Get to know the HARDEST SKILLS in the current Code of Points (2022-24)

[@ragansmithgymnastics7782]

It's so crazy to see the vaults being valued so low, I saw the "5.2 and up" for vault and I was like "oh so this is the hardest skills but we're going to see the Lopez and others" but then I saw the tsuk double and I realized that everything had been devalued... Honestly FIG doesn't need to devalue the vaults anymore it's the uneven bars that scores the highest anyway.

[@deepeshmathuria]

Ikr. I mean the difference between produnova, biles and double twisting yurchenko is merely 0.6 like WTF.

[@1itslaurahere1]

I feel like they should higher the scores for vault to what they used to be again, who cares if the scoring isn't equal in all apparatuses?

[@murasakino101]

I never understood why they devalue them in the first place. Like vault is the quickest apparatus so of course it'll score high but it doesn't score high enough to be a huge problem. Someone with a really clean DTY can still score as well as someone with a not as clean amanar. UB has always had around the highest scores so I doubt vault is that much of a threat

[@rachelmarie2228]

@@1itslaurahere1 I always kind of felt like vault should be the lowest scoring event, because it is a single skill, while on the other apparatuses they are counting the top X number of skills. (The number of skills counted has varied over the years, so I just put X.)
Why should a single vault skill, and a performance that lasts a couple of seconds be valued the same as 5, 8, 10 skills and a 90 second performance?

[@--julian_]

​@@deepeshmathuria no, the dty is 5.0

[@SociallyDistantnow]

I love that you featured Trinity Thomas on the Biles I! Thanks for always making top quality content for us. Loved this!!

[@AndYouWillBeWithMe]

Thank you so much for giving us such a precise and clear compilation! I wonder where you even began to gather all the info

[@d00f60]

I love how all your thumbnails have a unique lettering font thing that really makes the video look captivating. Keep up the good work!! And is the inbar pike tkatchev on bars named after someone?

[@triplefull7057]

I did see the question. I believe Sophie is the only one to do it but she never submitted it so it was never named after her

[@ragansmithgymnastics7782]

@@triplefull7057 iirc it is actually named, I think Scheder and Kelly Simm both did it at 2015 worlds so it's the Scheder-Simm.
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[@wape5135]

It's really just crazy how dominating Simone is. I mean she got the hardest vault, the hardest floor element and the hardest beam dismount (at the moment) ?! And she still performs them like its nothing?! but then there are people who say she isn't the GOAT etc. just because of her mental health!

[@alice.s.m.6482]

Jade carey actually has the hardest floor skill. The only K rated skill, it is insane

[@_sayen]

@@alice.s.m.6482 she never performed it in competition so it isn't in the code

[@Inyourlap]

@@_sayen And her execution is not as solid as Simone’s

[@chaoticyank5772]

@@alice.s.m.6482 It is not in COP yet and she needs to work a lot on it. I love Jade's gymnastics, but that skill looks like an injury waiting to happen. The video of it is terrifying and not in a good way.

[@NadineWu]

@@chaoticyank5772 Can you post a video or tell me which search terms to use? I'm curious.

[@naomi4424]

They changed the scoring system so much that they no longer get the full value of the skill that it was in the old COP

[@kimwaddell4218]

These ladies are amazing

[@bellab1142]

im sorry but Derwal's layout tkachev to L grip is rated higher than a TRIPLE BACK TUCK 15 feet in the air that can snap your ankles easily??? no wonder no one performs it.

[@irreplaceable760]

i feel like front entry vaults should be worth more

[@Fvhlipe]

They are only good if not sloppy. Alicia Sacremone's vault was above perfection

[@Sweetlovewhit91]

Doing a backhandsrping onto the vaulting table is more difficult by itself than just a front handspring but because you get more power from that it makes the flight phase easier. Getting a good block from a Yurchenko vault requires so much precision that I think it evens out the front handspring and the back handspring power difference.

[@bloodrainicorn6193]

Lovely channel you have! The descriptions of the vaults were so nice. I’ve always wondered what made them distinct from one another.

[@enriquegarciaperez2131]

Una corrección Brenda Magaña no es de España, ella es de México

[@skitzo429]

Truthfully, the way Trinity does the Biles should be recognized as a different skill, the entire second salto is forward, although we know by precedent that in the modern code exact placement of twists is usually disregarded. This is analogous to the double Arabian bars dismount and the Fontaine (back salto w/ 1/2 to front salto) being recognized and different, equally valued skills.

[@liltut3979]

Very informative info! Thanks for the info and God bless you!

[@BelleBlack1]

Not calling the move Simone did on BB as a Barani. THE SHADE.

[@zofiajuranty5590]

what's the difference between the fwd jump w/ half turn on beam that simone did and the girgorar sui liu did? they look like the same skilland i know they're not but i can't figure out how!

[@harryt5878]

So Simone does a half twist and then a back somersault whereas sui liu does a front somersault and then a half twist - very slight difference!

[@josealmir7973]

Daiane dona de um dos movimentos mais difíceis da ginástica.. Não sei por que o valor tão baixo podia ser um "j" e eu garanto que poucas ginastas arriscariam ele

[@triplefull7057]

It's for sure harder than the moors imo, it should be rated J I think

[@brenden6218]

More like an I not j

[@francisnguyen6349]

Amazing hardest skills for Gymnastics.

[@ji-soopark57]

I feel like they need to either devalue the silivas or increase the full twisting double on floor, there’s too much of a gap

[@georgeroyce3459]

Will you be doing old high bar routines that are still competitive?

[@JanitaShowaars]

I SURE HOPE SO!

[@JanitaShowaars]

Maybe a video on the hardest old school skills as well!

[@triplefull7057]

I am still working on it, it will take a lot of time since I have to look up half the skills but it will be out soon

[@georgeroyce3459]

@@triplefull7057 thank you

[@TheMajesticice01]

You mean Kelly Garrison?! Not Steve Garrison

[@williamt594]

think they may have been confused because her name is now Kelly Garrison-Steves or something along those lines

[@jawkneekim]

Is the Yurchenko double pike not in the code of points? Is it because it wasn't submitted at a World Cup/World Championships/Olympics?

[@plieu625]

It technically wasn’t performed during qualifications or finals since Simone dropped out of the events.

[@triplefull7057]

Yes it has to be submitted at an FIG certified international meet la, Simone has only preformed it in domestic meets

[@jawkneekim]

@@triplefull7057 That makes sense. Thanks for the clarification!

[@chaoticyank5772]

@@triplefull7057 This is very sad. It is a gorgeous vault. Hopefully Simone will be able to do it at an international meet.

[@meu4972]

Does anyone know Simone doesn't perform Biles I on vault anymore? Is it related to her fall one time?

[@guardianofthegalaxy2051]

If the Nabieva is downgraded to F, why isn’t Nabieva 1/2 a G?

[@triplefull7057]

I wish someone could answer this

[@jessicamessica287]

i think honestly just because of the massive amount of gymnasts training messy nabs they wanted to downgrade that, but probably figured just leaving nabs 1/2 at h would be easier since not as many will train it due to it basically needing an ezhova after it

[@Abahple]

I think it also has something to do with the fact that most people training it (including Derwael) aren't actually rotating in the air, making it more of a Nabieva with a catch in mixed grip rather than a true Nabieva 1/2.

[@richardvergara]

Gosh, it just doesn’t seem interesting anymore without Simone dominating, does it? She’s so great. I mean, GREAT. And it’s amazing to see the great ones do what they do. Everyone else is good, but Simone’s technique was just better and cleaner and really just more beautiful to watch. Gymnastics just won’t be the same.

[@mygirldarby]

All that fawning over her was just too much pressure. It had to have been extremely stressful for Simone to deal with people constantly gushing over her. I think she would have been happier to have just been a part of the team. They went too far with the whole GOAT thing. I mean, even Simone started believing the hype...this woman was walking around with embroidered goats on her clothing. The sports announcers acted like no other gymnast even existed. How could anyone live up to this hype? I hope they learned something from what happened at the Olympic games. The sports world tried to turn an excellent gymnast into a superhuman who couldn't possibly live up to the expectations they all had. What happened to her was a really sad way to exit the sport. I'm glad she is on tour and getting to enjoy her sport without all the intense pressure.

[@bellab1142]

@@mygirldarby Simone started believing she was the goat because she finally realized she is. It's not a belief it's a reality. She's undoubtably, and unquestionably the greatest gymnast of all time. The announcers are meant to comment and critique the gymnast's form and technique. Hers happened to be impeccably better than everyone else, so of course they were fixated on it. She's in a different category that's never been seen before, so her performances have way more anticipation. Millions of people started watching gymnastics specifically to see Simone Bile's performances. The tv channels that broadcast gymnastics competitions focus on her to gain audience engagement... get a grip. She was the most fantastic gymnast and if commentators talked about her like she was on the same level as everyone else, you would complain they're not complementing her enough.

[@murasakino101]

I haven't heard that she's retired yet but I agree that it's not the same without her or the others like suni as well. The only person close to simone's difficulty that's still coming back is Jade and it looks like she has even harder skills in her kit now, but I'm not the biggest fan of her gymnastics (not saying she's bad because she isn't and she's a truly amazing gymnast, but when it comes to floor, I prefer Simone's gymnastics). I have a feeling that there's a lot of new talent out there though so I don't think we need to worry. I imagine there's gonna be another amazing gymnast coming out soon and suni may return as well(dk yet though since she's doing college)

[@benbailey159bb]

@@bellab1142 You she's the greatest of all time and yet she doesn't have Olympic gold medals at more than one Olympics.

[@Bxyxox]

@@benbailey159bb and how many do you have? I’ll never understood how losers like you love to sit in their seats and criticize others who are more accomplished than you’ll ever be. Just pathetic

[@ronaldoirias2245]

we have a ground jump in the value J or K
It's a triple double layout

[@aaronricopollo]

6:05 Brenda Magaña is from México

[@joannachiu4587]

Is it that gymnasts may not do the hardest skills but the right combination of skills that are their strength and connect them, they will have a higher difficulty score？

[@triplefull7057]

Yes of course

[@triplefull7057]

I am about to make a video on it soon be sure to check it out, as a matter of fact, in 2008 thr hardest rouitnes came form gymnasts with hardest skills. In 2016 the focus shigted form that to doing a series of skills in connection so as to earn bonus and lastly, in 2021 it's about connecting the hardest skills to one another to gain the most reward

[@joannachiu4587]

@@triplefull7057 That's so awesome！Help us understand how gymnastics develops and evolved！Thanks！

[@luisgustaffroblesponce5917]

Brenda Magaña is from Mexico, not Spain

[@clairemercier3969]

A very young Catalina Ponor. Lovely.

[@seandee5342]

Well they might have high DIV however it’s still depends on the execution level. Yeah, you can do those diff. but can’t land properly

[@gccstan31]

the toe on layout tkachev to mix grip is so overrated.

[@Fvhlipe]

Exactly!! No way that's harder than the Mo-salto. Also mix L-grips are in general overrated.

[@murasakino101]

I heard that Nina was upset that it didn't get a higher rating. Idk if that's true though but if it is, the rating on it was MORE than fair considering the nabieva being an F/G

[@GabrielGabriel-zq2ci]

Excellent video. Do a male version, please.

[@Fvhlipe]

I DIDN'T KNOW YAO JINNAN COULD DO THAT!! 😱😱😱 Can someone tell me what happened to her at London Olympics?

[@triplefull7057]

That was 2013 she did not do that skill in 2012

[@The-ub3gb]

Isn’t Brenda Magaña from Mexico?

[@kellydavegumangan6313]

Can I request a video for MAG??

[@triplefull7057]

Why not

[@TSpeaks]

I HATE how low these point values are. It’s getting ridiculous

[@inspirarte5251]

Navieba Star value ???

[@itz_namelezszsz4508]

5:50, she’s Mexican.

[@jakob1095]

Nice video. What about the new Wevers on the bars? I think it has a H-Rating

[@triplefull7057]

Not officially in the COP. She only did it at the dutch trails not a FOG certified international event

[@jakob1095]

@@triplefull7057 oh i see. Thanks

[@ji-soopark57]

What about the double pike vault??

[@wjunior0895]

The dos Santo II is a H or a I?

[@triplefull7057]

H

[@Whoaheswims]

Id love to see one of these with Mens Hardest Skills one day.

[@luckyclubpenguin]

Did the FWD Jump w/ half turn to tucked salto bwd get an upgrade? It was worth an E in the previous COPs

[@riquebusta8652]

Sorry I can’t differentiate the Barani and Grigoras but they have both been valued F since the 2017-20(21) code if I remember correctly.

[@lorenzob.6989]

@@riquebusta8652 But the one that Simone does here got credited as an Aerial Round-Off which is worth an E

[@riquebusta8652]

@@lorenzob.6989 the one at 7:45 ? That’s the Barani and it says F and it’s been an F since the 2017-20 code or what are you talking about? Give me the time stamp because I’m confused

[@psychstudentrip]

The Arabian mount on bars got downgraded ?? What was the point of that no one was performing it ; - ;

[@444angelzz8]

love thisssss

[@lovepop4336]

Brenda Magaña it's Mexican

[@alissonsilva-mr1kg]

Dos santos II poderia ter valor máximo

[@ameenalnabbout8769]

Nice - but missing few skills

[@triplefull7057]

Which ones? Since the Tsukahara layout 2 1/2(5.6) piked arabian mount on the bars, and front aerial mount on beam had NO footage.

[@CountryCowboy008]

Biles was severely over scored. It’s not as difficult as Produnova.

[@Bxyxox]

You should do it then

[@--julian_]

i thought brenda magaña was Mexican?

[@inspirarte5251]

Falto yurkenko double pike or biles

[@SociallyDistantnow]

It’s not in the CoP yet. Simone has to perform it in an international competition for it to be added as an eponymous skill in the Code of Points. She has only performed it in a domestic competition as of now.

[@alexandrevieiracharles8959]

Theres no value of Dos Santos II on FX

[@purplelightninglisa]

To the person who made this video: I invite you to revisit your labels for some of the skills. For example, you labeled a double double as a 2/1, where clearly a double double is two twists and two flips, making it a 2/2…not a 2/1…also you labeled the Biles 2 as a 3/1, when clearly it is a triple twisting double back salto, which means it should be labeled a 3/2…I could go on, but I digress. I just invite you to watch your own video with a discerning eye and make the changes that are obvious.

[@gymcentric5727]

you clearly need to revisit your own thinking, because your incorrect. the fraction 2/1 = 2, as in 2 twists. 2/2 = 1, it’s simple math. 3/2 = 1.5, 3/1 = 3. before attempting to correct the video creator, realize the fractions on indicate the twists, not flips.

[@williamt594]

you make yourself sound so silly lmao

[@williamt594]

‘obvious changes’ lmao

[@SydNeil98]

They are labeled correctly in the video, the amount of flips is listed first and the number of twists last, so in the case of the triple double, it clearly states that its a double salto (two flips) backwards that is performed in the tuck position with 3 twists listed as the fraction 3/1 as it appears in the code of points.

[@williamt594]

@@SydNeil98 exactly