Ninetales have you ever thought of maybe putting som effort in having bigger tires in the back to shoot out of any corner fast Smallest tires in the front and huge ones in the back on low grip tires
Socialus his theory i imagine is the strait is the best passing zone Im a handling guy myself but the strait is easy to pass at For ninetails they should add huge turbos that remove your face from your head when there is windshield
I've been watching Alex for almost 5 years now and I'm so glad his views are going back to how they used to be before youtube tried to kill his career, he makes such enjoyable content for a weird goofy niche of people dude absolutely deserves the best.
My Oldsmobile had 900hp and was on vintage race tyres and still RWD so was a bit of a handful to say the least. It was quick at the first and last tracks though
They made the muscle car physics terrible in this game. For instance the charger daytona was a fast as hell car with amazing handling. But in this game it is just trash.
@@Sak-zo1ui I wouldn't describe the Charger Daytona as having "amazing handling", it was built to go around in a circle very fast (which it did). Also, it's actually pretty decent in-game
Ninetales is just a very skilled driver, I'd say he/she is one of the best drivers of the regulars in general. But to be fair, I've never seen Ninetales comment on a video or something like that like the other drivers do sometimes
that flip u had at 21:22 I fell there was a bit of dirty play there or was that just me thinking that had to replay it a few times to be sure but he seems to turn into u at just the right moment there.
Alex, my grandmother had an E49 Valiant (Chrysler) Charger when she was a young hotty. STOCK it came with a triple carb 265ci inline 6 Hemi good for 211km/h. It was the fastest accelerating car in the world in its day......and had drum brakes.....yeah. Love that frikken car.
The "Chrysler Valiant" as its called here is basically the Australian Market version of the Dodge Charger - We didn't get Dodge, only Chrysler, and this chassis was pretty much the only option for those who were truly dedicated to old-school, hemi-V8-powered, 'Mopar Muscle'. ~JD
@@36thgallardo nah it's a set vehicle restrictions in the game for certain cars. Unfortunately it's very heavily biased to muscle vehicles and doesn't contain JDM icons like the Silvias or any of the FF Hondas except from the Mugen CRX ;-;
The points system is setup such that the team sizes really don't matter. I'll for a moment ignore the 50 points bonus for 1st place. Players on the smaller team can score more points each, but this is perfectly offset by the fact, that they are fewer cars. The bigger team has more cars that can score points, but they will score fewer points each. If you calculate the expectancy values for both teams they will be exactly the same - no matter how different the team sizes. Even if you had 12 cars against 0, both teams would get 0 points. This probably is why this points system was chosen - it handles drops gracefully. If any team had an advantage, it would be the bigger team, because they have slightly better chances of grabbing the 50 points bonus for 1st.
can you do an Australian car team adventure in A class? (ignore forza and use ford falcons and Chrysler valiants as well as holdens), another idea is s1/s2 class FWD cars because that would be mad
No one: Not a soul: Ninetails: "I'll have a Kenmari Skyline, please!" Cashier: "How much power?" Ninetails: "Yes" This why we appreciate a gaming legend!
Front wheel drive cars with many many horsepowers would be a cool idea. I could work two ways: Smash a a turbo V6 or something of the likes under the hood of a front engined car. This would likely make it near impossible to turn and decelerate at the same time because of mass amounts of lift-throttle oversteer. Or, as some others have suggested, a mid or rear engined car with a race differential set to send all the power to the front wheels. This would produce some huge understeer, as there is very little of the cars weight over the front wheels.
Depends on how insane you are thinking. A-class FF with 400-450 horsepower is very doable and fairly controllable, to many people's surprise, though does take a competent driver to keep it controlled. But if we are talking closer to what Ninetails's Skyline had in this video, then that is another matter entirely.
@@fredthegreat6139 Okay, yeah, that is a bit much, heh. I mean, even I could struggle to make any kind of time with a car like that, and I drive FF builds almost exclusively.
@@Puffalupagus360 You can see the sparks where he hits it though, and it does affect the attitude of the car. It simply interacted with his car differently (likely depending on _how_ he hit it)
anyone else notice the scoring was screwed. when red cars where in front they had 650 and 600 when blue was in front it was only 550 and 500 and down the back red would always be on 200 in 9th will blue in 7 and 8 had 100 each
My R32 was very fast in the corners, especially on dirt, anddd..that was pretty much it, fell flat on it's face on the straights..focused a bit too much on handling.
Gotta love brain farts while watching videos. I was wondering why he was calling the 3000gt a gto. Then I remembered the imported ones were gto's.. lol
Again, why do you race the same 9 or ten tracks over and over and over and over again? I get that they might be the "best" but it would be nice to not see the same races all the time, plus it gives you a bit of an unfair advantage in that you know what tracks to build your car to. Theres gotta be like a random option or something???
@@ishshah8695 to understand what you are saying, are there vehicle limitations for the tuner or muscle category.. or a specific list somewhere?! the evos, subarus, etc, are tuner specific, so if the old nissans are chosen i did not think there would be other limitations (except maybe for class and PI level)
@@roberts.wilson1848 It's a vehicle category in game that has a limited vehicle list. It's heavily biased to Muscle unfortunately and doesn't include the new supra, FF Hondas except the CRX Mugen, any of the Nissan S cars except the 240, no Subarus, etc.
Should be glad you're not have the race me I've been told I'm extremely hard to pass also I've been that I use people up way too much I'm just not afraid to use the Chrome horn
Most people: Carefully build good cars that do decent everywhere.
Ninetales: *I GO VERY FAST IN A STRAIGHT LINE!!*
Ninetales is Clarkson!! POWWWEEERRR!!
wdym its nose never pointed in a straight line (just to be clear i do understand the joke)
Ninetales have you ever thought of maybe putting som effort in having bigger tires in the back to shoot out of any corner fast
Smallest tires in the front and huge ones in the back on low grip tires
Socialus his theory i imagine is the strait is the best passing zone
Im a handling guy myself but the strait is easy to pass at
For ninetails they should add huge turbos that remove your face from your head when there is windshield
So, Ninetales, how much power do you want? *yes*
...and how much control? no
Grip? What that? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
One minute in.
"Ninetales has 1000hp and skinny tyres"
Of course he does. Ninetales knows no other way.
Ninetales is a she I believe. Also yes, power is the answer for ninetales
Ninetails not only brings power, but also doesn’t make the mistakes that normally come with said power.
This is the way
The only way
@@Plums72 This is the way
I've been watching Alex for almost 5 years now and I'm so glad his views are going back to how they used to be before youtube tried to kill his career, he makes such enjoyable content for a weird goofy niche of people dude absolutely deserves the best.
i think ninetails secretly wanted to be in the muscle class....
I believe so
The weirder the cars can be, the better Ninetales does
Ninetales uses the Jeremy Clarkson approach when he's building a car.
MORE POWER.
POWERRRRR
SPEEED AND POWEEEER
Did Ninetales go to the Jeremy Clarkson school of Automotive Engineering?
JDMDrift SPEED AND POWERRRR
My Oldsmobile had 900hp and was on vintage race tyres and still RWD so was a bit of a handful to say the least. It was quick at the first and last tracks though
You built the same car the same way as me :D
They made the muscle car physics terrible in this game. For instance the charger daytona was a fast as hell car with amazing handling. But in this game it is just trash.
@@Sak-zo1ui I wouldn't describe the Charger Daytona as having "amazing handling", it was built to go around in a circle very fast (which it did). Also, it's actually pretty decent in-game
When I saw ninetales on the leaderboard I knew he was going to have the most hp. Love his way of driving.
seafood special: mussels v tuna
Dammit, as if I wasn't hungry before...
i've laughed way harder than i should have
that moment when a Muscle car is comparitively agile.... Gotta love Ninetales' zany builds
Is Timidninetails some kind of advanced AI?
It seems they could come in the top 3 most of the time with a packet of crisps.
Ninetales is just a very skilled driver, I'd say he/she is one of the best drivers of the regulars in general. But to be fair, I've never seen Ninetales comment on a video or something like that like the other drivers do sometimes
Ninetales is the stig. So elusive
Laddosaurus-REX I mean, “Where’s Ninetales” is a classic game on this channel. The saying goes if they’re not winning they’ve wandered off.
Erik Blomgren Ninetails is the Stig
That Skyline has so much horsepower it looks like its lagging
I love how casually he says the skyline has about a thousand horse power, that's not real.
It would be a tame race without Ninetales shenanigans, again with the angry Tiger instead of an engine.
Forza: How much power?
Ninetales: Yes
that flip u had at 21:22 I fell there was a bit of dirty play there or was that just me thinking that had to replay it a few times to be sure but he seems to turn into u at just the right moment there.
I also saw that
But the lamppost was the best planed of sneakiest techniques ever😂
I'd love for you to try one of these running the same tune an ninetails.
I discovered u idk like 4 days ago and damn bro i love your content keep it up fam🖤
Alex, my grandmother had an E49 Valiant (Chrysler) Charger when she was a young hotty. STOCK it came with a triple carb 265ci inline 6 Hemi good for 211km/h. It was the fastest accelerating car in the world in its day......and had drum brakes.....yeah. Love that frikken car.
Drum at the rear and disc up front...
I had the fake Lime Green Plymouth Superbird, it was good handling and had decent power. Was good fun this week!
*What he says:* Muscle vs Tuner, *What I hear:* Muscle vs Tuna
shoutout to Clark Duffy referencing the best modern Pontiac package: GTP!
The "Chrysler Valiant" as its called here is basically the Australian Market version of the Dodge Charger - We didn't get Dodge, only Chrysler, and this chassis was pretty much the only option for those who were truly dedicated to old-school, hemi-V8-powered, 'Mopar Muscle'.
~JD
I'm still watching the ads before the video and this looks like something straight out of 2 fast 2 furious.
Can't believe nobody used a Civic. It's the definition of tuner car.
Its not in the Muscle Vs Tuner category in the game
I was litreally saying to myself I would use a civic lmao
The only "Civic" that's in the Muscle Vs Tuner category is the Civic CRX Mugen, which is a banned vehicle in FR racing lobbies
@@ishshah8695 Ah forgive me I've never played FH4, I assumed this was an open race where everyone previously agreed to pick either muscle or tuners
@@36thgallardo nah it's a set vehicle restrictions in the game for certain cars. Unfortunately it's very heavily biased to muscle vehicles and doesn't contain JDM icons like the Silvias or any of the FF Hondas except from the Mugen CRX ;-;
Can you do a head to head hunt with two hunted, rest hunters, whichever hunted survives longer wins, with +5 min added for every blown prii?
Once again a great video love it, hope we get too see some king of the hill, sth and hts soon.
The points system is setup such that the team sizes really don't matter.
I'll for a moment ignore the 50 points bonus for 1st place. Players on the smaller team can score more points each, but this is perfectly offset by the fact, that they are fewer cars. The bigger team has more cars that can score points, but they will score fewer points each. If you calculate the expectancy values for both teams they will be exactly the same - no matter how different the team sizes. Even if you had 12 cars against 0, both teams would get 0 points. This probably is why this points system was chosen - it handles drops gracefully.
If any team had an advantage, it would be the bigger team, because they have slightly better chances of grabbing the 50 points bonus for 1st.
can you do an Australian car team adventure in A class? (ignore forza and use ford falcons and Chrysler valiants as well as holdens), another idea is s1/s2 class FWD cars because that would be mad
Our first family car was a valiant, great car! My sister blew up the engine and left it in the desert, nobody told her that cars need oil. Good times
No one:
Not a soul:
Ninetails: "I'll have a Kenmari Skyline, please!"
Cashier: "How much power?"
Ninetails: "Yes"
This why we appreciate a gaming legend!
love the videos brother keep it up
Does muscle VS tuner race, most powerful car in the field is a tuner. I love it
Pretty sure the Skyline is swapped.... so muscle still wins 👀
@@tripleshits i tink it whas a roterengine in the skyline you could hear the sound
A valiant effort one could say.
love the videos man, always entertained by them :)
I am truly astonished by -Ninetales car- how Forza was able to sort the teams, making it an actual Muscle vs Tuner team battle!
Do you have any extra spots in FRM?
GOD DAMN my old is going insane those stripes.....
Another one of these please, really enjoyed!
I’m definitely a muscle guy!
Hey looks like Will It Roll is back! 😂
Well I don't believe I have ever seen a car role quite like yours did on Forza
Can't help but see Lakehurst Corpse Circuit.
This is so incredibly frustrating to watch when you crash and get taken out of the race
Front wheel drive cars with many many horsepowers would be a cool idea. I could work two ways:
Smash a a turbo V6 or something of the likes under the hood of a front engined car. This would likely make it near impossible to turn and decelerate at the same time because of mass amounts of lift-throttle oversteer.
Or, as some others have suggested, a mid or rear engined car with a race differential set to send all the power to the front wheels. This would produce some huge understeer, as there is very little of the cars weight over the front wheels.
Depends on how insane you are thinking. A-class FF with 400-450 horsepower is very doable and fairly controllable, to many people's surprise, though does take a competent driver to keep it controlled. But if we are talking closer to what Ninetails's Skyline had in this video, then that is another matter entirely.
@@konekoray9323 I was thinking that a turbocharged Nissan V6 would do the job. I’m pretty sure that you can get almost 1000 hp out of one of those.
@@fredthegreat6139 Okay, yeah, that is a bit much, heh. I mean, even I could struggle to make any kind of time with a car like that, and I drive FF builds almost exclusively.
V click=happy couple christmas ☆
Are these the only tracks available for team adventures? It's always the same ones.
I looked and cant find one single US muscle vs UK muscle competition...could you plz see to it ?
17:44 the car didn't hit the lamp post and when he looks back it is still standing. that was operator error.
It did hit the post you can see it lying on the ground to the left. He just bounces off the top of it
The pole you are talking about was already laying on the ground when he ran it over, and the car in front of him ran it over as well to no avail.
@@Puffalupagus360 You can see the sparks where he hits it though, and it does affect the attitude of the car. It simply interacted with his car differently (likely depending on _how_ he hit it)
The failrace moment occurs at 21:20
anyone else notice the scoring was screwed. when red cars where in front they had 650 and 600 when blue was in front it was only 550 and 500 and down the back red would always be on 200 in 9th will blue in 7 and 8 had 100 each
Scoring is based on how many car on the other team you are beating.
My R32 was very fast in the corners, especially on dirt, anddd..that was pretty much it, fell flat on it's face on the straights..focused a bit too much on handling.
17:40 I've watched it several times and i can't see any street furniture interfering with your car. The lamp post is innocent!
You can, it's lying across the track on the left side. He hits the very end of the post pushing him wide
Does this game use slipstreaming?
I have such, SUCH, a good A class tune for the Evo 6, Skyline R34 GTR, and the Supra.
Edit: And the 3000GT VR4
Why is Ninetails always in the other team?
Ninetales is the master of the rediculous power machines
So y always the orange and black stripes. I get it if it’s the logo colors of the channel, just wondering tho
He has his patron supporters on it as well, patron is orange too
His colors have always been orange and black
TBH a tuna car sounds like a sushi cocktail
Managed to miss both chicane checkpoints on the 1st lap both times :D
Love these types of videos I think I would of used an evo as a tuner car and have 4wd so it would be great in the dirt
It's Muscle vs Import
How does one even join some of these races?
HE TELLS YOU AT THE END OF THE VIDEO!
Chrysler Valiant is the Aussie charger bro .
Hello. I do not own xbox but I wanted to ask if I can play forza horizon 4 on my pc.
Yes you can! And you can also join your buddies who own Xbox in their convoys. It has cross-platform play
Pretty sure that PurplePetrol guy flipped you on purpose at around the 21:00 mark
Looked like a slight twitch tbh, could also have been lag
@@SpoonRacing20 looks like he was useing a keyboard, judging by the way the wheels twitched.
I think you guys are right. Went back and watched it. He's definitely using a keyboard
Considering that Ninetales Skyline most likely had a Chevy V8 in it, it isn't really a tuner car.
It is a tuner
When your so early it’s 360 p
so true
Wouldn't you be afraid if your in a skyline with 4 muscle cars chasing you?
More Eliminator that was sooo fun
Should have left the 6 pack in the E49 Valiant. Would have been much faster and much better handling.
gg all
21:10 Lol, this guy managed to screw up whole team result in one corner.
i stan ninetails
Ok but ninetails shoulda been on the muscle side if they wanted to have a straightline speed car
wish i could have the valiant in real life, love ausie muscle
My R33 was pants.
Your R33 was the only 'real' racers choice. The R33 is top dog of its brethren IRL. Respect to you for representing true petrolheads!
Gotta love brain farts while watching videos. I was wondering why he was calling the 3000gt a gto. Then I remembered the imported ones were gto's.. lol
And Stealths in the Canadian market, probably carried more names as well
What is this sorcery ?
WEEKLY STH!!!!!!!!!!!
No way that '73 Nissan is beating any of those Muscle Cars in real life!
I agree with you
It can't turn with all that hp
Yes, totally agreed
Even thought i really like tuners, no fuckin way it would beat them 😂
you dont say DATSUN its a DOTSUN
In the prestart list, the Blue team, had 5 players, and the red 6, but when the first race was run, it was opposite. What the hell Forza?
I'm so sad I dc'ed at the start
LS swaped valiant charger
Why don't you try once make race with Full-Sim damage???
And must drive in cocpit camera
It would be fun :)
Attempt #21
Again, why do you race the same 9 or ten tracks over and over and over and over again? I get that they might be the "best" but it would be nice to not see the same races all the time, plus it gives you a bit of an unfair advantage in that you know what tracks to build your car to. Theres gotta be like a random option or something???
There aren't that many tracks in the game, period
@@longbowxmkii Fair enough. Just kinda bored of seeing the same tracks over and over again but it sounds like it is what it is. Merry Christmas
make a song called warp speed wiggle
Just play Jason Derulo's _Wiggle_ Feat. Snoop Dogg, but at like 300% speed.
tuner wins? c:
The Charger was a shit car, handled like a bucket of water, Thats what you bought if you couldnt afford a Monaro or a GTHO
#GTA5WAR
So are you going to comment on the crappy looking new game with Vin Diesel? 🤔
3th
Them 3 people are always last r they poor divers or just have slow cars
no supra, no nsx, no wrx, no evos?!
NSX wasn't chosen or the Evo 6 (only Evo in Muscle Vs Tuners) and there are no Subaru's or Supras in MvT either
@@ishshah8695 to understand what you are saying, are there vehicle limitations for the tuner or muscle category.. or a specific list somewhere?! the evos, subarus, etc, are tuner specific, so if the old nissans are chosen i did not think there would be other limitations (except maybe for class and PI level)
@@roberts.wilson1848 It's a vehicle category in game that has a limited vehicle list. It's heavily biased to Muscle unfortunately and doesn't include the new supra, FF Hondas except the CRX Mugen, any of the Nissan S cars except the 240, no Subarus, etc.
im with you, should be an Rx7 alongside the R33 and an Evo 6 or 7, Civic type R and any old scooby
Should be glad you're not have the race me I've been told I'm extremely hard to pass also I've been that I use people up way too much I'm just not afraid to use the Chrome horn
rematch
Honestly, your car just wasn't good enough.