowl he did it with a different head coach. The first and only Qb in NFL history to take four different head coaches to the Super Bowl. That means something. Brady did it with two different head coaches.
Josh Allen is the dude the NFL and media wanted to be the best player cuz of his complication but he could never beat his father Patrick Mahommes. Changed OT Rule, fire OC etc but at the end it’s time to realize y’all responsible for putting the dude that high of a pedestal when he doesn’t deserve it.
Did you mean "complexion?"
You think Burrow is better than him!?
The nfl doesn’t even push Allen it’s just some of the media. Many talking heads have been saying he has massive holes in his game since diggs got there(reckless gunslinger, backyard type player, subpar processing, etc)
Patty is literally pushed in our faces all day between commercials, media gushing(Tony romo and collinsworth I’ve never seen a throw like that blah blah blah) and even greats like manning/brady giving him advice. Come off it Patrick is pushed more than any player in nfl history right now(constantly called the new GOAT) 😂
That’s because Patrick’s got the rings and the mvps to back it up
@@Boredmillenial He's got the complication for the proliferation.
Josh Allen is 1-5 vs starting QB’s in the playoffs, but they don’t wanna talk about that
They also don't want to talk about his defense letting up 34 ppg in their last 4 playoff losses. Allen has 27 touchdowns and 6 turnovers in his 10 playoff games and his defense constantly chokes. What more was he supposed to do in this game or the 2021 afc divisional. He had 260 yards and 3 touchdowns vs the chiefs. 3 drives ended because of huge dropped deep balls. How does that get ignored.
@@lorddonk9806 Not true the Chiefs scored 27
@@nelsonadams3609 you must have misread. In their last 4 playoff losses. The bills defense is allowing 34 ppg on average. The chiefs had 21 first downs on 43 real offensive plays. (Excluding kneel downs)
That is awful.
@@lorddonk9806 That is bad but at the end of the day the Bills had plenty of chances to win the game. If he makes one more better decision they probably win.
@nelsonadams3609 he hit 3 perfect deep balls and they were all dropped. There was nothing more he could have done. On the final drive he had a guy open for a TD but got hit when he threw. The loss is on the team. Not on him. Josh allen had 51 total touchdowns this year. Without him the bills are a 5 win team.
For Shady to say the Bills have a better overall team than the Chiefs is just crazy lol
Caught that too. Allen is the only reason they were in the game. Gabe Davis was out, Knox got hurt, Diggs had two big drops, one was like 65 yards, Cook ran for 3.4 yards a carry and the kicker missed a game tying FG.
KC has the best TE of all time. Placheco ran for 6 yards a carry and KC has a better defense and way better coaching. Plus couldn't get any pressure on Mahomes.
Was literally doing everything for the bills on offense. And defense was battered. Losing White and Milano was just devastating to their defense
@wolfkingt they talk about Burrow beating the Mahomes in the AFC championship. The Bengals defense also picked off Mahomes twice and forced 4 punts and the the Bengals Kicker was 4/4 on FGs.
If the Bills defense force 4 punts and got 2 ints, the bills with Allen would have won easily won.
@someguy9301 my statement was them saying that there are levels to things. But the problem with the Bills is that he had no help this game. He was the only person that really wanted it
@@wolfkingt, yea I'm agreeing with you.
People need to stop making excuses for Josh Allen. Shady and Joy are Josh Allen apologist
Excuses???
Threw 10 Playoff games the only player to have better statistics in the history of the game is Hahomes.
Who keeps beating him.
Just because Mahomes, and the Chiefs always get by. Allen and the Bills every year. Doesn’t take away from Josh Allen consistency in talent and potential every year.
@@answeris4217I mean he folded on that last drive
@@angelmedina1629 You mean the drive were he drove the length of the field... And they missed a field goal... That drive??
@@answeris4217the drive where he missed to passes that lead to the missed fg yes. I believe that’s what they are referring to
Was he or was it JaMar making great plays?
JA 17 is a beast. He will go down in nfl history as one of the most talented QBs ever. That is all.
I agree. When everyone looks back and studies the tape and the stats, he’ll be one of the all time greats. I truly believe he’ll get one… it’s just not time yet. And if he comes up short, that sucks
yeah like micheal vick. quickly forgotten
@@CS-zz2bf nah hes phillip rivers
@@danpan6249 he's this era's Marino.
Very Phillip Rivers esque. Good stats, a few playoff wins, but can never make it to the big one, let alone win it.
Allen/Rivers comp was made by Nick Wright a day before on the same network. I'm a Chiefs fan and as a fan I fear Allen far more than any other QB in the NFL including Burrow when facing KC. I truly believe Buffalo lost because his coaching staff severely limits/has limited his play selection since they started the winning streak. During the winning streak he's looked/played as poorly as he did his first two seasons. They win 6 in a row and Josh has 5 TD PASSES / 5 Int. Most of their wins were on the back of the running game (Allen/Cook) and that running game helping the Buffalo defense stay fresh and be able to dominate. Buffalo coaching made the mistake to limit Allen and if Allen has to think and process real time he makes weird head-scratching plays (most turnovers in the league since he joined) but he makes many more plays that scorch the earth and steals the heart of the opposing defense. The only person that can legitimately stop Josh Allen is Josh Allen. Oh, and Josh Allen's coaching/coordinators. Buffalo coaches differently vs KC because of that Championship game a few years ago, which is actually a huge mistake. A few plays that needed to be made weren't well before that field goal was missed. And the coaching decision for the fake punt was both bad and poorly executed. They didn't buy into to the play call.
“Borrow went to the Super Bowl so we say he is like that” but y’all was yapping last week if Jalen Hurts was overrated even though he went to the superbowl and y’all don’t give him half of the respect both Josh Allen and Joe borrow gets. So it must be something else👨🧔🏾♂️
Bingo
Exactly!
Nah Burrow just Better
I'm glad I'm not the only one that realize they drag black QB through the mud. The energy is totally different when talking about others.
Jalen is overrated
Put some respect on lamar please after next week
After he loses? 😂
@@wc1994 reply after the game
I'm do the same
🤣
You got it. I can hold that L
Good game...we were also down to 3rd stringers on defense. No way we were stopping Kelce with that. Our biggest weapon been a no show in clutch games.....but Kelce appears for mahomes. Good game all around.
Diggs has been missing most of the season. I believe he had 10 straight games with less than 100 yards receiving.
3rd string???
We had a LB that had a Trip set up to go RVing in Key West with his family a few weeks ago... Like a true retired couple....
Our CB were like our 6th string...
@@cameronzwicke5761 He also dropped a lot of balls during those 10 weeks... Like that sure fire TD last night.
What makes Josh Allen like that??? Cause he has a big arm 😂 foh Lamar clears that fullback
Cause he’s shadys buddy
Josh Allen balled out. The Defense, Kicker and Receivers dropping Dimes was the issue.
I saw a minimum of 3 deep passes dropped.
Josh Allen played really really well vs one of the best defenses in the league. Especially with getting zero help from his star Wr! Kudos to the Oline, Shakir and Cook who all balled out.
Mahomes and the Chiefs offense faced a defense full of substitute players in the secondary and LB core. They did what they were supposed to do and easily scored on almost every drive. Buffalo defense wasn’t even competitive. Every KC run play was gaining massive yards. Every pass play went for easy completions for massive yards. The Buffalo defense put the Buffalo offense in a position where they had to be perfect. Tough to do vs a superb KC defense. They couldn’t be perfect
Josh Allen had the ball on his hand in the red one a chance to go up and he missed wide open Diggs and Khalil Shakir. But hey let’s blame coach, defense, special team etc.
Because he's always looking to run. He is a bad qb when you look at actual qb stats
@@ChrisCash720always running just like Vick and all that running produces nothing but inconsistent play. Patrick mahomes got better when he stopped scrambling so much and kept his eyes downfield. Josh needs a good injury scare to teach him to stop looking to run every time a play looks like it’s breaking down!!
The kicker was the last one to have a chance for the bills and missed get facts maybe watch the game
@@mikehatten5738 u stupid then NFL is all about mobil QBs they are the future mahomes gad to run in this game and Miami game also hipicrites get facts scrub
I cant believe i heard those words came out of everyone's mouth. No way is Josh on Lamar level. McCoy better not be smoking that philly lean 😂
Agreed, Josh has been on a totally different level the past 4 years. Putting up historical numbers. Even dusted Lamar in the playoffs! It hasn’t been close. This is Lamar’s first year throwing for over 3000 yards lmaooooo
@@joedibs7921definitely not his first and u talkin bout years ago when it’s a whole new season and LAMAR is still playin and Josh is at home 🤷🏾♂️
Josh Allen had like two good years the past two seasons when he finally stopped fumbling and throwing 5 INTs per game and now he's the media's Tom Brady with no accomplishments to show for it lmao @@joedibs7921
@@joedibs7921 You mean historical interception numbers?
Josh has never ever ever ever did what Lamar did in 2018 and 2019. And until he does never ever say Josh is better than Lamar.
@@williejohnson5172 how many superbowl appearances allen has again?
I can’t wrap my mind why people still feel like Josh Allen is better than a soon to be 2x mvp quarterback in Lamar. Takes like that make me want to root against Josh because Lamar seems to have to do twice as much to get half the credit.
Heave you watched them play Allen is way better
@@DeportillegalAliensNo he is not
@@DeportillegalAliens😂😂😂you must be trolling
He is better. Josh Allen balls in the playoffs even more than regular season. And go look at Lamar’s numbers this season. Not better than a couple of quarterbacks. But he’s on the best team. Go look at those regular season numbers. Lamar could win it this year, we shall see.
@@mgpray lamar also have never played with a all pro receiver. His numbers before diggs got there shows what he looks like without a number 1
Next week Ravens are balling watch them for the next 5 years
If Lamar stays healthy he runs too much
Nah it’s Mahomes league and Lamar is happy to be in it! Lamar BETTER win next week because he will NOT be getting anything as of next year! They will surround Mahomes with the best weapons available. If they lose Sunday that window is closed for the foreseeable future for the AFC! Enjoy the season awards and Pro Bowl!
@@bmajorblackChiefs are getting smoked next week. Nothing better than seeing Chiefs Fans cry.
@@bmajorblackI agree regarding Baltimore, plus they have a bunch of guys on 1 year deals
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Die hard Chiefs fan:
There are always these narratives for every game. Last week you discussed if Josh Allen was under Andy Reed would it be different. An offensive minded coach. Would Josh Allen have MVPs, SB rings and in the pro bowl every year. Probably! There are variables I feel like are left out of these conversations that could change the entire dynamic of a player's career. Nothing but respect for Josh Allen!
Agreed!!!
Josh Allen showed the world two years ago that he’s him. In a way he bested Mahomes. Because in all actuality nobody, not Tom, not Mahomes, not Rodgers is supposed to score with 13 seconds. Major defensive failure.
@@mgpray every post season is a defensive failure.... this game the defense forced 5 3rd downs and 1 punt... Ppl jsut dont truely understand that JOsh having to be superman for that team to cover all of its flaws is absolutely incredible he still has that team in contention every year, and for all those saying its all because of diggs, wtf was diggs this year,
@@ShinobiXXXBDO big mistake paying an old Von Miller. They did have a lot of injuries this year. But Josh can ball. If the kicker makes the field goal they’d be talking how he drove the field to get into position. Diggs did help him getting there but it’s a two way street.
@@mgpray2 of the 3 losses to KC in the playoffs is not because of josh, not even remotely close, its because stupid coaching and terrible defense... think i saw someone posted something like last 4 playoff losses for the bills the defense has given up like 130+ points in those 4 losses, what buffalo ask allen to do is simply unfair. Not to mention he covers up alot of the teams flaws with his play, so alot of concern dont really get adresseses,,,, IF i owned the Bills, Von is gone, Diggs gets traded for some picks, (maybe trade up for a Rome Odunze), see what we can afford in FA, some older vets out there in Henry, Evans, Adams, and some defensive help.... BUt main things Diggs and Coach gtg
Look at all the injuries the Bills defense had. Also look at how Josh performed against the Chief’s defense.
Stop you would nor be making this excuse for Lamar Jackson who was carrying teams an this is his first year he had decent wr but he got all the blame when his team didn't show up in the playoffs.
I think Lamar has been on a team since he started with no great receivers, but he has always had a top ten defense, running game, and superior coaching to Allen. I hope Lamar wins because if he doesn’t everything people are dumping on Josh will be dumped on Lamar.
Hands down the best sports talk show! I am loving these four and each of them bring different personalities & perspectives on topics. I see the progression Shady has made from his first year in the show. James Jones fit right in so smoothly with this cast. Acho brings analytical opinions. Joy brings that realness and keeping it 100.
Nope! First take
Def the best show and def better than first take.
4:54 Sept 19, 2021 36-35 Lamar won that. Respect that PLZ
False, the last time the Ravens and chiefs played, the Ravens won
We’re 3-1 against him and it was 1 point. Allen is more of a threat that Lamar is and joe more a threat than Lamar is
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Josh Allen is everything they accused lamar jackson of being. Josh is a rb first qb second.
Lamar wish he had Josh passing numbers. Josh Allen clears Lamar in every stat except rushing cause he isnt the run first QB
@@queboogaveliJosh Allen didn't throw past 20 yards. The bills lost because they have a Rb at qb
Thank you.
@@ChrisCash720Josh can sling it. As you saw last night, he didn’t because the Chiefs defense is amazing
@@queboogaveli No he doesn't. When will you casuals understand passing yardage means nothing if you don't have quality wins to back them up. Ask Hebert. Ask Carson Palmer. Ask Phillip Rivers.
Josh Allen puts the bills on his back every year and they always let him down.
I'm a Chiefs fan and I think Josh Allen is a great QB. What makes him a great QB in my mind? If, for some reason, Mahomes retired tomorrow I would LOVE to have Josh Allen as our QB. Now, I know I'm a nobody in the football world, but I can see his talent just like all of you do.
This game will always gonna come down to moments
Mahomes showed up Allen didn’t WHEN IT MATTERED
Even if they made that field goal Mahomes still had over a minute and only needs 13 seconds anyways
Bills punted twice. You know how annoying it must be to have to grind so hard for a TD, and then KC responds back with a TD in 2 minutes. Chiefs completely like 50% of their 1st downs. You can’t expect Allen to play perfect, and he didn’t, but he took care of the ball and didn’t hand it over. People talk about him missing that last pass for the TD but fail to mention Chris Jones amazing pressure which resulted in Allen being put off balance
Josh and Dak are the same. Choke in the moment 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Burrow has too
Allen choke lmao are stupid
Some have a clutch gene and some fold under pressure it’s quite simple. Pat almost always gets better in big moments even that Super Bowl loss the average person who has never played football knows how much he did and certainly did not choke.
Allen
Dak
Lamar
Hurts
Burrow
Herbert
Lawrence
All seem to be missing clutch genetics!
Na... Josh actually performs... dude ran for 2 tds and passed for another and they lost by 3 to the best team of the era.
Thats Fake news good sir. Josh Allen actually wins playoff games. He just has the misfortune of going through Mahomes like Payton did against Brady.
12:26 I'm sorry but y'all are high if you truly believe Josh Allen is better than Lamar Jackson (at this point). Not saying that Josh isn't great because he is. However, Lamar continues to evolve his game in obvious ways.
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It is a team sport. Stop using team results to judge individual players. Quarterbacks are important but they don’t play defense or special teams. We label Brady as the goat when in reality his defense won him 4 of his 7 super bowls. This needs to change.
Acho is blaming Josh for not beating Mahomes’ team at their worst, meanwhile Buffalo’s 5 best players on defense were either hurt for the majority of the year or coming off of major injuries, and his weapons have been mediocre. Obviously you can blame the Bills as a whole but trying to take down Allen individually when he was the best player on the field next to Mahomes.
Also Burrow was bailed by his defense on his Super Bowl run, he was not why they won and I’m tired of that narrative. He’s good but he’s not even on the Allen/Lamar tier
Look at wishy washy Acho flip flopping 😂. Like Nick Wright always says “Josh Allen and Bills are 4 times media defending champions” Never seen a team and player get so much hype and end up being mid. They dare even said Josh Allen was the MVP 😂
I mean he is the real mvp and showed it yet again yesterday outplaying mahomes yet again but his defense is dogshit and diggs countnt catch a 65 yard dot.
@@theone7778How did he outplay Mahommes? He thew 39 times and only had 186 yards 😆
It might be "wishy washy" but they have points. Everyone crowns Josh Allen at the beginning of the season every single year. He wasn't bad in these playoffs, just made a few bad throws that ended up being the difference. But that's how it's been with the Bills, either they're bad and they get the breaks beat off them or they comes up JUST short in the playoffs.
@@theone7778outplaying bruh plz spare the world 🥴🥴🥴 Allen was very good bt again decision making is always called into question let’s say he scores the td you really think pat wasn’t going to score a tub especially with the no lb having bills 😂😂😂
@@theone7778 he was supposed to take diggs on that underneath route get the first down and keep the clock ticking
Joe burrow who gets carried by his defense all the way to the super bowl and gets praised for it lol
Salty Bills fan lol. At least he beat Mahomes in a playoff game
@@TYreLL0416 I'm not salty. It's the truth is it not?
@@kaza_family5950It isn’t. Unlike your guy Josh Allen…
@@TYreLL0416 huh? Please go look up the stats. Allen's defense collapses in the playoffs. Do you watch the game Or just spew nonsense?
Philip Rivers was dubbed a elite qb. There were questions on whether Flacco was top 10 the year after winning the sb. Matt didn’t even make a sb yet. Just funny how the narratives change for certain players.
The pat on the Back for the losers this week in beyond comical truly 😂😂
Nobody that actually watched the game could blame Josh for the loss. He's the only reason his team has a shot year after year. He has a defensive-minded HC, rookie OC, one receiver worth naming (that dropped a TD last night). They finally got a decent run game that doesn't rely 90% on Josh running it himself halfway through the season. Idc what anyone says, winning is not a QB stat, it's a team stat. If you swap Allen and Mahomes' teams, Allen would have all of the accolades. They need to get a reliable WR2 this off season (shoulda had DHop this season).
I agree wholeheartedly!
His defense gave up 7 points in the 4th and josh was nowhere to be found in the second half. Josh had an amazing first half but second half was average
@Johenz Most teams score fewer points in the second half, especially when the opposing DC is good at his job. Buffalo just didn't have the personnel to contend with KC's offense last night. They were running 4th string linebackers. One of them got signed from the couch two weeks ago, and he had to put on the play helmet because everyone else was so injured. The score could have easily been 27-41 with the two dropped TD passes and FG the Bills had. They got out played. That doesn't mean Josh isn't a great player like they're saying in the video.
@@geek921And all you have stated is why Allen is to blame for the loss. What is he doing throwing bombs down field? You don’t want to score quickly you want to score last. Less than two minutes left wide open Diggs near the sticks and he throws it in the end zone. People acting like if they get that TD they win when the Bills have stopped Mahomes once from scoring and the Defense is decimated.
Going one further he threw the ball behind the line of scrimmage like 16 out of his 26 passes. He wasn’t balling out outside of runs as the Chiefs couldn’t stop the run.
"He's the only reason his team has a shot year after year..." Diggs is the reason why Allen has elevated to the great coversation. The Bills defense ranked #1, #2, and #4 these last three seasons. Cook averaged 4.7 yards per carry. "They finally got a decent run game..." Last season, the Bills runningbacks averaged 4.87 yards per carry, that was second to the Ravens runningbacks.
Receivers dropping balls..., how about all the times receivers are wide open for a short gain but Allen can't resist going for the long low percentage deep balls? What did Brady say right to Allen's face, "you could throw into tight coverage, or you can throw to someone who's a little more open for less yards".
Once Lamar beat Mahomes I don’t want to hear no gibberish 😂😂and what’s so crazy Allen stat line last game looked just like Lamar’s but he get praised for losing😭😭
Everytime Acho talks I realize anybody can have an opinion
I was fine with this argument until Acho casually stated Brady got one during the "Mahomes Era". Correction, Brady got two during this great Mahomes era. He is the only QB with multiple playoffs wins against Mahomes. Fun fact, Mahomes only has one blowout playoff loss. Can you guess who the opposing QB was? If you guessed Tom Brady, you would be correct. Matter of fact, the first three years of this "Mahomes era" went like this....Lost to Brady in AFC championship, won SB 54, got blown out by Brady in SB 55. If anything, it is Mahomes who managed to get one during the Brady era.
Ultimate Burrow glazing
Facts. Never agreed with Acho but he was spitting because Burrow was not the reason they went to the Superbowl. The media wants to say that but that defense with Hubbard, Hendrickson, Bates, Wilson, Pratt, and Suzie took them there. All Burrow did was throw 50/50 balls to Chase and Higgins
Yes the opinion should change BECAUSE IF HE WON they would try to elevate him as a QB and in the current rankings. Allen played great but he's protected for achieving little to nothing its so annoying
Shady said real points. Big red been doing this for years. In Philly he was in that conference title multiple times and a superbowl, but also not egotistical that he didn’t adapt offensive to how the game changed. Also was assistant on GB staff winning a ship. Perfect example of not adapting as a HC, the hoodie for his offense when Brady left, and so egotistical having DC’s be OC’s. Also Spags as the DC, he been there twice as DC on NYG, then these with KC. They experienced in the staff, adding the best QB. Allen can’t get killed. Also a lot of that wasn’t on him. Dropped big plays from others, D didn’t step up and make the play when crunch. Kicker missing. O line giving pressure. And coaches not ready for moment. I seen in the 4th, KC wasn’t up yet and made a 1st down the D looked defeated in body language. He can’t do it all. Pat can’t but that team is great coached and always believes that moments big it’s still “we winning” just do your job and play hard even if down
This is a testament to the fact that judging a player just isn’t as cut and dry as we try to portray it. Most people don’t think Goff is “like that” because he simply have had continued success. Lamar is not looked at as the better QB, yet he literally carried his team every year and only hasn’t won due to injury. People want to love Josh so much that they disregard his bad decisions during games. He managed to not have a turnover in the game against the chiefs, yet he also misfired a clutch throw. But he’s better than Lamar, why? Patty and Reid definitely in a room by themselves right now, if anything they’ve proven that you can make it this far with just Mahomes, but their regular season suggested getting rid of receivers two years in a row would be an issue. But as long as you can win your division or make it to the playoffs, you have a chance.
Lamar has beaten Patrick Mahomes. Did he not beat them at home? Y'all are tripping and goal post movers. Lamar has broken All kind of records, Unanimous MVP and maybe getting another one MVP this year, has the second highest winning percentage, behind Mahomes, and yet y'all think every other QB is better than him, and you constantly drag him and his reputation through the mud. This show is a joke . Lamar Jackson is the best QB that came out of that draft class and y'all don't show him any respect. I hope that he keeps proving all of y'all wrong. The man is doing historic stuff and when he wins , you spend 10 seconds talking about him, but a whole segment on Josh Allen , when he loses. Justin Herbert and Josh Allen are great, even though they're not playing at the level of Lamar🤔 He has to win a Superbowl before he's considered as having " that " what a joke
Lamar said he would give up his league MVP for. Superbowl any day
I hope u doin okay
1 time in the regular season wow😂😂😂
why does acho keep saying this is the worst the chiefs are gonna get why can’t the bills also end up improving ?
These excuses for Josh is crazy if any other QB with a minute and 10 seconds left 3 timeouts remaining failed to they would be killing him
The glazing over Josh Allen is crazy
The Bills are the Cowboys of the AFC LOL
The Bills made a conference finals. The Cowboys haven't reach a conference championship this century.
And ANY cowboys fan will trade Dak for Allen and if you say no you are a clown
No the dolphins are
As a Cowboys fan they are not. Josh Allen rises to the occasion every time. He hasn’t gotten the bigger wins , but he balls out.
imagine saying josh allen better than lamar when josh allen have always had weapons , and we see whats happened to the bills when they got rid of the oc lol straight downhill. Not to mention lamar jackson had greg roman and even shady said greg roman isnt a oc for the passing game. Now lamar have weapons and a new oc how could u possibly say josh allen is better than lamar? Lamar was doing more with less better than mahomes and josh allen, Mahomes literally looks normal now since tyreek is gone and he got the caliber of wr lamar had previous to this season.
Josh’s weapons and OC let him down, Lamar finally has an OC and weapons and is having success and people act like Lamar is suddenly better
@ dereklasker5350 Lamar been better.. in college and the pros dude.. you and these media mfs don’t wanna admit it but it’s okay. 2x first team all pro 2 x mvp Josh had zero. I’ll argue if Lamar had Andy Reid we’d be talking about him same way they speak about mahomes mind you lamar led the league in tds throwing to dudes who aren’t even in the nfl. Josh is not more talented or better lol you shade joy needa cut it out
Josh has always had what weapons? Lol outside of Diggs, nobody has been consistent and even he seems to disappear in the big games.
@@ATR_cardsandbreaks and now Diggs is disappearing too
@@ATR_cardsandbreaksLmaoo isn’t James cook a pro bowler ?
Great intro!!! 🔥💪🏾
Joy hit the nail on the head because Allen is so good. People want him to have more accolades behind his name when all he has is winning season every year, one of the division 4 years in a row took a franchise that had it been to the playoffs in 17 years with the work of the head coach and turn the program into a team that always is in the Post season. Josh allen's career numbers through his first six years are stellar other than the Turn overs
It changes the way we have to look at the Bills as a team. If Buffalo had constructed a supporting cast like how Baltimore did for Lamar we would be having a different discussion
It's the 1st year Lamar actually got receivers. Josh has had offensive playmakers since he's been there. What's his new excuse
That is cap
The bills were down to signing players from off of the couch on defense. No shade on KC. They won, but don't act like the Bills didn't enter the season with a great team. They just couldn't stay healthy.
@@lopaka526bill’s defense was the reason Allen even had a chance 😂 Allen almost fumbled the game away had his lineman not saved em, nor could he make a simple check down to get close fg range. NOT CLUTCH😂
Allen has a good supporting cast, The Bills should've kept running the ball with Cook and Johnson idk why they stopped in the 4th quarter for this season it seems the bills play better when they actually try to limit Allen, even his throws were mostly behind or close to the LOS
Love josh Allen but I was waiting for them to mention the two downs on the final drive where he missed open receivers twice. He will get another chance next year. Great game bills
Dawkins got pushed into him as he was throwing that pass to Shakir. It happens.
@@mattep3395 he was hit and couldnt step into the throw.... i swear some ppl dont actually watch games
I’m getting real tired of them saying Josh Allen is better than Lamar.
None of these people want to talk about the fact that the Chiefs win against the fins. And the bills who were destimated by injuries on defense
Josh Allen isn't a QB, he should switch to WR. His ceiling is only so high, outstanding athlete, but I don't think he can play QB. Defense will catch up to Allen. Allen shouldn't wait until Year 7 to switch to WR like the OSU Terrell Pryor. All Jackson criticism aside, I like Allen, he reminds of Big Ben, maybe a little faster, arm strength not as good, but has leadership qualities. I think if Allen goes to Minnesota or the Ram, he wins a championship. I don't think he wins in Buffalo in terms of a SB.
tight end
tight end or a gadget player like Taysom Hill
@TheInterestedObserver I can recall Dan Orlosky or whatever saying he would rather take Hill or Jackson I think two years ago. I'm like what? Taysom is a gimmick who gives you a few plays here and there.
@@hababacon it's because they've never actually seen anything like Lamar. He doesn't run how they expect him to run and he does not throw how they expect him to run. Ever seen a guy flick his wrist and the ball travel 60 yards. He is absolutely unique and they cannot quantify or handle him. He ran a pro-style offence in college but that was completely ignored by all the pundits.
I think all we are seeing different his year is playcalling and him finishing the regular season. Ravens fans know he's been like this pretty much from the start.
Dude just made history being the first QB to have 40 plus total TD's in 4 consecutive seasons. He will be just fine.
With Joy pushing a close second. Josh Allen is not great. He has lead the NFL in turn over each of his years in the NFL
Disinforrmation. Fake news. Allen has never led the league in turnovers in any of his 6 seasons. The facts are literally the opposite of what you claimed. Very ignorant claim my friend. I don't mean to be harsh, but making a statement like that when data is so readily available on the internet makes you look really bad.
What Allen has done is led the league in Touch Downs and Yards. Josh has also set the NFL record for most Touchdowns in NFL history through his first 5 and first 6 seasons. What Josh has done is be one of the very few players in NFL history to score 50 touchdowns in a season (including playoffs) in multiple seasons and has done so twice in just his 6th year.
That's what makes Josh Allen great. Fact-check me wrong if you think you can.
@@RageDaug Ok. I'll take you at your word. But over the course of Josh's 6 years , that is within that six year span, who are the qbs that have thrown more interceptions, IN TOTAL, than Josh Allen?
No, i think you need to check Josh Allen stats, he has never thrown for 50 TD in any of his 5 or 6 season. In 2021 he had 36 regular season TD and 9 in the post season 36+9=45 In 2023 he was tied with Dak with 15 Ints. @@RageDaug
@@williejohnson5172 Manning, Marino, Elway, Farve, Brees, and Brady all had more interceptions through their first 6 full seasons. ...well, technically Allen is tied with Brady at 78. But considering Brady is considered the GOAT, being tied with him isn't bad. The others are all time greats. Manning is also said by some to be the GOAT and he has over 100 interceptions in his first 6 seasons. Makes Josh look down-right cautious in comparion.
@@greggorythomas6144 I didn't say Josh threw 50 touchdowns. I said he scored 50 TDs. 2023 is one of the years Josh scored 50+ TDs. No one else was particularly close this year. Maybe a couple will get closer in the next couple games.
Great point about what he said about comparing Allen with Rivers.
The way the media coddles Josh Allen is gross
Mahomes worst season >>> JAllen's best season. He's literally dude's father 💀😩😂😂😂
Mahomes and Allen's stats every season are nearly identical
Yes. Y’all in the media need to stop trying to put J A above of mahomes
He’s not in his league sorry not sorry 😅
😂😭Shady so pissed….I’m crying at his facial expressions.
They should call this the gold post show…. Moving it left and right all year long. 😊
FINALLY!!! I’ve been sayin this all year😂 Lamar is gonna change the narrative on the best QB’s inna league! Lamar has now entered the top 3 QB convo and He’s right behind Patty
I have significantly more issues with Buffalo Bill's head coach than with Josh Allen. The Bills could have won this if they had not been so aggressive at the end. This is a problem I often see in football. I understand the desire to be aggressive in football but often times it's better to just get the first down than attempting some sort of knock out punch. I would have liked to have seen Mahomes sit on the bench looking hopeless a bit longer.
LOVE THIS SHOW!!!! BALLIN!!!!😎
In the past 4 years:
Bills 189 punts / 174 TD for Allen
Chiefs 204 Punts / 151 TD for Mahomes
So Allen has produced 23 more TD than Mahomes and had 15 less punts.
The most valuable play in football is a touchdown.
All turnovers are not equal to points
Punts are still a change of possession.
Allen has produced 21 More Turnovers more than Mahomes, but produced 23 more TD and 15 less punts.
Josh Allen has accounted for 77% of Team TD, 81% of offensive TD
Pat Mahomes has accounted for 70% of team TD, 74% of offensive TD
The Bills have been the highest scoring offense in the NFL
The Chiefs have been the 3rd highest scoring offense in the NFL
The Bills have been the second most Winning team in the NFL
The Chiefs are the most winning team in the NFL
Josh Allen over the past 4 seasons:
2020 4,977 yards / 45TD
2021 5,180 Yards / 42TD
2022 5,045 yards / 42TD
2023 4,830 Yards / 44TD
No other player in NFL history has had 4 consecutive years of 40TD and this kind of production.
So Josh Allen has averaged 5000 Total yards and 43TD a season and doesn't have any MVP to show for it
Playoff stats: Averaging 328 yards a game with 26TD / 4INT and a passer rating of 100 in 10 games.
Allen was #1 in Fantasy football (production) in 2020, 2021,2023. In 2022, He was 2nd.
This past seasons, Allen accounted for 86% of his teams total scores. Next closest was 68%. Lamar was 52%.
Total TD - 1st
Total Yards - 1st
QBR - 3rd (even with TO factored in)....still 5% higher than Lamar.
That alone should have sealed an MVP for him.
Not enough? More stats for Allen:
Passing TD - 5th
Rushing TD - 1st (NFL record)
Passing yards - 4th
QB rushing - 4th
Success rate - 51.4% (2nd)
EPA/Play- .23 (2nd)
Total EPA - 136.1 (2nd)
Pass EPA - 86.6 (4th)
Rushing EPA - 49.5 (1st)
Sack % - 4% (1st)
Fantasty football (production) #1
Closes out the season with 5 straight wins, and steals the division and 2 seed. All with half of the defense being injured and having a new offensive coordinator.
And let's not pretend like having Andy Reid isn't a huge advantage over having Sean McDermott on the offensive side of the ball.
Josh Allen is just Phillip Rivers
He’s Dan Marino and Brett Favre combined
Patrick Mahomes is him!
Josh is fantastic but no Sbs or MVPs
I don’t wanna hear anymore from Bills Fans about their QB & team being better than mine.
We own you.
Shady’s a clown 🤡
Two rings were gifted to him
He didn’t even play
Andy Reid has been to 11 NFC/AFC championships give Big Red credit - Shady did more in the NFL than you have ever done
Umm what??
did you play tho.... but you parade around acting like you did something for those rings lol what a clown ... KC fans becoming worse then dallas fans
But people were trashing Lamarr Jackson every time he lost,but praise Josh Allen in his lost.
Don’t worry he’ll get trashed next week