I installed this on my 2018 Ridgeline six months ago and it really smoothed out the engine. No codes and no difference in the gas milage. Best $120.00 I ever spent. Drives and runs smooth as butter.
I bought a used ‘17 Ridgeline about 2 years ago and one of the first things I noticed was how the truck vibrated, made weird noises and the tac would bounce around quite a bit. My family thought I was crazy, but after doing some research learned about the VCM. I HATED it. I’ve had this product on my truck for over a year now and have loved it. No issues and all of those “problems” have gone away. Best $100 I’ve spent on the truck.
Still going strong? I purchased a 2017 ridgeline two months ago and i have the rpm fluctuations. Im going to change the trans fluid (4 drop method) and filter tomorrow and have one of these svcm on the way. I LOVE this truck with the exception of the rpm fluctuations, theyre awful!
@@midroad-2443Happy new year, yeah your ridgeline needs a drain and fill ×3 ( ×2 is ok) of Dw1 or flavor of atf fluid. Then atf every 30k or yearly ( just do transfer + diff at the same time too) do not overfill atf, measure it hot and look for line in the middle of cold and hot line of the trans dipstick. VCM has been good in the J35Y6 engine with Direct injection, there is less opportunity for oil consumption and DI burns even and cooler than than Port injecton which was the problem with the Odyssey and accords . However, VCM doesn't play well with the Honda 6 speed auto which is why I recommend to disable. The TCU is programed to go out of Torque converter lock up and slip the clutch to matching rpm for smooth 6 to 3 cycle switch with the active motor mounts to handle the 3 banger vibrations. Then there is the Dw1 formula that is heavy in Zinc or ZDDP, as an all in one antiwear additive. It's fine as far as chemistry which is closer to manual atf with 10× less Zinc used for creating Triboflims on the clutch material as a wear layer that will rebuild as long as there is enough addtive package. Now think about slipping a clutch in a manual you aren't doing it often or at all but in this case everytime VCM needs to initiate the clutch will be feathered while going in and out of Torque converter lock up which will pretty much slowly glaze the clutch material resulting in the 'RPM flutter' and 'Torque converter Judder'. Then as the fluid has deteriorated and no longer provides adequate pressure due to the slipping RPM needs to increase to compensate to disengage TQ lock up, feather clutch, VCM engage the fluctuations cycle repeats. (The Judder is TQ clutch in and out) To maintain VCM relies on oil pressure for activition which is connected to the RPM but when there is a slip RPM need to rise to compensate, then falls once pressure us reached; more slippage and RPM rises and falls again ( the flutter). It seems only the people driving the J35Y6 engine gently have more of the RPM flutter
UPDATE: S-VCM module has been installed for well over 5000 miles now.. No decrease in fuel economy at all.. 65mph and not towing or hauling anything yields 28mpg... Super happy with purchase...
@@kgill5 if the engine is a J35Y6 (and I think it is) it should work perfectly. I now have 27,000 miles on it and it easily gets 29mpg not towing. It gets 20-21mpg when towing a 1500 pound bass boat.
I installed this on a 2024 Ridgeline and it works great. Before the install the tach bounced around a lot, transmission searching for gears, the cruise control was a nightmare with how long it took to adjust speed on hills or when lane changing from behind a slower vehicle. After the install the vehicle is so much smoother, trans stays in the same gear on most hills, the cruise control is instant now when adjusting speed, a lot more power. On my Ridgeline the temp gauge is in bars. 4 bars is normal operating temp. When I installed the S-VCM the temp gauge only went to 3 bars but once the idle stop cycled the engine or I cycled it by stopping and restarting it the gauge went to 4 bars, leading me to thing the product had stopped working. I reached out to Randy and he got tech support involved. They had me check the actual temp with a scan tool at the local parts store. When the engine cycled after being warm it went from 163 degrees to 165 for a couple of seconds and then back down to 163, so the product was working fine. I'm thinking the breaking point from 3 bars to 4 is 165 degrees on my Ridgeline. I wanted to share all of this in case anyone else runs into the same thing and thinks they have a defective part. It's working fine. Btw, I can't see any reduction in fuel economy.
Installed about a week ago in my 2012 Pilot EX-L. Easy as pie. No error codes and no more ECO light. Super smooth shifting and a full six cylinders of power!
NOTE: some ECO lights will still show on some models, however the VCM has been disabled. The ECO light on the older versions (before the ECON button) reflect your driving. When your light on the gas pedal the ECO light illuminates. In the newer models the ECO light is the green hue around the instrument cluster. The ECON button in the newer Hondas, LOWERS A/C output, deadens the gas pedal, and extends the transmission gear shifting to save fuel. Thanks for watching.
@@AlpineWarreni have it in my ‘23 Ridgeline. Eco mode still does everything else, just disables the VCM. My AC doesn’t blow as hard, my gas pedal is less responsive and my gears shift more economically when I push the button, so I ride around like that most of the time.
Question on overheating, so since the S-VCM tricks the computer into thinking it’s below 167 degree F to disable VCM, do the fans automatically turn on when the engine is at normal operating temp. Of 200-210 regardless? I want to buy this device just concerned about overheating!
It took more than an year for me to realize that my 'transmission related' issues with my 2018 Pilot is actually due to a damn 'VCM'. After almost 5 visits to dealership and multiple 'Snapshot' sessions with Honda Techline, I am asked to live with it by Honda USA. I think I found the solution!
Just installed on my 2019 RTL-T. UNREAL. I so wish i knew about it sooner. It drives so much better. No cracks, creaks, shudder sounds, loss of power, jerkiness... I have 125k on it and it drives better than new. Awesome product!
I just got it today and installed the switch right away. Easy installation, 10-15 min tops. At start the indicators were shaking but only until the engine started. No warning light. Right out of the bat it felt and sounded different. No more weird weakness from the engine. More power and no more weird vibration. Happy so far. I will update if anything starts to be funny.
@@dropdabeat442 I had to remove it when the emissions light came on and Honda replaced all injectors under warranty. I still have to put it back in. I assume that with the vcm cut out, the injection system was working all the time and crapped out like it did on many other engines (hence extended warranty 10 years/150k). Should be all good now. I just need to find the time to put it back in.
@@s4-mtb678 Thanks for your answer. So this VCM bypass device can also damage injection system or just use it more than it normally should? I hate the unstable transmission caused by VCM, so I was thinking about getting this VCM bypasser.
@@dropdabeat442no it won't damage the injection system, that is faulty already on this own. To the contrary it will save your engine from other more catastrophic failures. In my case my assumption was that cutting off the vcm the whole injection system was running all the time so it increased the chances for a failure on one injector that was coming no matter what. On my 2017 was covered under warranty so it wasn't a big deal at all. 90k and fresh injectors for free it's good.
Just installed this on my 2015 Pilot. Took about 20 minutes (5 of it spent trying to get the old and dusty sensor plug out). No error codes. ECO light is now off. Throttle response is a lot better and driving seems smoother yet ready to go when I need it.
I bought it a year ago and finally got around to putting it on today. It would have been a lot easier if I had hands the size of a baby koala bear. Started it up and drove about 15 miles. No error codes AND NO ECO popped up. 2013 Pilot with 225k that I bought used last Summer.
I just installed on my 2017 pilot, working great. had a little trouble, because of engine light on, cleared and reinstalled, great after service/advice!!
I did buy that '21 Ridgeline.. I towed my 20' travel trailer (3600 pounds) and it pulls fantastic at 55-60mph and gets 14.7-15 mpg towing.. Dont plan on a huge amount of towing but its nice to know there are no performance issues while towing..
@@josephpetrizio78 If you're getting that while towing, that's not too bad... If you're not towing, then you have a major problem and need to connect a dealer level scan tool for analysis...
I found that a long-nose needle nose plyers work great to remove the connector. Just squeeze hard enough to compress the locking mechanism. Don't crush it.
Just installed an S-VCM on wife's 2016 Pilot two days ago. No error lights, no over heating, all looks good. We have 52K miles on this Pilot purchased new. Before the last oil change at 10000 miles, it had consumed almost 1 qt of oil, and the oil was very black. This got me reading and looking at videos about the oil change interval and VCM. From now on, we will not go past 5000 miles before an oil change. 10000 miles seems to be a recipe for oil burning all by itself, per many good mechanics. Our pilot consumed 207 gallons of regular gas last year and got 24.8 mpg. This was all around home, never more than 30 miles from home. It will get nearly 26 mpg freeway, fantastic gas mileage and power. I am tracking the Pilot mileage with the S-VCM installed, and curious to see any drop. My 2004 Odyssey at 105K miles gets 21.3 mpg around home with no oil consumption and 25 mpg freeway. 2004 was the last year before VCM was added. I has been a great trouble free van.
your 2016 pilot has 52k miles, that's an average of 7k miles a year? I wouldn't go more than one year on an oil change. Hopefully, you are using full synthetic oil.
I have a 2019 rigeline about 29k miles so far no issues. I also have a 2007 odyssey with a VCM1 engine with 225k miles No issues except for oil consumption. Switching to high mileage synthetic blend 5w20 helped that and change PCV. Now it’s down to about 1 qt every oil change. It use to be 2 qts.
I have a 2010 Honda Pilot. In 2017, my warranty has expired, and about two month after that with 72,000 miles, my spark plug went out (cylinder 3). Dealership told me a new spark plug was needed, and I paid for all the spark plugs to be changed. By November 2022 with 102,000 miles, check engine light turned on regarding cylinder 3. I found it strange that the same spark code popped up. Anyhow, my friend referred me to his friend that works for Honda service department to get the engine examined. During the examination, I was told that the piston ring needed to be replaced for cylinder 3. Since I was able to get a better deal to get the motor rebuilt by him, I agreed to it. During the tear down of the engine, half of the cylinder bank are black and brown. I was told that the VCM is most likely the issue. I wish I knew this many years ago when I had the spark plug issue before. I am curious about what happened to the class action lawsuit in 2013? I never received any letter regarding it. If anyone has info, please let me know.
On another note have you been treating your GDI carbon buildup with CRC? Are these engines getting carboned up? I cannot find much on TH-cam or anywhere. Would appreciate any pointers. Thanks. Great review.
How late is too late to install the SVCM? My Pilot is at 94,500mi, gave me code P0303 two days ago. Changed cylinder 3 plug and coil, now it’s fine again.
Just watched your video very informative. I’m thinking about buying a new ridgeline, but I’m really worried about the cylinder deactivation. What do you think about longevity of the engine.? The last Toyota I had went over 300,000 miles never had a problem just curious of what your thoughts are.
I have a 16 Pilot . Drive with the " ECO " 98% of the time . Never , ever noticed any loss of power/vibration . My only issue was the " Start/Stop " button . Conferred with the University of U Tube, brought a new button & replaced it myself .
You are missing out on 100% of the Air Conditioning. If you can’t tell the difference with the a/c, the dead pedal accelerator or expanded shifting vs NON ECO; you will not notice the difference in the VCM. Thanks for watching.
My first car was a well used 55 Chevy, $35 running in 1968, it had throttle lag when accelerating just like my new 2021 HPD Sport, the engine quit when stopping at stop signs or lights just like my HPD, and it had cylinder deactivation due to excessive oil consumption fouling spark plugs similar to HPD, awesome😂🎉😅❤😊technological genius
I had the VCM Muzzler awhile back and I got tired of the error codes and just took it off. Didn't notice much change. Didn't get the vibration everyone talks about and oil consumption wasn't bad for me. About half a quart or less for 7k miles so never looked for another way to disable the vcm.
I have a 2021 Honda Pilot, and I Install the S-VCM today. It works great !! I didn’t really notice it till I got on the highway, and started going up and down moderate sized hills. Normally, it will start to slow down, and then it will downshift, aggressively speed up with the RPMs hitting 5000, and then it will take a while to shift back up into the gear that it was in. It no longer does that, it keeps the gear, and just powers up the hill. I have one side effect, that I am COMPLETELY THRILLED with. The idle stop/start stoped working, meaning it no longer turns off at intersections, without me pressing the button. I followed the instructions perfectly, I mean, this isn’t exactly rocket science. I was driving today, made a couple stops, forgot to press the button, and realized it wasn’t turning off at traffic signals. I know The S-VCM Has nothing to do with the auto start/stop, but it is no longer working, and I’m not too upset about it 😂 If I find out why, I will let you know. In the meantime, if you have any ideas as to why, Let me know.
The Auto start/Stop returned the next day, so I guess I will be purchasing the auto start stop delete after all . . . The S-VCM, is working GREAT though !!
@@davidderfus3462 Im a Chrysler/ jeep tech and auto start stop is a PITA which always fails, and when it does, it pops up messages like.. "start/stop not ready, cabin heating", Start stop not ready, cabin cooling", "start stop not ready, seatbelt not fastened", start stop not ready, battery not fully charged", "start stop not ready, Hood open", etc... And that is from FCA/ Jeep dodge, Mopar. So if you ignore it, then you have to look at messages and warning lights on dash due to it bypassed or needs serviced.
Put on my 2012 Honda Odyssey with minimal effort. Does exactly what they say. I do get occasional error code but a $20 OBD2 scanner and I quickly clear it when needed.
My honda odyssey feels like my steering knuckle is lose or something. I mean my springs are terrible aftermarket quick struts, they bind. But I feel like my suspension is just falling apart, but all my front end joints, etc are ok enough. But the most lag I get is definitely when the eco light comes on, & I accelerate or decelerate. I really think it's the damn vcm ruined my mounts, the ones I can't easily inspect myself. And until I get hired into a shop, I don't have the equipment to check. So I think I'm gonna throw a muzzler on the vcm & see if it all gets better. It shudders a lot too. Almost feels like a stuck throttle plate, so I'll check that too. Feels like multiple front end issues....
Installed s vcm on my ridgeline and still get green eco lights around my gauges. Is that normal? Engine temp seems a bit cooler on gauge and feels like full 6 is always operational, but wasn’t expecting green lights to come on around gauge.
Just bought one ,been doing a lot of research on this and worth a try on my new 2020 pilot exl with 33k .I do my oil changes at 40% always have each time I've been down almost a quart to half a quart.also I've noticed when driving onto 2nd gear between 17 to 28mph at 1700 1800rpm I'm getting a whosh sound and a slight drop rpm when feathering cruising the gas and feeling of a slight misfire after pilots warmed up .wondering if this is vcm kicking it .but if I and taking off everything is great no shaking no jerking it runs great and don't feel or hear it when on gas pedal accelerating
I did 2 transmission drain and fills yesterday the problem has diminished after the 2nd drain and fill.i did the 1st then drove it and the problem dampened then brought it back home to do a 2nd one after driving it for 20 min getting all the fluid mixed up ,after the 2nd drain and feels like the gears tightened up and the shifts are flawless better then when I bought it.looks like I'll be doing tranny drain and fills every other oil change only cost me 40 bucks for 4 quarts and oil is 35 bucks for full synthetic. So that's the same price as a synthetic oil change if someone did it for me so it's not expensive to do that
No, I have eco mode off and can tell when the vcm is limiting the engine by the green glow around my gauges. White means full engine power. Green means vcm is limiting to 3 or 4 cylinders.
Whats the shimmy like? I have a 2024 BE that has this weird vibration around 30-40MPH best I can describe it is like have a loose wheel ... it's intermittent and cant make happen, does it when it wants and of course this will be a nightmare to find an answer.... I do notice when it does happen the truck has a heavy sluggish feel to it, wondering if it's stuck in 3 cylinder mode
I just picked up a 2022 Pilot with 50k miles and I’m noticing the exact same symptons. Wife thinks I’m crazy and social media thinks it’s rotor or wheel related. All signs are pointing to this VCM thing but I’m not 100% sure. Like you said vibrations I can feel in my seat, happens around those speeds and is intermittent. Haven’t even had it for a full day yet so I’ll try to pinpoint when it does it again. I’m thinking during stop and go traffic.
@@Strictlym3 There's no rhyme or reason with mine it just does it when it wants to do it, I've tried to log it when it happens but it's allover the place... I noticed it first at 400 miles and when cold or the first drive of the day and it progressed to happening when hot and could be the second or third drive of the day.... The only thing thats consistent is the heavy or lazy feel that I experience especially on the days first drive, even the steering feels extra heavy during slow maneuvers like parking (tires always at 36) On the forum an owner posted the same issue (there's actually a few that experience this) he said the dealer found the wheel bearings to be at fault??? for some reason I find that hard to believe.. Anyway needless to say its frustrating because there's no pattern that I can relay to the dealer... I suggested to keep it until you get to happen, but I need a loaner car,,,, and do you really think they'll put a tech on it everyday for a week or 2 to see if it happens? I think my next vehicle will be the latest gen Tundra at least Toyota acknowledges the issues that the truck has.
I have a 2021 Ridgeline EX-L and the VCM system is absolutely horrible! Always jerking and surging, RPM's bouncing around when in the same gear, noticeable change in noise and vibration when it kicks in. Sequential mode is even worse. I am completely surprised that a manufacturer like Honda would sell a vehicle with these types of issues.
Thanks for watching. You either know it’s there or you don’t. This entire comment section is back and forth. I’m with you. Worked great towing the camper this week.
Very cool. I'll be getting one for my 21 ridgeline.. probably volds warranty but I don't care.. I felt the hesitation between shifts and downshifting.. I thought that what it was to save on gas.
FYI, aftermarket items cannot void your warranty unless the manufacturer can prove your after market add-on is causing the problem. Kind of win-win. If they can prove the add-on is causing trouble, you'll know it too!
I have a 2007 Honda Pilot 4wd does it has the vcm? Mines using at least a quart a week sometimes 2 depending on how much it's driven. Ive read online the vcm was only on the 2006-2008 2wd pilots. If not this what else could be the problem? I changed the pcv valve no difference.
installed this for my wife's 2017 Ridgeline and it seemed to work great right away. What I didn't know is the problem crept back up and I wasn't aware until I drove it recently. I just uninstalled the unit and reinstalled and it seems to be working but, honestly, it almost feels like the problem is still there but it very, very subtle. Almost like it's in the background. Thoughts on this, anyone?
Just to share my experience with others who may be having VCM or similar issues, I'm taking my 2019 Ridgeline (32,000 miles) to the dealer on Monday. In addition to constant vibration (like unbalanced tires) at 70MPH, the truck has developed a tendency for the power to "surge" up and down while in the same gear, which is readily visible by watching the tach needle bounce all over the place. It's as if the truck has bad fuel in it, and it can't keep the power level consistent as it "misses". It makes for a very unpleasant driving experience, which sucks because this thing used to ride as smooth as glass. I suggested VCM to the dealer, and they said off the top of their heads, the three most likely culprits were the torque converter, the motor mounts, or the VCM. Motor mounts make sense to me for the vibration, but not the power surging. I will post an update after they evaluate it. I'm really hoping it's something quick and easy, like the computer just needing a hard reset or something like that.
I have a 2019 ridge line as well, same issue, and they said after multiple attempts, told me it’s normal. They tried it in a few other vehicles and it’s common. On mine, they replaced all sorts of stuff including a whole new transmission to no avail. I’m not sure what to do at this point.
So I took the truck in, as scheduled... and of course, it drove perfectly fine on that day, after displaying symptoms every day for about a month prior. Technicians could not, of course, duplicate the reported issues. I'm sure I'm not the only one who has experienced such things. Must be damned gremlins in my engine compartment!
Install was a breeze, I feel like it’s working but is there any way to tell for sure it’s working? Just want to make sure the VCM is definitely not turning on. VCM is a terrible idea and after seeing the issues Chevy had with it in Silverado I want no part of it! Gas is cheap compared to an engine or transmission!
All eco mode button does is lower a/c output, deaden pedals, and expands transmission shifts. VCM runs when 43 variables are met. One being engine temp.
I've been experiencing some mild vibration at 70MPH (my normal cruising speed) which I thought might be due to the tires. They're great tires (Michelin Defender), and had the balances checked. Everything is OK, but the vibration has continued, so I wonder if maybe it's due to this VCM you're describing? I didn't even know VCM existed!
Hi Randy Please please please PLEASE use your Ridgeline magic knowledge to find a way of disabling CMBS and Auto Stop / Start on the Ridgeline without having to switch them off before each journey. (They turn 'on' again when the engine is restarted even if one turns them 'off'.) Thank you, thank you thank you!
Eco mode lowers a/c output so your trucks going to take a hell of a long time to cool down. Also expands the shift pattern and softens the response of the gas pedal.
Not for routine maintenance. Only if your bringing fir check engine lights. Don’t give the dealership an excuse to blame plug & play products as they will!
I got a question for the original poster of the video I have a 2018 Honda pilot 43,000 MI I bought the svcm plugged it in now I noticed on the dash on the edge of the RPM gauge and fuel and the coolant gauge there's green LED lights on the edges as if I'm in eco mode is that normal
That’s Honda’s ECO ASSIST. It gives you feedback on your driving. Heavy pedal input it turns grey/white. Easy inputs shows green that you are accelerating at a fuel savings. The ECON button displays a GREEN LEAVE on the dash which reduces A/C output, expands shift points of transmission, and deadings the gas pedal. The VCM with the SVCM does not allow Variable Cylinders Management to operate no matter what mode.
Eco mode does not shutdown the cylinders. All the ECO light does is advise YOU that you are driving efficiently. If there is a button, press the button to off. In older Hondas ECON light on the dash is a happy light, the Econ BUTTON , deadens the pedal, extends the shift patterns in transmission, and lowers A/C output. Let me know if you have further questions. Thanks for watching.
@@CampingRandy on the 2017 odyssey no way to shut it off. And what I read online but it could be false like most stuff online they said it deactivated cylinders. I have felt the stutter there's no shutoff button until 2018. Here's what I found. Does 2017 Odyssey have VCM? All trims use a 248-hp 3.5-liter V6 engine that features Honda's variable cylinder management system (VCM), which allows the V6 engine to switch among three, four, and six cylinders to increase fuel efficiency.
I think we are loosing context in text. 1. Your vehicle has VCM 2. The Econ light or button does NOT shut cylinders down. 3. There needs to have 43 variables met to shut cylinders off 4. The SMART VCM Module de-activates your VCM FUNCTION - installed all cylinders will ALWAYS operate.
NOTE: some ECO lights will still show on some models, however the VCM has been disabled. The ECO light on the older versions (before the ECON button) reflect your driving. When your light on the gas pedal the ECO light illuminates. In the newer models the ECO light is the green hue around the instrument cluster. The ECON button in the newer Hondas, LOWERS A/C output, deadens the gas pedal, and extends the transmission gear shifting to save fuel. Thanks for watching.
Are there any Ridgeline owners out there (other than the guy with the Ridgeline store) that have used these for a few years and if so, what are your overall thoughts after several years of operation?
I disabled my Odyssey and I noticed no difference in mileage. Even if I got 5 mpg less it is still worth it, versus fouled plugs, and burning oil. worn out motor mounts, and several other problems.
Hi, I am hoping this will eliminate the buzzing noise my 2017 Ridgeline randomly makes at 1800-1900 Rpm. One question, is that going to affect the Eco function too?
All the ECON button does is dreading the gas pedal, expand the shift range of the transmission, and lower a/c output; which sucks on HOT DAYS. DO NOT USE when you first get in you truck on hot days. The S-VCM disables the truck running on three cylinders. The truck will run on all six cylinders all the time. Thanks for watching!
The IC engine is an efficient and simple power generator. I just bought a 20222 RTL-E and started researching issues. Two major sacrifices that were made to the gods of CAFE: 1. VCM and 2. auto start/stop. What horrible assaults on the engine and it's longevity these designs are. Considering what the designers are forced to come up with, I feel the benefits, if any, come at a huge down road price. By shutting down half the the pistons the remaining three now has to power the deadheads to spin against closed off cylinders compressing air on the upstroke and then drawing a vacuum on the downstroke. This all creates work needed which defeats any savings. Then dealing with thermal issues, lubrication and off-on cycling for the fuel system makes no sense. Auto start/stop is another mechanical disaster with stresses on every component from battery to starter to motor mounts to fuel system solenoids to drivability. I'm in process to making these so called enhancements go away.
I don't worry about it, I tow 2 times a month and don't notice much if anything except lower mpgs. It only activates at hwy speeds so not pulling 5000lbs and flying Im good. No issues with vibration, 2019 RTL E, pull Fishing boat, SXS, camper, sleds. All under 3500lbs., cant beat the Ridge the rest of the month just driving.
The auto start/stop also puts a lot of load on the cam belt. Electric motor torque is maximum at zero RPM. That peak torque is transferred to only a few belt teeth when the engine starts to spin.
Thanks for the excellent analysis of how bad the VCM concept is regarding shutting down half the cylinders and the impact that has on the engine overall. A ridiculous concept which ignores so many other operating factors for the engine.
2019 Pilot 6AT , only thing that changed was the temperature gauge, it stays at 165 but when I gets over 105 outside it goes back to normal No issues so far, I did notice the difference after installation, having a 6 cylinders available all the time makes the driving experience much better. I’m probably getting 1 less mpg in the city but I usually get 20mpg , haven’t done highway miles yet only city drive
The other MAJOR issue with the VCM is when it shuts down cylinders they are all at different temperatures which with an aluminum engine block can cause warping and leads to the vehicle using or "burning" oil between oil changes. It also creates sludge which is very bad for oil distribution throughout the engine as well as gums up the piston rings. So do you want fuel economy with less engine life or do you want to sacrifice a very small amount of fuel economy for longevity and reliability that Honda is known for? I personally have chosen the later. I also recommend 5000 mile oil changes with all engines if you've been told that you can go 10,000 read the owners manual or research it. In actuality VERY few people could do this safely as it depends on driving habits. Also our Ridgeline has had the transmission "judder" and was taken to the dealer several times. First they reprogrammed the transmission module per the service bulletin and when it returned they dealer now recommends changing your transmission fluid and filter every 20,000 miles. Every third one they recommend you do a flush. Which is you drain (leaving filter in place), fill, run it for 15 minutes, repeat previous drain, fill, & run procedure, then the third time you drain, replace the filter and fill. They say the "judder" is now caused by transmission oil contamination. This actually has worked and it's not as hard or expensive as it may sound if done yourself. These don't hold much fluid and the filter is external. So if you can change oil then you can do this. Also if you wait for something to "happen" or for signs of something most of the time it's too late to fix. These are known issues with these Honda VCM V6s going back over a decade now.
Not to mention that long term VCM usage can lead to damaged CAT converter as raw oil accumulates over time and ruins it. I also heard the Honda built this VCM mode to pass on emissions. So, the Honda VCM is : Nice from afar but far from nice …. Over time.
I’ve owned several Hondas and maintain the regularly. I’ve never had an issue with using oil. Many high mileage cars that burn oil have worn rings or valve seals. Worn rings are associated with dirty oil, extended oil change intervals, or high mileage. I suspect the oil use issue with VCM is that downstroke creates a vacuum that suck oil past the rings and more so especially if the rings are worn. This makes use of the sVCM more compelling on older high mileage vehicles. However, I plan on installing a S-VCM on my 22 Passport to keep things simple and help the engine and cat converter last longer.
sorry... wildly incorrect on block temps. the water jacket normalizes the temps. sludge is from high temps, low oil flow, and worn out oil/additives, NOT low temps (which we covered already). and the manual already stated to do a change AND flush every 30k so 20k changes and 1 per 3 change flushes is overall easier.
Got one for my 2012 Honda Crosstour V6 - installed per the instructions - no error codes and worked like a charm for a bit - then the ECO light comes on again just like it normally did. I contacted the supplier and they sent me a new one but same result - so not sure why it does not work on this car. Have taken it off as it really doesn't do anything.
Doesn't work correctly. I installed one and just finished a 3,400 mile trip. My VCM kept coming on after a few hours of my initial trip driving, and then virtually the whole trip except when the engine is warming up. Seems to only work on short, less then 10-20 mile trips only. I have no idea what the engine temp is since the VCMTUNER controls the temp gauge sender voltage. The temp gauge never moves after it warms up and no longer reads what the actual temp is. It could be running hot and I would never know it, so beware. I think there is more to disabling the VCM than just by the gauge temp sensor.
I just installed this and got like 15 error messages. Power steering. Lane departure. ACC. So on. Went for about a 5 mile drive and essentially nothing with a sensor works. Any idea how long it takes for the issues to go away?
@CampingRandy so interesting thing. I just went for a drive. All was well. Pulled in the driveway and all the warning lights/messages popped up again and my ridgeline shut off. Started flashing "keyless start not responding " and would not start doors wouldn't lock. I unhooked the battery for 5 minutes. Hooked it back up. Same thing. I pulled the vcm mod off and she fired right up.
Hello, I read in some comments from YT that some Ridgeline Owners (2021+ up model) have experience lighting up the dashboard like x-mas tree and the backup camera stopped working after installing the S-VCM, have anyone experienced this or have any information about it?
Just installed on my 23 RTL while cool from resting overnight and no caution lights at all when starting up and took on the highway to test. Engine felt fully engaged whole time. Only “concern” I have is that my gauges still get the green eco lighting around them and not sure why. Backup cam not working is likely poor timing related to the recall issue, but s vcm.
@@dmbsituation Thanks for sharing your experience. I believe the green lighting that comes up is based on how much you're pressing the gas pedal or throttle and not connected to the VCM. So your backup camera immediately stops working after you installed the S-VCM? Have you tried removing the S-VCM and check if the backup camera comes back? Thanks!
Installed s-vcm on 2022 Honda Pilot and get awd warning emissions and engine warning disconnected battery and waited 30 minutes before reconnecting battery and warnings go away for about 50 miles and come back how do I fix it short of removing device?
I installed this on my 2018 Ridgeline six months ago and it really smoothed out the engine. No codes and no difference in the gas milage. Best $120.00 I ever spent. Drives and runs smooth as butter.
I bought a used ‘17 Ridgeline about 2 years ago and one of the first things I noticed was how the truck vibrated, made weird noises and the tac would bounce around quite a bit. My family thought I was crazy, but after doing some research learned about the VCM. I HATED it. I’ve had this product on my truck for over a year now and have loved it. No issues and all of those “problems” have gone away. Best $100 I’ve spent on the truck.
Great to hear! We love ours as well. Make sure to subscribe. More to come. Thank you!
Still going strong? I purchased a 2017 ridgeline two months ago and i have the rpm fluctuations. Im going to change the trans fluid (4 drop method) and filter tomorrow and have one of these svcm on the way. I LOVE this truck with the exception of the rpm fluctuations, theyre awful!
Great to hear!
@@midroad-2443Happy new year, yeah your ridgeline needs a drain and fill ×3 ( ×2 is ok) of Dw1 or flavor of atf fluid. Then atf every 30k or yearly ( just do transfer + diff at the same time too) do not overfill atf, measure it hot and look for line in the middle of cold and hot line of the trans dipstick.
VCM has been good in the J35Y6 engine with Direct injection, there is less opportunity for oil consumption and DI burns even and cooler than than Port injecton which was the problem with the Odyssey and accords .
However, VCM doesn't play well with the Honda 6 speed auto which is why I recommend to disable. The TCU is programed to go out of Torque converter lock up and slip the clutch to matching rpm for smooth 6 to 3 cycle switch with the active motor mounts to handle the 3 banger vibrations. Then there is the Dw1 formula that is heavy in Zinc or ZDDP, as an all in one antiwear additive. It's fine as far as chemistry which is closer to manual atf with 10× less Zinc used for creating Triboflims on the clutch material as a wear layer that will rebuild as long as there is enough addtive package. Now think about slipping a clutch in a manual you aren't doing it often or at all but in this case everytime VCM needs to initiate the clutch will be feathered while going in and out of Torque converter lock up which will pretty much slowly glaze the clutch material resulting in the 'RPM flutter' and 'Torque converter Judder'.
Then as the fluid has deteriorated and no longer provides adequate pressure due to the slipping RPM needs to increase to compensate to disengage TQ lock up, feather clutch, VCM engage the fluctuations cycle repeats. (The Judder is TQ clutch in and out)
To maintain VCM relies on oil pressure for activition which is connected to the RPM but when there is a slip RPM need to rise to compensate, then falls once pressure us reached; more slippage and RPM rises and falls again
( the flutter).
It seems only the people driving the J35Y6 engine gently have more of the RPM flutter
Thoughts regarding installing it on the 9 speed?
UPDATE: S-VCM module has been installed for well over 5000 miles now.. No decrease in fuel economy at all.. 65mph and not towing or hauling anything yields 28mpg... Super happy with purchase...
Great news! Thanks for sharing.
Is this device smog legal in California?
It’s has nothing to do with exhaust.
Would this apply to a 2022 HondaPassport?
@@kgill5 if the engine is a J35Y6 (and I think it is) it should work perfectly. I now have 27,000 miles on it and it easily gets 29mpg not towing. It gets 20-21mpg when towing a 1500 pound bass boat.
I installed this on a 2024 Ridgeline and it works great. Before the install the tach bounced around a lot, transmission searching for gears, the cruise control was a nightmare with how long it took to adjust speed on hills or when lane changing from behind a slower vehicle. After the install the vehicle is so much smoother, trans stays in the same gear on most hills, the cruise control is instant now when adjusting speed, a lot more power.
On my Ridgeline the temp gauge is in bars. 4 bars is normal operating temp. When I installed the S-VCM the temp gauge only went to 3 bars but once the idle stop cycled the engine or I cycled it by stopping and restarting it the gauge went to 4 bars, leading me to thing the product had stopped working. I reached out to Randy and he got tech support involved. They had me check the actual temp with a scan tool at the local parts store. When the engine cycled after being warm it went from 163 degrees to 165 for a couple of seconds and then back down to 163, so the product was working fine. I'm thinking the breaking point from 3 bars to 4 is 165 degrees on my Ridgeline.
I wanted to share all of this in case anyone else runs into the same thing and thinks they have a defective part. It's working fine.
Btw, I can't see any reduction in fuel economy.
Installed about a week ago in my 2012 Pilot EX-L. Easy as pie. No error codes and no more ECO light. Super smooth shifting and a full six cylinders of power!
NOTE: some ECO lights will still show on some models, however the VCM has been disabled. The ECO light on the older versions (before the ECON button) reflect your driving. When your light on the gas pedal the ECO light illuminates. In the newer models the ECO light is the green hue around the instrument cluster. The ECON button in the newer Hondas, LOWERS A/C output, deadens the gas pedal, and extends the transmission gear shifting to save fuel. Thanks for watching.
@@CampingRandy so this disables VCM and ECo mode? Eco mode button would do nothing? 2020 Ridgeline
@@AlpineWarreni have it in my ‘23 Ridgeline. Eco mode still does everything else, just disables the VCM. My AC doesn’t blow as hard, my gas pedal is less responsive and my gears shift more economically when I push the button, so I ride around like that most of the time.
Question on overheating, so since the S-VCM tricks the computer into thinking it’s below 167 degree F to disable VCM, do the fans automatically turn on when the engine is at normal operating temp. Of 200-210 regardless? I want to buy this device just concerned about overheating!
It took more than an year for me to realize that my 'transmission related' issues with my 2018 Pilot is actually due to a damn 'VCM'. After almost 5 visits to dealership and multiple 'Snapshot' sessions with Honda Techline, I am asked to live with it by Honda USA. I think I found the solution!
I also have a 2018 pilot bad have been dealing with shifting jerks. I think I might have found the solution
Just installed on my 2019 RTL-T. UNREAL. I so wish i knew about it sooner. It drives so much better. No cracks, creaks, shudder sounds, loss of power, jerkiness... I have 125k on it and it drives better than new. Awesome product!
I just got it today and installed the switch right away. Easy installation, 10-15 min tops. At start the indicators were shaking but only until the engine started. No warning light. Right out of the bat it felt and sounded different. No more weird weakness from the engine. More power and no more weird vibration. Happy so far. I will update if anything starts to be funny.
Awesome- always remember to install an a completely COLD engine. Thanks for watching!
is it still working good?
@@dropdabeat442 I had to remove it when the emissions light came on and Honda replaced all injectors under warranty. I still have to put it back in. I assume that with the vcm cut out, the injection system was working all the time and crapped out like it did on many other engines (hence extended warranty 10 years/150k). Should be all good now. I just need to find the time to put it back in.
@@s4-mtb678 Thanks for your answer. So this VCM bypass device can also damage injection system or just use it more than it normally should? I hate the unstable transmission caused by VCM, so I was thinking about getting this VCM bypasser.
@@dropdabeat442no it won't damage the injection system, that is faulty already on this own. To the contrary it will save your engine from other more catastrophic failures. In my case my assumption was that cutting off the vcm the whole injection system was running all the time so it increased the chances for a failure on one injector that was coming no matter what. On my 2017 was covered under warranty so it wasn't a big deal at all. 90k and fresh injectors for free it's good.
Just installed this on my 2015 Pilot. Took about 20 minutes (5 of it spent trying to get the old and dusty sensor plug out). No error codes. ECO light is now off. Throttle response is a lot better and driving seems smoother yet ready to go when I need it.
I bought it a year ago and finally got around to putting it on today. It would have been a lot easier if I had hands the size of a baby koala bear. Started it up and drove about 15 miles. No error codes AND NO ECO popped up. 2013 Pilot with 225k that I bought used last Summer.
Sweet!!!
Odyssey also has it. Fouled plugs on a long trip. VCM Tuner II for me. Has been running great for over 40,000 miles.
Great to hear
I just installed on my 2017 pilot, working great. had a little trouble, because of engine light on, cleared and reinstalled, great after service/advice!!
Great to hear!
I did buy that '21 Ridgeline.. I towed my 20' travel trailer (3600 pounds) and it pulls fantastic at 55-60mph and gets 14.7-15 mpg towing.. Dont plan on a huge amount of towing but its nice to know there are no performance issues while towing..
Great to hear!!! Great gas mileage!! I’m at 10 to 11. Lol
You installed one? How do you like it
Mine is doing great. I’m at 11mpg when I tow my 4k camper. But I have oversized wheels, a lift, a rack, a roof toot tent, etc!
I have a 23 Ridgeline. Stock everything and get 12- 14 mpg 😢😢😱🤯..
@@josephpetrizio78 If you're getting that while towing, that's not too bad... If you're not towing, then you have a major problem and need to connect a dealer level scan tool for analysis...
Installed on 2021 Ridgeline Sport, it was working fine, but recently set off my Emissions check engine light.
What did you do next? Did you just clear the error using OBD? Or did you uninstall the S-VCM and the light went off? Thanks!
I found that a long-nose needle nose plyers work great to remove the connector. Just squeeze hard enough to compress the locking mechanism. Don't crush it.
Two small screwdrivers work too. One on the clip. One on the bottom to twist and off it goes!!!! Thanks for the input!
Thanks helped alot
Just installed an S-VCM on wife's 2016 Pilot two days ago. No error lights, no over heating, all looks good. We have 52K miles on this Pilot purchased new. Before the last oil change at 10000 miles, it had consumed almost 1 qt of oil, and the oil was very black. This got me reading and looking at videos about the oil change interval and VCM. From now on, we will not go past 5000 miles before an oil change. 10000 miles seems to be a recipe for oil burning all by itself, per many good mechanics. Our pilot consumed 207 gallons of regular gas last year and got 24.8 mpg. This was all around home, never more than 30 miles from home. It will get nearly 26 mpg freeway, fantastic gas mileage and power. I am tracking the Pilot mileage with the S-VCM installed, and curious to see any drop. My 2004 Odyssey at 105K miles gets 21.3 mpg around home with no oil consumption and 25 mpg freeway. 2004 was the last year before VCM was added. I has been a great trouble free van.
Great to hear!!!! Thank you for the feedback!
your 2016 pilot has 52k miles, that's an average of 7k miles a year? I wouldn't go more than one year on an oil change. Hopefully, you are using full synthetic oil.
I have a 2019 rigeline about 29k miles so far no issues.
I also have a 2007 odyssey with a VCM1 engine with 225k miles
No issues except for oil consumption. Switching to high mileage synthetic blend 5w20 helped that and change PCV.
Now it’s down to about 1 qt every oil change. It use to be 2 qts.
Just breaking them in! Thanks for watching!
Had a Gen1 RL same here NO issues with that one 231,000miles. Sold and bought 2019 RTL E love it just the way she is.
I have a 2010 Honda Pilot. In 2017, my warranty has expired, and about two month after that with 72,000 miles, my spark plug went out (cylinder 3). Dealership told me a new spark plug was needed, and I paid for all the spark plugs to be changed. By November 2022 with 102,000 miles, check engine light turned on regarding cylinder 3. I found it strange that the same spark code popped up.
Anyhow, my friend referred me to his friend that works for Honda service department to get the engine examined. During the examination, I was told that the piston ring needed to be replaced for cylinder 3. Since I was able to get a better deal to get the motor rebuilt by him, I agreed to it. During the tear down of the engine, half of the cylinder bank are black and brown. I was told that the VCM is most likely the issue. I wish I knew this many years ago when I had the spark plug issue before.
I am curious about what happened to the class action lawsuit in 2013? I never received any letter regarding it. If anyone has info, please let me know.
On another note have you been treating your GDI carbon buildup with CRC? Are these engines getting carboned up? I cannot find much on TH-cam or anywhere. Would appreciate any pointers. Thanks. Great review.
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I have a 2020 Honda Ridgeline RTL never had any problems with the truck.
I agree my 2019 has been flawless even towing a camper. Will this device cause a warranty issue if installed.
Yes I do notice that little bit of shaming when you take off and it clears and I'm planning to remove that the ECM thank you for the good advice
We look forward to your order!
I have a 22. No issues with vibrations or engine hesitation.
Great to hear
How late is too late to install the SVCM? My Pilot is at 94,500mi, gave me code P0303 two days ago. Changed cylinder 3 plug and coil, now it’s fine again.
It’s actually great for older HONDAS as it keeps all cylinders running all the time so you don’t get codes. I have shops that order them all the time.
Just watched your video very informative. I’m thinking about buying a new ridgeline, but I’m really worried about the cylinder deactivation. What do you think about longevity of the engine.? The last Toyota I had went over 300,000 miles never had a problem just curious of what your thoughts are.
I personally think you’ll be fine and much more comfortable driving!
Will this work for my 2018 Pilot? I need this in my life! The "misfires" feeling when gassing sucks... no power.. need to get rid of VCM 🙌
Yes yes yes.
@CampingRandy thank you! Mine came in a few days ago, and I put it to the test. Holy cow!! Vrooom vroom like a NAS car 😆🙌
ENJOY!
I have a 16 Pilot . Drive with the " ECO " 98% of the time . Never , ever noticed any loss of power/vibration . My only issue was the " Start/Stop " button . Conferred with the University of U Tube, brought a new button & replaced it myself .
You are missing out on 100% of the Air Conditioning. If you can’t tell the difference with the a/c, the dead pedal accelerator or expanded shifting vs NON ECO; you will not notice the difference in the VCM. Thanks for watching.
My first car was a well used 55 Chevy, $35 running in 1968, it had throttle lag when accelerating just like my new 2021 HPD Sport, the engine quit when stopping at stop signs or lights just like my HPD, and it had cylinder deactivation due to excessive oil consumption fouling spark plugs similar to HPD, awesome😂🎉😅❤😊technological genius
Thanks for the comment!!!!
I had the VCM Muzzler awhile back and I got tired of the error codes and just took it off. Didn't notice much change. Didn't get the vibration everyone talks about and oil consumption wasn't bad for me. About half a quart or less for 7k miles so never looked for another way to disable the vcm.
It’s either the greatest thing or not such a big deal. That’s why there are options in life.
I have a 2021 Honda Pilot, and I Install the S-VCM today. It works great !! I didn’t really notice it till I got on the highway, and started going up and down moderate sized hills. Normally, it will start to slow down, and then it will downshift, aggressively speed up with the RPMs hitting 5000, and then it will take a while to shift back up into the gear that it was in. It no longer does that, it keeps the gear, and just powers up the hill. I have one side effect, that I am COMPLETELY THRILLED with. The idle stop/start stoped working, meaning it no longer turns off at intersections, without me pressing the button. I followed the instructions perfectly, I mean, this isn’t exactly rocket science. I was driving today, made a couple stops, forgot to press the button, and realized it wasn’t turning off at traffic signals. I know The S-VCM Has nothing to do with the auto start/stop, but it is no longer working, and I’m not too upset about it 😂
If I find out why, I will let you know. In the meantime, if you have any ideas as to why, Let me know.
THAT IS GREAT TO HEAR!! So awesome. Glad to know both issues solved! Enjoy and thanks for shopping with us as well watching!
The Auto start/Stop returned the next day, so I guess I will be purchasing the auto start stop delete after all . . .
The S-VCM, is working GREAT though !!
THE STOP AND START WONT WORK IF YOUR SEAT BELT IS NOT PLUGGED IN... SO MAYBE YOU DIDN'T HAVE YOUR SEAT BELT ON...
@@boblawrence1692 are you SERIOUS !? !? !? I had no idea. Thanks for the info, good to know.
@@davidderfus3462 Im a Chrysler/ jeep tech and auto start stop is a PITA which always fails, and when it does, it pops up messages like.. "start/stop not ready, cabin heating", Start stop not ready, cabin cooling", "start stop not ready, seatbelt not fastened", start stop not ready, battery not fully charged", "start stop not ready, Hood open", etc... And that is from FCA/ Jeep dodge, Mopar. So if you ignore it, then you have to look at messages and warning lights on dash due to it bypassed or needs serviced.
Great video. I have the confidence to do it now to my Honda Odyssey!
It makes a difference in the long run.
Hi Camping Randy. Do you have any information on a SVCM disabled for the 2023 Trailsport?
I bought a Pilot with throwing "low oil pressure" code. Only changed the oil 2000 miles ago. So its consuming oil. Going to try this thing.
Let us know!
Put on my 2012 Honda Odyssey with minimal effort. Does exactly what they say. I do get occasional error code but a $20 OBD2 scanner and I quickly clear it when needed.
Great to hear. What’s the code you are getting?
@@CampingRandy I don’t recall the number but it’s related to the catalytic converter.
@@lukelinnell2057 that sounds unrelated to the S-VCM device. might be something worth taking a look at.
My honda odyssey feels like my steering knuckle is lose or something. I mean my springs are terrible aftermarket quick struts, they bind. But I feel like my suspension is just falling apart, but all my front end joints, etc are ok enough. But the most lag I get is definitely when the eco light comes on, & I accelerate or decelerate. I really think it's the damn vcm ruined my mounts, the ones I can't easily inspect myself. And until I get hired into a shop, I don't have the equipment to check. So I think I'm gonna throw a muzzler on the vcm & see if it all gets better. It shudders a lot too. Almost feels like a stuck throttle plate, so I'll check that too. Feels like multiple front end issues....
Did you ever get one?
Installed s vcm on my ridgeline and still get green eco lights around my gauges. Is that normal? Engine temp seems a bit cooler on gauge and feels like full 6 is always operational, but wasn’t expecting green lights to come on around gauge.
Just bought one ,been doing a lot of research on this and worth a try on my new 2020 pilot exl with 33k .I do my oil changes at 40% always have each time I've been down almost a quart to half a quart.also I've noticed when driving onto 2nd gear between 17 to 28mph at 1700 1800rpm I'm getting a whosh sound and a slight drop rpm when feathering cruising the gas and feeling of a slight misfire after pilots warmed up .wondering if this is vcm kicking it .but if I and taking off everything is great no shaking no jerking it runs great and don't feel or hear it when on gas pedal accelerating
Sounds like it. Let me know your results! Thanks for watching.
I did 2 transmission drain and fills yesterday the problem has diminished after the 2nd drain and fill.i did the 1st then drove it and the problem dampened then brought it back home to do a 2nd one after driving it for 20 min getting all the fluid mixed up ,after the 2nd drain and feels like the gears tightened up and the shifts are flawless better then when I bought it.looks like I'll be doing tranny drain and fills every other oil change only cost me 40 bucks for 4 quarts and oil is 35 bucks for full synthetic. So that's the same price as a synthetic oil change if someone did it for me so it's not expensive to do that
Question: 2023 Ridgeline has a 'green leaf' button for "eco" that can be turned on/off. Is that button controlling the VCM?
No, I have eco mode off and can tell when the vcm is limiting the engine by the green glow around my gauges. White means full engine power. Green means vcm is limiting to 3 or 4 cylinders.
Does this work on a 2024 ridgeline trailsport?
I hope Honda watches this video and see these problems that need to be addressed.
Whats the shimmy like? I have a 2024 BE that has this weird vibration around 30-40MPH best I can describe it is like have a loose wheel ... it's intermittent and cant make happen, does it when it wants and of course this will be a nightmare to find an answer.... I do notice when it does happen the truck has a heavy sluggish feel to it, wondering if it's stuck in 3 cylinder mode
I just picked up a 2022 Pilot with 50k miles and I’m noticing the exact same symptons. Wife thinks I’m crazy and social media thinks it’s rotor or wheel related. All signs are pointing to this VCM thing but I’m not 100% sure. Like you said vibrations I can feel in my seat, happens around those speeds and is intermittent. Haven’t even had it for a full day yet so I’ll try to pinpoint when it does it again. I’m thinking during stop and go traffic.
@@Strictlym3 There's no rhyme or reason with mine it just does it when it wants to do it, I've tried to log it when it happens but it's allover the place... I noticed it first at 400 miles and when cold or the first drive of the day and it progressed to happening when hot and could be the second or third drive of the day.... The only thing thats consistent is the heavy or lazy feel that I experience especially on the days first drive, even the steering feels extra heavy during slow maneuvers like parking (tires always at 36) On the forum an owner posted the same issue (there's actually a few that experience this) he said the dealer found the wheel bearings to be at fault??? for some reason I find that hard to believe.. Anyway needless to say its frustrating because there's no pattern that I can relay to the dealer... I suggested to keep it until you get to happen, but I need a loaner car,,,, and do you really think they'll put a tech on it everyday for a week or 2 to see if it happens? I think my next vehicle will be the latest gen Tundra at least Toyota acknowledges the issues that the truck has.
I’m installing my kit now. I didn’t have a fuse with it. Just a positive cable. Do I need one ?
No - the new version have an internal circuit.
This 3.5l engine is used in the Odyssey and some Acura models. They all have the VCM.
Correct.
Does this work in 2024 Ridgeline Black Edition?
Yes it does
I have a 2021 Ridgeline EX-L and the VCM system is absolutely horrible! Always jerking and surging, RPM's bouncing around when in the same gear, noticeable change in noise and vibration when it kicks in. Sequential mode is even worse. I am completely surprised that a manufacturer like Honda would sell a vehicle with these types of issues.
Thanks for watching. You either know it’s there or you don’t. This entire comment section is back and forth. I’m with you. Worked great towing the camper this week.
Make sure to order at the Ridgelinestore.com
are there any promo codes for you website?
Not currently
I just ordered one for my 2019 ridgeline can't wait
You will love it!!! Thank you.
I have a 2021 Ridgeline and I can't believe it has VCM. No power issues. It is completely undetectable?
It has it.
It's also in acura 3.5 , I installed it on my 2019 acura tlx 3.5, no errors code or nothing plug and play
Correct!
Will this product also work for the 2023 Honda Pilot Touring??
i jumped on the website and its no longer $95 . its $130... any discount codes that way i can order off your website? Thanks
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Very cool. I'll be getting one for my 21 ridgeline.. probably volds warranty but I don't care.. I felt the hesitation between shifts and downshifting.. I thought that what it was to save on gas.
Just unplug when you bring it in.
FYI, aftermarket items cannot void your warranty unless the manufacturer can prove your after market add-on is causing the problem. Kind of win-win. If they can prove the add-on is causing trouble, you'll know it too!
Damn right!!! Boom.
I have a 2007 Honda Pilot 4wd does it has the vcm? Mines using at least a quart a week sometimes 2 depending on how much it's driven. Ive read online the vcm was only on the 2006-2008 2wd pilots. If not this what else could be the problem? I changed the pcv valve no difference.
I was told yes it does.
My question: does this effect the dash coolant temp? As far as giving a false reading or does it show actual temperature?
No
installed this for my wife's 2017 Ridgeline and it seemed to work great right away. What I didn't know is the problem crept back up and I wasn't aware until I drove it recently. I just uninstalled the unit and reinstalled and it seems to be working but, honestly, it almost feels like the problem is still there but it very, very subtle. Almost like it's in the background. Thoughts on this, anyone?
Just to share my experience with others who may be having VCM or similar issues, I'm taking my 2019 Ridgeline (32,000 miles) to the dealer on Monday. In addition to constant vibration (like unbalanced tires) at 70MPH, the truck has developed a tendency for the power to "surge" up and down while in the same gear, which is readily visible by watching the tach needle bounce all over the place. It's as if the truck has bad fuel in it, and it can't keep the power level consistent as it "misses". It makes for a very unpleasant driving experience, which sucks because this thing used to ride as smooth as glass. I suggested VCM to the dealer, and they said off the top of their heads, the three most likely culprits were the torque converter, the motor mounts, or the VCM. Motor mounts make sense to me for the vibration, but not the power surging. I will post an update after they evaluate it. I'm really hoping it's something quick and easy, like the computer just needing a hard reset or something like that.
Thanks so much for the input. Please make sure to let us know outcome!!!
I have a 2019 ridge line as well, same issue, and they said after multiple attempts, told me it’s normal. They tried it in a few other vehicles and it’s common. On mine, they replaced all sorts of stuff including a whole new transmission to no avail. I’m not sure what to do at this point.
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So I took the truck in, as scheduled... and of course, it drove perfectly fine on that day, after displaying symptoms every day for about a month prior. Technicians could not, of course, duplicate the reported issues. I'm sure I'm not the only one who has experienced such things. Must be damned gremlins in my engine compartment!
Keep me posted!
Install was a breeze, I feel like it’s working but is there any way to tell for sure it’s working? Just want to make sure the VCM is definitely not turning on. VCM is a terrible idea and after seeing the issues Chevy had with it in Silverado I want no part of it! Gas is cheap compared to an engine or transmission!
Your temp gauge will just be a bit below mid.
If you leave ECO mode off will the engine still go to 3 cylinders on the highway?
All eco mode button does is lower a/c output, deaden pedals, and expands transmission shifts. VCM runs when 43 variables are met. One being engine temp.
I clicked the link in your description to order the S-vcm and couldn't find it. Do you still offer them?
It’s fixed. Thanks
got P3497 p0305 p0306 p0300 codes today. will this module deactivating this vcm fix that issue? how much more gas am i going to burn?
Yes it will.
I've been experiencing some mild vibration at 70MPH (my normal cruising speed) which I thought might be due to the tires. They're great tires (Michelin Defender), and had the balances checked. Everything is OK, but the vibration has continued, so I wonder if maybe it's due to this VCM you're describing? I didn't even know VCM existed!
As hydraulic motor mounts wear they mask the vibration less
@@travelingrailfan4634 thank you
Agreed.
Can I tap the 12V off an always on fuse in the nearby fusebox.
Hi Randy
Please please please PLEASE use your Ridgeline magic knowledge to find a way of disabling CMBS and Auto Stop / Start on the Ridgeline without having to switch them off before each journey. (They turn 'on' again when the engine is restarted even if one turns them 'off'.) Thank you, thank you thank you!
$30 idle off from eBay does the trick for this. Just installed mine yesterday with maybe 5 minutes of effort.
Does it show true temperature reading on the dashboard with svcm installed?
Yes 167°
VCM = Very Crippling Malady. Does Honda void your warranty if you install this?
No
How does this differ from leaving the Eco mode off all the time? Not sure if I should invest in one for my 2020 RL.
Eco mode lowers a/c output so your trucks going to take a hell of a long time to cool down. Also expands the shift pattern and softens the response of the gas pedal.
Eco mode doesn't disable the VCM. Just changes the throttle responses and AC output.
Didn’t I just say that?
@@CampingRandy you didn't say the part that it doesn't disable the VCM :)
Yup, never use the Eco mode and it is another button on the dash that could disappear.
Need to take it out when taking it to the dealer?
Not for routine maintenance. Only if your bringing fir check engine lights. Don’t give the dealership an excuse to blame plug & play products as they will!
I got a question for the original poster of the video I have a 2018 Honda pilot 43,000 MI I bought the svcm plugged it in now I noticed on the dash on the edge of the RPM gauge and fuel and the coolant gauge there's green LED lights on the edges as if I'm in eco mode is that normal
That’s Honda’s ECO ASSIST. It gives you feedback on your driving. Heavy pedal input it turns grey/white. Easy inputs shows green that you are accelerating at a fuel savings. The ECON button displays a GREEN LEAVE on the dash which reduces A/C output, expands shift points of transmission, and deadings the gas pedal. The VCM with the SVCM does not allow Variable Cylinders Management to operate no matter what mode.
My wife has a 2017 odyssey touring is there a way to turn the eco mode off which also shuts down cylinders corrects. Thanks
Eco mode does not shutdown the cylinders. All the ECO light does is advise YOU that you are driving efficiently. If there is a button, press the button to off. In older Hondas ECON light on the dash is a happy light, the Econ BUTTON , deadens the pedal, extends the shift patterns in transmission, and lowers A/C output. Let me know if you have further questions. Thanks for watching.
@@CampingRandy on the 2017 odyssey no way to shut it off. And what I read online but it could be false like most stuff online they said it deactivated cylinders. I have felt the stutter there's no shutoff button until 2018. Here's what I found. Does 2017 Odyssey have VCM?
All trims use a 248-hp 3.5-liter V6 engine that features Honda's variable cylinder management system (VCM), which allows the V6 engine to switch among three, four, and six cylinders to increase fuel efficiency.
I think we are loosing context in text. 1. Your vehicle has VCM 2. The Econ light or button does NOT shut cylinders down. 3. There needs to have 43 variables met to shut cylinders off 4. The SMART VCM Module de-activates your VCM FUNCTION - installed all cylinders will ALWAYS operate.
Does this help with the engine running like it's a 4 cylinder. 2009 Honda Ridgeline
Keeps all cylinders firing.
NOTE: some ECO lights will still show on some models, however the VCM has been disabled. The ECO light on the older versions (before the ECON button) reflect your driving. When your light on the gas pedal the ECO light illuminates. In the newer models the ECO light is the green hue around the instrument cluster. The ECON button in the newer Hondas, LOWERS A/C output, deadens the gas pedal, and extends the transmission gear shifting to save fuel. Thanks for watching.
Do you know what years are the Honda vcm engines?
As early as 2003 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variable_Cylinder_Management
A year later, how has it done. Any negatives like loss of MPG?
Scroll to the bottom of this link to read all reviews and feedback. Most folks only see a mile per gallon decrease if anything. ridgelinestore.com/
Are there any Ridgeline owners out there (other than the guy with the Ridgeline store) that have used these for a few years and if so, what are your overall thoughts after several years of operation?
Just placed an order on your store for my accord v6
Appreciate the business!!!!! Thank you.
@@CampingRandy thank you for making it easier to get the product.
Very welcome!
I disabled my Odyssey and I noticed no difference in mileage. Even if I got 5 mpg less it is still worth it, versus fouled plugs, and burning oil. worn out motor mounts, and several other problems.
Some folks say zero. Others say 1or 2 mpg lose. But yes - worth it!!!
This reminds me of tricking the auto shutoff (which nearly got me killed--twice.)
It just sets it in deactivate mode on start up. When you want to use it, you press the (@) to turn it back on.
Ordered one for my Acura RDX 2015 (2nd Gen) yesterday. My issue is vibrations. Let's hope it helps.
Oh man - it should!!!! Let me know.
@@CampingRandy Happy to report that it did. No more vibrations! Thank you.
Awesome!!!!!
Hi, I am hoping this will eliminate the buzzing noise my 2017 Ridgeline randomly makes at 1800-1900 Rpm. One question, is that going to affect the Eco function too?
All the ECON button does is dreading the gas pedal, expand the shift range of the transmission, and lower a/c output; which sucks on HOT DAYS. DO NOT USE when you first get in you truck on hot days. The S-VCM disables the truck running on three cylinders. The truck will run on all six cylinders all the time. Thanks for watching!
@@CampingRandy good, I only use it on long highway stretches. I just ordered one, I'll leave a feedback once I install and use it. Thanks!
Awesome to hear!!! Thanks for watching.
I have a 16 accord v6 coupe auto, vcm vibration is annoying, does this work for that model ? Any long term effects of adding this svcm ?
Yes it’ll work. Long term effect…mmmmmmmm, well your rings last longer, coils, spark plugs etc
@@CampingRandy thanks very much, I think I will be ordering one 😀
The IC engine is an efficient and simple power generator. I just bought a 20222 RTL-E and started researching issues. Two major sacrifices that were made to the gods of CAFE: 1. VCM and 2. auto start/stop. What horrible assaults on the engine and it's longevity these designs are. Considering what the designers are forced to come up with, I feel the benefits, if any, come at a huge down road price. By shutting down half the the pistons the remaining three now has to power the deadheads to spin against closed off cylinders compressing air on the upstroke and then drawing a vacuum on the downstroke. This all creates work needed which defeats any savings. Then dealing with thermal issues, lubrication and off-on cycling for the fuel system makes no sense. Auto start/stop is another mechanical disaster with stresses on every component from battery to starter to motor mounts to fuel system solenoids to drivability. I'm in process to making these so called enhancements go away.
Thanks for watching.
I don't worry about it, I tow 2 times a month and don't notice much if anything except lower mpgs. It only activates at hwy speeds so not pulling 5000lbs and flying Im good. No issues with vibration, 2019 RTL E, pull Fishing boat, SXS, camper, sleds. All under 3500lbs., cant beat the Ridge the rest of the month just driving.
The auto start/stop also puts a lot of load on the cam belt. Electric motor torque is maximum at zero RPM. That peak torque is transferred to only a few belt teeth when the engine starts to spin.
Thanks for the excellent analysis of how bad the VCM concept is regarding shutting down half the cylinders and the impact that has on the engine overall. A ridiculous concept which ignores so many other operating factors for the engine.
do the gauge cluster lights remain white while driving after installing? Or do they still cycle though white > light green > green?
2019 Pilot 6AT , only thing that changed was the temperature gauge, it stays at 165 but when I gets over 105 outside it goes back to normal
No issues so far, I did notice the difference after installation, having a 6 cylinders available all the time makes the driving experience much better.
I’m probably getting 1 less mpg in the city but I usually get 20mpg , haven’t done highway miles yet only city drive
They will still run green
Does the 2022 ridgeline has this VCM thingy? I don’t notice any issues yet please advise.
Yes it does. No issue if you notice or not. Some folks notice it and drives them crazy. Very irritating if you do feel it. Thanks for watching!
You won’t notice it because is a new vehicle but eventually you will start noticing as motor mounts start wearing out
The other MAJOR issue with the VCM is when it shuts down cylinders they are all at different temperatures which with an aluminum engine block can cause warping and leads to the vehicle using or "burning" oil between oil changes. It also creates sludge which is very bad for oil distribution throughout the engine as well as gums up the piston rings. So do you want fuel economy with less engine life or do you want to sacrifice a very small amount of fuel economy for longevity and reliability that Honda is known for? I personally have chosen the later. I also recommend 5000 mile oil changes with all engines if you've been told that you can go 10,000 read the owners manual or research it. In actuality VERY few people could do this safely as it depends on driving habits. Also our Ridgeline has had the transmission "judder" and was taken to the dealer several times. First they reprogrammed the transmission module per the service bulletin and when it returned they dealer now recommends changing your transmission fluid and filter every 20,000 miles. Every third one they recommend you do a flush. Which is you drain (leaving filter in place), fill, run it for 15 minutes, repeat previous drain, fill, & run procedure, then the third time you drain, replace the filter and fill. They say the "judder" is now caused by transmission oil contamination. This actually has worked and it's not as hard or expensive as it may sound if done yourself. These don't hold much fluid and the filter is external. So if you can change oil then you can do this. Also if you wait for something to "happen" or for signs of something most of the time it's too late to fix. These are known issues with these Honda VCM V6s going back over a decade now.
Nice to know!!!!
Not to mention that long term VCM usage can lead to damaged CAT converter as raw oil accumulates over time and ruins it. I also heard the Honda built this VCM mode to pass on emissions. So, the Honda VCM is : Nice from afar but far from nice …. Over time.
I’ve owned several Hondas and maintain the regularly. I’ve never had an issue with using oil. Many high mileage cars that burn oil have worn rings or valve seals. Worn rings are associated with dirty oil, extended oil change intervals, or high mileage. I suspect the oil use issue with VCM is that downstroke creates a vacuum that suck oil past the rings and more so especially if the rings are worn. This makes use of the sVCM more compelling on older high mileage vehicles. However, I plan on installing a S-VCM on my 22 Passport to keep things simple and help the engine and cat converter last longer.
downstroke/intake doesn't create more vacuum than normal operation does. @@kgill5
sorry... wildly incorrect on block temps. the water jacket normalizes the temps. sludge is from high temps, low oil flow, and worn out oil/additives, NOT low temps (which we covered already).
and the manual already stated to do a change AND flush every 30k so 20k changes and 1 per 3 change flushes is overall easier.
Have a 2007 Ridgeline. Will it help with gas milage ?
You will actually loose one mile per gallon.
Got one for my 2012 Honda Crosstour V6 - installed per the instructions - no error codes and worked like a charm for a bit - then the ECO light comes on again just like it normally did. I contacted the supplier and they sent me a new one but same result - so not sure why it does not work on this car. Have taken it off as it really doesn't do anything.
Awesome- great to hear. Enjoy. Thanks for watching!
Hopefully works for my 2011 accord sedan v6 auto. order one a couple days ago. Burning a quart of oil every 3400 miles
On the way!
On a new 2023 Pilot with the new DOHC V6 that has VCM will this device work on that new engine.?
You know…. I need to investigate that.
Yes it does.
Does defeating this affect the warranty
No - you just remove before bringing in the dealer. Takes a while 2.78 minutes.
I installed a similar device on my 2009 Pilot about 5-6 years ago. My excessive oil consumption vanished over night.
Great to hear!
Which product did you end up going with?? I have a 2010 Pilot with the same oil consumption issue.
Get the SVCM as I support it. My store is all about pre and post sales services!
I have a 2017 Ridgeline run it in Eco mode all the time and have never noticed anything....
Understood. Some folks feel a huge issue. Others do not. This is mainly for those who have issue. Myself, I personally not a fan of ECO mode.
Eco mode it’s only for cruising, traveling etc but not daily driving friendly
AGREED!!!
Doesn't work correctly. I installed one and just finished a 3,400 mile trip. My VCM kept coming on after a few hours of my initial trip driving, and then virtually the whole trip except when the engine is warming up. Seems to only work on short, less then 10-20 mile trips only. I have no idea what the engine temp is since the VCMTUNER controls the temp gauge sender voltage. The temp gauge never moves after it warms up and no longer reads what the actual temp is. It could be running hot and I would never know it, so beware. I think there is more to disabling the VCM than just by the gauge temp sensor.
Did you reach out directly to get a replacement?
I just installed this and got like 15 error messages. Power steering. Lane departure. ACC. So on. Went for about a 5 mile drive and essentially nothing with a sensor works. Any idea how long it takes for the issues to go away?
If they don’t go away, disconnect the battery to reset.
@CampingRandy I unplugged the unit. Reinstalled and everything went away.
Great to hear!!! Thank you.
@CampingRandy so interesting thing. I just went for a drive. All was well. Pulled in the driveway and all the warning lights/messages popped up again and my ridgeline shut off. Started flashing "keyless start not responding " and would not start doors wouldn't lock. I unhooked the battery for 5 minutes. Hooked it back up. Same thing. I pulled the vcm mod off and she fired right up.
Email me at support@ridgelinestore.com and we get you another one. Something is up. Go ahead keep disconnected.
Vehicles equipped with VCM
2003 Honda Inspire
2004+ Honda Elysion V6
2005-2007 Honda Accord Hybrid (JNA1)
2005+ Honda Odyssey (USDM) EX-L and Touring Models only (J35A7)
2006-2008 Honda Pilot 2WD Models only (J35)
2008-2017* Honda Accord V6 (except EX-L V6 6MT Coupe) *Starting with 2013 Model, VCM operation is 3- or 6-cylinder mode, no longer 3, 4, 6-cylinder operation.[2]
2009+ Honda Pilot (all models)
2011-2016 Honda Odyssey (USDM) V6
2013 Acura RDX V6
2013 Acura RLX *3 or 6 cylinder mode
2014 Acura MDX *3 or 6 cylinder mode
2015 Acura RLX Sport Hybrid *3 or 6 cylinder mode
2016 Acura TLX V6
2017 Honda Ridgeline
See also
Chrysler's Multi-Displacement System (MDS)
Daimler AG's Active Cylinder Control (ACC)
General Motors' Active Fuel Management (AFM)
Variable displacement
Awesome thanks for posting. I’ll put in the description.
If the lights turn green does that mean the VCM kicks on. I just put it on and it's doing that.
That’s showing it’s getting power to the module. Thanks for shopping with us.
Sorry so late with the reply. I'm talking about the green light on the odometer.
That’s driving style. Green means your driving well and saving has. When it’s gray, you to heavy on the pedal.
Just to clarify it works for a 2019 honda pilot as well?
YES
How would VCM be turned off in a 2023 Pilot?
Same - by temperature.
Will this work on my 2009 Honda Accord v6
Yes it will. Just select the proper drop down. theridgestore.com/products/S-VCM-Controller-VCM-Disabler-p369729001
Hello, I read in some comments from YT that some Ridgeline Owners (2021+ up model) have experience lighting up the dashboard like x-mas tree and the backup camera stopped working after installing the S-VCM, have anyone experienced this or have any information about it?
Just installed on my 23 RTL while cool from resting overnight and no caution lights at all when starting up and took on the highway to test. Engine felt fully engaged whole time. Only “concern” I have is that my gauges still get the green eco lighting around them and not sure why.
Backup cam not working is likely poor timing related to the recall issue, but s vcm.
@@dmbsituation Thanks for sharing your experience. I believe the green lighting that comes up is based on how much you're pressing the gas pedal or throttle and not connected to the VCM. So your backup camera immediately stops working after you installed the S-VCM? Have you tried removing the S-VCM and check if the backup camera comes back? Thanks!
Installed s-vcm on 2022 Honda Pilot and get awd warning emissions and engine warning disconnected battery and waited 30 minutes before reconnecting battery and warnings go away for about 50 miles and come back how do I fix it short of removing device?
Reach out to me at support@ridgelinestore.com
Did you figure it out
I think he ordered for the wrong vehicle.
How is this one vs vcm tuner II? Idk which one to buy. 21 passport.
@jared...I have had the VCM tuner ll for 2+ years in my 2010 Honda Crosstour 3.5 v6 and it does just fine!
Buy the one I back.
Will this mean I can’t put on eco mode once installed?
Yes you can. Econ will lower A/C performance and reading the throttle and shift points.