I really hope when Jade throws that skill in competition, she gets more height. It scares me every time seeing her land so low. I have seen that video a million times and I am still cringing. Simone is a queen.
Jade’s version we’ve seen her train is actually a laid out triple double, so more difficult than Simone’s. So I wonder if she actually nails the tucked version
@@steveb.7278 I think the original comment was referring to the triple double. Like the video stated, Jade and mikayla have both done the biles II too and they both landed it well. The triple double lay out is concerning though. Jade's landings have gotten a lot better, but the skill is hard to keep form on AND land safely on. Since she'll be doing college, I don't think we'll see it for a while, but I hope she's able to land it successfully one day. I personally think she might have done it I'm Tokyo if Simone was able to do floor finals but since she wasn't there, Jade didn't need it.
To me, Carey is the silent successor of Biles. She’s consistent, performs very difficult skills and is on her way to performing a skill more difficult than the Biles II. Now, though I believe she will be the successor, I don’t think she will be as trascendental to the sport as Simone is. I mean, let’s be honest, we won’t have another gymnast like Biles for decades from now.
@@geraldsonofgod Just because you have one hard skill doesn’t make you a successor. Maybe a successor on floor but Jades all around program isn’t anywhere near Simone’s.
was just watching vid i took at trials of her on fx. u cant quite appreciate the physics of Simone until u c her in person. the height she generates is literally out of this world. i waz speechless then and typing this out several months later is difficult bc there simply are not words that accurately define what i saw. You know thosegiant tv cameras that move as gymnast competes? theyre like a mini crane with long arm that extends upward and are at eye level of audience sitting on 2nd or 3rd levels of arena? well in the video i have, right when she does RO BHS the camera moves upwards toward ceiling about 5 or 6 feet bc thats how far out of a regularly positioned camera shot she would be if the camera stayed put. i hope that makes sense. i dont know what those cameras or their parts are called; however, im sire they have a name, unlike the amazingness that is Simone. there is no word for it--it is simply Simone Biles. what a treasure.
Simone is such a powerhouse, legit, mess with her and you are getting kicked into the atmosphere. I love how it just appears to be just another regular skill to her!
She didn’t go out of bounds, but it doesn’t matter, she over powered it whereas other gymnast are trying their hardest to rotate it, and some just over rotates it like its nothing
@@kanyebreast6072 going out of bounds is hardly a fail. Especially with an element as difficult as this one. You clearly are not very familiar with the sport as no one who was would say something so profoundly stupid.
@@kanyebreast6072 The COP has ruined this sport, in my opinion, by ignoring these hideous glaring errors and still scoring her first. She's destroyed the beauty of this sport by going beyond the sweet spot of difficult, artistic gymnastics with exceptional form and execution. It's not Simone's fault; she's just playing the COP but these huge mistakes and form breaks should be heavily penalized. She's just a glorified acrobat.
Watch it in slow motion, count the half twists then divide by two. It's easier at least for me. Then watch it in normal speed trying to see what you've counted. With practice you'll eventually be able to count right away most of the times or at least have a clue :)
Actually there is another skill too difficult that people don't do either not only bc of its difficulty but also because is too underscored, wich is dos santos II submitted by the world champion daiane dos santos. It was also a skill that they was only seen on MAG. When it comes from south america they score it low.
That skill should at least be an H or I imo. Even dos santos herself had to pike a bit to perform the skill. Idk about men's gymnastics, but no one else in women's gymnastics has done it other than is creator and it still hasn't been performed fully laid out yet. If anyone could do it, I think it could either be Simone or Jade but I haven't seen either of them do Arabian type skills so idk if they'd ever try it
@@murasakino101 didnt Simone have a Dos Santos II in her routines early in the quad? Youre right no one really does it full (Chellsoe Memmel posted a training which is the closest/beyond layout, some others hve too) but I don’t think that’s true. Also, the triple double definitely is the hardest still
Idk a lot about gymnastics but I’m hoping that the great advancement in the last decade is due to the fact that there’s more of an emphasis on wellness now than ever before rather than just coaches pushing gymnasts to their breaking point. They are great gymnasts making history for sure but I’d really also want to see them flourish as human beings ❤️
Vanessa is one of my favorite Bruins EVA! I got to see her live at the 2009 NCAAs (although I wasn't familiar with her at the time 🤣). And her Cheng vault was indeed special! 😍
Yes gymnastics has changed but to the younger generation they are not seeing it like we saw it. I’m sure the gymnast before Olga said the same thing about her adding handsprings and back tucks on beam. It’s what it is people, we are about to die off 😛
Gymnastics IS a sport to test endurance, strength, flexibility, control over your body, control over the laws of physics, muscular tone and conditioning, and to inspire other people to keep their own bodies in FANTASTIC shape. I think people who are bemoaning the "lost artistry" that they claim has come at the sake of higher skills DO NOT REMEMBER what Gymnastics IS.
She still is a great gymnast just run out of steam because of pressure just my opinions to much difficulty and to much pressure made her get lost in the air
at 0:40 they show a thumble who is named after the brazilian gymnast lorrane oliveira as if it wasnt submitted or belongs to an united states gymnast. u guys cant stop stealing people, dont u
Cant stop stealing? A skill doesn’t belong to someone. They also showed Laurie Hernendez doing the straddle into jaeger even though that was done by a Chinese gymnast in the 2000s and I guess you skipped over that one too. All they are talking about is hard skills, doesn’t matter who does it.
Even in men's gymnastics, it's a skill that isn't used often. Same with the triple double layout. If Jade did it, it would have been the hardest skill on floor in women's and men's gymnastics until the nagornyy came (the liukin was also tied for the hardest skill in men's gymnastics before too and it's a triple back)
It takes an insane amount of power and technique to fit 3 twists into 2 saltos. It’s not merely an “apparatus change” that allowed for this skill to even happen.
I think that’s harsh and unnecessary. A lot of gymnasts today are graceful, and a lot have great technique. You’re clearly just bitter, I’d rather be watching this era of gymnastics where they’re allowed to basically do as they please, rather than watching 14 yr old girls be starved and forced to do the same basic routine, or the exact same tumbles in their optionals. Sorry but there’s pros and cons to both and for you to phrase this the way you have just makes you sound bitter because you can’t have what you want now. Gymnastics is still an amazing sport and you discrediting athlete’s hard work is just laughable. Could you do either gymnastics back then or now? No I didn’t think so
Gymnastics is a sport and there's so much technique in these hard skills. I mean without technique non of these would be possible. Grace is still there you just need to watch with an open eye. At the end of the day this is not a dance competition
It's great to see innovation in tumbling, but if the Code awarded equally difficult dance and control aspects of the sport it would become more balanced and encourage gymnasts who excell at the more precise aspects.
If it's true Simone Biles is the greatest gymnast of all time how come she cannot do elements Elena Shushuneva or Aurelia Dobre or Daniela Silivas did long time ago? New system is made to kill beauty, inovations and hard skills and inpruve row strenght and freakness.
It's crazy now there is not a focus on the gymnasts being skinny and not eating... instead they focus on healthy eating to fuel their body and women are performing better than ever before
Simone is an incredible acrobatist, but she lacks the grace and beauty that comes with being a gymnast. I don't mean to put down her skill, it's just I'm tired of the artistry of gymnastics becoming a thing of the past and tricks galore taking over the whole thing.
but why should women gymnastics mirror the men gymnastics and make it all about acrobatics and power? women gymnastics has it's own qualities like artistry, elegance, flexibility... skills that men gymnastics lacks, and skills that makes women gymnastics so fun to watch!!!
The same thing had happened in figure skating and I personally feel it's taken away from the grace and elegance of the sport. I enjoy both much less that I have previously
@@shey1238 Um, there are basic dance moves throughout most of gymnastics. The floor routine was predominantly dance, but now is only tricks with mostly no dance
@@antonetteallen2194 Um exactly what it should be...mostly gymnastics with a tiny bit of dance moves. What's the point if a gymnastics competition has predominantly dance LOL? That's why I said this is gymnastics and not a dance contest
And she does it better than any man she literally like you're standing upright when she finishes at Ella gymnastic freaky guy wants to nastics this up all the time it's kind of hard to not see her incredible difficulty when you watch the next you no competition when she's not around and the girls just aren't as good
I really hope when Jade throws that skill in competition, she gets more height. It scares me every time seeing her land so low. I have seen that video a million times and I am still cringing. Simone is a queen.
Simone jumps almost 10ft in the air I doubt jade goes higher maybe 9 ft max
Jade’s version we’ve seen her train is actually a laid out triple double, so more difficult than Simone’s. So I wonder if she actually nails the tucked version
@@steveb.7278 I think the original comment was referring to the triple double. Like the video stated, Jade and mikayla have both done the biles II too and they both landed it well. The triple double lay out is concerning though. Jade's landings have gotten a lot better, but the skill is hard to keep form on AND land safely on. Since she'll be doing college, I don't think we'll see it for a while, but I hope she's able to land it successfully one day. I personally think she might have done it I'm Tokyo if Simone was able to do floor finals but since she wasn't there, Jade didn't need it.
To me, Carey is the silent successor of Biles. She’s consistent, performs very difficult skills and is on her way to performing a skill more difficult than the Biles II.
Now, though I believe she will be the successor, I don’t think she will be as trascendental to the sport as Simone is. I mean, let’s be honest, we won’t have another gymnast like Biles for decades from now.
@@geraldsonofgod Just because you have one hard skill doesn’t make you a successor. Maybe a successor on floor but Jades all around program isn’t anywhere near Simone’s.
Fun fact, the 3 I rated Skills in the Code of Points are the Moors, Nagornyy and the Miyachi!
What kind of skill is Miyachi in MAG?
@@demonsalwayswin It’s a double twisting layout kovacs over the high bar, insane!
What is the Moors? I've not heard of that one
@@benbailey159bb Moors is double twisting double back layout on FX in WAG.
Not the biles?
was just watching vid i took at trials of her on fx. u cant quite appreciate the physics of Simone until u c her in person. the height she generates is literally out of this world. i waz speechless then and typing this out several months later is difficult bc there simply are not words that accurately define what i saw. You know thosegiant tv cameras that move as gymnast competes? theyre like a mini crane with long arm that extends upward and are at eye level of audience sitting on 2nd or 3rd levels of arena? well in the video i have, right when she does RO BHS the camera moves upwards toward ceiling about 5 or 6 feet bc thats how far out of a regularly positioned camera shot she would be if the camera stayed put. i hope that makes sense. i dont know what those cameras or their parts are called; however, im sire they have a name, unlike the amazingness that is Simone. there is no word for it--it is simply Simone Biles. what a treasure.
Gravity be like, “I’m a law.”
Simone be like, “You have no jurisdiction here.”
Simone is such a powerhouse, legit, mess with her and you are getting kicked into the atmosphere. I love how it just appears to be just another regular skill to her!
I love when the narrator says “nailed it” right when Simone literally bounces out of bounds.
She didn’t go out of bounds, but it doesn’t matter, she over powered it whereas other gymnast are trying their hardest to rotate it, and some just over rotates it like its nothing
@@devonnrochester7117 She did go out of bounds, are you blind?? She almost always fails that skill by going out of bounds
@@kanyebreast6072 going out of bounds is hardly a fail. Especially with an element as difficult as this one. You clearly are not very familiar with the sport as no one who was would say something so profoundly stupid.
@@kanyebreast6072 The COP has ruined this sport, in my opinion, by ignoring these hideous glaring errors and still scoring her first. She's destroyed the beauty of this sport by going beyond the sweet spot of difficult, artistic gymnastics with exceptional form and execution. It's not Simone's fault; she's just playing the COP but these huge mistakes and form breaks should be heavily penalized. She's just a glorified acrobat.
@@seer1623oo boo she's the goat. Period! What next should we punish Shaq when he shatters the backboard? c'mon!
Can you do The same HIGHEST-RATED ELEMENT in the Code of Points for MENS GYMNAST
3:27 Showing her red arrow here is sending me 😂
THE SHADE😂💀
Anyone else know how to count the twists? Sometimes I can’t tell the difference between her double double and triple double, even in slow motion.
Idk if this helps, but look for 2 twists in her first flip when she does the biles.
Watch it in slow mow, it helps a lot since she's moves extremely fast in real time.
simone never does the triple double after the first pass since it’s so difficult maybe you could look for that
Watch it in slow motion, count the half twists then divide by two. It's easier at least for me. Then watch it in normal speed trying to see what you've counted. With practice you'll eventually be able to count right away most of the times or at least have a clue :)
@@murasakino101 She already stated that she can't tell in slow motion. So telling her to watch is in slow mo is useless
Actually there is another skill too difficult that people don't do either not only bc of its difficulty but also because is too underscored, wich is dos santos II submitted by the world champion daiane dos santos. It was also a skill that they was only seen on MAG. When it comes from south america they score it low.
That skill should at least be an H or I imo. Even dos santos herself had to pike a bit to perform the skill. Idk about men's gymnastics, but no one else in women's gymnastics has done it other than is creator and it still hasn't been performed fully laid out yet. If anyone could do it, I think it could either be Simone or Jade but I haven't seen either of them do Arabian type skills so idk if they'd ever try it
@@murasakino101 didnt Simone have a Dos Santos II in her routines early in the quad? Youre right no one really does it full (Chellsoe Memmel posted a training which is the closest/beyond layout, some others hve too) but I don’t think that’s true. Also, the triple double definitely is the hardest still
Idk a lot about gymnastics but I’m hoping that the great advancement in the last decade is due to the fact that there’s more of an emphasis on wellness now than ever before rather than just coaches pushing gymnasts to their breaking point. They are great gymnasts making history for sure but I’d really also want to see them flourish as human beings ❤️
Vanessa is one of my favorite Bruins EVA! I got to see her live at the 2009 NCAAs (although I wasn't familiar with her at the time 🤣). And her Cheng vault was indeed special! 😍
Can I just say her outfit at the end was stunning-
Yes gymnastics has changed but to the younger generation they are not seeing it like we saw it. I’m sure the gymnast before Olga said the same thing about her adding handsprings and back tucks on beam. It’s what it is people, we are about to die off 😛
Simon and jade will be there I just know it yep seen them both
Simone and who again 😆
@@7u655 don't do Jade like that cmon
@@7u655 That messed up, show some respect for Jade.
I got so proud just watching this video shes absolutely amazing 😍😍
the only thing is that 'new skills' are always from the mens division. im hoping it will be the other way around someday
There isn't really much left to be added to MAG though
I mean, not on BB. 😉 Or various leaps, turns, spins, etc. on FX. Or quite a few of the skills on UB.
Jades triple double layout is just insane. If she had the pop Simone gets with her triple double tucked… dear lord
How about Dos Santos genZ?🤔 Is that so easy to forget Dayane? I really don't think so.
Are the skill points added as extra credit or does everything just get added up to get the final starting score?
I knew if Simone Biles Jade Carey who is got their skills code of points.
Wait, what is the K skill though?
Triple twisting double layout
If they made an amusement park ride like this....🥶🤯
Gymnastics IS a sport to test endurance, strength, flexibility, control over your body, control over the laws of physics, muscular tone and conditioning, and to inspire other people to keep their own bodies in FANTASTIC shape. I think people who are bemoaning the "lost artistry" that they claim has come at the sake of higher skills DO NOT REMEMBER what Gymnastics IS.
She still is a great gymnast just run out of steam because of pressure just my opinions to much difficulty and to much pressure made her get lost in the air
It's funny because that is one of her more "easier" vaults.
Where are the others??
Soon going to be like figure-skating, with 14-15 year-olds with quick turnover.
at 0:40 they show a thumble who is named after the brazilian gymnast lorrane oliveira as if it wasnt submitted or belongs to an united states gymnast. u guys cant stop stealing people, dont u
Yea, Lorrane successfully did it in 2021
Cant stop stealing? A skill doesn’t belong to someone. They also showed Laurie Hernendez doing the straddle into jaeger even though that was done by a Chinese gymnast in the 2000s and I guess you skipped over that one too. All they are talking about is hard skills, doesn’t matter who does it.
I can't help but notice the low view #'s for modern gymnastics versus old school gold.
Soon Z elements
lol then Z1 or ZA
Lmaoo
They believe “only men can do it…”
Well, Simone do it BETTER than all of them. 🤷🏻♂️
Nahhh
Yeah she does!
Even in men's gymnastics, it's a skill that isn't used often. Same with the triple double layout. If Jade did it, it would have been the hardest skill on floor in women's and men's gymnastics until the nagornyy came (the liukin was also tied for the hardest skill in men's gymnastics before too and it's a triple back)
What was the K-level skill submitted?
Has everything to do with the apparatus change. We’ve sacrificed grace and technique for “difficulty”,
It takes an insane amount of power and technique to fit 3 twists into 2 saltos. It’s not merely an “apparatus change” that allowed for this skill to even happen.
I think that’s harsh and unnecessary. A lot of gymnasts today are graceful, and a lot have great technique. You’re clearly just bitter, I’d rather be watching this era of gymnastics where they’re allowed to basically do as they please, rather than watching 14 yr old girls be starved and forced to do the same basic routine, or the exact same tumbles in their optionals. Sorry but there’s pros and cons to both and for you to phrase this the way you have just makes you sound bitter because you can’t have what you want now. Gymnastics is still an amazing sport and you discrediting athlete’s hard work is just laughable. Could you do either gymnastics back then or now? No I didn’t think so
@@jordansefton well said! Very well said!
Gymnastics is a sport and there's so much technique in these hard skills. I mean without technique non of these would be possible. Grace is still there you just need to watch with an open eye. At the end of the day this is not a dance competition
It's great to see innovation in tumbling, but if the Code awarded equally difficult dance and control aspects of the sport it would become more balanced and encourage gymnasts who excell at the more precise aspects.
Complicated takes away a lot of elegance from floor & beam: too much focus on acrobatics
If it's true Simone Biles is the greatest gymnast of all time how come she cannot do elements Elena Shushuneva or Aurelia Dobre or Daniela Silivas did long time ago? New system is made to kill beauty, inovations and hard skills and inpruve row strenght and freakness.
Can we show some love to MAG who've been doing this for years but never labeled GOAT.
An American guy did the triple double at championships. First name starts with E and it escapes me :/ I can only remember he’s gay
... carved her name in the code by nailing it ... LOL! Nice mixed metaphor!
The Miyachi and the Nagornyy are way harder!
Agreed but that’s men’s gymnastics.
@@yuiop6611 the title says, “in the code of points” and i’m aware that they probably meant wag, but it’s still didn’t specify.
too bad men’s gymnastics doesn’t get enough recognition
@@gymcentric5727. But the Miyachi and the Nagornyy are not rated as highly as the Biles II.
@@yuiop6611 The “Biles ||” is also the “Ri Jong Song” and the Miyachi as an I in MAG it would be much harder than the Biles in WAG.
It's crazy now there is not a focus on the gymnasts being skinny and not eating... instead they focus on healthy eating to fuel their body and women are performing better than ever before
Simone can bounce 5 feet out of bounds twice and still win the gold
I love Simone she definitely did all of that because she really loves what she does and takes it so seriously … she has a champion mindset 🔥❤️😍
Simone is an incredible acrobatist, but she lacks the grace and beauty that comes with being a gymnast. I don't mean to put down her skill, it's just I'm tired of the artistry of gymnastics becoming a thing of the past and tricks galore taking over the whole thing.
She does have grace and creativity within her routines, especially floor.
Controversial or not Simone Biles is not the goat of gymnastics, Kohei Uchimura “THE KING” is.
For female gymnastics she is the GOAT. She was able perform Yokochenco double pike which no women and hardly any men could do.
As of the 2024 Olympics she is now. Controversy Over!
but why should women gymnastics mirror the men gymnastics and make it all about acrobatics and power? women gymnastics has it's own qualities like artistry, elegance, flexibility... skills that men gymnastics lacks, and skills that makes women gymnastics so fun to watch!!!
I love Suni but no to the dismount. Looks like dismounts done eons ago and it's just not pretty.
The same thing had happened in figure skating and I personally feel it's taken away from the grace and elegance of the sport. I enjoy both much less that I have previously
It's gymnastics though not a dance competition
@@shey1238 Um, there are basic dance moves throughout most of gymnastics. The floor routine was predominantly dance, but now is only tricks with mostly no dance
@@antonetteallen2194 Um exactly what it should be...mostly gymnastics with a tiny bit of dance moves. What's the point if a gymnastics competition has predominantly dance LOL? That's why I said this is gymnastics and not a dance contest
@@shey1238 but it's artistic gymnastics, even if the acrobatic elements are much harder the gymnasts should focus on the artistic elements too
@@roa2558 Unfortunately, now it doesn't
the quest for harder skills ruined gymnastics by removing the artistic aspect
She makes me proud to be a Black American Woman
Again, this is proof what men can do women can potentially do
Simone was grossly ripped off with her double double beam dismount
And she does it better than any man she literally like you're standing upright when she finishes at Ella gymnastic freaky guy wants to nastics this up all the time it's kind of hard to not see her incredible difficulty when you watch the next you no competition when she's not around and the girls just aren't as good
In 2019 I was 4 and I am 7
Biles is a goddess.
I like her