Teaching art or teaching to think like an artist? | Cindy Foley | TEDxColumbus

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  • What is the purpose and value of Art education in the 21st Century? Foley makes the case the Art’s critical value is to develop learners that think like Artists which means learners who are creative, curious, that seek questions, develop ideas, and play. For that to happen society will need to stop the pervasive, problematic and cliché messaging that implies that creativity is somehow defined as artistic skill. This shift in perception will give educators the courage to teach for creativity, by focusing on three critical habits that artist employ, 1. Comfort with Ambiguity, 2. Idea Generation, and 3. Transdisciplinary Research. This change can make way for Center’s for Creativity in our schools and museums where ideas are king and curiosity reigns.
    Cindy Meyers Foley is the Executive Assistant Director and Director of Learning and Experience at the Columbus Museum of Art. Foley worked to reimagine the CMA as a 21st century institution that is transformative, active, and participatory. An institution that impacts the health and growth of the community by cultivating, celebrating and championing creativity. Foley envisioned and led the charge to open the 18,000 sq. ft. Center for Creativity in 2011. In 2013, the museum received the National Medal for Museums in recognition of this work. Foley guest edited and wrote chapters for Intentionality and the Twenty-First-Century Museum, for the summer 2014 Journal of Museum Education.
    In 2012, Foley received the Greater Columbus Arts Council Community Arts Partnership award for Arts Educator. She was a keynote speaker for the OAEA (Ohio Art Education Association) 2012 Conference. She is on the Faculty of Harvard University’s Future of Learning Summer Institute.
    Foley is a graduate of the University of Kentucky and The Ohio State University. Prior to joining the Museum, she was with the Institute of Contemporary Art at the Maine College of Art, the Portland Museum of Art, and the Wexner Center for the Arts.
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  • @crow2616
    @crow2616 7 ปีที่แล้ว +415

    The art curriculum at most schools bothers me. You have a bunch of kids working on extremely similar projects with little freedom. The best Art class I ever had was at my middle school watercolour class which was an optional class. The teacher gave us a very general theme like "abstract" and we could do anything with that theme. It gave us a chance to develop ourselves as artists and develop our own styles as well.

    • @cris_ad
      @cris_ad 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      In my high school I did 3 years of art, and then the 4th year I was supposed to come up with my own theme and ideas and do 8 to 10 pieces based on that. I got a lot of freedom to explore different media and styles. It was awesome.

    • @Johntvancejr
      @Johntvancejr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I think a balance between the two is a good thing. At a younger age it's important to setup some loose boundaries to work within to aid in teaching techniques, the elements/principals, art history, etc.
      I have my students work on similar projects but give them almost unlimited freedom. We may all be painting toucans, but I never say no to my students ideas. I may try to encourage them to follow ideas that I believe will work better for them in the long run or let them know when I think an idea may not work out, but at the end of the day I will never tell them "No. You can't do that."
      Once they finish an assignment though, they have 100% free create time and can make whatever they want with just about any supply I have.

    • @edithhenson6917
      @edithhenson6917 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Students need to learn the elements of art & the principles of design. Art is a learning experience & in the end, no , not anything goes. Think about it like this: for things to have quality, there must be some level of difficulty in order to grow and improve ones artwork. If not, there’s no respect for the work. Too many people think you can just put anything together & call it art. Serious artists should & would be offended by this notion. You can’t get on the piano & just bang at the keys any old way. The same is true for art. What would give artwork any credibility, if it’s not learned & practiced.

    • @westrain2
      @westrain2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Edith Henson why

    • @gregoryblack8109
      @gregoryblack8109 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @Alex S. all of the great artists throughout history have learned the basics before they made their masterpieces. Picasso, van gogh, monet, Michelangelo, for example all studied the basics for years. You learn them as a spring board to do whatever you want. Learning the basics wont kill creativity, not learning them most certainly will.

  • @solrossi_illustration
    @solrossi_illustration 9 ปีที่แล้ว +245

    "Art education as a way to cope with the unpredictability of life".
    Brilliant concept! Thanks so much Cindy.

    • @Goffix2009
      @Goffix2009 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Meanwhile, a banana taped to a gallery wall in NYC sold for $160,000. Go figure!

    • @DG-mv6zw
      @DG-mv6zw 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      In what way does it help us cope, exactly? (And I mean, exactly)

    • @fremont111
      @fremont111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@DG-mv6zw self expression (the arts) is a way to make sense of the world, works as catharsis for whatever you are dealing with, makes a comment on society (for example, art during the pandemic). when you write about your feelings you are generally going to gain some kind of clarity, make connections, work through whatever it is you are going through. same with applying paint to a canvas or writing a song.

  • @jackielaine7010
    @jackielaine7010 8 ปีที่แล้ว +356

    I love how she got emotional at the end. This speech was passionately heart-felt and such an important message,

    • @christineyan6008
      @christineyan6008 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      The picture n. 59 17of peter randal explain pleas

    • @christineyan6008
      @christineyan6008 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Op art peter randall pages pictur n 59 17

    • @catheadoff
      @catheadoff 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree, Jackie!

    • @undercoverhamster2549
      @undercoverhamster2549 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, I really related to that as when I talk about something from the heart, I feel the emotion overwhelms me and I want to get the message out without crying!

  • @DeaLenihan
    @DeaLenihan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    I'm crying. This is the best thing. Don't kill the ideas and don't kill the light in the eyes of our children. xo

  • @LaEscuelaDelEncanto
    @LaEscuelaDelEncanto 9 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    I graduated from art school many years ago and the experience resembles what your talk is about. Since then, I have progressively narrowed my focus on what has been coined as classical realism. Despite my appetite for technical virtuosity with traditional drawing and painting methods, I still utilize my early art lessons. I research, I ask questions, I employ critical thinking, my creative thinking exercises are not limited by discipline or medium and, I manifest ideas. The manifesting of ideas is not the end but rather the means to an end. I think it should be stressed that "Curiosity & Conceptualization" is GROUND WORK. Every project that goes through this ground work should be in support of a singular larger goal if you are to become a "Master Builder".

  • @michellegoulet2438
    @michellegoulet2438 9 ปีที่แล้ว +138

    We really do research EVERYTHING

  • @kevinmurphy2562
    @kevinmurphy2562 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    A great lecture. I spent all of my Art teaching career arguing that Art is the most important subject on school curriculum and that creativity is the highest form of intelligence.

  • @mdenn441
    @mdenn441 8 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    4:30 I hear those same statements all the time. I have students who come into class on day one and tell me "I can't draw, I'm not creative". It's those messages they have heard throughout their life that have fostered that belief.

    • @jjayneartworkx
      @jjayneartworkx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Programming...

    • @stephaniesherman1022
      @stephaniesherman1022 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you!

    • @musicobsessed3478
      @musicobsessed3478 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      especially the stick figure one! I hear that any time I tell someone i’m an artist

    • @seanclay1122
      @seanclay1122 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I started telling my students and adults saying "I can't..."... Not with that attitude.

  • @jessicad.8648
    @jessicad.8648 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This spoke so deeply to me. My whole life art was my outlet, more then anything else ever. the safest presents to buy me AT ANY AGE was always art supplies. but because i couldnt replicate the works of the masters my family refused to support me. My art teachers did, I had a piece of my classwork entered into a exhibit in 6th grade which i have kept even to this day but my parents stopped letting me take art classes from then on. it wasnt until my senior year of high school that i ever took another real art class, and in that one i also had a piece entered into an exhibit. i never got to see either, my parents wouldnt let me go. it wasnt until the last 4 years i really took to my art again because i didnt believe i could. now im applying to have photographs of mine entered into a local exhibit and getting everything ready to teach art classes for my community. to this day my family still dont think im an artist, but at least now (with the help of this video) i own who i am.

    • @constanceweinberger3078
      @constanceweinberger3078 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am proud that you keep going in spite of your challenges. I met a gifted artist from the Philippines who also had no support from family. She is my favorite artist to see year after year and I appreciate her art even more because it is born from advesity and her tenacity and willingness to never give up creating even if no one supports it. We are living in a day where artists can really make a great living if they treat it like a serious business. Best to your future efforts; wishing you all the support you need in accomplishing your dreams.

  • @jonstudebaker1911
    @jonstudebaker1911 8 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    AMEN! I've told my students this is the difference between an artist who becomes an art teacher vs. someone who picks up art teaching along the way. I LIVE art and I teach art from the artists point of view putting creativity and allowed work time paramount.

    • @tzswei
      @tzswei 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      then I'm lucky to learn artist's point of view as first batch of honor degree painting and drawing. I'm really tired to see a lot of conceptual than paint and meticulous skill. nothing wrong with conceptual skill, it's pretty down to point practice what you preach as 'art philosophy' to define what replace lines.

    • @stephaniesherman1022
      @stephaniesherman1022 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I taught Visual Arts for 10 years at a middle school and "became" an Art teacher after living as an Artist for 33 years. I always made things and then became a teacher later. What are getting at? Where is the difference between this and that...the things you mention? Does a teacher not pick up things along the way?

  • @Gjous679
    @Gjous679 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    This method of teaching art aligns with Teaching for Artistic Behavior or TAB. I see this growing more each year and’s I finally jumped on the bandwagon after seeing a TAB Elementary art room in person and I realized it could be done. I hope more art teachers see this video.

  • @alessandrobarella1513
    @alessandrobarella1513 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is the best Ted Talk I have ever heard.
    A constant reminder that I should express my artistry & teach/guide others to become authentic, creative artists.

  • @CharlottaSophia
    @CharlottaSophia 5 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Great talk... Nurturing creativity and innovative thinking is so important! I love how Cindy articulated it. It builds individuality and as she says, new ideas... I teach art in London, and luckily I do it privately and have the freedom to do so without limiting the creative process of the little artists, but encouraging them to bring out their own ideas. Thank you for this talk, Cindy, it’s inspiring. 👏🏽♥️

  • @boip0362
    @boip0362 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What is the difference between “ambiguity” and “confusion?” I was confused by your question - and I’m glad I caught on. I’m glad I wasn’t the only one! And using words to communicate effectively - clearly - “less intellectually” - is what kids need. It is image based. I am a children’s author and once, after I had told one of my stories, a seven year old student came up to me and said, “I wrote a book!” I was totally impressed and asked what his story was about and he told me I asked him further (I also illustrate my books), “So did you draw pictures to go along with your book?” He said, “No. The words make the pictures.” It would do us an immense amount of good if we could learn from what he said. Ambiguity often comes when our words don’t make pictures, but cause confusion.

  • @lesleylandlubber
    @lesleylandlubber 8 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    I needed to hear that speech 45 years ago, omg so nailed it!!! This should resonate with every true artist. Thank you

    • @jessicad.8648
      @jessicad.8648 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i agree, i wish my art teacher had told me in 6th grade. i know Mrs. tucker believed in me but i dont remember her ever telling me i could do it.

    • @fullsunoo
      @fullsunoo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      what a coincidence

  • @1Ma9iN8tive
    @1Ma9iN8tive 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Picasso visited one of caves with ancient stone aged art on the walls - when he exited the cave he famously exclaimed "we have learned nothing".
    This TED talk hits the potential answers to the issues of creativity facing global western acculturused countries employing standardised models of measured progression.

  • @Linda-9037
    @Linda-9037 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Teaching students various techniques, proceedures, skills, applications in all the various mediums IS EMPOWERING THEM...If they know how to paint a rock that looks real. They can choose to make that rock float in mid air in their next painting...and everyone will be amazed at their creativity...instead of saying "what is it" Give them the skills and proceedures and then encourage creative application.

  • @AnnaArs09
    @AnnaArs09 9 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    A great video, that confirms many researches concerning creativity. It is weird and perplexing, that some still believe creativity means being able to draw well=realistically, since a lot of research was made concerning the word "creativity" which means "thinking differently, finding new solutions to problems". There is no connection to drawing abilities.
    13:24 - "integration" of one subject into another. Using one subject to describe another, so it would be understandable and more rich to children.

  • @TheLily97232
    @TheLily97232 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Now I understand my profound discomfort with my ability to produce art from project to project. It takes time, it takes lots of knowledge, curiosity and time. Otherwise you are a factory.

  • @Katiethewizard
    @Katiethewizard ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm a first year art teacher and I always come back to this ted talk. The enthusiasm I see in one of my kids' eyes when I tell them to keep pursuing something, that the experimentation they are doing is good is honestly the best part of the job. Seeing them get so excited about their own ideas and innovations is something I can't get enough of

  • @BK-wj2ei
    @BK-wj2ei 9 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Thank you! Thank you! I totally agree! as an artist/teacher this is such a detrimental reality! Art is not just a canvas and some paint. "Creativity is the Potential for Ideas from Within" as Foley stated. We could learn so much more if we allowed ourselves to pick up a brush and paint "anything!" I teach summer art lessons in my back yard, and I always tell me students that there is no right or wrong in art - that it all comes from within and the courage to try.

  • @TaylorMade511
    @TaylorMade511 9 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Artists never get any credit and yet everybody is using it; Art.

    • @mx8958
      @mx8958 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You don't do what you love to get credit

  • @mr.ramjangles5165
    @mr.ramjangles5165 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I use a lot of art integration when teaching core subjects. I find that adding art to your classroom is like adding saffron to a dish…it makes it BETTER! 🎨👍🏻

  • @adamsterrett5217
    @adamsterrett5217 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've always told my students, that in order to be successful in my class, they must be successful in all of their other classes. And that all of the information learned in their Core classes is needed to really be good in creating art. I completely agree with this Talk. Great Job!

  • @KellieChasse
    @KellieChasse 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    So fabulous thank you!!! I am an online instructor and my favorite four letter word is PLAY!

  • @bparham79
    @bparham79 6 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I love this video so much! I'm a teaching artist in Portland, OR, who specializes in teaching kids to play, perform, and compose their own music on the guitar. I found so much inspiration and wisdom in this Ted Talk. Thank you for sharing, and I can't wait to begin implementing these powerful ideas in my after-school guitar program, the Rock Dojo.

  • @stellarWorksArt
    @stellarWorksArt 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    She is absolutely awesome! Love the messages and the movement of protecting ideas from rigid, cliche thinking and allowing one to accept ambiguity as integral part of the process.

  • @alysfreeman11
    @alysfreeman11 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I had lecturers kill my ideas, they were bad at thinking here in the UK but in Rotterdam was the complete opposite....but as an independent artist I am a voracious researcher...everything interests me and I have to read it, study it, think it, follow where it takes me....and the ideas happen...

  • @victoriavts22
    @victoriavts22 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you for being an advocate for the mind and thought. Brought me to tears!

  • @Theimpromptulife
    @Theimpromptulife 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Good observation on her part, that some may have forgot this or they did not know why it is so important. There are artist who can do photo realism because of formal training but have forgotten the need for risk and creativity (ideas), so is it really art? I think that has always been an issue in art that people have talked about. Tools (all tools mental and physical) and the creative idea process should never be parted.

    • @demenntedDolphinn
      @demenntedDolphinn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      but i feel like that creates an unecessary divide in the art world. that's basically saying that artistic pieces need to have a certain level of creativity or originiality to count as "real" art. it probably wouldn't feel very good if someone told you "that drawing looks nice, but it's not creative enough, so it's not really art." i think the beauty of art is that a photo realistic portrait is just as artistic as an abstract painting of shapes and colors. i do agree that we all need to remember to take creative risks and explore new ideas though.

  • @pablogaracenas
    @pablogaracenas 9 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    ¡ Perfect, I'll use this with my university students (sound, music and engineering ), You are absolutely right, ART education is essential in sensitive people
    ¡¡Thank you Cindy Foley!!

  • @Sundayjean
    @Sundayjean ปีที่แล้ว

    You answered so many of my personal questions on “how to create art”. And helped me see my own process on how I create programs.

  • @noyan333
    @noyan333 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I feel you , truly .. and thank you for this beautiful and meaningful talk.

  • @camiladevidelacruz5502
    @camiladevidelacruz5502 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just watched thid video and it inspires me so much. I am an art studies student, I often question this field but I know I love it and this talk helped and inspired me more. Art education is really important in today's society. We all need to think like an artist.

  • @powderkenway9771
    @powderkenway9771 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Now THIS is what I call an art speech. :)

  • @RainbowSprnklz
    @RainbowSprnklz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this is a great ted talk, i was looking up why people make art (really probably trying to get why people find it expressive) and i found so many wonderful answers here about artists minds yknow!

  • @potentwhisper7983
    @potentwhisper7983 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    A fascinating, thought provoking and inspiring talk. Thank you Cindy! Respect.

  • @jennyhall3537
    @jennyhall3537 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As an abstract artist this is right. Abstract can’t be taught. Art elements, colour,perspective etc. can be taught but the student needs to be encouraged to express their ideas in their own way. Sometimes it’s just how they feel at the time. Our work can be our idea and not liked by others but it does provoke conversation. Teachers let your students create without a rigid structure. Analyse and understand their work and provide encouraging feedback to every single one no matter how different they are.

  • @goldcutter22
    @goldcutter22 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The panic that precedes creativity is was a perfect description of what I feel at certain moments while beginning any project. There is no set “vision” of what I want to achieve, I find myself only desiring that it be some perfect rendition of some nebulous idea. The creativity comes about when I can let go of the concept of perfect rendition, and focus on what is in my brain, moment to moment. It is free association of thoughts, playing with shapes and colors, putting the unexpected or unusual into the mix somehow. This is how I try to keep experimenting, to not fall into a routine, to learn something new from each piece. Thank you for your words of encouragement.

  • @susanclare134
    @susanclare134 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brilliant points raised... being comfortable with ambiguity!!!! As an artist of 20 years standing, I still have to push myself to be more original and move beyond the comfort zone, every day. Thanks for this great explanation of the idea generating process and its importance across all disciplines!

  • @abdullahnasher7975
    @abdullahnasher7975 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The hardest thing to do as an artist is deferentially seeing with a new fresh eyes the same work you have just finished.
    Abdullah Nasher
    3d artist & Freethinker

  • @carolyn6689
    @carolyn6689 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    so agree with you...I am a self taught artist and I am saddened by the robotic teaching style that they call art studies..My son is a 11th grader and I am so happy that he has a love for art.He loves to draw in pencil, military characters and some anime style ones.I would love to see him grow his skills more in other techniques.just like all other school subjects taught,It seems like Art is thrown in the mix,haphazardly ...Its importance is not realized.I know for a fact,that proper involvement in art means total freedom of choice to create whatever your heart and mind desires,it builds your character and humbles you especially.Art education is important ,even more so today.

  • @rozitatoo
    @rozitatoo 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for your spin on how artists think and proceed through their creative process. I can't help but approach any project the same way your husband does...with seemingly insane research and obsession. Now I know that this is not a defect of my character but my artistic mind.

  • @peterjones6715
    @peterjones6715 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    hello . self creative people , realize , what can`t be taught .
    but schools of thought , depend on , each others support .

    • @cogrdint6740
      @cogrdint6740 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      hello . self, creative, people , realize , what, can`t, be, taught .
      but, schools, of, thought , depend, on , each, others, support . , , , , , , , , , , , , , , ,, , , , , 👏😊🎩👏😊🎩👏😊🎩👏😊🎩👏😊🎩👏😊🎩👏😊🎩👏😊🎩👏😊🎩👏😊🎩👏😊🎩👏😊🎩👏😊🎩👏😊🎩👏😊🎩👏😊🎩

  • @thenightlightshow9327
    @thenightlightshow9327 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    this lovely women really inspire us here , thanks a lot

  • @BeckersSchoolSupplies
    @BeckersSchoolSupplies 7 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    STEAM - putting the art in STEM!

    • @EvilNeonETC
      @EvilNeonETC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Full steam ahead :]

  • @Mariposa77755
    @Mariposa77755 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of the best TED talks I have seen! :) Thanks Foley

  • @ingridcoke1360
    @ingridcoke1360 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Cindy. Well said.

  • @acaciarogersart
    @acaciarogersart 8 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    While I agree that supporting and praising creativity and ideas is a great thing and should be done more, I really have a problem with her anti- realism statements. All facets of art should be learned and understood for a truly full and useful art education or to become a great well- known artist. There is absolutely nothing wrong with praising a student for having good understanding of detail or anatomy of something and will further their skill. Actually it really would make sense to alter the way you teach, praise, and inspire each student depending on what their strengths are so they can truly excel in their chosen style or sector of art. However I do believe, in any case, every art student should be taught art history, and about the old masters, and what made them great. Their stories are some of the deepest and most meaningful inspiration.

    • @edithhenson6917
      @edithhenson6917 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Acacia Rogers Art I agree very much with Acacia Rogers! I’m a veteran art teacher now retired.

    • @Seatowngrrl
      @Seatowngrrl 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      i just found this article so this response is super late, but i think the message was that when that realism is all that is valued at the expense of creativity then that is where the problem lies.

    • @tropix17mum
      @tropix17mum 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Seatowngrrl agreed

    • @tropix17mum
      @tropix17mum 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      You missed her point.

    • @ASmith-jn7kf
      @ASmith-jn7kf 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      How many artists and writers have been shunned by their own generation yet are praised in ours??lol. Do you actually think deeply about such things at all? Getting the praise of a mindless generation doesn't mean that you are not a good artists or that your work has no value.

  • @anniepification
    @anniepification 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I actually clapped at the end with the audience - from my sofa! Thank you Cindy Foley for such an inspiring talk. I am a musician trying to be brave and explore different media and come up with great ideas :-) Musicians are not taught about ambiguity, or, for that matter, much about ideas...I've noticed my artist friends are far, far more comfortable with these things.
    I now feel far happier about all the strange research and thinking I am doing!
    (PS I have played at the Old Operating Theatre in London that you pictured!)

    • @jessicad.8648
      @jessicad.8648 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      i hope since you watched this video you feel more comfortable Annie!

    • @salt5999
      @salt5999 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I know I am very late to this comment, but I'll still put this down here, even though it's probably worth nothing.
      As another musician, it's very odd to me that Annie said that musicians aren't taught much about ideas... If you ever enter into just about any lesson anywhere or formal program, one of the first things you should be introduced to, along with basic things like scales, intervals and the musical alphabet, is phrasing and how to develop your *musical ideas* fully using various compositional techniques and eventually after you understand previous techniques, how to break those "rules."
      For example, if you were learning how to play an instrument or how to compose, and you wanted to know how to express the idea or emotion of sadness, you will be introduced to minor keys and different modes and then different ways to structure a composition, to best get the idea of sadness across.

  • @frank4245
    @frank4245 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Creativity is about generating ideas!

  • @gaz2276
    @gaz2276 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Music to my ears. Beautifully presented ideas. Got me thinking all kinds of cool stuff. 😁😁😁

  • @ivankrecker9210
    @ivankrecker9210 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very important topic! Thank you!

  • @nataliestocks2923
    @nataliestocks2923 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome ! As an art educator, and creativity advocate, your message is EXACTLY what I've been promoting for the last 20 years. Thank you!

  • @victoriavts22
    @victoriavts22 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you!! This is so wonderful. Thank you!!!

  • @sepanodebulan5789
    @sepanodebulan5789 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    lovely...great speech..give me understand how bad we need the real arts in life.thank you

  • @laiamarcos
    @laiamarcos 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m lucky enough to be in a University where they teach us how to think like artists and develop our ideas, embracing ambiguity and create meaningful stuff, rather than copying what others have done. But we do have art history and philosophy classes, to help us understand what others created before us and its perception in its contemporary society.

  • @annadesilva6752
    @annadesilva6752 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am with you Cindy! I love that you care so much you almost cried at the end. 🤗

  • @omygod9062
    @omygod9062 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It’s because education is based on box ticking. Even at degree level in art. It saves time and provides statistics on outcome. I once had to judge a children’s Harry Potter art competition. The most beautiful pictures were produced by the age 5-8 group. By age 16 it had all been knocked out of them.

  • @GabrielaIrigoyenArteLivros
    @GabrielaIrigoyenArteLivros ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this wonderful and inspiring talk!

  • @drorjackob1
    @drorjackob1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That was so inspiring!! I can wait to bring these ideas into my classoom!!

  • @emilyscholfield9736
    @emilyscholfield9736 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent and completely relevant to the way arts education needs to, and hopefully is changing.

  • @catheadoff
    @catheadoff 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "Artists (...) realize that ambiguity is part of the process" >>>EXACTLY

  • @parimaraki4459
    @parimaraki4459 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Simply Brilliant!

  • @gracejeffers9055
    @gracejeffers9055 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done! To me she is describing Steiner Education but her talk is a great bridge to where we need to go.

  • @DH-mf2qt
    @DH-mf2qt 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    wow, I remember being very young and doing exactly that. I did not understand at the time why I aw things so differently than I was "supposed" to. Particularly with matching assignments at this elementary level.

  • @climateteacherjohnj7763
    @climateteacherjohnj7763 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    In her three steps for teaching creativity, she just described science and cutting edge research.

  • @DeenieAnn
    @DeenieAnn 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    loved the 'love' in sharing a dear spirit

  • @antitsa
    @antitsa 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Creativity is really thinking outside the box. Politically and socially America does not want people who think outside the box, especially as illustrated by changes in the country during the past several years. Therein lies the dilemma. Those who think outside the box in America are perceived as a threat. We applaud the financially successful results of their experimentation but are fully prepared to shun them if the results are not profitable. America is a victim of its narrow creativity. I applaud this Tedx in principle but recognize that in practice America is not fertile ground or open for creativity. We just think we are.

  • @sujanithtottempudi2991
    @sujanithtottempudi2991 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's thought provoking, thank you

  • @gabrielfranciscorichardson9557
    @gabrielfranciscorichardson9557 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Don't kill the ideas! I love this!!!

  • @Rovemcmanus1312
    @Rovemcmanus1312 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This ws Incredibley eye opening. Bravo

  • @arthistoryonscreen8775
    @arthistoryonscreen8775 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The teaching of Art should encourage questions and open minded creativity. Our future generations need it, and Art curriculums are really suffering nowadays as a result of our need for answers. Even scientists need and benefit from creativity.

  • @abbyjohnson4820
    @abbyjohnson4820 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Quintessential knowledge here. Have shown this Talk to many pre-service art educators!

  • @stevethomas211
    @stevethomas211 ปีที่แล้ว

    I do Art and I create my own Imaginary world in cartooning of everyday life with a touch of humor of what I see or hear.
    Sir Ken Robinson, I loved his speech on Creativity.

  • @christinearnold-green8540
    @christinearnold-green8540 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bravo! As someone here earlier said: " STEAM - putting the art in STEM.

  • @nicollespeaking6513
    @nicollespeaking6513 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Spot on and truly inspiring!

  • @lucyho2
    @lucyho2 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This is so powerful! A license to explore! Thank you for fantastic insight.

    • @elsagrace3893
      @elsagrace3893 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      noleforlife@gmai could you please take a little more time to express what you mean. Like maybe say when I heard her say XYZ I felt insert emotion. Saying it's powerful tells me nothing except that you like to label things with with personal metaphorical adjectives:

    • @JoojieXD
      @JoojieXD 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Uh. They probably meant that the thesis and general speech is powerful.

    • @danielstewart1309
      @danielstewart1309 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@elsagrace3893
      U
      U

  • @joanstanford1655
    @joanstanford1655 7 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Sorry she got these critical comments about her mouth as the message is very important and her points presented very well. Bravo.

    • @FerneyManrique
      @FerneyManrique 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I noticed her voice, but that does not bother me, I actually like it a lot, I could listen to her for hours, nothing to do with her voice, it's what she says what is important.

    • @itsaUSBline
      @itsaUSBline 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Has nothing to do with her voice, it's the microphone. Sound guy wasn't doing his job, and the sound of wet smacking lips in my headphones makes me feel nauseous. Nothing personal against her or her message.

  • @SilverPennyArtisans
    @SilverPennyArtisans 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing!!!! We need so much more of this!!!

  • @waveydaveyspoonerbooner205
    @waveydaveyspoonerbooner205 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brilliant points, when my Art dept is being dismantled by the pod managers types in chasing targets and KPI's and they look at you blankly when you explain the imporantce of teaching in this way, it can be easy to dispare. . i'll keep going

  • @eligho8767
    @eligho8767 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very good. I would hope that we might add is 'testing' those creative developments. Not a test for the art student but a test against the substance of the 'creative.'

  • @froufroudeluxe
    @froufroudeluxe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I love her lisp, it gives her voice so much character

    • @khomaristyles
      @khomaristyles 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Froufrou Deluxe this🤧

  • @brendarudzinskimusic
    @brendarudzinskimusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bravo....Let's re-ignite our children's comfort with ambiguity, idea generation and transdisciplinary research.

  • @Audiofreund2
    @Audiofreund2 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    very good point. this even partly continues in art school. you show some work, for example watercolour paintings. then the teacher tells you to look at marlene dumas work to basically copy it partly.

  • @tmetigers6662
    @tmetigers6662 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love this...but I am a choice based art educator....excellent talk!

  • @dilrajkaur3281
    @dilrajkaur3281 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well said , art is to feel free , motivate ,dream with reality , experience and experiment. I love your child imagination ,if she said art it means she had seen some piece of art like that

  • @plasticturnipboy5642
    @plasticturnipboy5642 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That is amazing and I loved every minute of it!
    This is a very important message that can only be understood by people if they see the pitfalls of a lack of creativity and a lack of a freedom to generate ideas no matter what they are. In any field, in computer science, office work, law. Generating ideas means evolving and if we're not evolving we're standing still.

  • @francoisehelenepoetry5462
    @francoisehelenepoetry5462 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    THis is such an important video for everyone to see!

  • @sleepychamaeleon
    @sleepychamaeleon 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Interesting and thought provoking talk.
    I'm not sure why creativity needs to be 'measured' though. Encouraged and valued, certainly.

    • @nikosorf4250
      @nikosorf4250 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Probably cause about 80% of people can't value something if it's not measured ...that's why schools have grades

    • @lucindaphillippi3646
      @lucindaphillippi3646 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Creativity is NOT LINEAR - please no info-grams and rubrics to over-analyze and destroy the fragility and strength of creative thinking!

  • @iasminrios2377
    @iasminrios2377 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    awesome speech!! made me think so much

  • @Journey_Around
    @Journey_Around 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think a practical solution to her stated problem would be to start teaching more design or “strategy” classes in school. Designing for a specific class or client forces you to be creative in a strategic way of thinking in order to obtain a goal.
    I think that what she is a proponent for is for encouraging expression and exploration. I think these can be tied to creativity but they’d tend to be less productive. I would be really interested in knowing how she thinks an art classroom should be led practically.
    And as others have said, there’s nothing wrong with teaching skills in art class. Some forms of art, especially in the renaissance were all about creating beautiful works of art that required amazing skill-and not much of a need for the ability to embrace ambiguity. In recent years, art has moved to more of expression, rather than creating beautiful things though, so she’s most likely more so embracing the new trends in art.
    Regardless, this talk is very good to bring up challenges and to get you thinking and talking about what art classes should look like.

  • @zahedbinrahim6285
    @zahedbinrahim6285 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    great.......fabulous........amazing........wonderful!

  • @miracorbova6230
    @miracorbova6230 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant! Thank you so much for sharing. :)

  • @pitoufinos
    @pitoufinos ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much!

  • @muvs32pap
    @muvs32pap 8 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    My opinion. The humanities is what should should teach the "us" to be idealistic and creative in thought, ever searching. Art class should introduce and teach our young to be able to use various media with a competence that will allow, or disallow it to be consumed by others (in whatever measure) The best preparation will only ever allow one to be prepared...someone said something like that in he past. When I go to the Maryland institute of art to see what the young are creating/learning I am ashamed for the faculty. Mostly poorly constructed and ill conceived works derived from whatever school the instructor most admired. Our art schools are providing the next gen. of teachers not artist. Art is adrift in modernity...and I have a good idea why.

    • @timcarrier6682
      @timcarrier6682 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      i agree. Paraphrasing Harold Speed, there are two ways to teach art: 1. to strictly teach the process; or 2. to allow a student to teach themselves. Both have the advantage of allowing fulfillment. To teach the process you help a person to have the tools to visually communicate in a more successful visual voice; to allow the student to have the strength and confidence of HOW to speak. To allow the student to teach themselves, they are filled with creativity or ideas that need to be explored they have the WHAT to speak but do not have the voice to clearly communicate these concepts; the idea becomes a blur or mumbled. The best way to get that student to be the best success means combining the two methods. Have a student learn how to visually speak and allow their thoughts to experiment with their visual speech.

    • @muvs32pap
      @muvs32pap 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Agreed, a well written response....and +REP for your Harold Speed ref. Even if his manner is aged/time biased he/his writings are still to be cherished throughout time.,

  • @petic4302
    @petic4302 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Beautiful!!!!!

  • @dawnnorris646
    @dawnnorris646 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have been examining my own art teaching practices and I would like to move to this more creative approach to teaching. Thanks for this great presentation!

    • @KellieDeterman
      @KellieDeterman 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dawn Norris If TAB isn't familiar to you here are a couple of resources to investigate.
      teachingforartisticbehavior.org/
      facebook.com/groups/136900489846140/

  • @kenhenry55
    @kenhenry55 8 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Such a great idea. Would education be way more stimulating with this approach?

    • @cientz5419
      @cientz5419 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It definitely would

  • @Sundayjean
    @Sundayjean ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this! If you write a book I will read it.